The Josh Innes Show - Trump Pardon's Rose

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

Donald Trump is going to pardon Pete Rose. For what? Who knows. You know, it seems that the Pete Rose topic no longer a Mt. Rushmore sports radio topic...and that's a good thing. How can people discuss athletes they never saw play? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, kiddos, how are ya? It's Josh, you know that already. I was reading that Donald Trump is going to pardon Pete Rose. For what? I don't know. I know the guy went to jail for, like, tax evasion or something back, you know, 20-something years ago. Other than that, I don't know. Oh, and is he gonna, like, you know, maybe, I don't know. Pardon him for fucking that 14 year old. Or is that listen? He didn't know in his defense. She looked like she was 15 point on the internet is that everybody is, you know, they're all out there and they're all in these sex cults and they're all got underage kids and sex trafficking and whatever. But a lot of the same people that do that are just that they are, they are easily swayed when they hear Pete Rose, old white dudes love Pete Rose. It doesn't matter

how many 14 year olds you might've fucked it when you were in your thirties, by the way, fifth, 14, 15 years old, you're in your thirties, right? Now the argument was always, well, if she was 16, that was the age of consent. Be that as it may, it's still very strange and kind of falls into the category of weird, creepy Hollywood pedophile types. When you're like 37 and you're bearing you're in your mid ths and you're banging a 16 year old but it is what it is but trump is gonna pardon him so the good news is guys there's look i'm aware that there might be other issues but trump has found the most pressing issue to his base his base of course being 97 year old white dudes that watched baseball back when there were dudes named jelly legs playing pre-civil rights his group of people are like goddamn right let's let's do what's right

for pete pete deserves this so really good on trump for focusing on the pressing issues i know many of you were wondering uh well, Josh, what does Pete Rose have to be pardoned for? No fucking clue. But Trump's going to find something to pardon him for. It's almost like you want to tell him, Donald, you cannot win the election again. You cannot run again. It is over. This is your last time being president. You don't have to pander to 76-year-old white dudes from the Midwest anymore. It's over. You've won. You've won twice.

It's truly one of the most amazing, shocking political victories in the history of politics. The two times that you have been president, it's truly remarkable. Like no one would have ever thought dude from television would win the presidency once, let alone twice. You have pulled off the greatest political accomplishment ever. Not, you know, Dewey defeats Truman, but Truman actually won. None of that. All the great political upsets and shocking things that have happened, Arnold being the governor of California,

Jesse the Mind Ventura being the governor of Minnesota, all child's play compared to you, Donald Trump, being the president twice. By the time it's all said and done, more than likely eight years as the president of the United States. The most unlikely thing ever in politics. You no longer have to do things like pardon Pete Rose. It's not necessary. You don't need to do it. Your base isn't going to go anywhere. You've got your base. You're not going to lose your base. Now, if you

were running for president right now and you're like, well, shit, how do I really go get that coveted 81 to 84 year old white farmer demo in Ohio? Then yes, pardon Pete Rose have at it that sounds like a real winning strategy right now who gives a fuck except for sports radio people actually you know what I'll give sports radio people credit sports radio people I guess have now aged out of the Pete Rose demo that's a blessing actually because it used to be that was like on the Mount Rushmore of lazy topics that people would discuss on sports radio that's not the case anymore and I think mostly because all the dudes that were alive to watch Pete Rose many of those dudes have been fired because they made too much money and they've been replaced by slapdick kids that make like 30 grand a year and those kids didn't watch Pete

Rose or give a fuck about Pete Rose that's why you get like LeBron conversation and shit like that but you don't waste your time with should Pete Rose be in the Hall of Fame. In fact, it's I really think the Pete Rose Hall of Fame discussions kind of been retired. Like it's no longer on the Mount Rushmore because Mount Rushmore to me indicates active shit, like at least in this argument, active sports radio conversations. Like if you're in Philadelphia, the Mount Rushmore of topics would have to do with the process and would have to do with why do you hate the Cowboys and that type of shit, right? Those are active Mount Rushmore Philadelphia radio topics, right? I don't even know what the active radio topics are in Houston as it relates to sports. I don't really know. Like, you know,

they probably still talk about how the world thinks they're fucking cheaters and how, you know, no one likes us. And they probably still talk about that some, and they probably still talk about how the world thinks they're fucking cheaters and how you know no one likes us and they probably still talk about that some and they probably still really there aren't it's a different type of market right so you don't get those long time like it used to be vince young when i got to houston the big talking point was still vince young because vince was playing relatively well in the nfl this is 2009 how did you draft mario williams over vince young when vince is from houston he's from texas he's a texas guy how did you let this fucking happen and how did you let him get drafted by the titans the people that took the team out of houston like all that shit that was like an active hot topic no one gives a fuck about that anymore and it's mostly because the people that

