The Kevin Sheehan Show - Blough: Picket Fence Over Jimmy Chitwood

Episode Date: September 15, 2026

Kevin and Thom today with a lot more on Washington's 24-22 loss Sunday in Philadelphia. Thom compared Commanders' OC David Blough's 2-pt conversion play-call to the scene in the movie Hoosiers when coach Norman Dale first suggests running the picket fence play instead of giving Jimmy Chitwood the final shot. The boys talked Terry McLaurin and why he only got targeted four times against the Eagles. Also, their reaction to the Chiefs win over the Broncos on Monday Night Football and Virginia Tech head coach James Franklin's weird exchange with a reporter yesterday as the Hokies get ready to play Maryland on Saturday night. Exclusive High Roller bonus designed for bettors who want more firepower for this season. Double your money all the way up to $5000. Minimum deposit $1500. Use my promo code “DCVIP” at https://www.mybookie.ag/signup/?affid=3910. Download the app today and use code SHEEHAN to get $150 instantly in Lineups if you win your first $5 Lineup! “PrizePicks. Run Your Game.” Join Thrive Market today during their 25% off Healthy Reset Sale now through September 19th! PLUSget $30 off your first 2 orders when you use my link ThriveMarket.com/sheehan. Join the millions who are already banking fee free with America’s #1 Choice forBanking. Head to Chime.com/sheehan. If you want to try Momentous Signature Spec Creatine, head to livemomentous.com and use codeSHEEHAN for up to 35% off your entire first order. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Window Nation, 86690 Nation or Window Nation. com if you need new windows. Tommy, I got this from Darius. Darius writes, why don't you shoot down the people who think Blow sucks after one game? I thought one game didn't matter, smart guy. Thank you for that, Darius. One game doesn't matter.

Certainly not the first game. And shooting down the people who think Blow sucks, it's funny, over the last 24 hours, I've kind of gone through this a little bit with callers on the radio show, with my producer, Max, and I can go through it with you as well. I have gotten some things from people that say, There's a real negative, angsty feeling about the team after one game. And I personally haven't sensed that.

Now, this guy is saying it too. I had an emailer yesterday that basically said the same thing that, you know, why would people get so worked up? They played well defensively. They, Jaden lit it up in the fourth quarter against a great defense and yada, yada. and it's like people must be hearing from other people. Most of the people, the majority of the people that I've interacted with since Sunday night, were much more encouraged than discouraged.

What were you and then what have you heard? Well, I don't know how you could be anything but encouraged even after a loss. like what we saw from the commanders on Sunday. They looked like they belonged on the field with the Eagles. And there was a great fear that they weren't going to look that way. Well, you had that fear. Well, I wasn't the only one. No.

You weren't the only one. A lot of people had doom and gloom over the summer football stuff. Yes, and I think that they showed you, particularly defensively, there had to be so much to like on defense with the front seven at least, with the speed, with the tackling, with the pressures that they put on the Philadelphia backfield. I mean, you know, there was just, you had to be pinching yourself

to watch that Washington defense. I haven't seen that in years. And offensively, it was frustrating, but you have to remember you're playing a Vic Fangio defense. One of the top, maybe the top ranked defense in the league last year. Certainly one of the better defenses your team is going to face this year. Of course yards are going to be hard to come by.

You know, what did you expect? Again, with a quarterback with a new rookie offensive coordinator who saw virtually no preseason game action. I mean, I thought that they acquitted themselves well in spite of all that. And then, like you said, came on in the fourth quarter to have a very impressive game quarter from Jaden Daniels, 9 of 11 for 100 yards and two touchdowns.

Except for the loss, I don't see how, oh, not except for the loss, the loss, I mean, you know, there's, I just don't know how you could not feel better about this team this week than you did the week before, okay, if you're a reasonable person. Now, let me say that. The two-point play call overshadows a lot. Yeah, you wrote about it. It's in people's guts. It's the last thing they remember.

It doesn't matter if it was one minute. part of the game, that has left the bad taste. And it seems to have overshadowed a lot of other things to be positive about. Well, David Blow called the picket fence play and didn't give the ball to Jimmy Chitwood. Tommy wrote that in his column today. And you and I are in agreement on that. Now, let me just on your takeaway, I don't think you're trying to do this. I don't think you are, but I thought for a moment that you were trying to set me up.

Like you were trying to get me to say, oh my God, I'm so encouraged. There are so many, I mean, how about that game? And I said to you last week, and I've said throughout the summer, I am not going to overreact one way or the other after one game. it's always a head fake and it takes a few games of the regular season to kind of figure out what your team actually is. But I don't think you are doing that for that purpose. I will say this that while I absolutely don't feel that much differently about this team, there's still, to me, a major question mark in a lot of different areas that was never going to get answered over the summer

and can only get answered in real games. But I'm still where I was before the game, but I'll just give you one small exception. You know, where I was before the opener was, look, there are only two things about this team that I feel somewhat, you know, sure about. Like a higher level of confidence than anything else. And that is, if Jaden Daniels is healthy in plays this year,

the team's going to have a good chance. to win more games than it loses. And then number two, you know, this wasn't tongue in cheek. And it was the same thing I said last year, but I felt even more strongly about it this year is that the defense cannot be anywhere near as bad as it was last year. And so the one thing that I would just say that, again, I'm not going to get carried away because, remember, they were playing a team that had a new offensive coordinator, a new offensive scheme playing without their second or third best player offensively that's been on

that team for several years in AJ Brown. So they were trying to figure it out. And those guys didn't play in preseason either. But I did feel like, I did feel like that my belief that the defense can't be as bad as it was last year got, you know, some support from the way it plays. played on Sunday. Like the players are faster. They are being coached in a much more aggressive way.

And we'll see what happens Sunday because they're going to play an offense that is veteran, is used to the system that they've been playing, does have overall better offensive players in Dallas. So it may be a much bigger challenge and we may feel differently a week from today. But I did, it was exciting to watch them defensively Sunday. Like it was so much more watchable. And part of it is I am comparing it to our team in recent years. And literally you and I could have gone out there and probably played better than the team did last year on defense.

But that's the one thing that I would allow myself after one game to feel like, okay, that looked. different and it feels like it could continue to look different as the season goes on. But who knows? Because last year they looked good on defense in the opener, too, against the Giants. And it turned out to be a disaster. Well, they were healthy in the opener. Well, but they were healthy in week two and got, you know, run out of the building by Green Bay. Michael Pennix and Gino Smith had their best games of the year in weeks three and four against the defense. So, yeah, but I, that part, like, I can't wait to see the defense Sunday again against Dallas. God, I hope I'm not let down by, yeah, week one just, you know, is a major, major head fake.

