The Josh Innes Show - Was Tyson/Paul Fight Scripted?

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

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All right, Jemokes. That Tyson-Paul fight on Friday was a gigantic waste of all of our time, right? It was a boring—the whole deal was boring. Now, in fairness, I didn't see a lot of the stuff leading up to the fight because we had to deal with Netflix having that circle of death, 25% loading for most of the undercard. Not that I was going to watch the undercard anyway. It's not like I'm dying to watch the lady boxers who fucked each other up pretty good. And it was pretty obvious the one gal cheated and headbutted the other gal because there ain't no way your eye is getting busted open that way if someone doesn't headbutt you.

But whatever. I don't know a ton about boxing, so it is what it is. And I didn't really care to watch a bunch of the stuff leading up to it. I was there for the main event. I was there for Tyson Paul. Now, I did bet on the fight. I told you guys this. I took Mike Tyson to have one knockdown, at least one knockdown in the fight, and that was plus 200, I think.

And I'm like, listen, if this thing is going to be rigged, then they're probably going to rig it where Tyson gets a knockdown. Holy shit, he still got it. And then they let Paul win because Paul has to keep fighting and doesn't want to look like a schmuck losing to a 60-year-old dude. I thought that was the route this whole thing was going to take. As it turns out, it didn't take that route at all because it was just basically 16 minutes of dudes hopping and bopping around the ring doing absolutely nothing, a lot of tie-ups. It was boring. It was a waste of time.

And I've seen a lot of people, like media people and other people, saying, well, if you expected anything else out of this, that's on you, and you're stupid. It was fine. I'm like, well, no. If you could expect a good presentation, something entertaining, you could expect Netflix to not be a total disaster and make it difficult for people to watch. There were a lot of other things you could have expected from that. I just thought it was awful.

And look, I bought into it. I wanted it to be good. I wanted it to be interesting. I wanted something fun to come out of it, and I bet on it like a total. You want to know, here's where I feel like a dipshit. I was talking with AJ about this. So I think AJ took the bet of over of over the uh the number of rounds the fight would go which

I think was five and a half it was an eight round fight two minute rounds and I think he took the over five and a half rounds maybe and that was the play because when you watch the actual fight it was a clear situation where Paul just carried Tyson I don't know if it was scripted I don't know if it was rigged although I'm starting to buy. I don't know if it was scripted. I don't know if it was rigged, although I'm starting to buy into a lot of that shit. He was just out there not trying to embarrass the guy. And, you know, Mike collects a check. See, they say, okay, let's do this.

Here's where this pisses me off, right? So people say, why did you expect anything else from this? Why should you expect anything different? Oh, I don't know, because the two of these guys combined are going to make $60 million off of this shit. So at least give us something that's entertaining. This wasn't entertaining. If you're going to rig it, make it fun.

Rig it and make it competitive. Rig it and make it a situation where Tyson delivers a big blow and knocks him out and people are excited. Like to me, that's the reason why I don't think this thing was rigged. If it was rigged, they could have made it far more entertaining than it was. Like, I want to believe it was rigged because it was so bad. But then I look at it on the other side and say, I don't, first of all, like, do I believe that like they knew the outcome who would win the fight before? Probably.

Like, I don't think Jake Paul's going to go into that situation going, Hey, it's good for my brand to get knocked out by a 60-year-old dude. So I don't believe that they went into this fight thinking, okay, we don't know who's winning. They knew who was going to win the fight going in. It was going to be Jake Paul going in. But if you were going to give us a show, give us a fucking show. Treat it like WWE. Yes, a bunch of us schmucks bet on it like a bunch of idiots. Fine, it is what it is. You know, we're the idiots but at least provide us with something entertaining give us some wwe we had the story we had the build-up to it we had the documentary series to watch how about you give us a fight like i would have rather

them fake the fight and make the fight compelling than what we watched which was just pathetic that's the reason why i don't think it was fixed. If it was fixed, I feel like they would have made it more fun. Maybe each guy gets a knockdown, a couple of big blows delivered. There was nothing. Now, if you want to buy into the idea that it is rigged, if you watch early in the fight where they scored Tyson winning the first two rounds, if you watch that,

