The Kevin Sheehan Show - A Tush-Push Solution

Episode Date: September 28, 2023

Kevin and Thom today with a menu of excellence. They talked about Eric Bieniemy's press conference where he dodged most questions with a similar answer. Kevin thinks the "Tush-Push" QB sneak should be eliminated and offered up the rule-change solution. The boys talked Sam Howell, Thom had his Washington-Philly pick, they talked "The Office" re-boot, re-introduced one of their radio segments "You Heard It Here First" and closed with a nice story about Travis Hunter and the Colorado State player who knocked him out the last two weeks.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Chean Show. Here's Kevin. Tommy's here. I am here on this Thursday heading into another big football weekend. The show, as always, is presented by Window Nation.

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excellent again on Sam Howl, on Eric Bianamy, third down defense, did a lot of film prep. And, you know, he is still encouraged that Sam can work his way out of what was, you know, an awful game on Sunday. But there's a lot of really good stuff. stuff in there, including some suggestions on what they should be helping Sam with on dropbacks in particular. But anyway, so go listen to it if you haven't listened to the show from yesterday. So Tommy, right before we started to record today, I don't know that you did this, and I probably

should have told you to go watch it, or at least, because the transcript's not out. I watched the Eric B. Enemy press conference from earlier today. Well, I followed some of the comments that people posted on Twitter. What were people saying? Well, you know, where he said, I didn't know we had nine sacks in the game. He did say that. No, he said, I didn't know that we had 19 sacks. That's true. He did say that. 19 sacks. I didn't know we had 19 sacks.

On the season. And it's my job to clean up the shit. Yes, he said that. Yes. Look at this team. This team seems to do losing very well. they said all the right things this week well you know

Ron I mean Ron says too much he talks too much we talked about that the other day but um but the quarterback said all the right things yesterday he was really spoke well beauty took all the handled it like like you know

a leader handles it took all the blame made no excuses but Tommy you just got to go watch Eric Bion and me today it's 15 minutes every question all the specific questions are basically answered the same way. We didn't play well collectively. We got to get it together, but we got another opportunity and we're going to figure out a way to drag ourselves

over the gold line. Eric B. Enemy is responsible for it. We're in it all together, and I love the way we fought and we get another chance and it's going to be better. But we're going to find a way to drag ourselves over the finish line. And it was we, we collected, we collected, and then only I mean, this is the brilliance of it because Eric B. Enemy is taking these questions now.

Well, he did it in Kansas City last year too on Coordinator Day, but he did it with a great team where they're really, and it's Kansas City, by the way, there's not a lot of pointed questions probably more often than not, when your team's drilling the opponent week in and week out. And, you know, the questions were, what about

run-pass balance? What about what can you do? protect Sam a little bit. By the way, then the mic on the questions went out. He didn't bite on anything. Every answer was, we just didn't play good. We just weren't very good. And yet sometimes you just have a bad day. But collectively, I love the way we hung together and we're hanging together this week. I don't know other than just referring to Sam as a young quarterback who is seeing things for the, like he keeps using the same line where he says, you guys understand it, sometimes when he sees something,

he's seeing something for the first time. And he was asked about Brian Robinson, Jr. Brian Robinson, Jr., here's the one thing I know about Brian Robinson, Jr. after that game. We didn't win the game, and he's not happy. Brian Robinson wouldn't, he'd trade everything because we collectively, he didn't, there wasn't. one moment where you could have said,

ooh, maybe he thinks that, you know, Andrew Wiley really needs to get it together, or the offensive line as a group needs to get it together. Uh-uh. I mean, Ron yesterday pretty much said that Emmanuel Forbes is kind of struggling here early with his technique. You know, Ron the other day said the defense was basically, you know, spooked by Josh Allen or whatever it was that he,

however he described that. He was in their heads. In their heads. He was in their heads. Eric B. Enemy, it was a masterpiece in not answering any of the questions for 15 minutes. I kept saying, as I'm watching this, I'm like, this is impressive.

Like, this is legitimately impressive what he is doing. Now, I told you the mic went out on the questions, so, but you could, you could, tell because he was sitting there waiting for some of the answers. When I get the transcript, I'll see kind of what the general question was. Some of them were long, and I heard the questions, and you know some of them were coming back kind of long. Like Ben asked a question towards the end, something about essentially saying, what do you use good or bad, whether they're playing well or not playing well, to sort of measure offensive line performance? We just

had a bad day on Sunday. Sometimes you have a bad day on Sunday, but we collectively got through it. I love the way our guys got across the finish line. We're dragging each other over the finish line and we're going to do it again this Sunday. I guess the only thing you could say about is the 19 sacks. He said, I didn't even know we had 19 sacks. You know, at some point, it wasn't to that question. He said, I'm not much of a numbers guy. Numbers guy, you should know that by now. But we collectively as a team, and Eric Bienimi is going to make sure that he improves too, because this is on me too.

He did say at one point, I put together the game plan, I'm responsible for the game plan. I helped build this roster. That actually was somewhat notable, although I think we all understood that with the offensive moves that were made in the offseason, that he had. a hand. I mean, Andrew Wiley and Kemp that came in and Pringle, you know, some of the chiefs guys that came in. So he had a hand in that. But it was impressive. Not only did he not answer a question for 15 minutes, he smiled through the entire thing. It was just, I was like, I don't know if, I think he, he had a, you know what, he developed the game plan for his press conference today.

You know, or their PR people who are much better than they used to be said, you're going to get a lot of questions about Sam Howe. You're going to get a lot of questions about why you didn't run the football more. You're going to get a lot of questions about run-pass balance. You know, you may want to get detailed, but probably the best thing to do is to do what you do best, which is talk about it was a bad day and we collectively, together as a team, are going to drag our asses over the finish line. I just, you know, it was impressive.

It's such a contrast to the head coach. Oh, my God, yeah. You can't get him to shut up or not talk about anything. No, and you can get away with that when you suffered one loss in a two-and-one record. You know, but, I mean, if you're, if you're, if you're, and eight, you can't, you can't do that. Yeah.

