The Journal. - Red, White and Who? The Inflation Election

Episode Date: October 14, 2026

“Red, White and Who?” The Journal’s election mini-series is back to cover the midterms. Every Wednesday for the next five weeks, Ryan Knutson talks with reporters around the country about issues... important to voters. This week: President Trump's focus on the economy helped clear his way to the White House in 2024. But two years later, Trump initiatives like the war in Iran and global tariffs, have made life more expensive for voters. WSJ's Eliza Collins and producer Pierce Singgih visited a suburb in Arizona, home to one of the most competitive House races in the country, to see how voters feel about the economy and Republican party in 2026.  Further Listening: - Red, White and Who? The Anti-AI Voters Sign up for WSJ’s Politics newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's around 3 p.m. on Thursday. A restaurant cook is frying up some pears, preparing for dinner. What do the pears do for? It goes on a new salad we're doing, it's a burglah, pears, some chives, cherry vinegar,ette salad. New salad starts the day. Michael Rusconi owns the restaurant. It's called Rusconi's American Kitchen.
Starting point is 00:00:32 You know, the concept was always to create a fine dining experience at a moderate price point, and I've been very successful doing that. Michael says over the last several years, it's been a lot harder to run this restaurant. Things are just more expensive, from the cost of beef to labor to fuel. He sat down with Eliza Collins, our political reporter based in Phoenix.
Starting point is 00:00:56 I think fuel prices hurt people. I know I'm affected because my deliveries have fuel surcharges on them that have increased. What was the increase look like? Um, $25. Per delivery? Some are higher, some are lower, some are $10. But I see that a lot more than I used to.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Michael's restaurant is in North Phoenix, near Scottsdale. It's located in Arizona's first congressional district, home to one of the most competitive house races in the country. It's one of the districts that Democrats think they can flip in their quest to win back the house. So you spent a few days with our producer Pierce talking to voters What at a high level is your takeaway from how voters in this area of the country are feeling? They're feeling stressed about the economy.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Almost every voter we talked to talked about the cost of gas and how high it was. Gas prices have gone up substantially. Well, I've lost my job, and so now I'm retired involuntarily. And it just costs more to fill up my truck as I go along. People talked about making choices at the grocery store. I get an Italian expressible, and it used to be $12 a bag. It went up to $18 a bag. As far as groceries and the economy and everything else, everything has gone up, and everybody is feeling it.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I used to not pay attention to the price of groceries, and then all of a sudden I looked at my receipt one day, a couple years back, and was like, okay, I got to start shopping with price in mind. People were certainly feeling economic hardship. I'm seeing a lot of inflation. That's why I have a second job because everything costs more. Everything's more expensive. Electrical or power costs are rising. Water costs are rising. Food costs are rising.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Gosh, where do I stop? From the journal, this is Red, White, and Who? Our series about the road to the midterms. I'm Ryan Knudson. It's Wednesday, October 14. Coming up on the show, the inflation election. This episode is brought to you by IG Private Wealth. When your financial life gets more complex, having a clear plan matters.
Starting point is 00:03:32 IG advisors build personalized, integrated financial plans that connect your investments, tax strategies, retirement income, and estate planning into one coordinated plan. They will help you make confident decisions about your wealth and your future. Get financial advice that puts you at the center. Visit IGPrivatewealth.com to find an advisor near you. On day one of my new administration, we're going to throw out Bidenomics, and we're going to replace it with Maginomics, Magin. Back in 2024, then candidate Donald Trump made the economy, the central focus of his campaign.