Or just by the fact that Dallas is really good on offense, really good, really experienced. This isn't a new system for them. And so it's going to be a different test for the defense on Sunday than this. past Sunday was, although I will say, I thought Jalen Hertz was absolutely spectacular in the game. I thought Dallas Goddard was really, really good in the game. Landon Dickerson, by the way, is on injured reserve. I saw that right after the radio show today. He's putting himself on injured reserve, and he did struggle in the game. So they weren't necessarily healthy up front. Philadelphia wasn't. So, but yeah, I mean,

hey, it was a loss, though. I mean, let's not forget. They're not in this for moral victories. I know. And I know for the people that were expecting Jaden to be sacked 10 times and for them to be an absolute disaster on defense with the corners. By the way, Mikey Santer still was a disaster on Sunday. The game he played on Sunday, hopefully it'll improve.

But so there's some people that said, all right, it's better than it was. But that's what I heard mostly. I heard mostly, hey man, this looked, this didn't look terrible. Maybe the doom and gloom of the summer really created the environment for people to feel better about it.

But it's interesting that I've heard from a lot of emailers and even from my producer this morning that there are a lot of people that were kind of negative about the game. You're still, you're missing the point that I made. that negativity is probably driven in large part by the way the game, by the last play that Washington had. I think that dwarfs almost everything else.

It shouldn't, but it does. I think that David Plow two-point conversion call, the shovel paths, overshadows all the positives that you could come out of from that game for a lot of people. It was not, you didn't like the call, I didn't like the call. I'm not sure Quinn necessarily loved the call. Who knows? I mean, I went through this a lot. Share with everybody, you know, kind of the gist of your column.

Because it was about that two-point conversion. Yeah, I mean, basically, I, you know, I took to heart what Tom Brady said after the game. In a situation like that, think players, not players. Right. You know, he would have preferred to see Jaden in a run-pass option with the ball in his hand with a chance to make the most out of his weapons available to. If you're going to go down, go down with your best. Basically a shovel pass that they did took the ball out of his hands.

And that's what I compared it to Norman Dale in Hoosiers when they've got to. the game tied with seconds left, and he, in the huddle, he calls the picket fence play for Merle, take the shot, and Jimmy to be a decoy. And Jimmy looks at him and says, I'll make it. You know, that's, in a way, that's what it was. Well, the whole huddle, first of all, is looking around and looking at the coach and then looking at Jimmy, and then Jimmy sees it and just said, I'll make it. and then Norman Dale gets it together,

aka Gene Hackman in real life, gets it together and says, all right, get the ball to Jimmy, go win the game. Yes, and I think in that case, it's not hard to figure out what you want to do, especially with the role that Jayton Daniels was on, especially how well he played in that quarter.

I mean, he had to be feeling it, you know. He had to be feeling confident and, you know, feeling really good about it. So, that's all. And it's not just that. It's, I know it was one of the options. The other option was to pass to the back out of the backfield. But the fact that that option was presented was so frustrated because it also relied

on one of the weaker lengths of this offense, and that's the center. They were relying on Nick Allegretti to make a play. A guy who missed time and training camp, who was a little shaky on Sunday, and is far from your best offensive lineman. And you needed him to make a play. And, you know, he wasn't up to the task. Of all the things to put the game on the line for, you put the game on the line on Nick Allegretti's shoulders.

To me, that's not, unaware of your situation. Yeah. I don't disagree. I mean, I think, you know, the play calling, you know, questioning sometimes is, you know, is nuts. The way they, when they hear it, they roll their eyes and they're like, you have no idea what you're talking about. But I agreed with Brady, and I agree with what you said. Now, you know, you typically will go into a game with like two to three two-point plays that you've practiced all week. I still don't have an answer as to whether or not Chigacanquo was actually the guy that was supposed to be the recipient of the shovel pass.

It wouldn't have mattered because Jomo made an absolute. spectacular play defensively. And Quinn said that. Quinn said that. And I was glad to hear that because when I watch this play over and over again, it's like you got to give this guy some credit. Like that is a detackle spinning into a play that he read. It's an incredibly athletic play.

But to your point, it's not just the fact that it's your, I mean, look, Cosme leading the way is actually a strength on your. team. Yeah. You know, but the Allegretti piece, but it's also going into the heart and the teeth of, you know, that defense. And, but at the same time, you know, they were rolling and they had Philadelphia reeling, you know, over those final two drives.

I don't know. I would have preferred Jaden and Antonio Williams and Stefan Diggs and Terry McClorn to be the primary options on the play. however you would have drawn up the plates. It's interesting about two-point plays, man, especially against really, really good defensive teams. Over the years, like, it depends, if you don't have, if you feel you're in a mismatch

on a really condensed field, one play from, you know, from that two-yard line, you see a lot of trick plays in that situation. I mean, the Philly Special from the Super Bowl, you know, back in the day. You know, you see teams try to do things that are actually out of character. Shovel pitches are, you know, are not out of character or unusual plays in the red zone ever. I just wouldn't have had John Bates as a big part of the final play. And to your point,

Nick Allegretti, but even more so into the teeth of that defense. Because Jomo's the third best of that group up front. And he's still exceptionally good. Like he's... I know that, but I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, And on what whiteboard at headquarters, does anyone think Nick Allegretti wins that battle? Well, they were very high on Nick Allegretti. They still are. I mean, Nick Allegretti, we've nuts. Again, I don't want to go back and rehash the summer. How would you know what Nick Allegretti is as a center?

He's never played center. He played one game last year in his entire career at the end of the season. They're confident in Nick Allegretti. That's why they went with Nick Gallagretti instead of Tyler Biotish. And so to say that, why would they ever in any world? Well, because they think Nick Allegretti is capable. I don't have enough information to say he isn't. I didn't think he played particularly well in his first game as a starting center,

but he was up against Philadelphia. That's as good a- That's my point. Yeah. You know? Well, why would you? think that this is the time he's going to win that battle? Well, it's more.

