The Josh Innes Show - Texans Win and Deshaun Is Done
Episode Date: September 9, 2024Jilly and I went to the Texans game in Indy...It was awesome. Indy is an awesome town and the stadium was incredible. I was never worried the Texans would lose the game. Why? CJ Deshaun Watson is beyo...nd broken and it's truly fascinating. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right, here we are.
Back from Indianapolis.
We were at the Lod Haas, as Pat calls it.
And hell of a time, by the way.
We saw the Texans get a big win.
That was obviously fun and great.
I'm trying to think of how many visiting stadiums I've been to
or just how many NFL stadiums in general.
I've been to a couple that I didn't actually see an NFL game in, like Dallas.
I've been there to see LSU games, but I've never seen an NFL game there,
so I don't know how loud it gets for those.
I can't imagine it gets overly loud.
I hate that stadium.
It's the Death Star, you know, but where all have we been?
We've been to Kansas City.
Kansas City was pretty loud when we went in, I guess that was 2013.
So the team, the Chiefs were okay.
The Texans were in the middle of just a nosedive after,
I think Kubiak was still the coach at the time,
but he had had a, I don't know if the mini stroke had happened yet.
That was the first game that Case Keenum started.
Yes, and they almost won.
They almost went to Kansas City and won.
That was loud. NR that Case Keenum started. Yes, and they almost won. They almost went to Kansas City and won. That was loud.
NRG can get loud.
The Superdome, really the loudest I've ever heard a stadium,
was when I went to the 2019 NFC Championship game with Matt Moscona.
We were sitting down there at field level.
Mattress Matt got us tickets.
And we were sitting down there, and early in the game,
the Saints forced a turnover.
It was either an interception or a fumble off of Jared Goff.
And that place was deafening.
Like,
like I can see why people wear earplugs and shit.
Uh,
cause it got loud,
uh,
piercing.
Uh,
let's see.
We've been to the Superbowl in Minneapolis,
but I don't think that's a fair depiction of how loud that place can get.
Cause the Superbowl is a weird thing,
but I bet it gets much louder when it's a Vikings important game.
We've been to Philly.
We've been to a Jets game, a Jets-Eagles game at the dumpy new MetLife Stadium.
Yes, we have.
I don't like that stadium.
Also at that stadium, their last call was at the end of halftime.
What the hell is that?
You're broken.
You're absolutely broken.
Do better Jets uh and giants for that
matter we've been to the talk about now met life wasn't a dump but just there was nothing special
about it a real dump was fedex field we've been there that was awful yeah that was not like
nothing about that no that one sucked and then we've been to the colts now i'm trying to think
oh we've been to soldier field uh do a couple games at Soldier Field.
We saw the Texans play there.
It's funny, I was listening to Texans radio.
We were on our way back from Indianapolis today
and I was listening to Mark Vandermeer
talk about how it's a primetime game this weekend
with the Bears trying to think
of the best primetime Texans games.
A lot of them end poorly,
so they're not really memorable.
There was one though,
and I don't know if anybody even cares about this game,
but it was in the 2012 season, and it was at the Bears.
It rained.
It, like, wasn't cold enough to snow, but it was sleet and nasty and terrible.
We were up in this Miller Lite deck for that game getting rained on.
That was fun.
Oh, we've been to the Patriots for Monday Night Foot.
That was a primetime game that was not memorable, I think.
Oh, it was memorable, just for the wrong reason.
I think that was, was that the Letterman Jackets?
That's the start, yeah.
So it was memorable.
It was memorable, you're right.
Letterman Jacket game, and I think Schaub threw a pick
on the first or second drive of the game,
and they got their asses kicked in that one.
So, and then this was our first trip to Indy.
First of all all not to blow
Indianapolis here but what a fucking town right like I live in a town that's slightly bigger we
live in St. Louis it's slightly bigger than Indianapolis but they're comparable in that
they're Midwest cities and you know you would think maybe time forgot them like you would think
time forgot St. Louis like downtown's a dump uh a lot of blight
all the buildings are boarded up the the real estate's crap in downtown like there's a lot of
bad things about st louis the football stadium is a convention center it's dumping you go to
downtown indianapolis man indianapolis great town stadiums right in downtown which you don't get
that a lot some of these nfl places like you know we did at downtown, which you don't get that a lot in some of these NFL places.
At NRG, there ain't nothing worth a shit around NRG.
It's a big parking lot, and there's a fiesta across the street.
