The Journal. - The Chip Business Is Booming. Why Isn’t Intel?

Episode Date: December 16, 2024

Intel—the company whose chips were “inside” your ‘90s desktops—has fallen behind in recent years. Now, the CEO hired to turn things around is suddenly out. WSJ’s Asa Fitch explains how the... once-dominant chip brand lost its edge. Further Reading: - He Was Going to Save Intel. He Destroyed $150 Billion of Value Instead.  - Intel Co-CEOs Outline Strategy Following Pat Gelsinger’s Ouster  Further Listening: - America’s Answer to the Chip Shortage  - Why Washington Went to Wall Street to Revive the Chips Industry  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 My colleague Asa Fitch covers a product that's often invisible to the naked eye, but critical to almost everything we do. Chips. Those tiny, intricate slices of silicon. Asa calls them the engines of modern life. Just think about the 80s and the 90s. There were PCs and they had chips. And then there was the smartphone revolution.
Starting point is 00:00:41 And then everybody's carrying a smartphone with chips in the smartphone. And you had cloud computing, these massive data centers, and then everybody's carrying smartphone with chips in the smartphone. And you had cloud computing, these massive data centers, and they had chips. And of course, now you have AI, and AI sort of runs on chips. So every time that society has advanced, the answer has been, we need some more chips for that. That's been a boon for the companies that make chips. Companies like TSMC, or Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, and Samsung.
Starting point is 00:01:12 The chipmaker Nvidia is currently one of the most valuable companies in the world, worth over $3 trillion. But there's one company that's conspicuously missing from that list of winners. The storied American chip maker, Intel. Intel's stock has fallen over 50% this year. It's laid off thousands of employees. And last month, it was bumped from the Dow Jones Industrial Average and replaced by Nvidia. Intel's been in the Dow for 25 years.
Starting point is 00:01:44 What a knock for Intel. Why is Intel struggling so much? It's a long story. You could argue it's a tale of hubris, of excessive confidence. It's a tale of rigidity and a lack of flexibility that often large corporations have to contend with. Welcome to The Journal,
Starting point is 00:02:13 our show about money, business, and power. I'm Jessica Mendoza. It's Monday, December 16th. Coming up on the show, how Intel lost its edge. Public speaking, the list of fears is endless. But the real danger is in your hand when you're behind the wheel. Distracted driving is what's really scary and even deadly. Eyes forward, don't drive distracted. Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council. From the 1980s through the early 2000s, Intel was everywhere. through the early 2000s, Intel was everywhere. The company became this dominant force
Starting point is 00:03:07 with the rise of the personal computer. Everybody needed a computer in their house. Eventually, laptops came along as well. Most of them, almost all of them, had Intel chips inside of them. Intel both designed and manufactured its chips, called CPUs. And it sold them to computer makers like Dell, IBM, and Apple.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Pretty much every major computer maker in that era used Intel chips. There was that famous marketing campaign, of course, Intel Inside. It's like the sticker on the bottom corner of your laptop or your computer or something would say, yeah, Intel inside in blue. Right. Exactly. And it was a bonanza for a long time. And then, perhaps because of that success, Asa says Intel started to slip.
Starting point is 00:04:02 If you're a dominant player and you're just raking in the money, it's a little bit easier to not be serious about shaking things up. And it goes to the sort of the quote unquote innovator's dilemma, essentially, where a company becomes a powerful player in one area and then struggles to dominate or make a name for itself in one area, and then struggles to dominate or make a name for itself in another area. One important area that Intel missed out on was the mobile phone boom in the 2010s. Phones, of course, also need chips, but by the time Intel started making chips for phones
Starting point is 00:04:41 in a serious way, other companies already dominated. And mobile wasn't the only trend that passed Intel by. Asa says, it also missed out on a pretty big shift in how chips are made. Remember, Intel had always designed and manufactured its own chips. But increasingly, companies specialized. Some companies just designed chips. Nvidia is one of these. Other companies just manufactured chips, like the Taiwanese company, TSMC. So, for example, Nvidia designed chips and then
Starting point is 00:05:16 hired TSMC to make them. And TSMC had become extremely successful in this world, was building a growing business around it. Intel, of course, saw that happening, but Intel decided to stick to its guns and not to kind of bifurcate itself in the same way the industry is going. They said essentially, no, we don't want to do that. Instead of specializing, Intel dug in and slipped further behind. You know, the company tries to make the most advanced chips in the world.
