The Kevin Sheehan Show - A JD5 Return Hunch

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

Kevin opened the show with his two primary concerns when it comes to Marcus Mariota as a long-term starter and his hunch on when Jayden will return this year. ESPN's Brady Henderson who covers the Seahawks joined Kevin to talk about the match-up Sunday in Landover. Steve Czaban joined the show as well for the initial installment of their "My Bookie Crossover". Exclusive High Roller bonus designed for bettors who want more firepower for this season. Double your money all the way up to $5000. Minimum deposit $1500. Use my promo code “DCVIP” at https://www.mybookie.ag/signup/?affid=3910. Download the app today and use code SHEEHAN to get $150 instantly in Lineups if you win your first $5 Lineup! “PrizePicks. Run Your Game.” Join Thrive Market today during their 25% off Healthy Reset Sale now through September 19th! PLUSget $30 off your first 2 orders when you use my link ThriveMarket.com/sheehan. Join the millions who are already banking fee free with America’s #1 Choice forBanking. Head to Chime.com/sheehan. If you want to try Momentous Signature Spec Creatine, head to livemomentous.com and use codeSHEEHAN for up to 35% off your entire first order. Get 20% off your first order at www.FastGrowingTrees.com with code [Sheehan]. For the best tacos in the DMV eat https://surfsidedc.com/.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it, but you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Sheehan Show. Here's Kevin. Two guest segments on today's show. Brady Henderson will join me. He covers the Seahawks for ESPN. And then Steve Zabin will join me in something we are calling the MyBooky crossover.

Zabe is also a MyBooky partner. And both of us are going to team up during football season to talk football, and I'm sure a lot more, and you'll hear the first installment of that today. We recorded it earlier, and I'll play it for you in the final segment of the show. The show's presenting sponsor is always, Window Nation. If you need new windows, 86690 Nation,

windownation.com. No smell test pick for tonight. I know some of you thought I would have the Falcons in the smell test. Believe it or not, there's not a lot of public action on Green Bay a little bit, but not overwhelmingly. There is some sharp money on Atlanta. I may actually play the Falcons myself, but it is not an official smell test selection. Tomorrow, I will have at least, I think, at least a dozen picks for the weekend.

The board looks good. I am 17, 6, and 1 so far this year. This from Sam, Sam writes, Kevin, kudos to you for finding Steve Souter. His straightforward film breakdown is the best I've seen, and that includes Cooley. Okay, maybe not Cooley, but I couldn't turn it off last night, and I had to let you know how great it was. Thank you for that, Sam. Yeah, Suter yesterday. First installment of the film breakdown doing the Dallas game.

He was really good. This from J.C. J.C. writes, Suter is the man. Taking notes, my boys and I started a text chain on what he says. And then I got this from E. in Gathersburg. E. writes, Kevin, I can't believe that I'm so mesmerized by everything that comes out of Steve Souter's mouth about our team and kudos to you for the chemistry you have with him and your other regulars.

Thank you for that. Yeah, he's really good. He's really, really good. Just don't tell Cooley, I said that. Chris is the goat when it comes to film breakdown. I'll never get off that. But he just doesn't watch a lot of football anymore. And I'm telling you, thank you to Matt Swope, the baseball coach.

at Maryland who listens to this show, he's the one that reached out to me last year, early in the season, and said, have you ever thought of using Steve Souter as a Cooley replacement for your film breakdown every week? And I said, well, why would I do that? He's just the Maryland analyst, and he was very good as a guest on the show whenever I would have him on. And he said, he's really into it. He's really good at it. I think he might be able to do it. Of course, last year he was brilliant doing it. We got him back doing it this year. And yesterday, if you missed it, it was a bit long, and he and I talked about it afterwards. We're going to try to keep it a little bit shorter, but there was a lot to talk about from that game Sunday. And I'll give you, you know,

I want you to go back and listen to it if you haven't listened to it. But I did think the most interesting thing other than the sequence at the end of the first half where he talked about Terry's drop on first and goal at the one, Jaden missing Diami Brown on second goal at the one. And then he does not believe Dan Quinn when Dan Quinn said the play was an option, you know, a Jaden sprint option with Rashad White as a pitch guy. And he went through all of the reasons why. That was incredibly interesting. But I thought that one of the more interesting things that he talked about was the running back situation, he is just not a Bill Kroski Merritt fan. He thinks Rashad White is the better back. And look, last year, he wasn't a big Bill fan either. He just wasn't. I think we saw some

things from Bill at the end of last year that would indicate that he's got the potential to be, you know, a thousand yard back. We haven't had one of those since Antonio Gibson. I don't think Steve sees it in Kroski Merritt at all. Something to keep an eye on. I did think when they signed Rashad White, that they did it because they felt like they needed an option for Kroski Merit and a veteran alternative because they wanted to make sure that they had somebody that could A, run the football, B, catch it, and C, block. And I think Kroski Merritt had some of those issues last year. Many rookie running backs do.

Anyway, thanks for those tweets and emails about Steve. I could have read those for 20 more minutes, and still I would have had some left. he is very good. Actually, I wanted to read this one. This from my guy, Bobby, in North Carolina. Souter was excellent. I think Marcus will be fine in Blow's offense, but it's a tough matchup this week for the offense. Yeah, Steve seems to be confident that Marcus, and he liked Marcus running the offense last year, he seems to think that Marcus is a really good backup quarterback, and, you know, of course, it's not going to be what Jaden Daniels is, but he thinks Marcus is a little bit more advanced as a passer, you know, and we'll hit some of the stuff that Blow wants him to hit maybe more often than Jaden Daniels does.

