The Journal. - Breakfast Battle: The Cereal industry vs MAHA

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

The Trump administration’s “Make America Healthy Again” agenda has shaken big food companies already reeling from shifting consumer preferences. Cereal giant WK Kellogg, already struggling as Americans move away from cereal, is at the center of many MAHA attacks. WSJ’s Jesse Newman reports on Kellogg's journey from American icon to MAHA target. Allison Pohle hosts.  Further Listening: The FDA Boss on the Agency’s MAHA Makeover Why Coke Isn’t Getting Rid of High-Fructose Corn Syrup Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, everyone, it's Jess. I'm here to say that my colleague Alison Polly is guest hosting today's episode. Enjoy. Like many of us, my colleague Jesse Newman grew up eating cereal, but it wasn't the fun kind. It was mostly all the sort of like dry, boring cardboard stuff. At a certain point, grape nuts entered our lives. compliments of my mother. And, you know, what a way to just ruin a kid's breakfast. What was the cereal you wanted to eat? When we got a treat, some sort of treat, if we had a choice, it was always fruit loops. But these days, like a lot of Americans, grown-up Jesse usually has yogurt or eggs and toast for breakfast. And that shift in breakfast habits across America has been bad news for cereal companies.

and one company in particular. Kellogg is, you know, an American icon. Kellogg, one of America's oldest cereal companies, has struggled in recent years. They're just, like, the behemoth in the cereal aisle. Like, they're the OG of cereal. I mean, they, you know, they invented cornflakes. Nothing gets you growing in the morning like the crisp corn taste of Kellogg's corn flakes.

They've been around for over 100 years. They make fruit loops and frosted flakes and just so many of those cereals that a lot of kids love. Frosted flakes, good. And now they're facing a new problem. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the Secretary of Health and Human Services. He said, look, I'm going to tell the serial companies to take artificial dyes out of their cereals. And he particularly talked about fruit loops. A box of fruit loops from Canada.

from Europe, and it has a completely different group of ingredients that actually colored with vegetable oils, which are safe. Ours are colored with chemical oils, which are very, very dangerous. And so this became one of his central talking points for what would become Maha, the Maha movement. And now other big food companies are watching Kellogg closely, as the company tries to navigate the powerful, make America healthy again movement.

They're just in the spotlight now and being targeted as a source of what's making Americans so sick. So it's just an incredibly fraught time for them with pressure coming from all different corners. Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Alison Polly. It's Thursday, August 28th. Coming up on the show, Kellogg's journey from American icon to Maha Target.

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That's because Kellogg was founded in Battle Creek, Michigan, which is also known as Serial City. Love it. I had some family that's from Battle Creek who I talked to as I was writing this story, and one thing that is for sure is that when Kellogg's factory is producing, you know, there is this scent of toasted grain that sort of wafts around on the wind in Battle Creek. It's definitely cereal city, yes. In the decades that followed, Kellogg's factories made rice Krispies, raisin brand, corn pops, frosted flakes, fruit loops, and some of these. Cereals even had mascots attached to them, like Tucan Sam. We like them, Tucan Sam. Me too.

So Tucan Sam and Tony the Tiger that certain generations of American kids grew up with as Saturday morning cartoons. So the mascots of these brands were just a part of people's lives. Oh, hi. I'm Tony the Tiger. Got my one-man band here to help tell you about these great Kellogg's Sugar Frost and Flakes. The marketing worked. Kellogg's cereals infiltrated seemingly every American household.