And now our restaurant's not even there that we used to do shots at.
That was a Mexican restaurant.
Now it's like a sushi place or something, so it's not even there anymore.
Like, it sucks.
Now, tailgating's great at NRG. I didn't see any tailgating going on or a ton going on in Indianapolis but we also didn't get
there very early I mean we walked in we followed the crowd right up to the gate like we didn't
even see any of the parking lots we literally walked down the street and into the line for
security this is true so I'm sure there's more it's kind of like the dome in New Orleans like
there is tailgating that goes on and it's fun but you also can walk to a bunch of different places but here they've and look i don't
want to get into you know you know i'm not going to break down you know dead malls and department
stores which is a hobby of mine i like to by hobby i like to wikipedia dead malls and see
but they got a mall in downtown indianapolis they've converted all these old buildings into
part of the mall.
They got great restaurants.
They had a fucking Hooters that actually had people in it.
There was a good vibe at the Hooters.
You don't get that in very many places anymore.
We went to Hooters after we went to the Wild Beaver Saloon.
$4 bush lattes all fucking afternoon while we watched the afternoon game.
Great downtown.
The people were nice.
Now, I got some tweets from people that were like,
Indy, people suck.
Not in my experience.
They were hella nice, and that may have been,
other than the Superdome and the 2019 NFC Championship game,
possibly the loudest NFL stadium I've ever been in
was that stadium at particular points of the game, loud.
They start doing the dupe thing when they
score and it gets loud. And on third
downs, they play like an engine revving
on a car, like horsepower.
And as you brought up,
at least it's not a fucking horse name.
It's legitimately loud
and obnoxious and it was awesome.
And also that was with the roof open and
their big garage door style thing open. I can't imagine how loud that place gets when it's closed and all
the noise is kind of held in there like holy moly it is an awesome venue if you've never had an
opportunity to go to Indianapolis spend a week in there next year when the Texans go great downtown
great bar scene uh you know goodin-the-wall type places.
And we didn't even see the half of it, man.
We got there on Saturday.
We went to a stretch called Mass Ave, which seemed a little bit trendier in certain spots.
I think that's probably more where the college kids go.
Yeah, but it was awesome.
We sat at this one bar for three or four hours.
Our tab was $30.
I think it's because the lesbian bartender took a liking to me.
I don't know.
Well, it's because you played Pink Pony Club.
I think that's the key.
That was key in everything.
But it was great.
Then Saturday, we went down.
It's lively.
It's vibrant.
You don't get that in a lot of places
where the downtown is exciting
and people are having a good time.
I thought it was awesome.
We had an awesome trip.
Now we want to go back to
indianapolis just to do shit in indianapolis if work weren't an issue i might move my ass to
indianapolis it's a great town but weather was immaculate as well we're talking like 70s for
game time sunny um and the sun in the stadium isn't obnoxious either like sometimes when you'd
watch a game at nrg the way things were set up,
and I'm sure this is still the case.
I don't know.
We haven't been to a game in a while,
but where the sun became a,
like was a distraction and it was difficult for players to see because of
the sun blasting through in certain spots.
Same thing happens at,
at the Cowboys stadium,
man.
Let me tell you,
if you get an opportunity to go to Indianapolis,
particularly for a football game, there weren't a lot of us Texans people there.
I mean, there were some, but I mean, it wasn't like one of those things where you have whole
sections invading.
We were kind of, you know, few and far between.
That place was loud.
It was, the people were nice.
They weren't obnoxious. Like after the conversion on the dime that CJ threw to Nico Collins on the sideline after they reviewed it and called it a first down, this girl in front of us looks back at me because I just said, first down.
And she goes, with all due respect, fuck off.
She said kindly.
I believe she said kindly fuck off. i was like okay well that's what i
liked like they would talk their shit like you know but it was fun like it was fun shit talking
you know like everybody was just i enjoyed i thought that was my favorite nfl stadium i've
been to no i it's definitely the like what i like about it is is you look at some of these newer
stadiums and they're they're basically giant shopping malls, and they're fancy.
I'm not going to a football stadium because it's fancy.
I'm going because I want a good atmosphere
and I want to watch a football game.
I don't care about all the amenities you have there.
But this one felt current,
but it also felt like you were still going to a football game
and not going to an upscale mall
with a Nordstrom's and a Saks Fifth Avenue.
It felt like you were at a legitimate football game, but a comfortable stadium,
beautiful stadium right there in downtown.
