The Josh Innes Show - The Legend Of Tommy Castellanos

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

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Tommy Castellanos guy. I was Tommy Castellanos when Tommy Castellanos wasn't cool. When Tommy Castellanos was the quarterback at Boston College for Mr. Bill O'Brien, I've been a big Tommy Castellanos guy. I've enjoyed betting on him over the last year or so with rushing and passing. Now, I will say this. You want to talk about one of the ultimate dick punches of a bet. I took Castellanos to have 155 yards passing against Alabama. This son of a bitch got to 152 early in the second half and never threw for another yard and I missed it by three yards. That was a dick punch. But Tommy Castellanos taking on Alabama, getting the W, talking his shit before the game, walking the walk during the game,

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imagine a ton of people aren't sitting around watching Boston College football games. Like, oh, it's Boston College versus Virginia Tech on a Thursday. Who gives a shit? You know, that type of game. But I was because I'm a degenerate. So that's the beauty of being a degenerate gambler like this. There will be names that pop up and you'll go, oh, I know that guy. Like, there's no reason I should know where Gio Lopez played football before he ended up at North Carolina.

And we may have actually, we'll get into that game too, but we're probably done seeing Gio Lopez play football. if not for the injury, because holy shit, he was terrible. But he wasn't bad against South Alabama or playing for South Alabama. He wasn't bad. He got a big N. I.L. deal to go to North Carolina, and then he was dog shit. But, like, you'll see the name Gio Lopez before the game, and I go, oh, yeah, Gio Lopez from South Alabama. Of course you know that, because you bet on Gio Lopez and Fluff Bothwell when they were playing at South Alabama.

So you'll see these kind of names pop up. Like, Jilly is amazing at this. because she's a big prop better. So she'll see a name and she'll go, where did I see that guy play? Oh, yeah, Fluff Bothwell from South Alabama. But anyhow, so let's talk about Tommy Castellanos. So in the summer earlier, Castellanos made headlines after saying that the legendary Alabama head coach couldn't save the Crimson Tide from their week one matchup against the Seminoles.

He also added that he didn't see Alabama stopping him. And sure is shit, Alabama didn't stop. So on Sunday, after Alabama got their asses kicked by Florida State, on his website, Tommy Castellanos puts out his shirt that says, Nick can't save them with a 3117 written below alongside his logo. I had no clue that Tommy Castellanos had a logo. This is the era we're in right now, that Tommy Castellanos has a logo. Look, it's a different world, kids. this ain't your grandpappy's college football, this ain't your uncle's college football, and ain't your dad's college football. Shit, it ain't even your older brother's college football, that Tommy Castellanos,

a guy that 90-something percent of college football fans had no clue existed. He's like kind of a poor man's Diego Pavia, and that like Pavia is more of a brash outspoken guy, and since he plays in the SEC and they beat Bama last year, and he's on this reality show on Netflix, that Pavia has become kind of a star in a way, and they kind of have a similar type game. They are mobile guys that can throw a little bit too. The fact that Tommy Castellanos, who was the quarterback at Boston College, has a logo and a website, is wild. Let's see, what does his logo look like?

Let me take a look at this. It's a cool shirt, hoodies. I mean, I hope my guy's cashing in. You got to cash in on these moments. Tommy Castellanos is never going to be an NFL superstar. Tommy Castellanos is never going to be a household name in the NFL, may never take a regular season or preseason snap in the NFL. He may not, but he is cashing in right now, and this Nick can't save them shirts have to be selling well. 31 bucks a t-shirt.

Let me see what this logo looks like. View product. I mean, the logo's fine, but it's got the – I think the 3117 should be a little bit bigger on the shirt, but it's fine. and people are cashing in. I'm fairly certain that I'm sure Diego Pavia cashed in after beating Bama last year. This is the era we're in now. And this doesn't really bother me, especially because it's at the expense of Alabama. And Alabama gets every top recruiting class.

