The Kevin Sheehan Show - Bieniemy's Intro Breakdown w/Cooley

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

Cooley and Kevin today on Eric Bieniemy's introductory press conference. Cooley talks about what his reaction would have been as a player listening to Bieniemy's first remarks since taking the job. Before that, Cooley has a new coaching job out in Wyoming but it's not what you probably think it is. He talks about his latest passion on the show today. The guys talked about the recent reports on the sale of the Commanders including one that broke from Fox Business News earlier this morning. They also discussed the story that Russell Wilson wanted Seahawks' coach Pete Carroll and GM John Schneider fired when he was in Seattle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheon Show. Here's Kevin. All right, Cooley is with me today on this Friday. We're going to talk a lot about Eric Bienemese presser and all the other interviews he did. There's news on the sale of the team.

Not just what you think is the news, the post story about Bezos retaining an investment banker to help. him do due diligence on the possibility of making a bet on the team. But there has been some recent news right before we began recording this podcast, which we will get to as well. But Cooley's joining us from Pal, Wyoming. We're according to my weather bug. It is six below zero right now. As we are recording, it was 18 below last night, heading up to maybe 15 degrees today.

It was 81 degrees here yesterday. And to answer your question, yes, I played golf. How are you? I'm awesome. I love this weather. No, you don't. You hate it. This makes you tough.

This kind of weather makes people tough. It makes you hearty, that's for sure. You're a hearty folk out there. No doubt. It's going to warm up to 15 degrees. It's going to feel like. like summertime. You weren't happy the other day when you FaceTimed me and you showed me the drifts out in

front of your house and you couldn't start your truck up because the battery was dead. Weren't happy then. So, no. It was so cold. It is cold now. It was so cold on Tuesday. The wind was blowing 50 miles an hour. Didn't you have like a wind chill of like 65 below?

It was like 65 below, wasn't it the other night? I don't think it was that. I don't know what the wind chill actually got to. It was negative 20 Tuesday night, but the wind was just howling. Yeah, so. You hear pound in your house. Snow and cold yesterday, I don't think it got above negative four. That was fun, but the wind calmed down.

Today, it's a beautiful sunny day creeping up to about zero right now. You can go outside and your nose has. don't freeze. You told me the other night that you had to keep the fire, the wood-burning fire in your house burning all night long to keep your place warm. That's how cold it was.

I mean, like you were living in, you know, the late 1800s. And it was a log cabin that I'm in and it's not incredibly insulated. Well, I got windows from the early 90s or whatever it was built that probably need replaced. Tuesday night, my furnace stopped working.

which is going to be a real nightmare. So I had to FaceTime a friend and meeting that buddy had to put a paperclip in to circumvent the high limit deal. And I had to go outside and clean out the vent of it because it was clogged with snow. About a half to get my furnace working. Jesus, it's the best when you're cold and it's freezing, but you have to go outside and fix things. I mean, I know you love living out there, but that's those days, and you have several of them from, you know, December through March.

I mean, it's not even safe. I mean, why don't you, by the way, call Window Nation right now at 86690 Nation or go to WindowNation.com and see if you can get some new windows from Harley and the gang out there. I mean, you need new windows. You've had them since the 90s. I keep pitching that if your windows are 10 years older, 10 years of age or older, you use. need new windows. Just give Wind Donation a call. Good God.

Call Harley. Call Harley. Fly him out here. Get some, get a new house full of windows. He'll do it. You know what's good. But here's the thing is you do get some of the days like that. Last year we only had maybe a couple. The wind blew a lot last year, but it wasn't negative as much. The year before it was for about a week or so. this year there's been 10 of them 12 of them

there's a big difference though kev between zero and negative 15 it's a big I mean you think like you think about it it's really like you think about it on the other end like out there in the summertime 96 there's a big difference between 81 and 96

when you get your higher limit But that's a humidity thing. That's a humidity thing. I mean, it's still. But you really notice a big difference when it hits negative 15. You go outside and you go, it's cold. Chris Cooley doesn't like it outside when it's cold. No, Chris Cooley does not like it when he goes outside.

Kevin Sheehan does not like going outside on Christmas morning when it was four degrees. Because those two days were the only cold. cold days we've had all winter, Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. And there's a big difference. Let me just tell you something. There's a big difference between 32 and 7. I need at least a 25 degree difference for Kevin Sheehan to know about the difference in feel.

That was brutal. Now, you've always said that the real benefit, like you've said, a 32 degree day out there feels like, you know, 55 here in the winter. And because it's drier and there's no humidity, and then you have the wonderful, beautiful summers. But my God, you have really had some brutally cold days and nights this winter. And that's where winter's been confined, you know, has been out west. The East Coast, we have not had any winter. It was 81 yesterday, 81.

That's insane. And this has been a long winter just because we haven't had. that, whatever, the Indian summer, where you get the warm up for seven or eight days. And that's not completely uncommon to have a week in January here within the 50. 50s. February is usually cold. Yeah.

But I haven't seen 50 since October. Right. I mean, we've taken a couple trips, which is what the plan is. But it hasn't hit 50 since October. That said, you'll look, you'll look at my weather for next week. You can look at Chris Cooley's weather, okay? Now, obviously, 32. Your fault that I'm doing this.

Stop. I'm looking at your forecast. You're going to get, you're in the 30s. 36, 38 degrees is warm. The snow's melting through the day. Right, because the sun angle, too. I mean, because you're with elevation, your snow, in part because it's a super dry snow. And because you're at elevation, it actually dries up and goes away faster.

That's true. I think it is. I could be wrong. I'm going to go with sun angle. Yeah. You know, obviously, okay, I like to put the sun in the best position to win. I like to put the sun in the best position to melt snow. I don't think it's...

I like to have a relationship with it. Yeah. All right. So anyway, 30, 30, the rest of the week, hopefully, hopefully, this is it for the negatives. Right. We should get to March, and it's not like you get a super summer in March. But I've been out here in March where it's been 55 quite a bit in the 50s.

So hopefully we get done with it. But I am over it. I am legitimately done with it. It's time to warm up. Yeah, I mean, you did get, you know, you had a week plus in St. Lucia, which was nice. You were also in Florida over Christmas. Yeah. And the, and we are actually supposed to.