You walk out of the stadium and you're in the heart of their thriving business district
they got down there.
Again, I'm not going to sit here and blow Indianapolis for an entire pod here,
but dude, you got to go to Indianapolis for an entire pod here but dude you gotta go to Indianapolis great
freaking town go you'll love it and preferably go see your team if your team isn't the Texans go
see your team play there we're thinking about going to Kansas City when the when the Texans
play they're thinking about because of you Miss Taylor Swift, tickets are ridiculously. They would already
be really high for that game. Patrick
Mahomes, CJ Stroud, that's going to be
a big matchup. But now you throw in these
Taylor people, and tickets for Chief
games are just impossible unless you're
loaded. And we're not.
So we'll see.
And that was one of the louder stadiums ever, too,
was Arrowhead. But man, I tell you, when it got
loud in that building,
Pat ain't lying when he says the loud ass.
It was loud, man.
But the game itself was awesome, too, obviously.
Texans won.
That was great.
Dude, so many badass things about that game.
Like, it's so amazing for the Texans to go into a ball game,
and we as people who've watched the Texans for as long as we have,
I mean, 15 years, 16 16 years however long it's been to watch them and know that you're in a comfortable spot
with the quarterback you have is incredible like it's an amazing feeling when late in the game I
never thought they were going to lose now I bet them to win I had a profit boost on DraftKings so
I used that um on the Texans to win but I never was concerned even when they cut it to two. I had a profit boost on DraftKings. So I use that on the Texans to win, but I never was
concerned. Even when they cut it to two, I was like, no, they're going to find a way to do it.
They're going to run the rock. They're going to get it done. And on third and 11, after that
false start and the crowds revved up and it's one of the loudest I've ever heard a stadium.
I'm like, I'm not worried. I'm not concerned at all because CJ Stroud is here and CJ Stroud's
going to make a play. And sure as hell, CJ Stroud threw a fucking dart to the sideline. Initially, everyone in the stadium
thought it was incomplete. It looked like there was no way it was a catch. People are going crazy
in the stadium. They're like, yeah, fourth down, let's go, and then I see the Texans on the
sideline. I'm watching their coaches, and they're catch, catch. I'm like, yeah, that's probably
wishful thinking. They show show the replay one knee equals two
feet ball didn't move first down and that pretty much ices the ball game even though they had two
timeouts left after that but to know that we get to go into every game watching that dude I've never
felt that way about this team certainly this franchise Deshaun to an extent but when Deshaun
was cooking but this guy when he's on the field you feel like you have a chance to win every damn game.
And that's something that me as a Saints fan felt when Drew Brees was on the field for however long he was there, 15 years.
You felt that Drew Brees was always going to give you a chance to win,
just like I'm sure the Patriots people felt Tom Brady would give you a chance to win,
just like you go down the list of guys and
there haven't been that many of them. There aren't a ton of dudes who, when they take the field,
you're like, holy shit, no matter who we're playing, no matter where it is, no matter what
time of day, no matter the weather, we feel like we got a shot to win this. That's why I was never
concerned during the game that they were going to lose that game. And they didn't. He made every
play. Wasn't his best game ever.
Pass blocking was dreadful.
The field was slippery, seemingly.
Like every play, people are falling.
On that Anthony Richardson touchdown that he threw for 65 yards in the air,
he slipped on that play.
I'm like, oh, he's going to get taken down.
I know he just launched it 70 yards in the air.
But it's amazing when you go in.
Big Hill, I'll give you an example.
When Peyton Manning was the quarterback of the Colts,
you felt like no matter what was going to happen,
they were going to find a way to beat you.
They were going to get you.
In particular, the Texans.
Peyton Manning essentially owned them, especially in Indianapolis.
We've got that now.
We as people who watch the Texans and root for the Texans,
we have a guy that when he takes the field,
you always have a
freaking chance to win. And that kicks ass. Is he as good as Mahomes? I don't know, but he's our
Mahomes. Is he as good as Lamar? I think he's fucking better than Lamar. And Lamar's won two
MVPs or whatever he's done. So it is amazing to do this. And that throw is an example of it.
They were never rattled in that game even after the big play cut
it to two. God, there's so much
to get into in this thing. And then you got the big
balls on D'Amico when he could have just
kicked the field goal, but he says, screw this
we're going. Our boy Diggs
you called this one Diggs, not just one
but two tuds. I did get that one, yeah.
