The Josh Innes Show - What Trump Calls Kid Rock

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

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Well, from the category of, wow, this is considered news, headline reads, Trump reveals what he calls Kid Rock while endorsing rockers MAGA restaurant. Now I'm very curious to see what President Trump calls Kid Rock. Let's see what he calls Kid Rock. Here's a quote, there's a story. On the evening of its grand opening President Donald Trump fired off support to his longtime Fred Kid Rock promoting his new Music City eatery set to officially launch June 3rd. Here is the quote from Trump. Quote, congratulations to my friend Kid Rock. I call him Bob. On the grand opening of his new Nashville restaurant, the Detroit Cowboy, Trump wrote in his Truth Social Post, I hear it's a very friendly MAGA establishment and

look forward to going there sometime soon. Well, I don't know if you knew this, but the reason he calls him Bob is because Kid Rock's name is Bob. So generally speaking, if you would see a headline that says, here's what Trump calls Kid Rock, that would be like his affectionate pet name for him is actually sugar tits or moose knuckle or something like that Like a nickname like something wacky like he goes by Kid Rock, but I call him Scipio Sullivan No, I call him Bob, which is his name Like this I know you guys listen to this and you're like Josh

do you literally just go to the USA today and mock everything that's in the USA today? Yes I do. Guys Kid Rock has a name his name is Bob and that's what Trump calls him. Big story. The big story today on action news is that President Trump calls Kid Rock Bob which is his name. I know this might come as a shock to some of you but on his birth certificate it doesn't say American badass Kid Rock it says Bob or Robert or whatever the fuck his name actually is but his name is Bob. Trump reveals what he calls Kid Rock while endorsing Rocker's MAGA restaurant. I call him Bob! Bob! Call him Bob! And he's a great guy, he's got great MAGA theme. What kind of treats do you think they have? It's called a MAGA restaurant. Do you think like

the items on the menu all have like, you know, all sort of like kind of MAGA type names like they name them after famous MAGA people like here's our Lee Greenwood salad like do you think it has shit like that here's our YMCA margarita they love margaritas they're amazing they're incredible margaritas I don't know if that's what they do or not but Bob is what Trump calls Kid Rock. And why does he call him Bob? Because his name is Bob. More to come.

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bonus picks that expire in 14 days. Limited time offer. Terms at pick6.draftkings.com slash promos. Speaking of music, I did see another story that the song Never Gonna Give You Up by Mr. Rick Astley has eclipsed one billion with a B, one billion streams. Let me make sure I'm right on that here, but let's look up Rick Astley, who by the way, people don't realize that Rick Astley, who by the way, people don't realize that Rick Astley had like four or five bangers. They all kind of sounded like the same song, but he had four or five bangers.

But Never Gonna Give You Up, I believe, has now hit the point where it is one billion. I don't know how many other songs have gotten to one billion streams. Rick Astley's never going to give you up past this 1 billion just on Spotify, which means that it's probably been heard quadruple that across all platforms and YouTube and everywhere else. Let's see, of course, Rick Rolling is the main reason. What a phenomenon that was, Rick Rolling. Nobody Rick Rolls anymore, but the guy who really cashed in on Rick Rolling was Rick Astley. Assuming he wrote the song, did

Rick Astley actually write Never Gonna Give You Up? Whoever wrote Never Gonna Give You Up just fucking scored huge with that one. Let me see here. Never Gonna Give give you up. Song by Rick Astley, but did you write the song? Song was written by Stock Apekin Waterman. Is that you? No. Are you Rick Astley? Nope. So this person who wrote that song probably made a shitload of money off of that. That's the thing people don't understand about songwriting as someone who's in the profession. I can tell you that the money is in writing the song and owning the song. That's why it was such a big story that Taylor spent this money

to get the rights to her song back, which by the way, the whole thing was a fucking scam and her dumb fans put money in her pocket for all those re-releases of the music. Now she bought the music back anyway and they're weird people. But owning the music is such a big deal and writing the music is such a big deal and writing the song is such a big deal. Like it's cool to be the performer because you're the one everybody sees and you get all the ass and you're out in front of 20,000 people but writing the song is where the money is. Example, so a gentleman by the name of Desmond Child who I have interviewed before in person and that interview is on YouTube somewhere. It was just me talking with Desmond Child who's a songwriter that wrote so

