The Kevin Sheehan Show - Blough Hired As OC!

Episode Date: January 10, 2026

Towards the end of Kevin's first segment, the news broke that Assistant QB Coach David Blough has been elevated to Offensive Coordinator and he gave his immediate in-the-moment reaction to the news. Before the news broke, Kevin recapped Miami's thrilling win over Ole Miss in the Fiesta Bowl and answered a few emails about Kliff Kingsbury's 2025 season. Clinton Portis joined Kevin for a conversation about his 'Canes along with his thoughts on the Skins' miserable 5-12 season. Kevin had 5 "Smell Test" picks as well. For all your football betting needs: DCRELOAD at MyBookie for a 50% Deposit Match Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it, but you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Sheehan Show. Here's Kevin. Chambers connects the snap. Back petals. Launches to the end zone. Games head home to play for a championship.

Was that pass interference to end the game last night? I think it may have been. It wasn't your traditional Hail Mary jump ball play. That's why I think that maybe it should have been called. The show's presenting sponsor is always Window Nation, 86690 Nation or WindowNation.com, if you need new windows. No Jay Gruden on this football Friday show. Jay's actually coaching at the Hula Bowl this weekend,

so he'll be back with me next week. Replacing Jay on the show today, Clinton Portis. I know Clinton is thrilled with last night's game. We'll get Clinton's thoughts on the game last night, get his thoughts on the skin season, and what he thinks about Kingsbury and a potential replacement and even get Clinton's Super Bowl pick starting in the next segment. I've got my Super Bowl pick in the opening segment of the show. I'll get to that in a bit. I've got smell test picks at the end of the show, although I'm going to give you two of them right now for tonight. Oregon plus three and a half against Indiana tonight and the under in the Oregon Indiana game,

under 48 and a half. So the underdog, Oregon plus three and a half, and the under 48 and a half in tonight's second semi-final game, the Peach Bowl in Atlanta. I loved the game last night. I loved the game last night, in part because I was really rooting for Carson Beck. You know, in recent years, I've actually found myself rooting more so than ever before for players and even coaches that aren't associated with my favorite team. Now, I think it's a result of my favorite teams not being great for a long period of time. Skins, Terps, Wizards primarily are my three teams that I root passionately for.

Now, I think what happens when your teams aren't good for long, You branch out and you start rooting for other things. Now, for me, let me be clear about this, it would never be other teams that I would root for. I don't have another favorite NFL team. I don't have another favorite college team. I don't have another favorite NBA team. I've never understood the people that say,

you know, Washington's my number one, but the Ravens are my number two. Or Washington's my NFC team, the bills are my AFC team. team. I don't get that. I never have. I don't think I ever will. I think if you're truly a fan in a deep down visceral way, there's no room for number two. If you're not a deep down, emotional, passionate fan of a team, there is room for other teams. But if you're a real hardcore fan, you'll never hear me say, oh, the Wizards are my number one, but I really love the Celtics too. And And I root for them too. No.

If you're a real fan of a team, there's no room in the same sport for another, in my opinion. But I have found in recent years that I have rooted for players and even some coaches, even in the same sport where I have a favorite team. I think many of you know that have listened to me for a while. I'm a big Kirk Cousins fan. Now, let me just say that back in the day, Mark Rippin, Art Monk, Gary Clark, Dexter Manley. When they left to go play for other teams,

I followed them. I rooted for them as long as they weren't playing Washington. But I definitely would pay attention, especially. I remember Art Monk, Jets, Eagles, Ripin with Indy, with Cleveland. Mark Mosley with Cleveland. Oh my God, I was rooting so hard for Mark Mosley as a Cleveland Brown kicker. he kicked a game winner in a double overtime playoff win for the Browns back in 86. That was the year, by the way, they lost to John Elway on the drive in the AFC championship game.

So Kirk Cousins is kind of a bit of that, but it's been a bit more, and I have definitely followed Kirk's career since he left here. Kauai Leonard, I've been a massive fan of Kauai Leonard since. the minute he came into the NBA. And I look, when he's playing and he's healthy, I check out box scores late in night, see how he's doing sometimes during a game if I'm not doing anything else. I mean, in recent days,

because he has been on an absolute tear, I mean, I have followed some of those games on my phone or, you know, clicked on to some highlights or even turned to NBA TV if the game's in the fourth quarter. I mean, I'm a big fan, and I root for him. I mean, the Wizards are my team, but if they suck right now, I'm rooting for him. And I guess by extension, I'm rooting for his team so that he ends up playing in some big games, but the Clippers aren't my team.

You know, sometimes actually in rooting for players or coaches, it's more about selfishly wanting to be right. You know, like Aaron Rogers right now, I am invested in Aaron Rogers. because I went out on a limb, you know, in the off season and at the beginning of this year, saying, I thought Aaron Rogers played well last year. When I watched him with the Jets last year, I saw a guy that's still through the ball like Aaron Rogers. And so I've been rooting for him this year because I want to be right. I remember a few years ago rooting for Matt Stafford. I got into those debates with people all the time.

I thought Matt Stafford was a borderline elite level quarterback, and there was always a lot of pushback because he didn't win in the playoffs. So I remember rooting for him. I remember rooting for Kyle Shanahan, and you know what? It took a while when he left here. James Winston. James Winston, I've been the biggest fan of for so long.

If you've been listening to me for a while now, there was like a three or a four, maybe even a five-year stretch where I think I predicted before the season started that James Winston was going to be an MVP candidate in Tampa. And then definitely when he got to New Orleans with Sean Peyton. That was when Brady went to Tampa, Winston ended up in New Orleans. And I thought this is when he's going to stop throwing all these interceptions. This is when his true superstardom is going to be. begin. I've just always been a big James Winston fan. And even when he was in Tampa, I was always rooting for him to kind of, and it was because I predicted that he'd be great. And that draft where he came out one, two with Mario-Dota, I just thought that he always looked the part. That one's not going to be realized, I think, at this point. I think he should have started, by the way, earlier this season in New York instead of Russell Wilson. The Giants would have been better off with James. at quarterback.