I missed my touchdown
parlay by one guy. What's his name from
the Dolphins? Mostert. Yeah. Who like led the I missed my touchdown parlay by one guy. What's his name from the Dolphins?
Mostert. Yeah. Yeah. Who like led the league with touchdowns last year. Yep. I had four out of five.
God, I had a couple, I just randomly put in eight money lines in a parlay because I had a couple of $11 bonus bets, um, from draft Kings. And I'm like, well, if I'm going to have 11 bucks,
I'm just going to try to build some sort of wacky parlay and see what comes of it, you know?
And I, um, and the one i put in
had eight money lines like the saints were in there um they won pittsburgh was an underdog and
they won the only leg that missed in this damn parlay an eleven dollar bet that would have won
like seven hundred dollars the freaking bangles the bangles against presumably one of the worst
teams in the nfl the heaviest favorite of
the damn day and they were shamefully bad and what's even worse is going into that thing you
called that in our Airbnb yeah I was watching the uh what pregame show I think it's a Fox pregame
show and they were talking about the Jamar Chase stuff which we all knew about but like the more
I was sitting there watching I'm like oh they're a clusterfuck they're gonna lose at the time I was like maybe we cover the eight and a half and I was like no watching, I'm like, oh, they're a clusterfuck. They're going to lose.
At the time, I was like, maybe we cover the eight and a half.
And I was like, no, I think the Patriots are going to win.
And I didn't play it either.
I should have played that money line.
I was like plus three something.
But I didn't.
And like, I know.
But then you know what the best part?
We're in Missouri, so there's no sports betting.
We got to sit around at these bars and just live bet games, college on Saturday, pros on Sunday. There is nothing better than being able to live bet football. You feel like you're more in control of it. Some would call it pussy stuff. Hardcore gamblers might tell you live betting's for chumps, just like prop bets. A lot of them don't like prop bets. Let me tell you, when you're sitting at a bar and you're drinking a bush latte and you're watching, like we were watching the last drive,
a meaningless drive essentially because the Browns were getting the shit kicked out of them.
And how much fun is it to watch Deshaun Watson be terrible?
They're going to, one day when the 30 for 30 comes out about Deshaun Watson.
It's going to be good.
It's going to be good.
It's going to be the most epic thing from winning championships at Clemson. Dabo, I think when he was on our show in Houston,
called him Michael Jordan. He goes out, he rallies to win games in the playoffs. He's a baller
and gets the rub and tugs, and now he's dead. He literally is terrible, and they're going to
study this in classes in college i think the massages were
really his superpower because doesn't he have like isn't that part of the agreement now where
he can't get a massage there's something like in this contract i think so like he can't go
away from the facility yeah he if so unless look with the money he's making somebody
that performs massages a massage therapist for thes, may want to consider jerking him off a few times.
If that,
that's a big investment.
The guy,
what is it?
230,
240 million.
Somebody jerk this man off and let's see if that's what will help him play
better.
I feel there about two,
if things continue to go as badly as they looked yesterday for the Browns,
I feel we're about two weeks away from Deshaun mysteriously injuring his
shoulder again. And he's got the guaranteed money. So feel we're about two weeks away from Deshaun mysteriously injuring his shoulder again.
And he's got the guaranteed money.
So he's like, fuck this.
And then that means we get Jameis, baby.
I'm all for that.
But dude, live betting these games.
So back to the story about why it mattered.
So we're sitting at this place, the Wild Beaver Saloon in downtown
Indianapolis.
And late in the game, I believe it was a 23-point lead
or a 22-point lead, whatever it was for the Cowboys.
And the Browns had the ball with one last drive,
meaningless drive.
If I'm being honest, I read it incorrectly.
I thought that I had pulled the wool over the eyes of Vegas.
Too many bush lights.
It was.
I had too many lattes.
And I read it as like they were already covering.
So I'm like, wait a minute.
They're already covering this spread.
So the Cowboys aren't going to score again.
Well, I read it wrong.
I read the score wrong.
I believe the number was like 22 and a half or something.
And they were down by 23 or something like that.
So they had to score.
And I was like, bam, 300 bucks in there. And it was like plus 150 or something like that. So they had to score. And I was like, bam, 300 bucks in there. And it
was like plus 150 or something like that. The second I put it in, I realized I read the score
wrong and I'm like, shit, these assholes have to score. And then look, Deshaun Watson may not be a
hero to Browns fans today. He's not. I understand he's not a hero to the Browns fans. I respect
that he's not a hero to the Browns fans. I respect that he's not a hero to the Browns fans.
