The Josh Innes Show - Winter Storm Blair Day 2 (Part 2)
Episode Date: January 6, 2025The Week 18 afternoon games have wrapped up and we know most of the playoff matchups. I take a stab at guessing the first round playoff game betting lines. I'm still enraged over the Saints basically ...giving Mike Evans $3 Million bucks. Also, screw the Chiefs for completely no showing against Denver, thus costing us the chance to see Joe Burrow in the playoffs. Is Aaron Rodgers done? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All righty, everybody. The afternoon games are wrapping up.
I mean, they're all over. There's nothing that's up for grabs.
We have the Vikings and Lions coming up later.
Oh, what time is it right now? It's about 6.32 in the p.m. on this snowy day in St. Louis. As we just sit back and, you know, just wait for it to start snowing again.
And, well, we got the matchups pretty much set in the playoffs.
So the AFC is set, obviously, because there's only one game left,
and it's an NFC game tonight.
So either the Lions or Vikings will have a bye,
and either the Lions or the Vikings will play the Rams is how it will go.
In L.A., yep.
All right.
So, and when you're listening to this, we'll already know all of these things,
but it doesn't fucking matter.
Who fucking cares?
So let's look at these matchups then.
Let's go.
You've got, well, let's start with the Texans.
So the Texans are going to face the Chargers.
You would have much rather the Texans face the Steelers.
I actually saw John Granato tweet something that was funny.
He said, well, the good thing about the Texans playing the Chargers at home
is that it'll be the one matchup they're guaranteed to have more of their own fans in the stands.
That's fair.
That's a good point, John.
Well played, John Granato. you tickle me with your tweets but it's true uh the steelers oh god if it
were if the steelers would have been coming to nrg it would have been all steelers terrible towels
everywhere it would have been and tj watt and then like jj watt would have been there like what does
he do does he cheer for the texans does he cheer for his brother what do you do but so I'm glad we avoided that although I feel like we could have probably
beat the Steelers I don't know about the Chargers and the homeboy here just busted a touchdown
that'll be the final touchdown scored of the season assuming he does score and he does so that
should be the final I guess the final of the afternoon games it won't be the final of the
regular season because there is still one more game to go. But yeah, absolutely.
As far as the Texans go,
you would much rather the...
What did you do? I put my feet down to put my
beer down and the computer was right there.
Yep, still recording, but
you never know what's going to happen. Things might change.
But yeah, so
I think the Texans are going to
lose. I love this...
Well, I'll guess.
I guess I would imagine that some of the Lions are already out.
You let me know if the Lions are out, and I'll try to guess them.
But, yeah, so I would say that, like, I see all these people saying things like,
guys, the Texans, like, I think Bill Cowher said it.
He goes, well, the good thing is the Texans were able to find their mojo and that first drive against the uh against uh the Titans it's the fucking
Titans they have three wins you march down the field and scored against the Titans who gives a
fuck they have a second ranked defense or some such shit anyway the Lions are out all right well
give me the matchup and I'll tell you what I think the Lions gonna be this is a fun game the Packers
at the Eagles the Eagles are gonna be favored by like well well all well I guess the line's going to be. This is a fun game. The Packers at the Eagles.
The Eagles are going to be favored by like,
well, I guess the status of Jordan Love is a big question,
and Christian Watson.
Have they said anything about Christian Watson?
It looks like Watson's pretty fucked, but they believe that Love could have come back today.
Okay.
I'm going to say, and it's at Philadelphia,
I'm going to say that you would think that because the Eagles won so many games
and because the Eagles are at home, they'd be favored by a lot.
To me, this is, again, when you look at situations like this,
if the Eagles can have a lead and can work on the clock and run the ball,
the Eagles are a very good team.
I don't know what the Eagles are going to do if they're trailing.
We don't know the health status currently of Jalen Hurts as well.
I'm going to say Green Bay on the road is an underdog.
And I'm going to say the Eagles are favored by a field goal or three and a half.
