The Josh Innes Show - What NFL Teams Are Actually Good?

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

My buddy texted me yesterday saying the Lions aren't good because they haven't beaten any good teams. I find this absurd because by that logic, no one is actually good. Which teams are good? Let's take a look. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Like, I already knew the Rams were a pretty dangerous team. You know, Pooka Nakua when he's hell. I don't know what his health status is right now, but Pooka Nakua is pretty good. You know, Matt Stafford's pretty good. Devante Adams is pretty good. Their defense is pretty good. I didn't need to see them beat the fucking Ravens. The Ravens are terrible.

I didn't need to see the Rams beat Cooper Rush to know that the Rams are pretty good. But thank you, USA Today. You're really hitting home runs here with your Rams remind NFL why they're a dangerous team in win over Ravens. Nobody proves they're a dangerous team by beating the Lamarless Ravens who have one of the worst defenses in the NFL. I'd actually argue that maybe the Rams are not dangerous. If I wanted to make an argument, if this is the debate we're having,

I would argue that maybe the Rams prove they're not dangerous, considering that they didn't move the ball particularly well for a large portion of the game against the worst defense in the NFL. Certainly one of the worst. It's three to three at halftime. Boy, people write dumb shit. All right, let's play a couple commercials, and we will continue. I was having this talk with a buddy of mine yesterday, but, like, who in the NFL is actually good?

Like, who do you watch and go, these guys are really good? Like, go look around the NFL and look at the games yesterday and look at the teams and tell me who you think is a legitimately good team. Because every time you talk about a team, you'll get someone saying that, like, I was talking to about the Lions. So I still think are good. They lost to the Chiefs, big fucking deal. It's a road game. It's the NFL. It's Patrick Mahomes. You're going to lose games. So I still think that that's a good football team. I think the lions are a really good team, but what's going to happen to them again is they're going to deal with injuries again. And that's what we're looking at right now. Like the defense continues to be hurt. It's like, well, they beat a bunch of bad teams. Well, I mean, look, how many people are beating good teams?

Like, what good teams are the bills beating? You know, everybody loves to blow the bills. You know who the bills have beaten the Ravens. You know, the Lions have beaten the Ravens. Like the bills play tonight against the Falcons. What's going to happen is they're going to happen is they're going to. going to beat the Falcons, and you're going to go, oh, they beat another bad team. Like, look at the bills and tell me who the bills have beaten to prove that they're some sort of juggernaut. Here's who they've beaten. The Ravens and the Jets are arguably, especially without Lamar. Now, they beat Lamar, so that's a different one.

But Ravens and Jets and Dolphins and Saints. You could not have found a softer start to the schedule. Oh, and you played the Patriots and fucking lost. God, how do the bills end up with such a shitty schedule? Holy shit. For a team that's so good, usually you would think, hey, your schedule's going to have some good teams on it. Look at the Bills.

They're at the Falcons who are okay. The Panthers who are not okay. They'll beat the Panthers. The Chiefs who are the Chiefs. Then you get the division game with the Dolphins again who are a mess. The Bucks who we like a lot. The Texans who will see what they are come November 20th. The Steelers, to me, are overrated as all hell.

They're not good offensively. The schedule for the Steelers may actually be worse than that of the Ravens. Then you've got the Bengals who are terrible, but Joe may be back by then. Who knows? The Patriots who are fine, the Browns who are God-awful, the Eagles who are good and the Jets. But the first stretch of the season, I mean, they've played nobody. Let me see. I'm curious.

Let me see. I don't see the Steelers schedule. You want to talk about a team that's really, like, played nobody. You've got the Jets. You got the Seahawks. Seahawks aren't bad. Patriots who they beat because the Patriots beat themselves. The Vikings are the backup quarterback.

and the Browns. Then they got the Bengals coming up next. Oh, God, that's an ugly Thursday game. Hopefully, Joe Flacco is at least closer to the second half of that game, Joe Flacco, than he is. The first half of that game and Cleveland Joe Flacco? Because, boy, Thursday night football could be a disaster.

But really, who are the good teams in the NFL? Because I have a buddy of mine who just literally says that every team sucks. When I say, hey, I think the lions are good. Well, you know, the league sucks. They've played nobody. Who's played anybody? Like, who could a team beat in the NFL that some people would go, hey, good win.

There just aren't a lot of them out there. There aren't a lot of sexy teams out there. But come January, it'll be the same usual suspects, Kansas City, Buffalo. It'll be the same fucking people that we see all the time. But just look around the league and you're like, okay, look at the games yesterday. Let's take a look at some of these from yesterday. You got the Broncos and the Jets. I get that the Broncos are four and two.

The Broncos, as I said on the pod Friday, I didn't think we're going to have an easy time with the Jets, but they would win and they did. They were inept in the second half offensively. You want to know what the score was in the second half of that game? The Jets outscored the Broncos five to three. I think the Colts are legitimately good. They just keep finding ways to do it. Like Daniel Jones is not playing as well as he did two or three weeks ago.

Still playing well. And again, they're a team that's also played a pretty loserish schedule. So you do want to see what happens if they start playing better teams. But they played the Rams lost that game. They should have won it. They didn't. Raiders suck. They beat them.