So we go from 81 on Thursday and 48 hours later, we're going to have snow tomorrow. Now, not a lot. I mean, they're saying like a coating of snow before it mixes with rain and changes to rain. But, you know, whatever. We have not had winter. Yesterday was one of those days, though, coolly. Like, I think I would imagine that every tea time at every course in town was completely. filled because we've seen this day coming for like a week that yesterday was going to be a

70s to near 80 day. And it was just a perfect day to be out there playing golf and having fun other than the golf itself. I played 18 holes. I did not make one par on the round. I had 16 bogeys and two double bogeys. Didn't make one par. I three putted nine greens. Not good. But then again... You're moving forward. You're making progress. The thing that stinks about that is it's not a good score, but you didn't play poorly. I didn't play great. Some of the bogeys I was scrambling to make bogey.

But I had a couple of those holes where I think if it had been, you know, for you and I head to head where I needed to make par net birdie, I think I would have made the par. I think I would have sunk the six-footer, the six-foot sidewinder if it had been for par net birdie against you. I like to think I'd bring out the best in people. You do. Speaking of the best

in people, Murma Lottis, great content, Cooley and Tom are the best. Listening makes me feel like I'm still back home in the DMV, although the whole show kind of comes apart at the end there. I don't even know what they're talking about. Tommy and I were talking about a lot of different things yesterday. Tommy wanted to talk about artificial intelligence the other day. I discussed that Trader Joe ginger snaps are the best cookies out there. I can't remember. Oh, they're so good. Yeah. Oh, do you like to, do you guys have a, you don't have a

trade. People who ship, no, but we get my in-law ship was Trader Joe all the time. The Trader Joe's Snaps are the best. And yesterday, we talked about something Tommy and I, you know, we've done shows together for 15 years, and we found out something that we never knew about one another, and that is we both don't like tomatoes. The consistency, the texture of tomatoes, I don't eat tomatoes. I love everything associated with tomatoes. I like tomato sauce. I like tomato paste. I like everything associated with tomatoes. I love salsa. I can't eat. tomatoes. Are you a tomatoes person or not? I like tomatoes.

Okay. I like a tomato with just some salt, maybe a little sprinkling of pepper. I like tomatoes on hamburgers. I like carry tomatoes. I like to grow tomatoes. I like tomatoes. You're wrong. I'm not wrong. It's just the way I feel. No, you're wrong. No, I'm not wrong.

And by the way, lots of people followed up with us to say, I don't like tomatoes either. I think it is a texture thing with tomatoes. By the way, the... You know, tomatoes are fruit. Our review from Mermalitis wrote finished, and I didn't get to the end of it. Out of nowhere, there's this lone singer who appears to be injured.

It's a disturbing event, closed quote. Tommy is in Florida, and his favorite activity in Florida, other than drinking red stripes, is doing karaoke two times. a week, which he goes up and he does solo, and he has recorded it for us, and I've played it on the end of the podcast a few times. And let's just say he should keep his day job. A singer, he's not, but brave, he is. He is brave. What else do you have? Oh, we liked it. I want,

I want you to tell everybody, because you said it was okay to talk about what you've been doing here over the last several months. Because I think it's very exciting, and I think people are going to want to know what you've been doing in addition to all of your independent contracting work and you're building things and your electrical work and your plumbing. Tell everybody what you've been doing. Do you want me to tell them? So I am the assistant wrestling coach for Northwest Community College or Northwest Junior College.

You don't say Community College anywhere. We looked that up the other day, a friend and I. Really? So we have, it's Northwest Junior College. It's so if you're, but I love it. I mean, I'm in it, man. I'm wrestling every day. And I love our kids.

And we just finished regionals and we're going to nationals in Council Bluffs, Iowa next week. I'm leaving next Tuesday, and it's our last tournament. But early December, I was shooting hoops at the country. college with a buddy, and the wrestling coach came walking through. And he's been here for 30 years. Amazing coach. They should have went and done other, they could have been at any level. Reminds me so much of Joe Gibbs. We'll talk more about him. He comes through and we say hello and I'm from here and he was here when I was a kid and he said, hey, why don't you, will you come in and just wrestle with our heavyweight and our big guys are 97 pounds.

And I thought about it for sure because I haven't wrestled in 20 years. And I said, okay. So I went in and I started wrestling with the bigger guys and watching a couple weeks. After Christmas went by and I'd been going in almost every day. Tell everybody how it went early on when you wrestled the heavyweights after not wrestling for all those years. Cooley, by the way, I think most of you know this, was one of the highest, most highly recruited wrestlers out of high school in the country. He ended up playing football, obviously, at Utah State, but he could have gone to any of the wrestling powerhouses in the

country. They all sought, you know, Cooley to come to places like Iowa and Penn State and some of the big-named wrestling schools on scholarship. But it's been a while. Tell everybody, because you called several of us that day or the day after to tell us about what happened when you went head to head with, by the way, the number eight ranked team in the country in junior college wrestling, the Northwest Wyoming Trappers. What happened that first day? Well, I went and wrestled, and I was concerned that I was going to get my ass kicked, and I'm 40 years old, and I really don't need to get my ass kicked at this point in my life. So I watched for a while.

And then about an hour in, I slapped both of my legs two times and I stepped out on the mat and I said, let's go, big boy. Chris Coley's going to rustle. Who I love, who's like my guy. They're my guys now. I mean, I would have told you the story a little bit differently

December 1st, but now they're my guys. I'm pretty good still, Kev. I'm pretty good wrestler. Now that said, on Tuesday, I tore my bicep. Yes, you did. It did not look pretty. Yeah. It did not look pretty.

It's actually okay. If you tear it off your shoulder, you can recover. I've learned this. If you tear it off your elbow, you've got to go out surgery. So I pulled it or tore it off my shoulder. My whole arm's black and blue right now. Wait, if you tear a biceps off the shoulder, you're good. If you tear it off the elbow, you need surgery.

Yes, for lack of any better medical terms. I would assume there's probably an instance where you tear it bad enough off your shoulder. You have to have surgery. But I'm pretty much okay. Other than the shutting the door movement, I could do like a curl, but the shutting the door movement, I could. I don't know what that is. Anyways, like when you shut your car door? Sorry, shutting the car door.

I thought you were talking about some wrestling move. Yeah, got it. No, none of all. Well, you can do that with your off-hand. Yeah, I can get her shot. Yeah. So it's funny because I'm still a pretty good wrestler. I'm big.

