The Josh Innes Show - The Tush Push Lives

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

The NFL Owners made the right decision and voted "Yes" to keeping the Tush Push. Good. Why punish teams because they have mastered something and you haven't? Can we please, please replace the on...side kick with a passing play? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:30 How freaking crazy is it that the headline story on ESPN's website right now, and I'm looking at 1138 AM Central, it's like a breaking news flash across the screen, like the tush push lives like holy shit like that's a big freaking story like I don't know if there's just a slow news day and we still haven't found out who the monkey noise person was so we can't have that headline story but how crazy is it that like just a quarterback sneak play is that big of a story and that much of a controversy but let's read some of this story here. Well,
Starting point is 00:01:05 first, before we do that, like how freaking crazy, man. That is bizarre and wild and a good day for Philadelphia, big day for Philly. Like it looked for all the world like they were going to strip the Eagles and the Eagles fans of their one unique thing that they did better than anyone. But no, the NFL owners prevailed. They said, fuck you Green Bay, take that shit and shove it up your ass Green Bay. The tush push lives on baby. Imagine being Green Bay though, what a bunch of puds. Like what kind of dipshits are like, nope we're fighting to have this band. It's a player safety issue. Blah blah blah blah blah. It's a dangerous game. Let them do what they want. The players don't seem overly concerned with it so let them be. That's what I love when
Starting point is 00:01:48 a dangerous thing like football talks about player safety. Like guys we gotta watch out for player safety. We gotta make sure our players are safe. Dudes are running at each other 100 miles an hour and trying to take each other's heads off. You don't care about player safety and the players don't care about player safety. Do they want to end up vegetables? No. Do they want to have CTE? No. Do they want to break their legs? No. But if you're playing football, obviously the number one concern in your life is not the health of your body because you're playing tackle football. But that said, today was a glorious day if you're a
Starting point is 00:02:21 Philadelphia sports fan because your football team who innovated well they took the quarterback sneak and innovated it turned it into something different and something special and had a wacky name the tush push the brotherly shove whatever you want to call it and they went out and they won Super Bowls with that bad boy and nobody else could stop it and nobody could do it as well as you did and you came out victorious today was your glorious day. Let's read the details on how all this went down after these words. From early morning workouts that need a boost to late night drives that need vibes, a good
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Starting point is 00:03:37 outwardly in favor of banning the shift in baseball. And it's kind of the same concept, right? It's the same concept in that, well, why don't you learn how to beat the shift instead of complaining about the shift? Well, the shift negatively impacted the enjoyment of watching a football game for the fans. Most of the time, the tush push will happen a handful of times a game, if that, and it'll be a quarterback sneak that you get a first down and the thing continues. Very rarely do you get situations like where
Starting point is 00:04:08 the Redskins were jumping over the line 5,000 times to try to stop the play and just let it keep going in that manner. Fine, but for the most part it's not impacting your enjoyment of the football game. It is not impacting how much you like watching the game or if it's fun. Whereas the shift in baseball was the type of thing where like the shift impacted my enjoyment of the game because it was taking runners off base and part of what makes baseball great is when there are people on base because that means those guys have an opportunity to score and that means there's an opportunity to see action you see. Action is fun. It is lively. It keeps you engaged in the game. What doesn't keep you engaged in the game is when a shortstop who's playing out in right field fields a
Starting point is 00:04:55 ground ball and throws out Ryan Howard. That is not a fun way to watch baseball. Therefore, I was always in favor of altering slash banning the shift. Whereas it relates to the tush push, like stop it. Like your defense has an opportunity to stop it. Let's see if anybody can come up with some way to do it. Maybe it is truly an unstoppable play. Not like 99.9% of the time it's unstoppable. Figure out a way to stop it. Here's the story from ESPN. Even the most powerful figures in the NFL were unable to stop the tush push. The proposed ban of the tush push play that the Philadelphia Eagles
Starting point is 00:05:30 have popularized did not receive enough votes at the spring meeting Wednesday in Eagan, Minnesota. Before the vote, retired Philadelphia Eagles center Jason Kelsey and team owner Jeffrey Lurie spoke to the owners to lobby for the merits of keeping the play. Well look, if there's a guy who would have a word to say about it, it would be Jason Kelce. First of all, let's be fucking real. Jason Kelce is not going to come out and publicly say anything negative about anything Philadelphia. There is no way in hell Jason Kelce was gonna come out and go, you know, I think it's bad for your brain. I just don't think it's good for
Starting point is 00:06:04 you. Like, Jason Kelce is never going to be the guy that would step up and do that. His brain seems to work fine anyway, but it's not like he'd ever come out. Like, Philadelphia Eagles fans love the tush push. It's their thing, right? Do you really think that Jason Kelsey was going to offer you a true insight into this? You know, like, let's get real. Among the teams to support the Eagles with their vote were the Baltimore Ravens, the New England Patriots, the New York Jets, and the Detroit Lions. I like that. Good for the Lions, too. They do wacky shit. They should be in favor of that. The proposal needed 24 votes to pass. The final vote was 22 to 10.