They went right into the teeth. Yeah, it's more about that. It's more about the teeth of that defense. And by the way, Jordan Davis wasn't even on the field. It was Carter and a Jomo. And then they had five DBs on the field. They were actually a nickel. But, yeah, look, I mean, this is what I love about the regular season when it

begins and you're part of the discussion of a team that everybody's focused on. You could do an hour on just one play, you know? Yeah. This is what's great about once the games begin is because, and by the way, I don't think that was the only play. I was very, very upset about the third and 17 touchdown in the first half, where the defense had seven people at the line of scrimmage pre-year. snap. I thought that that was, and Quinn basically said it in his presser yesterday, that they probably

should have aligned differently, meaning, almost meaning, different call. I mean, you should, you should have no less than seven guys waiting at the goal line saying, yeah, you're going to have to throw this one underneath, and then we'll tackle you and you'll kick a field goal. But I love the fact that we could spend legitimately three hours on a radio show taking calls on one or two. plays in a game. That's really what... I know. My whole column was about one play. Yeah, I know.

You know, and I wasn't the only one. There were a lot of stories that just concentrated on that single play. Yeah. I mean, to your point, it was the last offensive snap of the game for Washington. It was the last time we saw him on the field offensively after the missed on side kick. It was knees game over and people shaking hands. And it really did feel anticlimactic because it was two unbelievable drives. Philadelphia answered the first one. And you know what?

Maybe they would have answered this one had they tied the game. They had a minute left. So maybe they go down and we're – Yeah, maybe we're talking about – Yeah, maybe we're talking about, you know, another error by Mikey Sanris still that gave him field goal range. because anything a minute left would have been plenty of time and they had timeouts left as well to get into field goal range. What also could have happened was Washington could have gotten their fifth three and out of the game

and Philly pun it would have to punt it and maybe Drew Stevens is kicking a field goal to win the game. Who knows? But yeah, that play was certainly a dud for sure. and I know I've had many people say to me, Jaden, you say that Jaden did what he was supposed to do, I thought he was Superman. Yeah, if he had put on the cape and said, I don't like the play that got called either,

and I don't like giving it to Bates, I'm going to try to beat Hunt on the outside, throw it to white, or run it in myself. You know, I will tell you this, if he had thrown it to white, there was a chance that Chris Paul was downfield illegally. depending on how quickly the ball would have gotten out. So there was that, too, that could have really hurt.

But, yeah, I, this wasn't really a hard one. No, but I don't know one person that said that was an exceptional call. I've heard people say, and it's not. Except the coach. Yeah. Well, I've heard people. It's a good play. It's not unfair to say it's a good play and that it works a lot.

and that it was poorly executed, yes. They're all good plays in his playbook. That's why they're in the playbook. The question is, was there a better play in the moment? And I think they're... I mean, people, I mean, for him saying, you know, it was a good play, of course. That's what they called. Yeah.

Of course they thought it was a good play. What's your... They think all these plays are good plays. I would have said, what's your other good play? Tell me about the other good play that you have. that maybe didn't get called. Yeah. Now, I don't want to get into the Dallas game yet,

because that'll be for Thursday. Okay. Oh, I can hear it coming now. It's a must-win. Well, I mean, it'd be nice if they win, and I think they're going to have, they've got a challenge defensively, even though we just patted them on the back.

But I'm not going to get into that. I think the offensive line is paper thin. Paper thin. I think that you are very close at any time to having Jane running for his life. Well, I think that it didn't happen Sunday. No, it didn't happen Sunday against a defense. That doesn't, that does not blitz. That think that they're all, like they're four in front and put enough pressure.

They blitzed a couple times. And actually, I think Jaden, I haven't seen the numbers, but the touchdown pass to Diggs was on the blitz, was against the blitz. But I just think that their paper thing, I think Coleman is really shaky. I mean, you could, I mean, people talked about the illegal motion play that that wasn't called on the Eagles. You know, you could call false start on Brandon Coleman, 75% of the time, you know? Really? Chris Paul, I think they are paper thin, and that's very worrisome.

I don't have an opinion on the offensive line yet. I need to see more of it. I thought it was a good day for the offensive line, for the most part in pass protection, more so than in the run game. But again, really good defense. really good defensive coordinator. First game with your own offensive coordinator and scheme.

First game playing together, you know, at all. I need more games. I do think that Sam Cosmey's a very, very good interior offensive guard. Yeah. I think that Connerley Jr. really came on at the end of last year in particular.

But yeah, I don't know yet. I mean, now, let me just say, the depth, that's an easy conversation at this point. They don't appear to have much depth and much room for error along the offensive line. They've got Wiley, he's a veteran. They got the rookie Gulbin, you know, as the backup center. And they got the guy to Noah Togaya, or Tegai, who they, you know, no one had heard of before really camp started. And that's it.

Now, let's see if they bring back D.J. Humphreys this week, the veteran who, You know, they tend not to keep those veterans that they have to lock in for a year salary-wise if they don't think they're going to need them. So they bring them back sometimes before week two. But, yeah, I would agree that the offensive lines depth is a concern, not a question mark, but a concern. As far as the starters go, look, it's not as good as it would have been with Tunsell, clearly. Yeah, there is, like I wrote in my preseason preview column. there was life before

Wyoming Tunsel got here. They did pretty well in 2024 without him. Again, not necessarily facing the same challenges that they'll face this year, but still, my point being, I didn't believe the season ended

when he went down. And I don't want to feel like I don't think I'm overreacting. I just got a sense that that the right kind of pressure and that offensive line is going to be the page one story the following Monday in NFL circles. Look, pass rush pressure is a big deal, period, whether you're going up against a good offensive line, a mediocre offensive line, or a bad one.

You know, if you get consistent, heavy pass rush on any quarterback, it's likely going to be the headline or certainly close to a headline the following day. You've got a, you know, you got a game plan around that. You know, if you are concerned against a certain opponent about, you know, holding up in protection, you're going to probably see a lot more of Rashad White in the backfield than Bill Kroski Merit, which we did see a lot of Rashad White in the backfield. You're going to see tight ends chipping. You're going to see, you know, Max protect if you're trying to get, you know, a pure drop back. You're going to throw more quick game. You're going to throw more bubbles.

You're going to try to run the football more. You know, one of the things that maybe I didn't emphasize enough about the Sunday, in the Sunday recap, is I do really feel even more so after the fact that there was a lot of things. patience shown by David Blow. And the quarterback, Jaden Daniels. You know, when you're going against that two, you know, that two-man high, you got to be able to run the football. You know, that's what you want to do. You want to make one of those safeties come up to the line of scrimmage so you can get

some things behind, you know, that the, that second level. And they did try to run the football. They stuck with it. Look, on that final drive, and I was a little bit more critical yesterday of the final drive and the lack of urgency, because you really needed to score before the two-minute warning time. When people talk about an eight-point deficit being a one-score game, it's just not true because more times than not, it's a two-score game. Because, again, you know, for those that didn't hear it, the two-point conversion, you know, success percentage is less than, 50% in the history of the two-pointer.