You know, and they're young. They're junior college. I think our heavyweight's 21. Right. Or 97-pounders, 21. They're young, and they're really, at this point in the year, both our heavyway and our 97 has its chance to win nationals. at a junior college level, which you'll go to a D1 if you want to go to D1 and you win nationals.

Like our 174-pounders going to go to Michigan, I think. From Uzbekistan, the kid from Uzbekistan. He's from Uzbekistan. But we're a good pro. It's a legitimate good wrestling program. You're ranked eighth in the country right now in the junior college rankings. Yeah. When we were, we actually, we wrote a 13-hour bus ride up to Colorado.

Oh, my God. The regional last week. And we had four region champs. You know, it's a program. Like, if kids want to wrestle, it's a program where if you didn't have a good offer, we have a great facility. We have phenomenal coach, a phenomenal coach.

And we're, it's a big time program for a junior college. It's awesome. I love it. And getting to be a part of it every day, I go in and I go in and we work out at 630 every morning in the weight room and then we go practice every day and then they roll around and wrestle and it's been

it's been really fun and it's great working with, it's great coaching the high school football a couple years ago but it's really a lot of fun to work with college kids because you get to be more of yourself you don't have to, you don't hold back on some things you want to say or how you want to say it and

they're grown-ups. I mean, they're adults at this point so you treat them that way and our kids are awesome. it's the that you knew this story it's the school if you want to look it up

we had the two wrestlers that got attacked by the grizzly bear right yeah we're actually we're actually I think ESPN's gonna do a well they are doing

a story for the magazine we're actually going to about to the spot where they got attacked today I'm going to go up there with them are you and do photos really yeah

it's not well grizzly bears are hibernating at this point anyway we're just going to the trailhead where they started off but we're going to go up and take some pictures with them

and now those guys are awesome. Our guys are great. I love it. I'm immersed in it. For those of you that didn't hear us talk about this, back in the fall, I think it was, two college kids from that area of the country

and they're wrestlers for the team that now Cooley is an assistant coach for, the Northwest Wyoming Junior College Trappers. They were attacked by bears, mailed by a bear, one of the wrestlers, and I'm forgetting the details of the story right now, actually saved the life of the other one and ultimately saved both of their lives.

But it became a huge national story. And who did you say is coming to do a story on them? Well, ESPN is doing it for the magazine. Oh, it's going to be an ESPN the magazine story? What, um, the kids, Cody, wasn't one of them, Cody something? Brady Lowry. Brady Lowry. Brady Lowry.

And then Gus, Gus was up there. Now, Brady was, the bear was like chewing on his arm. I think Kendall jumped on the bear, and then the bear ripped up Kendall's face pretty bad. He's got a bunch of scars on his face. I mean, it's a scary deal, but yeah, they saved each other. They saved their lives and fought the bear off. It's pretty amazing. Kendall jumped on the bear and saved Brady, and we're joking.

Kendall's redshirting this year. It's going to take him a little longer. Brady's going to national. next week. We were joking. If Brady was getting pinned, we thought Kendall might just run out there. Jump on the guy. Get off my friend. I mean, that's a hell of a story. That'll be a Brady-Span story. Yeah. I'm having a great time with it, and I love doing it. I'm going to be, here's one thing. I've already realized it's going to be really, really hard for me doing this, especially at a junior

college level. They're here for one or two years and you form close relationships with them and it's almost like the NFL stuff. And then you send them on their way. Right. I'm a struggle. We're going to lose six or seven guys that I've gotten really close with this year.

And I don't want them to go. Right. I know how much you've enjoyed this because every time we talk, that is the conversation. You're so into it. And you've talked about this guy, this coach, Ziegler, right, Coach Ziegler, is his name?

Yeah, Jim Ziegler. Yeah, and you've said... Yeah, he's been here for 30 years. Go ahead. 30 years, he's been the coach here. You told me he's one of the best in the country, and he's just an incredible guy. And, like you said, like, you're not coaching at a junior college

that's just, you know, kind of thrown together a wrestling team. This is like a powerhouse program in junior college wrestling. In fact, when I looked up, and I don't have it in front of me right now, I did. two minutes ago, but a lot of the junior college wrestling powerhouses are all out west. In fact, Western Wyoming Junior College, here it is. So Clackamas, Oregon's number one, Western Wyoming's two, Iowa, Western three, and then you've got Oklahoma, Idaho, your school, Wyoming, number eight, northwest Kansas

Tech. It's like a bunch of Iowa's in there. But then again, the Iowa Hawkeyes program has always been one of the best in the country, like a legendary program. So Iowa. Oh, yeah, Iowa's with cable and they've always been huge. Now, right now Penn State's unbelievable, and Michigan's good, Ohio State's good. It's funny because a lot of the really good D1 programs are out more on the East Coast. Well, you just gave some Midwest programs.

The state's really good. They're always very good. Arizona State's always very good. Hold on. I'm pulling up the current wrestling. It's funny because I'm learning so much. Penn State's one. Penn State's one, I was too.

Yeah. Yeah. No, you learn so much about, like, all our wrestlers talk about all these wrestling names. Like you and I would talk about football names. Right. I mean, you're learning the different programs and the different stuff and different names.

No, it's funny. I mean, I'm trying to recruit. And the reason I didn't want to talk, honestly, one of the big reasons we didn't talk about it much is I really don't want, and it won't be a big deal, but it's me, and I don't want any of it to be about me. It's really about this team and the kids, and I got here halfway through the year, and I'm just helping.

I'm just helping Coach Eagler. and these dudes, and I didn't want that story. I don't want any story about it. I don't want anyone to, you know, I just want to be a part of this thing. I want to be a part of that. I mean, you took a 13-hour bus ride, so you really are invested.

I can't believe you were on a bus for 13 hours. Yeah, it was fun. It was fun. If you say so. It's a lot of fun. I know how much you love wrestling. You've always loved wrestling. it is really a passion. Football is too. I'm not suggesting it's not, but this is really a passion. You've always loved coaching. And I'm being serious here and I know you don't want to make it about you and I'm not going to do that. But if you've got a son or you know you've got somebody you know who is a college level wrestler, but they're looking at, you know, the junior college route, this would be an incredible place because your top.

wrestler is going to Michigan. You mentioned to me the other day, and maybe you already mentioned that you got another kid going to Purdue. And I know you're going to miss them, but it's like when you're wrestling at the junior college level at this high level and you're good, you end up getting full, you know, you end up getting rides to really big time wrestling programs. And in the case of like a Michigan, a phenomenal school as well. So, you know, not everybody can go right from high school to Ann Arbor to wrestle. No, not everybody does. Not everyone has that opportunity.

