The Josh Innes Show - Taylor and the Kelce's

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

The Kelce's had a giant night with their Taylor Swift episode. First off, Taylor, when just being a human is very charming. I found her to be adorable and snarky. Second, I still hate the Kelce family. USA Today's sports section is almost all Taylor Swift...very weird. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, everybody. Welcome in. I watched the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey Circle Jerk last night. Look, I'll say this. And you know that my fandom of Taylor Swift has declined over the years. And it's not because I've just matured as a human or anything like that. I just think her music sucks. Like the last couple of albums have been awful. If you go back and listen to everything, basically up until Red was fantastic. Fantastic. 1989 was fine. Reputation. Like, those were all fine, still pop albums.

Then somewhere along the way she just started making boring shit that barely got any radio play either. So I'm not the only one who thought that Taylor's recent shit wasn't very good. Hell, the single she was releasing in some instances were songs from albums from back when she was good. So, look, I have nothing against Taylor. I'm fine with Taylor. musically i used to really dig taylor well what we learned last night because i had to watch

this taylor travis thing it's kind of a weird thing for us last night because it just so happened that jilly was on the radio in detroit on the top 40 station channel 955 she was filling in for whoever does nights on that station and since she was filling in and this was the biggest thing ever. Jilly basically had to watch this Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey, Jason Kelsey thing in real time and comment on it in between Tate McCray songs on this radio station. So Jilly had to watch this whole thing. I watched like 20 minutes of it and then I took Ross for a walk. But one thing I took from it, actually, first of all, let me play some commercials and we'll continue. the best thing that came out of this is that Taylor said that she was making music the last couple albums for her diehard fans

and now she's going to get back to stuff that everybody can enjoy those are her words now that just is an indicator that she knows she's made crappy boring music the last handful of albums and now she's going to make pop music again music that's radio friendly perhaps she's not happy with not being on the radio as much anymore perhaps she's just dicks swinging to show she can dick swing. I guess that's what happens when you're the biggest star on the planet. You can make a couple albums that are like, eh, meh, to most people except your hardcore fans and still fill up football stadiums three nights in a row. And then you can come back and say, I was just making that for my people.

Now it's time for me to really make music that I know is going to get played on the radio. Like, it's a, it's fascinating, actually. But that makes me happy because it sounds like this is going to be music that I would enjoy. I'm not what the Swifty people would call brads and chads and dads, you know, the people that hate Taylor and blah. That's not the category I fall in. I do hate the Kelsey's with a passion. And last night did nothing to stop me from hating the Kelsey's. But what it did do last night is it gave me a renewed interest, maybe not an interest in Taylor Swift.

but it gave me a renewed reason to find her charming because she actually is extremely charming and adorable and snarky like that's the thing I kind of learned yesterday like I did not know that Taylor was this kind of snarky and dry like humor wise as she was in this interview I say interview wasn't really an interview in this podcast with her boyfriend and her boyfriend's brother I watched that and I'm kind of like she's kind of dry funny and she's kind of snarky and kind of bitchy and I kind of like it you know like you don't see that every day because the biggest star in the world doesn't do that kind of stuff every day and she kind of went back to a look that I like with the red lipstick

like I'm watching this thinking she's hot like she looks pretty good like I'm kind of digging it but this has happened to me before with Taylor a couple of years ago I say a couple years ago damn near a decade probably now or however long ago this was she put out a song with the dude from Panic at the disco and it was called me and she debuts it on one of these award shows I think is how it went down and and I'm watching the video for it and I'm like this song is outstanding and I think Taylor is back and she's making pop music again and this is great and she's got the looks and she's cute she's adorable and then she puts out all these shitty albums that I have no interest in listening to that are boring and dreadful so I don't

know, maybe I could be wrong, but I like her. I don't find the Kelsey's to be charming. I find neither one of them to be likable, particularly Jason. Like, at least one guy's banging this chick. At least one guy's allegedly in love with her. Why do you guys have to hold hands the entire interview? Like, who fucking does that? Like, it's like a presidential interview. It's like, it's the kind of interview that's done when, like, the presidential candidate or the political person, like, got caught fucking the maid, and he's sitting there with his wife and he has to hold hands the whole time to confirm that they are in fact still in love. It's like the disgraced

a televangelist who's caught in the roadside motel with a horse and it's like hold on I've sinned and I got to sit here with my wife and hold hands to confirm that we are in fact in love and I am still a good person

and she is forgiven me and hopefully you will forgive me as well that's how I felt watching the two of them hold hands the entire interview was very weird very strange very hairy high school but hey if you're in love you're in love