By the way, I want to talk about Marioada for a minute. And then I'm going to share my hunch as of today on what will happen with Jaden Daniels. So Mario da is, without question, a solid backup quarterback in the NFL. You know, and he's been, you know, a starter in the NFL, of course, as well. And the reason he has been a starter is that he can make every throw, he can see it, he can deliver it, and he can obviously play with his legs as a dual threat quarterback or off schedule as a passer. He does that very well. the two things over the years that have been issues for me when it comes to Mariotta. And they are the issues that I'm still concerned with as he takes over.

And the reasons, I just don't think that if he ends up starting and Jaden gets surgery, let's just say if he went and got surgery and missed the season, I just, I have a hard time believing that Marcus Mariotta starting, you know, at this point, 15 football games that you'd be able to get 10 out of the next 15 to get to the postseason, especially if your defense isn't really good. But the two things over the years that have been issues for him, as far as I'm concerned, number one is I think he's been too casual, you know, as a quarterback. And that's led to some problems for him.

And number two is he gets injured. Let's not forget about his injury history. on Jaden right now in his recent injury and his recent injury history, but Mariotas sprained his MCL during a preseason game against Miami, missed the rest of the preseason. At the end of last year, he injured his hand. Cost him what? The final two games where Josh Johnson played? I pulled up his entire career injury history. It's pretty extensive. I mean, pretty much every year he ends up with something. In 2015, his rookie year. He had an MCL sprain. It was a grade two. He missed four games that year. He had a fracture of his leg in

2016, and that was late in the season, cost him the whole offseason. 2017, he had a hamstring pool. He only missed one game that year. 2018, he had an arm elbow sprain, missed a game, missed two games that year with the arm elbow sprain and also a cervical neck stinger. I'm sorry, he missed three games in 2018. 2020, he was placed on IR with a peck strain, had a leg quad strain in 21 that cost him preseason games, and then a couple of games into the regular season. He did it again, and he was placed on injured reserve in 2021. 2022, he had a knee strain and missed the end of the season.

2024, when he got here before he ever played, he actually had a chest pectoral pool. And then he had the hand injury end of last year and the MCL knee sprain in the preseason this year. So, you know, number one with him over the course of the years is his availability has always been an issue. And then as good as he has been. been at times. And I do think some of those teams that he played for with Arthur Smith in particular, it was interesting to watch him as a dual threat quarterback. In Atlanta, the one season he had there, I thought he actually played pretty well. Remember his final game before he kind of went AWOL?

There's a whole story around that that I don't think has ever been told completely. But he came here on Thanksgiving weekend in the midst of a pretty good season. Atlanta, like Washington, this was 2022, was in playoff contention. He drove him down the field and remember the ball was tipped and picked in the end zone to end the game. Washington held on for the win. But I think there's just been a casualness to his game. And that's his personality.

a laid-back guy. He's always had enough talent, but he always seemed to be a guy who could win games, but not enough games, in part because he would make too many mistakes, and the mistakes always seemed like they were a result of being careless with the football or casual with the football. I look this up.

Mario da has 50 career fumbles in 105 games. So that's almost a fumble every other. game. In eight starts last year for Jaden Daniels, the ball hit the ground six times. He had six fumbles in eight games last year. He only lost three of them, but still, that is too much of putting the ball on the ground. Now, we don't have a choice for the next few games, and it could be a lot worse. I do think Marcus Mariotta is a good backup quarterback for Jaden Daniels, and I think he's probably in the top, you know, five to top 10 of backups in the league. There are a lot of pretty good backup situations in the last couple of years, but I think he's in the top 10,

worst case, top five best case. So they have a guy that can go in and he can run the offense. The offense can function. And if everybody else does their part and if the defense, you know, picks up some of the slack as well, you know, they're not going to be a terrible football team with him at quarterback. They weren't last year. You know, the offense was not the problem last year. If we were, you know, comparing the two sides of the football and saying which was worse, the defense was much worse.

Kingsbury with Marioota as the starter for the majority of the games last year still had the offense in the top half of the league in most, you know, advanced in traditional categories. So we'll see. I mean, Sunday's a tough matchup, as Bobby and North Carolina said. He's not wrong about that. Seattle is loaded on defense. And, you know, depending on who's healthy, I'd love to get Chig back, but it doesn't look like he practiced today. Louvo didn't practice today.

Kinlaw didn't practice. That defense is going to be a problem. This is going to be a big challenge for David Blow and Marcus Marriota. It would have been a big challenge with Jaden on the field Sunday against the Seahawks. All right. Speaking of Jaden, this is based on nothing, okay, that I know, nothing that I know. And as of this recording, there's been really no update on Jaden. I'm checking X right now just to make sure nothing's broken news-wise.

in the last, you know, 30 minutes. My hunch is that Jaden Daniels is coming back to play football this year with a brace, and it'll happen sooner than it did last year after the injury against Seattle. It's just a hunch. I'm not saying it's the right thing or the wrong thing, okay? I've said my piece on this. The long game answer would be if there's really risk, to him going out there with a brace,

then he should probably get the surgery. And then we know from 2027 on, the elbow's not going to be an issue. But if there isn't like a major risk and he can play with the brace, I'd like to see him play. I don't want his long term to be put at risk for this season

in which they are 0 and 2, and they could be 0, 3, 0, and 4. or one in three or one and four when he comes back. But my current hunch is he's going to wear a brace, he's going to play football, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's back when the team gets back from London playing Indianapolis, and he's ready to suit up and play against the Giants.