That won't work. But for right now, I'm kind of curious about fans. I'm sure there's a segment of the fan base that's frustrated he's not answering questions. But if I was a fan at this point, given this team's history, I would be happy with those answers. I am. You know? You just mentioned me. This is what I've always said.

Look, it's not good for what I do. to have a Belichick kind of a response coach. It's terrible for what you do. But as a fan, you know me, and all of you that listen, I don't like to be promised anything. Show me. And show me something good on the field when it matters. And if there are tough times, you've got to be really careful.

You know, and we've had coaches and assistant coaches and players and, you know, owners and co-owners. I mean, for years they've just been serving it up. But to your point, you make a very good point. Two and one, one bad game. That's fine. Yeah. But in big boy towns, and I would consider this to be a big boy town, it's not Philly. Like today at two and one, Philly people wouldn't have accepted any of his answers.

They would have gone after him a little bit. They would have said, but you're not answering my question. Specifically, tell me what you think about your current pass run balance of three and a half or four to one. Is that what you envision moving? They would have continued to hammer them. I'm not suggesting our group isn't good, because they are good. It's actually, I think, maybe the best group we've had in a long time. I know you don't necessarily always feel that way, but I think, you know, they do a good job.

but we know the difference between this market in Philly, and there's a big difference between this market and Charlotte or this market in Kansas City for Bianami. But to your point, it's not about even the record. It's about they can't repeat what happens Sunday. And he did say, the one thing he said, we'll play better, we'll play better. And we can't wait for the opportunity to go back out there.

and it'd be hard to be worse. Yes, it would. It would be hard. It really would be hard to be worse. I mean, if you think they're going to adjust their offense to take some of the pressure off the quarterback, that means there's going to be less opportunities for the Eagles to take the ball away probably. Yeah. Oh, he did say one thing.

It was in the context, well, it was in the midst of, you know, we played bad, we're going to get it together and drag our asses over the finish line. But he did say something about Sam. He said, and the number of times that he's being dropped back to throw the football, he said, my quarterback needs to know that we're going to throw the football, and I've got all the confidence in the world in him throwing the football. That's a paraphrase there. I don't have the exact quote in front of me. The transcript will be out, you know, probably in a little bit. But it wasn't a remarkable quote, but what it enforces for me is kind of what Ron talked about earlier,

is that there is a bigger picture long game here, and it is to see if Sam Howell can be their guy in a system that they want to be pass first. That's kind of my takeaway. through three games. Now, this could change. You take a beating on Sunday against Philadelphia with eight sacks and two more picks and a fumble, and you lose 34 to 14. Then Ron's going to say, okay, we got to start running the football because the last two years, let me show you what happened when we started to run the football. We actually started to win games and we got ourselves

into the hunt. Actually, that would be the wrong time to do it because you got the bears coming to town the week after. Yeah, well, it's not the week after. It's four nights after. Yeah, Thursday night football. Yeah, Thursday night football. So that would be the time to go ahead and let it fly, baby. Yeah, they play the Bears, by the way, for people that don't know, one week from tonight. One week from tonight, Washington plays Thursday night football against the Bears, which is exactly, I think, the exact same week and same spot they played Thursday night football last year. Wasn't it week five? Maybe in week six, I forget. That memorable 12 to 10 win? I think it was 12 to 10?

No, it was 12 to 7. 12 to 7. I think it was. 12 to 7. I think it was 12 to 7. And now that I think about it, I think the Tennessee game, which it was the game the week before, four days earlier where Wentz got picked off at the goal line as they were about to win the game. And that dropped them to 1 and 4.

so it would have been week six that they played Chicago. Week six. Were they one in three after that game or one in four? Whatever. Who cares? Anyway, I was impressed with that. I mean, you're right, though. You can't have another game like Sunday.

If your quarterback gets sacked that many times and he's getting beat up like he got, you're going to have to then answer why you're not doing something to protect him. Yeah. But he was impressive today. Jack Del Rio, by the way, I wanted to mention this real quickly because it came up right at the end of the radio show today. Jack Del Rio was asked about the Eagles' tush push play. You know what the tush push play is, right? The third and one-fourth of them. They're basically their quarterback sneak version. Exactly. So Del Rio said, I think all of you know what the play is, it's when Jalen Hertz gets. under center and they get two tight ends and a running back and they push them forward. And Jalen Hertz, by the way, has probably the strongest lower body of any quarterback in the NFL. He may be the strongest quarterback in the NFL period.

So Del Rio was asked about the play and he said, quote, I don't think it's a football play. It's a rugby play. But then he noted it's legal and therefore we've got to figure out how to play that play until the rule is changed. I think there's going to be a rule change on this. And I'm kind of pissed at myself for not being more emphatic about it in the off season. Because I think when it came up during the off season, I just said, yeah, I don't know. I mean, you can do it. You can push runners in the open field, and they figured out a way to do it.

And I don't know if you can, you know. And by the way, not everybody's successful all the time using it. Jalen Hertz is a big part of why that's successful. He's got such a strong lower body and strong legs, and then he gets pushed on top of that. And he's probably, you know, as a guy that's been a running quarterback, he probably has a way of getting into the proper crease or whatever to get pushed even more easily.

But anyway, I think I have the answer to this. Do you want to hear it? Yes, Mr. Answer, man. Please tell me what your solution is. Okay. So, first of all, do you agree that it's a play that needs to be outlawed? I think football's not meant to be third and one, fourth and one, and it be like a 98% play, which I think it's been with the Eagles.

And again, not every team has made all of them, but it's not what quarterback sneak fine, but having a bunch of players push the quarterback for the sneak, I don't think that's really football. personally. I think they're going to change the rule and I think they should change the rule. Do you agree or not? I don't have a problem with it. I don't see a lot of other teams doing it. So until it becomes an epidemic throughout the league, I don't think they'll change it. All right. So here's the solution if they decide to change it. The solution is simple. You're not allowed to push a runner behind the line of scrimmage. That's a penalty. See, right now you are allowed to push a runner at any point. You are not allowed to pull a runner.