Starting point is 00:05:54 What that means is like, you know, when you have a chip, it's a piece of silicon. And upon that silicon, they etch billions upon billions of transistors. And so you might ask, okay, well, what makes one chip better than another? And upon that silicon, they etch billions upon billions of transistors. And so you might ask, okay, well, what makes one chip better than another? The answer is basically you're able to pack more transistors in that small space. That's very important in the chip world. It's like the most important thing. If you can have a lot of transistors, it means you can do a lot of transistors. Intel kind of lost its way in that race and just started to fall behind these contract chip makers like TSMC in making the most advanced chips.
Starting point is 00:06:51 By 2019, things were not going well for the company. That was very clear. There was a sense within the company that, you know, Intel had already sort of lost its glory, its glory days were over, and the mission was to kind of bring it back. And that's the context into which Pat Gelsinger arrives. Pat Gelsinger, Intel's man with a plan. That's next. Who is Pat Gelsinger? So Pat Gelsinger is Intel's first chief technology officer, first CTO.
Starting point is 00:07:55 He's a guy who was sort of born and bred Intel. Pat Gelsinger grew up in rural Pennsylvania. He was a farm boy with an associate's degree from a local technical college. But as Gelsinger explained in an oral history, at age 18, his life changed. Intel came recruiting and invited him out to company headquarters for an interview. So, you know, here I am, 18 years old. I've never been on an airplane, and I'm being given a free trip to California. According to one Intel interviewer, Gelsinger was, quote, I've never been on an airplane and I'm being given a free trip to California.
Starting point is 00:08:25 According to one Intel interviewer, Gelsinger was, quote, smart, aggressive, arrogant. He'll fit right in. Gelsinger would spend the next three decades of his career at Intel. You know, when you talk about Intel inside that marketing campaign in the 90s, those chips that were going to those computers were in large part, you know, thanks to Pat Gelsinger. marketing campaign in the 90s. around. Gelsinger's plan to do that was bold and risky. Intel would keep designing and making its chips like it always had, but it would also start manufacturing chips for outside customers.
Starting point is 00:09:16 It would directly take on chip manufacturers like TSMC. They were going to go full steam ahead, create this contract chipmaking business within Intel, and use that to fill up its factories and do more manufacturing basically and make more money. And as part of that, Intel was going to expand its factory footprint, just build more factories. Those factories don't come cheap, by the way. Gelsinger's plan was projected to cost over $100 billion in coming years.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Even with outside investment and government money from the CHIPS Act, it would be a hefty bill. The problem in the CHIP industry is that you have to make decisions today about what you're going to need several years from now, even five, ten years from now. Gelsinger had to essentially predict many years in advance what the demand might be for these chips and build those factories accordingly. Yeah, you're betting.
Starting point is 00:10:21 You're betting. It's fundamentally a bet. Yeah, you're betting. contract shipmaking business. The big customers for the contract shipmaking business are Apple, Nvidia of course, Qualcomm, there are some others. But Intel had this internal goal that they were going to be the second largest contract shipmaker in the world by 2030. It's almost 2025 and the amount of major customers that Intel was getting in the door by 2030. And you know, it's almost 2025. And the amount of major customers that Intel was getting in the door was just, you know, it wasn't huge. Chip designers were hesitant to jump manufacturers, especially since Intel didn't have a history as a contract chip maker.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And Intel also had a culture issue. Contract chip making is really a customer service business. If your customer wants something, you bend over backwards to make it happen for them. Right. For Intel, they hadn't really been like that. I mean, their customer had been just Intel. They didn't really have that experience, like dealing with those kinds of customers,
Starting point is 00:11:41 meant that it was just a little bit more difficult to get that business started. All of this would have been challenging enough, even if the chip industry had stayed relatively stable. But just a year into Gelsinger's massive turnaround effort, one viral product changed everything. Basically, it's ChatGPT. ChatGPT came along, and that leads to a flurry of interest and investment in generative AI, people developing these big AI models. And that in turn leads to huge investments in chips that are needed to build these kinds
Starting point is 00:12:21 of models. And those chips are made almost entirely by NVIDIA. Intel made its name with CPUs, but NVIDIA has always specialized in designing a different kind of chip called a GPU. It stands for Graphics Processing Unit. GPUs were originally designed to handle the complex graphics in video games.