many giant hits of the 80s and was awesome. He also makes a shitload of money off of a song called The Thong Song. Why does he make a shitload of money off of the thong song, Josh? He did not write the thong song. Well, here's what happened. Whenever Cisco and these guys were making the song they never got clearance from Mr. Desmond Child to use the line She Was Livin' Lovita Loca, which was a song that was written by Desmond Child for Ricky Martin. So because of that they have to pay

him royalties on the song and he's made millions of dollars millions of dollars he's made off of the song thong song and the only Contribution he made to the song was that Cisco said that she liked the public. She was living the Vida Loca That line has gotten Desmond child millions of dollars. And Desmond Child was in a band at one point and they had a moderate hit back in the late 70s. Other than that, all of his money has come from helping write songs for Aerosmith, Cher, Clay Aiken. I mean, just go down the

list a bunch of them. Just Hugh Bon Jovi is probably his biggest collaborator. Like, that's where the money's at. So whoever wrote Never Gonna Give You Up, Rick Rowling had to been a great day for him. But a lot of people don't understand that. Like when I was a young kid, when I would hear somebody else singing a version of someone's song, like if, if, like, what's a song that had multiple versions of it? Like, do you remember the song Nobody Knows It by Me by the Tony Rich Project?

versions of it. Like do you remember the song Nobody Knows It By Me by the Tony Rich Project? Nights are lonely, the days are so, no one knows. That one? There's a country version of that song too and I believe it was by Mark Wills who was the country singer. And you'd hear the country version of that and you'd go, he stole that guy's song. When in reality whoever wrote the song is like, you can all keep singing the son of a bitch because I'm here to make all the money possible. So like when these like urban artists sample different songs, like I keep forgetting, like you know we regulate and you get I keep forgetting. Like some people view that as those guys can't come up with their own shit.

They're stealing all these guys music and that's not wrong. I mean, that's the basis of rap music, is taking someone else's shit and changing the words and rapping over it. But whoever was responsible for writing I Keep Forgetting, or whoever owned the publishing for I Keep Forgetting, which might be Michael McDonald, I don't know, whoever has that is like, sure Warren G, let's regulate and I'll just cash in. Well it's kind of like this current song. There's a song by Dochi called Anxiety and that song samples somebody that I used to know by Navichy. Who is, whoever sings something that, Gautier. Is that Gautier? No. Whoever somebody that I used to know. And like that means whoever owns that song is getting all of this money and

by the way it's a complicated thing but the point being in all of this is if you're the person that owns the publishing or owns the rights to it or wrote the song you're making all the money so who knows if Rick Astley has benefited at all from Rick rolling other than the fact that now his popularity rose again and you can probably see him on these little 80s tours and he'll sing four or five songs and then they'll bring up Paul Abdul for four or five songs and oh wow there's Kajagoogoo and oh wow there's the Human League and like he's on those kind of tours probably. Let's see I could have never imagined back in 1987 that Never Gonna Give You Up would still be going strong decades later Thanks to streaming platforms a whole new generation has been able to discover music like mine

Reaching 1 billion streams is something I never dreamed of and anyone who's ever listened. Thank you Yeah, I don't know if he makes any money off of that because a lot of these guys get hosed on streaming Anyway, like you know I who know like I think Snoop Dogg or somebody's talked about that before where you make next to no money off of every Time a song gets streamed and it's pretty much bullshit People don't realize though that my man Rick Astley did have multiple jams that all kind of sounded like never gonna give you up But there was never gonna give you up there was together forever and ever too far together forever were two

There was it would take a strong strong man to do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do

do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do to forget. It's not like he's some all-time great artist. But I think people look at Rick Astley as like a one-hit wonder dude with Never Gonna Give You Up. These were legit fucking hits, man. Let me see here. What were his... Look, I know you didn't tune in today expecting to hear a full breakdown of the Rick Astley discography, but let's see. Let's see how many hits he had. In America, I'm only basing this on American hits.

So Never Gonna Give You Up was a number one song in America. Let's see, Together Forever was a number one song in the US. It would take a strong, strong man, number 10 in the US, and She Wants to Dance with Me was number six in the US. Cry For Help was number seven in the US and she wants to dance with me was number six in the US. Cry for Help was number seven in the US. The guy had like five top ten songs in the US. See people forget that kind of shit about some of these bands because they get hung up on like the biggest hit they had. Like Starship. Starship is often accused of having the worst song ever called We Built the City. I will fight any motherfucker that wants to come to me and tell me that we built

the city is the worst song ever or is a bad song. It is a phenomenal, wonderful pop song that has a traffic update in the middle of it. It's legit but Starship which had members of Jefferson Airplane and Jefferson Starship became Starship. Great vocalist by the name of Mickey Thomas, okay? Mickey Thomas was the singer and then Grace Slick was still in the band as well and they called the group Starship. And yes, We Built This City is the song they're probably most