But yeah, a lot of times just kind of rooting for players because I like the player, but a lot of times I'm just rooting for the player or the coach because I want to be right about whatever I predicted about that player or coach. So last night, I was rooting big time for Carson Beck. I've been rooting for him all season long. He's a real interesting college football story. Those that don't know it, last year, the SEC championship game, December of 2024. He was injured badly for Georgia playing against Texas.

It was his UCL, his elbow, serious injury. It looked like he may never be able to throw the football the same way again. And for Carson Beck, he was not a dual threat quarterback. If you're just watching for the first time, he is a true pocket passer. You know, 6-4, statu-esque. Now, he's been making some really good plays off-schedule as a runner, but he's not a dual-threat guy. I liked him at Georgia.

I got into debates about him with Stanford Steve, with Scott, with my guy Denton. And I always thought, he looks like a pro quarterback to me, but Georgia didn't want him. The fans were thrilled that, you know, he was moving on. There were serious questions about his health. Miami gave him four and a half million dollars to go to South Florida and play for the canes this year. There were stories during the offseason about his rehab.

Would he be the same guy? Meantime, there were a ton of stories, a ton of stories out there about him, let's just say, being kind of weak in the intangibles area. Georgia fans seemed to be really glad that he was gone. So there was a lot about that. And I always liked him as a quarterback. So early in the year, like I said, if he's healthy with that offensive line, they can win the national championship. He can have a huge year and he can end up being a really high draft pick. I remember Denton pushed back on me.

A few others did said I was nuts. And the truth is they've been right all season long. And he's not going to be a first round pick. I mean, I think he can be an NFL quarterback, but I, early in the season, said, I think I'm watching a first round pick. And then he, you know, really, you know, really shit the bed in a couple of games midseason. I mean, disqualifying, you know, playoff games. It disqualified from the playoff, the Louisville loss. He had four picks in that game.

I mean, he was throwing it to the other team all night long, had a terrible pick in the SMU game that they lost, but they made it into the playoff, you know, barely, and he's played really well. But last night was special, man, really special. When he took the field with three minutes to go, you could sense, and you could hear it and they talked about it, you know, Herb Street and Fowler last night. There's a lot of people that have doubted Carson Beck for a while now, and I think a lot of hardcore college football fans did not think that he would doubt. deliver last night with three minutes to go. And he did. He did. And I was, I was into it. What a final

drive. What a moment for him. He still has one game left, you know. But that final drive in the Fiesta Bowl against Ole Miss, and Ole Miss put up a great fight, and Trinidad Chambliss was outstanding. But that drive is etched already into Miami football history. And they'll get the champion. game at home. The game itself last night, if you watched it or even if you didn't, Miami dominated the game for three quarters. Dominated, but it wasn't that way on the scoreboard. They went to the fourth quarter up by a point in a game that felt like they should be up by at least two to three scores. I mean, they owned the line of scrimmage. And their offensive coordinator, Shannon Dawson, I talked about this after they beat Texas A&M. It must be that he gets bored and he

just wants to dial up these trick plays. They ran a flea flicker on the play after Mark Fletcher carried the defense for 19 yards. And I'm like, what are you doing? Like it was so obvious in this game last night, it is funny, right, that a lot of times the conversation about play calling is not throw the ball more. It always kind of defaults to run the ball more. I think that's pretty much universal in this sport. But they should have done that against Texas A&M, and they survived. And last night, I felt like there's no reason to do anything fancy. Like, you're owning the line of scrimmage. Fletcher in the game, 22 carries 133 yards. It should have been 30 for 170 in the game. You know, something like that. Beck threw it 37 times. He was great.

But anyway, Miami dominated the game. They just missed on opportunities, and I thought it was kind of on the offensive coordinator. They dropped Miami did in this game four interceptions, dropped in their hands, four interceptions. They were a sick team apparently coming in with the flu. They got hurt, injured. They hurt themselves with penalties and dropped passes. And then came the fourth quarter. I mean, four lead changes, so dramatic.

The last Miami drive, I mean, Beck delivering on every third down. And then after, you know, he ran it in for a touchdown with 18 seconds left, Shambliss gets old miss to the 35 of Miami with five seconds to go. And I do think, I do think that that was not your traditional 50-yard line midfield, throw the ball straight up in the air, jump ball in the end zone, Hail Mary. That was a normal throw to an end zone with two receivers in the area, but not four, with four defenders, and there's no doubt that was defensive pass interference. Now, for those of you that don't know the rules in college football,

the ball would not have gone to the one-yard line. It's not a spot foul. It's a 15-yard penalty. So it would have gone to the 20, and they still would have had to score with one, time down left from the 20. But great football game. I'm so happy Miami won the game. I'm thrilled for Carson Beck. And now he can really, you know, put himself into all-time Miami lore and legend with a championship win in Miami. They'll face Indiana, Oregon at Hard Rock on Monday, January, what is that? The 18th, the 19th, right? Monday's the 12th.

a week from Monday night. A great football game. Tonight should be a really good football game. Yeah, a lot of Indiana action. That's why I gave out Oregon, but looking forward to watching tonight's game. This from Robbie. Robbie writes, Kevin,

you have lost it with this Kingsbury got more out of less take. His offense is outdated. The Chip Kelly run as many plays as you can, as you can, hurry up offense hasn't worked in years. The best offenses aren't in shotgun the entire game. He's a college coach, period. End of story. You know, Robbie, this one, like some of these others that I've gotten similar to this, I've gotten a lot of, you know, Kingsbury, you're high. He isn't very good. Glad he's fired. And he didn't coach him up this year. I totally

disagree. But Robbie, some advice for you. When you have the big open, you know, like Kevin, you have lost it with this Kingsbury got more out of less take. You know, follow it up with some evidence to, you know, prove that he didn't get more out of less. You didn't do that, Robbie. Maybe you just forgot to do it because you got wrapped up in all the other stuff, Chip Kelly's offense, you know, under center stuff. But if you're going to tell me that I'm wrong, that I've lost it, that Kingsbury didn't get more out of less, prove it to me. The problem is you wouldn't be able to prove it. Kingsbury absolutely got more out of less this year, people. That is not to say that the offense was great, like two separate conversations here. You know, when I say more out of less, the less is

obvious, right? The less is he didn't have his best players, you know, and beyond that, actually didn't even have his second best players on offense. The skill positions offensively, quarterback, running back, wide receiver, you know, as I've said recently, if it had just been quarterback and all of the other positions were healthy, you're still at a major disadvantage. You have less when you don't have your starting quarterback. Nine times out of ten, if you're starting quarterback starts and finishes four games, you're going to suck if that quarterback's great. But it was a lot more than Jaden. Washington lost more starter man games than any team in the league on both sides of the ball.

