The Keith Edwards Show - Mary Trump Exposes Trump Family Secrets in Exclusive Interview
Episode Date: September 8, 2025Subscribe to Mary Trump here on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MaryTrumpMediaKeith Edwards interviews Mary Trump in a fiery sit-down where she exposes disturbing Trump family secrets long kept hidd...en from the public. From Don Jr. and Eric’s behind-the-scenes behavior to jaw-dropping revelations about Donald himself, Mary pulls no punches—leaving nothing off the table.Become a Member: https://www.youtube.com/@keithedwards/joinSubscribe to my Substack: http://keithedwards.substack.comBuy a Democracy Hat: https://keithsdebateclub.com/products/democracy-hatCall me and ask a question or leave a comment: (202) 810-4379Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thekeithedwardsshow/Follow me on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/keithedwards.bsky.socialFollow me on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@keithedwardsFollow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keithedwards/Follow me on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@keithedwardsFollow me on X: http://twitter.com/keithedwards
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Well, I'm very excited about this because I, frankly, is one of those moments.
I'm like, I can't believe this is happening because Mary Trump has spent the last several
years trying to take down her uncle Donald Trump.
She's the first member of the family to publicly break ranks using her books, interviews,
and platforms to expose him as unfit for office and the danger to democracy that we all know
him to be.
And I'm so grateful to say this, that she's a guest on today's show.
She's joining me for a conversation that's as cutting as it is fun.
We talk about why she insists on calling Donald Trump Donald, who she thinks the stupidest Trump of them all is.
And yes, even a mashed potato story that had me seriously considering whether mashed potato merch should exist.
Like, should I make a mashed potato t-shirt?
Anyways, here she is, Mary Trump.
Mary Trump.
Thank you so much for joining.
I have so much I want to ask you.
But I guess my first question is, how are you doing?
You know, there was a time when nobody was allowed to ask me that question
because I just didn't have an answer that I would want to share.
But honestly, I'm doing well.
I think it took me a long time to figure this out
because the events of the last 10 years have been so incredibly
overwhelming and I got so sucked in to the chaos and the fact that something some new horror
seemed to be happening on a daily basis that I had a really difficult time separating the personal
from what was going on to the world because it is personal for me in ways that it may not be
for other people but then there's also like having a life so I finally decided that I needed
to start doing that and it's just amazing how that helps
withstand the onslaught of horror and chaos that's coming out of the Trump regime.
I mean, that's something we talk about here all the time on the channel.
So you're saying that community, like, just like your own, whatever that looks like,
your friend group or close family is really helping you through this second Trump wave
or Donald wave.
Yeah, yeah.
Yes, and I appreciate it, the Donald wave.
for reasons we'll probably talk about that's important yeah and it's funny because for a few years now
like I've been urging people you know to stay connected to your communities do think just tap out if
you need to go to museums go for walks in the forest go to the beach read a book write a poem
and I wasn't taking any of that advice myself and once I started to it really it does
does make it so much easier.
Not that it's easy, but it takes less of its whole because, you know, we're in this all
the time.
And if you don't have separation, it just wears on you in a way that is not healthy.
And we all need to be at our best because this is a long, long term battle we're engaged
in right now.
Yeah, I mean, this certainly, yeah, I mean, it is a marathon.
And I mean, that's something I actually, I mean, you're telling me, you're saying to me
something that I really need to do for myself is I am I'm quite off to just steeped in this and I don't
take much time off from it except for maybe I don't know how what you do but I'll play video games
occasionally and just like try to zone out that way but but it is also all consuming because it is
just there's a relentlessness to him that I think that I think is intentional that makes us want
to just check out but I do think it if you can take time out
Now, for yourself, when you want to, not because you're, not because of anything Donald is doing,
but because of your own, you want to take care of your own mental health.
I think that's really important.
And we need you to do it because we need everyone in this fight and we need you to be strong
and rested in order to be able to show up in the way that we need.
Yeah.
