The Josh Innes Show - Wrestlemania

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

My wife really enjoys wrestling so I was forced into watching Wrestemania 41. I don't mind it. I just don't really care. That said, the much anticipated Sunday main event was a total dud. Also, I don't hate wrestling fans...but I really hate the ones who think they are in the business when they are not in the business. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It was all right. It wasn't great or anything like that. I don't follow it, so it's hard for me to kind of know what's going on, but half of WrestleMania is just them resetting everything. Like, if intros for these dudes and these gals like i would it's kind of like when you watch rocky four and you find out that over two-thirds of the movie is just montages you know that's kind of what you get when you watch a wrestling premium live event is the vast majority of it is intros and resetting everything that's happened on uh the the previous shows to get you ready for this in case you hadn't watched um it was fine like i don't feel like the crowd was that great maybe vegas just isn't a good crowd town for that you

know which i think is very possible i think there are certain places that are probably better for wrestling events because the kind of cities they are like a philadelphia is probably a great wrestling town because a it's still real to them damn it and b they just they're just they they take pride it's a weird thing to take pride in but the philly people take pride in them being considered the best fans for certain things right so I think they would take pride in being obnoxious and loud and really into it but the point of this is like when big things happen you're supposed to really be able to feed off of the crowd and I didn't really get that vibe when big things happen maybe I'm wrong maybe you watched it and thought

something else and you're like oh that was uh interesting and i had liked it and i think the crowd was really into it i didn't really find that the crowd was really into the matches themselves all that much and it truly may just have been a situation where it was a city thing maybe the the vegas isn't a great wrestling town oh but there's a great documentary on peacock if you haven't watched it. It's about the first time WrestleMania was in Vegas back in the early 90s at Caesars Palace. And it's actually a really good documentary. I enjoyed it. So you should John Cena is on his farewell tour. Speaking of John Cena, if you've not watched a movie called Ricky Stanecki on Amazon Prime, it's not a great movie, but John Cena's got a couple of scenes, really just one scene in particular that's fucking hysterical that I rewind and laugh my balls off all the time. If you've not watched Ricky Stanecki, don't come to me tomorrow if you

watch it and bitch and say i watch this because you said to watch it and it's not funny it really isn't that funny of a movie it's it's a zach efron movie all of his movies that are comedies are not funny it's just it's how it works but um it's got um basically they have to use John Cena as like a fake friend for some reason. I forgot why they have to treat him like he's their friend. It's like to avoid getting into trouble with their wives or some shit. I forgot how the whole thing plays out. And his job before they find him, he's a performer in Vegas in like a dingy little place where he turns songs like classic songs into songs about masturbating and that's the scene in the movie that's about 40 seconds if that and i laugh my balls off and rewind it every time otherwise i could not tell

you one memorable thing that happened in that movie and that's most of these amazon movies like i try to watch them and i'm like hey this should be funny and then it's not like i watched the um i don't know if this was amazon or where this one was but i watched the will ferrell movie with uh reese witherspoon i like i only laughed whenever he would like say fuck like i think that's where things have gone south for will ferrell is the like you know the only time i laugh is like when he's like fake angry like if you've watched the um the the commercials for the the that he's in with paypal and he's doing the parody of everywhere by fleetwood mac and i want to pay with you everywhere i mean you had to have seen it it airs everywhere

and there's one point where he's like trying to buy lemonade from a kid and he goes like you know this isn't even fresh squeezed logan and like that's funny or at one point in this movie he says like the fuck you are so like what the fuck and like you laugh at that and it's like but everything else is really not good don't know how i went down oh john cena is how i got here real letdown in the main event of WrestleMania. But we'll talk some more here. Let me play a couple commercials. All right, if you're ready to win some real cash during the basketball playoffs, you got to check out Pick 6 from DraftKings.