And even in the high 40s last year, it's less than 50-50. The two-point play, when I was growing up, well, actually, they didn't have it for a long time. But it took a while for teens to basically go along with the idea of going to two-point play as opposed to the guaranteed one point that you could get. You know, so I mean, you're right. I mean, it's not an automatic thing, and I don't know why people think it is. But I guess what I was driving at was that, you know, in that final drive, they probably should have been more urgent, and they, you know, they ran Ketron Allen three or four times on that final drive.

They stuck with the run. I thought you have to do that against teams like Philadelphia. First of all, you can't be in bad down in distances. And secondly, you know, if they're going to play that too high safety, you've got to try to run the football against it. I thought that overall, the two-point play call and then the third and 17 defensive call were the two worst moments play calling in the game.

So they each had one, Durante Jones and David Blow. But overall, for a first game, I think it was pretty good for the most part. Yes. Yeah. I do. I think it was. So what do you read into K. Tranow on the fat man getting those carries?

Well, once Bill put the ball on the ground, he didn't come back into the game. Yeah. You know, he literally almost lost the game on one play. Jalen Carter, you know, punched it out. But he's got to, you know, they've got to have ball security with him. He fumbled last year, remember, a few times. We've had that with backs over the last, you know, seven, six, seven years. Antonio Gibson had that problem, remember, early on.

I thought Ketron Allen looked good, you know. He got four carries, 16 yards, four yards per carry. He did a good job. I thought Kroski Merritt had a couple of decent runs. I also thought after I watched it, he missed a couple of things. I thought Rashad White looked slower than he did in Tampa. And so that was a bit disappointing because you need, you know, on checkdowns or just passes to a back out of the backfield,

he's got to make that first guy miss. He's got to, it can't be what it was with him, which is two catches for five yards. You know, it's got to be two for 10, two for 12, where he's doing it on his own. But yeah, I mean, look, it was one game. The opponent's completely different. Now the opponent has something to game plan for in terms of our two coordinators.

and we've got something to game plan for them with their new defensive coordinator who did not have a good debut. And he's a Vic Fangio disciple, Christian Parker is. And he had a terrible debut. Dallas couldn't get off the field at all against the Giants. But Dallas does have good defensive players. There was an expectation that Dallas would be much better defensively. You know, Dallas and Washington are in similar situations. Now, Washington doesn't have the skill.

position talent that Dallas does on offense. But it was defense that was the problem with them. Cincinnati, it was defense. Cincinnati went out and spent big on defense too. They got four takeaways in their opener against Tampa. Washington spent big on their defense and didn't get any takeaways, but the defense did look a lot different than it did last year. But, you know, Quinn and Williams and Kenny Clark, I mean, those are two of the best, you know, de-tackles in the game playing together. They lost overshone, I guess. I've always liked him, so they might be a little bit injured. Malik Hooker got hurt in the game too. We'll see. Big difference always in the NFL between week one and week two. It just, I mean, we see it every single year. So I don't know what

to expect Sunday. In terms of whether or not, like, it's a must win, nothing's a must win at this point, but they should be feeling both teams like it's kind of a big deal here because oh and two in this division with two division losses and both of them, either one of them, whoever loses this game has two losses, two division losses to start the season because the Cowboys lost to the Giants. So it feels for a week two game like it's pretty important. So, and for Washington in particular, with Seattle coming in the following week. Now, who knows if Sam Darnold will be there or not?

We'll find out probably in the next few days. I think he's already, I think he's out for four weeks. Is that, is that the latest? I didn't see that. I think so. Let me just double check. That's interesting. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure they're going to face True lock. Yeah. So, like I said, and have said. Yeah, you're right. It looks like a four-week return to play Mike Garifolo is reporting today. It's a very unique soft tissue injury. His hip joint is unaffected, but Garifolo is saying a week four return, which means he would miss next week and we would get Drew Locke,

which, you know, Seattle's a weird team in that the quarterback was a big part of it, but you don't feel like, you know, no Sam Darnold, no chance, like you would with Buffalo or Kansas City or Washington or, you know, Cincinnati. They're still really good in a lot of other spots. So we, you know, one at a time. One at a time, Tommy. Coaching cliche. One, not just one game at a time, one snap at a time.

Looking forward to Sunday. They're three and a half point underdogs. at my bookie right now in the game Sunday at Dallas. All right, did you have anything else on the game itself? Well, the disappointment, Stefan Diggs, foolish move. You know, I mean, he should know better, you know, a veteran like that. I mean, he owned up to it after the game. And, well, yeah, I've got something to question you about what you think about Terry, McLaren.

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Yes. The Terry McLaurin, two passes and basically took a long time for them to get one to him for, what, 14 yards? What was the issue with that? Was it just the Eagles, you know, not letting him. letting the commanders throw anything deep to him? Was it, was there a Terry, is there a Terry problem?

Is there a Terry problem? What's the problem? I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. I mean, because, you know, the coaching staff made a point of saying, you know, their goal was minimum 10 target to game. Yeah.

Look, I, I, the problem on Sunday was partly that Philadelphia was bracketing him. They were shading in his direction. And so Terry gets a lot of that. And so that made it difficult. And the team was intent against that too high safety look, Vic Fangio's staple, to try to run the football. And yes, you'd like to get the ball downfield,

but against two high safeties, that's always difficult. Now, what should be open is something, you know, over the middle of the field. And they got some of that stuff, especially when we got late into the game. But four targets, two catches for, what, 14 yards? And they came at the end. Look, one of those catches was a big one, a fourth and two. So I think that kind of explains, you know, Sunday. You know what I think of Terry McLaren.

and people always misinterpret this. He's a really good receiver. He is not a force feed 12, 13, 14, 15 targets a game wide receiver. He just doesn't get open like that. That's not what he does well. He doesn't create great space between him and the defender. It's not that he's a bad route runner. He's a good route runner.

He just doesn't watch what the rookie did on Sunday. Watch what Stefan Diggs does. I mean, massive separation they were starting to get late in the game. Again, this game Sunday, there was more shading, more bracketing, and more of an attention on Terry as the number one guy they wanted to take away. Of course. Of course he was because it was a rookie receiver and there was, you know, a 33-year-old veteran receiver on the team who's playing.

mostly in the slot, although he was playing everywhere. They were all playing everywhere. But I just, I've never understood, even when they've said it before, I've not believed that they've actually meant what they've said. I don't think that any offensive coordinator that's been here with Terry. Okay, Jay Gruden is a play caller, Scott Turner, you know, obviously Cliff Kingsbury and now David Blow. I don't think any of them have viewed Terry. And it's why there was a long protracted contract negotiation. Because the team felt a little bit differently about Terry than a lot of the fans have felt.

