The Josh Innes Show - The Psychology of McDougall

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

It was an awesome weekend of football...mostly college...some NFL Nick Sirianni, coach of the Eagles, is now fighting with fans. This led me to think about Philly fan..aka McDougall. I'm fascinated by the psychology of Philly fan. The Texans have a big time showdown with Green Bay this week. I love this game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I leave like junk around the house. But for whatever reason, my main ambition in life, that's not, I mean, I have other ambitions, not my main ambition. Ambition's not the right word. But to me, a true sign that the day has started is you make the bed. And actually, and I've never actually heard this story firsthand, but my dad has talked to Dale Brown, legendary LSU basketball coach who's still kicking. He's got to be damn near 90 at this point. Might be in his 90s. I don't know. But Daddy Dale, who was the head coach at Louisiana State University from 1972 to 1997 and went to, was it two Final Fours? I think they went to the Final Four in 87 and 80, I think were the years they went to the Final Four, I think. And just legendary LSU basketball coach, great motivator, great recruiter,

fought the NCAA to get players money. And, I mean, look, he was trying to win basketball games too, and I'm sure some of the stuff he was doing was self-serving. But he was someone that threw double birds to the NCAA, and when the NCAA got the chance to return serve, they basically gave LSU the death penalty for a while. And, look, and he was out of basketball. But Daddy Dale, I've read multiple books of his

i love the guy dale brown i've had a chance to meet him a couple times but i've never gotten this story firsthand but my dad for whatever reason was at dale brown's house a couple of years ago i don't know why but he was and sitting down there with the coach, and the coach is always in motivator mode. He's such a great inspirational speaker, motivator. You'll run through a wall for this guy. When you hear how good of a motivator he is, and again, I'm not trying to go off on a diatribe about Dale Brown, guy who hadn't coached basketball in 30 years damn near. But people used to talk about Dale Brown as a guy who was a bad X's and O's guy, but was an amazing motivator. And when you hear the guy talk, you can see how he turned a team that had to use Ricky Blanton at center in 1987, how he took that team to the

final four, because this guy can make you believe anything, Right? He's a great motivator. And to me, that's part of being a coach, even at times more so than the X's and O's. Because at the end of the day, the guy's got to execute the plays. But do you motivate them to execute the plays? So he's a great motivator. Dad's sitting there with him. And Dale looks at him and goes, Scott, do you make your bed every morning? And I'm guaranteeing you my dad doesn't.

Because I've never walked into his house where his bed is made, especially when his wife is out of town. I've never seen my dad put forth any effort to make a bed, so I'm going to guess he hasn't, but I'm also going to guess he lied and said, oh yeah, of course. And the whole point of this was that sets the tone for your day. It takes discipline to do that. To get up in the morning and make your bed is a big deal. And I'm a believer do that. To get up in the morning and make your bed is a big deal. And I'm a believer in that. Not that I'm going to tell you that you have to do it. Different strokes for different folks. But for me, I like to get up in the morning and make the bed. Plus, I enjoy laying in the bed once it's made more so than an unmade bed, right? That's why I

get very hostile about new hotel rules where some of them don't come in and make the bed and bring you new towels due to you know energy costs or whatever I'm like screw that I'm paying money to stay at this La Quinta you get your ass in here and you make this bed so I can lay on it for whatever reason it just feels better to lay around and watch tv on top of a blanket on a bed that's made than a bed that isn't made. I feel like I should be doing something if the bed isn't made. And that's something that's make the damn bed. I'm a big believer in making the bed. So look, I don't have a lot of things I live by. I don't have a lot of credos. I don't have a lot of codes, right? I don't have all that. One thing I believe

in is when you get up in the morning, make the bed. There are days that we'll get up and I'll forget to make it because we're in a hurry to get over, sadly, to get over to Illinois to make beds. And I say, shit, I got to get up and go. I'll be sitting there making beds and I'll go, shit, I didn't make the bed. Now, maybe that's partially OCD, but that's really the only OCD thing I have, right? I'm not sitting there having to wash my hands 400 times like I'm right? Like I'm not sitting there having to wash my hands 400 times like I'm Howard Hughes. I'm not pissing into milk bottles. My fingernails aren't 14 inches long. The only thing that I'm OCD about is making the bed. I am passionate about making the bed. For whatever reason, that's what I do. That's what I like. So there. Why I went off on