So in an open field run, if an offensive lineman's blocking in front of a runner and a runner starts to get tackled, the offensive lineman can't grab the offensive runner, his teammate, and pull him over the goal line or pull him for extra yardage to get a first down. You can't pull a runner, but you can push. We see it all the time. Sometimes they'll blow the whistle and call forward progress, but a lot of time they let it go, and you'll see offensive linemen with a running back that gets stopped at like the two-yard line,

and all of a sudden here come three big linemen from behind them, and they push them into the end zone. That I'm not talking about outlawing. What I am talking about outlawing is you can't do that behind the line of scrimmage. First of all, you'll never have that issue with offensive linemen behind the line of scrimmage because they're in front of the runners, whether it's the quarterback or the running backs. They're already in front of the runners. They're not going to say, I'm not blocking the guy in front of me.

I'm going to run behind the quarterback and push him. So you're taking the tight ends and the running backs and a wide receiver or whatever, and you're saying you can't push the quarterback or you can't push a running back from behind the line of scrimmage. if you make it a penalty to push a runner behind the line of scrimmage, that's easy to enforce. It's harder to enforce if you outlaw pushing a runner altogether. Because in the open field in particular, when a runner has already crossed the line of scrimmage or is out on the flank, lots of times blockers are out there just trying to block and they end up, you know, pushing the runner. And it's not intentional.

And so then you're getting into a very subjective area. Sometimes. If you make it, you know, you have a line of demarcation. It's the line of scrimmage. If a runner gets pushed, gets helped with a push from behind the line of scrimmage, it's a penalty, period, and that'll end all the quarterback sneak stuff. And anything else that happens behind the line of scrimmage. That's the solution, I think. I haven't thought it out completely. Again, I don't think, I don't see it as a problem other than an Eagles problem. And I don't think the league is going to be taking it up. It's happening everywhere in football. It's happening college. It's happening in high school. It doesn't happen in Washington.

No, they have not employed that play. You're right. Other teams have, though. Lots of other teams have. And I don't know what the success rates are with other teams. I do know that the Eagles success rate, they've like missed once. doing this, maybe twice. It's like in the mid-90 percentile on third and one, fourth, and one. I bet you, I would make a healthy wager, this play gets outlawed, and I think, because you didn't

respond to this, but I'll pat myself on the back, I figured out the way to get this out of the game. Okay. So, I wanted to read, I didn't, yesterday on the radio show, we did a segment, Tommy, where I said, tell me through three games what you've been most encouraged by. And we got a lot of calls to calls for like, I don't know, two or three segments, and I got a lot of tweets. I got a lot of emails on this. And my answer on through the first three games, what I'm most encouraged with is, Duran Payne is having a great season already, three games into it. And it's very obvious that this isn't going to be one of those seasons where he got paid and then took a step back.

And I'm not only encouraged by that, because a lot of people did wonder whether or not it was smart to give Duran all that money after he performed and had his best year in a contract year. And I said, no, you got to pay him because by all accounts, this is a high character guy. and he just had his best season because he's just getting better. And now he's about to enter the prime years of his career. So that, to me, was number one of my list of things that I was most encouraged by. A lot of people said, Sam, how? Before I read a couple of emails in response to this, do you have an answer to the question?

What's been the most encouraging thing to you about the first three games? and I'm talking about football. You know, I know. It's so hard to really come up with that coming off that 37 to 3 loss, you know, which is like 33% of the season right now. So it's hard to really feel to make a judgment, to be encouraged about anything. But since I didn't have any expectations about Sam Howe and what he did in doing, Denver, even though the

Broncos are a very suspect team, it's still a hard place to play. This was a young quarterback coming back from a 21 to 3 deficit, that he showed me things that he was capable of, that I didn't know

if he was capable of them or not. I'm going to say Sam, how. So what are the things that he showed you that you didn't know he was capable of? Well, that he doesn't fold under pressure. I mean, I mean, 21 to 3. Figured in question.

Yeah. I mean, you know, he doesn't, the moment is not too big for him in that sense. He made all the throws. He was on the money with a lot of throws. Again, I know it's the Broncos that it just gave up 70 points to maybe the best team in the league in the Dolphins. But unlike everybody else who's a quarterback visionary, I had no. vision of Sam, how.

Yeah. You know? Exactly. I mean, he didn't do anything in a Dallas game to make me think that he was a starting NFL quarterback, and he certainly didn't do anything in the Cardinals game to make me believe that. I'm more willing to believe it after the Denver game.

And I think the Buffalo game, in part, I don't even want to use the word. I'm not going to use the word, F-A-U-L-T. I'm sick of hearing about it, okay? No matter what happened to him in the Buffalo game, I'm still willing to believe that he has the tools, given the right opportunities, as Ron Rivera likes to say,

to be an NFL quarterback. By the way, is this a column coming about fault? because if you're talking about just the obsessive conversation about sacks and who's at fault, you're talking about that specifically, weren't you? Yes. Yeah. It gets a bit much. You know what?

Everybody? Everybody, it's my fault. I'm the reason. Yeah, I think it's a column. So, you know, Cooley said the same thing yesterday. He said, I'm not, I haven't lost hope after that. game, there's still some things that he's shown me that are very, you know, encouraging. And I agree with that. And I also, as you know, I agree with it's okay to not know.

Okay, it was okay to not know over the summer, and it's still okay to not know after three games. A lot of people seem to know, bless your hearts. So with that, let me get to some of the follow-up that I got from this segment, from Samuel. Like your caller just said, I had a couple of callers yesterday who said, Sam, by far in a way, is the most encouraging thing. Like your caller said, I'm not flinching on Sam. I have no issues with what happened in the Bills game. I've seen the good and he's smart enough to fix the bad. He's got what it takes to be our franchise quarterback. Give it time.

From Chuck, I'm most encouraged by Sam. Nothing I've seen so far worries me. He's going to be a good one. for us, Kev. Think Joe T. As in Joe Thaisman. Whoa, hold on, Chuck. We're talking about Joe T. You know, the Belichick, Lawrence Taylor thing. Hey, we're talking about Lawrence Taylor now. You know, let's put the brakes on it here. Not that Joe T is Lawrence Taylor. But so, look, to me, it's totally reasonable for Samuel or anybody else to say, hey, I'm not flinching on Sam. I've seen the good. He's smart enough to fix the bad. He's got what it takes to be our franchise quarterback. Give it time. That's a reasonable take. I mean, I don't have to agree with all of it, but it's not unreasonable. From Chuck, I'm most encouraged by Sam. Okay, he's going to be good for us, Kev. Think Joe T. Okay, whatever. It's you're entitled to your opinion. But when Samuel says, I've got no issues with what happened in the Bills game, and Chuck says, nothing I've seen so far worries me.