I think the other scenario, which is a good bet, too, is that he would come back after the bye week and be ready for Philadelphia on Sunday night football November 1st, which by the way, at this rate, could get flexed out of Sunday night if Washington doesn't win some games. And again, like I talked about yesterday, they could reassess at 1 in 5 or 0.6 or 1 in 4 or 0.5 if the plan was to brace it up and play and say it's probably not worth it because we can't go have. a season that will result in playoff contention. Now, you know, I know that some of you might say that should not be part of the conversation.

I'm not saying it should or shouldn't. I have a feeling it might be, though, but that is only if there's true serious consequences to him playing with a brace. The orthopedic surgeon that I had on the other day said, he's more susceptible. And a brace isn't going to prevent it completely. It will protect him. It will make the chances of another dislocation less than not wearing the brace.

But he's already now susceptible to another elbow dislocation. And he did say the risk is it's not that, you know, he's never going to play football again if he gets another elbow dislocation. But it would be that the surgery could potentially be more complex. because there could be some bone and structural issues, and the recovery might be longer. That's what they'll be weighing. And I, you know, the record might be a part of that calculus as well

when they get to that point. The long game answer without knowing everything about the medical would seem to be you're going to have a 10 plus year career. And if we can eliminate the elbow from ever, coming an issue again by getting surgery, get the surgery, if there's risk to playing before a surgery in the off season. But if there's minimal risk to playing, and maybe he'll still get the surgery when the season is over, maybe the brace isn't, you know, a dereliction of duty on the part of his inner

circle and the team in protecting this very valuable asset. There's just too much about the injury we don't know. But my hunch, just to reiterate, my hunch is that Jaden's going to be back and he's going to be back playing with a brace. And I think it'll be sooner than most people think. Last year, it was a four-week recovery before he was ready to play. One of those weeks was a buy week. the three games and the bye week.

If he's back for New York, it would really be a two-game miss, and he's back on the field. I wonder actually last year, after he did what he did against Seattle, if it was actually healed in time to have been able to play, you know, a little bit earlier, had the record not been 3 and 8 or 3 and 9. He came back in that Minnesota game, if you recall. And they passed on him playing against Denver on that Sunday night.

Mariotta's one of his best games of the year. So, anyway, that's my hunch. Terry McLaurin today interviewed after the practice today, had this to say about Jaden's absence, and listen carefully, I think he's implying Jaden's return. It's unfortunate the space we find ourselves in, not winning the game and Jaden going down. But, you know, it's only week two, and we know Jaden will be back. So we're just really focused on this week.

Terry McClaren, we know that Jaden will be back. But when, Terry, when? I think it could be as soon as two weeks from Sunday against the Giants. Just a guess. I have not talked to anybody that would truly know anything at this point. All right, let's talk to Brady Henderson. He covers the Seahawks for ESPN. We'll do that after these words from a few of our sponsors.

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Joining me right now is Brady Henderson. Brady covers the Seahawks for you. ESPN. He's the John Kime equivalent for Seattle's ESPN coverage. You can follow him on X at Brady Henderson. The Seahawks are 2 and O. They are the defending champs. They come into Washington for Washington's home opener off a 31 to 7 win over the Cardinals, an impressive win. The question I'll start with is who do you expect to be under center on Sunday at 1 o'clock here in you see. Well, thanks for the interaction, by the way. And if only I had John Kimes sense of humor, then I would be something. You know what? That is a great question. Mike McDonald did say that

if Sam can play, if Sam Darnal can play, he's going to play. I do kind of think that that is what a head coach has to say in that situation because you don't want to give the impression that, okay, let's say McDonald may be inclined to take things flow with Sam Darnel. Like, if he's sort of on the fence, then maybe the way that Drew Locke has been playing, maybe the fact that Washington is going to be without Jaden Daniels,

and the Cicothea probably would have a pretty good chance of beating them even with Jaden Daniels. I don't think McDonald can imply that or let that thought creep into his team's head. And so I think he sort of has to say that if Sam Darnel can play, he's going to play. But I do think those factors are going to weigh. you know, into his thinking. So the plan is for Darnold to practice on Wednesday. We'll see.

I don't know if he's necessarily going to be a full participant. But so that's a long-witted way of saying, I don't really know. I don't know if the Seahawks know at this point. I do kind of wonder if, you know, human nature takes over for Sam Darnold here, and, you know, quarterback nature takes over.

And I wonder if maybe he's looking at the way Drew Locke has played his butt off the last two games and his, thinking, you know, even as a Super Bowl winning quarterback who, you know, made the Pro Bowl last year, I wonder if maybe Sam Arnold is a little more motivated, not that he wouldn't have been trying to get back as quickly as possible, but maybe there is a little extra nudge, you know, to get back quickly just seeing the way that Drew Locke has played. I think that that's the way even established quarterback's think. So describe the way Drew Locke's played and tell me if people are surprised by it?

he's played excellent you know he's thrown four touchdown passes three of them came in the game yesterday or excuse me three of them came in the game on sunday to jackson smith and jigba he has not turned the ball over which was a huge problem for him earlier in his career and i think what we're seeing is and we get reminders of this constantly we got a reminder of it with sam Darnold over the last few years that, you know, how a quarterback plays over his first few seasons, unless it's such a bad situation that the guy just becomes broken and he develops incorrectable habits and his, you know, head is all messed up. You know, quarterbacks do have the right to get better and especially when they're in good situations with good teams around them,

good coaching and all that. And I think you're seeing that with Drew Locke. He just does not the same quarterback that turned the ball over a bunch of times, you know, early. in his career with Denver. I don't even think he's the same quarterback that couldn't beat out Gino Smith in 2022 when the Seahawks acquired him in the Russell Wilson trade. And by the way, a lot of people in the organization

really thought that he was going to be their starter and then Gino Smith beat him out. And even when he went to New York for a season a couple of years ago and made five starts for the Giants and went one and four, I mean, he's in a much better situation than he was right now than he was then, just a better team, better weapons, better defense, all that.