I get that they hate him.
He makes way too much money.
The team sucks.
I respect that.
And he's certainly not a hero to the massage therapists across the country.
He's a bad guy, seemingly.
He's a hero to Jilly Anis, and that's it.
That said, he's also a hero to me because he led the most meaningless yet most meaningful
touchdown drive in the history
of meaningless yet meaningful touchdown drives and it won me a nice chunk of change so thank you
Deshaun Watson for being a hero random question back to money lines did you have the Cowboys in
that play because you should have taken we've been saying that the whole week leading up to
this game why are the Cowboys underdogs in this game to the Browns? We know Deshaun.
We know he's not great anymore.
That was another one.
Again, in the Airbnb, I was like, boy, I'm just going to parlay the Cowboys money line
with that Patriots money line.
And I think there was a boost from money lines on DraftKings, too.
I didn't do it.
But if you would have taken the Cowboys instead of the Bengals, you would have had even better
value and you would have won. I would have had a lot more value. I'll tell you why I didn't taken the Cowboys instead of the Bengals, you would have had even better value and you would have won.
I would have had a lot more value.
I'll tell you why I didn't take the Cowboys.
And I don't want to blame other people for my decisions.
However, our friend AJ, who now works in San Antonio, I texted him.
I'm like, why the hell are the Cowboys, why are they underdogs to the Browns?
And he gives me a whole list of reasons why.
Offensive line, this.
And I'm like, okay, I buy it because he gambles professionally.
He hosts podcasts about gambling.
AJ knows something that I don't know, so I'm just going to stay away from the Cowboys.
By the time we got our asses from the game over to the bar to watch the Cowboys,
they're up by like 15, 20, and that's it.
But we did cash in on that game because we took a live touchdown prop.
I did call this one on the pod on Friday.
I think I hit like half of the prop bets I threw out, which isn't bad.
I need to do a little bit better.
But Shahid obviously hit for the Saints easily.
But there were a couple of touchdown ones I called that did hit,
one of which was Zeke Elliott, which was just bonkers value.
And during the game, it went up to like plus 270 for him to score a Tud.
And then the other touchdown we called was Jaden Daniels.
That was a touchdown.
And then Stefan Diggs.
So,
I mean,
you were killing it.
Dude,
if Mostert scores,
you would have had a monster day.
Yeah,
I would have exactly.
It would have,
could have,
should have,
but.
I missed actually a second.
There's a second touchdown,
but I missed two.
I just needed either one of the chargers running backs to score.
And neither one of them did, but missed that by one leg too.
Listen, I don't want you people to go broke, and I don't want you to become addicts and
degenerates. However, gambling on football makes the games a lot more fun. Like, what did we do
before there was gambling? What did we do before the gambling was in your phone and you could just
sit there and be like, like Gardner Minshew, for instance, that game meant nothing to me whatsoever. But late in the game, Gardner Minshew needed to throw for
like 30 more yards. They're losing. I'm like, he's got to throw bada bang. I'll tell you another
good one I hit during the Texans game sitting at the game was at one point Mixon had 119 rushing
yards. There's eight or so minutes to go in the fourth quarter. Mixon, and I think this was the drive with the big balls moved by D'Amico
where they went for it on fourth and scored.
And I'm looking at him.
I'm like, I could either take yards,
because at the time I think they were only up two.
So I could either take the passing yards for CJ,
which just wasn't there all day, or I ride the hot hand.
So the number, it was 119 yards at the time for Joe Mixon,
and Mixon needed to get to 135, so he needed 16 yards.
Bang, bang, he popped that in two runs, another hit.
So thank you, Texans.
And I hit the money line on that one too.
You're just talking about how great this is.
Like our friends in Texas, they can't do it at all.
I'm sorry. At least we can
drive the 30 minutes to
Illinois. That's like a two-hour
commitment to go to Louisiana.
Let me tell you something. If I ever move back to
Texas, I will spearhead a movement
to get gambling. All the bad shit
that people are allowed to do.
Buy cigarettes. Buy alcohol.
All this shit. Get lottery. All this shit you're allowed to do because they're, buy alcohol, buy all this shit, get lottery,
all this shit you're allowed to do
because they're making money off of it.
And you want to tell me that somebody
shouldn't be able to open up their FanDuel
or their DraftKings and bet on Gardner Minshew
to throw for over 239 and a half yards
in an in-game parlay?
