The Journal. - The Chinese Coffee Giant Taking on Starbucks
Episode Date: July 30, 2025A delicious corporate rivalry is brewing! After an accounting fraud scandal nearly derailed its rise, Luckin Coffee has become the top-selling coffee chain in China. Now it’s expanding stateside, wi...th two new locations in New York City. WSJ’s Hannah Miao explains why Luckin’s tech-forward business model made it a winner in China, and whether Starbucks can fend off the competition by returning to its coffee house roots. Annie Minoff hosts. Further Listening: Fraud Rocks China's Hottest Coffee Startup The Inside Story of Starbucks's CEO Drama The Underdog Coffee Bean That's Making a Comeback Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am here in front of Luckin Coffee in Manhattan on Broadway.
Yesterday I went to check out one of the newest coffee spots in New York City.
It's called Luckin Coffee, and it's a giant coffee chain from China.
Out on the sidewalk, signs touted a special deal for first-time customers like me.
But there was a bit of a learning curve.
Looks like I need to download an app first,
so let me do that.
The only way to order at Luckin is through its app.
And they are saying that one of their best sellers
is this iced coconut latte, which, frankly,
sounds really good.
It is really hot out here today.
So let's do that.
The app flagged a coupon, which made my drink only $2.
All right, order received.
And I have a new coupon, actually.
Next drink is 40% off.
Within a minute or two, I got a ping that my order was ready.
I walked in, scanned my phone, and just like that, I was out the door.
Honestly, I'm not getting a ton of coffee flavor, but it's 95 degrees, it's cold, it's icy.
I don't hate it.
There are just two Luckin coffee shops in the US right now, both in Manhattan.
But the chain's proven that it can grow fast.
It took just six years for Luckin to become the top-selling coffee chain in China, dethroning
a coffee giant you're probably more familiar with, Starbucks. And now Luckin has arrived in the U.S. on Starbucks Home Turf.
Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power.
I'm Andi Minof.
It's Wednesday, July 30th. Coming up on the show, the competition brewing between Starbucks and Luckin' Coffee. Our colleague Hannah Miao has been writing about luck and coffee.
And she says the brand's meteoric rise in China might never have happened without Starbucks.
The American chain was instrumental in creating a coffee culture in the country.
Starbucks arrived in China in 1999.
It opened its first cafe in Beijing.
And this was before China was even part of the World Trade Organization.
So this was early days in terms of China's development.
And Starbucks really spread cafe culture in this country,
where tea is more so the traditional beverage of choice.
Chinese consumers embraced coffee. Tea is more so the traditional beverage of choice.
Chinese consumers embraced coffee.
And eventually a homegrown competitor to Starbucks emerged.
Luckin.
The chain's Chinese name roughly translates to auspicious luck.
It was 2017 and these entrepreneurs from a ride-hailing company decided to start Luckin
to challenge Starbucks.
If you go back and look at some of the press
from the early days, there was an interview
that one of the founders, Jenny Qian,
did with Chinese state media.
And they basically said,
the Chinese market isn't only gonna have Starbucks,
we should have our own coffee brand.
And Luckins founders being kind of tech people
brought a techie twist to the Starbucks business model.
Exactly.
They built everything around a mobile app.
And their idea was to have these really efficient stores
where you can order your coffee on this app,
pick it up and go. And also they integrated coffee delivery pretty early
on. So their pitch was that you should get your cup of coffee delivered in less
than half an hour.
Luckin wanted to be fast, efficient, and with the help of a ton of coupons, cheap.
One of the brand's key strategies for growth is luring in new customers with all kinds
of discounts.
And they're using the same playbook in New York.
After I grabbed my coffee, I ran into a group of women leaving the store with their drinks.
What brought you all to Luckin today?
Her.
She went out. Guys, I put them on to a deal.
And I think they came from like China or something.
So now they're doing a lot of promotions to like promote the drinks.
So we came here to get the deals.
What was the deal?
$2 for a drink and like that compared to like we're in the city.
So like $2 for a drink is crazy.
And the coupons don't stop there.
After your first order, the app gives you another coupon,
and then another coupon.
It's kind of like a tech forward update
of the old like coffee punch card,
like buy 10, get one free.
Exactly, exactly.
But you don't even have to really spend a lot
to get a reward.
You don't even have to get spend a lot to get a reward.
You don't even have to get 10.
It feels almost gamified.
It really draws you in and you feel kind of addicted to getting more coupons.
It's the bread and butter of what Luckin does in China and not just Luckin, lots of other e-commerce slash food delivery platforms.
In China, this formula seemed to work for Luckin.
They just developed super quickly,
opened up thousands of stores,
and went public in less than two years.
So it was a really enormous, rapid ascent for this company.
But Luckin's rise wasn't all that it seemed.
So Luckin Coffee is that Chinese company
that was supposed to be a Starbucks killer.
It turned out the COO fabricated around $300 million
worth of sales last year.
In 2020, a major accounting scandal
brought Luckin's momentum to a screeching halt.
Basically, Luckin had to disclose that more than $300 million of sales were faked.
Whoa.
And it was a big deal because Luckin had this really buzzy IPO.
It listed on the Nasdaq. And basically this, the revelation of the accounting scandal forced it to delist from the Nasdaq.
It eventually filed for bankruptcy.
Luckin removed its chairman and CEO and paid a $180 million settlement.
But the company stuck it out.
Its new CEO would later tell the Journal that Luckin was trying to redeem itself. $180 million settlement. But the company stuck it out.