Oh, yeah. What are you talking about? Are you guys, I mean, you've got to stop this. Of course you should have an issue with what happened in the Bills game. Of course you should be worried or concerned about what you saw in the Bills game. This wasn't your run-of-the-mill bad game. It's the first time it's happened in 28 years. And I, again, I,

I saw the Denver game. I saw the Buffalo game. I saw the Arizona game. I'm not willing to bail yet. I've seen some good things, as Tommy just described. That Denver game's in my memory bank. Now, what happened to them in Miami on Sunday really does put a little bit of an asterisk next to this. Yes, it does.

But we came in here, and a week ago, we were talking about, wow, those were some high-level plays, some next-level reads, and then three. and taking some shots after the throws and making plays. And I loved the plays he made in the Arizona game. Now, I think the overall effort was a C effort, but the off-scheduled touchdown pass to Robinson Jr. The off-scheduled touchdown run to give him the lead. So there are definitely things there,

but you've got to stop with, you've got it all figured out. It's okay to say you don't know. And in the process of saying you don't know, you can say, I have liked some things that I've seen, and I really do think and believe in some of those things that I've seen. But the reason I don't know is because what I saw on Sunday. I mean, Samuel and Chuck, did you not watch the game on Sunday? Or are you blind? Because I was sitting here a week ago saying,

I really liked a lot of what I saw, but it's just one game. We've got to give this time. It's going to be up and down. It's, you know, Arizona not so great. Denver really good. Let's see what happens against, you know, the bills, as Tommy referred to him as the varsity. Well, what we saw was an abject disaster.

I don't care if the offensive line played poorly. I don't care if the defense couldn't get off the field and third down. Eric Bianney, the defense, the offensive line, every, when you get, when you're down 37 to nothing in an NFL game, everybody's responsible for it. But Sam's responsibility was tops. He allowed, he threw four bad interceptions. He missed, as Cooley pointed out,

Coley's film breakdown focused on the interceptions more than the sacks. I think he's gotten sick of whose fault is it. He said what he added into the conversation is some of those sacks were coverage sacks, because for the first time in the three games, everybody was covered. People weren't getting open. But what was I going to say? Oh, Cooley suggested that the coaches may actually be concerned the most with things that didn't show up statistically.

And he pointed out that there was a second Nate on their second drive. And he said, this is the easiest pre-snap read. This is too easy. They're in cover two. you see the split safeties, it totally eliminates the throw he ends up making. And that's probably the thing that they're going to spend time on. Like, what are you looking at? What are you seeing?

Because he's like, you cannot against that look throw the out to, I think it was to Dotson or McLorn. And he missed him and it was incomplete. But he's like, that's a pick six a lot of the time. Or it's a near pick six. He's like every quarterback sees the split. safeties and knows that the throw is in the seams, and he threw it outside. And then he also had a really hard time with the first interception, the third and 19. He's like, how does he not see that the linebackers dropping into the area that means can't throw it here? Not to mention, it's third and 19, and you're in

field goal range, so you can't take the sack. And Bates is wide open for the easy checkdown, and it should have been in his mind before the ball was snapped. That is tight end going to be open on the checkdown, throw it to him, let's get 10, 12 yards, let's kick the field goal and tie it up. He said those two are probably as concerning to him, because he and I also talked after the recording. I forget how much of this is in the show yesterday and not in the show. But he said, he goes, I guarantee you this is something that they are spending as much time on

as they are the sacks and the interceptions. because they're just simple basic reads. So he's thrown a little bit more into the conversation about the bad on Sunday. But how can you not have at least an ounce of, hmm, maybe he's not the guy? Because I got to tell you, if you don't think there's a chance that he's not the guy, you really are so easy. I mean, just way too easy. That has to give any halfway objective person the game on Sunday a reason to say,

got to see more because if it's that, he ain't the guy, obviously. And keep in mind all of those sacks. I want to emphasize this, this has been a problem for him going back to North Carolina. This is one of the reasons he dropped to the fifth round. He holds on to the ball too long. He doesn't see it as quickly, and he takes a lot of sacks. And did we think it was going to be record-breaking levels of sacks? No, no, nobody could have anticipated that.

But it is, and that's why it's remarkable to me, that at least some people, don't have, quote, any issues at all with the Bills game, or nothing I've seen so far worries me. That worried me a lot on Sunday, especially coming off being optimistic after seeing them on Sunday, the previous Sunday against Denver. That's a bad combination. Having a track record of holding onto the ball too long, being protected by a team that hasn't been able to protect their quarterback in recent memory. Yeah. That combination area. You know what? You know what we haven't talked about yet?

If I could just veer off the road for a second? Please. I don't believe I didn't remember it when we did this on Tuesday. But, you know, I was so impressed with your enthusiasm going into that Buffalo game Sunday. I mean, you were so on board that they could win this game. You know, I really, I'm not running it to you on you. I go, wow, he probably hasn't felt this way about a big game in a long time. Am I right?

You're right about the way I felt about the game with respect to their chances to win the game. And the funny thing is, I didn't put them in the smell test because it didn't fit the, you know, they weren't a major anti-public play. I did play them and I played them on the money line. And all week long, you know, in so many ways it was about their confidence level. I was on the pre-game show. I'm on the pre-game show every week. with Hoffman and Logan Paulson on 980.

And I do a hit with them. And I think I said this to them. I may have said it to somebody else. Oh, I said it to Smoot, actually, on Monday's show. The reason that I was confident is I just got this sense that this team had a lot of confidence. They had won two games. They had really played well offensively in Denver.

and that was the biggest surprise of the first two games was how explosive they were in Denver. But I said to Smoot, you know, their best players are used to winning. Not here, but John Allen and Duran Payne and Terry McLoran and Sam Howe won a lot of games in Chapel Hill. And I just think that, you know, I just felt like Buffalo hasn't been right yet.