So the less, you know, Cliff Kingsbury got more out of less. The less is obvious, I would hope, to Robbie and those of you that disagree with me. The less is he didn't have his players. the more that he got out of the less isn't as obvious. The more part isn't as obvious. But I'll start with this. When on offense, you don't have your best players, then automatically the expectation levels change. You know, the realistic expectations for the players he had on the field was,

let's be realistic. He should have had a bad offense with, no starting quarterback, no starting receiver, no starting running back. The expectations, based on what he had, the less, should have been also minimal. So I don't think that, you know, what was achieved was bad. I think it was a pretty, you know, decent year, not great year offensively, but they finished, and I've mentioned this before, fourth in the league, Red Zone offense. That's not bad. That's not mediocre. That's fourth best red zone in the NFL.

That means 28 teams had a worse red zone offense than Washington's. They finished 12th in a very important statistical category. Yards per play. They were 12th out of 32 teams. That's pretty good. That's top half of the league. They had the fourth best rushing offense in the league. Not bad. Fourth best out of 32 teams. Washington's offense this year was for the most part top 16, top half of the league in the majority of offensive categories that are important.

Now, I will mention this. DVOA. I reference DVOA all the time. 23rd offensively in DVOA, so not top half of the league. And I think a very respected statistical measurement. So there was that. But I didn't make the case that Washington's offense was great or even good. I've made the case that it was better than it should have been considering the lost players.

And I'll add to that. Also considering how bad the defense was and the predicament the defense put the team in week in and week out, that's a factor in all of this. So, yeah, I think Cliff got more out of less, but that doesn't mean that I thought the offense was great or even good. Just based on the expectations of the number of players that were lost, yeah, I think he exceeded that. Now, Robbie and others that feel the way Robbie does,

with respect to the part of your email where you just kind of hit me with all of the, you know, social media criticisms of Cliff. You know, his offense is outdated. It hasn't worked in years. It worked last year, didn't it? Was it outdated? 11 and a half months ago? Their offense last year was elite.

Did one season outdated? Seriously? We're not even a year removed from 45 points and 481 yards on the road against the one seed. Come on, man. Outdated. Hasn't worked in years. Chip Kelly offense, where he tries to run as many plays with the hurry up? Not really. Not this year. He didn't. They finished. Listen to this, Robbie. 27th in offensive plays per game. 27th in the league. Now, part of that is they didn't have the ball enough.

Concede that point because of their defense. But they were six. in pace of play, meaning the time in between offensive snaps. They weren't a Chip Kelly, fast-paced offense. They weren't. Did they know huddle more than anybody else? Yes. Did they go hurry up more than anybody else? No.

And then, look, this shotgun under center thing with, I mean, it's really become a bit annoying for me. It has. And the whole, you know, he's a college coach. You know, period. End of story. Robbie writes. I mean, the shotgun versus under center stuff, we've talked about this, and I've said this before. Like last year, it was just last year, not 10 years ago. Three of the final four teams, championship weekend, final four, Washington, Philadelphia, and Kansas City were among the least undercentered quarterbacked teams

in the league. This year, no doubt. The numbers are different. The teams with the best records in the NFL right now are among the league leaders in having their quarterback under center. My personal view is that I would prefer my quarterback under center more than we've had in Cliff's offense. By the way, Washington, if you don't know this, was dead last in the league in under center snaps this year. There's no doubt, and we heard Cliff talk about it last week, that he doesn't believe in being under center. We talked about his comments about him saying that being under center at a certain level, he thinks that's overrated. But Washington was this year dead last in the league in under center quarterback snaps.

The Rams led the league in under center snaps. Seattle was second, so two of the best teams in the league were one, too. By the way, just as an FYI, because I think some people believe that under center teams are under center the entire time? Not true. The Rams and Seahawks were under center, 57 and 52% of the time respectively. And they were the only two teams in the league that had a 50% or higher rate of having their quarterback under center. So even the under center teams are in shotgun more or pistol more than under center. Most of you probably knew that. But just for clear, But I personally, I just don't believe that this is the big thing that some believe it is.

My preference is, again, more under center, Shanahan offensive style system, but there are lots of ways to do it. And Cliff proved that last year, and Andy Reid's proven that for a long time, and Joe Burrow in Cincinnati, he's not under center a ton. I personally don't care how you move the ball and score points, even if, yes, I prefer a show. Shanahan-style system. But Cliff's offense works. It works in college. It works in the pros. Period. End of story, Robbie. The college offense description is definitely a pet peeve of mine. You know, it's always been that going back to 2012 when, you know, you had all these experts in the NFL calling it the wishbone and the veer and they had never seen, you know, the pistol or seen read option as just a portion of the offense. It wasn't the entire offense. It wasn't the entire

offense at all. You know, Mike and Kyle, you know, did bring a college formation into the NFL, the pistol. The Reed option was really the college element to offenses, and it became a bigger portion of the offense. But, you know, you're talking about 20% of the offense, not, you know, 100% of it. When I think of a college offense, or when I think of specifically a Kingsbury college offense, he comes from that Halmummy, Mike Leach, air raid, and spread, you know, where you pass it 70% of the time. By the way, do you guys know that Washington's pass to run ratio this year was 51.49, 51% of the time they threw it, 49% of the time they ran it.