Three and a half.
I'm a G.
I don't know.
I haven't seen any of these.
So, but like, I think they could lose that for all the things the Eagles have done.
They've beaten a lot of shitty teams.
That's fair.
They play in a really shitty division for the most part, as they do most years. So I think you're looking at a situation with the
Eagles where a lot of their success has been overinflated based on who they've played.
If they're able to run the ball, though, and can control the clock and can run it down at the end
of the game, I think they'll win. But I can see a situation where if it becomes a game where the two quarterbacks have to win it for you i would take jordan love to win a playoff
game over jalen hurts any day who balanced them last year was a baker oh yeah baker did they beat
the shit out of it just what yeah the link right uh yeah was it well no it had no number one seed
last year well i know that tampa won the division last year so the bucks would have had a home playoff game at some point last year so might have been the number one with the
bye well the Eagles tailed off no the Eagles tailed off at the end of the year last year
remember they were the Eagles were great and then the Eagles sucked towards the end of the year and
then they ended up playing uh but I'm trying to think of who the hell else in that division would
have had a home field advantage in that and I Did the Cowboys go to the playoffs last year?
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No, okay, so the Eagles, you're right, because they collapsed.
They went to Tampa and lost 32-9.
There you go.
And they got blasted in that game so now
they're at home against uh a Packer dude the Packers can beat them like it's it's not ridiculous
to think they could uh there really isn't a juggernaut that's out there when you look at
the matchups these are all matchups of teams that you could see a scenario where the the better team
or the favorite team could lose it's not like there's one team out there that's a a machine what was the stat today that uh tanner or tyler tanner mckee tanner mckee like threw for
the most first yard passing yards like all season he threw i've had a lot of beer but also i haven't
been able to talk today at all like i've messed up so much shit like you bit your tongue the other
day and there was a gigantic scab on it uh anyway tanner mckee threw for the most
first half passing yards all season for the eagles yeah so i think what that says is he should be
playing the playoff game uh but anyway so do i i'm distracted sorry get the phone back out so we can
look at some of these lines uh all right let me play a couple commercials here and then we will
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So we were dead on accurate on the Eagles and Packers.
Give me the next game that already has a line.
The Chargers at the Texans.
This is going to be damn near pick-em.
So being at home gives you a three-point edge.
I think the Chargers are four to five points better than the Texans.
I'm going to say Chargers minus two.
Minus two and a half.
Chargers are the favorite.
And I think they're going to win.
I hope they don't, but I think they're going to win.
I just think they're a better team.
I think they're, like, I just don't know what weapons that they have
that the Texans are going to stop, particularly Ladd McConkie,
who's a beast.
We'll see.
It's not like they have a true home field advantage.
The home field advantage is none-existent in Houston.
Everybody knows that.
What was the thing you were telling me the other day
that they surveyed all players and said,
which is the toughest home field advantage in the NFL?
And none of the AFC South teams got one vote at all.
One vote from the players.
Not one.
Like, oh, we went to Tennessee.
Boy, that was a tough one.
I'll say this, though.
It was loud as shit when we went to Indian. Boy, that was a tough one. I'll say this, though. It was loud as shit when we went to Indianapolis.
That seems like a tough place, at least tougher than Houston or Jacksonville or Tennessee.
And Tennessee is going to get even weaker as a crowd because they're moving into this glorious new stadium.
These glorious new stadiums don't get loud.
They're just giant malls.
So anyway, what's the next matchup?
The next one is the stealers at
the ravens ravens minus six and a half eight and a half god damn like it's amazing to think of where
the stealers were potentially without zay flowers oh no i wouldn't even say potentially i'd say he's
out just based on the reaction to everything i'd say he's out um but they also have lamar and they
also have the king and they also have the
king and the steelers have been a joke in the last week and a half week and a half month and a half
or so it was looking like you i mean you were talking comeback player of the year for rusty
potentially you're talking this dude has changed his life and now the last five or six games they've
been a joke uh i don't trust george pickens with anything the guy's a loser i think they're going
to go out there and i think they're going to get smoked by the Ravens.