And that is he's a really good receiver. He's not a superstar. He's not an elite level receiver that you can just say, hey, I don't care what the coverage is. we're getting the ball to him 15 times. We're targeting him 15 times. It's not what you do with Terry. No one's ever done that with Terry. And we've had now, what did I just count through?

Four coordinators, right? With Terry going back to, you know, really Jay Gruden, who was the play caller. And they all love Terry. It's not that they don't think he's really good. They think he's very good. He's an excellent contested catch guy. he's good after the catch.

He is a deep threat. But you don't watch the league people. Watch the league. He's not at that level. He's not at that level that Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson and Amman Ross St. Brown and J.S.N. He's not at that level where you're like, it doesn't matter what they're doing defensively. This guy is, he gets open and we got to get him the ball.

no one's treated Terry like that as a coordinator or play caller and we've had four of them since he's been here. It doesn't mean that he isn't good because he's really good and he's their number one, you know, by far. But he is not top 10, not top five, more like, you know, 12 to 20 somewhere in that range. And, you know, that puts him and starts to put him in the back half of the number one receivers in the League. And that's probably fair at this point. Tommy, it's why they didn't pay him. What he wanted to get paid? So this, this is, this is just Terry being Terry.

What do you mean? He didn't complain. I know, he didn't complain. Right. But it became a storyline during the game. They kept flashing. Terry McLaurin. No pass it, no, no attempts to him.

Right. Yeah, I mean, Look, I don't really, I've said this a lot about the team that I root for when it comes to offensive football. I don't care how they move the football. You know, I don't care if it's more pass, more run, more run, more pass. More run than pass. Sometimes wears teams out, you know, and you really, you know, can impose your will. But I don't care if he's targeted four times and catches two balls and they win or not.

You know, go back to, was it, in 24, remember the first. few games, you're like, oh my God, Kingsbury doesn't like Terry. He's not getting targeted at all. You know, I'm talking about Jaden's first few games. I'll go back and pull up the stats. It was very, very little that he was targeted in that first Jaden year, which turned out to be the best year of his career. So, yeah, the opener, four targets, two receptions, 17 yards, almost identical to the game against Tampa in 2024. And then he was targeted eight times and caught six balls for 22 yards against the Giants. That was it. He had 39 yards in reception yardage through the first two games of 2024.

Then he had that big game against Cincinnati and that terrible defense, remember, on Monday night football. You know, that year just, I mean, I can go through all these years. he's rarely targeted in double digits, rarely, three times that year in the regular season, three, and then once in the postseason against Tampa. I mean, when's, Chris Alave the other day in Detroit had 10 catches, 10 catches for 182 yards. Let me see how many times he was targeted in the game, because this was a debate I got into with some of you about Alave. and Terry. 13 targets, 10 catches, 182 yards.

I don't even know what Terry's best game is, but I don't think he has many games in which he's caught double-digit balls in his career. I mean, I can find that out pretty quickly. There have been a few. I'm going to say at least a few. But he's, look, the other thing is what we have to watch here is last year he was hurt.

When he played, he didn't have Jaden. so there wasn't a lot of impact games for him. And he's getting into that early 30s, you know, age area where you do with receivers, you can see a big drop-off, especially with the guys that aren't, you know, elite. Let me see how many, I want to just see how many games he's double-d-d-rescence. Yeah. When I talk about, is there a Terry problem? Are we seeing the beginning of a drop-off?

He's got two games in his career of double-digit receptions. You ready for 10 catches against Baltimore in 2020? They got blown out in that game. That was the game where Ron Rivera was giving Dwayne Haskins a test during the game. Remember that? Oh, yeah. And then against the Giants in 2021 when they won the game on a Dustin Hopkins field goal, because, by the way, Dexter Lawrence jumped off sides on the first one.

Terry had 11 for 107. He's never, he hasn't. And then he had one, no, wait a minute, playoffs. And the playoffs, yeah, he's, the most balls he's caught is seven against Tampa. Okay. So, no, I don't think there's a Terry problem. I said all off season. I'm expecting Terry to bounce back to be in the best shape and to really,

because he's such a pro give it like we're going to get the best of Terry this year but is it possible that he's hit his peak and now we're getting the latter years of Terry it's possible I'll tell you what thank God they got digs I mean I hated the penalty too I can't stand some of that stuff that's what you get with digs, but there were just absolute, you know, he torched Cooper DeGine over and over again in that game. He is an exceptional space creating Rout Runner. Always has been. He's just got certain quicks in short spaces that Terry doesn't necessarily have. But I know, I know that you've mentioned this. but let me just mention one of the things particularly like about that first game was the performance of Antonio Williams.

And I watched a lot of the All-22. His route running is very good. And he's strong for a rookie. So I liked, that was, you know, people actually compared him to Amman Rae St. Brown, which is quite the comparison. and he's wearing the same jersey number as well. I don't see that kind of explosiveness necessarily, but he's a really, really good route runner. I can't wait to watch him more and more.

After what happened Sunday, I didn't know what we were going to get at wide receiver after Terry and Diggs. You know, the fact that they didn't activate for the game, Burks and McCaffrey, told you that they were pretty confident than Antonio Williams could play. Because they were an 11 personnel a lot more than we thought they would be, you know, over the summer. And so they had three receivers out there. And it was Terry and it was Williams and it was Diggs.

Let me look at the snap count offensively. Yeah, Terry 61 snaps, Diggs 44, Williams 26 snaps. Diami was actually on the field for 37 snaps. and did, should have drawn a penalty on that deep shot. I mean, he got absolutely mauled and there wasn't a call. But, uh, yeah, I mean, I'm going to be interested now. You know, Berks and McCaffrey, they re-signed Berks. McCaffrey's part of the, you know, 2024 draft class, which we're getting to that outer

limit of what I, you know, always think is, you know, wake me in three years and let's, then we can evaluate a draft. but those second rounders are not looking very promising. Newton. No, they're not. Senate. Sanra still. And then, of course, you've got Luke McCaffrey at the end of the third round along with,

what was the other third round? Oh, Brandon Coleman was the other third round pick. And he's obviously playing. But, yeah, that first draft right now, I mean, it'll always be remembered for Jay, Daniels, but six picks in the top 100, and it's possible that only two of them, Jaden Daniels and Brandon Coleman, end up being major, major hits. Although Sandra still did play well as a rookie, but he is struggling. Did you hear what Quinn said it?