They struggled with a really good defensive team. I guess what I'm getting at it was it was more about being a football fan and having a really strong feeling about a game. And it just happened to have been the Washington game. I had a really strong feeling about Washington pulling off the upset. And I said it. But I also was excited to a certain degree that they were 2 and 0 with a chance to be 3.0. I'm not going to lie about that either. I mean, I'm not as passionate as I once was, but I wanted them to be three and oh.

You were right. They were – I watched them in the pregame warm-ups, and I usually watch the team in a pre-game warm-ups, and they were demonstratively more enthusiastic in their warm-ups than they usually are. Players were singing, dancing, you know. I mean, you really could tell. They couldn't wait to get on that field and play. I mean, it was a little bit different than their normal pregame warm-up. And I just thought, you know, I mean, there was part of me that was poor for you

because I thought it was so cute how happy you were going into the game. Oh, God. I don't know whether or not that was actually sweet from your end or condescending. You haven't had it in so long. And so I'm kind of disappointed they didn't win because, you know, were you crushed? No, no. I'd be lying if I told you I was crushed. I'm not back at that level.

I'm not. You know, I was more crushed that I was wrong than they lost. But don't get me wrong. I, like many of you, feel differently than I did a year ago because Dan's gone. So it's like there is a chance. And then also, to be completely honest, it's just better for me. It's better for you. If they win, like a 3-0 start.

A 3-0 start, the conversation in this town is totally different than we've heard in a long time. And it benefits specifically this podcast and my radio show and everybody that does a podcast or radio show writes a column. You know, this is the thing we've talked about for years. Not everybody believes us. They certainly don't believe you. They actually believe that you thrive. on the dysfunction. And by the way, you did for many years,

thrive on the dysfunction. But I, no, I'll tell you something, Tommy. We have a listener, Eric Fingerhut on Twitter, and John Orand, of course, our good friend. Oh, I know. He's a very smart guy. Yeah, Eric sends me all of the local rating stuff. I guess I don't, it's, there's a Twitter account. And John Oran sends it to me as well.

But, you know, we've all kind of wondered, well, what's the effect going to? to be. Well, everybody got super excited about Arizona being sold out, all, you know, Skins fans. Week 2 different because the Buffalo fans had bought up the tickets. The television ratings have not been super impressive locally. They're better than they've been recently, but this past week, the game did a 14-something. As a comparison with the team they played, all right? So Washington was, I think, 23rd or 22nd in the league in local television. ratings with a 14-something rating. Okay, the week before they did a 17-something, which was the highest we've seen around here

in a while. But last week it was a 14. Now, the game was a blowout, too. Okay, so people probably tuned out when the game got out of hand. But as a comparison, Buffalo, locally television for this game, did a 42 rating. You know, so they beat us 37 to 3 on the scoreboard in 4.4. 42 to 14 in local television ratings. And understand, and Tommy, you'll say this,

it's not all about television ratings anymore because of streaming and the way people consume things. I understand that. But it is still a much bigger reflection of interest than is attendance at a game. I know, but that's an unfair comparison. I mean, one of your options in Buffalo. Okay?

You know? Well, true. But also because they have a winning team. This is a team that's been a contender. I know that. But they have a passionate fan base in part because they have limited things to be passionate about in Buffalo. There's lots of options in Washington, D.C. I know.

It's not Western New York's never been one of my favorites. I used to have to go years ago, Rochester, Buffalo, and Syracuse. And here's where you don't want to be in those places, although I love snow, but you don't want to really be in those places from about November until June almost. No. No, you don't. But it's, you know, it's all. They get 180 inches of smell up there.

It's a hearty group of people, and they're very nice people, and they're big-time sports fans. They love their bills. But, yeah. So, so far, like, everybody said, well, everybody's going to be back. Everybody's not back. Okay. So that is why I was reminded when you were asking. me how I felt. It was more about my prediction and my gut feeling that they would win and wanting

to be right. But I also want them to be right professionally. And yes, I feel differently about the team today than I did six months ago. But the idea that everybody was coming back when Dan sold the team, because we know there are other factors, okay, the name's one of them, the television ratings aren't back into the, you know, high 20s and low 30s. You know, like Philadelphia in their market. Better town, right, Tommy? Much better town than Buffalo. For, they did a 20.

Yeah, absolutely. They did a 29 local rating for, you know, for their home team. Baltimore in their game did a 24 local rating, 10 points higher than Washington. Washington, you know, is still in that. bottom third in local television ratings through the first three games of the year, roughly. And so, no, this is a team 10 years ago. You know, eight years ago, we're doing, you know, 20s and a playoff game in the 30s. A playoff game in 2012 after the 2012 season that did a 50 locally.

All right, half the television sets were tuned in to a football game between Seattle and Washington. a very infamous football game, as you recall. But, yeah, those are playoff games, not week three. But, you know, it'll come back. They have to play better than they did Sunday. That's for sure. I think they will play better than they did Sunday. We're going to get Tommy's prediction coming up here shortly.

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at least on my Twitter account. I've got a tweet from the account Sheehan's Bible. You know, Kevin is one of your many devoted fans who tweeted, always a good night at Shelly's back room. Eagles at their worst are pretty much better than any other NFC team. and with a picture of a beer and a cigar in an ashtray at Shelley's back room. So he was taking a picture of a TV. I know him.

I met him. I met him at the bullpen for the celebration. He was very nice. And yes, he's got that Twitter account. But a very nice guy. So that's great. He's at Shelly's. He enjoyed it.

Yeah, he was at Shelly's. And I had another guy who was at Shelly's and had the menu in front of him. and wanted to know what I would recommend to eat. And, you know, I mean, I'm not a bad guy to ask for food recommendations because I have a limited palate, you know, as opposed to a man of the world like you. Yeah, right. Who, you know, who will eat different things. I mean, it's my simplicity that makes me complicated. So I told them that.

