The Journal. - How Scotts Miracle-Gro's Weed Business Went Up in Smoke

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

Over a decade ago, home gardening giant Scotts Miracle-Gro made a bold push for growth in a nascent and controversial industry: cannabis. What was once the company’s lucrative bet is now a strugglin...g business. WSJ’s Dean Seal explains how Scotts Miracle-Gro ventured into marijuana and why their early bet has shriveled up. Oyin Adedoyin hosts. Further Listening:  How the 'Napa Valley of Cannabis' Dried Up The Highs and Lows of Diversifying the Cannabis Industry The Drug You’ve Never Heard of Wreaking Havoc Across Europe Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everyone, it's Jess. I'm here to say that my colleague, Oyan, Edoyan, will be guest hosting today's episode. Enjoy. In the wake of the 2008 recession, Scott's Miracle Grow was struggling. The gardening giant's customer base was drying up. We had people spending less on their lawns and gardens
Starting point is 00:00:23 because there were other things to prioritize spending on. That's my colleague, Dean Seal. The recession obviously hit consumers, but they also hit businesses. So Home Depot, Lowe's, you know, they stopped building as many new stores. And when your main retailer isn't building as many stores, you can't grow as rapidly as you were before. But while gardeners were cutting back, a whole new industry was just starting to bloom. Cannabis. The first legal marijuana stores in Washington State opened their doors today.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Colorado became the first state to allow pot to be. bought and sold for recreational use. Virginia is the first southern state to legalize marijuana. The Vermont legislature is one step away from legalizing marijuana. By the early 2010s, medical cannabis had started to become bigger and bigger as more states were legalizing it. We didn't really see recreational cannabis. That wasn't a thing until Washington and Colorado legalized adult use cannabis. And that's when the company started looking at cannabis.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Scott's Miracle Grow saw an opportunity to help cannabis growers by selling them supplies and equipment. But for a major Wall Street company, getting into weed comes with risks. Welcome through The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Oyan-Adoyan. It's Monday, August 25th. Coming up on the first, the show, how a company known for its weed killer became a weed champion. Scott's Miracle Grows Roots date back to 1868. Since 2001, the company has been headed by CEO Jim Haggardorn. He took over the business from his father.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Horace Hacadorn, the founder of Miracle Grow. Law and garden business is great, and so people spending more time at home, they're more interested in unifying their yard and their garden. Nowadays, I think that if you think of potting mix, the soil that you go to start your own gardens in, you're usually getting a Scots Miracle Grow product. So they're ubiquitous in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:02:49 You'll see them in Lowe's, Home Depot, Walmart. They're all over the place, and I think that they really are sort of a figurehead in that industry. In 2008, growth at Hagadorn's company, was stalling. That's where cannabis comes in. Around that time, states started easing restrictions on marijuana, allowing it for medical use. And some, like Washington and Colorado, were even moving towards legalizing recreational use. For CEO Jim Haggadorn, it smelled like an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:03:22 If you ask Jim, he would say that it sort of started in around 2011. It was actually an interview with the Wall Street Journal. where they were talking about, they were talking about a lot of different things, but at one point a reporter asked, you know, what about cannabis? We see this medical market growing. Do you think that there's room for Scots in there? And he said, well, absolutely, it's a plant. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:03:42 We specialize in plants. All plants need the same thing. You know, they need nutrients. They need soil. They need sun. And we know how those processes work, so why not? But after that statement, Hagdoran met some resistance from people within his own company. When he said that, there was a little bit of an outcry.
