The Journal. - Love Trump? Now You Can Buy His Meme Coin.

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

The crypto industry has hailed President Trump as a savior. But shortly before his inauguration, Trump made a surprise move that shook the crypto world. WSJ’s Vicky Ge Huang explains the president�...�s new cryptocurrency and why it has ruffled feathers. Further Reading: -$TRUMP Is Already Worth Billions. What to Know About the Meme Coin.  -Crypto Thought Trump Would Bring It Legitimacy. Then He Launched a Meme Coin.  Further Listening: -Bitcoin Hit $100k. What's Next?  -Inside the Trump Crypto Bromance  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Friday before inauguration, the crypto industry convened in DC for a party. They called it the Crypto Ball. Our colleague Vicky Huang talked to some of the attendees. Who was there? Everyone. A lot of the most high profile people in crypto were there, such as Coinbase CEO, Brian Armstrong, the co-founders of crypto exchange Gemini, the Wink of Oz brothers, and some of the most high profile political figures. Trump's pick for Treasury Secretary was there.
Starting point is 00:00:42 So was the Speaker of the House. Guests noshed on beef tenderloin and tuna tartare. They snapped up free swag like make Bitcoin great again hats and Trump style golden slippers. Snoop Dogg performed. What were they celebrating? They were celebrating the inauguration of President Trump, but beyond that, it was more about how President Trump has become the crypto industry's biggest cheerleader. On the campaign trail, Trump embraced crypto. He promised industry-friendly regulations and pledged to start a national Bitcoin reserve. And the crypto industry embraced Trump right back, channeling contributions to him and other
Starting point is 00:01:33 crypto-friendly candidates. Now, at the crypto ball, it seemed like all that effort and cash was about to pay off. Here's Trump's crypto czar, David Sachs, on stage. The reign of terror against crypto is over. And the beginning of innovation in America for crypto has just begun. But while they were partying, Trump, the champion of the crypto industry, was making a surprise move. So at 9 p.m. President Trump posted on his social media platform, True Social, that he was launching a cryptocurrency. currency. The president-elect had just launched his own coin. And this move would royal the crypto community. Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power.
Starting point is 00:02:38 I'm Kate Leinbach. It's Thursday, January 23rd. Coming up on the show, why Trump's cryptocurrency has shaken the crypto world. Air Transat presents two friends traveling in Europe for the first time and feeling some pretty big emotions. This coffee is so good! How do they make it so rich and tasty? Those paintings we saw today weren't prints.
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Starting point is 00:03:41 wasn't just any kind of cryptocurrency. It's what's known in the crypto community as a meme coin. What is a meme coin? A meme coin is a type of cryptocurrency that is essentially built to generate a few laughs. It's usually based on a meme such as a phrase, an image. Like little viral internet thingamajiggers. Nuggets, yes. How many of these meme coins have you seen in the past few years?
Starting point is 00:04:21 There have been millions of meme coins created. According to Vicky, the most popular usually featured dogs. And that's no surprise because the first and most successful meme coin is Dogecoin. Shiba Inu-themed cryptocurrency that was started out as a joke but took off after was started out as a joke, but took off after it received a lot of endorsement from the billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk. In its heyday in 2021, Dogecoin was worth over $80 billion. Unsurprisingly, it spawned many imitators. So as a result, you have Shiba Inu coin, you have Baby Doge coin, you have Dog with Hat coin, which is based on meme of a Doge wearing a pink beanie. And as a serious reporter for the Wall Street Journal,
Starting point is 00:05:22 you're covering these things. It's a fun job. How do you make one of these coins? They have become extremely easy to create. Say if you want to create a meme coin, you can go onto one of these platforms websites and you click a button and they ask you to put in the names, the ticker, some other basic information and then you pay a fee and then your meme coin is created within minutes. Because they're so popular and easy to make, meme coins have also become a vehicle for
Starting point is 00:06:03 scams. One of these scams is sometimes called a rug pull. Basically, someone launches a new coin, they hype it up, convince other people to buy it, and then they sell, raking in the profits and tanking the coin price for everyone else. All of which is to say, meme coins
Starting point is 00:06:25 don't have the greatest reputation. Okay, so tell us about this coin that Trump launched last Friday, the night of the crypto ball. So the night of the crypto ball, Trump launched a meme coin that trades under the ticker Trump. And the meme itself is a picture of President Trump with his fist in the air, with the words fight, fight, fight in the background.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Trump announced the launch on his Truth Social platform. He posted, quote, get your Trump now. The price of the token immediately soared. In the first hours of trading, one Trump coin could go for $7, $10, and then $20. But as more people jumped in, the price climbed even higher, to $30, $40, then $70.
Starting point is 00:07:21 On Sunday, the Trump coin had an almost $15 billion market cap. For the people who bought this coin, why did they do it? Why did they think it was a good move? I thought these kinds of coins are jokes. A lot of traders rushed into the Trump coin because they see a once in a lifetime opportunity to make money. And a lot of them did. If we look at social media, a lot of traders who put in money even on Saturday,
Starting point is 00:07:55 hours after Trump launched the token and sold on Sunday, they've been able to make a really quick, big gain within just a few hours. What did the surging price of this coin mean for Trump himself? So the hot take is that for President Trump, this means that he's now one of the biggest crypto billionaires. Trump is now a crypto billionaire because entities associated with him own 80% of the supply of Trump coins. The organizations behind the coins are CIC Digital, which is an affiliate of the Trump organization,
Starting point is 00:08:46 and Fight Fight Fight, LLC, which is co-owned by CIC Digital. But Trump's ballooning crypto wealth was about to receive a hit, and from an unlikely source, his wife, Melania Trump. likely source, his wife, Melania Trump. On Sunday afternoon, the first lady launched her own cryptocurrency, her own meme coin. The incoming first lady also announced her coin