this diatribe, I don't't know I sit here in my underwear not trying to turn you guys on just in my underwear topless boxers sitting in the bed talking to you this morning so hello friends I'm glad you're there uh NFL weekend wasn't particularly great in terms of the games that happened the matchups were really unappealing they're turned out to have a couple of games that were at least somewhat interesting. The college football weekend was spectacular. Like very rarely do these matchups with these teams live up to it, but LSU Ole Miss, epic. The Ohio State Oregon game was super epic. Just an amazing game coming out of the wire. It should have ended a lot better than it did,

but the quarterback at Ohio State was just god-awful on that last drive that made it a lot less interesting. There was also an offensive pass interference that took them out of field goal range, but there was just a lot of bad quarterback play and a lot of bad decisions made in that final stretch for Ohio State. And Ohio State continues to be a team where Ryan Day can't win big games. That's the knock on him. You can't beat Michigan, really. You can't beat big-time teams. Now, Oregon sits atop the Big Ten. Penn State's right there. The Penn State game ended up being great in overtime. A ton of passing yards,

which was really one of my biggest bets I hit of the weekend was taking those two quarterbacks to combine for 500 yards. They threw for like 600. Like it was a massive throwing day with Miller Moss and Drew Aller. That was fun. Great game there. Now USC falls to three and three. It makes LSU's win over them or loss to them look a little less impressive. If a loss can be impressive, it makes that loss seem worse, I guess, because they're 3-3. But here's Penn State.

Penn State, they got it all laid out in front of them. Their schedule's not overly difficult, right? They've got Ohio State, who we've seen can be beaten, and I think that game's at Happy Valley. So they're in a position now where they don't have to face, well, first of all, Michigan's not even good this year, but they're not coming up on the schedule. So you've got a look ahead here for a team like Penn State after beating USC.

I mean, they've got games they should win. This should be a year that James Franklin could get into this playoff. So that's big, right? And they don't play Oregon either, unless they get to the conference championship game, which is certainly a possibility at this point. So that's huge. Great college football weekend. The LSU game was spectacular.

We're going to Arkansas for the game on Saturday. We're going to leave on Friday. We're staying in some cabin. Not even a cabin. It's just out in the woods in Arkansas. An Airbnb where the people who own the house in Arkansas, an Airbnb, like where the people who own the house are going to be upstairs and we're going to be downstairs. But it's not, that's like this. It's not like we're staying in a bedroom in a house. Like it's like a duplex type

of thing. I guess the way it's been described to me as sort of duplexy out in the woods. Like you don't even communicate with the other people, but I'm weirded out by the concept of being in the woods, in Arkansas, in somebody else's house where they're also going to be in the house. So this kind of feels like we may get raped. I'm not sure if we will or not. I don't know if there will be sodomy happening here. I don't know what kind of weird shit happens in Arkansas

out in the woods of Fayetteville and the outskirts of Fayetteville, Arkansas. But we're going to take a chance because we're going to see the fighting Tigers of Louisiana State University, see if they can actually go out and continue with this great energy, these great vibes after defeating Ole Miss in what was a hell of a football game. I mean, I wish I would have been there. I haven't been to a great LSU football game in a long time, at least not in Tiger Stadium. And that game was bonkers is what I would say that game was. And it was fun. So anyway, so other stuff going on. Let's look through some of these NFL games from yesterday. Again, the Colts Titans game was close, but my God,

they're bad. Speaking of the Titans, I'm just going down the schedule jaguars and bears wasn't close caleb williams continues to be a beast trevor lawrence isn't uh they're gonna fire doug peterson uh i don't know if it's gonna come this week it probably won't come this week because they're still in london they're playing back-to-back london games so um he's not going to get fired this week because that just wouldn't make sense but if they lose another one it wouldn't shock me they're a disaster at this point. And Caleb Williams with his man purse and his painted fingernails and his quirky personality just out here slinging. That's getting better every freaking week. Bears might have hit a home run there. Cardinals and Packers, nothing impressive, although the Packers and the Texans are going to play this week and that's going to

have a lot of passing yards. That has potential to be a shootout. I really, really, really, really hate that Nico's not there for this game because the Packers do still have those lot of passing yards that has potential to be a shootout I really really really really hate that Nico's not there for this game because the Packers do still have those kind of weapons that can stretch the field I don't know that the Texans have that like Tank could do it but you're still missing the fastest guy in the league the guy that's the best deep threat in the league in a game like this that I truly do believe is going to be a shootout and the Packers have their full complement of guys back as well they've got Watson who's back uh who can burn like they've got dudes I got Dobbs who can make plays like my dude Jayden Reed was kind of out of sight out of mind yesterday

because those two guys were back and Jayden Reed's a guy that can make 50 plus yard plays with these two so um this might be one the Texans lose this This could be shaping up for that because even yesterday, we talked about it, Keyshawn Butte made a big play. The Texans still give up big plays in the passing game defensively. And the Packers have far more weapons and a better quarterback to make those big plays. This feels like a game that on the road, the Texans could very well give up two or three splash 35, 40-yard plays.