Starting point is 00:04:01 He told me that the lead director on his board and the audit chair on his board both gave him a phone call and said, like, hey man, you got to cool it. He said they were nice about it, but pretty stern. That's not the industry that we're in. Cannabis is still federally illegal. But I think that it was still just sort of planted in Jim's mind. I think that at the time, particularly when there was no adult use cannabis anywhere in the country, it just seemed really scary for any company to get into that space because, you need financing, and bankers know that, you know, if something is against the law, they don't really want to touch it. Some states were moving towards legalization, but marijuana remains illegal at the federal level.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Haggadorn couldn't get Scott's miracle grow into the cannabis business, at least not directly. So Haggadorn wanted to push into the industry without drawing too much attention. And a year after he spoke with the journal, he found a way in. He was flying out to Washington. He got waylaid on his way and had to stop in some small town and he went to an Ace Hardware there and he was looking around
Starting point is 00:05:05 and usually at Ace Hardware he would see nothing but Scott's Miracle Grow products everywhere. But this was sort of a hydroponics-oriented store and he was saying like, where is the Scots? And he got to talking to the person behind the counter and he said, you know, we cater to hydroponics growers. That's not Scott's Miracle Grow. hydroponics is a way to grow plants without soil, often used by urban gardeners, and by cannabis growers.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Hydroponic supplies have mostly been sold by smaller companies. And they sort of wink, wink, they cater to hydroponics growers, people who grow up green tomatoes, was the word that he used. And both hydroponics and green tomatoes are apparently within cannabis cultivation, a little bit of a euphemism for growing pot. So Jim saw it, and he said, okay, well, that's... That's new territory. There's all these companies that are getting in on this. How does Scots get in on this? Hagadorn wanted in on the hydroponics industry.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And to do that, he decided to acquire hydroponics companies and manage them under a subsidiary, the Hawthorne Gardening Company. Hawthorne, by the way, is the English translation of Hagadorn, a German surname. In 2014, Jim tapped his son, Chris Haggadorn to Ron Hawthorne. So how did Chris and Jim grow the Hawthorne business?
Starting point is 00:06:31 So it started out with just kind of doing a roadshow of looking around and seeing what are the businesses that are already dominating this space and how do we get in good with them. And so they identified two of the biggest players in the market. That was general hydroponics and vermicrop. And they were supplying the cannabis industry. So they're not growing cannabis themselves, but they were supplying those materials that are needed to grow cannabis.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Scott's Miracle Grow met with the companies to strike up a deal. But initially, they were hesitant. A lot of these cannabis supply companies, you know, had been doing it for, some of them have been doing it for decades. And this was an industry that sort of lived in the shadows for all of those decades. They liked the lack of regulation for the most part because it allowed them to operate pretty freely. And there was a sense that if we don't have a lot of people looking over our shoulder, we can
Starting point is 00:07:23 grow the canvas that we want to grow, we can run the business, the way that we want to run the business. And so I think that was the skepticism, is suddenly if we start turning to this Wall Street company, then, you know, that's just going to invite more scrutiny on this space that had thrived without much oversight. What did the Hagadorn's do to try to ease this culture clash? I think that Chris really understood the assignment to try to avoid giving off this feeling that they were corporate raiders or something like that. He and his team would go to these meetings. They would never wear suits. They wouldn't even wear anything with Scott's branding because
Starting point is 00:08:00 they just wanted to show that they were normal guys. They weren't going to ask these companies to start doing things differently. They didn't want to clean house. They just wanted to find successful businesses and help build them, be it through capital or through resources like R&D. And that strategy worked. General Hydroponics and Vermacrop were open to working with with Scott's Miracle Grow. I spoke with the leader of those two companies who had been in the space for a long time, and I think that he could see that Hawthorne was trying
Starting point is 00:08:31 to be a little bit different from some of the private equity players and bigger companies that had tried to see if they could make an incursion in the space. I think they saw Scots as potentially being able to give cannabis a little bit more legitimacy. And so they thought, well, if they can help give us legitimacy,
Starting point is 00:08:48 maybe we can help give them a more reliable reputation here. But the deal almost didn't happen. Right before the deal was prepped to close, they get a call or a letter from the Human Resources Department of Scott saying, as part of this deal, all of your employees, they're now our employees, and they are going to be subject to our marijuana drug testing. And so those two companies said, listen, we've got hundreds of employees here.