It's really, it's an interesting deal with the junior college stuff and the transfer rule. I think a lot of guys think, well, let's just go to the best possible scenario, and then I'll go to an AIA school or Division II school, then I'll transfer them wherever I want to transfer. You know, we wrestle in AIA schools. I mean, we wrestle above junior, like, we don't have to just wrestle junior colleges. Right. So we wrestle guys at bigger schools, and it's good college wrestling. And it's for a lot of kids, I think for us, a lot of kids, we can get kids here cheap.

And it's not as expensive to go here as a lot of places. School isn't. Yeah. So, I mean, whatever. If kids want to wrestle this and you don't have the D1 offer that you want or the ride that you want, It's a darn good place. It's funny. You know, you think of like, well, it's Wyoming.

It's Pal Wyoming. You know, gosh, it's a beautiful place to be and a fun place to go to school. It's beautiful. I don't know. I've been, I've been, I've been, I've been, I've been, just so impressed with our program and our coach. He is phenomenal. He's won a couple national championships. He's had, like, 50 national champs individually.

He's had an unlimited amount of all Americans. and I learn not just more about wrestling every day, which I do from him because technically he's just unbelievable. But about coaching and just watching him work and how his relationships with the guys is unbelievable. They're all best friends. Our team, they're all best friends. It's really cool. It's fun.

I didn't think I missed being part of a team as much as I did until I was doing that. Right. And then you realized, wow, it is so awesome to be part of a team. Well, you talked in the same way you're talking about these. kids the same way you talked about the kids that you had in high school football. I think the difference is you're working with a real adult and a real winner and a coach that really, you know, and a ton of security. I mean, you just said he's won multiple national championships. So that's awesome. I think, I mean, I think everybody in your life is thrilled that this is something that you're

doing right now. All right. Let's do. Let's get to Bianami. Let's get to the latest on the sale of the team. We will do that right after these words from a few of our sponsors. Why not watch? Look at all the talent. Look at the players that they have. Okay?

Look at the guys that they have on defense. So I'm excited about this opportunity. I've known Coach Ron now since 1999. So relationships mean something. I know Coach Mayhew for a number of years. And that means something. something. I've known Mr. Stokes for a number of years. And so I have no doubt about what they're building here. Obviously, they went to the playoffs in the previous year. So they would basically

real close this year of going. So I have never ever back down from a challenge. So I'm embracing this challenge. I'm fired up. I'm excited. I'm excited when it's time to start talking ball with these guys to start getting to work. But when it's all said and done with, Why not Washington? That was Eric B. Enemy saying, why not Washington when he was asked about why Washington? You know, right now, as we've talked about, I mean, why Washington? Because I don't think there were a lot of options for him. But the other reason could be that Washington's changing.

And if Dan sells the team, the organization's changing. And I've mentioned this many times before. and many of you don't like to hear it. But Ron Rivera, no matter what you think of him as a coach, is respected by other coaches around the league. And I think Martin Mayhew is to a certain degree as well. But anyway, Eric B. Enemy's press conference was yesterday. I'll net it out, and then I want what you heard,

because I know you've watched it as well. For me, there are a couple of things that stood out. Number one, and I kind of predicted this, I didn't think we would hear any kind of rearview mirror looking back and bemoaning what he didn't get. He has not been public or outwardly, woe is me. That has not been Eric Bienemy over the last couple of years as each job interview he went on, he was not offered. He's not one of those guys that has looked at it and said, well, you know, feel sorry for me. He has continued to go to work, and that's what he said yesterday multiple times.

He used that line that Ron Rivera used, which is, I am where my feet are. And, you know, it was a total looking out the windshield rather than looking in the rearview mirror. That stood out to me. Number two, he is, he's got some charisma. He is a communicator. Now, there are a lot of idioms and platitudes and phrases and, you know, a lot of third person that you hear sometimes, you know, in that environment. but I can see him and why some of the players have come out, especially in the wake of LaShawn McCoy's criticism of him in defense of him. I can see him as a motivator. I can see

him as a very good communicator. And what's also clear is he's got great confidence in himself. He is an alpha. He is a believer in himself. And I thought that stood out. I think he won the press conference. If that means anything, for me, it really doesn't mean much because Carson Wentz won the press conference. Ron Rivera won the press conference after Happy Thanksgiving. And we've had a lot of people in this town, including Albert Hainsworth, who won the press conference. The real evaluation isn't a press conference evaluation of Eric B. Enemy. It is an evaluation when the games begin, and we can't start that until September. I also thought that we didn't get anything from him. with regards to football, which is fine.

There was not a lot in great detail about what kind of coach and what kind of system and what he thought of the players, et cetera, et cetera. That wasn't really what we got from him. And then the last thing I would say is, I actually think he's probably the kind of person that would not be comfortable necessarily with us spending the next 15 minutes breaking down his press conference and talking about what he said and what he didn't say. I think the fact that we don't hear a lot about it in the past, that he doesn't bemoan it,

he doesn't dwell on it, that he's a look-ahead guy. Now, one last thing before I let Chris take a swing at this. I had Diana on Diana Rusini on the radio show this morning. Diana has been intimately involved in covering the chiefs over the last several years for ESPN because they've been so good. and Diana's been on that beat. And here is my hunch after not just talking to Diana, but also just reading between the tea leaves,

including a comment that Bianney me made yesterday, that he took Andy Reed to the brink a couple of times where he thought he was going to be fired. You know, there were tongue-in-cheek moments in there, but even Diana said, no, no, no, I bet you there were moments Andy Reid was ready to fire him. My hunch as to why he's been turned down all of these times with all of these interviews is that it's not because they don't think he can coach,

not because they don't think he's smart, not because they don't think he can motivate players, is that he's one of these guys that is in your face constantly, and that's fine, but eventually there's an expiration date on that. and you know that it's like this guy can do it he's respected but he can be probably a bit overbearing and i think that kansas city was ready to move on from him i think they would have hired him back had washington not offered because it would have looked really bad had andy reed not hired biannami back after publicly being such an endorser of biannami but my guess is that he's good at what he does

he's well liked and he's well respected, but there's just like we all have in our lives, there's just a bit of an expiration date ultimately on people that can be a little bit overbearing and over the line and, you know, by the way, not shy about expressing his opinion. That's my guess. Now, it has to be a little bit more than that when 15 teams, not one person decided to take a swing at it until Washington. But I think yesterday was a day in which you saw a guy that has the ability to communicate.