Starting point is 00:04:16 His story of the economy was that Joe Biden broke it. We're going to stop the Biden spending spree. We're going to halt his inflation death spiral. We're going to terminate his green news scam. And the Kamala Harris would make it worse. With four more years of Harris, your finances will never recover. They're never going to recover. Trump promised to fix it.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And that was what people heard. That was definitely a winning strategy for him. But after two years, the economy isn't going the way some voters thought. Inflation is ticked back up. When Trump was elected, inflation was 2.6%. Now, it's at 3.4%. An economist say tariffs and the war in Iran have contributed to rising prices. All right, so Democrats need to flip at least three seats in order to win the House.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Let's talk about one of those seats that's in play, AZ1, where you went around and talked to voters. Where is it and why is it important to this year's midterms? So AZ1 is one of the most competitive seats in the country. It includes part of northern Phoenix. And then it sweeps into Scottsdale, which is essentially a suburb. connected to Phoenix. And these voters have tended to prove to be very swingy. Arizona is really a libertarian state at the end of the day. Voters like people who are willing to break with their party and who stay right in the middle and focused on the economy. It was a Republican state for a long,
Starting point is 00:05:45 long time. The last Republican governor here was Doug Deucey. He was a very business-focused, tax-cutting Republican. Those types of Republicans have tended to do very well here. And the Democrats that have been able to come in in their wake have been very centrist. The state voted for Trump in 2016, then Biden in 2020, and then Trump again in 2024. And it has two Democratic senators. Voters here want to vote with their wallets. And they do.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And that's why we've seen it swing back and forth. In Arizona, the unemployment rate is above. the national average at 4.9%. And gas prices are higher, too. But AZ1 is a higher income district, and voters are relatively well off. The median household income is around $102,000. So people have more wiggle room to take some of these hits, but when they finally meet their threshold, they are done.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And that is something we're seeing here with people who are starting to say, you know, day in and day out, these costs are getting to me and we're having to make choices. Arizona has suffered with really high inflation in the past and a rapidly growing high cost of housing because of how quickly it's developing. Eliza and our producer Pierce Singhey went to talk to voters. Do you find that the microphone freaks people out? It does sometimes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I wish that there was a lower profile. Why? I know. It's less bad than a case. So when Pierce and I were out, we went to gas station. to talk to voters. It was over $5 a gallon at that point. Hi there.
Starting point is 00:07:30 We're with the Wall Street Journal. We're talking to people about the economy and the midterm elections, asking how much they're paying for gas, if they're going to vote. Any chance we can ask a couple questions. It's for a podcast. Great.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Okay, I'm Eliza. This is Pierce. Can we get your name? Casey O'Neill. Casey O'Neill is a general contractor. He was driving a pickup truck and filling up a gas can with diesel to take to a job site.
Starting point is 00:07:55 How much are you going to pay for gas today? So today I'm getting some diesel for some equipment at the job site. So what are we paying? 640. Right here. Oh, 640 a gallon. 640 for diesel. Okay, and you're getting just a small tank.
Starting point is 00:08:10 So I'm getting five, five gallons. So that's, you know, 30, 35 bucks. When I fill up my tank, now it's $5.5. That's the highest I've seen it. So I'm filling up my tank. It's $140. $145. That's bonkers.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Casey says he's an independent and didn't vote for Trump. He's going to vote for a Democrat in this year's midterms. What do you think of, you didn't vote for Trump? So you didn't vote for this, but how do you feel? Anybody who voted for Trump didn't vote for this, right? Didn't you say no new wars? They said no new wars. And a lot of people voted on the economy.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Man, the economy's horrible, right? Everything's more expensive. For Republicans, Eliza heard a mixed bag of responses. Some were frustrated by high prices and said they'd vote for Democrats this year. Others said they still supported Trump in his party, like Laura Johnston. Any chance we can ask you a couple questions? She was filling up a Mercedes. Well, gas prices aren't so well right now.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yeah. But he had to do what he had to do so that, you know, we don't get into a war with somebody that has nuclear bombs. So you're supportive of the war? Yes. You're okay still being in it as long as you're kind of willing to take the hit. Yes, yes. So can I ask, do you know how much it'll cost you to fill up your tank? This isn't where I typically fill up.
Starting point is 00:09:33 But it's not cheap for sure. Yeah. But it wasn't cheap when Biden was in office either, so. Among Trump supporters, that was something Eliza heard fairly often. But the economy and gas prices are bad now, but things felt bad under Biden too. It's a point that Michael, the restaurant owner you heard from earlier, made as well. So for the moment, Michael is unsure. of which way he's going to vote.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I have no idea yet. You know, I'll sit down with my daughter and my wife and we'll probably about a week out, two weeks out, we'll start to talk about it a little bit. My daughter's in law school, so she's very much connected to what's going on in the world, and we'll just see.
