The Josh Innes Show - The Belichick Train Is Already Off The Rails

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

Was there anything more predictable than Bill Belichick being a disaster at UNC? I understand the desire to prove that you're more than a product of Tom Brady. But, perhaps college football wasn't the place for this quest. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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See the Tim's app for details at participating in restaurants in Canada for a limited time. Was Bill Belichick getting his ass kicked by TCU the most predictable thing ever? Like, they were only a three and a half point underdog, and at one point I think they were out scored 40 to nothing after I think they went up seven nothing and then proceeded to give up the next 40 points and it wasn't just like oh tc you marched the ball up and down the field on them I mean they did but uh even earlier even like what was interesting is that game was 10 to 7 late in the first half right like it's not like it was some dominant offensive performance from tCU I mean when it was all said done they ended up with like 500 yards of offense

but they had a returning quarterback they've got you know good I mean their biggest playmaker was a transfer wide receiver. I forgot where he had transferred from some small school. I forgot with small Idaho. But they went out and they had playmakers. They run an offense that makes the quarterback look really good. And Josh Hoover looked really good. But late in the first half of that game, it was still a game. And it was 17.7. And at one point, it was 10 to 7 late in the first half. And that's with North Carolina having one drive. And then their next seven or drives when at nowhere. But I don't know, that program being an disaster is so predictable and hysterical.

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Like whenever you were doing radio in Baton Rouge, it's like, I got to have Phil Steele because he's going to tell me. Basically, the selling point is it's like 130 or 200 media guides in one book, you know, type of deal. And they give you a couple full pages on everybody. Oh, here's the returning starters at LSU, and here's the key losses

for Bama. Here's the projection. And every week he has him on, and they talk about point spreads. And I'm listening to him talk about the Carolina game. And Matt at one point goes, look, I'm going to take North Carolina. I'm not going to bet against the greatest coach of all time. Perhaps you might have missed when the greatest coach of all time wasn't coaching Tom Brady anymore.

He sure his shit didn't look like the greatest coach of all time. And perhaps this is a big time overreaction because we've only seen one college Bill Belichick game. But we did see a handful of years of Bill Belichick post-Tom. Brady. And we saw a handful of years pre-Tom Brady. And two things can be true. Bill Belichick can be an amazing coach. And look, with just the results he has, it's hard to say that any other coach is a greater football coach than Bill Belichick. You want to, you know, say, oh, Vince Lombardi, fine, take Vince Lombardy. If you want to take Bill Belichick, take Bill Belichick. You want to take whomever, take whomever. It doesn't matter, right? But one

thing is irrefutable that without Tom Brady Bill Belichick has been a largely mediocre coach. Now, in his defense, what is Chuck Knoll if he doesn't have Terry Bradshaw? What is Tom, what's his fucking Dallas? How am I drawn a blank? Tom,

Tom Scarrett, Tom Jones. How am I drawn about Tom Landry? So take Tom Landry and take away Roger Staub back, and what do you get? You probably don't get the same number of Super Bowls that Tom Landry won. Like, obviously, a great player makes a great coach. There's not a great coach out there that's one big without great players. It just like, it doesn't work out that way.

You're not, you know, Rick Moranis coaching the little giants over his brother, right? But then again, when did the little giants pull through? when the Icebox got tired of being a fucking cheerleader and was like, guess what, motherfuckers? I'm here to play a linebacker now. So you got Junior Floyd and you got the Icebox, and then that's when you started winning. Look, even the Disney movie shows you that you need to have good players,

if you're a coach. The black gentleman that coached the basketball team in Air Bud. When did they start winning? When the fucking dog started hooping. Teen Wolf. Coach Bobby Finstock has some of the greatest wisdom ever. You know, never, you know, never get less than, you know, 10 hours sleep. You know, don't play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city.

And, you know, don't hook up with a chick that's got a tattoo of a dagger anywhere on her body. You follow that. Everything else is cream cheese. Great game there, Scotty. But they weren't winning games. But then all of a sudden, Coach Bobby Finstock looks pretty fucking brilliant when the Teen Wolf is Dunkin from the free throw line. point being is you need great players there is not a great coach that exists who did not coach great players Nick Saban had every year one or two was the recruiting class that Nick Saban had now do they help make players better sure just Tom Brady if Tom Brady were drafted by the Dolphins is Tom Brady time like ever all of these things have to come together clearly

but one thing is reality albeit in a COVID year which shouldn't count. But Tom Brady won a Super Bowl. And because that fucking asshole tied in from the Saints dropped the goddamn pass in the empty Superdome that paved the fucking way for the bucks to win that game and the playoffs, that divisional round game, that son of a bitch.