He's got charisma. You can see why some of his players, including Patrick Mahomes, continue to come to his defense, why a lot of players came to his defense after LaShawn McCoy was critical of him earlier in the week. But at the same time, I have no idea what to expect from him as an actual coach when the games began. with Sam Howell and whomever else he has a quarterback. That evaluation, those thoughts can't become truly conclusive until we see them play games. Some of you are ready, already, to decide that he is the greatest hire

in recent franchise history. I'm not. I'm in wait and see mode. Cooley, go ahead. I think you're right on the breaking down of the press conference. We can do the third person and we can do the coach speak stuff, obviously. Okay. All right.

That is that world. And B. Enemy would be very easy in seven meetings to do BNemi. He would be a training camp target. Hey, you go do B&M on the stage. And it would be easy to do. But nothing he's saying is not what is normal in that world for any coach. I mean, Gibbs was so easy to do. Mike Shanahan, for obvious reasons, was super easy to do.

All these guys have. You know what I'm saying? Well, you did. You would impersonate some of those guys, including Gibbs and Shanahan. It would be fun to do, but... Yeah. Yeah, no, everyone would do it. He's a character.

I mean, he, and I think he has character. But he is, you know he's in the room when he's in the room. No doubt about it. Before I get to the overall takeaway of the entire thing, I think he did do a pretty darn good job of deferring anything as to his duties, responsibilities for Kansas City, who by the way, he continued to refer to as we, which is hard after 10 years. Sure.

You know, we, we, we, we. It's like, no, they, they, they, or, you know, together in Kansas City, it was still we. You'll get away from that. And that didn't bother me in any way, shape, or form. The potential head coaching role, you know, my feet are where, they are or whatever he said. But at the end of the year, we'll look at that. Okay, so one year?

Because at one point he did say, you know, we'll think about that at the end of the year. Right, I know. But I thought, yeah. All right. But again, I don't hate that. Here's what I really pick out of it, though, other than some of the fun stuff that I just pick up on.

I can't help but not pick up on some of the little things because that's just the life I was around forever, and that's what we picked up on, because that's how we joked about our coach. I think right away you see a high level of energy enthusiasm. He's upbeat, he's motivated, he's animated, and those are all things you need as a coach, which really ultimately gives him the ability to communicate well with people, and I think you'll have the ability to communicate with this guy,

the guys will trust and believe in him. The way he talks about Coach Rivera and the staff, and the way he talks about Andy Reid, is you see the guy, he's got to have an unconditional loyalty to staff and to his head coach into the organization he works for. And that's really proven. I obviously had a chance to leave Kansas City or wanted to leave or the interview, but I'm sure he had an unbelievable loyalty to Andy Reid.

I think he's got, and what seems like a good ability to really discern the talent in his other coaches and the guys they're going to play for him. And I even liked at some point, like, yeah, there are some great players and they've done some great things. but I haven't had the appropriate opportunity to evaluate every single one of these guys.

And that's really true. I mean, I'm sure he spent a lot of time watching these guys over the last week getting ready for the interview. But until you start to watch individual practices and some of the stuff they've done over the last year, I mean, you pick up a lot from game film, but a lot of the guys that don't start, but don't play a ton. You want to see how they practice. You want to see how they work. You want to see what the potential is.

And I think that he has, you know, the patience to do that. And I believe he can do that. I would guarantee there's a real fundamental knowledge of what he's doing, of what he wants to do. There's an expertise there. My biggest concern moving forward, and it'll play out, and you'll see exactly where it is, is one, can he put together a game plan? Is he going to outsmart a defensive coordinator? Because some of the smartest guys in the world and the guys that are best at adapting in the world are defensive coordinators and the defensive side of the ball. They adapt and they change and they figure it out.

And then, too, is he an effective teacher? Because I don't know if he's the teacher in Kansas City. And really essentially the offensive coordinator, the guy installing the offense is a full-time teacher. And he even said, and I love that he said this, he said, you know, everyone learns different. And I've got to find a way to get through to every single person. Right. Can he do it? Is that something that he's able to do?

It is easy to say and understand everyone learns different. It's much harder to say, am I willing to commit to the learning process of every single player on the team? And the great teachers and motivators do that. Was he running the offensive meetings for the chief? Maybe, I don't know. You know, he didn't talk a ton about exactly what he's doing other than, yeah, I'm excited to be the offensive coordinator. And so that will be something. Is he a game planner?

can he scheme it the way he wants to scheme it, and can he get it through to the players how exactly he wants to do it so they understand it? And I think those are what he's talking about, is the challenges that he's excited about having. I would be excited about the guy if I was in that locker room. I would be excited to work with him. You know, the little stuff he talked about football, he talked about the language.

Yeah, we're going to do a lot of the same stuff. Some of the past concepts will change, but the language is going to change. And we've talked about that before. it's going from a numbered system into what is a West Coast system. And so the past concepts will change quite a bit. He'll have to make some adjustments to where you would have a play where you could say it was like, let's go red right close, fullback, right outside, 323 F swing to same type of formation. And now it's three jet theme Puma.

you know, or X-corner derby or terminology in words, which is not terminology in numbers. So they're going to have to learn a new language. It's his job to teach the new language. That will take all of the off-season, all of training camp,

especially for the guys that have a bit in a West Coast system. Wasn't like the touchdown to Cadarius Tony at the goal line? Didn't they call that corn dog? It was one word, and that was the play, and everybody knew what they were doing? Why don't you just have a bunch of names like that? I didn't hear it.

I didn't hear it. You can have seven or eight plays that are calling and run at one word. A lot of times when you have a hurry-up situation where you want, did he catch the ball or not? And we've got to get the line of scrimmage. Just go corn dog, cornedog. But essentially it means you're going to run it out of one formation, at one way. It's one play. But you can install the protections into it.