I'm not here to shit on love or spit on love or crap in the face of love Like, hey, if you're in love, you're in love. And maybe he is. Maybe they love each other. I'm not debating that that's very possible. But they're all in on the Kelsey family swift grift. It's a swift grift.

That's a good name for it. I just came up with that. The Kelsey family swift grift. Like, I'm watching this. And at one point, there's like 1.2 million people watching that concurrently. That is a gigantic audience for that. And I see Jason Kelsey tweeting, wow, 1.2 million people. people are watching. This is insane. Yeah, it's insane because you're talking to the biggest

star on the planet. It's not because of you. It's not because of your brother. It's not because of your mom. And it's not because of your wife who has a podcast or your family dog who probably has a podcast at this point, like Swifty Dog podcast. It's because the biggest star on the planet is on the podcast. I despise them. And I think a lot of you are with me. I even think like hardcore McDougals are with me, like Philly people. I think there are a lot of Philly people who've also gotten burned out on the Kelsey's. I think one of the reasons is because there's a lot of dudes, a lot of bros, a lot of right wing dudes probably that like the Eagles who just hate Taylor Swift for whatever reason. I'm not one of those people. Like,

I don't hate Taylor Swift. I really have nothing against Taylor Swift. She's clearly done something that's captured the imaginations of millions upon millions of people. So obviously she's done something right. So I'm not going to dump on that. But I think there's a lot of people that do fall into that category of, like, yell at the TV every time Taylor Swift shows up at a football game, which that's never really bothered me. It's not something that I get worked up over. It doesn't impact my enjoyment of the football game. Like, I mean, she's the biggest star in the world. CBS is going to pan to her a couple times to appease her fan base, many of whom for whatever weird, warped, fucked up reason, she's got a fan base that it tunes into games because her boyfriend is playing.

So, I don't fault the networks for that, for glomming on to it. I know that I should be like angry, yells at Cloud Guy about this kind of shit. I'm just really not. But I really, really, really hate the Kelsey's. They're just insufferable. They're not interesting. They've become a billionaires off the back of Taylor Swift, and that's where I get annoying. Speaking of things that annoy me, I go to USA Today.

I go to the sports section of USA Today this morning, just because I do every morning, just to see what could be there, if there's anything I could use. And if you know anything about this podcast, you know that I am a big opponent of the winners and losers from Blank. So I hate every time something big happens, there has to be a winners and losers story from USA Today because it's pretty much all they have to offer. I don't know why that's the case. I don't know why people click on this shit.

They must be very popular stories, must be popular things to click on. because every time something major happens, winners and losers from blank. Today, it's the winners and losers from Taylor Swift's appearance on New Heights. Okay, here are the winners, the Kelsey's, and their podcast, which already pays them $100 million, allegedly. There's your winners. Are there any real losers in this?

Find me the losers. Who are the losers in this? Now I'm actually curious. How can you take that interview and go, here's some winners and some losers? But I will. I will click on this and read just to see. This is from Jacob Kamenker at USA Today. Winners and Losers. Let's see.

The winners are the New Heights podcast. No fucking shit. You don't say that a podcast that had whatever listeners it had before now just got 1.2 million concurrent viewers. That video probably already has too many. Like, like, no way. no fucking way get out of town you mean to tell me

that a podcast that for two hours had a million people watching it you mean to tell me that whoa I had a curiosity let's see how many views that video has now at one point when I saw there was 1.2 million people watching it

as if right now it's got 8.2 million views let's see what their other videos have Donna Kelsey reveals her secret to building the best brother relationship between Jason and Travis. So the boys in Bruce Valanche, 107,000 views.

Jason and Travis debate the ultimate five liquids they would want to dispense out of their fingers. 29th. I hate these guys so fucking much. My God. Tide-in used surprises. 580,000. That was a month ago.