So, you know, he's doing a really good job of taking care of the football. And, you know, in the first game against New England, was a lot of shorter throws. You know, his average air yards per attempt was only six yards. So his average throw went only an average of six yards beyond the line of scrimmage. So not a lot of downfield stuff, but he did push the ball downfield against Arizona. It was eight point-something yards, which was, you know, kind of right around league average.

And so he's just, he looks like a starter. And believe it or not, he's sitting there after two weeks with the fourth best total QVR of any quarterback in the NFL. So pretty surprising. Well, I mean, you mentioned it,

and I talk about it all the time. You know, Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold. And by the way, Gino Smith in Seattle with Dave Canales as, you know, the quarterback's coach before Canales went to Tampa and resurrected Baker Mayfield's career. Like, situation is so important.

You can't give up on these guys. I mean, I said it on the show already this week. What Drew Locke is doing, you know, I don't want to make it apples to Apple's to Malik Willis because Malik Willis entered free agency in a year where there really weren't quarterbacks available in the draft after Mendoza. But he's probably, even if he plays well in just one more start, he's probably played his way into a pretty hefty free agent contract to start somewhere. next March.

Yeah, I have had the same thought. You know, maybe even if it's not, you know, he is 29 years old. So he's sort of probably middle of his career, I would say, at this point. Right. And maybe it's not a big deal to, hey, come in and here are the keys to be the franchise guy, but, you know, maybe it's, you get a two-year deal to be a bridge starter for a team that plans on drafting a quarterback high. You know, it could be one of those things.

two things, but even then, you know, bridge quarterbacks get paid pretty well. And so I just think, I mean, even if he doesn't get another start, I think he's played so well over these first couple games that, you know, some team might, might, you know, see him as a pretty good bridge quarterback. And look, you don't have to look further than the Monday night game, you know, when James Winston went there and absolutely stunk it up for, you know, more than a half of, you know, that's the reminder of, hey, this is how bad it can look when a backup quarterback comes in there and he's either not ready or he's not all that good. Drew Locke is probably the exception.

So, you know, the defending Super Bowl champions are always, you know, scrutinized and talked about a lot. And Kenneth Walker, the third, the Super Bowl MVP, goes to Kansas City. And by the way, right now looks like the free agent acquisition of the season. The Seattle drafts, the other. Notre Dame running back, Judarian Price, end of the first round. You know, Jeremiah Love obviously went four overall to Arizona. I guess the question I'm leading up to is, do you think they're better than they were last year, worse or the same?

At running back, you mean? No, the team overall. Oh, the team overall. I mean, they definitely lost more talent than they gained. I think, you know, at least in terms of immediate, you know, guys that you expect to come in and produce right away, because there's obviously only so much you can count on from a rookie. Yeah, I mean, they lost a good amount of talent. I do think that they didn't get decimated the way that a lot of people sort of viewed them as getting. You know, they lost,

I would say, four players, really. It was Ken Walker the third, Kobe Bryant, Rick Wollen, and Boy, Maffay. And I wouldn't say that any of those contracts at those players got were contracts that the Seahox necessarily should have given those. I mean, boy, him off a good for him, got $20 million the season after being, you know, a rotational edge guy with two sacks last year. You know, Kobe Bryant got a massive free agent contract. I think $40 million over three years, which, again, good for him. Rick Wollin was somebody that, you know, he ended up kind of not having probably as big of a market as he wanted to, and that was really the one where, in retrospect, you look back at that and say,

man, I wonder if that deal was really available to them, just because the way that their third cornerback situation looked for much of camp, it looked like his loss was going to be a bigger deal than it seemed like it would be in March. Then again, Nehemiah Pritchett has stepped into that role. He's played pretty well over the first couple games. With Walker, you know, I'm very interested to see what happens when the first few injuries pop up because, you know, he did, he did a great job of staying healthy last season, played in all 20 games, was hardly on the injury report. But I think in Seattle, he kind of developed a reputation as a guy who wasn't maybe

all that willing to push through some injuries. And, you know, there were a bunch of them that came up over his four seasons with the Seahawks. And so what does that look like now that he's gotten paid now that he no longer has the carrot of free agency that maybe you would think, make a guy inclined to, you know, do everything he can to stay on the field. So that said, he looked tremendous. That looks like it's going to be a home run signing for them as long as he can stay healthy, which is a big question mark.

Well, how has Chadarian Price looked? And when is Zach Charbonnet going to be back? Yeah, prices look, I would say as good as advertised and even in some ways probably better because the big question with him, well, one of the big questions with his skill set was, you know, what is he going to contribute in the passing game? Because I think you only had, what was it, 15 catches over his career at Notre Dame. And so you wonder, like, you know, can this guy be a three-down back? I think, you know, maybe he was probably a better receiver than those numbers suggested,

just because Jeremiah loved he did everything, including catch passes. And I also think that he worked on that part of his game, you know, after college. and so he looks like a capable pass catcher. He's got some explosiveness. I don't think he has the same, like, fifth year, so to speak, that Walker has, but, you know, you see him get on the edge, and he can rip off some explosive runs. You know, you're maybe not going to see those, you know, 50, 60-yard runs that you saw sometimes with Ken Walker where he just is too fast and he outraces everybody.