That was the fourth lowest pass play percentage in the league. There's some surprising end of year numbers that don't back up a lot of the narrative. Let me just repeat that. Washington's pass-to-run ratio in 2025 was 51-past-49 run. That was the fourth lowest pass-play percentage in the league. They were one of the stronger run-to-pass percentage teams. Only Baltimore, Buffalo in Seattle had a lower pass-to-run ratio. So, you know, it's just the narrative of Cliff's 20-25 season is just wrong and misleading. You know, even though I do absolutely believe there's room for criticism, I didn't like the play calling in Minnesota, Green Bay. I hate some of the designed runs for Jaden.

You know that. He wasn't perfect. He wasn't perfect last year when they were elite. You're not going to get me to claim that he was perfect. the offense was great. That's not what we're talking about. But it is interesting, right, that things like, you know, a lot of the offensive numbers and the pace of play and the past to run ratio percentages don't really fit a lot of the fan or social media narrative about Cliff's offense this year. And let me just finish with this, because I looked this up before or after

reading Robbie's email. You know, the Mike Leach, Halmummy, you know, air raid offense, Like Leach, when he was at Washington State in the 20 teens, I mean, that's true air raid. He's throwing the ball 77% of the time. Nobody does that in the NFL. You don't have that kind of offense in the NFL. For starters, you really can't run that offense in the NFL. The hash marks in the college game are different, allowing for, you know, more spread-out formations, more room for receivers, more spread-out.

offensive line splits. The rules for ineligible downfield are totally different in college versus the NFL, which is why the RPO rate in college is so much higher. I mean, I could go on and on. I'm not going to. It's boring for a lot of you. I get it. But it's just a bit of a pet peeve when I hear people say Cliff runs, you know, an air raid or a college offense. It's not really a college offense. Not really. but thanks Robbie for getting me all worked up. By the way, real quickly, before we get to Clinton, two things. One, Washington busy today with interviews.

So since we last spoke yesterday, Tommy and I on the show, Washington interviewed Lundy Wells, the tight ends coach in Dallas. Now, I think that the interview of Lunda Wells is probably as much for their O-line coach opening as it is for the O.C. But he was interviewed yesterday after the show. Today, Drew Terrell, he was here in Washington in 2020 and maybe a year or two before that. But he was the past game coordinator in Arizona. he was interviewed for the OC job here today. We know that Patrick Graham was interviewed for the D.C. opening reports today

that Chief's defensive line coach Joe Cullen interviewed for the commander's defensive coordinator job. And here we go. This just breaking, as we're doing, the show. I'm reading this off of Kime's Twitter, but it looks like Washington is hiring David Blow to be their offensive coordinator. I don't know if this is a John Kime story. I'm just reading it. So I'm just seeing it for the first time. I don't know who had this first. I'm seeing that Ben had it as well. The commanders are hiring Dave's. David Blow as their new OC.

This is what we talked about on the show yesterday. I gave you the odds. Blow and Mike McDaniel. Looks like they're not going to wait for Mike McDaniel. This is going to be presented, I would think, and I think honestly so, as a hire from inside the building of a guy that they didn't want to let leave.

He's also one of the, the people that has an existing relationship with the starting quarterback. And that was kind of a nugget I heard earlier in the week, that it was going to be somebody that had an existing relationship. Well, you look at Blow. Now, would I have preferred to have seen them maybe wait a little bit on Mike McDaniel? Yeah, if you told me Mike McDaniel or David Blow, of course I'd take Mike McDaniel. But that's because we as NFL fans, fans, we don't know,

position coaches. We don't know what David Blow is going to be. They do, hopefully, and hopefully they're right. 30-year-old former NFL quarterback, just two years into his coaching career, he is an offensive coordinator. When he was hired, all of us in media, and maybe you guys read some of this too, I just remember having a conversation with someone who said, the guy Blow is the star. He is a rising star. He's incredibly smart. He's going to be an OC and a head coach one day. They let all those Shanahan guys leave the building. When I say they, not they, who are out there right now. This group's not going to let David Blow leave the building. David Blow is the new offensive coordinator. The news just broke as I was finishing up this opening segment of today's show.

Again, if Mike McDaniel weren't out there, like if Mike McDaniel ends up being the offensive coordinator in Baltimore or in Detroit and he doesn't get a head coaching job, that's going to be a tough pill to swallow if all they had to do was wait. But the problem is that Blow was being pursued by Detroit and maybe even other teams. So there you go. All right.

David Blow is the offensive coordinator. That happened a little bit faster than I thought, for sure, especially with Mike McDaniel's availability. But there you go. By the way, my Super Bowl pick, Rams Buffalo, the Rams win the Super Bowl. Rams over Buffalo in the Super Bowl. I think Houston's got a shot.

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Clinton just finished up his first year coaching college football. He was part of Deshawn Jackson staff at Delaware State, The Hornets went eight and four. We talked to Clinton early in this season. Delaware State with Clinton as the team's running backs coach finished with the number one rush offense in college football at the FBS level. We will talk to him about the experience that he had this year and what's next. But that's not where I want to start. One of the reasons I'm reaching out to you, and really the main reason I'm reaching out to you,

today is because of what happened last night. Miami beating Ole Miss in the semi-final game. And I thought about you and I thought about Santana. You know, I've talked about this before as it relates to you guys and your love for Miami. Miami has this incredible history, but it's been a while, but the players, the fans, there is just an incredible fraternity of the you, guys, and we've had several of them here in Washington, and I knew how thrilled you were last night. And my guess is, and I've known you for a while now, that this matters much more to you than the Redskins winning. I've had conversations with you about this, that for you, you know, this is the big deal. Miami being great in football is a much bigger deal for guys like you and

Montana, then the skins being good, right? Always have been. You know, I think that's just where it started. That's one of those things that never finishes. You know, the red skin is your career game, you know, on the red skins is over, although, you know, I think just for the DMV and that fan base, I did enough that I should be appreciated for a long time. But, you know, like, you have a change of guard, everything.

You can have a change of guard at you. It don't matter. It don't matter who's there. You know, with Coach Cristobal and having so many ties and being a former player and everything he's doing, it's just like we're back. You know, like we're back at the university. We're back in action.