Starting point is 00:10:14 There are two people courting his vote for AZ1, a former NFL kicker. Join me. Let's take back our country, strengthen Arizona, finish the work the President Trump started. And an ER doctor. come into the ER, we don't care about your political party. We only care about saving your life. That's next.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Diffle far spacious as poor and burble is a brain for verbal race of rain for verbal mouth. Eliza went to a campaign event at a retirement community in Scottsdale. The Democratic candidate, Amish Shah, is speaking to a room of about 20 retirees. I mean, Shaw. I appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. Shaw is an ER doctor, and has served as a state representative. He ran for this seat last cycle and lost to the retiring Republican.
Starting point is 00:11:21 And he talks a lot about the economy, putting the blame on Trump. Our job is to care for the people of this district, all of you, solve problems for you, and that's what I intend to do. That's what I want to fix. What am I hearing out there? Tariffs. causing price rises. The war in Iran, again, causing the price of gas to grow. He has sort of the more traditional message you would expect for a district like this one. So he is really trying to make the pitch of being a bipartisan lawmaker.
Starting point is 00:11:53 He has said that he would vote to end the tariffs under Trump. He's been very critical of the war. And those are two major factors we're seeing on the economic pain. So he's sort of saying like, vote. for me because I will stop Trump and Trump is a bad force on the economy is essentially his sort of economic message rather than like I got... Yeah, and that's really
Starting point is 00:12:14 Democrats' economic message like in general this cycle, which is it's not super detailed. They're basically banking on people feeling unhappy with Trump and unhappy with the economy and saying like vote for us will be a check on him and be something different.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Shaw is running as an economic moderate, especially compared to some other high-profile Democrats around the country. At the town hall, he was asked about the rise of the Democratic socialists, and what he thinks of that wing of the party? What about the people who are currently running for both the House and the Senate who are professed to be socialist and or communist because they're in the Democratic Socialists of America? How are you going to work with them, and do you denounce them for being against our constitutional
Starting point is 00:13:04 Republic. Yeah, I don't have much in common with those types of folks in terms of what my beliefs are. What can I say other than this is politics? You've got people in both parties that I absolutely don't agree with. And while I was down there, if you saw in the state legislature, I vehemently disagree with a lot of my own party again and again. And so all I can do is I try to go down there and I try to work with people. I try to ask myself, where can I find something in common with you? I don't care what it is.
Starting point is 00:13:36 We'll find something in common that we can work on together and solve problems for the American people. Maybe they believe in some of the things that I just talked about. Shaw's Republican opponent is Jay Feeley. He's a former NFL kicker who played for several NFL teams,
Starting point is 00:13:52 including the Arizona Cardinals. He was recruited to run for the seat by President Trump. It's his first time running for office. Eliza met him outside his campaign office. Perfect. Thank you guys for making the time. I'm going to... I've been there since 2019.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I have been there since 2019. No, thanks. We also sat down with Feeley at his campaign office and had a conversation basically about why he was running and what he would do. And he really is trying to pitch himself as a different personality than Trump, for sure,
Starting point is 00:14:26 but not much daylight. between him and the president, not very critical of the president. And he's calculating that this is a district that has gone for Trump before and that voters here tend to lean a little bit more Republican. What Feeley is doing is talking a lot about Democratic socialists. Here he is in his interview with Eliza. And there is a fear of the Democrat Party embracing socialism. There's a fear of what is happening within their party.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I do believe they're having a civil war within their own party. And for the first time, my lifetime, we've seen a political party willing to embrace these policies that would fundamentally change our country forever going forward. And they are not hiding the policies that they want to embrace. You know, things like abolished prisons, abolished borders. Like, you haven't heard these terms in politics ever in the history of our country. And so I think that very much concerns the average voter. And so Feeley is really trying to lean.