But all that said, Tom Brady won without Belichick. And you can believe that that's not what drives Belichick. I believe it is. It'd be hard not to. because if you're Belichick and you've won all the Super Bowls you've won as a head coach and as a coordinator, and people

are painting you as this guy that was really just a product of having the greatest quarterback ever. No one says this shit about Tom Brady because Tom Brady went to Tampa and won a lot of games and won the Super Bowl. Tom Brady never has to worry about that. The closest you'll get is what I just did a second ago, which was, oh,

Tom Brady, you know, like maybe he wouldn't have been as good without Belichick. We'll never fucking know because he goes to Tampa and he wins the Super Bowl. Belichick, we know, has never won a Super Bowl as a head coach without Tom Brady. So he goes to college because he's got a coach. He's desperate to coach. He can't have it in the way it ended in New England with people shit talking and saying that he's a joke.

It can't end that way. So he goes to college and he gets all the hype. Although there's nothing hype about Bill Belichick because he's the dullest human on the planet. But he's able to get like the season tickets are sold out for North Carolina. Every big name in the world is at this game. Michael Jordan and Roy Williams is there. like Randy Moss and just go down the list of incredible players and big famous people that are at this game.

You get all the hype in the world. And it's kind of like, all right, this is Belichick's chance to show. Even if he didn't win a national championship, that he's a good fucking coach because even though things ended terribly in New England, he's now in North Carolina and he's going to take this program. He's a winner and we're going to win some fucking games. And that's at least going to be a feather in his cap. It may not be a championship, but he can say,

hey, I went somewhere and did some fucking winning. Cool. first drive of the game 60 something 70 something yard drive Gio Lopez throws for 58 yards You're up 7 nothing Look the fuck out Then as it turns out

Geo Lopez stayed on 58 fucking yards for like three quarters And they just got stalled and stomped And before you know it It's still only a 10 to 7 game late in the first half And you're like okay If they can get it to halftime Maybe they'll figure some shit out

Then TCU scores really late and it's like a 10-point game and half. Then before you know it, it's a 17-point game, and then it's a 24-point game. And then the route's on, and you're throwing pick-sixes, and you're getting scooping scores, and you're throwing laterals backwards. They end up being fumbles.

And it's, I mean, it was a disaster. And before you know, there's, you know, 10 minutes to go in the third quarter stadium's fucking empty. Michael Jordan's probably like, I'm the fuck out. And reality sets in. And reality is that Bill Belichick at North Carolina is currently a disaster and will continue to be a disaster. It's never going to work.

And it's obvious that it's not going to work and it's been obvious that it's not going to work. They kept showing graphics of the coaches that have won Super Bowls and also been successful in college or like Super Bowl winning coaches who coached in college or whatever it was. And you get like your Pete Carrolls and Bill Walsh's and guys like that. Generally speaking, though, a lot of the things. of these guys went in the other order. You know, they were college coaches who got NFL jobs.

Very rarely is it the other way around. You know, like, I mean, obviously, like Dick Vermil was a college coach, got the Eagles job, then didn't coach for 15 years, and then won the Super Bowl with the Rams. Like, I get, there's different examples all the time. But for the most part, the guys that have the most success are guys where it's kind of like you go from college, you move up to the pros, and then become a great pro coach. It's a rare occurrence that a guy, I don't even think it's ever, I don't know the ever happened. Like Bill Walsh, when he was done coaching in San Francisco, I believe, went to

coach Stanford for a while after he'd won all those Super Bowls, then coach Stanford. But for the most part, it's guys who coach at the college level, like Pete Carroll. Now, granted, Pete Carroll's also a weird one because he was a pro coach before he went back to USC. So maybe his isn't totally fair. But there's no way this is going to be successful. This is dead on arrival. And like the one day that you would expect, hey, maybe this. could be big you know you're at home at least give them a good show and give people hope and that first drive it's like imagine you're a fighter and you you knock somebody down in the first round like you fight the champ you knock him down in the first round you're like all right and then just

get pummeled and that's what happened to him like you had all the hype in the world the everybody's watching michael jordan's in the house the place is full you've sold all your season tickets and then like it's dreadful there is no way this is going to be success And then what a horrible way to end what was a great weekend. Again, you had Texas and Ohio State, which was not really a great game, but at least it got close late and had some drama. And you had LSU and Clemson, which is a great game. Back and forth comes down to the last possession, good defensive battle. Miami and Notre Dame turned out to be a good game in the fourth quarter.

There were some other games that were good games that weren't the sexy marquee games, but there was good football all weekend. And then you get Labor Day football. It's Bill Belichick versus Sunny Dykes. The whole world has spent the whole offseason talking about Belichick to North Carolina. Nobody's talking about TCU. And TCU routes them. Just fucking routes them. It was a hoot.

I enjoyed that. This Belichick thing is going to be a disaster. All right. Anyway, more to come.