Starting point is 00:09:13 They're already really nervous about having this big corporation coming in. And now we have to go back and tell them that they have to start pee testing for marijuana, Like, we are in the marijuana business. I don't think that's going to fly. And it was, it created a lot of consternation enough so that Vermacrop and GH said, no, we're not going to do this deal. It's just, this is too much of a clash. But I think Scott's understood that, and so they ultimately backed down,
Starting point is 00:09:39 and not only did they back down, they eliminated marijuana drug testing for all of Scott's miracle grow. And so, yeah, the guys who I talked to in the supply companies, they said that for years after that they were getting thanked by Scott's miracle grow. We're getting thanked by Scott's employees. We appreciate this change. They created like a revolution within the company. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:10:01 In the end, the deal was signed, and Hawthorne was all set to go into the cannabis supply business. I think that Hawthorne did a good job of establishing its reputation in the way that Chris had originally envisioned and following through on that. For the most part, I heard a lot of really positive things from the people that I talked about of Hawthorne. really not trying too hard to change anybody. At the same time, you know, cannabis itself was getting a better reputation. More states were legalizing it. So as cannabis grew as an industry, so too did Hawthorne. But could the high last?
Starting point is 00:10:38 That's next. By the late 2010s, Hawthorne's business was booming. Because the industry was thriving, Hawthorne's customer's success was Hawthorne's success in a lot of ways. They started out mostly doing those growing materials and some equipment, but then as the business was growing, they started to branch out into different product lines. within cannabis cultivation.
Starting point is 00:11:22 So they started selling the lights that you use for indoor grows. They started selling water filtration systems. And ultimately, Hawthorne came to dominate the space because they just sold everything that a cannabis grower would need. I talked to multiple growers who said that kind of by the late 2010s, Hawthorne products were making up the majority of their grow operations. So tell me about, like, how successful this business was. They were making money, I'd assume.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah, they were really. in a lot of revenue. I think with each new acquisition, they were opening themselves up to a lot of new customers. And especially as we get into the pandemic, you can see that suddenly, you know, Scott started posting the highest quarterly profits had ever had before, and Hawthorne was a huge contributor to that. During the pandemic, consumption of marijuana reached new heights, and the company's stock price more than doubled. Investors saw Scott's miracle grow as a way to invest in the cannabis industry without getting their hands dirty.
Starting point is 00:12:21 And as the industry became more mainstream, the company was able to be more open about its involvement with cannabis. But that high didn't last forever. When did things start to go south? Ultimately, as the pandemic started to recede, cannabis consumption started to recede as well. As demand started to subside,
Starting point is 00:12:43 there was too much supply. There was too much inventory. So all these companies that had built out all their operations, were just sitting on all this weed and they didn't really know what to do with it. And so as a result, the wholesale price of cannabis started to collapse. And so I talked to Chris and he said that, you know, there was one day that they were just sitting in there looking at the price of wholesale cannabis just dropping and dropping and dropping. And that's when the alarm bells started to go off.
Starting point is 00:13:09 What did that mean for Hawthorne? So for Hawthorne, you know, they are dependent on the success with their customers. So if their weed growing customers are either folding or, or having to slash their staff or not bringing in revenue, then that means that they can't continue to buy Hawthorne supplies. And so there was not a lot of demand coming in for Hawthorne. So suddenly as that revenue started slump, those profits turned to losses. Those losses started to weigh on the bottom line of the big Scott's company,
Starting point is 00:13:38 and that's when they realized that maybe this big growth avenue had started to close. And how bad exactly was the situation for Hawthorne? What did this look like on the balance sheet? I mean, the Hawthorne unit in the stuff started posting pretty major losses over the last couple of years that has then led to them realizing that they, just as the cannabis industry has started to kind of pull back because of its overbuild, they had to do something similar with Hawthorans. The Hagadorns have been trying to write the ship, cutting staff and trying to get back into
Starting point is 00:14:10 profitability. But the biggest obstacle for the company and the cannabis industry at large is federal law. Under federal law, marijuana is classified as a class one drug. The same category is heroin. And it makes it really, really hard for any business that is touching that drug in any way to operate like a normal business. The biggest example of that is that they can't deduct ordinary business expenses from their taxes. And when you can't deduct business expenses, it's extremely hard to turn a profit. If recreational marijuana were legalized on the federal level, what would that mean for Hawthorne and the industry at large?