Starting point is 00:06:43 The Eagles celebrated the result, writing, push on, overlaid on an image of their team lined up for the tush push against the Packers, and opposed to X on Wednesday. The Eagles and Packers will face each other in a Monday night football game in week 10 this season. That should be a fun time. Is that going to be in Philadelphia? If that's in Philadelphia, that's going to be a nightmare for the Packers. They should line up and run the tush push every single play. When I used to play Madden on the hardest level with the worst team or if I would do it in the college football video game on the highest level with the worst team, I would just run quarterback sneaks all the time because it was truly the only way I could move the ball. If the Eagles have any balls ever, this is what I'm begging. Oh God for the love of Christ do this. For the love of Christ I'm begging you Nick Sirianni, you know you're an asshole, you know you want to do it. The Green Bay
Starting point is 00:07:32 Packers wanted to stop your magic play. First drive of the fucking game do nothing but run the tush push. It would be great. At least run the first play. At least the first play against Green Bay run the tush push. But if I would prefer that you run every play down the field using the tush push, I know you won't but God it would be beautiful. Please do that. Stick it up their ass. It'd be beautiful to watch. Kelsey declined to comment on the vote Wednesday saying, I'm not here to talk to the media. Oh now you're not! Listen guys, this is serious shit. I'm not here to talk to the media guys. Like truly the headline, like the headline on ESPN should have been, Kelsey declined to comment. That should be a breaking news headline on the ESPN
Starting point is 00:08:24 website. Kelsey declined to comment on the vote be a breaking news headline on the ESPN website. Kelsey declined to comment on the vote Wednesday saying, I'm not here to talk to the media. I'll do that the other 364 fucking days of the year. Oh good, we got an update on the other things. In another vote, NFL owners approved a proposal to allow teams to declare an on-site kick at any time during a game when they are trailing. Players on the kicking team will also be lined up with their front foot on the 35 yard line with the rule change one yard closer than previously. Why are we still fucking with the onside kick? Do the proposed idea where you can
Starting point is 00:08:57 throw a ball 20 yards and pick up a first down. And if you can complete a 20 yard pass instead of an onside kick, you get the ball. Just make sure it's in a position where if the opposition gets it, they're in great field position. These are the fun kind of things that can make football better. They seem ridiculous at the outset. You might judge them and go, oh, this sounds stupid. Why would you do that? That's going to ruin the game. That's how I felt about moving the
Starting point is 00:09:20 extra point back. At one point, I was like, who gives a fuck? It's just the extra point. Let them have it. But now the extra point has become a dramatic play that can win and lose games and in many instances does win or lose games for teams because people are missing them. We need more things that are exciting. The onside kick, which is very rarely recovered, is not all that exciting and you have to declare you're doing it anyway. It's stupid.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Let's see. Wednesday's vote came after the league table discussions on the original proposal submitted by the Green Bay Packers last month at the NFL's annual league meetings in Palm Beach. The original proposal was written explicitly around the tush push play before the proposal was tabled. The vote was split 16 to 16 among 32 teams. Packers resubmitted the proposal, blah, blah, blah. Basically don't assist runners. Okay, fine, whatever. Did we get an update though on the, I'd like an update on the kickoffs. Did we change anything in the kickoff, please? Let's see here. The tush push appeared in only
Starting point is 00:10:19 0.28% of total plays last year according to ESPN research, but the Eagles and Buffalo Bills ran the play more often than other teams. The two teams combined to run 163 pushes in the past three seasons, more than the rest of the NFL combined. Not only did the Eagles and Bills run the play the most often, they were also the most successful. They scored a touchdown or achieved a first down on 87% of their tush push attempts according to ESPN research while the rest of the league was successful 71% of the
Starting point is 00:10:49 time. So the Bills and more importantly the Eagles because they're kind of the originators of it. They are the ones that that have mastered it and good for the league stepping up and saying screw you. Let's see if there was a vote on the NFL kickoff thing. I would like a vote on that please. I'd like to find out if we're changing anything in the kickoffs. Let's see. The NFL recently approved. Was there anything new? Is this today? No, that was April 1st, so that's not it. Let's see. NFL teams vote no on Tush push. Oh, I forgot there was the flag football vote too, so the football players, NFL players
Starting point is 00:11:27 can now play flag football in the Olympics, which I think is cool. Good for them. You could win a gold medal playing flag football. The Olympics, what a world, where you can play flag football, stuff that middle-aged dudes do every day. This could be an opportunity for middle-aged dudes to be heroes. Go play flag football, man. I saw somebody in Boston say that the
Starting point is 00:11:47 flag football team should include Tom Brady and he could just add to his goat status and I'm like, yeah, I think that's pretty freaking cool. I think that'd be awesome. You're watching flag football in the Olympics and there's Tom Brady. It will certainly, I say certainly, it would definitely have an opportunity to extend the career of some of these guys, right? Like, you know, not guys who just have dead arms now like Drew Brees, but like I don't know what the arm situation will be in 2028 for Tom Brady when it'll be like damn near
Starting point is 00:12:13 50, but like Tom Brady goes out and slings it. Why not? I'd have fun watching that. Be a good time. And anywho, there you go. More to come. Go birds.

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