We're winning, you know, it's not like my team winning. Like, we win, you know, I feel just like I'm one of them. Yeah, I mean, I've always sensed that about that fan base. and it was cool. I was rooting for Miami last night. So what was it like last night? Watching that game, winning a semi-final game, and now you're in the championship game. Describe your emotions.

It was great, man. You know, for me, it's even better because my son is on the team. I know. You know, like, just for, I made a post that, it took me three years to get to the national championship. It took him three weeks. You know, he should still be in high school. But instead, he's going to his first national championship,

and I hope there's any more to come. But just the belief, just to see everybody to support, like we went out to Dallas, you know, going to Texas A&M and following the team, Arizona, like everyone is showing up, our Keynes group chat. Everybody is involved in exciting and hype, you know. So just to have all of that support and then, when you look at the icon, you know, you look at Michael Irvin and what he's, doing for the fan base.

You know, it's just one of those. You always imagine, like, man, what it's going to be like. You see when the farmers come back, you know, the appreciation. And now just being in that position, it's like, it's crazy. So tell me real quickly how Cam's doing. I remember you telling me when we had this conversation about him being recruited by basically everybody, that you weren't going to tell him where to go, you weren't going to, you know, point him in the direction of Miami. In fact, I remember you telling me that the Ohio State

recruiting trip was unbelievably impressive in how it was going to be tough for him to turn that down. Hey, you know what? I thought it was. I told you the truth that I wasn't, you know, when I spoke with Coach Christobald in, it was the same thing. I'm like, Coach, like you got to recruit him. You don't have to recruit me. I already went there. I already played there. So don't cheat.

Don't cheat the process. Don't cheat him out of having this. I don't want it to be about me. And they did. And, you know, Coach Heavenman, the night he got announced was here in Charlotte at the school. It was like, he was like, no, I haven't even went to Miami. This is my first stop. Like, I wanted to come to meet Kim.

And I'm just like, man, this man, just like this news just came about. and he's already here, you know. So it was one of those serious things, and I think for Cam to get this experience to get this opportunity. It was the same thing happened for Malick. I told me last year, you know, the guy in the school early,

he was able to be around, and now you see how he's blossomed. And I just kind of told Cam and Maddo, I said, Cam, well, I told Malik, I said, Malle, whatever you do, that's what Cam do, unless you go home, or, you know, you're doing some personal stuff, But if you're going to work out, if you're going to the jug, if you're going to do push-ups,

whatever you do that's football-related mindset, you take him. And, you know, I think the picture that I posted last night just show the reflection, like the enjoyment, the bond that they have. Like, it looked like the old you, you know, when you see guys flying around, when you see guys celebrating each other, you don't see any selfishness. you don't see guys putting their head down. Everyone is lifting each other up. Everyone believes in the next guy. So, like, to me, it's crazy.

So let's talk about the game for just a minute, because it was a classic last night. And I was rooting for your squad. I just have been a bit of a Carson Beck fan. I've been rooting for him ever since the injury at Georgia and the Georgia fans and the Georgia coaching staff, not wanting them back. and a lot of college football fans doubting him this year,

especially when he threw all those picks against Louisville and they lost that game. But I was really rooting for him, and I just sensed that when they got the ball back with three minutes to go, a lot of college football fans doubted that he'd be able to deliver. So give me your thoughts on Carson Beck overall, and what did you think with three minutes to go? Did you think that he'd get it done? Man, I'm a McCain, so I always believe. I knew we were coming back to make it happen. But it kind of just reflects and make me go back.

You know, I think we were down at the University of Miami when it got announced that there was Carson Beck, and I had all the reservations in the world. I'm like Carson Beck. Like, why would we go take Carson Beck? And Coach, like Coach, coach was so excited about him, and he was just like, nah, CP, like, I'm telling you, he's going to be good for us. And, you know, I saw the same thing that you saw in the Louisville game, and it was just him not taking what was there.

So that's fixable because, you know, like, I see this wide open, man, I see this checkdown. I see this flat route wide open, and you're not taking it because you're determined to force, and I think he improved from that moment. And now that you see the running game, you see Mark Fletcher, you see that old line, just dominate whenever they want to. You see Mallory, you see CJ Daniels back healthy.

Last night, Marion, like, play out of his mind. You don't know where the ball is going. It's eight, nine people touching the ball. You don't know where the ball is going. Although they line up and come down hill when they want to, when it comes to pass routes, the tight ends get it, the receivers get it. You just don't know.

So it's hard, and I think for Beck, just to be able to go out and handle that and quiet the noise. You know, look at his teammates. Like you said, hey, man, it's three minutes for the rest of our lives. What are we going to do? And for him to go out and prove, like he was the man for the job, all that they said, everything that happened, you're here,

playing in the national championship in your home stadium. You couldn't have drawn it up any better. You know, I thought the Ohio State game, the stats didn't say that he had a great game, but he delivered over and over again on third down in that game. and I think started to use his legs in that game like he did last night. The one thing, and I'm just curious because I know how you think sometimes, did you get frustrated in the Texas A&M game and then even last night a little bit

with Shannon Dawson, the offensive coordinator? It's like just hand the ball off to Fletcher and Brown, what are we trying a flea flicker for? Did you feel that way? And I thought in the A&M game, they should have stayed away from trying to be tricky and just run the football. Yeah, I did. I did feel that way. You know, I think we get away from what's working.

Like, we're averaging six, seven yards, a carry. It's kind of like we get bored with. Like, you know what? Right now, I'm bored with how this is going. Let me figure out some excitement. But at the end of the day, Coach Dawson found a way to win the game. When it was needed, he found the plays to activate. You know, I'm thinking even.

even when we got the ball back. They haven't stopped us from running. Right. They're tired. Let's come downhill. We don't have to throw it. It's first in ten. Let's just, hey, let's punish them because we got two timeouts.

But we threw the ball downfield. All of a sudden you get down. And like you said, the most underrated part of the game is Carson's big legs, you know. But I just think with the trickeration and all of that, it's like, oh, it comes at the worst. time, you know, it comes at the worst time. But at the end of the day, we're still victorious. I just think as playing team ball, offense, defense, special teams, like the special teams, you don't even, you don't need to get to talk about the special teams outside of a midfield though, because everything is, it's so well executed, you know, defensively.