For decades, cereal was convenient, cheap, and available everywhere. It was also seen as nutritious at a time when the U.S. government's food pyramid suggested six to 11 servings of carbohydrates a day. But then... More recently, I would say, over the past decade or so, it's been pretty well accepted that cereal is just in long-term, decline. And cereal consumption has really fallen off. A lot of families now perceive cereal as there's a lot of cereal that is heavily sweetened. It's just full of sugar. And a lot of families

are perceiving it more as sort of a treat rather than a nutritious breakfast. So what kinds of foods are people turning to instead? There are breakfast burritos and eggs and yogurt. So it's just our palettes have really diversified and are looking for different things when it comes. to breakfast. And in fact, people are, a lot of families are even seeking even more convenience. So, you know, a lot of people will just grab, like, a granola bar or a protein bar for breakfast now. Since 2017, the percentage of U.S. adults who eat heavily sweetened cold cereal went from 43% down to 31%, which hasn't been great for Kellogg. But for decades, the company had diversified out of the cereal aisle.

and had a whole other snack side of the business. And eventually, the snacks outperformed the cereal side. Over the years, it really expanded. And Kellogg, as the company, started selling all kinds of snacks. So they started selling Pringles. Pringles sour cream and onion. And cheese-its. We like eating cheese-its.

Great cheese taste in every bite. And Pop-Tarts. Part of your complete breakfast. New Wildberry Pop-Tarts. You may want to buy. So it wasn't just. a cereal company. And in fact, over time, the snacks business became the much more sort of exciting part of Kellogg's business. It was faster growing. Zero had this, was, you know,

in decline, but snacks were all the rage. Like, everybody is just snacking all day long. Yep. And so in 2022, Kellogg announced that they were going to split. Kellogg eventually turned into two different companies, a serial business called WK Kellogg and a snack company called Kellanova. Essentially, they were just both going to be able to operate independently and have the focus that they needed in order to keep snacks growing and try to revive cereal sales. And folks in the market saw that as putting a for-sale sign on what was renamed W.K. Kellogg, so the cereal business, which was W.K. Kellogg. W.K. Kellogg, the standalone cereal company, tried to change with the times. It released a high-protein vegan cereal called Eat Your Mouth Off in 2024.

It also collaborated with a sports nutrition brand and launched a Fruit Loop-flavored protein shake. But nothing really broke through. And that was all before the Maha movement. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says he wants food makers to stop using synthetic dyes made from petroleum to color what we eat and drink. That's next. With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets

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for everyone being here. That's food activist Bonnie Hari at a protest in front of Kellogg's headquarters last fall. On social media, she goes by the handle, The Food Babe, and she's got 2.3 million followers on Instagram. I'm here for all Americans who don't know the truth about our food industry. Hari and hundreds of protesters marched on a street in Battle Creek. toward the front door of Kellogg's headquarters. They asked to be let in and were denied entry. Red-O-Khoo-K!

Let's get! Kellogg's cereal had recently become a big target of the Maha movement. People like Hari and RFK Jr. are highly critical of food that is processed, sugary, and filled with artificial food dyes. And many of Kellogg's products check all those boxes. Here's another protester speaking out against a lot of, artificial food dies. There's no way that you can deny that it's doing something negative to your body.

It doesn't belong there. It's not natural. It shouldn't be in our food. A Kellogg spokeswoman said that the company agrees with the Trump administration's focus on health and wellness, and that it has changed its cereals over time to suit consumers changing tastes, such as adding offerings with less sugar. She said many cereals contain just four ingredients plus vitamins and minerals, which the company has recently begun noting on some packaging.

The Maha movement has exploded in the last few months. And now, with RFK Jr. in government, it has a lot of power. RFK Jr. believes that artificial dies can cause, you know, all different kinds of problems for consumers. But in particular, he says that they cause ADHD and other problems in kids. And so, you know, he doesn't think that. artificial dyes have any place in the American food supply, and he started going after food loops in particular. So what was his goal with those comments? So he said very early on he was asked what he would do if he were part of the Trump administration, and he said, I will ask the

cereal companies to take dyes out of their products. Food companies and industry groups have said artificial dyes are safe. Immediately after Trump's election, an RFK Jr.'s nomination to lead the HHS, big food companies, including Kellogg, tried to push back. After Trump was reelected, food industry lobbyists descended on Capitol Hill and started to one of my favorite details that we learned from reporting was that they started out by targeting lawmakers that they referred to as Maha Curious. So this was lawmakers who they thought might be sympathetic to some of Maha's messages. And they went in and they were, you know, trying to defend the products that they make and talk about how, you know, the products that they