But, you know, you're going to see his first run went for 12 yards. And, you know, when he gets to the edge, you can see that he can see that he can. and he's going to rip off some nice runs. Right now, he's got a shoulder injury, and I'm not sure what his status is for this week. It doesn't sound like it's going to be a long-term thing, but it sounds like it could be something that could threaten his availability for Sunday. And then as for Charbonnet, we are going to get word pretty soon

as to when the Seahawks or whether or not they're going to open his 21-day practice window, which they can do starting this week. He still has to miss two more games. while he's on PUP, but if they open up his 21-day practice window this week, that would tell me that there's a pretty good chance he is out there by week five when he's eligible to start playing again. Defense look dominant against New England in the opener, but the opener is the opener, and we know it can be a head fake week one,

but it was dominant again on Sunday in Arizona. This looks like a real difficult challenge for Washington with Marcus Mariotta at quarterback. how good is this defense? It is really good. And it is so good that you will, it almost kind of sneaks up on you how good they are because you'll be, you know, sort of watching the game and then realize that, oh, through three quarters,

the other team has like 105 yards of offense. I mean, they held Jacoby Resett to, I think, under 100 passing yards, which is sort of unheard of in today's NFL. You know, there's not really one thing. It's not a defense that, you know, really, I would say, is led by one specific position group. It's really all three levels. And they've got playmakers at all three levels. And they've done this, by the way, without maybe their single most talented player in Nick E. Manwari, who missed the opener, you know,

coming off the July ankle surgery, only played nine or so snaps in week two. It sounds like, you know, he should be a full go here pretty soon. And I think he unlocks a lot of stuff for them. you know, the ability to cover basically anybody. He's listed as a safety, but he sort of plays like an outside linebacker to the point where he's even on the line of scrimmage at times is because there's so many things that he can do with his, you know, body type and his size and strength and all that. And so, you know, Devin Witherspoon is a guy that they paid a lot of money to over the summer.

And ideally, you know, they would like to use him in the slot because that's where he impacts the game. most with his ability to blitz, which you saw on the Super Bowl, and his ability to just sort of stick his nose in there in the run game and be a bigger factor in run support. They can only really do that if they feel good about their third quarterback because, you know, you're only moving Witherspoon inside when you're in nickel, and you're only in nickel when you feel good about your third quarterback, and that's why I mentioned Nehemiah Pritchett earlier. He's been sort of a pleasant surprise because I think a lot of people, myself included,

would look at that position as the biggest question mark on that defense, but he's he's played well. That's allowing Witherspoon to move inside, and that's allowing him to make plays where he has the best chance of doing so. All right, we're going to take a break. Brady's going to stick around, and when we come back, we're going to talk about what Mike McDonald revealed about his first few months as the coach of the Seattle Seahawks back in 2024. It's actually a very interesting story. We'll get to that after these words from a few of our sponsors. Hey guys, I want to welcome a new sponsor to the podcast. The name of the product is Tushy, as in yes, that Tushy, your backside.

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Brady covers the Seahawks for ESPN. And I wanted to end the conversation with you by talking about what you. wrote about a week ago about Mike McDonald. And the difficulties he had adjusting to being a head coach shortly after he was hired back in January of 2024. He didn't outright say that he was depressed or suffering from depression, but it certainly seemed like he was dealing with something similar to that. So I'll let you kind of tell everybody what you wrote.

wrote and this very interesting reveal from the Super Bowl winning head coach, Mike McDonald, about what happened to him the first few months after he arrived in Seattle. Yeah, and by the way, just a quick aside there, yeah, McDonald was, I want to say his final two choices really were Washington and the Seahawks. And I think, you know, I was told that when, before he accepted the Seahawks job, he called Josh Harris to say, basically, thank you. but I'm going to take the Seahawks job, and it sounds like he had developed a kind of a relationship with Josh Harris

throughout that process. And so, you know, another classic what if in the NFL. But yeah, yeah, that was probably more candid than I expected McDonald to be in that interview. And I would encourage people to go check out the entire thing because there was some really fascinating stuff. But that was probably the most newsworthy bit out of it was McDonald really talking about how badly he struggled personally over those first few months with the Seahawks. And you're right, he stopped short of calling it depression,

but he was describing a lot of things that I imagine that, you know, somebody who was actually qualified to give that diagnosis would say is in line with that. He said, you know, he had a hard time getting out of bed. You know, on the weekends he would basically stay in bed. When he would come home from work at night, he would just get in bed and he wouldn't really get out until it was time to go to work the next morning and even said he was drinking a lot at that time. And it was more candid than I would expect a coach to be,

just because I think, but in an admirable way, because I think some people in leadership positions might have a hard time sort of admitting that they have had those kind of struggles. And I think he sort of talked about how a lot of it was based on, you know, some of it, I think he and his wife lost their dog unexpectedly, but he also talked about how some of this was a product of, the massive expectations that he had put on himself and just all the pressure he was putting on himself and he wasn't really seeing and this by the way was over the first few months of him being on the job

in you know 2024 so probably spring of 2024 and he was just talking about how you know some of the things that he wanted fixed weren't really getting fixed as quickly as he wanted to and that was putting him in a bad spot mentally and just for people to have an idea you know this is This is a guy who could not get himself to rewatch the Super Bowl for several weeks, if not maybe a couple months until after the game, because he knew that he would be picked off by some of the things defensively that Seattle did in that game. And by the way, that was a game that they won 29-13 and their defense absolutely dominated.