I'm concerned about that, and we'll talk about that more during the week. Colts and Titans, the game was close, but neither one of those teams are relevant. Although, the Colts, for as mediocre as they've been, they sit at 3-3, and they've got games they can win. I think they've got some winnable games coming up. Then they've got the Texans. If they can pull off an upset of the Texans, the division race still is in flux. But otherwise, the Texans should run away with the division. It's funny.

I'm looking at ESPN, and I'm seeing multiple hot takes from Stephen A. Smith about the Titans. Stephen A. Smith lets you know why the Titans are struggling. I don't know, Stephen A., because they suck. Like, I don't know that you need to have some long diatribe about a shitty football team that nobody cares about. Let me tell you why the Titans suck.

I know why they suck. Will Levis is their fucking quarterback, and they're not very good. They do have elite-level playmakers. I don't even know if DeAndre's elite anymore, or if he just doesn't look elite because he plays with the Titans and Will Levis, I don't know. But DeAndre's still a high-level receiver who can make plays.

Calvin Ridley should. He had zero catches, thank you very much, yesterday. So fuck that. But Tony Pollard can play. He's a great dual-threat guy out of the backfield. But that's why they suck. They suck because they have a shitty quarterback and they got a shitty coach they're not very good i don't know that that i don't even

know that warrants television time for steven a smith but he did it apparently just oh let me tell you about the titans like okay no one's listening but okay uh texans blew out the uh patriots it was a little bit close uh a little too close for comfort early and through like you know obviously it was it was 14 to 7 at half and then the texans come out get the turnover and once they were up by two scores they were never really in jeopardy like again they won by 20 it's hard to bitch about going to new england winning by 20 but i'm seeing some people talk about how boy this kind of exercises some demons it was was their first win in Foxborough. Bullshit.

It doesn't exercise any demons. You're not playing Tom Brady and Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots. You're playing Gerard Mayo and Drake May, New England Patriots, a one-in-five football team who's winless at home. So winning at New England didn't mean dick to me. Although, I was tickled by the people posting graphics of the Texans players like J.J. Watt and all the guys wearing the Letterman jackets back in 2012, I guess is when that was. And it says, we won this one for those guys. And I found that to be humorous. But at the end of the day, it's not Tom Brady. It's not Bill Belichick. It's a really, really bad New England team with a rookie quarterback making his first start.

And he made some throws, but for the most part, I mean, they eviscerated that dude. Like, he was running for his life for most of the day. They did what they had to do. The Texans have caught multiple breaks on the schedule this year. One, they caught Caleb Williams before Caleb Williams really started kind of catching fire. And he's been really outstanding the last couple of weeks. I mean, the bears are out there throwing for 300 yards, seemingly every game they're killing it. They caught him in week two in his first road game and were able to handle business

there. So, um, that was big. Um, so they were able to get Caleb Williams there, and now they were able to get Drake May in his first start. I don't know that May is going to suck or he's going to be great. I don't think this is a good situation. I think the Patriots is a disastrous situation right now. So it could be a bad spot for him. But the Texans caught a break with both of those. I think they would have beaten the Patriots anyway,

and they probably would have beaten the Bears anyway. That Bears game was a little too close for comfort. But if you look at what the Bears had versus what the Patriots have they have the number one pick at quarterback and they're loaded with dynamic playmakers you know DeAndre Swift is a great playmaker on the outside Keenan Allen is a playmaker uh you know they've got DJ Moore they've got playmakers at receiver and they drafted Roma Dunzey so the Bears were far more of a threat based on what they had versus what the Patriots had with Drake May. But they caught a break in both of those games catching a rookie quarterback.

And they caught them early in their rookiedom, if you will. So they benefit greatly there. But they're 5-1, and if they handle their business, they should easily win this division because the Titans are dead. The Colts are hanging around, and you've got another matchup with them coming up in two weeks. I'm going to be there. Me and Jilly and PK and Denise are going to go to the game.