Starting point is 00:09:17 on Truth Social. She posted, quote, you can buy Melania now. And the meme of her is a picture of her smiling while clasping her hand in a prayer position. Melania's token soon soared in value as well. However, this caused a crash of almost 50% in the Trump token. Wait a second. Her stock goes up, so his goes down?
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yes. I say stock, but I mean coin. Her coin goes up, so his goes down? Yes, the launch of her coin caused his coin to crash. Why? Is that because they like Melania more? I don't think so. I think they like any new opportunity to make money on the newest, hottest thing.
Starting point is 00:10:10 The problem, according to traders Vicky talked to, was that the buyers for Trump's coin and Melania's coin overlapped. The same people who were looking to make a quick buck on Trump's coin now wanted Melania's token. Traders basically had to sell the Trump tokens in order to buy the newest coin because they see this upside of making profits. Some crypto fans applauded Trump's decision to release a coin, saying it brought energy, attention, and new users to digital currencies. Others just bragged on X about their gains, like media entrepreneur Dave Portnoy.
Starting point is 00:10:56 He said he made, quote, a quick milli and then said he loved Trump's America. But the Trump and Melania coins also generated plenty of criticism. Cryptoskeptics called the coins a scam and others worried that people might buy tokens as a way of currying favor with Trump. Has Trump responded to these concerns? Trump hasn't responded to these concerns and the Trump organization hasn't responded or made any statements. At a press conference with the president Tuesday a
Starting point is 00:11:30 reporter referred to the launch of Trump's coin. Do you intend to continue selling products that benefit yourself personally while you're president? Well I don't know if it benefited I don't know where it is I don't know much about it other than I launched it I heard it was very successful I haven't know where it is. I don't know much about it other than I launched it. I heard it was very successful. I haven't checked it. Where is it today? But Trump's coin has done more than fire up the usual critics. It's also drawn criticism from within the crypto community. That's next.
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Starting point is 00:12:48 working hard to repair crypto's reputation. Ever since the collapse of the crypto exchange FTX, the industry's reputation has been tarnished. It has been seen as this industry that's rife with fraud and scams and all kinds of scandals. However, especially over the past year, the industry has really been working hard to rebuild its image and it has made a lot of progress on that front. Crypto is increasingly going mainstream. Major Wall Street firms now offer crypto funds. Crypto-friendly legislators won big in November's election.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And in December, the price of Bitcoin hit $100,000 for the first time. They feel like they have finally arrived at this moment where crypto could be taken seriously. And then you have the soon to be President of the United States launching a cryptocurrency that's known for its speculative nature, extreme volatility, and high risks. It's kind of like proving to the world that crypto is speculation. Crypto is nothing more than speculation. It is a sort of boom and bust investment.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Meme coins have such a dodgy reputation that when Trump first posted about his new coin, many in the crypto community assumed it was a scam and his accounts had been hacked. When it became clear that the coin launch was real, some in the industry raised concerns that it was a rug pull, that the Trump entities behind the coin could cash out, tanking the coin price for everyone else. A lot of critics of the coins think that the tokens have characteristics of a ragpull. So one characteristics that worry a lot of crypto watchers is that the Trump tokens, 80% of it,
Starting point is 00:14:57 are controlled by insiders, the organizations related to the Trump organization. Heavy insider ownership is a red flag because it means that the insiders will be able to sell lots of tokens and crash or collapse the price of the token in a very quick period of time. On the other hand, Vicki says, cashing out would be tricky in practice because of how the
Starting point is 00:15:26 Trump meme coin is structured. The one stipulation on the website associated with the Trump coin is that in total there are one billion Trump coins in existence, but only 200 million have been released since the token launched on Friday. And the rest of the 800 million tokens will be released over three years. So Trump can't just sell all the tokens immediately. They need to be sold over the course of three years. Yes. So that's a sign that it might not be a rug pull. Yes, that's a sign that it might not be a rug pull. Yes, that's a sign that it might not be a rug pull.
Starting point is 00:16:14 What does this whole coin drama tell you about the crypto industry? It reflects this tension between two sides of crypto. On one side, there are these serious builders, executives and investors who ardently hope that crypto will be seen as a real important industry that's driving innovation in America. On the other side, there are these fast money traders. They want numbers to go up and tokens to trade based on speculation, hype, and excitement.
Starting point is 00:16:55 The tension between the gamblers and the suits. Yes, that's a really good way to sum it up. Which side is Trump on? Trump is kind of in the middle of it all. On the one hand, he's courted the money and votes of deep pocketed crypto investors and executives. On the other hand, he's beloved by these crypto traders who are overjoyed about his pledges to make US the crypto capital of the planet that has cost token prices to skyrocket. What do you think it signals about what the next four years are going to be like?
Starting point is 00:17:48 To a lot of people, it signals that the next four years is going to be quite tumultuous. That it might not be the golden age for digital assets or crypto renaissance that a lot of people in the industry had expected the next four years to be. That it might be a lot of ups and downs and a lot of unexpected events. The crypto industry could be in for a lot more surprises. As of Thursday afternoon, Melania's coin is worth about $470 million and Trump's coin about $7 billion. That's all for today, Thursday, January 23rd. The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and The Wall Street Journal. Additional reporting in this episode by Caitlin Ostrov.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Audio in this episode from Rob Smith via Storyful. Thanks for listening. See you tomorrow.

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