In that game. So that's the kind of perfectionist mindset that you're dealing with. with here and that I think maybe provide some context as to sure um that's the why he was going through what he was going through yeah I mean there could have I mean obsession obsessive compulsive all that stuff sort of plays into this I'm not going to diagnose him obviously but I found that the story fascinating because as a first time head coach for those of you I would really encourage you to read it um Brady Henderson at Brady Henderson the ESPN dot com he's got all of his story up. But to be a first time head coach, the expectations of, you know, you get in there and you're

working your ass off 24-7 to get this thing turned around. And he said, I couldn't get out of bed. I was a terrible leader. I couldn't communicate. I was showing up for work late. Like, do you remember anything about people in that building wondering what the hell was going on or having second thoughts early on. No, I remember hearing at the time from someone in the building that, you know, he was kind of struggling with his dog, you know, dog was four years old and it died unexpectedly that he was kind of struggling with that, but I didn't get the sense at the time that it was something that went like well beyond that and was really affecting him just sort of like professionally.

And I don't even know if maybe other people in the building did. I mean, we, somebody asked the defensive coordinator, Ed and dirty about it, and maybe he was just, you know, playing dumb for lack of a better sense, but I think he sort of gave the impression that he was not really aware of that. So I don't know. I don't know, but I did not realize at the time what the full extent of it. I mean, fast forward, he's a Super Bowl winning coach, and he's done a phenomenal job and is obviously a defensive, you know,

high-level defensive coach. All right. We'll end it with this. I'm assuming that there's not much concern in Seattle about playing Washington without Jaden Daniels, a quarterback, even if Drew Locke has to be the starter. I mean, they would never admit that publicly, obviously. But I think this is a team that, yeah, I mean, the way that Drew Locke has played and the way the defense is playing, you know, the run game is, it looks good late in that game. certainly they closed it out with a 16-play drive,

and they ran almost, I think, maybe on almost every play and really iced that game out with a drive-the-last-10 minutes and finished in the end zone. So they've got what it takes, I think, to win without their starting quarterback for a good chunk of the season, obviously depending on the opponents they play. I would think that they would feel pretty good about their chances of going into Washington and beating Marcus Mariotta and the commanders,

even if Drew Locke has to play. Again, they're not going to admit that. And I do think that that, even if they wouldn't say it publicly, I do wonder if that would play into their decision on which quarterback to start this week if it was a case where Darnold was kind of on the fence. Like, you know, maybe you start him if it's a playoff game, but maybe in this case with a team that you should be able to beat even with your backup quarterback, maybe they give Donald one more week just to make sure that he's all the way back.

Seahawks currently six and a half point favorites. The NFL is weird this way, the public all over Seattle in this game. They're going to play the game anyway, Brady, regardless of who's playing and what everybody thinks will happen. Thank you for doing this. Really interesting stuff on your Mike McDonald's story from a week. week ago. Appreciate it. Yeah, you got it, Kevin. Thanks for having me. See you. All right. Up next, the My Bookie crossover with Zabe. We'll do that after these words from a few

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but something called the MyBooky crossover. Zabe is a My Booky endorser and has been for a while. I have been for a long time now, as all of you know, and they want us to get together as we do anyway during the course of the year probably two or three times. He comes on my podcast twice, three times a year. I go on his the same number of times, but we're going to do it more frequently during football season,

and we did record something about 15, 20 minutes earlier today, and here is how it went. All right, new feature. I love it. It is the MyBooky crossover. My friend Kevin Sheehan from the Kevin Sheehan podcast is here with me. And I, Kevin, am here with you. You and I are going to hook up once a week for a little 10-minute crossover. Thanks to our friends at MyBooky. And we're going to go ahead and talk about some of the interesting lines for the week. weekend ahead. You can educate my listeners on the smell test. I will educate your listeners on how to fade my shitty picks to the moon. How about that? Well, first of all, we've both been friends with my bookie forever. I mean, this is a shop people, even if you've got another shop, you should have more than one. If you're doing this the right way, you've got to have more than one place.

So you get the best numbers, the best pricing. It all adds up. And my bookie, He's got fair numbers, fair pricing, and they offer everything. And Zabe and I have both been friends and endorsers of My Bookie for a long time now. And they're a great shop, great shop. So, yes. And also, here's a novel thing. When you win, they pay. And not everyone can say that.

Or they make it a real pain in the ass, not My Bookie. My Bookie was around back, you remember Kevin Wynn, all this stuff was not legal. Exactly. So they were, they were nimbly operating in that space that allowed them to operate. So this is how much they've been in the business, how long they've been in the business, and you don't survive that way if you don't know what you're doing. Well, this is the other thing, too. My bookie is an old school traditional shop.

You're not paying with one of these new, you know, intros into the market minus 125 on a straight bet loss. There's none of that. You're paying minus one 10. You're not being taken advantage of. And trust me, because I've done this for a while, it adds up. You don't want to pay high vigs when you don't have to pay high vigs, and you want to get the half point in your favor because it does matter. You've seen how tight these lines are, especially in the NFL.

All right, what do we got? Do you ever see the documentary? You're dead right about that. It's all about getting just the right number, getting a little edge here, little edge there because it's an overtime kind of a thing. Did you ever see the movie? It was a low budget documentary called Getting the Best of It. And it was following.