Quinn really, he never is that direct about a player's poor performance, but he really told you yesterday. He said it was not acceptable. I don't know what they're going to do. I guess Fabian Moreau could be called up and could start. We'll see what happens because they're facing C.D. Lamb and George Pickens on Sunday. They better get to Dak Prescott. That's much.

I didn't want to go into the Dallas game, but that's got to be their agenda to make Dak Prescott's life difficult. Yeah, but to do that, you've got to stop the run first because Giovante, Williams is good. And he is a guy that can really make things easier. You've got to be in good down and distance against the Cowboys defensively. And then, yeah, you got to get after Prescott.

You got to make it. You got to hurry him up because I think we've seen enough. We think, although they played a lot of zone. I guess that it was 70, 30 zone demand. It was 84% zone on Sunday. per, I think, Sumer Sports. But you can't give Lamb and Pickens time to get down field. You've got to get the ball out of Dax hands quickly.

Have to. And then you've got to tackle well, of course. We'll have all that later in the week. All right. Did we cover the Terry situation? Yeah. All right. Let's get to the Monday night game.

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Kenneth Walker. Still going. Touchdown, Kansas City. On fourth and one. 60. The Super Bowl MVP had a big night. We'll get to that here in a moment. But Tommy, tell us about Shelley's.

Shelly's back room at 1331 F Street Northwest in the district has many things about it to like when we've gone into those extensively over the years. Their atmosphere, their food menu, their selection of cigars, the people. best you can find anywhere in the district. And in the drink menu, we've touched on occasionally as well. And I want to specifically talk about the wine portion of the menu, because while I'm not a wine drinker, I recognize that there's probably a segment of the audience that is. And I want to offer to them what Shelly's has available when they come there to smoke a full-bodied cigar, there's nothing better than a glass of wine to go with something like that. You're not a

wine guy, are you? Yeah, I drink wine, but I'm not a wine guy. Yeah, I mean, I, I, I, you and I both know people who are really into the wines and they know their wines. I'm not that person, but I drink wine, sure. Yes, well, from Italy, they have the Alta Luna Pino Grigio, white wine. They have, They have the relaxed reesling from Germany. They have the cake-prate chardonnay from California, and the Frogs Leap Chardonnay from California. Those are some of the white wines that they have. They have many more.

Red wines, interesting enough, they have the Francis Coppula Merlot. You know, the movie director's wine. They have the Joel Gott Cabernet Chavignon. They've got the wild horse pinot, noir. They have the Opus 1 red blend. Have you ever heard that? The Opus 1 red blend?

I haven't. I'm sure it's a very good red wine. Bottle of Opus Red? How much? $520. Yeah. The ones I gave you before are much more affordable. But if you're a high roller and you're heading in the Shelley's, say,

give me a bottle of that Opus One Red. Okay, and you can find out more about all their food, drinks, and cigars at shelley's backroom.com. When you mentioned the Merlot, I'm always reminded of the movie Sideways. Did you see Sideways? I think we've talked about some movies before. Oh, yes. Yes. Excellent film. Such a good movie.

And when Paul Giamatti, who played Miles, just says, you know, I am not drinking any blanking Merlot. The whole, that movie never gets old, watching it over and over again. The two of them together, Thomas Hayden Church in Paul, Paul Giamatti. And by the way, Virginia Madsen was lovely in that movie. So was, what's her face? Sandra O. I think that's her name. Yeah.

Yeah. What a great movie. If you've never seen Sideways, it is totally worth it. And you don't have to be a wine person at all to enjoy it. I'm not a wine person. Yeah. And I love them. Paul Gi-Motti's great in everything.

He's really good in everything. What's your favorite Paul Gi-Mati role? I actually have one that may surprise you. Well, actually, I liked him in Cinderella Man, the boxing movie. He was excellent as the corner guy, yeah. Yeah, he was the manager for Russell Crowe character, Jim Braddock. Right. I love that movie.

I watched that repeatedly, and I loved him in that as well. He was great in private parts, you know, as Stern's program director. Yeah, yeah. at WNBC. Yeah. Yeah, pig vomit. Pig vomit. He was good in saving Private Ryan, the small party had in that movie.

He was good in the Brian Wilson, the Beach Boys movie. Oh, God, why am I blanking on the name of that movie? It was so, so good. Love and Mercy. Love and Mercy. He was so good in that John Adams series on HBO. playing John Adams. So damn good in that.

I loved him in that. I've loved him in everything, but that was such a great series. Whenever it's on, I get sucked back in to watching it because it was so good. And Laura Linney plays Abigail Adams, and she was incredible in that.

Did you watch that? No, I didn't. I should watch it, right? Yeah, yeah. It's like, I want to say it's like 10 episodes. It was an HBO show from, I mean, it might be 20 years ago now. Might be 20 years ago. But it was, it was, you know, it was the book that What's His Face wrote, you know, the guy that wrote a bunch of political books.

Irish last name. I'm forgetting. He wrote 1776. He wrote John Adams. I'll come up with it. I'm looking for it now. I'm looking for it. David McCullough.

It was, you know, off of that book that he wrote. Right. But yeah, yeah, he's so good and everything. Did you see, did you see the Love and Mercy movie about Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys or not? I've never seen that either. I think you would really like that. I think you would really like that. That's, you know, that word gets tossed around a bit.

much with artists, but Brian Wilson was a musical genius for sure. Yeah. All right. The game last night. I'm sitting there watching this game and I'm like, I think I am watching one of the great rushing performances by a running back that I've seen in a long time. Kenneth Walker, the third, went for a buck 73 in the game, averaged over, you know, what was it?

It was close to eight yards per carry. And it was all him. It was all yards after contact. And his style, running style, it was really sort of on display for the world to see in the postseason last year and then obviously in the playoffs as well. But it's a very deliberate patient, Levion Bell-esque, you know, kind of running style. he at times will come to a near stop in the backfield and then his vision is so exceptional. 23 for 173 last night, 7.5 yards per carry. Listen to some of the stats that came out after the game.

He is the first player since 1987, and I'll tell you the player in a moment, to rush for 150 plus yards, have a 60 plus. plus yard rushing touchdown, have a receiving touchdown, have more total net yards than the opposing team, and more points than the opposing team. The last player to do that was Vincent, Bo Jackson, November 30th, 1987. There's a stat here. he generated 101 rushing yards over-expected against the Broncos. That is insanely high.