You know, you don't have to call, like, a three-jet or an action jet. Or, like, you don't have to call a Max Protect. You know, you have to call Joe Gibbs Flash and Lightning into protection. What's Flash and Lightning? Corn Dogs, Jackie, Corn Dogs. What is Flash and Lightning? Flash and Lightning was Joe's seven-man protection. Flash was to the right, lightning was to the left.

Got it. And it was just a full protection. But, no, if you do that, it's a lot easier, especially if you get a formation where all of a sudden you got three guys to the right and your tight ends, then back to the left. And instead of saying like, okay, three, two, stud left, zoom, let's tighten in the X. So set left, zoom, tout, bang three jet, zebra cells, the snare, Y basic. Like, that's a play call. Yeah, crazy. And instead, let's call it corn dogs.

and that'll be the difference the listening, like, we don't have to go clusters the left, three-jet, Y, bingo cross, X scout take off. You know, let's call that,

let's call that Mahi-Mahy. Yeah, why not? Or like, all our new plays this week are going to be, like, fair,

like, like, county fair foods. Not gross. Corn dog, cotton candy. Yeah Navajo Taco Cracker Jack

Cracker Jack So So yeah There are things you can do in that But like You can't You can't be as versatile With flipping formations

And motions Stuff are changing Or alternating They're calling Run of play I mean a lot of A lot of teams do that They have

The guy was around a coach They had a natural disaster package And Tornado Hurricane Earthquake Surve tsunami Yeah.

Yeah. Blizzard. Exactly. Yeah. Blizzard. Oh, gosh. Blizzard's a good one. Yeah. So a lot of teams will do that stuff.

And, no, that is just a language barrier. You're just going to learn a new language. Right. Well, I mean, for Sam Hal, for Sam Hal, he's basically starting from scratch anyway. He is. The one nice thing for the quarterback is you get a chance through the year to see and start to understand defensive coverages and how

guys are going to move and react on the back end of the defense. And I don't know how far along he is with some of that stuff. But there's just a lot more, a lot more you see week in and week out from NFL defenses than you do in a college defense. There's a lot more to prepare for. What else do you have from his brother? I'm still not convinced, by the way, that it's just, it's Sam Al's job. There's so much in the quarterback. The quarterback situation in the NFL right now is insanity.

There's a lot that can happen. You know what? I wanted to say one other thing I had in my notes, and that is he made reference to Martin Mayhew multiple times, Eric Stokes, multiple times, even Marty Herney, when it came to kind of looking at the roster. I think he will have meaningful input, not that he shouldn't, because I think Scott Turner had,

was able to lob in some of his thoughts on various things as well. But with respect to the quarterback, if you're going to give him this assistant head coach, offensive coordinator and all of this autonomy, which I've been told he's going to have, you've got to let him be involved in this offseason and going out and creating the quarterback room that he wants. I would 100% agree. I would 100% agree with that.

And make the decisions on the quarterbacks, on who starts, et cetera. And I wanted to just add, I said the evaluation begins in September. It's actually, this is a long evaluation period for Eric B. Enemy. We do not know at this point if he will have an NFL caliber quarterback under center next year or in the shotgun. We don't know that. And without that, it doesn't matter how great of a coordinator you are. I mean, Cooley will be able to see and maybe even we'll be able to see to a certain degree if he's coaching up the level of talent and the level of quarterback he has to beyond what their capabilities are. And that will be obviously encouraging.

but you're not going to get the overwhelming results without the quarterback. It's going to hurt you as soon as you started installing. I said this a ton of times to you. I believe this. It's really, really nice. When you start installing this new offense and this new language and your quarterback runs it. You've got a guy that understands it and gets it and runs it. So when you're trying to operate in practice and you're saying,

hey, we're going to read this as a one read and we're going to work to here, and if we don't work here, this is why we're going here. And you see it happen with your own guys running it. You don't have to pull up Chief's film every single time. It's nice. But he will use Chief's film, Monty? Will he use Chief's film to teach? He's got it, right?

100% he's going to install with Chief's film. But the sooner rather than the later, you can get to using Commander's film and using more of our practice film and having the place. oh, I saw the way Mahomes and Kelsey did this, and I see why McKinnon's going here. I get it, but it's nice to see us doing it.

And it's nice to see it work, and to be understood, and a lot of times it's hard with the young quarterback, because you want to, you have, like, I'm sure right now he's got a day one about, or a day one installation,

a day two installation, all the way through day 17 installation. We want to get through this stuff, But if you get to day four and you go, wow, I can't go to day five. And I definitely can't get to day seven. And I got to reset. And we really need to go day one back through the process again. Then your overall install is limited.

And you don't want to limit what you're doing as far as insulation. Right. But you've got to have the quarterback that can execute it, can get it called, get to the line of scrimmage, and run it. No doubt. That's the, that's the, literally that is the key to the car. You want to turn it on, that guy's the key. That's the ignition switch. That's where we start.

There's a lot of other stuff that's got to work. But that's how you turn it on. Anything else on Bienemy? I don't know what else to say on BNemi personally. I'm excited for him. I really, I really, yeah, I really enjoyed his interview. I really like, here's going to be a lot. anything I really like. Whether or not he wanted, he really wanted to be a head coach,

anything didn't work in Kansas City, he really does seem comfortable and grounded and willing to commit fully to the position he's in right now. And I really appreciated that. I totally came very clearly out of a interview. Totally agree with that. In fact, I think that may be, there are two reasons more than any other than I'm rooting for him. Number one, whenever somebody has been in this position where there's been a little bit of a narrative that's developed that in many ways can be embarrassing to him. I'd love to see him prove all of those people wrong. Number two is, in this dovetails off the first, is I've never heard him once complain about it. I've never heard him once, you know, play like he's a victim of something.

I mean, there are plenty of people out there that will make that case for him, whether it's inaccurate, depiction of what happened or not. But it would be great to see somebody like that who just puts his head down and says, hey, there are reasons for that happening. And now I'm going to prove everybody wrong, but not saying he's going to prove everybody wrong, that would be great. And then for the franchise, especially if it's got a new owner, to have, you know, a guy that comes in that can really lift you offensively and make you better than maybe even

what your overall talent level is, that would be phenomenal. I'm still not sure as to what we will see, though. Have no idea. And as I've said many times, a year from now with new ownership, it may be a moot point because if they don't kill it next year, you know, win 11 games be incredibly dynamic offensively. A new owner more likely than not is going to want to bring in the people that he wants. His own front office, his own coaching staff.