I never saw that. Oh, you should watch it. It followed a handful of I would call them low level professional gamblers on sports in Vegas. And they were- Well, you remember our old friend Brandon Lang. Oh, well, of course. They made a movie out of it. They made a movie, two for the money.

I know. But this is a, I would say that this is a little bit darker of a look because... Real gamblers. Well, yeah, right. I'm not saying that they're degenerate low lives, but they weren't exactly killing it, per se, but they were always talking about getting the best of it, meaning they had to get the best line and the best edge because that's really where the winning goes.

Okay, enough about that. Before we get into some of the lines, you asked me before we hooked up, you said, are we going to talk Jaden Daniels? and I said, who boy would I love to? I know you've talked it up one side and down the other on your show. How do you want to steer me into my first conference with you? This, if you were doing local, which you do on the weekends sometimes, the question here is it's probably going to come down to surgery

and he's done for the majority, if not the entire year, or brace it up and let's go. Now, we did, you know, you love these days, you remember these days, literally could have taken calls for the entire three hours on just this question. Because it goes deeper, right? It's like, well, what's the right thing for him? Well, maybe it's surgery, but we don't really know. We don't know what that thing looks like. We've all had orthopedic surgeons on the shows the last few days.

And they all say one thing consistently, and that is that once it happens, for a second time, you're now much more susceptible to elbow dislocation. And now you're getting into that area where you will eventually need surgery. Sooner is a better prognosis with a faster recovery. Later, after a third or a fourth, it becomes more problematic. So one angle is this is your future. This is the guy. Ten years from now, you want associated with your franchise. Jaden Daniels, elite level talent and he fixed it in year three and he hasn't had an issue since. Or if bracing it up protects it to a certain degree, do you really want to waste a season two weeks into it? And then the other aspect of this, Abe, is they don't have to make a decision now. They can wait to see

what happens the next few weeks without them. If they're 0 in 4 or 0 and 5 or 1 in 5, it's probably not worth it. If they're two and four and they can steal a couple, bring them back. I would say that when I first saw this happen on Sunday, like everyone, my first reaction was, oh, snap, or the S word like Tom Brady said. But then my immediate secondary reaction was, okay, that sucks, but all right, well, we're going to just kind of deal with this again. At least it's not his knee or something worse, like his Achilles, right? It's not Jackson Dart. but since that time, since that first thought of, ah, snap, okay, we're going to manage through it. I am both stunned by the recovery time it takes for surgery.

And I am also gutted by the now wrong decision probably by Daniels and his team to not get the surgery last year. Because I understand that he opted out of it thinking, well, I don't want a 12th. month recovery that would then compromise this year. So I'm going to rehab it and bring it back on its own. Now you're probably going to have to go the surgery ride. I had no idea it was a 10 to 12 month recovery. Jesus. Nor did I. That's not what the orthopedic surgeon that came on my show said. I haven't seen that anywhere. If it's this second time and there's not a lot of bone and structural damage, it could be a three to six month thing. I haven't heard 10 to 12 months from anybody. All right. Okay, then that softens the blow for me.

But he's got to get surgery. Now, he did opt out a surgery last year, right? When he probably should have had it. I don't think so. I don't think it was proposed as an option. What do you mean? It had to be an option. Well, after the first dislocated elbow, the recurrence rate is between 1 and 2%.

And surgery is very rare. Oh, really? after you, after you dislocate your elbow for the first time. Now, that's one and two percent of what, the general population or athletes? And if it's athlete, it doesn't matter. The overall, the recurrence rate of a dislocated elbow once you've done it is very low. And the operation rate, the surgical route, is very rare. Now, he did reaggravate it in a game against Minnesota a few weeks after he did it against Seattle.

We don't know a lot about that particular injury. The reporting on that's very vague. Doctors that I've talked to, orthopedics, have said the reaggravation could have and maybe even should have led to at least a conversation about surgery, especially when they decided to shut him down for the rest of the year. But he said it's not a lock that it led to that, especially if he didn't dislocate it again. Because aggravation can be a myriad of things. But no, it's not a conversation that you. typically happens after the first time. And from my understanding, if he were to get a surgery now before, say, a third or a fourth dislocation, it's more like three to six months. But if he

dislocated it for a third time or a fourth time, that's when recovery becomes much longer and surgery becomes more complicated. See what's happened here over the course of the last few days? I've gone to med school. Yeah, good for you. You're pre-med now. You're pre-med. Postman, okay, I don't know if I got that bad information. So I was wrong on two points. So I'm glad that that's better news, but here's the still sobering reality, which you and every commander fan is that is this season is, this season is, Bredskine fan, this season is almost certainly now doomed.

I hate to say that, but you know that. It's almost certainly doomed. He's going to miss a huge chunk. There's probably little confidence that even if he, braces it up, that he'll be as effective as he needs to be for a team that is still trying to find its legs in terms of who they are. I mean, Kurt Warner's like, well, I played through a brace, and I'm like, yeah, but you just stood back there and threw dimes. He's got to run around. That's his game. It's hard to run around. I definitely think, I definitely think the odds are in favor of what you're

describing. With that said, and I'm not saying this is the right answer if it actually plays out this way. But I have a feeling he's going to be in a brace much sooner than most people. I don't have information. It's just a gut. And I'm talking about he misses Seattle, he misses the London game against Indy, and he's back against the Giants in two weeks from Sunday with a brace. I think that that's how this is going to play out, that he's going to come back. Now, as far as the season being doomed, it's doomed when you lose your best player for the the majority of the season and your best players a quarterback witness last year. They had no shot without him playing.