Why?
It's not fair.
And if we ever move back to Texas,
I'm going to be one of those assholes
standing outside of the Walmart when you walk in. And I like hey can I talk to you for a second we want
to have uh you sign our uh our petition here to have gambling legalized that actually happened
to me here I usually ignore these people but I was walking into the grocery store one day and
the lady's like hey are you a registered uh voter what county do you live in we want you to sign our
petition I'm like no thanks ma'am she goes it's to legalize sports betting i'm like pardon what what was that again can you run that
by me one more time where do i sign can i sign look i got dead relatives can they sign too we'll
treat it like the election like oh shit my mom's husband don look he voted for uh he voted for
sports betting how about that uh but um anyway so back to some of
the stuff in the game though because this game was incredible again the vibes were great the
crowd was loud it was fun the people were nice the beer was cold by the way ten dollars for a beer
ain't bad all right now these are i guess 16 ouncers you know again 10 bucks 10 bucks when
we went to the astros game a couple weeks ago when we were in Houston,
we went up to that Ultra Lounge or whatever,
which you don't have to have a ticket to go up to that bar,
so I'm just thinking it's a normal bar.
Dude, I gave you my card to buy four beers.
You came back.
It was $75 for four beers or $80.
I forgot what it was.
That wasn't just because of that section.
I mean, that's the price in the it was. I'm like, well. And that wasn't just because of that section.
I mean, that's the price in the stadium everywhere.
Look, it's bullshit.
Another thing I will fight for if I move back to Texas is cheaper beers at stadiums.
Like Atlanta.
Like nobody gives a shit about the team in Atlanta,
but the beer is like $5, which kicks ass.
So, but anyway, game-wise, obviously Stroud was fine. was fine I mean look he made the plays he had
to make it wasn't his best game ever but he made plays Nico was great Stefan Diggs didn't have a
ton of yards but had two tuds and really the story of the game was the the offensive line able to
block it up for Mixon who was incredible pass protection wasn't as great that's an issue back
in secondary big time issue But I will say this.
Everybody's blowing Anthony Richardson
like we were watching McAfee and I heard some other people.
We were listening to the radio in Indianapolis
on our way out and they're like,
Anthony Richardson, Anthony Richardson.
I think he kind of sucks.
Well, the guy sitting next to me, I think,
summed up Anthony Richardson pretty well.
He's like, well, he's really good when he throws bombs,
but he can't do the short passes at all.
Well,
I mean,
an example of that all or nothing.
And again,
it's not fair to judge people on one or two throws,
but there was a point in the game where the,
I think one of the Texans defenders slipped because that turf was like ice and
he slips and,
and Richardson's got a man wide open in the end zone and he overthrew him by
10 yards.
Like basically when he throws deep passes and jump balls, his guys come down with now the 65 or 70 yard touchdown.
That was 65 yards in the air that he slipped and got back up and threw the touchdown. That was a
beauty like that happened. And it was legit. But when I watch him, I'm not seeing some guy like,
I do not believe he is anywhere near the caliber of CJ Stroud to me. And maybe I'm being biased.
Homer Jamoke ass guy here.
I'm Texans radio in this to me,
Stroud,
while he's not with the skins on the wall and the longevity of a guy like
my homes,
when you go down the list of quarterbacks in the NFL,
it's very realistic that he's in the top five already.
Like it's that it's possible. I mean top five already. Like, it's possible.
I mean, you go down, you got Mahomes, and like, if you said Josh,
you could have C.J. Stroud or, you know, I'm thinking about guys
that would be considered on his level.
Justin Herbert.
I'm taking Stroud any day of the week, right?
What about C.J. Stroud or Anthony Richardson?
No doubt taking C.J. Stroud.
Josh, are you taking Trevor Lawrence or C.J. Stroud?
C.J. Stroud. Josh, are you taking Trevor Lawrence or C.J. Stroud? C.J. Stroud.
So basically, it's an easier exercise to name those who are above him.
Pat Mahomes.
And I know it sounds ridiculous to say Lamar who's got MVPs,
but if you said, Josh, you can have Lamar or C.J. Stroud today.
It's not like Lamar's an old man.
Dude, I'm taking C.J. over Lamar if I got to choose one of those guys.
Maybe the only guy in the NFL I wouldn't take over CJ Stroud if I had my pick was Pat Mahomes.
That might be it.