known for and people talk about how it's one of the worst songs ever. Bullshit, my friend. It's an amazing song, but they also, I think they had like five songs. I think they had about five hits, which is pretty good for a band that people accuse of being a one-hit wonder. And again, I'm going deep into this shit here, but you had We Built This City, Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now, which is one of the fucking greatest 80s cheesy schmaltzy songs ever. It was in a movie called Mannequin. They had another song called It's Not Over Till It's Over, which none

of you would probably know, but it goes, It's not over till it's over. Fucking jam. A song called Sarah. Sarah, Sarah, storms are brewing in your eyes. Oh, and another song called It's Not Enough. I saw I think that they had five top 10 ish hits. Two of them were number ones. I think they had two or three number ones. So you can shit on them and say we built the city is the worst song ever. But what I would tell you is that Starship fucks. So a lot of these bands, that's what's also funny. As when you look at these bands that like people say like the worst songs of all time, like where is a list of the worst songs of all time?

Like okay here's something from The Vinyl District which just sounds like a pretentious cockbag universe. The absolute worst 100 songs in rock history. Let's see, Bang the Drum All Day, Todd Rungren, Rock the Casball. Like when you start reading these lists, you know what you're going to find is songs that are downloaded and listened to and everyone knows them. Like Barbie Girl will end up on a lot of these lists. Yeah, it's a piece of shit, but I bet you Barbie Girl has a gabillion streams on Spotify. Actually, you know what? Here's something I agree with. The worst rock song of all time, Imagine by John Lennon. You know what? I take back what I said about the vinyl district.

I'm glad that someone acknowledges that John Lennon sucks and imagines a hokey piece of shit. But what I disagree with is we built this city at number two. It's great. Let's see. Ebony and Ivory by Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder. Do you think I'm sexy Rod Stewart? That's a fucking great song. That's a good fun song. Screw off. Under the Bridge, the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Just called to say I love you Stevie Wonder. Tears in Heaven. That's pretty fair. That song is depressing and awful. It's like, Hey, here's a song about my son falling out of a window

Here we go Dancing in the street the Grateful Dead Every breath you take another terrible song. You know what I tend to kind of agree with this list in a way. Oh Hello by Lionel Rich. See people get hung up though. The song hello is not a bad song I think people get caught up in the fact that the music video is about a teacher basically stalking one of his blind students. I think that's where people get caught up. The song itself is pretty good. Total Eclipse of the Heart. You want to have a trippy time. Go watch the music video for Bonnie Tyler Total Eclipse of the Heart. If like, do it. It is the most trippiest, weird, early music video thing ever. Like,

it's just like, there's like weird like choir boys that are like weird devil choir boys and like, she's an older chick, but it seems like she wants to fuck these like weird like, all boys Catholic school students and it is a trip and there's like laser beams shooting out of people's fucking eyeballs and shit. Go watch the video for Total Eclipse of the Heart. It's a fucking trip. Love is a Battlefield? That's a good song. Dreams Van Halp? Fuck it. The list is broken. There should be no Van Hagar songs on any list of the 100 worst rock songs of all time. This

generic power ballad is a year year after their masterpiece, 1984, marking one of the greatest downfalls in rock music. So I'm glad that 1984 was a masterpiece with all the synthesizers and shit, but Dreams is a bad...Dreams a fucking great song. So baby dry your eyes, shed all the tears you've cried. Oh, that's what dreams are made of. I don't know. This list is sort of right and sort of wrong. I hate this list. I don't like it. But anyway, my point, hip to be square by Huey Lewis is on this list. There is no Huey Lewis

song that is a bad Huey Lewis song. But like I guarantee you like Barbie Girl. How many streams do you think Barbie Girl has? Barbie Girl streams. Let's see. I'd like to know where. Barbie Girl streams on, let's see. How many streams? Barbie Girl has been a global hit and continues to be blah blah blah. I need to know how many streams how many streams does Barbie girl have you know just six hundred twenty nine million on a daily the biggest daily streams it's ever had three hundred nine thousand like pretty pretty significant. Anyway point being in all of this is. Anywho, I don't know.

Aqua, lots of streams. Kid Rock's name is Bob, which we all know, but apparently it's a big story because Trump calls him Bob. Rick Astley's got a billion streams. I'm never going to give you up. And it's a banger. Starship fucks. These are the things we've learned. More to come.