For what it's worth, I think, oh, no, not the last one.
The Steelers' last win may have been against the Ravens,
but they did beat the Browns in there.
But they did beat, and that's another factor.
I mean, the Steelers beat the Ravens this season,
so the Ravens are like, we're not fucking with you again.
Oh, no, I think the Ravens are going to beat the shit out of them.
I think they're donezo.
They're not really a threat offensively. Their defense really hasn't been that good either. I think they'res are going to beat the shit out of them. I think they're donezo. They're not really a threat offensively.
Their defense really hasn't been that good either.
I think they're going to get smoked.
All right, what's the next matchup?
Next matchup is the Commanders at the Buccaneers.
So if being at home gives you the three points,
I mean, to me, this is damn near a toss-up.
I'm going to say Tampa, one and a half minus three oh
really so it's straight up just the home field advantage there so minus three uh dude I think
Washington can win that fuck Tampa fuck Mike Evans and also fuck the loser ass Saints for
their bullshit the Saints should be ashamed of themselves for essentially giving Mike Evans this bullshit thousand yards and giving him this bullshit $3 million. Screw the Saints.
That's embarrassing what you did. A real coach, a real group of players would have gone out there
and you know what they would have said? We're going to put eight dudes. We're going to put
everybody on Mike Evans just to guarantee this son of a bitch doesn't get $3 million on us,
doesn't get a thousand yards on us. Instead instead nobody was even checking the guy and he picks up eight yards shame on the saints you're
a clown organization i hope that tampa goes out gets their dick knocked off by jd5 the heisman
trophy winner screw right in the bunghole screw mike evans screw tampa screw baker screw todd
bowls screw the whole goddamn organization the Saints are a joke
and I hate them
when we were talking
about this earlier
when like he
we watched when he got that
right
ended up I took him for 90
you took him for 94 and a half
yeah so you needed
one more yard
this is the second time
in like three weeks
Mike Evans have cost me
a parlay by one yard
so for even more reason
go fuck yourself Mike
and then the guy said
by the way
I would like
hold on
I would like a fucking cut of that.
How much did he make?
Three million.
Well, I would like $20.
Yes, that's all Jilly wants.
I could do 14 parlays for her.
Mike Evans, if you would give me $20, I feel like that would be some good PR.
Yeah, it would.
We're helping out some degenerate gambling girl that bets a dollar and a half per parlay.
Send her $20.
Venmo her $20. Mike20. Venmo her $20.
Oh, my heavens.
Venmo me $20.
You know what he should be doing?
He should be Venmoing like 20 grand to every member of the Saints defense who just let him fucking make a play.
You shameful cunts.
Fuck the Saints.
You are shameful, shameful, shameful, and I hate you.
Not you, Ross.
You're fine.
You're fine.
I'm just kidding.
Ross, it's okay, buddy. It's okay. I don't. Not you, Ross. You're fine. You're fine. I'm just getting Ross. It's
okay, buddy. It's okay. I don't know where you came from. Maybe you had an angry degenerate
gambler radio host dad before and you're having flashbacks. I don't know, but he gave some sugar.
He's probably afraid because he knows I'm going off on the saints right now. And you don't want
no part of that. Do you Ross? Especially with this loser. My, I just, I can't, I struggle with
this Ross and I'll tell you why I struggle. struggle because like the Saints back in my day the Saints and the Bucks and the Saints
and the Falcons would fight each other and like was it Mike Evans that punched homeboy in like
the back of the head yeah like these guys are losers you hate them and you're trying to keep
them out of the playoffs and if they're gonna beat you you might as well at least keep them
from going out and and making three million on you just giving the guy a thousand
yards and oh by the way homeboy celebrated like he just set the all-time record for home runs or
something hell mark mcguire didn't celebrate as hard when he hit 70 what three million dollars
that's fine but when mcguire hit a 60 second home run he didn't celebrate as hard as mike evans did for tying a record for thousand
yard receiving seasons it's bogus it's bullshit mike evans can pound sand and the saints are a
joke of an organization that's about to hire matt naggy fuck you saints and i hate all of you
i didn't even put the microphone in my face so nobody can hear me i was saying do you want to do the last line guessing before I pee?