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You know what I'm saying? If you dig it, do it, man. You know, if you really dig it, do it twice. Like if it's something you enjoy, I'm not going to judge you. Like my favorite band is Night Ranger. I've seen Night Ranger more than I've seen any other artist. After that, I've probably seen Cher the second most times. I'm not going to judge you for what you find entertaining unless like you find kiddie porn or jelly roll entertaining. If you find those two things entertaining, I'll judge you. But outside of that, I'm not going to judge you if you like wrestling my wife likes wrestling my mom likes wrestling her husband liked wrestling my dad my my grandma mom everybody my family they're wrestling people and I grew up watching it so I don't judge you and I really

hate the people that like can't get over like that they they scoff at the idea of wrestling it's just entertainment like I was listening to a radio show this morning and they were all kind of doing the typical like mocking of wrestling. I'm like, it's entertainment. It's no different than if you go to the fucking movies and you're on Rambo 6 and you're invested in that. It's the same shit. Fuck you.

Let these people enjoy what they enjoy. If they like wrestling, they like wrestling. Eat a dick, okay? But the people who are the worst are the wrestling fan people who think they're inside the business because they listen to podcasts and they use the lingo like you're not in the business like if i were a football coach like let me tell you a good example of a sportsy one that really annoys me like when you listen to a a radio show sports radio show

and they're talking about the speed at which the pitcher throws the ball and they refer to it as his velo why can't you just say velocity or just say how fast the fucking pitch is but instead it's like well he's got a velo problem like oh really do you work in baseball no but i play mlb the show and i feel like i'm well versed like i don't like when people who are not in it or haven't been in it use insider jargon for it for anything mind you like i love movies and i like the like learning about the making of movies like that's kind of why I enjoy the Seth Rogen show uh the studio on Apple plus now it's not a great show

like I want it to be great I think it's just fine and then you read all the reviews and it's like this is the funniest shit I've ever seen and I'm like is it it's okay but whatever it's fine I put my Seth Rogen hatred aside to try to enjoy this show. And I like it. It's watchable. It's a show that I'll turn it on. I'll watch it. And it's fine. But every time an episode ends, I'm just kind of like, okay, that's fine. It's nothing memorable. It's nothing that I'm quoting. It's not like watching Larry David where you watch one of those episodes and you're still quoting it for weeks down the road or years down the road. Like this is a show that will be there and then be gone and people will forget about it, mostly because it's on Apple Plus.

And Apple Plus makes the most pretentious shit ever. And most people don't give a shit about what's on Apple Plus. But either way. So you look at that, like I like to learn about insider jargon and how the sausage is made in movies, but like I would never walk around and use industry jargon around people as if I know what I'm talking about, you know, like I'll try to learn, like I'm a sports talk guy my whole life, life. So I try to learn certain things from people. But I'm not going to use the type of...

Again, I went back to the velo example. Velo is just what a pitching coach or a player would talk about. I'd hear people interviewing them and like, hey, what's wrong with your velo? If I were a pitcher, I'd be like, what the fuck do you know about anything? Fuck off, you know, is what I would tell them. But that's how wrestling people are.

Wrestling fanboy types are the people who use insider jargon even though they've never been inside the wrestling business. And that's what annoys me, right? Like, there's a couple of them that really really irk me notably it's when people refer to wrestling as like the company right like you'll hear a wrestler in a match go and i've been out here and i have been putting in hours for this company and blah blah blah and then like the dudes on the internet will then like refer to the people like well you know the company like that's not the company you're not in the company dickhead that's one two is when people refer to the locker room area and the people in it as the boys right people who are in the wrestling world do that like hey the boys in the back like i'll see people ask questions of these podcasts i listen to

wrestling podcasts i listen to one wrestling podcast, actually. And it's 83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff. And honestly, when he talks about current shit, I don't give a fuck. So I fast forward. And then it's mostly the same stories I've already heard. So like, whatever. But I listen to it. And they'll take listener questions or whatever.

And it's like, hey, Eric, how do you think the boys feel about this? And I'm like, who's boys? Like like you don't fucking work there fuck off and then you've also got the wrestling people that like to write about creative that's what they call you creative and like i just i hate people that use jargon and insider shit for shit they really don't know anything about and that's what annoys me about wrestling people and generally speaking when wrestling bitch, I just kind of mock them, right? But I do think it's okay to watch a match and tell people if you were entertained or not, if you thought it was a good match. Where I get annoyed is when people sit around all day and they try to predict what's going to happen. Just let it fucking happen.