Cardinals suck. They beat them. Titans are dreadful. They beat them. Dolphins suck. They beat them. And the Broncos are okay. Record-wise, the Broncos are fine.

But I don't know that the Broncos are really all that good. But they beat them. But they're another team that if you start looking, they're going to get the Chiefs. They're going to take on the Texans twice. They get the Seahawks who are decent. They got the 49ers coming up. The Jaguars who are another team that's also, you know, decent. So theirs will get tougher.

But to start the season, they've gone out and played bunch of stiffs for the most part. But I do think the Colts are pretty solid. Chargers, you're talking about a team that was really in danger falling off a cliff, and that was the Chargers. The whole world was on the Chargers three weeks ago, and they were 30 seconds away from the dolphins beating them and them falling to 3 and 3, and that would have been a disaster. Patriots are sneaky good. The Patriots should be a 5-1 team. The Patriots beat themselves against the Steelers, turn the ball over in the red zone a couple times, the goal line. If they don't do that, they're a five and one team, and they're a real

story. Drake May can sling it. For all the bad quarterback play I talk about in the NFL that we talked about in a previous episode of this, about how bad the quarterback play is, Drake May is the opposite. The guy can spin it. I mean, Browns and Steelers, like, I don't think the Steelers are that good. I think, I mean, I think they're winning in ways that are not going to be sustainable, but we'll see. Look, how about the Panthers being a sneaky three and undefeated at home. Seahawks and Jags are both four and two. Jags just couldn't get anything going.

Speaking of that game, I want to tell you about heartbreak, gambling heartbreak. I had a bonus bet that I had to use. It was $125 bonus bet. So usually when I get those, I put them on things that are real long shots because it's not like I'm really losing any money. So for every team to make a field goal in the first leg of games yesterday was plus 800. So I put that $125 on it, it would have paid out $1,000. Usually I do the whole day, which is like plus $2,000 for the field goals.

I didn't do that. I said, I'm going to play it smaller and just see if I can win this thing. Plus $800. So $125 would have paid out a lot. thousand because you don't get to keep the 125 as the state because it was a bonus bet so it'd be a thousand dollars and every team made a field goal except the fucking jaguars and the jaguars missed a field goal at one point i didn't see that when it happened so i turned on the game late in the game and i knew they needed a field goal and like you know that there are possibilities for a

field goal at random times like you need a team late in the game to be down by like nine or ten so they'll kick a field goal and then like try to get an on-site kick, that type of shit. I was unaware that the Jaguars had missed a field goal earlier in the day. Because I saw the score. At one point, they had six points. I'm like, oh, they must have kicked a couple of field goals. I just assumed that theirs was a lock that they'd already made theirs. So I'm like, shit, I think I'm going to hit this thing.

Then I go and look at the Jaguars, and it turns out, no, they did not. They just didn't get an extra point. And then they missed a field goal as well. And that, friends, was good old-fashioned heartbreak. Oh, that should have been a big hit. It wasn't. But it should have been. Just thought you needed to know about my heartbreak a little bit.

Titans and Raiders both suck. Ravens suck. I think the Rams are solid. I like Matt Stafford. I like the players around Matt Stavert. Bangles suck. Packers are fine, I guess. I don't even know how to feel about the Packers.

49ers are okay. I love the bucks. I still don't know if the bucks are actually good, but I fucking love them. I know it's not sustainable to keep winning games. This is actually an 11 point win for them. Usually they're winning on the last play of the game. And I don't know that that's sustainable. I'm sure it's not. But fuck, I enjoy watching it, man. I love watching Baker. I think the lions are good. I still don't buy into the chiefs. I don't think the chiefs are worth a shit either, but they're going to keep finding ways to win and piss me off. But anyway, there you go, as far as the NFL goes. Like, who is good? That's where this whole conversation started. Who in the NFL do you look at and go, oh, they're good? And I honestly don't know. I don't know who is really good. But, like, if you use that logic, then, like, no matter who you beat, no one is ever good. Like, usually, when I talk with people, that's how it goes. Like, in college. In college football, you'll get like, well, you know, a buddy of mine, he goes, do you think LSU's actually good? I think their defense is much better than it was last year. I think their offense sucks right now. I don't know if Nuss just sucks or if he's really hurt or what the deal is.

But offensively, they're bad. But then again, they should have beaten South Carolina by 28 points, but they turned the ball over three times at the goal line, right? So they didn't. So they only won by 10, but they could have should have won that thing by three or four scores. Okay. I think they suck, he says. And they're one good wins against Clemson.

I'm like, well, you can say that about almost any team. Because once a team in college beats another team, we think that team sucks because that's a loss for them. So, like, when Ohio State beat Texas, is that a good win or a bad win for them? Because Texas has certainly had an up and down year. So is that a good win or a bad win? Like, do we discredit them? Because Texas, who's loaded with talent isn't as good this year. Do we say that that wins?

By that logic, you can literally sit there and look at any team and just go, no, they haven't beaten anybody. You know, like, so if you beat a bunch of shitty teams by 50, is that better? I don't know. I hate that kind of logic. but whatever. All right, anyway, more to come.