Well, okay.
Let's do the last line guessing then.
The Broncos at the Bills.
The Broncos at the Bills.
Oh, the Bills are going to...
Bills...
Ten and a half.
Seven and a half.
Really?
I don't think the Bills are going to beat the shit.
Speaking of people who can go fuck themselves,
I got a whole list involved in this Denver game.
First of all, the Chiefs.
I understand why you didn't play your quarterback.
I respect all that.
I get it.
I'm not asking you to go out there and get your players hurt.
Totally get it.
However, Carson Wentz is an L7 weenie, an absolute loser. You couldn't have played any
better than you played today. You're a dope. And why am I angry about this? I'm angry about this
because we wanted to see Joe Burrow. We want to see the best players in the playoffs. We want to
see elite players. We want to see studs. We want to see Jamar. We want to see Joe. We want to see
Chase Brown. We want to see T Higgins. We want to see Trey Hendrickson, former New Orleans Saint.
We want to see great players in big situations. Instead, because of the joke that the Bengals
were for the first half of the season, now we have to go, and because Kansas City screwed us
by playing nobody, now we have to watch the Broncos. I'll tell you who can screw off.
Sean Payton, who abandoned my New Orleans Saints when times got tough.
He abandoned the Saints when Drew Brees hung it up. He's a coward and he ran away. And then he
ran away and now he's in the playoffs. And not only did he screw me there, he screwed me in the
world of wanting to get Joe Burrow into the playoffs as well. Sean Payton, you're a monster.
You're fat. You've gained a lot of weight. You have a fat face, and your glasses don't fit your face well.
I hate you, and I hope you get your asses kicked.
I hope you get your asses handed to you like you got your asses handed to you
in the playoffs all those years with the Saints.
Like when we were an 11-win team, had to go on the road and face Seattle
and lost to a 7-9 Seattle.
Or like when we lost to Alex Smith in the playoffs in 2011 or like when we lost to
Kirk Cousins in the playoffs or like when we lost to fucking Case Keenum in the playoffs Sean
go get your dick knocked off by the Bills you schmuck so would it be better for you if like
the Bills just beat the shit out of them or would it be funnier if like the Broncos look like they're
gonna win but then like Josh Allen does something and they lose last second?
Oh, you mean like when Sean Payton thought we were going to win the game
in Minnesota and started doing the skull thing,
only to see the Minnesota miracle happen?
Oh, I think that'd be fun too.
But really, I don't want Sean to have any joy.
I want Buffalo at home to pecker slap the Broncos.
And people would say, well, Josh, that's your coach, and he won you a Super Bowl,
and he was there for like 20 years.
How can you hate him?
Oh, I'll love the guy in five years when he's no longer a coach
or ten years when he's no longer a coach.
But as a fan, I have the right to sit here and hate the fact that my football team
is crappy in five and 12, and this guy's run off to a new family.
I feel abandoned is what I feel.
He ran off to a new family, and he's is what I feel. He ran off to a new family
and he's got prettier kids
and he's got a prettier wife
and now I'm stuck in our shitty situation.
So no, sir, I will not root and support for Sean Payton.
Not one little iota.
I hope he gets his ass kicked.
And really, I hope the Chiefs get their ass kicked
for playing cowardly football today against Denver.
How do you let your ass just get worked that way?
That said, I might put a big bet on the Chiefs to make it to the Super Bowl.
Because let's be real about that.
If we're just being honest about what the situation here is, if we're just shooting you straight.