That deline can wreak havoc whenever they want to, it seems like, when they, they, when a player is needed, it happens. You know, when you look at that secondary, those guys are coming down, click-clacking, you know, and it's just an excitement because you don't know where the big players coming from last night. You know, like this game was so much closer than on TV or in numbers than it really was. I know. We dropped four picks, you know. Drop four-pick.

Four interceptions dropped. And they never stopped this or run the ball, so we could have executed and ran it. and ran the ball. Then we were getting killed. Pellonies, just bad mistakes. Both of our starting corners went down. It was so much happening in that game for that team to stay together. And it just kind of remind me of 2001.

When we needed a play, you don't know who's going to make the play. You don't know who's coming in. Whoever come in is like, I've been waiting for my opportunity. I've been waiting for my moment, and they take advantage of it. It's so funny because I described it the same way that Dawson must just get bored every once in a while and want to try something. And then also as it relates to that final drive, I was texting back and forth with a friend of mine and I'm like, they can still run the football here. They've got timeouts and they only need three to tie, but they can still run the football. But they didn't run the football.

They threw it until obviously Beck. scrambled for the touchdown wins. So who do you like tonight, Oregon and Indiana? And, you know, after that, which team do you think Miami matches up best with? Tonight, I would honestly say just the way that Indiana has been playing, it's tough to go against Indiana. Man, that coach, Smetting is doing such a great job. His team doesn't hurt themselves.

They don't make mistakes. Everyone is even killed, like following his demeanor. So it's hard to go against. You know, when you look at Oregon and the talent, they have their quarterback making plays. I'm excited because you know it's hard to beat in team two times, you know. So you kind of got to stick with the game playing that you want with, and they get to switch it up because the last thing didn't work. and I just think Indiana pulled this game off,

although I think it would be like classic for Coach Crystal Ball to get to play Oregon. For Oregon in Miami to play in the championship and Coach Crystal Ball coming to us from Oregon or leaving us to go to Oregon and coming back. Like, I think that would be like the Cinderella story, an epic story of college football. But it's hard to overlook Coach McNettian

and what they're doing in Indiana, because that team flies around. They don't hurt themselves. You don't know who's going to make the play. Everyone is alive and active. So it's exciting to watch them. I'll be glued into the season. All right.

Before I ask you a little bit about our football team here and maybe even the NFL playoffs, just tell me what it was like to be in coaching the first year on a team that played well and a team that led your division in rushing offense as the running backs coach. It was exciting, man. You know, I think early on we knew we had something special, you know. D. Jack got an opportunity and kind of put an amazing staff together.

And just as players, man, like just going through the process of breaking down the kids and giving them to believe in themselves, like, that was a hurdle. You know, you're taking kids who've been one and 11, two years in a row and told them that they're winners and you've got to give them the beliefs and early on in the season, you know, it was tough because everybody still wanted to do it their way, and then you get to that

moment or that conversation of, listen, you tried it your weight, you were one in 11. Try my weight to see what happened. Right. And then all of a sudden, you start getting that enjoyment, like, oh, yeah, these coaches know what they're talking about, and

we get to 8 and 4 and lead the nation in Russian, number one in Russian multiple backs that were I had two backs that were all Americans

that was all me that was all world and you know just having that conversation with them before the season and throughout the season

like bro if you wouldn't be longer than the years like either you trash or I'm trash like I'm trying to get you out of here

I'm trying to get you to the next level you know and all of a sudden you know my back just signed with one sign with Arizona State Marquis Gilles'

signed with Arizona State that was a perfect fit because this was Cam Scada Boo just came out of there and you know they're so similar and then James Jones signed with New Mexico State but had Kentucky, Florida

and Cincinnati, you know he had office from everywhere and just chose New Mexico State so to me it was kind of just a testament and an appreciation of them believing and getting the work done and giving the opportunity for me

to coach them and believing in me and, you know, it was a dope journey because you see, you get a chance to change kids' lives. You get a chance to open kids' eyes and I think the best part of it all was like me falling back in love

with football, you know, in broadcasting we had a good time, like to fall back in love with football, to fall back in love with the grind. Like, you you're there early and you lead, and you know, it's like, man, I don't want to do this, but I'm 44, you know,

like, where I got so much other stuff to be doing, but at the same time it was so enjoyable having those guys in the room and for my room to lead us and lead the team kind of go from, you know, not even having a vote when it came to captains to being the voice in the face of the team.

Like, I don't really think we could have a dream, it up any better. You doing it again next year? I'm doing it again next year somewhere. No, I'm actually, I'm definitely going to do it again next year, but I'm going to say I'm going to see them. So I got an opportunity to go down and help Coach Quinn gray out. And, you know, it was kind of like Dover of Fam, Dover of Fam, Dover of Fam, and I

slept on and I prayed about it. And, you know, it just kind of turned out everything and kind of lined up for Sam, you know, my son. This is Florida A&M. This is Florida A&M. And you're going to go to Florida A&M to be what? I'm going to go to Florida A&M and assume the same road as I had at Delaware State. The running backs coach. And where is Florida A&M?

What part of Florida? Oh, it is. So I'll be wearing orange and green. in the enemy territory, so they know I'm coming. Oh, well, congratulations on that. What did you learn in your first year of coaching that maybe you didn't think about before it started? I think what stood out the most was,

if you're honest with a kid, if you show a kid that you believe in them, you show a kid that you care, you show a kid that you love them. they'll run through a brick wall. It kind of made me think about Coach Gibbs, you know, and make you think about Coach Shanahan and Coach Kubiak. Like, you don't think of what they do or what they point to you until you get an opportunity to do it. And now that I'm doing it, it's just like, wow, this is crazy.

You know, like, this is crazy. Well, good for you, and congratulations on the new gig. Next year, for me, it'll be Florida A&M, not Delaware State. where I'll look up on a Monday morning what you guys did and look at the rushing yardage totals. I'll do that with Florida A&M next year. All right, let's get to our team here and maybe get a Super Bowl pick from you. We'll do that right after these words from a few of our sponsors. Hey, guys, I'm always happy when Harry's is on the list of sponsors for this show.