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Mahomes type shit, like that would do it. I guess I gotta compliment sports media to a degree because Pete Rose is just kind of an afterthought at this point. The only person keeping the name of Pete Rose alive seemingly is the president of the United States. now today I read that now you know that Rob Manfred's going to start kind of paying attention to the petitions that people are signing their petitions and everything else about getting Pete Rose into the Hall of Fame now those people won't be happy

because Pete Rose never got to see himself go into the Hall of Fame because he's dead. But posthumously, they want to see him posthumously put in the Hall of Fame. I'm glad that we've hit a point where the people that care about this for the most part are dead and it's not a discussion anymore. Like some 25-year-old dude, 26-year-old dude doing sports radio today, didn't watch Pete Rose Rose play wasn't born when Pete Rose was playing didn't give a shit like that's the kind of shit I find interesting right like um anytime somebody does like here's my Mount Rushmore of players from this team or whatever is I feel weird saying that if I didn't watch somebody play right so like I'm a Cardinals guy right and they'll say well, well, you know,

obviously, you know, Dizzy Dean is on that list or obviously Stan Musial. And obviously I know that Stan Musial is an all-time great player. I know that he's an all-time great Cardinal. I know that he's one of the best baseball players to ever play because his statistics bear that out. However, I don't understand how you go on radio or television and just definitively have this knockdown drag out over whether or not like it was. I forgot where I was. I was in a Mexican restaurant last week and MLB Network was on and it was like, here's Chris Mad Dog Russo's top shortstops of all time or some shit like their pitchers or whatever it was. And there's dudes that played in the 30s.

I'm like, dude, you didn't watch these people play. How does your opinion hold any value or merit if you didn't watch them play? Like, I watched Michael Jordan play. I know how I feel about Michael Jordan. I watched Larry Bird to a degree, but not as much as I saw Jordan. When I was a kid, I watched Jordan. Bird, his heyday was when I was very young, but I've seen a lot of highlights. And highlights are great, but it's just that. It's highlights. It's not a night in, night out type of deal. It's a best of package, right?

But I feel so weird when I see people who are in their 40s or 50s trying to break down ball players that played in the 20s. Babe Ruth played baseball 100 fucking years ago. Actually, well over 100 years ago. Babe Ruth was almost done playing baseball 100 years ago. Babe Ruth played baseball a hundred fucking years ago, actually well over a hundred years ago. Babe Ruth was almost done playing baseball a hundred years ago. Babe Ruth came into baseball in like the 19 teens, right? Am I right on that? The twenties. So Babe Ruth, like 120 years ago, started playing baseball. No one alive today watched Babe Ruth play baseball more than likely. And if you are like the best case scenario, you're like 90 something years old, right? So how do we watch that? How do you go and say, this guy's the one of the best ever. And then like, do it with such fervor. If you didn't watch them play, that's where I struggle. Maybe I'm a dipshit. Maybe I look too deep into it, but anytime I do

a list of the all time greatest players, I put the caveat of all-time greatest players that I watched play because I didn't watch Bill Russell play. I didn't watch Pete Maravich play. I've seen a shit ton of highlights of Pete Maravich. I never watched Pete Maravich play. So what I like, I feel almost dishonest sitting there breaking down dudes that I never watched play. Like, it just feels like, how do you do that? So like with so much defiance, right? How do you do that with so much fervor and fire, right? How can you allow yourself to do that? And I cannot, I just, I cannot do that. So when you say, Josh, who do you think is the best baseball player you've ever seen? Honestly, the best hitter I've ever watched with my own two eyes, the best hitter I've ever seen is Albert Pujols for the 10 years he played in St. Louis you will have never seen a more complete hitter in your life get gap to gap doubles extra base hits power hit for average dude averaged a three like he had one season under 300 in the 10 years he played in St. Louis and in that year he hit 298. Dude averaged like 328 when he was with the Cardinals. Oh, and by the way, 40 homers a year and 100 RBIs. And he walked more than he struck out.