And he forced 14 missed tackles the most by any Chiefs player, you know, as a rusher or as a pass catcher ever. He was really, really good last night. And, you know, he was had in free agency for 14.3 million. over a three-year deal. We talked about him in free agency, talked about a running back in free agency, and Kenneth Walker, the third, was out there and a lot of discussion about him.

The chiefs got themselves, I think, one of those backs that is a, you know, is developing into a true kind of game-changing back. Is he, you know, is he Jemir Gibbs? Is he, you know, Derek Henry? God, I'm surprised you haven't even mentioned Derek Henry yet. You know, is he my favorite guy, Bejohn Robinson? No, but he's not far below it.

And the Chiefs looked good. Mahomes looked good. One game, Denver looked terrible with the new play caller. I wonder how long Sean Payton is going to allow that, not calling plays. By the way, speaking of Denver, did you see this story that Drew Brees was approached about returning last year to play for the Broncos in the AFC championship game after Bo Necks got hurt? Yes, I saw that. Some of the Denver coaches who knew him from New Orleans reached out to him. And Breeze took it seriously enough to do an impromptu workout with his son, right?

Yeah, what's interesting about this story I thought is that Adam Schaefter wrote it. And they said that Joe Lombardi, Denver's OC last year and Pete Carmichael, longtime offensive assistant, they were the ones that reached out to Breeze, not Sean Peyton. You know, at least it didn't say that in the story. And you just said, Breeze said, I need to get a workout in, and then I'll let you know. he worked out and he had discomfort in his wrist and he just nixed the idea. Jared Stidham ended up starting that game and there was a lot of confidence in Jared Stidham heading into that game and he played poorly in that championship game. The other thing too, did you see that Max Crosby, this was I think reported over the weekend.

Max Crosby after the Baltimore Ravens trade fell through. The Rams reached out, and they wanted to trade for Max Crosby before they traded for Miles Garrett. And Max Crosby nixed the deal. He didn't want to get dealt to the Rams, which is kind of interesting when you're playing for the Raiders. But he wanted to stay in Vegas, which I thought was pretty interesting. I think maybe he was shell-shocked from the whole Ravens mess, you know? Yeah, maybe. this is for you because it includes New York teams,

but this was the first time in NFL history that the Raiders, Cardinals, Jets, and Giants all won on opening day. And we're old enough to remember when the Raiders, Jets, and Giants were actually good at the same time, you know, the Raiders and the Jets played in some playoff games, you know, into the 80s. the Giants were obviously good I guess the Cardinals probably weren't good at the same time I'll just mention this right now

and I talked about it I think yesterday on the show the Cardinals are actually an interesting team and I know it's only one game and I'm not basing it off of one game although the Cardinals win Tommy where's that number the Circa Survivor Pool which is the biggest survivor pool out there

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But the Cardinals have, it's funny because Jacoby Burset, I've always thought, was a decent quarterback. Like, yes, me too. This guy can play a little bit. It drove me nuts about when he was here. Yeah. And they did the whole Sam Howe experiment. They've got the rookie running back, Jeremiah Love, who's not completely healthy even though he played. They signed Tyler Algier.

They have Marvin Harrison Jr. Who has not, you know, lived up to the number four overall pick in 2024 yet. And they've got Trey McBride, who you could argue is one of the top two or three tight ends in the game. And they actually are capable offensively. And it's Shanahan LaFleur, you know, it's Mike LaFleur coming from Sean McGrathes. Vey system. And, you know, that's one of those things. They had the lowest over-under number at three and a half at one point during the

off-season of any team since the 2017 Jets. And I'm not saying the Cardinals are going to go out and, you know, compete for the division or a playoff spot. But when I'm watching the highlights and I'm like, oh, that's right, Tray McBride. Oh, Jeremy Love. oh, Tyler Algier, oh, Marvin Harrison. And it's Jacoby Brissette just slinging it to wide open people against the Chargers in that defense in week one. I mean, they dominated the game.

They had like 400 yards of offense, 26 points. And Brissette, I think, threw for like nearly 300 in the game. The NFL, man. Try to predict it. You mentioned the Jets. I just wanted to go old school here for a second. There's something I came across online, a video that was interesting. When the Jets won the World Series, I mean, won the World Series, won the Super Bowl, okay, in January 69,

when they opened that 69 season later in Buffalo, there were hundreds of Bill's fans at the airport to greet the jet. What? And not to support them. Okay? Uh-huh. And the players before the game were openly, like, interacting with the jet, shaking their hands. And this was all because the NFL and its fan. Oh, right.

When the jet keeps the cults in that Super Bowl, that was a win for the entire league they saw it as. every player in an NFL uniform felt like a debt of gratitude for the Jets for winning that Super Bowl and that's the way they treated them that year you know at least in the beginning of the season and you know Bill sent how emotional they are

they were there to greet the Jets I thought that was wild yeah I mean the merger would come a year later in 1970 but I think they had already agreed to the merger like it didn't take the Jets winning that Super Bowl for the merger to take place. Am I right or wrong? I think I'm right about that. No, you're right. You're right about that. Although name is present.

Exactly. I was going to... The pressure on the NFL to merge. That's right. With the AFL. But that was an interesting sidelines. I see Bill's fans, cheer in the jets as they're getting off the plane. Wow. You know, Tommy, the Heidi game, right? the Jets Raiders in like a regular season game. You know what's interesting about that? And I've never thought about that until we just started to have a conversation

about those Jets teams in the late 60s. They were playing AFL games. They weren't, that wasn't an NFL, that wasn't an NFL game. And so the NFL, you'll remember this, I don't. The NFL had a network, had network television agreements as well. With NBC. Ah, the AFL was on NBC, which ended up being the AFC's broadcast partner when they started. Yes.

NBC with Kirk Gowdy. Yeah. Calling the AFL games. So on a Sunday afternoon in 1968 or 1969 before the merger, CBS would have the NFL games and then NBC would have the NFL games? That's how it worked. That's how it worked. And then you got the game of your home market team. And then another game afterwards, I'm assuming.

So was there a double header every Sunday on NBC AFL games on CBS NFL games? I mean, I don't remember. I'm thinking there was. I don't remember. All right. because the Heidi game was 1968, November 17th, Raiders came back to win 43 to 32 over the Jets, and NBC broke away from the game to show the television film Heidi,

featuring and starring Julie Andrews. Yeah, that was a 4 o'clock game. obviously. And I think the Raiders scores three touchdowns in the last 142. One minute and 42 seconds. Yeah, that was the story of that game, and I've got the Wikipedia page up on that, is that there was a deluge of calls into NBC, and that was one of the first indications, you know, television-wise, that this NFL is becoming a real, real popular product in this country. When they were deluged with calls over how could you bail on that game for Heidi?