And I think it's really important just to remember that there are a lot of.
of us and the whole the resistance isn't going to fall apart if you take a night off it's not we're
all here uh and nobody's going anywhere but yes we really need to take care of ourselves now i guess
like was was donald always like like was he like this growing like was the relentlessness the thing
uh like as as you knew him growing up or is this has it gotten worse as he's
John Nolder or any insight on that?
Yeah, I mean, he was always, he's exactly the same person that he's been, certainly since I knew him, certainly since he was a young kid.
My dad had a nickname for Donald that he gave him when Donald was still in like middle school.
He called him the great I am.
And yes, there was always a relentlessness to him.
He never, he never knew where the line was.
So he was always crossing lines.
he never knew how to treat people
and he did believe,
thanks in large part to my grandfather,
that he was the most important person
in any room he was in or in the world.
What I've noticed, though,
is the relentlessness is getting more intense
and I honestly think that's a function of his desperation.
We've seen that he's been making mention
of his mortality, which is kind of shocking to me, because Donald is somebody who doesn't believe
that anything can exist beyond him. So it's sort of like this unconscious terror is starting
to break through. And I think that's a large part of this just insane intensity of the news
cycle lately, the increasingly blatant and violent incursions into American life against American
state sovereignty, against immigrants, et cetera. And I think it's definitely a sign, one, that he's
becoming aware in ways he never has been, that he's losing control of the narrative, and that he may not be as
he may not be as invulnerable as he's convinced himself he is.
And his insight, I think he's getting a little bit of insight into the fact that he's kind of old
and maybe doesn't have the same sway with people that he wants it.
Two things about that.
One, I think it's one way in which we can make him a lame duck president.
president is by, I mean, they're trying to pretend like there's going to be a third term and a fourth
term. It's just never going to be ending. Most presidents, all presidents, since I've been alive,
if they have a second term, that's the last one. They're lame duck, right? And so I think this is
one way that we can make him the lame duck president and who doesn't want to be is just reminding
him and everyone else that there's a human condition that we all experience eventually that
he will succumb to as well
and he's he's just physically
not he's just
you can tell there's like he's just physically
decomposing in front
of our eyes
but there's also
it's just he's also
he is also just like whittling
he's whittling you know
and I and I don't know
if you have any insight but
certainly as an outsider
you can just like look at old clips
of Donald Trump even
four years ago, there's been a huge change in not only how he appears, but just his ability
to speak coherently. Yeah. Yeah, it's alarming. And there are a couple of ways to look at it.
One is anybody under the kinds of stress he's been under the last 10 years is going to suffer for
it. It's debilitating to be under the stress. Even if, yes, he was.
won in 2024, but that did it not make his problems go away, quite frankly.
Because his problems aren't about how much money has or how much power he has.
He's somebody who has severe undiagnosed and therefore untreated psychiatric disorders
that have gone undiagnosed and untreated for decades.
So those conditions, if you have any condition, whether it's depression or pneumonia,
and you don't treat it, they get worse.
So all his psychological health, to the extent he ever had any, is continuing to deteriorate.
And now, of course, it seems pretty obvious that there are some physical issues going on
and the degree to which they're contributing to what seemed to be some neurological issues is
unclear because they're, of course, not telling us the truth about anything.
but this is he is the same person
but in a much degraded state
and in a state that's degrading at an increasing clip.
So I was told that you do not like to refer to
the president as Trump.
You like to refer to him as Donald.
And I guess it's because it's, I mean,
you share a last name and I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
You said the same last name.
That must be hard.
But I actually just wondering,
like, do you ever get sick of having to think about him
or like talk about him.
Yes.
Yeah?
Oh my goodness.
It's been like how I don't know how long you've been in the public eye now,
but it must be just like I've been doing this YouTube stuff for like a year now.
And when he won, I was like, I cannot believe we have to do this again.
But I can't only imagine what it's like for you.
Somebody, it's been since my first book came out in July of 2020.