And so a year from now, all of this attention to this particular hire, may, you know, be a bit overdone in hindsight. But we'll see. Because they've got a chance to impress the new owner as well. No doubt. The other thing that's really interesting with the Bianney thing for Washington in general is you want him to immediately have success. But I think time after someone else asked in the presser.

Did you have to come here to elevate your career? and now he didn't answer, which was the right thing to do. But if he does have great success, they're going to just lose a guy in a year. Yeah. I think that would be the instance. You are bringing him in, you're going to install this offense, but then you're going to lose him to here. Well, you could... You've got to believe, and I believe personally, that if Eric's been to me, leaves Mahomes,

leaves Andy Reid, goes to Washington, installs an offense, somehow, whatever, whoever it is, makes him a top 15 offense that he's getting a head job next year outside of the umbrella of Andy Reed and now it's Andy Reed and Ron Rivera saying this guy can do this he's getting the job and you're going to lose him a year

I agree with you but what if the job is here what if Ron Rivera says... That would be terrific for everyone involved yeah what does what I suggested with John Gruden and Sean McVeigh eight years ago you did you said you said

If it were me and I own the team, I would actually make Sean McVeigh the head coach and see if Jay wants to stick around in an offensive coordinator role. Because I don't want to lose Sean McVe. You would have been right about that. But then again, for Sean, would he have really wanted to stay here and be the head coach and continue to be the head coach in an organization with Dan running it? He's smarter than that. So the answer to that may have been, no, I think I'm going to get a better job.

All right. I wanted to really quickly update everybody. So I'm assuming that most of you saw the story that broke late yesterday. The Post had it, Mark Maskey, Nikki Javala, Liz Clark, about Jeff Bezos hiring an investment brokerage firm, Allen and Company. They handled both the Tepper purchase of the Carolina Panthers and the Walmart family, the Walton's purchase of the Denver Broncos. The story essentially is, that he's hired that investment firm to evaluate a possible bid for Washington. Now, you know, the process on this thing, and I was told this after my radio show this morning, is, you know, don't be absolutely convinced that he's going to make an offer. He's now in a position, if Snyder allows it, to do all the due diligence that Josh Harrison, the mystery bidder have been doing, and maybe a third bidder as well, because apparently three, have taken tours of the facility. And now he's able to get deep into the books and really look at the business and see what he should offer.

But the NFL wants Bezos probably to be involved to help elevate the price to where Snyder says it's a no-brainer. I still think a big question is whether or not Snyder wants to sell it. And this whole idea of whether or not Bezos will be asked by Snyder to sell the post as kind of some gesture of goodwill. I still don't understand what that does. All of you are convinced that he's going to have to sell the post to buy the team. Even if Dan and Tanya believe the posts are responsible for the predicament that they are in, what does Bezos selling the post with them gone do? I don't know.

I guess it's kind of the petty tit-for-tat thing that may be in play. I don't know. But one of the things I was told is don't think that he's absolutely 100% going to make a bid and buy the team. He's more capable than anybody else. But this is like the first step to getting essentially involved in the due diligence process that the other bidders are involved in. By the way, Diana Rusini told me this morning, just a hunch, she thinks that A, Josh Harris is the frontrunner, and B, this isn't going to be done until the summer. The other part of this is Charles Gasperino, who is a Fox business commentator. and he has tweeted out information regarding the sale.

I think he is a guy that knows Snyder. He tweeted out, and Bezos maybe as well, he tweeted out the following just about an hour ago. Quote, as Jeff Bezos takes a step to bid on commanders, it takes a step to bid on commanders, current owner Dan Snyder is telling the NFL that he is not selling the team for less than $6 billion, sources tell him. The NFL is really pushing now Bezos to make a bid

because he can easily meet the league's 30% owner equity rule. I've talked about this before, but you've got to put 30% down, essentially in cash, so that would be $1.8 billion, and that eliminates a lot of bidders when you've got to be that liquid. A lot of guys have lots of billions. not a lot, but it's not necessarily liquid, you know, billions. Bezos has liquid billions. Gasparino continues. Partnership with Jay-Z remains a possibility, but Bezos is said to want to retain control. Questions continue to swirl in league circles about Bezos unloading the Washington Post

as part of the deal. One rumored buyer of the post, Mike Bloomberg, story developing. So that's Charles Gasparino, who's been reporting on this for Fox Business News, says that Snyder's not selling for less than $6 billion. And we've already heard that guys like Harris and others who have looked at the prospectus on this

don't think it's worth anywhere near $6 billion. So Bezos may be the only person out there willing or capable of doing $6 billion, which means that hopefully Bezos comes up with the $6 billion and buys the team. No matter of what you think of Jeff Bezos, no matter what you think of his politics, no matter what you think of their business practices, whatever,

Bezos could be the only guy willing or capable of meeting a $6 billion price stack. We'll see. You have any thoughts on this? Well, here's the thing you would compare this to, or I would compare this to, honestly, is maybe he is going to overpay, but it's almost like the quarterback market.

I mean, with Kirk, you would overpay at the time, but five years later, it seems like a good deal. Washington's not going to lose value over the next 15 years. As long as Bezos isn't trying to flip it, he might not, in the end,

sell, make as much money if you were to sell it 20 years from now or 15 years from now, but 20 years from now it's going to be 10 billion to buy an NFL team like that Yeah No doubt

I mean you're not getting you're not getting a team on sale Like when you go buy Like Apple There are times where you can get Apple stock on sale But it's It's Apple It's gonna keep going up You would assume

NFL franchises don't go down In value They don't go down So even if you're saying Forbes has it at whatever, $4 billion, and everyone says you should pay $4.5. If you want it, it's $6 billion. It's not like you're going to just piss away a billion and a half dollars 20 years from now. Right.