So if you see us, let's drink beer. If you have tailgate, if you want us to come out and tailgate with you, I'm not opposed to taking your free food and beverage. I love you. We're ready to hang. Buccaneers and Saints, that game was a disaster. Although I've never heard of a situation before where a team has three interceptions, a return for a touchdown,

and loses by 24 points. But the Saints were able to do it getting outscored 27-0 in the second half. The Bucs offense is really good, and they're a fun team to bet if you're just looking for games that you think there's going to be a ton of offense, passing yards, etc. The B the bucks are fun uh the saints now have to bounce

back take on the broncos uh thursday and that's sean payton coming back to the dome and a lot of people are hyping this up as oh boy if dennis allen loses to sean payton that's probably the end of the road a it should be the end of the road anyway because Dennis Allen blows and secondly the Sean Payton thing's interesting it's not like Nick Saban who left LSU for another job which was the Miami Dolphins then came back to Alabama it's not a situation like that where a guy left you for greener pastures or you fired him right like I think a lot of people are hyping this up. Like, if Coach O came back in college football and coached Florida, and Coach O came back into Death Valley coaching a different team, right? Then it would be looked at as, oh, Coach O's out to get his revenge. Kind of like

how Coach O wanted to get his revenge on Ole Miss for firing him. And when they played Ole Miss, it's kind of like, hey, Coach O wants to, hey, give him the birds. That's not what this is for the Saints because the Saints didn't fire Sean Payton. I believe the Saints would have kept Sean Payton for as long as they possibly could because he's the most successful, arguably the only successful coach they've had. Yes, Jim Morris Sr. was fine and went to some playoffs. I get that in the early 90s. There was brief success, one playoff victory. First playoff win in the franchise's history for Jim Haslett and that was about it but if you're looking at legit success winning a Super Bowl consistently

being a contender fun teams to watch always felt you had a chance to win Sean Payton was that guy for the Saints the Saints would have kept him forever to go squints on you Squidman Palidorus forever okay they would have kept him that long, but he's like, oh, I'm just going to get out of this now. And then a year comes back and coaches Denver. Here's my issue with Sean Payton, and this is why I don't think this is a fair thing to say. He's coming to get his revenge on the Saints,

and if the Saints lose to Payton, they didn't choose Dennis Allen over Sean Payton. Sean Payton chose leaving because he didn't have a quarterback. Like, that's why I'm very, like, if I were at that game, I'd respect the fact out of, or respect the shit out of the fact that Sean Payton is the greatest coach the Saints have ever had, and that era was the greatest era they've ever had, and they won the Super Bowl, and I thank you for that because it was fun.

And you gave us an attitude. You gave us a vibe, right? Like, we took on the personality of our head coach in New Orleans. Sean Payton was a shit talker. He was fun. We won a lot of football games. Should have gone to a second Super Bowl. We got fucked by the refs. Now, there were some bad ones too. We shouldn't have lost on the Minneapolis Miracle. Shouldn't have lost the Beast Quake game. Shouldn't have lost to fucking Alex Smith in the playoffs when he and Drew Brees got into a shootout in 11. Those things shouldn't have happened, but they did. But Sean Payton gave us the greatest era of Saints football ever.

But I'm also not going to sit there and blow you because you're coaching another team and you left. I view what Sean Payton did to the Saints as abandonment because once he realized Drew was gone and he didn't have a quarterback anymore, he said, deuces gonna go I'm gonna retire I'm gonna do TV does TV for a year comes back to Denver and so I would love to see the Saints fuck him up but I also know that if the Saints fucked him up Dennis Allen survives another week and I do think even though I don't think that the the reasoning is what people think it is like I think a lot of people look at this and go, boy, if Sean Payton comes back in there and beats his old team, that's the death nail for Dennis Allen. I don't believe

that it's because of Sean Payton. I just believe it's because the Saints played one of the worst football games they've played in their, however, since 1967, since the football team came into existence, they played one of their worst fucking football games ever, particularly the worst second half maybe you're ever going to see from a football team. So that would be the reason if they fall to two and five seasons of loss, just the Sean Payton factor play into it a little, I guess, but they didn't choose Dennis Allen over Sean Payton. Sean Payton chose to get the fuck out of New Orleans. So I really, I would like to see people boo the motherfucker, honestly. There's a big part of my heart as a Saints fan that says, fuck that, dude.