Tyson gets a couple of blows in there and he's got a little energy. And then the next six rounds, he just sits around biting his fucking glove the whole time. And you're like, what is happening here? Now that could just be that he's old and he had all of his energy in the first two rounds. Then he was out, but it could also be a situation where maybe he started going off script I don't know he comes out aggressive and he's laying some laying the wood a little bit and they're like hold on chief they tie up at one point this is where the conspiracy theorists I've seen videos like they tie up at one point and the ref kind of gets in the middle of it and you're like is this a situation where he's like hey bro it's an exhibition it's supposed to be an exhibition

this guy doesn't know it's fake but uh i was so fucking bored doing that like i wanted it to be awesome i wanted it to be fun i wanted there to to be something memorable happening like that's what i was here for and i don't buy into the idea that well that's just your fault then you came into it thinking it was going to be something different than it was no that's not my fault wanting to come into something being entertained and then not being entertained is not my fault when the final product was in no way entertaining there's nobody that came out of that fight that I've seen write about it or comment on it that has said, you know what? The Tyson fight was exciting or it was great. It was nostalgia, but it wasn't even really nostalgia because it was just 16 minutes of an old man biting his glove, just moving around the ring

doing nothing. So I don't know. I don't buy that. I don't like the idea that I'm the schmuck in this case because I wanted this to be something else. Like I think that arrogant pricks say shit like that. Well, well, if you came into it expecting anything else, that's your fault. I thought it was entertaining and I went into it for what it was. Congrats to those guys. Congrats on them making all that money. Good job. Give me something entertaining. That's all I wanted. Fake it if you have to, but make it compelling. I believe that Jake Paul knows the concept of entertaining people. That's how he's gotten to where he's gotten being this heel character that he plays. He knows how to entertain people. That wasn't entertaining. That's why I don't believe that

this fight was in any way fixed because if it were, it would have been more interesting. It would have been more exciting. We would have had drama. It would have been like watching the final fight in Rocky or Rocky 2 or Rocky 3 or Rocky 4 or Rocky 5 in the street with Tommy Gunn or Rocky Balboa or Creed or Creed two or Creed three. Those were exciting fights because they were scripted. Like, have you ever watched the way that Stallone would, would map these out? It's pretty, it's meticulous and it's specific. Like it's fascinating how they would script out

these fights. Like a lot of work goes into that. If you've never watched the making of any of these Rocky movies, you need to because it's fascinating. Stallone is just brilliant in the way they did all that stuff. So I was captivated watching how... I'm not someone that can put a lot of... I'm not an attention to detail guy. Maybe if I were an attention to detail guy, then maybe I'd be better at what I do. And maybe I'm the one doing it wrong, but I just don't like it. Like I can't go in and fully prep something out. Like when I'm on the radio, some people have to script out and prep out an entire show. I've worked with buddies that have little grids and they have like 16 boxes on them. And each box represents a quarter hour from their four hour show and at 12 15 we're

doing this and then at 12 30 we're doing this and at 12 45 we're doing this and like they don't break from that script they don't deviate from that script they know exactly what they're going to do and they don't go anywhere different there's not a call that takes them in a different direction there's nothing it is a scripted show and some people have to do that. Me, historically, when I was doing talk radio, I would just have a legal pad and I would write a couple of bullet points about shit that I thought was the biggest topics of the day. And I would go with them where I felt they made the most sense. And usually I would go in a bunch of different directions and the show would never go exactly how I planned it. I'm not someone that's a big planner. I hate doing

that. Like I'm just, I'm not an that's a big planner. I hate doing that. Like I'm just, I'm not an over-prepared person. I'm prepared in the sense that I know what I want to talk about and I know what my angle is going to be on it, unless like it's a breaking story, but I'm not prepared in the sense that every single segment has a predetermined destination and we are going to that and it's all predetermined an hour before the show. The show is going to go where the show is going to go, right? A lot of people don't operate that way. A lot of people have to have, here's my A topic. I'm going to take this topic from the top of the hour to 11 after. I'm going to tease this next topic. When we come back at 15, we're going to do that topic. Like that's just not