Yeah, the only one that could have stopped them was Joe Burrow.
But here we are.
Yeah, correct.
You know what we're dealing with here, Ross?
We're dealing with having to watch Josh Allen try to knock the Chiefs out.
Okie dokie. Lamar Jackson. Yeah, like Lamar is going to take Mahomes out. I mean, it's just not
going to happen. Lamar, you give one of those two guys the MVP all you want. MVP Lamar, MVP Josh
Allen, it doesn't matter. There's nobody on the planet that's going to go against the Chiefs if
the Chiefs are matched up against those teams. And the fun thing is, the Chiefs are not very good.
They're a 15-2 team, and you look at them and you go,
how do you say they're not very good?
They very well could be a team that has six losses.
But when it comes to the playoffs,
are you really going to take Josh Allen to go to Arrowhead and win?
No, you're not.
Why?
Because he's Josh Allen and the other guy is Patrick Mahomes.
Are you going to take Lamar and
the boys to go and beat Patrick Mahomes at Arrowhead in the playoffs no you're not nobody
is because it's not going to happen oh shit man so I think it's plus 155 just for the Chiefs to
get to the Super Bowl I might put a large bet on them just to get to the Super Bowl.
Oh, wow, look at them.
They doused Mike.
Oh, this is great.
They got Mike Evans in the locker room.
They, like, poured Gatorade on him.
Like, congrats, dude.
You averaged 64 yards a game for 11 straight seasons.
You're a rock star.
Fucking Saints.
Honestly, the Saints should have gone out there and put four dudes on Mike Evans.
Anybody else, because they embarrassed you.
Anybody else would have taken a knee because they were desperate to get their boy this mythical record that's tied, by the way.
He didn't even set the record.
He tied a record.
And good for him.
He made $3 million.
I don't blame Tampa for doing it.
I don't blame Tampa for going out and trying to do it.
I respect them because a lot of coaches might have said, take a knee. We're not going to get our guy $3 million. So I respect it. I don't blame Tampa for going out and trying to do it. I respect them because a lot of coaches might've said, take any, we're not going to get our guy a 3 million. So I respect
it. What I don't respect is the saints, not putting four dudes on the guy and saying, you
want to show us up, you know, like in the rookie of the year, you want to show me up Henry. Well,
you know what you got to do? You got to put a punch on somebody's skull is what you got to do
in a situation like that. And the saints were cowards about it. Cowards, cowards, cowards. You should have gotten up there and literally every single
player you could have put on him, you should have put on him. There's no way I'm letting some dude
show me up in a five and 12 season where I'm getting my ass kicked every week. There's no
way I'm letting this guy who I've hated for a decade, a guy who's had wars back when our team
was good, a guy that punched our players. There's no way I'm letting that son of a bitch go out
and do what they were going to do.
Anybody else?
You want to throw it, Baker?
Cool, throw it to McMillan, throw it to Bucky Irving.
I don't care who you throw it to.
This asshole's not hitting his number.
He's not getting his bonus.
He's not setting records, not against us.
But instead, the Saints gave the dude like seven yards a cushion
as if to say, here, sir, have some more.
Have some more.
We have no fucking pride.
We're the New Orleans Saints.
Son of a bitch.
Couldn't they give him one more yard?
Yeah.
Well, we're at it.
It's disheartening.
It's disheartening.
And then you read reports, Saints eyeing Matt Nagy. I'm eyeing a gun
in my mouth. That's what I'm eyeing.
As a Saints fan, I'm eyeing a bat
to the head. Would you rather Matt
Nagy or Rizzy?
I might take Rizzy.
I want neither one
of them. I'd like them to go get somebody that's
fun and exciting and change things, but they've got the same
shitty GM. They're not changing anything.
What about Gruden?
Honestly, I would take Gruden any day over Matt Nagy at this point.
I have another random question, not Saints related.
So we were talking about this earlier, like Aaron Rodgers,
is this his last game?
He said if there's a perfect situation, he would do it.