I know. But if he were to come back and there are still 11, 12 games left in the season and they can steal one of these next two or three, maybe two of the next three, they've got Indy and the Giants over the next three. Yes, but here's my biggest concern. By the way, they've caught a huge break with both, they're going to catch Drew Locke on Sunday. and then they're going to catch whoever's going to be in at quarterback for the Giants instead of Jackson Dart. So that's a nice little break there.

Yeah, I mean, Locke's playing pretty well right now, and Seattle's really, really good. But yes, it's a break. But yeah, I mean. Well, here's the other. You know what I think about this NFL. It's impossible to predict it's week to week. Here's the other thing that is a complicating factor. After this year, he'll have a chance to get paid, right?

It's another layer. Zabe, we'd be doing hours upon hours. And, you know, it's like, do you really want to pay him $60 million a year when he hasn't been on the field for most of two or three seasons? He's going to get paid. Well, yeah, and the answer is you're going to have to because the cost of not having Jaden Daniels is the real price, and that's all you need to focus on. That's why the Buccaneers paid Baker Mayfield. It wasn't that he really thought, they thought he was worth the $60 million. They're like not having him is worth $60 million because our season's over if we don't have Baker Mayfield.

Over. It's really the best way to put it. It's the cost of not having a quarterback versus the possibility of having one. And we as Skins fans know that it was 33 years before we actually got a legitimate franchise quarterback. And in his first year, they were in the championship game after 33 years of being in the desert of loss. quarterbacks or no quarterbacks. Let's get to some juicy lines and then we'll put a wrap on this little crossover segment. Always good to talk to you, my friend. Let's start, shall we, in college? Give me a juicy line or two without cannibalizing your own patented smell test picks that you give out on

your full podcast. Well, the smell test comes out tomorrow and it's off to a pretty solid start. So, Ole Miss had that emotional win on Saturday night against LSU. They're going to the the swamp and Florida's favored over Ole Miss by three and I would be very shocked if I don't have Florida in the smell test tomorrow laying the three with the public pretty much lined up on old miss and earlier than that arch and Texas going to Knoxville catching four after they knocked off and came back against Ohio State and it looks like the world's going to be on Texas which you know what that means for me. I'll be on the other side.

I'll be on the side that my good friends that my bookie will need. That's the side I'll be on. Was it Sumral, the coach for Florida, who said must be some good drugs out there for them to be favored against oldness? Yeah.

Okay, but it's a massive. It is, if you believe in the emotional letdown as a concept, especially with horny 18, 19, or in the case of Trinidad Chambliss, 24-year-olds, If you believe in the big emotional come down, this is the mother of all emotional come down spots.

So I can understand why the number is actually on Florida. So there's that. Give me what you like Sunday. Or are you looking at Saturday right now? Well, okay. It's hard. The juiciest game to try to handicap to me is Oregon at USC. Both teams have had master.

disappointing outcome so far this year. USC's outcome was a win last week by letting Rutgers run all over them and score a ton of points. Rutgers ran a fake punt, as you saw, at their own like 19-yard line early in the game. Rutgers all the way out there at L.A. So even though USC won the game of their 4-0, I think it's been a little bit disappointing for them this year. Oregon, obviously, having lost to Oklahoma State and then they took it out on poor Portland state. This is an interesting juicy game. Oregon is minus three at USC. I think I'm going to have to ride with the Trojans in this one for a snapback from a disappointing game against Rutgers.

So I will fight on with my niece and her alma mater USC. Now let's go to Sunday. Juicy games on Sunday, point spread wise. Well, the game that just says everything you need to know about the NFL week to week is nobody thinks the Chargers have a chance at Buffalo. And I'm talking about outright. They're getting six and a half seven. Buffalo is, you know, in every power ranking the number one team or the number two team. And the Chargers season is over after losing back to back, 26 to 14 finals, Abe. Both games were lost by the exact same weird. 26 to 14. So of course I like the Chargers to bounce back in this spot. Cover. I actually like them to win the game outright.

Okay. My juicy game, and I hate to do it because you and I are both Kirkchurks. And I'm sorry I didn't include you in the video with Charge on my Twitter feed about Kirk getting off to a 2-0 start with the Raiders. You were one of the original Kirkchurchs with me and Charge and others. I don't know if you were actually part of that early group. But we'll just rewrite history if you want. Whatever.

I became a Kirk Turk Turk. He won me over, obviously, through his grinding ways. As much as I like Kirk. The Raiders have no business being 2 and O. And going on the road at New Orleans, I'm taking New Orleans minus three as one of my juicy ones. They don't think, don't blank, just don't make it complicated. The Raiders shouldn't be 2 and O. They're not going to cover three points on the road.

Give me the Saints minus in that one. And as always, what do we tell people? We tell them to go to MyBooky. Stick around. After we're done here, we will have our own promo codes. You'll give out yours for your listeners. I'll give out mine for mine. and that way you can go wager responsibly.

So there you go. Last note, are you excited for the upcoming NBA season? I am a little bit, but I thought we would end up talking President's Cup today, because I'm sure you've got it right on right now, right in front of you. Sure you do. It has so low energy, and I don't understand. It really does. These world-class players from Asia and Australia all over the world ought to be able to hang and bang with the U.S.,

but guess what? They just, they don't, whatever the sum of their parts, it doesn't add up to what Europe is. Go figure. All right. Good to see you. Thank you. The My Bookie crossover, everybody with my guy, Zabe. Zabe and I love doing stuff together.

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