how I operate. And maybe that's a bad thing. Maybe my gift of gab and like this gift that I've been given to just kind of go with shit is to my detriment. Probably is. But I've never been that way. But if you look at the detail that goes into mapping out and scripting and shooting these fights at the end of Rocky movies, they're nuts, dude. You need like go watch the making of Rocky. Like, I don't think i could do it like credit to stallone right because to go in there and go into great detail on everything that you see there and like and how it's going to turn out on the screen and how you

film it dude it's nuts i i don't know dude i i enjoyed watching that thoroughly so if you've never seen anything like that do it and when i see the way he's able to map that out, like then I watched this Tyson fight. I don't believe this Tyson fight was scripted because it just wasn't fun. It wasn't interesting. It was boring. It was slow. The audience never really got into it. The people in the arena never got into it.

The announcers were terrible like I understand that Rosie Perez is apparently like like big time boxing aficionado and I'm not saying she doesn't know it I don't know anything about fucking boxing so she could be saying anything and I would think well she must know she's Rosie Perez boxing aficionado but the lead announcer on that was fucking terrible I guess the other dude was Roy Jones. He was terrible. Rosie Perez seemed uncomfortable and said nothing interesting. Like if you want to look at the bigger picture issue with the Netflix thing, and a lot of people were pissed off about the crashing, about the site crashing and everything, and or not being able to access the fight. And I get that because I was pissed off too. I got lucky that right around the time Jake Paul

came out, my feed came back and it stayed on for the fight. Although I. I got lucky that right around the time Jake Paul came out, my feed came back and it stayed on for the fight. Although I say I'm lucky, I'm not really that lucky because then I had to watch that fucking fight. But all right, let's play a couple of commercials here. And then we'll talk about the overall presentation of the fight and what that means moving forward, because Netflix does have the Christmas or black. I think there's a, there's black Friday or Christmas. I think there's a Christmas or Christmas, I think there's a Christmas game, so for the NFL, and a lot of people are worried about that, and people are worried about wrestling, too, for whatever reason, so we'll talk about that and some other stuff,

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the netflix presentation of this it was really bad from the announcers the camera work sucked the interviews were terrible like there was the there was also the great scene where where Tyson's being interviewed in the back they leave the camera on him so long that when he turns around you can see that his ass cheeks are just bare like he's wearing uh like you know uh like a uh like a supporter or whatever but like he just looks like he's wearing assless chaps walking away and people have compared that to Lizzo and it's actually hysterical but like everything about the broadcast of this was terrible. Announcers, camera, everything sucked.

And a lot of people were bitching online about what that's going to mean for the NFL game. And I think that's a fair bitch. Because they're claiming 60 million people overall watch this fight. And who knows how true that is. They can fudge those numbers all they want but they say 60 million I would say then that an NFL game on a holiday will probably be somewhere between 17 to 22 million people watching probably I think that's around the neighborhood you get for like a Sunday night football game so you're going to be somewhere in that 17 20 22 million will they

be able to handle that on Netflix? That I don't fucking know. Right. Uh, maybe I think that you have now a month or however long you have to figure your shit out because it was bad. And the last thing people want, it's one thing for like a schlocky fake money grab fight to have an issue. It's another thing when you're fucking with people's NFL, which is the most important thing to most people it's you're fucking with gamblers at that point you're fucking with fantasy people at that point you're fucking with fans at that point and that's the number one product that's out there so figure your shit out the last thing I want to be is at home or at a bar trying to watch that game and then I'm stuck with is that is that the Texans game that's

going to be on there is that the Texans Christmas game but going to be on there? Is that the Texans Christmas game? But that's the last thing I fucking want is to be sitting there and I get that circle of death 25% and we're screwed. I don't even know who the announcers are going to be for that. I'm not sure. I'm sure they've said who the announcers are going to be for that. Now I've got to find out. Who are the announcers for the Netflix NFL game? Let's see. Let's dig into this a little bit here. Talk

