The Josh Innes Show - Who Had The Worst Holly Rowe Take? Part 2: Chris Fowler

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

Chris is in a tough spot because he works directly with Holly Rowe. Therefore, he has to do some super duper White Knighting... Does he take the top spot? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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They don't skip, they stay for hours. They don't move on, they manifest. They're not a demographic group, they're fans. Spotify Advertising. You're among fans. There was also a, what's his name had a take? Where was the, let's see where this dude is. Who's the dude, Chris Fowler?

I didn't hear the Chris Fowler. This is now my new favorite pastime, just watching these videos and breaking them down with you about how pathetic these losers on ESPN are or ex-ESPN people are. But this, I'm actually tickled by this. This is a real hoot. All right, let's see here.

There is no one out there, more dedicated, or committed. no one who works harder in the TV sports business than Holly Row. Okay. Who's questioning this? Who out there with the brain is like, you know who doesn't work hard, Holly Roe? Like you're arguing something that nobody else is arguing. You're making a point that you're fighting people who don't exist. You are straw manning this thing.

Like I'm sure, like, look, as I've said, I think sideline reporters are a giant waste of time. And I stand by that. Like, what are you doing? Like, I don't think you do anything. Women, doesn't matter. I don't think you do anything. But like, like, no one will fight. Like, what exactly happened to Holly Row?

Like, what happened to Holly Row? She didn't get fired. She's not getting severely criticized by a bunch of people. She's become just this sympathetic figure because some coach wanted to go celebrate instead of talking with her. And because some Dingus made an AI video. She is a pros pro.

She is deeply committed to all of the sports that she covers, and there's a lot of them, and to those who participate in those sports. She has done so much for so many, you have no idea. And I am so proud to call her a colleague on ABC Saturday Night Football. Okay. Nobody gives a fuck. I don't understand. Like, what is this? As a person, she's kind.

considerate, tough as hell, and resilient. Are you, like, writing her dating profile? Like, it's like, are you talking to, like, hey, I was wondering if maybe you could, you know, talk to this person over there for me and kind of talk me up a little bit before I go, you know, try to hit on them. If you don't know enough about Holly's career, this might be an opportunity to learn more

because the ugliness of this week should never be what people think of when Holly Rose's name comes up. And no, what, when Holly Rose's name comes up. name comes up, I will think of, honest to God, not much, because I don't think of Holly Row. I don't think of you at all. I don't care, but okay. But this is where we are

in 2026, that some person, some human being out there uses a guy to create a video depicting violence against someone so respected and so beloved. Oh my God. I can't.

I can't with these people. Guys, it's a fucking stupid video. somebody got smacked around on the fucking video. You know what happens when you watch What's Love Got to Do With It? Lawrence Fishburn, playing Ike Turner, you know, knocks around Tina Turner. Like, it's a stupid video. And you guys have made it a far bigger deal than it needs to be. You guys have taken a stupid AI video that somebody created and you've turned it into the fucking Suprooter film.

You people are insane. You are just fucking wackos. violence against someone so respected and so beloved. Now, if it was someone not so respected and so beloved, if it would have been like Tom Rinaldi or something, would my man be out there posting videos about Tom Rinaldi getting slapped around? And some percentage of a people at a press conference who are colleagues of Hollis and should look up to her, laugh about it.

Arch Manning has apologized for his unfortunate reaction. His unfortunate reaction. He fucking likes it. laughed at the thing. And then what I love about it is they've, they've all decided part of this, this clique of people, they've decided that Arch Manning can be forgiven because he's 22. Now, if he were 23, I don't know if we could do that. I don't know if he were 24, we couldn't forgive him. But he's 22, so we can forgive Arch Manning for this. But what we can't do, like, they've basically found, like, the culprit, like they can find the person that they can white

night for this Holly Row and not have to shit on Arch Manning. So they found the person, like, the person laughing is now the evil human. She offered grace. What was said between them stays between them. I wonder what she said. Like did she meet up with him and go like, hey, fuck you, you supporter of AI women beaters? They're useful. They're important.

But as Matthew McConaughey, Texas legend, told me a long time ago, there's a proverb that says, humble brag. You're like, hey, I know Matthew. McConnor. Just be sorry, be better. There is so much ugliness out there. When confronted with it, all of us.

All of us can do better. Okay. I still think the Linda Cone one is worse, because hers is just stupid. Like, this is just sanctimonious bullshit here. This is holier than now sanctimonious.