So it's been a little over five years, which seems like an eternity, quite frankly.
but also like I've known him forever and I was sick of him before this.
So to have to be a position.
And look, I'm not,
I'm not complaining because I feel like I am in a very privileged position to have the kinds
of insights that I can provide and.
Mary, you can complain.
You can complain.
I'll get to that.
I will complain.
I promise.
No, but seriously, like I, I mean, I don't have to do this, but I do feel obligated to.
and I feel lucky to be in a position to be able to.
All of that having been said, yeah, I'm fucking sick of it.
Because I really, when I'm sorry if I swore, I probably shouldn't have swear.
Oh my God, we swear all the time.
This is a pro fuck channel.
Fuck it then.
I'm going to keep swearing because how can we not swear under those circumstances?
Because I was asked a few times in advance of the 2024 election, you know, what are you going to talk about?
Like, what do you mean?
What am I going to talk about?
I will never mention Donald Trump again, and I will start holding Democrats feet to the fire
and making sure that the Democratic Party gets serious about turning America into an actual
representative democracy that treats all people equally.
How's that?
How's that for a conversation we should be having?
But instead, yeah, here we are.
And I was talking to today, one of the things I most resent about Donald besides the fact
that we have to talk about him because he's president of the United States is all of the people
he surrounded himself with like the worst of the worst, the stupidest, the most corrupt,
the most fascistic. And we have to talk about them too. You know, the Stephen Miller's,
my idiotic cousins, the insane Islamophob, Laura Lumer, these are all people that we need to pay
attention to because he has given them access to the levers of power. So, yeah,
I kind of resent all of it, but I also know, though, that he hates being called Donald.
And it's, you know, if it's one thing I can do to get under his skin, so be it.
And the truth of the matter is, I've always called him that.
Like, what else am I going to call him?
In my family, my, the oldest, Marianne was Aunt Marianne.
My dad, the oldest son was Uncle Freddie.
And then the other three, we only ever called them by their first names, Donald, Elizabeth, and Robert.
So am I all of a sudden going to start calling him Mr. Trump or something?
That would be weird.
And I refuse to use the title because he's disgraced the presidency more than anybody in human history.
So I just urge everybody.
And also, again, it's weird to call my uncle by a last name we share.
And the other thing, too, when I was a kid, my name, like nobody called me Mary.
Everybody called me Trump.
So it's kind of my name.
Oh, yeah, it is 100% your name.
I'm sorry, you share it with him.
So Donald Trump, whether he likes or not, will not be in power forever.
And we are hearing now, there's rumbles of like Eric Trump thinking about running, John Jr.
I know, I know.
I think one of them will.
I hope so.
If you could help us out, make discern for us.
Who is the stupider of the two?
Donnie.
Donnie?
Hans down.
Oh my God.
They were instantaneous.
Why?
Just really?
I mean, I know it's a close call, clearly, because neither one of them is.
To say they're not the sharpest tool in the box is an insult to blunt tools, quite frankly.
They are dim-witted and uneducated people.
Don, do you think Donnie is, he just always looks like he has to work so hard to
put a sentence together.
And he just doesn't, he doesn't know anything.
I'm not saying Eric is, is much better.
I'm not, but, you know, and I didn't, I can't pretend that I spent a lot of time with them.
I'm much older than they are.
So we were like different generations of grandchildren.
Donnie's 12 years younger.
And I think Eric is like more than 16 years younger than I am.
So, you know, we, I saw them obviously at holidays and stuff.
So I watched them grow up a little bit.
But it was always.
was pretty clear to me that Donnie was operating at a significant disadvantage from his other
siblings. That's incredible. And I was told, I was told to ask you, and I don't know this story,
but I was told to ask about a mashed potato story. Can you, can you help me out? What is the
mashed potato story? I can help you out here. It's one of my favorite stories. It's probably the
only good story to come from my family. As I mentioned, Donald was one of five. My dad was the
oldest son and my dad was about eight years older than Donald. So my dad was about 14, 13 or 14,
and Donald was five or six. And he was tormenting their little brother, Robert, who was a year
and a half younger, tormenting him. It was like his favorite thing to do. So Robert is hysterical,
screaming, sobbing, won't shut up. And Donald, no matter what anybody said to him,
wouldn't stop tormenting him.