You rolled out when times got tough. Eat a dick. Browns and Eagles. Eagles held on and Dingus, Nick Sirianni. Here's an interesting thing about the Eagles. I tweeted this earlier. If it ever catches any legs with the Philly McDougals it'll be you know you know non-stop but here's the thing about McDougal Philly sports fan very passionate people arguably the most passionate sports fans irrational sports

fans on the planet more than New York more than Boston because Boston and New York still kind of view themselves as big dogs and for whatever reason Philly like wants to be a big dog but they also carry themselves in like a woe is me kind of little guy way I blame fucking Rocky for that but that's how Philly's always gonna be I blame the media for that it's always oh we're little Philly you're like one of the top 10 cities in the fucking country yet you carry yourself like you're Paducah Kentucky and no one gives you a chance at anything but whatever that's what Philadelphia does. That's their MO. That's their vibe.

That's their image. And I blame the guys like Angelo and the guys in the media that portray you as the little guy. And there's big bad New York, and there's big bad Boston, and you're the little guy, and you've got a complex, and wah, wah. Who cares? But here's one thing about McDougal. Because of all that, and I think this would be a great course at a college. I think if like,

just like I think it'd be great if we did studies in colleges about how Taylor Swift flat assed, no tits, bland music, especially the last decade has somehow become the most important musician on the planet. I want to study on this. I need full on college courses to explain to me how this

very basic-looking Pennsylvania mid is now the biggest star on the planet and can fill up a football stadium three nights in a row. How did this happen? I want a college course to explain that to me. I also need a course about the psyche of Philadelphia sports fan. This would be interesting, more interesting than like a real psychology course. It would be interesting because I want to know and I want people to try to understand the mindset of Philadelphia people. For example, Nick Sirianni did something that like I was told to do by my bosses at WIP. He pandered. Because when you get a job in Philadelphia, you have to go in and act like everything about Philadelphia is the greatest.

And that you understand everything. And that you love Scrapple. And you're a whiz wit. And you are blue collar. You wear the Philly tuxedo, which is the jersey over the hoodie. But you're wearing the hat that has like, you got to like have like all four Philly teams on your persons at all times. Like you have to do that.

You have to understand the history of the sport. You have to get all that. So what did Nick Sirianni do when he got the job? Well, he's wearing like the t-shirts. I forgot what they were, but he was wearing like classic Philly sports t-shirts. And he's kind of playing like, I'm the blue collar guy and no one likes us. We don't care even though we do. And like all that shit. And he played that game. And the thing about Philly people is they can be easily duped. And this is where the psychology part

comes in. I don't know if it's like a daddy issue thing, because I think I probably have daddy issues. That's why I get fired from places, especially places where I feel like I don't have a boss that I need to impress. Like I had a great boss in Philly. I had a great boss in Houston. I had a great boss in Nashville. But there have been other places where I've just kind of been like, it's not the same. I need to have someone to impress. So I'm fairly certain I have daddy issues. Why? I don't know.

My dad was a pretty good dad. He is a good dad. But he was also in his own world. So I think I've spent a lot of my life trying to impress my dad. That's why I took the fucking job in St. Louis. My dad wanted to work at this radio station when he was in high school. And I'm like, shit, maybe my dad will think I'm badass if I take this job here. So I think I know for a fact that I have some level of daddy issues. And I don't know who the daddy is for Philadelphia,

whether it's like the national media who doesn't give them their shine or New York or whomever, but they have daddy issues. Whoever that daddy is, Philly has issues. So what you have to do is appease them and feed that hole they feel in their soul, right? And you need to fill it. There's a hole in my heart that can only be filled by pandering. And that's why Nick Sirianni does the whole thing, Philly tough guy talking shit, the gif where he's looking in the camera, bobbing his head during the game, the oversized giant teardrop during the Super Bowl. Although crying, I guess, is not pandering in that situation. But the guy pandered and he played McDougal is easy, because McDougal has a hole deep in his soul that someone hurt McDougal so long ago that McDougal needs that. You can't just

come in and say, I don't give a fuck about your history, but I'm going to win a bunch of fucking football games and it's going to be great. Chip Kelly tried that. Chip Kelly really didn't give a tons of fucks about the history of Philly. Now, he won early, so it didn't matter. But he was never one of those, like, I'm going to get in here. Now, he did do the we're from Philly, we fight thing. And people ate that up. That was right before I got the gig there. We're from Philly, we fight.