There's so much ugliness than the world. Shit. I know Matthew McConaughey, and he read a Bible verse to me once, and this is what I think of this. This is just sanctimonious drivel. The Linda Cohn one's probably the worst, although I haven't seen the full rich eyes in Holly Row video. I mean, look, what's going to piss me off is now this is all that's going to pop up in my feed forever.

But I'm doing this for you special, because I love you. Someone has to do it. Someone has to find these videos for us all to make fun of. Let's see if there's And Rich Eisen's just the most Smarmy. Oh wait. There's a Dan Lebitard one. Oh boy. Okay. Let's go.

Manning has now apologized. I wonder if anyone remembers that Peyton Manning's first controversy was a... Oh boy. I didn't know that we were going to get one of these. That Peyton Manning like, you know, like moon somebody or something. See in college because he mooned a trainer. And Peyton Manning's initial controversy

that ever happened to him, and he never had very many more after that, was he mooned a female trainer in the Tennessee locker room. Now, Archmanning has apologized for thinking it was funny, an AI video that had his coach, Sarkesian, Steve Sarkesian, hitting Holly Row. What are the interesting parts of this story to you, if any, Jessica? And welcome. It's not... Well, Jay, let me tell you something. There's a lot of white privilege involved in this. To see you. Dan, the thing about this whole saga that no one seems to really be talking about is the fact that... Dan, the whole thing in this whole saga is I really want to kind of go back to Lindsay Clancy for a second.

She's a hero. I have Googled this. My understanding is that the law is very behind when it comes to this technology and what you're able to do with it. But being able to make a video of a real person being slapped in the face and distributing it on the internet, How is that allowed? I don't understand that. I understand that. Okay, we're getting closer.

Again, I still think Linda Cone's the dumbest. Her take is the dumbest. But now it's how are we allowed to distribute video of a real person? Huh. Okay, we're getting closer. In this country, we have freedom of speech and freedom of expression. But I want to be very clear. We have freedom of speech and freedom of expression,

except if it's something that I disagree with, then I'm outraged. Using this technology to show violence against a woman, a real person, that is the thing that is so scummy that someone went online and used... Do you guys not see the internet? Like, just look around. There's tons of shit of real people like getting just beaten up on the internet with AI shit. I'm not telling you it's the most innovative shit or the most interesting shit ever, but it's there. But now because it's Holly Row, it's the most offensive shit you've ever seen. Some AI tool to create this about one of the most just highly regard. So again, now we do this thing about Holly Rojas. She's like the greatest fucking sideline reporter ever. People in the sports media industry, someone that is, in fact, a colleague of the Mannings because she works for ESPN. They have a show on ESPN during Monday night football.

It is really disgusting that this exists and that you can make videos of people and post them online doing things that are threatening and violent. threatening and violent. Archmanning is now apollo. That was an exciting take there. Anyway, I want to find the rich eyes in one here. Let's see. This person is Brandon is not a fan of Holly Row. Let's see this one.

I think Sark has fewer. So this is the guy from bar stool. I think Sark has fewer personal skills than anybody in a CEO position should ever have. think he just doesn't know how to treat people or act with people. I think Sark has no personal skills whatsoever. That being said, I've never liked Holly Row, so I liked it. Oh, never liked Holly Row. So what else we got?

Why don't you like Holly Row? Huh. 20 years ago, my favorite announcer, my favorite play-by-play announcer, Ron Franklin, got fired by ESP 1 because during a broadcast, he was throwing it down to the field, and he called Holly Row either Honey or Sweetie. and he got fired. And I've always blamed Holly Row for that.

There was a second Ron Franklin reporter incident, by the way, that led to his fire. Oh, was it, okay. Well, then there you go. What was that one, Teage? He called another reporter, sweet baby.

Okay. And then called her an asshole. Oh. Wait, is that five years after? The Holly Roe incident? Yes. So he didn't get fired for that. Oh, I guess he did.

All right, so there's that. Let's see. Anyway, the internet, it's loaded with people's reactions to shit. I still put the Linda Cohn one at the top. The Linda Cohn one I still think is my favorite because Arch Manning, who's 22? You know, by the way, he's 22. Don't know if you guys knew this about Arch Manning. He's 22.

Like, he laughed at the damn thing. Apparently at 22, you're allowed, like, in their little world here, at 22, It's okay to laugh at fake AI-generated domestic violence. That's totally fine. But what's not acceptable is when you're a grown man that blows off a sideline interview, now you've gone too fucking far. Now we need to really dig in on this and tell you how terrible of a human this person is. Because this person blew off a sideline interview.

How fucking dare you? How dare you, Steve Sarkesian?