Starting point is 00:12:42 But over the past decade or so, AI researchers discovered another use for them, as the brains of AI. If you want to train or run an AI model, you need a lot of GPUs. And NVIDIA had a huge head start on everyone, including Intel. After ChatGPT came out,
Starting point is 00:13:00 demand for NVIDIA's chips exploded, and it's kept up ever since. came out, demand for NVIDIA's chips exploded. And it's kept up ever since. So that was a huge, huge challenge for Intel. When the AI boom really took hold, everything was going to AI chips. And a significantly less amount of money was going to Intel's chips. So there was this dramatic shift that really hurt Intel financially at a time when the company really just needed
Starting point is 00:13:30 money to build these huge factories that cost billions upon billions of dollars and execute this turnaround plan that Pat had concocted. So it really could not have come at a worse time for Intel. Intel was burning through cash to get its chip-making business off the ground. And with the AI boom cutting into its sales, it was cash the company increasingly didn't have.
Starting point is 00:13:53 So Gelsinger and his team economized. Intel laid off thousands of staff and suspended its dividend. It cut billions of dollars in costs. But the fundamental picture didn't change. Since Gelsinger took the helm, Intel's stock has lost 60% of its value. Its sales have plummeted, and in October, the company posted the biggest quarterly loss
Starting point is 00:14:15 in its history. Then, last week. Intel just moments ago announcing that CEO Pat Gelsinger retired effective yesterday. Pat Gelsinger is retiring from the Santa Clara company. He stepped down from the board of directors effective immediately. According to someone familiar with what happened? It was retirement, but the circumstances were that the board gave him the option to retire or be removed, and he chose to retire.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And what was the reaction in your world to that news? You know, many people were surprised by Gelsinger being ousted because, you know, this is a very ambitious turnaround plan. The company had already invested a lot of resources in making the turnaround work. Intel has been on successive rounds of cost cutting for the past couple of years at this point. They've done layoffs, they've cut costs wherever they
Starting point is 00:15:11 can and all of that has been in service of making this plan work. And so there's a lot of surprise actually that at this juncture Gelsinger would be ousted. But I think the board just sort of lost confidence in the plan and the speed at which it was going and the results from it. In a statement, Gelsinger said that leading Intel has been, quote, the honor of my lifetime. He called his departure bittersweet.
Starting point is 00:15:41 An Intel spokesman said the changes the company had made over the past few years had revitalized its chip technology and laid the groundwork for the company's future. Asa says that Intel may ultimately stick with Gelsinger's turnaround strategy, just under a new chief executive. Last week, the company's interim CEOs said Intel is still highly invested in building out a contract chipmaking business. Looking at sort of Intel's journey here, when we think about other sort of storied
Starting point is 00:16:14 American companies that might be watching, what would you say is the cautionary tale here? It's hard to know how this period of the company's history will be seen, but it may be that it's seen as no CEO could have turned around Intel. But if somebody could have, it would have been Pat Gelsinger, and this would have been the plan. It just didn't work out. And maybe the history shows that in the final analysis, that if Intel were to be set right again,
Starting point is 00:16:45 it would have had to have happened a long time before Pat Gelsinger took over as CEO. When you get that big, it's harder to, as Lou Gerstner wrote in his book about IBM, make elephants dance, if you will, That's all for today, Monday, December 16th. The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and The Wall Street Journal. Additional reporting in this episode by Ben Cohen. Thanks for listening. See you tomorrow.

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