I said, you know, I like the chicken tenders. but any burger that you get there will do and pretty much you can't go wrong with anything on the menu they have a lot of great food selections there so you know we're getting response from the people who listen at this podcast are going to shelley's back room and having their own great experience there as well and that means they'll be back because if you go to shelley's once I guarantee you'll be back because you'll say yourself

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And by the way, there is a Shelby, North Carolina, if I'm not mistaken, Tommy, right? Isn't there a Shelby, North Carolina? Some North Carolina tar heel. Is David Thompson from Shelby, North Carolina? Hold on, I'm looking at all. I don't know. I ask me about six questions.

I don't know. Shelby, North Carolina, I got it right. David Thompson from Shelby, North Carolina. So Shelby from North Carolina says, I'm a fan from way back in the Sports Fix Days. Can Tommy be on with you more than just Tuesday and Thursday? Thank you very much. And by the way, Shelby gave us five stars.

I love when Tommy's on with me whenever, but it is important, Shelby, for you to understand. Tommy would not be doing this for free. Tommy is my co-host for two days of the week. But when you're a co-host, you don't do it for free. Nobody would do it for free. I'm not suggesting that Tommy should do it for free. but we do have we are very cost conscious on this show we we have a budget each year and

Tommy gets expensive but that would not really necessarily be the reason two days we started with two days and I don't even know why we started with two days you were busy you had your column and we just decided remember at Chadwick's when we were first doing the first podcast at Tony studio yeah and I said what do you want to do how do you want to do it and we just for whatever reason, we settled on, let's just, let's have you on two days a week. And at the time, Cooley was planning on doing like more than two days a week. And I think that that was part of the overall, too, I think. But yes, it's, I love doing Tuesdays and Thursdays.

You know what? It's worked out just fine so far. You know, you paid me sort of a compliment last segment, something that you forgot to do on Tuesday. did I forget to pay you a compliment. What was your final score prediction of Buffalo, Washington? Oh, I think it was 3523. Oh, 3523. Okay, for whatever reason...

I expected much more offense out of the Eric B. Enemy high-powered offense than they generated. I wasn't in the ballpark. Okay, I had 3114. I thought it might have been. 35, 23. I should probably write these things down. All right, I'll tell you what, with that perfect segue into, so what's your pick?

Well, I like the varsity again this week, the Eagles. By a lot, 35 to 13. You know, normally you would use past completions and touchdown passes to measure a quarterback. But I think the measuring stick has changed in Washington a little bit after last week. So I'm going to say only six sacks of Sam Hal this week and only two interceptions. How many of the six sacks will be Sam's F-A-U-L-T? Oh, my God.

They're all my fault. I'm responsible. 3513 Philadelphia. I'll have my prediction tomorrow, but I got to tell you. No, 3519. 3519. 3519. I, for some strange reason, I feel like they're going to play well Sunday. They're going to bounce back off of this hideous effort.

I don't think they're a bad football team. Now, if the quarterback turns out to be bad, they're going to be a bad football team. They're going to take their lumps. They're going to win the games like they won against the JV, but they're going to struggle against the varsity. You understand. You understand even if they are not fundamentally a bad football team, there is a particular mixture in the formula here

that can keep a good football team from playing well. And that's a poor offensive line against a tremendous pass rush. They might be good, but they don't get a chance to show it. Yeah, but then you've got to put it on the O.C. You can't take nine, like I said to you on Tuesday, if you take nine sacks again, that's next week. Next week it's going to be hard to just answer. We collectively are trying to drag our asses over the finish line.

And I love that about our team. because an offensive coordinator should be able to scheme up something to stop a quarterback from being sacked nine times in consecutive weeks. The easiest way to do it is to hand the ball off and punt if you have to because you can't get sacked if you don't drop them back. But there are obviously many other ways to do it. So if something like that happens, I will be in here Monday. and Eric B. Ename is going to be, he's going to be under the, he's going to be in the spotlight at that point.

He was so good against Denver, and last week not so much. Yes. And so that's what we've had here. We've had an up and down with the O.C. We've had an up and down with the quarterback. So it would be, if we're going up and down, this would be the week to be up. More on that tomorrow. So Tommy, did you see the news?

about the office reboot? No. Yeah, lots of... They're not going through with one, are they? Well, lots of reporting that Greg Daniels, who was the showrunner, they call them showrunners. You would know that. Yes. The people that run these shows are called showrunners, that Greg Daniels is trying to put together an office reboot.

So how do you feel about that? Well, I mean, since it's the same people, I mean, Greg Daniels, you know, was one of the guys from the original show. Generally, I don't like these things. I don't like reboots. I don't like remakes. You know, like when the longest yard is on my guide on TV, and it drives me crazy when I see it, it's the Adam Sandler. Instead of Burrano. instead of a

Bert Reynolds one. You know, same with the taking a Pelham one, two, three. If it's a Denzel one, instead of Walter Mathel one, I'd say, why would they even bother to screw with greatness? So generally, I'm not in favor

of these, because I don't think they work most of the time. So I'm not of favor of it, but I'm curious that it's the same creators from, it's the same producers from the original office here in America. Yeah, I'm not in favor of this either.

I don't, like you said, why mess with perfection? It was perfection, nine seasons of perfection, and really season nine was not great. You and I both think that James Spader in season eight, as Robert California was very underrated by most office fans. But, I mean, first of all, you can't do it if Steve Carell's not going to do it. If Michael Scott's not back, you can't do an office reboot. I have zero interest in that if he's not on it. And then beyond that, you've got to have Dwight back.

You've got to have Rain Wilson back, and you've got to have Jim and Pam back. I mean, like, you've got to have the key members of the height of that show back if it's going to have any shot at succeeding. And I'm sure there'd be a lot of money in this, but there's zero sense in doing this without Steve Carell. Zero. Is this going to be a network show, do you know, or is this like a cable streaming show, like an Amazon? on prime or something like that. I don't know that that's even, you know, out there because it's, you know, I guess it's first got to be created and then they got to sell it to, although, I don't know, would NBC or Netflix or Peacock. Peacock would probably have the rights to a reboot, I would imagine.