Yeah, fucking right. Way to go, Delco. It was all great. Cool. But for the most part, that wasn't his shtick he didn't have that personality Peterson sort of kind of did but Peterson won a Super Bowl three years later he got fired Sirianni came in and he's like well I guess I'm just gonna go full-on in like Bryce Harper and Jason Kelsey pander mode like he got in there and he's wearing the t-shirts and we're Philly and like,

I love all the old players. And he did all that. And it worked for a while because you went to the Superbowl. But now as you've gradually trailed off to the point now where you're struggling to beat the, maybe the worst team in the NFL, like you could argue the Browns are worse than Carolina. Like Carolina with Andy Dalton is probably a better football team. And if they were, I would take them to beat Cleveland with Andy Dalton. So you take the worst team in the league with the disaster of a quarterback. And if not for a couple of boneheaded decisions by them and a couple of mistakes deep in the red zone at the goal line, you're probably tied with them late in the game at home coming off a bye coming off bad loss so what does this dude do he starts talking shit and yammering with the fans

and he's played it up as well my players want me to be more like the old me so i'm talking shit to the fans brother you're not in a position to talk shit to the fans anymore because you ain't good at your job and now it's not like they're just fucking with you. Now they hate you. Your time is ticking. Like Nick Sirianni is not long for the world, but not long for the football in Philadelphia world. He'll live a long time, I'm sure. Seems like a healthy guy.

But going back to the idea of the psychology of the Philly sports fan, and this is why there should be a course taught at major universities, and I'm not talking about community colleges. I'm talking about like Harvard. They should have Harvard courses where they dissect Philadelphia sports fans because the Philadelphia sports fan can be easily duped by pandering. But then the second they turn on you, you can't get them back. And then they act like they've always known you were pandering and you were a fraud. So you can put up the fraud act on them and they'll fall for it.

But then once you've lost them, they all sit around and go, I always knew that guy was a fucking fraud. Dalco. Dalco fraud. He's a fraud. He probably doesn't even eat his cheesesteaks whiz with like all that they are a fascinating people like i don't dislike like there was a stretch where i disliked them because i was in the sirianni position like when the snowball starts

rolling downhill with these people it's tough like i'll give them that like because they have no um like there's no filter on these people, really. And there's zero give a fucks. Like, their give a fuck is busted. Once they've decided that they're done with you, it's relentless. They are a relentless group of wackos. And they will just keep pounding you to the point that you're driven to fucking madness. That happened to me.

Real talk. I was driven to some level of madness towards the end there because there's no reasoning with them. That's the word I'm looking for. There is no reasoning. Once they've decided that you suck, once they've decided you're great, they love you, and there's no one that can tell them otherwise.

You're the greatest, and no fan base could tell them otherwise. Once they've decided you suck, you're done. It is over. The snowball starts rolling down the hill, and it is relentless, and it is without reason or ration. These people are not rational. I would try to rationalize with them. When they'd say, oh, your ratings fucking suck, and Missy's beating your ass, and whatever, I'd say yes, but crossing broad, this is my mistake you should never try to don't negotiate with terrorists don't try to rationalize with terrorists I'm in this situation I'm like well yes but they're counting his digital numbers and that's like I'm not bonused on digital numbers so we're a lot closer but crossing broads running these like streaming numbers and they were able to

convince people that those mattered at that time and And I would try to reason with these people. And they're like, oh, you're just fucking full of fucking shit. You're a fucking fraud. And fighting with them won't help you. Fighting with them in that situation is not going to help you. But you live by McDougal and you die by McDougal. You built your whole image on being this guy that was part of the family. And you got your, I'm wearing a Randall Cunningham jersey. And Mike Quick and football and wah-wah.

You did all that shit. But now everything that you tried to use to make them love you is the same things they can use to hate you. It's like a horror movie. Like I believe that we need to get one of these like, who's the Key and Peele, Peele, that dude, the dude from Key and Peele who makes all the movies about it, like the horror movies about white people. What he needs to do is make a horror movie about McDougal because McDougal is truly the most frightening person in the world

because McDougal has no reason. There's no reasoning. there's no rationalizing McDougal I mean McDougal's like like even Michael Myers there's like you could almost appeal to Michael Myers like like there's that scene in um was it an h2o uh from 1998 where like like there's almost that moment where he's looking at Laurie Strode and he kind of tilts his head and you're almost like, oh, he might have reason. Like he almost feels something. McDougal doesn't,

especially when McDougal has decided that you suck ass. McDougal says, nope, no sir, you can't argue with this. And fighting with them does not help. That's like throwing fucking water on one of those little gremlins or whatever.