It'll come to it. It'll end up being that value. Josh Harris owns the 76ers. The 76ers were purchased by Josh Harris in 2011 for $280 million. And the Phoenix Suns just sold for $4. billion. So it is possible that Josh Harris could put himself into a position to buy the team if he sold a significant stake in the 76ers to come up with the cash to put down. The league also has a $1 billion limit on what you can borrow to purchase a team too. So in addition to the 30%

in cash, they'd have to come up with all. You know, the bottom line is depending on the price, they'd have to come up with a lot more. But I think that's, I think that's, the big question here is, will Dan sell it to Bezos? If Bezos is the only one capable of meeting his price, will he sell it to him? I think he would. Um, but... Six billion? Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. For six billion dollars? I think he would. Okay. Think you think about the billions. Yeah, but with him? He might not, he's not going to cut, he's, like, maybe that's where it's at and he knows that's where it's at. He knows it's Bezos. And he knows who it is.

Ownership knows who it is. Well, yeah. He's saying, I'm not cutting Bezos a deal. I'm not even giving a fair market. I won't give him a fair market. Well, you understand. If he wants to overpay. Do you understand the conversation? The conversation as to why people have

reported that Dan may have an issue selling to Bezos. Bezos owns the Washington Post. Dan and Tanya blame the Washington Post for at least some of the predicament they're in, if not most of it. So that's the issue there.

I understand the issue. I'm just saying for an extra $2 billion. I think I would just go ahead and pull the trigger. Well, you would, and I would. I wouldn't care if he insulted everybody in my family if he was going to pay a billion and a half more for the business and I wanted

to sell. But, you know, the skins wouldn't trade Kirk Cousins to San Francisco for the number two pick in the draft because they didn't want to trade him to the Shanahan's. So there is a track record of pettiness. I get it. Yeah. All right.

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Perfect for March Madness as an example. And they'll let you cash out immediately. So the athletic reported this morning that Russell Wilson to stay in Seattle wanted Pete Carroll and John Schneider, the general manager, fired. Man, that is. a bombshell of a story that he wanted and went to ownership. It wouldn't have been Paul Allen

at that point. I think he would have passed at that point and wanted Pete Carroll and John Schneider fired if he were going to stay in Seattle. Now Russell Wilson responded with a tweet and he never tweets and responds to this stuff ever. He tweeted early this morning, Mountain Time. I guess he was in Mountain Time. I love Pete. He was a father figure to me and John believed in me and drafted me as well. I never wanted them fired. All any of us wanted was to win. I'll always have respect for them and love for Seattle. His agent came out and said that that's an entirely fabricated story. But I'll tell you one thing we've learned about Russell Wilson over the last year, Cooley. He was the diva of all divas because John Schneider tried to trade him in 2016,

according to that ESPN August story or September story to Cleveland for the number one pick in the draft. They wanted to draft Josh Allen, potentially. They even looked at Mahomes. Which is all clear motive to why he would want them fired. It would be clear motive for him to go in and say, if I'm here, they're not. They don't want me here.

They didn't want me here. So if I'm staying here, I don't want them here. Yeah, if it's... It would be clear motive. And by the way, him tweeting and saying whatever he says in a tweet, what is he supposed to say? Nothing. He'd be the evil dude of all time?

And say, I mean, he could have said nothing, but nothing essentially is the admission of guilt. I wonder how... He says nothing? He's going to go, oh, man. He has nothing to say to that. Like, he tweeted the right thing. I just don't know if I believe it. I think we've learned so much about Russell Wilson.

There's just too much out there that speaks to him being a massive diva. And yet, with all of that said, all they did with him was win and win big. And he was there, and I don't know what he'll be with Sean Payton next year in Denver, but for about a seven to eight, nine-year period, whatever it was, I guess nine years, he was as good an off-scheduled quarterback as we've seen in the NFL. He had limitations, and you always pointed him out as a pocket passer. He couldn't see the field from the pocket. But as an off-scheduled quarterback, he was brilliant,

and they won a shitload with him, which is always why that story, for me, preseason, was shocking, that they were trying to trade him, they were trying to replace him the whole time. And then they did sign him to the long-term deal. But, you know, we've gotten the stories recently from Richard Sherman and Marshawn Lynch about how you couldn't even call him that he wouldn't give his cell phone out to anybody. You had to go through his administrative assistant if you wanted to reach him if you were one of his teammates. You know, he's got his own coach working out in Denver with him over and above the coaching staff that's there.

Sean Payton isn't going to deal with any of that. Right now, prediction. Does Sean Payton make Russell Wilson again? Yes. I think so too. Yes. I think also a big part of last year makes Russell Wilson again. I think that was embarrassing.

If it wasn't embarrassing, something's wrong with you. The way that team performed and the way he performed after that contract and what they traded for him, I think he's embarrassed. I would be incredibly embarrassed by what he did last year, or if that was me. All right, good job. Just saying that's not me. So, I mean, I don't know. I think Russell Wilson can still be a great quarterback in this league,

and I think there's a lot of things he can do. And John Payton's a trip of coach. He's doing a good job putting staff together as well. I'm interested in what Denver does next year. Yeah, I think he gets Russell Wilson back. I don't know. Just the drama of the NFL is unbelievable. Incredible.

Aaron Rogers coming out of the darkness retreat two days early. The Rogers thing to me is what's holding up the Derek Carr thing. Derek Carr is not going to, you know, get an offer until Aaron Rogers, you know, is either. traded to the Jets or not traded to the Jets. I think Aaron Rogers is going to end up back in Green Bay. A lot of people do not agree with that, but we shall see. All right, good job.

I don't have anything on the Caps trade other than, you know, they're clearly trying to sell right now because they don't have a team that can contend. They probably won't make the playoffs. So Orlov and Hathaway are gone. I refer to people like Tark, Elbashir, and Ben Rabi and some of those guys who all say, It's clear that they are selling before the deadline. I'll be back on Monday. Good job, Chris. Thanks.

See you, Kevin. What in a tease, everybody? Told you he'd be here today. Back on Monday. At the end of the day, Eric Biennames is a ball coach. At the end of the day, Eric Beenemy wants to know the people who he's going to work with. Eric Beenemy wants to make sure that these guys understand that, you know, we're going to learn to put consistent behavior on tape.

All right, but also understanding that when we're playing for each other and doing things for the greater good of the organization, also seeing the big picture that this game ain't that hard. It can be a whole lot of fun, but it's going to be fun when you're making the necessary sacrifices to make each other better. That's some of the things that I'm excited about. Those are some of the things I'm looking forward to. And so when it comes to job titles and all that, you guys got to understand. Yes, I am the assistant head coach. I am the officer coordinator.

My job is to get these guys to go out and do and be the best that they can be. So that's going to be my focus right now.