Because remember, in 1968, baseball's still the king in this country. Oh, yeah. You know? Yeah. And then those teams would play. Yeah, here it is. They played later on in the AFC championship game. game and the Jets won that game to go on to Super Bowl 3 where they beat the Colts 16 to 7

and what was, you know, the biggest upset in Super Bowl history. They were, I think it was an 18 or 19 point underdog, something like that. Yeah. You know, the funny thing about that is the Super Bowl the following year, Super Bowl 4, which was Chiefs and Vikings. The Chiefs were also a massive underdog in that Super Bowl. You love those chiefs teams from that era. That 1970 defense.

Yeah. Six Hall of Famers on it. But that Super Bowl game, I don't think they were as big of an underdog as the Jets were, but the Chiefs were a double-digit underdog against the Vikings. So it was two straight years of the AFL beating the NFL champ. And yeah, let me see if I can find the point spreads for those games. Um, so the Jets were 18 point underdogs. The Vikings were 13 point underdogs.

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Dallas is a three and a half point favorite. the biggest total after all of those points, Tommy scored in week one, a record setting week one in terms of the points scored. Buffalo and Detroit, the Thursday night game, the total is 54 for the Thursday night game. That's a pretty good Thursday night game for the first, you know, real Thursday night game. Last week's was in Australia. MyBooky.com, mybooky.ag.agy.ag. All right, I wanted to play this sound clip for you.

You've watched it, I've watched it. I have a feeling many of you have watched it. Maryland plays Virginia Tech on Saturday night in College Park. It's a big game, you know. The team that wins that game has a chance to go on and have a pretty decent season. The loser of that game is not going to feel great about their season three weeks into it. Both teams are undefeated. Both teams have looked good.

and they're two kind of meaningless opponent or soft opponent games. But Virginia Tech, Maryland, not that it's a rivalry by any stretch, but they obviously played each other when they were in the ACC together, and they are playing Saturday night in College Park. And James Franklin is the head coach at Virginia Tech. During his press conference yesterday, I want you to listen to the way it began with this, guy Michael Howes from the Baltimore son asking the first question.

Hey, Coach, Michael House with the Baltimore son. Hey, Michael. Um, hey, Michael. What, what do you remember about work? What do you remember? Hey, Michael. What do you remember? Hey, Michael.

How are you doing, Michael? Michael, how you doing? Can you hear me? Yeah, I'm saying, how are you doing? Good. How are you? Good, good. So what do you think was going on there, Tommy?

I don't know if that was a lame attempt by Franklin to say hello or that he was very familiar with this reporter. Didn't particularly like him for some reason and just wanted to give him a hard time. Hey, Michael. Hey, Michael. Hey, Michael. Let me just say this. You're right. There could be some, you know, history between these two, for all I know, although,

the guy, Michael House himself seemed to be surprised by the encounter. He wrote, James Franklin really wanted to know how my day was this morning, couldn't see him on Zoom, and thought the audio was glitching. My apologies, James. James Franklin can be, you know, that kind of a guy in these situations. A little awkward? A little arrogant, actually. He comes off as arrogant and has.

throughout his career. Now, he's had great success. You know, he started like Mike Loxley did under Ralph Regian here when Ralph was at Maryland. And Franklin went on, remember he was supposed to get the Maryland job when Ralph retired. And he didn't get that job. He went to Vandy. They won there. He went to Penn State. He did a good job there. Not as good as the Penn State people would have preferred. And now he's at Virginia Tech trying to get that program really resuscitated. Because it's really the days of Beamer Ball, Frank Beamer seem way, way in the distance now. But this guy

was he expecting like an exchange of pleasantries? It's not how it works. It wasn't his first press conference. The guy Michael did a nice job introducing himself, telling him where he's from, and trying to ask the first question. I don't know what was going on there. Apparently the video was glitching. was he reacting to the glitches?

Maybe, I don't know, or maybe he just didn't like that Michael didn't say, hello, coach, how are you doing? Maybe. You know, you're not going to get me to distance guy. He's an East Trousburg guy. He was a quarterback at East Trousburg University, and he drinks at Rudy. He's okay in my book. You've told me that before.

Yes. He has a history of being obnoxious and, you know, being, you know, rude and disrespectful in some of these situations. So when I saw it for the first time, my first reaction was, God, this guy, I mean, this guy, James Franklin, I'm so glad that Maryland didn't get him as the coach, although we got Randy Edsel instead. That was worse.

Talk about a guy with a level of belief in himself, an outsized level of belief in himself. He was really a bit of a tool. Edsel was. He was. All right. Well, I'm actually looking forward to Saturday night and seeing Maryland and Virginia Tech.

It could be a really good crowd in college park. And they don't get many of those for football games. And it'll be a lot of Virginia Tech in the crowd. I understand that. As a terp, I understand it'll probably be majority hockey fans in college park. But an interesting game, you know, in terms of the area, I guess, recruiting, that kind of a thing. so yeah there um all right uh Ryan Leonard signed an eight year contract extension with the caps that's big news with the caps I know that they really like them and that's a lot of money that he signed for

uh 84 million dollars over eight years 10 and a half million per year apparently when it all shakes out caps should be a very interesting team this year they spent a lot of money on free agency and they'll be considered a Stanley Cup contender going into the year. Really? I think so. Okay, let me look at that on my bookie. I want to see if the caps are one of the favorites, one of the Stanley Cup favorites.

Come on. Really? Maybe you're right. Stanley Cup odds. Here we go. Ooh, they're higher up than I thought I was going to see. Florida is the favorite. Carolina, Colorado.

Edmonton, Vegas, Tampa Bay, Minnesota, Washington. Washington's plus 1,400 to win the Stanley Cup, the eighth best odds to win the cup. Yeah, they didn't make the postseason last year. I know, but they made a lot of offseason move. Spent a lot of money. Should I let you know what the Wizards chances of winning the NBA championship are? those odds, they're down there a bit. They're plus 150, 150,000, plus 15,000, excuse me.

They're 150 to 1. 150 to 1 to win the NBA championship. So not expecting it, but I am anticipating the beginning of this season with some level of excitement over the Wizards. It's about time. All right, anything else? Nothing else for you today, boss. All right.

Thursday, we'll get. get into the Dallas game more. I'll be back tomorrow. I think I'll have a Cowboys guest, Mickey Spagnola, who I've had on the show many times. So we'll get the Dallas perspective on tomorrow's show.