And Alabama is this big, you know, is the Mecca, essentially, just like it's fun when Texas loses. Because Texas is supposed to be amazing because the media tells me Texas is amazing. The Longhorn Network, Matthew McConaughey. like it's supposed to be this big fucking deal and when Texas doesn't win national championships it's fucking hysterical because Texas is supposed to be a big dog and it's the same with Alabama. But Alabama's been terrorizing people

for years and years and years and now Kellyn DeBore is just like it's dead. The Alabama program the last time Bama football was at this level

you have to go back to when Nick Saban was still at LSU and Alabama had gone through a revolving door of coaches I think Mike Price who never coached a game for them because he went to the titty bar it's rolling baby roll tide and he went to the titty bar and never

you had Mike DeBose and at one point in there you also had Mike Shula the son of Don who was pretty much the closest thing they had to a success and at one point I want to say it was 2005 or 2007 Bama started the season 10 and O, and then I think they lost their next two and were done. And that's about as close as Alabama football got until Nick Sabin got there in 2007. It was a slow start for them there, and then Sabin built it into the monster.

But there was a stretch, really from about 1993, or 92, I guess, when they won the national championship with Gene Stallings to about 2007, 2008, when Nick Saban got there and turned it around. Alabama football was very mid, a very mid-program. Now, the difference, of course, being that, like, it wasn't unheard of for a program to just kind of go mid for a while in that era. You know what I'm saying? Like, a program could have been great and then kind of disappear for a stretch. I mean, it didn't happen a ton. But, like, it feels like Alabama should never, ever, ever, ever be a mid program. Again, like after what Nick Saban built, after two decades of winning, what, six national championships and having this machine that Alabama had built,

There's no way Alabama should ever be to a point again where we're like, holy shit, Alabama's extremely mid. But Alabama's extremely mid. Like, we saw it with Penn State. Penn State's a very good program now, and it was a very good program from a lot of the Joe Paterno era. Then it had a very kind of mid period. Then Bill O'Brien kind of brings them out of the death era. And now they're a solid program again, right? And they're a threat.

They're a playoff threat every year. You know, they're a different program. Alabama should never, but like Penn State should. never be in a situation where Penn State is mid. LSU should never be in a position where LSU is a mid program, right? Clemson should never be there again after what Dabo and these guys have done for the last 15 years. Like, it should never be that. Like, if you want to have down years, fine. And when I say a down year, like, oh, we won eight games, we won nine games. You should never get to a point where you're losing the kind of games that Bama has

lost in the last couple years as a 14-point favorite against Florida State. Now, granted, it's a road game, but you should never lose that, a game where you're a 14-point favorite. You should never lose to Vanderbilt, ever. I don't care that Pauvey is there, and I don't care that Coach Noho Hank has them all geeked up thinking that they could win every game they play. It's still Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt will never be anything other than Vanderbilt, but you lose that game as well.

Those are two of the most heinous losses in Alabama football over the last 20 years. If you want to take Nick Sabin losing to ULM, sure, that's a bad loss, but that's coming out of the shit that was left for him, and they lost to ULM. There was never another loss like that again. You go back and you look at some of Nick Saban's losses, you're talking losses like 9 to 6 against the most dominant defense LSU probably ever had in 2011. You're talking losing to Jonathan fucking football. Like, they didn't have a ton of losses to teams where you go, holy shit, how did they lose that game? They've got two of them, and really three of them, because that Oklahoma team last year was bad. They already have three losses at Alabama under Kellan DeBore where you'd go, okay, those are bad losses.

Homeboy ain't long for the world in Tuscaloosa, because they ain't going to take it. And that kind of goes to that one point. I know we haven't even really talked about the game itself, like Tommy Castellanos and the boys busted a bunch of of big plays. The quarterback from Alabama didn't play particularly well. That's another new guy that people didn't really talk a lot about because, you know, Arch played on Saturday and because there were so many marquee matchups on Saturday that Ty Simpson isn't a guy that made a ton of noise for them and wasn't like a huge talking point. That's the other thing about Alabama is they're getting to a point where like it's becoming now commonplace for

them to lose these kind of games. They're going to get to a point where people just kind of, they're kind of out of side out of mind. And, like, Ty Simpson out of all the guys that made news, he wasn't really one of them, right? And they got the, I mean, the bigger story was Tommy Castellanos and not Ty Simpson. But either way, like, you start looking at where they are as a program. They are in a, it's crazy to think this. This kind of goes back to our discussion before about you never want to be the guy that replaces the guy. And I heard Josh Pate, who does a very good college football show.