Starting point is 00:14:46 Oh, I mean, that would be the gates opening. That's what everybody wants in the industry more than anything else, because right now there's so many limitations on what a legal cannabis company can do. They don't get treated like a real business in the eyes of the federal government. And so if it were to be fully legalized, then suddenly that's, I mean, that's just full-scale legitimacy. And that also opens up a lot of really interesting new avenues for maybe research into cannabis development, things that companies could really use to hone their products so that regulators can create nice frameworks. There's a lot that could be unlocked if suddenly weed was legalized. Has Hagdorn done personally anything to try to move the needle in that direction? Oh, yeah. He's been a big advocate for legal cannabis, particularly in the last few years. When I spoke to him in early April, he was on his way that day, actually, down to Mar-a-Lago for a dinner with President Trump where he wanted to push for the federal government to end its hostility towards cannabis. And so he told me that he didn't get to make the pitch to Trump.
Starting point is 00:15:46 himself, but he did sit next to Susie Wiles, the chief of staff, and got to make his pitch there and just say that, you know, obviously we, it's tough to suddenly go out to Congress and say, hey, make this fully legalized. But there's all these smaller changes that could be made at the regulatory level that he has been advocating for. President Trump has expressed support for easing some marijuana restrictions, but it's unclear if that might happen. Since the Trump administration took over, we have not really seen any progress on the regulatory. level. But that said, there is a small change. It's called rescheduling that would take cannabis from a Schedule 1 drug down to a Schedule 3 drug that a lot of people in the industry have been pushing for and that Trump said, as recently as this month, that he is interested in looking at. Now, he hasn't necessarily said that he will make it happen or won't make it happen, but he said a
Starting point is 00:16:37 decision will be coming in a few weeks. So I think a lot of people in the industry are waiting with bated breath to see what that final decision is going to be. If cannabis isn't legal by the federal government, what does that mean for Hawthorne? It means that we'll have to wait for more of that kind of piecemeal advancement and regulation to help the industry out. But for Hawthorne, I think that they're really just ready to kind of disentangle the Scott's brand entirely at this point. The Hagadorns are looking to sell Hawthorne gardening by the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:17:09 But they're not completely walking away from cannabis. Dean says Scott's Miracle Grow is looking to sign a dean. deal that lets them buy Hawthorne back if marijuana is legalized at the federal level. I think it's safe to say that Scots was somewhat burned by this whole experience. And even if the Haggardorans are big proponents of the cannabis industry, and I'm sure they're going to keep a really close eye on it and see if there's a way to dip their toes back in at some point, I think it's safe to say that Hawthorne is a, it was an experiment that they're not going to pick back up until there's a much cleaner runway in front of them.
Starting point is 00:17:41 And what does the story tell you about the cannabis industry? There's no question that cannabis has found its home in some ways in U.S. culture, in the U.S. business. But that's said, they've kind of run into a wall now. At this point, they need the federal government to catch up, and they need to start getting some easing in the restrictions around this truck that is widely popular. Across the electorate, I think a very high percentage of Americans believe that cannabis should be fully legalized. Is there a lesson here for companies that are thinking about getting into the cannabis industry? Maybe not necessarily a lesson. It's sort of a moral tale, I think, of making a big bet. And sometimes it's looking like it's absolutely going to work out, and then it runs into a wall.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I think that a lot of companies can understand that, you know, a lot of companies try to branch out into something. new. They try to make a risky bet. They want to be that early mover. But the tough part is being early can sometimes be just as bad as being wrong. That's all for today, Monday, August 25th. The journal is a co-production of Spotify and the Wall Street Journal. If you like our show, look for us on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. We're every weekday afternoon. Thanks for listening. See you tomorrow.

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