Yes, they would probably would. I don't think, I don't think you need to have everybody, everybody from that group back. You're not going to get Jim back. He's out there directed movies. Apparently, he's the one that actually would be up for it. He and Mindy Kaling, I think, both weighed in to say they would definitely consider it. Oh, that's good news because he's carved himself out a nice career. He does the Jack Ryan series, the Quiet movies. Yeah. And he's directed a couple of big science fiction horror movies that have done well.

So that's good. That would be good. Yeah, and if he comes back, then of course, Jenna Fisher has to come back. I mean, you can't have him back. What if there's divorce? What if there's divorce? I guess that's possible. Well, then you could have her and not have him if you're going to do it that way.

Yeah. But to me, the bottom line is you've got to have Michael Scott and Dwight Shrut back. You can't have a show without the two of them. I would agree. So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, then again, I was the guy that didn't watch it because I said, well, they can never, ever recreate the BBC version, the Ricky Jervais version. This is going to be a joke. And I steered clear of it for probably, you know, eight years, nine years, whatever it was.

And then I started to watch it. And I'm like, it's really good. Okay. You've given your prediction. We've talked about the office reboot. We're going to finish up the show. I want to talk about Brooks. We're going to finish up the show with Brooks Robinson and something I would like us to do every Thursday, especially during football season.

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866-90 Nation or Window Nation. com. Tommy, give me a little bit on Brooks Robinson, who passed away the other day at 86 years old. Well, I've never met in my life a celebrity slash athlete as warm and friendly and as human as Brooks Robinson was. I mean, it's hard to describe. You can't overstate what a decent human beings. this guy was to everybody he met. I mean, there's so many people in Baltimore that have Brooks Robinson stories. You know, you know, signing this autograph,

you know, saying hi to their kids at dinner. So many stories like that. He was always so gracious to me whenever I talked to him and dealt with him. And the Orioles announced on Monday, they're going to open up the ballpark for a commemorative event. They're going to honor Brooks. I think they could go be guest speakers and things like that on Monday.

And, you know, what's interesting, though, as an interesting aside, okay, because I knew Brooks, and he talked to me about this one. You know, the Orioles in recent years, ever since they started losing 100 games a year before they got good, really went out of their way to embrace their alumni. And in order to do that, they had to repair their relationship with Brooks because for years, it was a damaged relationship.

Why? Back in 2005, they wanted to honor Brooks' 50th anniversary of his major league debut, and Brooks refused to go. There was a dispute. Brooks had been running a fantasy camp, a Brooks Robinson fantasy camp. And apparently he was using some kind of Orioles uniforms maybe in that, and the Orioles shut it down. And Brooks was extremely bitter about that

and wanted to have nothing to do with the team for at least 10, 12 years. and then when it became in the Orioles best interest to repair that, they did. To their credit, they have, they've opened up, there's a lot of great relations with alumni back there now, a lot of great old Orioles show up on Friday night. They're going to honor Jim Palmer for his 60 years with the organization as a pitcher and as a broadcaster. Who, Powell will be there signing autographs. but it wasn't always, you know, it wasn't always that way with Brooks. They repaired it eventually, and in the last few years, he had a good relationship with the team.

But like so many things the Orioles did over the years, they had managed to alienate Brooks Robinson for a time, which nobody thought was possible. Right. Well, I mean... And also, I wanted to just let people know my column tomorrow is an interview with Davy Johnson, who was one of Brooks. his teammates about his time playing with Brooks. Now, and Davy said, talked about this. Now it's just Brooke, it's just Davy, Palmer, and Booke Powell from that great, from that great 66 Orioles World Series team.

Those are the only ones that are left. And that was the team that beat the Dodgers, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, so you'll be able to read that on Washington Times.com. Click on sports with Davey Johnson's memories of Brooks Robinson. I don't really remember Brooks Robinson. I do remember certainly the Orioles teams of the early 70s.

I mean, I was not an Orioles fan. You know, when I was, you know, I remember the last senators team. I've told you that before. My father took me to see Denny McLean pitch his first game as a Washington senator in 1971, and I distinctly remember that. And I've told this story many times. One of the reasons is we came back out after. after the game and the car wasn't where we parked it because it had been stolen.

But the, I don't, I can't tell you that I remember Brooks Robinson, but I know the legend that he was in the defensive gem that he was, considered to be perhaps the greatest third baseman from a defensive standpoint ever. I think Mike Schmidt is always considered, you know, all around the best third baseman that's ever lived, right, Tommy? Well, because of his power numbers, yeah, over 500 career home runs. Brooks won 16 gold gloves, consecutive gold gloves. Amazing.

I mean, that's just stunning. A stunning number. At one time, the Orioles had Brooks at third, Luis Apparicio, who won nine gold gloves at short. And then after that, Mark Belanger, who won eight gold gloves. and then Davy Johnson at second who won three gold gloves. Imagine that infield. You know, with those guys.

I mean, the Orioles, after the Yankees' demise, you know, after 60, after 1965, and, you know, once the player draft went in, once the MLB draft started, and the Yankees just couldn't buy players anymore. and like 65. The Orioles were the gold standard. Yeah, they were. For like 15 years. You know, they were the best organization in the sport.

From 66 to 83. Yeah, I'm looking at this. 66, they won the World Series. They missed the playoffs the next two years. Then in 69, they won 109 games. They lost in the World Series. in 1970 they won 108 games and won the World Series. That was the one where Brooks Robinson was the MVP and they beat the Reds, right?

Yes. And then the next year, tell me if I'm wrong here. They won 101 games and lost the World Series. Was it to Pittsburgh? Yeah, seven games to Roberto Calmede and Pirates. Then they missed the playoffs, made the playoffs, made the playoffs through 74. And then in 79, that was the Pirates. We are family.

I remember that World Series very much. I remember it snowed like in game one in Baltimore, or maybe that was game seven in Baltimore, I forget. Game seven was in Baltimore, I'm pretty sure when Pittsburgh won with Willie Storjel, et cetera. And then they won it with Cal Ripkin and Company in 1983, beating the Phillies in five games, I think it was. I haven't been back since, but maybe this year. I think this year they may have a shot. They are good. They are loaded with talent.

they are loaded. That's for sure. It'll be fun to watch them in the postseason. All right, let's get to something we used to do a long time ago. You heard it here first. I've been waiting to hear what the big announcement was going to be. You got it right here. Heard it here first. Thank you, John Krasinski and Michael Kelly for cutting that open for us. So Tommy and I, for the seven and a half years that we did a radio show together, each week we did a segment called you heard it here first. And it was just any sort of bold prediction that we had for typically the upcoming weekend. We would do it later in the week.