he's probably like the college football guy's wonderful he's talking about the idea of replacing the guy and one thing he said is generally speaking you don't want to replace the guy because when you're replacing the guy a lot of times the guy left because the cupboard was kind of bare and he was ready to go see like joe pot penn state when joe pa left aside from the fact that he left disgrace because of the rape shit like it just wasn't a good program when he left the glory days had gone. So not only are you replacing a legend, you then have to go in and essentially rebuild the program, but you have to rebuild

the program with people having unrealistic expectations. No one's going to say, hey, go to Penn State and rebuild. They're going to think, go to Penn State and do what Joe Pa did when he was at his best, not what he did when he was at his worst. You're replacing Nick Saban, who went to the playoff in his last year. I believe it was he in the

national championship game in his last year, at least in the semifinal. So you're going in and you're inheriting this machine that's still, rolling. It didn't collapse and you come in. You know, Brian Kelly replaced Coach O, who in no way is a legend, quote unquote, but he did win a national championship. When Brian Kelly got to LSU, LSU had back to back shit years after the national championship year, you know, whereas Les Miles inherited an LSU program that was two years removed from a national championship

and one year removed from playing in like the Capital One Bowl or whatever fucking bowl it was. But it was still a good program that was primed and less miles, you know, grab the rope, steady the ship, whatever you want to say, and had a very good first five or six years. They did not fall off a cliff with Les Miles. Two years after he got the job, they won the National Championship, you know, three years. So, you know, but DeBoer gets this gig, fresh off of Nick Sabin being a beast still. The program had not lost its way under Nick Sabin. So of course, the expectations were gigantic for DeBore, and now he's underachieved in a major way. Whoever gets the job after DeBore actually has the

easy job. His is one of the examples of it actually working out where you don't want to be the guy who follows the guy. Like Bill O'Brien followed Joe Paterno. And while he left the cupboard bear, I think a lot of people accepted that it wasn't going to be an easy job at Penn State. And they lauded him for winning eight games, seven or eight games, and he was not punished for doing that. Still, the expectations were high at Penn State because fans always have high expectations at major programs. But he didn't get punished for winning seven or eight games. he got an NFL job for winning seven, eight games, whereas DeBoer is going to inevitably get fired. I've heard people say, oh, yeah, like the Alabama people already want him gone.

You've got other meeting people saying that's stupid. Yeah, it's probably stupid to say that right now. But do you think if they lose four games? Like, you probably won't be fired after this year unless it really goes off the rails, which there's too much talent for it to go off the rails. Bama's going to beat somebody that, oh, well, like, the people are going to talk shit about Bama. Then they're going to beat someone they shouldn't. beat. But, and I say they shouldn't beat, they should beat everybody. And they'll probably be

favorites over most teams they play. But they're a mess. And they commit stupid penalties. They're not, the thing about it is when you watch them play, they're not well coached. They're not disciplined. The kind of shit that Sabin would lose his mind of them. The kind of shit that in Baton Rouge, we criticize less Miles teams for after Sabin left. Like Sabin teams would not do dumb shit. And if they did, it was rare, and Saban would lose his mind. Early on with Les Miles, they would do dumb shit, commit, you know, after play penalties, the kind of shit that poorly coached undisciplined teams would do. And we would shit on them there for that.

Alabama's doing that kind of shit. And it's in year two. In year one, maybe. In year two, you're doing that kind of dumb shit. You've put yourself in a really bad spot. And DeBore, and like, he ain't long for the world there. Good for Tommy Castellanos. good for cashing in on the whole deal.

I don't know how many of these t-shirts he sold, probably a good number of people of Florida State buying the Nick Can't Save them shirts. We're in a new era, baby. You go out there, you win one big game, you sell merch and you're making thousands of dollars. Who knows? I'm imagining the guy's making it a decent bit. I'd like to actually know.

I need some dad on this. But anyway, we've got so many other things to get into. Sabama loses that game. I haven't even talked about LSU yet. God, what a great weekend of college football. More to come. Thank you.