Dude's the best hitter I ever watched play. That is my opinion based on who I watched play. Well, Josh, he's no Jolton Joe DiMaggio. Well, I didn't fucking watch Jolton Joe DiMaggio play. And it would be dishonest for me to just look at his numbers and go, yep, he's better than this guy. I can tell you the dudes from my generation of shit that I watched play. And I can tell you, you know, it was a great fucking hitter. King Griffey Jr. is one of the greatest baseball players I've ever seen. When Griffey Jr. was healthy, nobody was more important to baseball and making people interested in baseball than King Griffey Jr. He brought in a new audience to it. And oh, by the way,

if he wouldn't have battled injuries for the last decade of his career, he might've hit 800 home runs. Dude was a beast, sweet left-handed stroke, backwards hat. What a fucking guy, right? Like those are the kind of guys I can break that down for you. I can tell you about pitchers that I watched. I can tell you about basketball players that I watched. I can tell you about basketball players that I watched. I didn't see John Havlicek play basketball. So I can't tell you how good John Havlicek was. And you might say, well, Josh, that takes the fun out of it, just being so critical of that.

Maybe so. I can't do that. Like, build an argument. Say, who's the best hitter you've ever had? Babe Ruth's the best hitter of all time. All right, tell me something about Babe Ruth that does not involve Babe Ruth's numbers. Like, don't just spit out and regurgitate 714 home runs.

Don't just regurgitate that shit. Tell me something about Babe Ruth. Give me an anecdote about Babe Ruth that you saw that made him such a great player. But you can't use stats. Like, Albert Pujols. I can look at Albert Pujols and say, well, you can't say 700 home runs. Well, good, I can't say 700.

And you can't say that his batting average in St. Louis was 330. You can't say that. Well, what made him such a special player? Well, the fact that when he came into the league, the guy played third base, left field. I think he played a little bit of shortstop maybe too. Maybe not shortstop, but he played at third. He played in the outfield he played at first base uh the guy could I guess I said gap to gap

he was a doubles type of hitter the guy could hit for average hit for power he didn't strike out and then I can give you anecdotes from certain games I can't do that for Babe Ruth all you would be doing is regurgitating statistics for Babe Ruth and maybe Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player that ever lived and maybe it's an amazing accomplishment that Babe Ruth was hammered and fucking broads and smoking cigars and he was hitting 714 home runs. Maybe so. And he was swinging a tree trunk to do it. All those things could be true.

But I didn't watch it. Hell, I think the greatest, just a random thought, the greatest athletes of all time are not the dudes we're seeing right now, not the guys that can jump out of the gym, not the guys who are just physical specimens, the guys that walk in and you're like, holy shit, that guy's yoked and jacked. What a dude.

It's not those guys. The most impressive athletes are the dudes that were able to roll out burning fucking heaters in the clubhouse and then go out and win football games or basketball games. Those are real men. There's a great shot of Lynn Dawson, and I think he's in the locker room during the Super Bowl. The first Super Bowl, I think, is when this picture is from.

But it's Lenny Dawson, quarterback of the Kansas City Chiefs, number 16, white jersey, white pants. And he's sitting in the locker room in a fold-up chair, not in a fancy-ass locker room where there's neon lights and music playing, and you got trainers over here and hey come get some fucking fruit over here it was just like a bare cold room and he's sitting in like a shitty folding chair just got a dart just lit up and going that's at halftime of a professional football game they're like that is a specimen that's what grown men do you know we sit there and everybody wants

to tell you about how great women's sports are now like women's basketball you gotta watch women's basketball they're really changing the game and then you turn it on and you're like this isn't all that impressive i watched baseball players high on cocaine playing baseball and it was fucking amazing i've watched where like dudes who would be classified as morbidly obese are striking dudes out, and you're like, that's an accomplishment. Two girls fighting each other in a basketball game ain't much of an accomplishment. Nothing against it. Good for you.

Hope you enjoy doing it. I know I'm kind of all over the place. I apologize. What did this start with? Oh, it all started with talk about Pete Rose. Now, again, I am glad that Pete Rose is seemingly off of the Mount Rushmore of sports radio topics at least because most people that would care have died.

Yet, our president finds this to be a very important thing. So, Trump finds it important, his base will find it important. Anyway, more to come.