So we've got a guy here now.
We've got a dude who can ball.
Jalen Hurts.
Give me CJ Stroud over Jalen Hurts.
Hurts been to the Super Bowl.
I get it.
But give me CJ Stroud.
I'm that invested in this guy.
And I don't feel ridiculous saying it. I felt ridiculous ever saying that Matt Shaw was, you know, top 10. You felt dumb saying it. And like, this doesn't feel that way. Like
Deshaun, like dude, again, there's going to be studies done on Deshaun. Like this is the most
fascinating collapse. It's like when it's like Chuck Knobloch couldn't throw to first base and
you're like, how did this happen? This man needs a sports psychologist deshaun watson is not only not good he's terrible
it's fascinating but i mean he also had the world like convinced that he was this great dude great
story and he turns out to be just a real pile of crap yes on and off the field dude and now and
like i think that that's all kind of part of it. You wonder if part of it is he got paid and just doesn't care anymore,
or if it's like this whole thing broke him to the point that there have to be studies done.
I need a whole class taught by people much smarter than I,
and I need this class taught at the elite universities, not LSU.
I need this taught at Yale and Princeton and Harvard. I need a
study done on how this is possible. I don't know that we've ever seen a guy go from that good.
And look, it's easy for us to make fun of him now, but you go back to 2019, you know, dude, 2019,
Deshaun's a beast. Like he's amazing. He's a great, like they had that playoff win that they
got bailed out in that game by some decisions, but like they had that playoff win that they got bailed out in that game by some
decisions, but like they had the game against Buffalo that they rallied in one of the playoffs.
They had a huge lead against the chiefs that they blew. But I mean, the dude was legitimately good.
Like we weren't dipshits in Houston, just blowing our own guy. Like he was great. And then he just
wasn't. And he's it's, it's, it's almost like the mon stars took his powers yeah like it's it's
like that level like charles barkley dribbling out on the playground and the girl goes you ain't
charles barkley you're just the wannabe that looks like i'm like that's what we're seeing
from deshaun watson it's bonkers but um all right before we get out of here, the balls on D'Amico Ryan's.
Now, this is a debatable topic, too, because you're down around the two or three yard line relatively late in the game.
If you kick a field goal, you go up eight or sorry, you go up five.
If you score, you go up two scores and the game's over, essentially, although they came back and scored quickly.
But you get the point.
The question is, is that the right move?
Now, it worked out, so yes.
That's a Dan Campbell move.
There's no way in hell Dan Campbell would have kicked that field goal there,
and D'Amico Ryans didn't either.
The question is, which unit did that say more about?
When he goes for it on that play,
is he saying that he doesn't trust that his defense is going to be able to
keep them out of range from scoring?
Again, they'd have to score.
Or is he saying, I trust the hell out of the fact that even if we don't score here,
they're buried at the two-yard line of their own and we can stop them.
That's up for debate.
All I know is to go for that play on fourth down, took some balls.
And I like that.
Look, D'Amico's the most lovable dude in the world.
Like, his passion, you could see it in the stadium.
Like, you look across the sideline, and we were kind of in a mid-level there.
Like, the fist pumps and the excitement and the hugs of the players.
Like, he's a likable guy.
He's clearly a smart guy.
He's got a smart staff.
It is so weird.
It feels uncomfortable, even, to say so many good things about this organization.
The owners are good.
Like everything about the Texans organization is good.
And that feels strange.
It feels dirty to say that.
Like, I feel like at some point it's all going to come crashing down, but it's legit for
the first time ever.
This organization is legit.
And when you say, Hey, they can compete, we haven't even talked about the skill guys.
I mean, Nico obviously was great and he made the play he had to make.
I mean, that's incredible, that play.
But I was thinking about this in the stadium.
There are a lot of teams that have great wide receiver, tight end, skill position units,
right?
The Chiefs are loaded with talent.
The Eagles are loaded with talent.
I mean, every team's got one
or two, seemingly one or two receivers and a running back that can ball. And maybe the Texans
aren't the best in that, but I would take their three receivers and their best running back and
their best tight end. And I would put that up there with virtually any team in the league right
now. And again, it's not just pie-in-the-sky optimism.
It's legit.
Dude, they're fucking good.
They're good.
They're fun.
You get the Bears coming up now, and the Bears stink.
The other thing, too, and we were just talking about how it's weird to just know that they always have a chance,
and people are like, wow, the Texans are good.
You see, Portnoy made his futures bet yesterday.