Sometimes it was a bold prediction that went beyond the weekend. I do remember my bold prediction that Washington would draft Kirk Cousins from Michigan State in next year's draft. I did give that out in 2011, and it happened. Yeah, I was a Kirk fan even when he was at Michigan State. But anyway, it's a bold prediction for the week. We will try to remember to do this every Thursday. So Tommy, what's your bold prediction for the week? This is bold, baby.

Bold with a capital B. During the Eagles game in Philly on Sunday, Ron Rivera and Eric the enemy are going to get into a sideline argument and have to be separated. That's my bold prediction. I actually thought when you started that, you were going to predict something that I suggested today to Merrill Reese. You know, the longtime Eagles play-by-play voice was on with me on radio. Right.

Such a really nice guy. You know, the Chiefs play at the Meadowlands Sunday night against the Jets. Travis Kelsey's mom will be at the Eagles game at 1 o'clock to see her son, Jason Kelsey, the Eagles center. I wonder if she'll bring Travis's new girlfriend with her. What if Taylor's up in a suite with Mrs. Kelsey watching Ron Rivera and Eric B. enemy get into this brawl on the sideline? That would be something. What new girlfriend?

You know what? I am tired of it. I don't want to see every time I watch the Chiefs. I don't want to see every three plays a cutaway to Taylor Swift. We don't have to see that the rest of the year, do we? Actually, I'm kind of enjoying it. I'm enjoying it from a sports media professor's point of view to see this marriage between the NFL and this marketing force that's Taylor Swift and see how it unfolds.

So I am curious about how we talk about it in the class I teach and stuff like that. And again, I want to teach you for thank you for speaking to. class last Thursday night, our sports business media class. Thank you very much. It's my pleasure. Anytime you want me. You were a big hit. So I wanted to, so I've got a bold prediction, and it wasn't that Taylor Swift was going to be at the Eagles game. My bold prediction is the Cowboys are going to lose to the Patriots Sunday. And that'll drop them to two and two if they lose if I'm right. And then they have San Francisco and the Chargers on the road in their next two games.

The Cowboys losing to the Cardinals really makes this game against the Patriots for Dallas here early in the season not must win, but a serious need to have win. Because, I don't know, maybe they can go out to San Francisco and win, and maybe they can beat the Chargers in L.A. They'll be underdogs in both of those games more likely than not. and the Patriots are much better than people understand. They are super good defensively, and they can run the football. And last week, Arizona ran it right down Dallas's throats. Yeah, the Patriots more likely than not are going to be in a smell test tomorrow.

That line is at six and a half and the world is betting Dallas Sunday. I wanted to, that's my bold prediction for the week. I wanted to just read real quickly this story that I read right before the show started. I actually, Cooley and I talked yesterday about how much we both like Dion Sanders. I love what Dion Sanders said. I played it at the end of the show about his five-star cornerback recruit. And that he's old school. Dion is, this is the thing about Dion. There's lots of flash.

There's lots of hype. but he is an old school coach who really does, I think, care about his players. Tommy, I don't know if you heard this, but he essentially was asked about this five-star corner that had flipped his recruit from Miami to Colorado, had not played yet in a game. And Dion was asked last week, and he said, well, it's up to him. So two days ago, he was asked, well, what does that mean? And he said, he's got to study and prepare. He's got to study and prepare.

He's got to watch film. He's got to show up for the film meetings. He said, I know how much film my players are watching. I'd be a fool to play these people that aren't watching film. And there's something about Dion that I like a lot. But here's the story from today. So I don't know how much you know about Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter may be the best all-around player in college football.

It's very possible. Yeah, he's a Colorado two-way player. Exactly. And he got, he took a bit of a cheap shot from Colorado. state defensive back Henry Blackburn in that unbelievable game now, you know, a week and a half ago. And Henry Blackburn's been getting death threats. It's been out of control. Dion, you know, in the media last week said none of that from Colorado people. This is just a game, the whole thing. So here's this story written just a little while ago.

Colorado two-way star Travis Hunter isn't holding a grudge against the player who's hit, sent him to the hospital and cost him at least two games. Hunter and Colorado State defensive back Henry Blackburn met Wednesday and went bowling together. Hunter suffered the lacerated liver on the late hit by Blackburn. He was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. He was taken to the hospital. Hunter was treated and released. Blackburn and his family received threats, death threats during and after the game as a result of the hit.

His campus address, the home address, his parents' address and phone numbers were all published online. and Colorado coach Dion Sanders condemned the threats. Hunter and Blackburn connected shortly after the game, and Hunter invited Blackburn back to Boulder, where Blackburn grew up and attended high school. Colorado State defensive back, Ron Harge III, whose brother Isaiah plays for Colorado, helped the two players connect.

Their Wednesday meeting at their bowling get-together will be a part of an upcoming video for Hunter's YouTube channel, which has 252,000 subscribers. both players are going to donate money for their bowling game to the charity of their choice, which will receive proceeds. That's a nice story. That is a nice story for this day and age. Yes, it is.

Yes, it is. It didn't, I mean, it refused to let the poison that is social media basically degenerate into something far worse. That's a very nice story. It really speaks highly of Travis Hunter. I bet to a certain degree it speaks highly of Dion Sanders because it wouldn't surprise me if this was something he supported and was involved in. But the fact that these two are going to get together and Travis Hunter realized what this guy was going through because of this late hit, tremendous story. All right, you have anything else?

I got nothing else for you today, boss. Nor do I. I'll be back tomorrow. Jay Gruden will be on the show. I'll have Washington wins if, smell test picks, and my pick on the Washington Philadelphia game. Have a good day. I am not a bad guy. I am a good guy who runs over women with his car. Sorry, that was so good, damn it.