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This year, Clinton, much different. How closely have you followed it, and what did you make of the 2025 Washington season? Yeah, like, you know, we were injured from start to finish, and I think I said it before the season either started. Like, we kind of made ourselves of distractions with the whole tear situation. And throughout the all season, like, that was questionable. Like, why would we, like, we just won. Like, this man has stayed, like, this is loyalty at his finest. Like, why are we putting them in a situation that, you know, is going to lead the injuries?

I think I said this to you before the season we started. Like, because when you sit out and then you come in and you're trying to catch up, It's always an injury, but it goes, you know, week one, week two. We lose the running back. You got Terry, he goes down. You got Jayden, he goes down. Like, it was just everywhere. And you never really caught a rhythm with the same guys.

And when that happens, it's like last year at this time, you're talking about going to the NFC championship games. and who would have believed a year later, the coordinators are fired, you know, or agreed to leave, you know? So a lot of change happens when you don't win. And I just think when you got an opportunity or you've got a group of guys that's best believing and going well, it shows you've got to get over the hump because it's going to change quick. What was your reaction to them moving on from Kingsbury? shocking because, again,

you were just in the NFC championship game, uh, in the excitement, you know, just seeing the, uh, headlines of,

of late, like, oh, man, it was, it was tampering and things are going on within the front office. You're just like,

not a game, you know, like, uh, you don't, you don't want the negativity to come out, just keeping in-house, handle business,

uh, because that fan base has, uh, really, uh, kind of, reignited the city, you know, coming together. So get it out the way, man, you know, you have it,

win the seasons, you have losing season. So put the season behind, hopefully, we're back on track in no time. You don't want to get it to where it's constant, you know. Before we get to your Super Bowl pick, I love talking running backs with you. And in watching this season, I'm guessing that you're a big fan of Bijon Robinson. I mean, is there anybody better than him in the league right now?

Yeah, like, Bejohn is a talent in the back. Well, who's your favorite? I should have asked it that way. Of the backs, and there's so many good backs now in the league. I mean, the running back position has kind of come back here over the last few years. Give me your favorite back in the league. My favorite back in the league. So I honestly would say I love watching Cook.

up in Buffalo. Okay. That duo of him and Josh Allen is special. I love a kid in Detroit. Gibbs. Gibbs. I love Jemir Gibbs. Bejohn, you know, I just think Bejohn was in an offense

that displayed his talent. Like, but just as an athlete, I think he's going to be, he's going to be special. I just don't think he's been in that explosive offense that highlights him. you know um um who else i like what the kids up in in new england are doing um travion henderson yeah i like what what henderson is doing i'm always excited about young banks i told you that and then just to see uh henry continue uh what he's in doing that's crazy you know just just wait who did you say man child henry derry henry oh derrick henry yeah yeah he's the

Adrian Peterson is an hour era where you're just just running crazy all the time you're big in everybody you're stronger than everybody you know like

so so to see that sustainability uh... Barkley and you know McCaffrey is special just running in every season and then Barkley

I think he had an off year this year but we know his talent we just seen the last year I think it was just burnout from last season so he's didn't have that same excitement, that same thing going on. But there's a lot of good talent back that excite me.

You know, you go down to Miami. That kid is good. A-C-Man is good. You look around the league, like, it's some exciting players. This is some guys that's running the ball. They're sharing the backfield. And it's like, boy, if he got a full load, like, he would be special. You think, by the way, if you had been,

in a different offense with different quarterbacks that you could have been a more prolific pass catcher out of the backfield? Because you had good hands, you were great in space. And I know that you had a couple of seasons. I'm thinking about them right now where you caught a lot of balls, but not McCaffrey, not Bijon, you know, out of the back field, you know, in terms of yards from scrimmage. Was that a result of either offense, quarterback, or am I wrong, that wouldn't have been something you would have been great at? Well, I think, you know, I would tell you I would be great at anything football-related, but we didn't have, we didn't have the spread.

We didn't have, like, you're talking about lining up against a linebacker that's 225, 2.30 now. You know what kind of steps I would have had the luxury of looking across from you and the linebackers 2.30 instead of 266, 6.3, and, you know, running full speed. Like, you're looking across at these linebackers instead of the Joy Porter's and Chad Browns and Marvin Jones and Marvin Lewis. Like, man, what the hell? You know, like, when I look at it, and even as a college coach, every time we're in our run, mean, our goal line, I mean, it's like, oh, man, let's do this. Let's go, bro, that kid is two twins.

Why are we doing that? Like, let's put a fullback right here and run power, you know? So a lot of stuff that was going on in my era is gone. Like, you don't see teams run power, which LaDainanthamson was probably became Hall of Fame. You know, you don't really see a lot of. The zone reads, you know, like there's a few teams at Shanahan lineage of coaches that do it, but you don't really see it anymore. So just talking football or watching football is like everyone running duo. Like, duo is the number one place.

And you're like, what happened to draw, what happened to power, what happened to dive? Like, what happened to putting the full back up? Give me big Mike Sellers and let's get downhill. You don't have that anymore. All right. Who's going to win the Super Bowl? Man, you know, that's going to be just as exciting as college football is. Because when you look around like the teams that you would say are number one, they could be beat.

You know, like it's a, when you look at Denver, that defense is spectacular, but it's a lot of questions about the offense, you know. But you got Houston that, I don't know what. Houston guy. I just know Houston tough and playing good football, you know. You look at New England, you look at Seattle, like you would think the Rams or

San Frang just contingent upon the injuries. You know, I think the Rams are a different team when they have all the receivers. San Francisco is different when they got Trent Williams and Kittle on the field. You know, like,

so it's kind of one of those who injuries gone who injury is going to hurt the most. If everyone is at full strength, it's hard to go against the round, you know, if you ask me. But just looking, I'm excited about it. I think it would be maybe Seattle, Seattle, and I'm going to say New England. It's hard not to say New England. Yeah, I mean, you're right, though.