Its new CEO would later tell the Journal that Luckin was trying to redeem itself.
And not just for its own sake.
He said they were trying to repair the reputation of Chinese companies.
That's how bad the Luckin scandal was.
And it worked.
Luckin staged a comeback.
By 2023, it had surpassed Starbucks as the top-selling coffee chain in China.
And by 2024, Starbucks market share in China was just 14%, according to Bernstein Research.
And it had been more than 40% when Luckin had just started in 2017.
So this company really came back from the dead,
and not only that, then superseded Starbucks in China.
Exactly, exactly.
It's almost like a cat who has nine lives or something,
like you can't get rid of it.
Starbucks cannot get rid of this rival
that's just coming for it.
And now that rival could be coming for Starbucks in the US.
That's next. L'chaim is arriving in the US at a tough time for Starbucks.
Starbucks, of course, achieved ubiquity in the US by bringing premium coffee to the masses.
But it wasn't just about what was in your cup.
Starbucks appeal also had to do with its vibe.
Starbucks pitched itself as a place to settle down
in a comfy chair to read, work, or chat with friends.
What we're selling as a company is much more
than a cup of coffee.
Here's Starbucks then CEO Howard Schultz.
I think coffee is a great conduit to conversation and social interaction.
And we have tried to build our stores in a way that invites people not only to take the
coffee to go, but to stay.
But lately, the vibes at Starbucks have been a little off.
One major pain point has been mobile ordering.
Mobile orders are a crucial part of Starbucks' business.
More than 30% of its pickup orders are placed digitally.
But also?
Mobile ordering can get quite messy at Starbucks because the workers in the cafes are trying
to manage the in-person orders and also mobile pickup orders and potentially also drive-through orders.
So there's just a lot going on.
The former CEO, Howard Schultz, described as potentially
a mosh pit at some points when all the mobile orders come in.
Starbucks also offers customers a lot of options
to customize their drinks,
which can lead to longer wait times.
You can do like caramel, frappuccino, low ice foam, you know, dairy-free milk.
You know, there's just a lot of factors.
And when the workers are kind of trying to do all that customization
while also taking orders from people inside the cafe. It can create this jam of a situation.
And even as the customer experience at Starbucks has gotten worse,
those drinks are still relatively pricey.
Starbucks is trying to maintain that higher pricing for the premium customer.
And this can create issues for customers
when they feel like, you know,
this cup of coffee is costing six to $8.
What is the premium experience in that?
And what does all of this meant for Starbucks bottom line?
It's been a bit of a rough period for Starbucks.
It's reported several consecutive quarters of same store sales declines.
They poached the CEO of Chipotle and put in a new CEO to try to turn around the business.
That new CEO, Brian Nicol, wants to go back to basics.
He's focused on bringing back that classic coffeehouse vibe.
And he's planning to shutter dozens of Starbucks locations that only handle mobile pickup orders.
On an earnings call on Tuesday, he called those mobile-only stores, quote, overly transactional
and lacking the warmth and human connection that defines our brand.
It does sound like kind of a lot of the things that Starbucks has struggled with
are strengths for Luckin. I mean, Luckin has figured out mobile ordering.
Luckin embraces the grab-and-go model. Is that in their favor?
I think it can be a big strength here if you have Starbucks customers who are wanting more of that quick, efficient, low-cost experience.
And so we'll kind of see how it plays out.
I mean, what we've known about the U.S. economy for some time now is that it's the higher-end customers, higher-income segments of the population that continue to spend and power the economy.
that it's the higher end customers, higher income segments of the population that continue to spend and power the economy.
So that could be an advantage for Starbucks model with more of the premium pricing.
But you do also have lots of people who are sick of paying so much money for everyday
things.
So that could play in Luckins favor as well.
In a statement, Starbucks said that the company is doubling down on what customers love.
Quote, a warm and welcoming coffee house with high quality beverages crafted by a skilled
barista.
So it seems like they're trying to draw that contrast with some of the strategy that Luckin
is employing.
And the size of Starbucks in the US cannot be overstated. It's
huge. It's 17,000 stores nationwide. So Luckin with its two stores is really just cracking into
the US market. So they're not shaking in their boots yet. I don't think they're concerned that Luckin is gonna overnight overtake them in this market.
I mean, it's Starbucks home market. They've been here forever.
But I don't think they would count Luckin out.
I mean, Luckin again was this plucky startup in China when it first started and within
years it beat Starbucks in China.
So there is something to be said about Luckin's ability to really rapidly grab market share.
And is that Luckin's plan in the US to rapidly grab market share? What has Luckin said about that?
It hasn't said much about its overall plans, but there are some clues. So when Luckin launched its first two stores, they did post on Instagram saying that this is just the beginning. So we can expect to see more in New York and the US.
And also in the stores themselves,
they have a store number in each store
in the corner of the counter.
And it doesn't just say one or two,
it says 00001, zero, zero, one, and zero, zero, zero, zero, two.
Huh.
So that could be a hint, that could be a hint that Luckin is looking to open more stores
and fill up all those zeros in the U.S.
This morning on an earnings call, Luckin called the opening of its first two U.S. stores
a significant milestone.
It said the company is taking a disciplined and deliberate approach to the U.S. market.
That's all for today, Wednesday, July 30th.
The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and The Wall Street Journal.
Additional reporting in today's episode by Heather Haddon.
Thanks for listening.
See you tomorrow.