What is like, who would need him?
I sat there trying to figure this out.
Well, we won't know also until a team hires a coach
and they think that they can win with that coach
and they go sign a bunch of players.
What if New England, because they fired Gerard Mayo,
they said, peace out, chief.
So my guess is they're going to hire Vrabel, right?
It just makes too much sense.
My guess is they've already hired Vrabel.
My guess is Vrabel got hired a month ago.
He changed his profile picture today to him playing as the Patriots.
Yeah, like, listen.
I think, did we mention this earlier?
I think Gerard Mayo, Lovey Smith did.
He knew he was out.
He's like, fuck you.
You're not getting the number one draft pick on my watch.
Yeah.
And that took them from number one to, like, what are they, number four or five?
No, totally.
I get it.
So I think what you're looking at, I wouldn't doubt that they've had,
it wouldn't shock me if Vrabel got hired, like, october or something like november like it just makes sense uh the
patriot all he ever does is blows the patriot shit so like it makes sense for him to be the
coach of the patriot so like i don't see a scenario where somebody else is going to be
the coach of the patriots drake may do they want to bring aaron rogers in i don't know well no but
that wasn't my point but like my point started point. But my point is that could be a situation where maybe.
The thing is, Aaron Rodgers fucking sucks.
I don't know why anybody would want Aaron Rodgers because he blows.
That's what I'm saying.
So do you think that's his last game?
Do the Giants go get him?
Switch teams?
No.
God, watching this Mike Evans celebration pisses me off.
You would have thought that this dude,
this dude is literally just celebrating because he made $3 million.
It's not celebrating because, like, you're some sort of record holder.
Like, bro, like, they're celebrating this guy,
like he's the all-time passing yardage leader.
He's, like, some all-time leader.
He just had 11 consecutive seasons of 1,000 yards.
I can't.
I cannot.
I cannot.
And at this point, I don't know what the right team is for Aaron Rodgers because I don't think Aaron Rodgers is any good. I also don't think it's
his last game. I don't think it is, but maybe it is. We've been watching this Aaron Rodgers
documentary. Maybe he's just a wild dude. Maybe he just hangs it up. I don't know.
That said, we'll do another pod, I guess, after the, uh, the Sunday night football
game.
I got a couple of bets going in that one.
I'm just, I'm disheartened.
I can't, I, this Mike Evans shit is just, I'm enraged.
But honestly, like it would not have bothered you if he got to the 94 and a half.
It wouldn't bother.
It wouldn't have bothered me if it would have happened and it wouldn't have let him go for
10 there or 12 or whatever you needed. It would have bothered me, but it would have bothered you if it would have happened. The Saints would have let him go for 10 there or 12 or whatever you needed.
It would have bothered me.
But it would have bothered me.
Because you would have won.
I would have won, but it would have bothered me less.
Now, if he would have gone for like 150 today and we lost by 30,
it wouldn't have bothered me as much.
But the fact is, he still had to get to this milestone on the last play of the game
after they had already won the game.
And the Saints basically let him have it.
And that's what pissed me off about it. If Mike Evans would have gone out today and had 100 yards in the first quarter
Tampa wins that game 35 to 3 and it's never a ball game fine but the Saints should have could
have would have won that game to knock them out of the playoffs although I guess Carolina ended
up winning so it wouldn't matter but like they could have knocked them out of the playoffs
and they could have kept this dude from getting this record and getting us $3 million. That should be what dudes aspire
to do. Scott Shanley, a former linebacker
for the Saints, tweeted like, back in my day
we wouldn't have let a guy do that. We would have put as many
dudes on him as possible to try to stop him. That's
what you should try to do. It's embarrassing
that they let that happen.
Anyway, we will do another one of
these. The snow is going to start coming down again here
soon.
Give Ross his flowers.
He ran out there and pee and pooped on his
own there. Yeah, he finally decided
he had to go. He braved the elements.
Alright, more to come.