I mean, I think that's where you were headed, it's wide open, just like the college. football playoff where we ended up. It's as wide open as I can remember. And I think almost any matchup, if it happens, isn't going to be that shocking unless it's Carolina. I don't see Carolina, you know, making a big run. But other than that, I think almost anybody could win a couple of games. Thanks for doing this. Glad you had a great season. Florida A&M next year as the running backs coach. Where do you see this headed for you? Is Are you now into this so that you can do this for the, you know, the foreseeable future? Do you want to continue to move up and be eventually an OC and then a head coach?

Is that the plan? That's the plan. I mean, like I said, I fell back in love with football, you know, like the excitement, the game planning, the means like to run a mean. Like, the goal is to be a head coach. You know, I don't even know if I want to be a coordinator anymore. I used to think I want to be an offensive coordinator. Like, I want to be a head coach, you know,

and I'm not going to shy away from that because I saw the impact. You know, I saw what we did at Delaware State. I saw I watch Jack closely, you know. I saw the work that Coach Nemo put in. Like, I'm ready for it. Like, it's a different challenge, especially with the kids, you know, it's like the kids going to college and being out. Like it's like your opportunity to stay involved.

Like it's a rig. Like you've been reignited to go out and enjoy your calling. Like as long as it's fun, as long as it's good, as long as you're enjoying it. Like, this is something I want to do. It sounds great. I'm so happy that it's going well for you. I wish you the best as always and we'll stay in touch. And hopefully next year, Florida A&M is among the league.

The division leaders in rushing offense and the next move is a big one. Appreciate it, man. We're on the way. I appreciate you. Clinton Portis, everybody. We'll finish up the show next with the smell test after these words from a few of our sponsors. This episode is brought you by prize picks. Whether you're starting a new routine or making player picks for the first time,

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By Heideke. Five years ago tonight, January 9th, 2021, in the midst of a pandemic, the Washington football team hosted as a 7-9 division-winning team, a playoff game against Tom Brady and the 10. Tampa Bay Buccaneers at FedEx Field. And the legend of Taylor Heineke was thrust upon all of us. Yes, that was five years ago tonight. That touchdown run by Taylor Heineke made it 18 to 16 late in the third quarter.

It was strange watching it because there was no crowd noise. It was really odd to go back and watch the highlights of this game and find this specific play with no fans and Mike Toriko's voice, you know, raising to an excitement level, but with no crowd noise to sort of support that. A sign of the times, obviously, in 2020 and 2021. Washington went for two and missed it, and then Tampa Bay pretty much outplayed Washington in the fourth quarter, winning 31 to 23. Of course, the Buccaneers went on to win the Super Bowl that year.

I think the legend of that night has been somewhat exaggerated over time. I know many people have said, remember, the Taylor Heineke game, nobody played Tampa Bay, tougher than Washington did that night. Washington that night gave up defensively 507 yards, and Chris Godwin, who caught five passes on 12 targets, dropped four passes himself, or they would have had close to 600 yards of offense. And remember, Tampa Bay in the next game against New Orleans, they won that game by a larger margin, but that game was tied up 20-20 late in the game.

And then, of course, their NFC title game at Lambo against Green Bay was a game that came down to the last two minutes. with Tampa Bay winning 31 to 26. But that night was a hell of a night for Taylor Heineke. It was his night, the finest moment for him of his very short-lived NFL career. He threw for 306 yards in the game. 26 of 44, a touchdown and interception. He was only sacked twice. He had six carries for 46 yards, including that late third quarter,

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and here early in 2026. I gave you the two picks for tonight's semifinal game in the open, Oregon plus three and a half, and the under in the Oregon-Indiana game, under 48.5. Let's go to Wild Card weekend, and we'll start tomorrow night in Chicago Soldier Field. Supposed to be windy, cold, maybe some snow showers. The Packers are laying a point.

There is a public. play right now on the Bears. They view the point spread to be incorrect. I mean, they just beat Green Bay a few weeks ago, 22 to 16. They're at home and the Packers are favored. They're sharp money on Green Bay. You should be able to find some ones. As of now, I see some one-and-a-halfs and ones. I'm going to give it to you at minus one Green Bay tomorrow night. Let's go to Sunday night. Nothing for the early game Sunday or the late afternoon game in Philadelphia. Sunday night, the Patriots are a big public play.

I'll take the Chargers plus the three and a half. I am seeing some information here that Omari and Hampton may not play. He's listed as questionable in the game. I think he's big for the Chargers. It's not going to change my play here. And it's not really going to move the line. at all. But look, the Patriots have been rolling everybody. They're at home. The Chargers have a banged-up and really just flat-out terrible offensive line. But they're very good defensively,

as I mentioned, in the open to the show. And this is going to come down to mistakes, and it's going to come down to red zone efficiency. The team that scores touchdowns in the red zone and doesn't turn the ball over is going to win. This is a tough matchup for the Patriots. because the Chargers defensively are very good, but I think the Patriots are really good, too. But I'll take the Chargers plus the three and a half as an anti-public play there. And then I'll give you Monday night's pick. I kind of pre-sold this earlier in the week. I knew the public would be on Houston, laying three.

They are. That line's come down from three and a half and even four. There's some sharp money on the Steelers. This is a hedge for me, man, because I bet the Texans, you know, two months ago to win the AFC at 30 to 1. So I'd love them to win the game by a point or two, but the play is the Steelers plus the three. And to be honest with you, I mean, I'd love to win the Texans bet. It was, let's just say, a healthy-sized wager, and at 30 to 1, it would pay off very nicely. But on the same, you know, kind of level, man, I bet the same. I bet the

Steelers to win the AFC North. I got that one at the beginning of the year. I bet them on they're over on the season total. And I'm an Aaron Rogers fan right now, man. That dude is playing at a high level. This should be a great game Monday night. So I'm going to hedge it pretty hard with the Steelers plus three in the event that they win the game that I'm able to not only recover my Texans AFC championship wager, but end up winning some. money net net so there you go Oregon plus three and a half tonight Oregon Indiana under 48 and a half tonight Packers minus one tomorrow night the Chargers plus three and a half Sunday night and the Steelers plus three Monday night at home to conclude wild card weekend against

the Texans all right that's it for the day back on Monday