amongst yourselves. NFL Netflix game announcers. Let's see who is doing the Netflix game. It won't. Oh, Ian and Noah Eagle. Oh, so basically Ian Eagle's kid, Noah, is like the guy that gets to do all the kind of like wacky different broadcasts. Like he does the Thanksgiving one with like SpongeBob and shit, which is actually more entertaining than the games themselves. And I'm whole, is there going to be a Nickelodeon game this year? Because the Nickelodeon game should be far more entertaining than any of the games that are scheduled, at least the first two games scheduled for Thanksgiving. So maybe we'll get us, usually it's that mid-afternoon game, I think. So maybe we'll get our Nickelodeon game with Noah Eagle and SpongeBob and SpongeBob's buddy and all that shit. So maybe so. It will be Ian and Noah Eagle, so father and and son and then Nate Burleson JJ Watt and Greg Olson

as analysts Netflix will broadcast his first NFL game on Christmas Day featuring play-by-play announcers Ian Eagle and Noah Eagle and uh that is from the Times of India so I'm not going to click on that because my computer will probably get cancer uh Let's see. So they got the announcers set for that. And that will be, that is actually, that broadcast will be the Chiefs and the Steelers. I should have known this before, but I didn't because I'm stupid. Ian Eagle will call games with the CBS number two NFL team, Burleson and Watt, who will be on the call while his brother TJ plays for the Steelers. There you go. So now you know. But you start screwing with people's NFL, then you're dealing with an issue. I also like all the wrestling people who are like, what does this mean for Monday Night Raw? You better get your shit together.

Friends, let's just say that 60 million people watched the Tyson fight. Hell, let's say one-tenth of that. Let's say one-twentieth of those people watched the Tyson fight, right? Let's say half of those people, 30 million. Let's say 20 million people watched the Tyson fight. That is like 20 times the number of people who watch Monday Night Raw. I don't think they're going to lose the bandwidth or have any issues supporting the audience that they're going to have from Monday Night Raw. No knock on wrestling.

Wrestling's fine. Jilly watches it. Whatever. My grandma used to love it. It's wrestling. That's fine. I get it. I don't think you're going to run into too much of an issue when you've got 60 million people watching Tyson versus like 2 million that you get for wrestling.

And I think the average WWE audience for Monday Night Raw is somewhere around two and a half million people. Two and a half million people is a whole hell of a lot different than 60 million people allegedly. So I don't think it's going to be a massive issue. Like people act like these streaming services don't do this kind of shit already anyway. Never have any issues with the Amazon Prime games. They look great and they're fine. So you get it on there. We've seen it on ESPN Plus and shit.

So you got pro broadcasters doing this football game on Netflix. So I'm not overly concerned about any of that. But people are all just concerned. Oh my God, what happens to my wrestling? Nothing. Your wrestling will be fine. that but people are all just concerned oh my god what happens to my wrestling nothing your wrestling will be fine uh i'd say that the football would be a bigger concern but i wouldn't say that the football is like like i'm i'm worried about it at this point because i'm not they'll figure it out

they saw what happened here they figured out what went wrong like the people that work in this kind of shit are brilliant i'm not i know nothing about this shit so like the idea that work in this kind of shit are brilliant. I'm not. I know nothing about this shit. So, like, the idea that they're not going to figure it out is preposterous to me. They will figure it out. But people just want to be all just angry all the time about all this shit. Like, they'll figure it out. Get over yourselves. Everything will be fine, Jack. Deal with it.