He took the Texans to win the Super Bowl.
He's got a history of hitting those things.
Not saying I'll try to jinx it here,
but just the fact that he's even considering the Texans
as a Super Bowl contender is wild.
It's fun, man.
I want to go watch them play games.
I've been looking at the schedule,
trying to find other places to go see them.
I'm going to try to get down to Houston and see them.
They're fun, man.
We got a quarterback in Houston.
We got playmakers all over the field.
I'm not going to write off the – I'm not going to say the defense.
Again, Anthony Richardson threw a couple of deep balls,
and they got burned on them.
But that's not sustainable.
When I watched them, them being the Colts,
try to matriculate the ball up the field, I wasn't impressed.
I think the Texans defensively were pretty solid.
They gave up a couple of big plays plays and that altered the way the stats looked
and it obviously altered the way the,
the,
the score looked.
I haven't seen a closeup replay of that touchdown.
Uh,
the,
the last Colts touchdown,
but,
um,
or the,
not the last,
the second to last with the,
the crossing pattern and the Texans defender just barely missed tipping it.
But like if that ball gets tipped, it's a different story.
So either way, dude, it was fun.
Indianapolis is a great time.
Great town.
The stadium's great.
The fans are great.
The Texans won.
Everything was great.
I feel like Sunday night at NRG is going to be absolutely insane.
Like it's going to be loud.
The season opener is a primetime game.
Like you can't Texans this one though.
And for the first time, I feel like they're not going to. Oh no. It used to be like, oh, a primetime game. Like you can't Texans this one though. And for the first time, I feel like they're not going to,
Oh no.
It used to be like,
Oh,
a primetime game.
Shit.
But I,
you know,
no dude,
I'm,
I'm with you.
And the bears appear to stink.
They shouldn't have won the game that they won yesterday.
Uh,
the Titans just sucked worse than them.
Caleb Williams looked terrible.
Um,
so,
and they got a couple of breaks,
right?
Special teams.
Now that now in fairness, Texans had a punt blocked.
So I guess when you go into this game, you say Texans had a punt blocked.
The bears blocked upon.
So what that tells me, and I was listening to Indy Kalou talk about this a little bit
today, but what that tells me is that you're going to go out and you're going to make extra
certain, uh, certain that you ain't allowing a punt to be blocked this week.
They're going to focus on that when you see one team has done it and you had it done against
you.
So I'm not concerned about them.
I'm not concerned about letdowns.
I don't think they're going to roll out here feeling good about themselves and blow a game
at home against a bad Bears team.
I don't believe D'Amico lets that happen.
Now, again, I could be wrong.
I don't believe that.
I think they're going to roll in and they're going to do their damn job. And I'm excited about it. I don't believe that I think they're gonna roll in and they're gonna do their damn job and I'm excited about it I can't wait it's awesome uh Sunday
night's gonna kick ass now I just can't drink as much on Sunday afternoon because I gotta be locked
in I was beddy-by by like you know eight last night I'm sure you're still gonna drink as much
as you normally do on a Sunday at the house I will but I'll have to this is something that happens
to me.
Do you notice when we are sitting here
outside on a Sunday
we can drink all day long?
Yep.
And we make it
through the Sunday night game?
Yep.
But when you drink
when you're out
it's different.
I don't know
how to explain it.
For me obviously
if I get an Uber
that's usually
where the blackouts start.
Not to sound like
a total degenerate
but even if I have
three beers
if I get an Uber
I don't know if it's just the movement and it's not like i drank a lot of
beer that we had like four beers at the game we didn't have any before the game because i was
playing the stub hub game to get tickets ended up with really good seats but then after the game i
mean we drank you know i mean these weren't big beer they were like 12 ounce cups of you know
bush probably had six or maybe five or six
of those at the bar. And then by the time we got to Hooters after the, the, the afternoon games,
I was out. Yeah. You couldn't even finish your beer at Hooters. I did. Look, I fought through
it because I'm, I'm tough. I'm a gamer is what they call that. But, but that was nowhere near
the amount of beer you normally drink on a Sunday is what I'm saying. For whatever reason, when
you're out versus when you're sitting at home,
it's just different.
It just hits different.
I know, and I was hit different, and I was excited.
Texans won.
It was a fun time at the Wild Beaver Saloon.
Good times.
Again, I can't say it enough.
Go to Indianapolis. If you get an opportunity, go to Indy.
It's a great time.
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