So my grandmother is trying to get dinner ready for her five children,
her husband who's coming home and her mother-in-law,
and she can't get him to listen to her.
So she's getting frustrated.
Everybody's getting frustrated.
My grandmother comes out with a huge bowl of mashed potatoes,
sits it down on the table,
goes back into the kitchen,
and my dad,
who was a gentle person and didn't want to do anything to hurt Donald,
but also desperately wanted him to shut the fuck up,
picked up the bowl of mashed potatoes,
and dumped it on Donald's head,
at which point everybody laughed at him,
and Donald finally shut up.
Oh, my God.
We just need mashed potatoes.
That's the solution.
This was always what I thought.
Anybody going to a rally,
put a thing of mashed potatoes
or carry a box of mashed potato flakes with you or something.
because my aunt Marianne, after my dad died in 1981, once or twice a year, Thanksgiving or Christmas,
Marianne would tell the mashed potato story. The last time I was with them was in 2017. I was in the White House,
unbelievably enough, because my Aunt Marianne and Elizabeth were celebrating their birthdays at the White House.
So we're all invited. She tells the mashed potato story at dinner in the residential dining room.
And Donald acted the same way he did as he had every single time she told that story over the last four decades.
He sat there like this and he pouted like a toddler.
He can't handle it.
He hates the mashed potato story so much.
And Marianne did it intentionally to annoy him.
So the good news is we have a weapon.
The bad news is I'm kind of not kidding here.
I think that's kind of what kicked all of it off because ever since then,
Donald has been terrified of being humiliated, and he has made it one of his admissions in life
to humiliate other people.
So here we are.
Well, it's actually really interesting that the thing that he's afraid of the most, he does
every, like I think he's constantly humiliating himself, but he's also created this life where
he is surrounded by people who don't care.
But I mean, I don't know if you saw the picture of his hair from when he was gone for nine
days or however long that was and it came back. And it was just a greasy, sloppy, it looked
like hospital bedhead. But it to me was like, but it was also to me a clear sign that he
surrounded himself with people that don't really care about him at all. Nobody cares about him.
And if he weren't such a cruel, despicable person, we could feel bad about him. I mean,
bad for him and have some compassion, but he doesn't deserve compassion. But it is, I think, a
testament to what a terrible life he's led, there is literally nobody on this planet who cares
about him legitimately. Everything's transactional. Is that including Melania?
Yes, I saw Melania made an appearance to educate us about AI. And my first thought was,
oh, wow, I guess you got a pay raise because she had to make another public appearance.
Oh, my God. Also, I mean, Melania probably using AI all the time. I don't know if you've read her
statements recently, but it's, it feels very chat GPT to me, to me. And she, she's known,
I mean, at least she doesn't plagiarize anymore. She just uses the plagiarism machine.
Exactly. So I guess that's better. I'm not sure. Well, Mary, where can folks find you? I know you
have a channel here. You have an incredibly successful substack. Well, those are the two main places,
actually. Yep, it's Mary Trump Media on YouTube. And my substack is called The Good in Us.
So check out both of those things.
I have a live show Monday through Friday at 6 p.m. Eastern, and I do and Ask Me Anything show on
Sundays at 6.
And we have videos dropping at least two or three times a day.
So, yeah, it would be awesome if everybody checked those out and, of course, went over to
the sub-sac as well.
Awesome.
Well, I will link those below for anyone who wants to check it out.
And I really do appreciate you taking out the time to be here and sharing some stories.
And I hope you can come back.
Keith, thanks. This is a blast. It was so great to meet you finally. Thanks.