All right. So, anyway, that's thoughts on Tyson. Let me give you one thing really quick. I have a couple other things I want to mention while we're just hanging out here Jelly showed me a post in our local little community here's Facebook group and somebody has a

diva dog much like my dog Luther was who couldn't stay at home by himself all this shit and I guess these people are traveling for a week and their dog, who's like a wire haired terrier mixed with something. They're looking for a dog sitter for this dog. And they have like this whole list of specifications. They're like, well, he doesn't really like to be left in a kennel and he doesn't like to be left at home alone. He's five years old, has to be somebody that has a fenced in backyard because he's not used to going to the bathroom on a leash or anything like that. And I'm like, as ridiculous as this sounds,

that's exactly how my dog was. I don't know how much they're charging. I don't know. And I also, you never know if you're getting scammed on Facebook or anything either, but it's in the Kirkwood, Missouri Facebook group. So I don't feel like, like it's going to be a massive scam. They have a picture of the dog. The dog's cute. They say the dog just wants to hang out and cuddle. And I guess they need a dog sitter from December 27th to January 4th. If there's one thing I know it's that I ain't got dick going on from December 27th to January 4th. I don't have a fucking job. So, like, I can do whatever. I don't know how much or how much to ask for because I don't know what, like, a week's worth or seven or eight days of dog sitting is worth.

I know that if you had a dog at a daycare, just doing the math on this, because I've had a dog at dog daycare that stays the night and does all that. If you do the math, you're probably looking at 40 or 50 bucks on the low end if you had your dog go to a dog daycare and stay the night. So if I ask for 50 bucks a day for seven days, what is that, like 350 bucks? Would that be too low to ask for? I'm thinking about having Jilly get in there and send a message and be like, hey, listen, our dog just died. We're not lunatics. Our dog was also high maintenance like your poly prissy pants over here that has all these, you know, requirements and shit. Let's fucking go. Then we can have a dog for a week. And we want to get a dog, but it's kind of a pain in the ass right now because we don't know where we're going to live.

There's a very good possibility we'll be living in Baton Rouge soon,on rouge or houston neither one of those have a job for us but we have to get the fuck out of here your boy can't keep paying twenty five hundred dollars a month for rent on this crappy house uh when he doesn't have any income coming in so uh i'm not one to turn down a gig at this point so maybe i should reach out and be like hey listen how much you paying to watch the dog is that tacky if if the first thing you ask is, hey, how much to watch the fucking mutt? How do you intro this and go, hey, I saw that you have a dog

and you're looking for a dog sitter for a week? Or does it feel like a scam? Who just goes to Facebook and asks randos to watch their dog? What if these people just show up and they're like, ha ha, we're coming to drop the dog off. And then they show up and kick in the door and then hold us hostage and steal all of my shit. St. Louis, you never know.

That's why I don't have a Facebook account like Jilly wants me to sell some shit on Facebook Marketplace. Bullshit. Get my ass on Facebook. First of all, I'd have to get back on Facebook, which I have no desire to do because Facebook is the devil. But then let's say I do get back on Facebook and sell shit. What if some, you know, some people have a fake account on Facebook where it's like this nice old couple the Smithsons and they're hanging out and they're like we'd love to buy your couch me and Maybel are coming over to pick it up in our pickup truck where that we're driving over from Waterloo Illinois and then they

show up at the house and I get a knock on the door and it's some hardened street toughs that whack me over the head and steal all my shit. That's the problem. Look, you might say, Josh, that's an irrational fear. No, that's a legitimate fear. Because people scam you on the Facebook. And we all know what Facebook exists for. That's why I don't have Facebook anymore.

It's old people who fall for onion stories and then share them as if they're real because they're too stupid to know that they're fake like pregnant man gives birth like ma'am no although people do believe that now that joke from so i married an axe murder doesn't hold up as well but there's that or there's old people who get scammed into thinking they're going to be arrested if they don't supply police officers with Home Depot gift cards immediately. And people fall for that. That's not made up. I read a story about that when we were in Nashville. You see it all the time.

So do I really want to get on Facebook? These are the questions. Anyway, all right, we shall reconvene the Texans play tonight, so we'll do a Texans recap. No sense in doing a preview for it. It's been a week. I mean, you know, the Cowboys suck. The Texans are desperate for a win.

We'll just let the chips fall where they may, and we will discuss.