make are safe and affordable. And in some cases, they were bringing toxicologists with them to explain what certain ingredients do to impress upon them, like, how seriously they take safety. And so they really ramped up their lobbying game. But RFK Jr's ideas around food have already spread to state houses across the country, from democratically controlled states like Massachusetts to Republican ones, like West Virginia and Utah, all have introduced bills that ban many artificial dyes used by big food. And this is a huge concern for food companies. So food companies are, you know, they have been very, you know, clear that they sort of cannot operate in a world in which, you know, there's what they refer to as like a patchwork of legislation, which

bans certain ingredients in certain states and other ingredients in other states and requires warning labels in, you know, Texas and a QR code on packaging in Louisiana. And what the food companies will tell you is that, you know, they can't make one product for West Virginia and another product for another state. An HHS spokesman said that Kennedy values ongoing engagement with the food industry and is encouraged by the steps many companies are taking to improve nutrition and public health. Under this pressure, Kellogg relented.

And they were, you know, one of the first to make any sort of commitment. Okay. And they said three things. They said, okay, we're going to remove artificial dyes from the foods that we make for schools. They said starting January 1st, 2026, we won't come out with any new products that use artificial dyes. And then they also said that they were working with the administration to come up with a way to remove dyes from the rest of their products. Although Kellogg's made these commitments, it remains to be seen whether U.S. consumers will buy naturally dyed fruit. loops. And switching away from artificial dyes will not be easy.

So this is a huge effort for their supply chains. First of all, they have to like find, you know, natural dyes. They've got to source these natural dyes. Often, you know, natural dyes can be more expensive, particularly if they are in short supplies, than artificial dyes. So they have to source these new dyes. They are going to have to change their, you know, manufacturing and their equipment in their plants. They're going to have to retool their plants. They are going to have to change their processes, and they will likely have to tweak their recipes. So how are Kellogg's challenges impacting its bottom line? Kellogg, as we've talked about, like, has Maha challenges, and then they just have serial challenges.

You know, the category is struggling. and they won't draw a line and say, you know, Maha has impacted sales in this way. Yeah. But we can see that their sales have really slowed and have our declining quarter after quarter. Under all this pressure, Kellogg attracted a buyer. Ferreiro, the Italian food company most famous for making Nutella, announced in July that they were going to buy the cereal company for $3.1 billion. Originally, Ferreira was going to offer more, but then it realized that Maha was a big concern.

And what was fascinating to see was that over the course of several months, they wound up reducing their offer by about $75 million, and they said that that was because both of Kellogg's financial performance and also because of what they refer to as significant political and regulatory headwinds. And so, you know, it was what we learned through reporting was that Maha was a real concern for Ferreiro. Jesse's reporting shows that executives across big food companies are trying to determine the best way to deal with Maha. Do they fight or do they acquiesce? Their challenge? Balancing America's new hunger for healthier ingredients with the realities of what people will actually buy.

Some companies have assembled special teams for this new political moment. They're trekking ingredients under scrutiny and assessing which ones they might have to remove or label. What message does Kellogg's Maha problem send to the rest of the food industry? You know, I think in a lot of ways, Kellogg's Maha problem really mirrors

what the rest of the industry is going through. Kellogg is unique in the amount of pressure that it's faced because they were this early target. But really, the entire food industry faces the same Maha problem. And I think what is really interesting that we learned through the course of the deal, however, is that Maha, in that case, had actual financial ramifications.

So Maha is a genuine force, and we can debate the scientific bona fides of the various things that it wants to do and we can debate how much of it will actually get done but I don't think there's any debating that it's a significant force at the moment that companies really have to reckon with.

all for today, Thursday, August 28th. The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and the Wall Street Journal. Additional reporting in this episode from Owen Tucker Smith. Thanks for listening. See you tomorrow.