Starting point is 00:15:29 into that part of the Democratic Party and the division and make the pitch that, like, capitalist, Trump's economic policies are the ones that make the most sense. Shaw is not a socialist, but if you were driving down the street here, you would absolutely think he was. There are many, many signs with him and Bernie Sanders that say socialist on them. How is Philly talking about the economy, or is he trying not to? I think you can't not right now because it is the... biggest issue for voters. But he is talking about it. Like, yes, people are in pain and he's blaming a
Starting point is 00:16:08 lot of it on Biden. But when I talk to them, this is the way that I would say it to them. If you bought something in 2020, it cost $100. Today it cost $127 because it's gone up 27%. 21 of those dollars are from Joe Biden. The increase in inflation under Joe Biden does not go away after his term ends. Trump then is responsible for, say, $6 to $7 of that increase. He's talked about how Trump has tried to make things better, acknowledging that the war raised gas prices. This is, again, sort of what we heard from other Trump supporters, but felt like it had to happen. He said he would like to be out of war soon, but it's difficult to do. FILEA has also suggested tax cuts to lower costs and supports data center development because he says they bring in new jobs and boosts the local economy, though he thinks consumers should be protected from rising energy prices.
Starting point is 00:17:07 So just broadening out of Arizona a bit, like how would you say the economy is resonating as an issue in these midterms? The economy is the biggest or one of the biggest issues across the entire country. And it depends where you're looking on what. specifically, but nobody is feeling great about their day-to-day costs. The Midwest has been particularly problematic for Republicans this cycle. We have seen races come online for Democrats that really have no business being competitive for Democrats. Iowa, Kansas are seen as toss-ups. A huge part of that is the tariffs and different policies from the Trump administration related to farming that have really hit the agriculture community. economically, Alaska is seen as competitive.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Alaska has very high gas prices right now. That's what's affecting voters every single day. When they are making choices at home, when they're walking out the door, at least according to polling, at least according to how things are looking right now, people are not giving Trump and Republicans high marks on the economy. And that might just benefit Democrats. If Democrats do take the House and the Senate, what would that even? mean for the country's economic agenda? I mean, how much of a difference would it potentially
Starting point is 00:18:30 even make? It's not really clear because Trump is still in power. So Democrats can pass all the legislation they want. And by the way, if they do by some chance take back the Senate, there's almost no way they're getting a super majority in the Senate, which would be 60 votes needed for most things. To overcome the filibuster. Yes. So they would need bipartisanship still on things. And so it's really hard to see what they can actually put forward. They can make life much more miserable for Trump. They can stop him from passing priorities.
Starting point is 00:19:08 They can open investigations into him, his cabinet, his allies. They can stop him from getting nominations through. So if you're Trump, you certainly don't want them to take back the House and the Senate, but them actually getting to put forward an economic adjudy. that will make a difference, the chances of that are very low. Around the country, we heard from our listeners about how the economy is influencing their vote. The economy is affecting how I'm voting. I think we all are feeling it.
Starting point is 00:19:41 It's feeling like our money can't help us at all. It feels like we keep falling into more debt, and it's unfortunate. Obviously, prices are high across the board, and I'm worried about having to pay higher prices on diesel especially when it comes to buying groceries at the grocery store. I'm a millennial, and I just have never felt like I'm working harder and getting less ahead. And it's just been really demoralizing to be a small business owner and to feel like we don't have the means to compete with the large, monopolized conglomerates that now exist and dominate the market. I have had conversations recently with high-level advisors who are on these campaigns that are
Starting point is 00:20:26 like unless the war stops, unless something dramatically changes in the cost of living, we are going to lose. And we're seeing that because voters vote with what affects them. And there are a few things that affect them more than how much it costs to live. And something like gas or groceries, things you absolutely need to have, if those are starting to feel out of reach for people, it's not a good sign for the party in power. and unfortunately for Republicans, right now, they have all the lovers of government.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Next week on Red White and Who, the GOP won a lot of Latino voters in South Texas in 2024. Can it keep them? Do you regret your vote for Trump? Well, yes, I regret my vote for Trump the same way. I regretted my vote for Biden. Red White and Who is part of the Journal, which is a co-production of Spotify and the Wall Street Journal.
Starting point is 00:21:38 This episode was produced by Pierce Singey and edited by Catherine Brewer. Audio engineering by Sam Baer. I'm Ryan Knudsen. Our theme music is by So Wiley and remixed by Peter Leonard. Fact-checking by Nicole Pasolko. Special thanks to Matt Kwong,
Starting point is 00:21:53 Chris Matthews, Sarah Platt, and the whole journal team. The journal will be back with a regular episode this afternoon. And the next installment of Red White and Who will be out next Wednesday. See you then.

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