That was with Brad Pitt. Oh. Oh, they had the wife on. Kylie Kelsey. That one had 8.6. million views. What is wrong with the fucking world? You people are devil people. People who are

like, boy, I really want to watch a podcast episode with Kylie Kelsey and Jason Kelsey and Travis Kelsey, I have to quit. Now I'm getting annoyed. But most of this stuff, Kylie Kelsey shares hilarious

Jason and Travis stories one month ago. 113,000 views. Full episode, 695,000. views from three weeks ago with Adam Sandler. Look, and they get big-time people on there, and it drives up the numbers. But, like, there's obviously a certain clientele that does bigger. Adam Sandler, talking about Happy Gilmore, too, has gotten them 700,000 views, whereas Jason Tatum gets some 325,000 views.

So the Swifties are not interested in Jason Tatum, but they are interested in Brad Pitt and Adam Sandler. Noted. Let's see. Yeah, so most of the, I mean, there's stuff ain't getting 8.2 million views. It's just a, look, the idea that there's a winners and losers from this, like, it's pretty obvious. The podcast is a winner. No shit. Other winners.

Travis Kelsey and Jason and Kelsey. Yes. Aren't they the New Heights podcast? Why do they fall into a separate category? If I had to write this story every day, if I had to be the person that does the winners and losers of anything, I'd kill myself, I'd certainly drink Drano, though, if I have to do the winners and losers. of the Taylor Swift appearance on the podcast, the Kelsey's podcast. Taylor Swift, also a winner. Like, Taylor Swift didn't need this shit.

Taylor Swift isn't going to sell any more albums because of this. Taylor Swift isn't making any new fans because of this. She's Taylor Swift. People already know who she is. So I don't know how she benefited. losers the new heights podcast for its technical difficulties version NFL fans wanting to focus on the games my god Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift relationship conspiracy theorists my god oh my god bro you have to hate yourself there is no doubt that you hate yourself writing this shit like you like you probably

got into journalism if you're a journalist maybe you're just some slap dick that's like a guy that in the office, and they're like, hey, we need someone to write this story. And since we don't pay actual journalists anymore, you can do it, buddy. But I'm going to guess you got into journalism with the hopes of writing very important things that we're going to change the world. And instead of doing that, you are writing the winners and the losers of the Taylor Swift appearance on the New Heights podcast. There has to be a large part of you that really hate yourself for doing that. Again, unless they just took somebody that, like, works in the, in the, the, the room or something and is like, hey, we've stopped paying actual people that know what they're

doing years ago. Do you want to write, you know, a story about the Taylor Swift Jason Kelsey podcast? Anywho, to sum it up. I like, I like her. I think she's charming. I think she's adorable. At least in this she was. Maybe she's just very well calculated. That's another thing. I see people complimenting Jason Kelsey for being a good interview. Shut the fuck off. First of all, interviewing people isn't hard. You ask questions, you listen to their answers, you follow up based on the answers. People that tell me that interviewing is difficult. It is not a difficult thing.

Is it hard to have a conversation? If it's easy to have a conversation, then it's easy to interview someone. Interviews are easy. You just have to be comfortable. Now, obviously, the person has to be receptive to it, but interviewing people is easy. Oh, my God, Jason Kelsey won an interviewer. He's talking to his boyfriend's girlfriend. Do you think they haven't mapped out a lot of what they were going to do?

Do you think that they didn't talk to her PR people? And they were like, all right, here's one thing we're not going to do. We're not going to bring up blank, blank, and blank. And if we do, here's how we are going to bring up blank, blank, blank and blank. And here's her answer to blank, blank and blank. Here's what you can't ask about blank, blank, and blank. When you're someone that is that big, I mean, she's just a notch below the fucking president at this point. And if you're that big, you want to think she doesn't have a bullet point list of things you can't talk about?

You think that they don't know what they're supposed to ask. So please spare me. But I sell these radio dwebs that are like, oh, my God. interview artists all the time. And I'm amazed by what he's doing. It's not hard. You just blow yourself too much. That's another thing for a different day, though. Anyway, more to come.