You throw water on that little fella and he turns into a gremlin. Don't do that. Look, I'm telling you this as someone who's gone down that road and failed going down that road. Don't fight with these people. They have no reason. They don't give a shit. This is their lives. Don't fight with them. Then he goes up to the press conference, and this is even better. I don't know if he goes to the press conference with his kids all the time, but he's sitting there with his kid at the press conference, so no one's going to really ask you anything tough at a press conference

when your kid's on your lap. I find it preposterous that these people bring their kids to a press conference. You could argue, well, Josh, it's just sports. It's the toy department of life. Sure. imposterous that these people bring their kids to a press conference. And you could argue, well, Josh, it's just sports. It's the toy department of life. Sure. But if it's important enough to have games cost millions of dollars and players getting paid millions of dollars, then it's important enough to have your kids stay back with the mom for 10 minutes while you answer some

questions about why you're fighting with the dipshits in the stands. All that said, the Eagles barely beat the Browns, and I don't think the Eagles are a good football team. Let's see. Commanders and Ravenss I think the commanders showed well for themselves when you've got a rookie quarterback and you're facing your toughest challenge to date and that's a really good Ravens team at home and you kept up with the fight for most of that game it was a 17 10 game and a half you were always kind of at arm's length to a degree like i never felt the commander skins were going to win that game but i love uh i love jayden daniels so that's a really fun football team to watch and i think they deserve like i don't think everything

is judged the same like a team that's loaded with like let's look at it this way go back to the saints i'm not going to judge spencer rattler the same way I'm going to judge Derek Carr because Derek Carr's playing the league for 11 years so I'm not going to judge him the same way as I'm going to judge Spencer Rattler and I'm not going to judge the commanders the same way I'm going to judge a team like say like the Eagles who are supposed to be a Super Bowl contender they have a quarterback that's a veteran of the league and they've got big playmakers all around I I judge them different. So if the Eagles would have gone to the Ravens and lost 30-23, I would have said the Eagles suck. The Commanders go and lose by seven.

They're a 4-2 team, surprising the whole world. Give them credit. Chargers and Broncos, that was a waste of time. Steelers and Raiders, I didn't watch one second of that. It was a waste of time. Aiden Hutchinson's out for the Lions. That blows for that dude. I feel terrible for him. I feel bad for the Lions because they're good. They're fun to watch. Cowboys are just a disaster.

0-3 at home. And I think yesterday was the most points they've ever given up or the biggest loss they've ever had at home or the second biggest loss. And by the way, it's right up there with that Saints game in week two. And boy, how bad does that look? It's one thing to lose to the Lions, who should be a Super Bowl contender. It's another thing to lose to the Saints, who've now lost four in a row after they kicked your ass and just gave up 51 points on their home field. Oof. Cowboys are a disaster. Falcons and Panthers, that was also a waste of time. Speaking of a waste of time, my God, Bengals and Giants. I put a bet on the two quarterbacks to combine for 500 just so I had something to root

for last night. My God, it wasn't even close. Just a boring, slow, uninteresting. Now they'll sell it to you as well as a defensive football game. No, it was a terrible offensive football game. Well, the Bengals who are a great offense, I'll give the Giants credit. The Giants defensively did a good job

because the Bengals are a legitimately good offense. The Giants are a legitimately bad offense, and they were just doing legitimately bad offense things, like scoring seven points. The Bengals being held to 17, give the Giants credit. That was a good defensive effort. It was just a really lousy football game. And then tonight, you've got the Bills and Jets.

Dude, again, I don't know how many of you can bet. I'm sure some of you listen in Philly. Some of you listen in places where you can't bet. I think I'm going to take a shot on the Bills, Jets passing yards in this game. It's plus 430 for the two quarterbacks to combine for 500. Maybe it's just a shootout tonight. I mean, you could put a hundred bucks on that. You could win 440 bucks, pay out 500, I think 530. So that's worth a shot. Uh, and Jilly also thinks that Aaron Rogers, if he's going to have a great game, it's going to come right after they fired the coach. So she might be right. This might be a play on that one. So, uh, all right. Anyway, uh, you guys are awesome. I love you. We'll talk later.