Like, that's my issue with wrestling fans. It's like you watch a game or you watch a match or like you spend weeks like here's how I would write it I would set it up to where there's this heel turn and this blah blah blah blah blah blah he's the heel and he's the good boy I'm like just fucking watch it like life was so much better when we weren't all over the internet and like we could just sit there and we turn on wrestling and we go let's see what the fuck happens in wrestling you know it's like like people bitched at me when i was on kc because i would read set lists for shows that were coming

to town in no way in my mind did that come across as some horrible thing but one woman commented on when i got fired there were all these comments and one was yeah he went on the air and spoiled the set list for the stick show and i'm like like, ma'am, who gives a fuck? But for, and I don't look at it as spoiling. I like to tell people what they're in for. Like I want to go into a concert knowing what I'm going to get. Cause that's going to determine really whether or not I'm going to buy fucking tickets or go to that show. If I'm not getting the songs I want to hear from this band, I'm just not going to go.

But there are still some people who just like to go to a show and be surprised by the music. I like to know what I'm getting. I like to know when I can go pee and everything, like where all the breaks are. The problem you run into with that is it does eliminate some of the enjoyment because you know what's coming up. So there's no spontaneity. To a degree, I don't like that. I like it and I don't. And that's kind of how I view wrestling when I watch it is like, like, I don't like I don't want to sit around and predict all the angles. I just want to watch it and be like, that was fun. And like, wow, I'm shocked. But it's 2025 and you really can't do that.

So anyway, main event, it's John Cena. It's his last WrestleMania. Allegedly, it's always someone's last fucking WrestleMania. And then they're back. That's the worst thing about fucking wrestling. it's always someone's last fucking wrestlemania and then they're back that's the worst thing about fucking wrestling it's always someone's last something rick flair's had like 30 last matches and he always comes back like these guys never go away they're addicts for this shit like they just like some bands can retire and then there's some bands who are like on their fifth farewell tour i saw share on her farewell tour you know when that was 2004 i've seen share on four different tours since then like this fair like

it's bullshit right but okay let's suspend disbelief here and let's make believe that this is john cena's final wrestlemania so let's go out with a bang it was really not a very entertaining match i'm not going to talk about the technical aspect of it because I really don't know the technical aspect of it. The only technical thing I feel like I know about wrestling is when I watch women wrestle, they're just exponentially slower and more deliberate than men when I watch it. Maybe that's an unfair thing,

but I feel like they are more choreographed in what they do. They're just not as good athletically. Some of them are pretty good athletes. I'm saying there are no good women athletes. But the men, I think, are able to sell it being real and not choreographed more than the women are. It doesn't mean the women aren't entertaining. I mean, look at Liv Morgan.

I feel like they're starting to show us more crotch shots on the WWE now, and I'm here for it. But anyway, so last match for John john cena and i'm watching this and it's just not that entertaining and then for whatever reason travis scott comes out to like try to spoil the match and like cheat and i'm like why like like and no one gave a shit and universally this match was panned by people like sometimes you'll get people that bitch and you're like why are you bitching about this i think to a man to a fan people bitched about this and we're just like this is fucking terrible like it just was a horrible ending i sat here for two fucking

nights of wrestlemania to see this john cena send off the other part i think and again this is kind of going a little bit deeper i think what's happening in that thing with john Cena is people are having a hard time knowing who the fuck to root for. Like he's a heel, but I think he still has a lot of people rooting for him. He's a bad guy, so they're rooting for him. And then like it's just an indifference. There's a weird indifference in the crowd with the Cody Rhodes and John Cena thing. I just don't think it's very good. I think the turn, the heel thing was good, but it's just kind of like no one knows who to root for,

what to do now. I don't know, it's just kind of a dull thing, and the crowd really wasn't into it. It kind of goes back to a point that we used to talk about, but we've talked about it a lot, like how movies, if you go see a movie with three people in the theater, you're not going to feel that it's as funny as if you saw it with a full house Friday night,

rush hour two crowd laughing their fucking balls off you're like oh this movie was actually pretty funny if you go see a movie with three people on tuesday at noon it's not as funny because you're not getting that same kind of laughter and everything you're not getting like engulfed in the laughter and i think that kind of happened with the rasslin too but But anyway, I thought the main event sucked. I thought it was terrible. I don't know what they're going to do tonight with it, but I thought it was fucking terrible.

Anyway, more to come.