The Kevin Sheehan Show - Bradley Beal's Legacy

Episode Date: June 26, 2023

Kevin and Thom today covering everything from Carson Wentz' big kill to the College World Series. In between, Thom's Tea Room Anniversary party in Frederick County, the conflict of interest for reporters working for sportsbooks, Bradley Beal's strange legacy in Washington, the state of DC's sports teams, Ted Leonsis' threat to go to Northern VA, Antonio Gibson's fan request, Hard Knocks, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheon Show. Here's Kevin. Tommy is here. I am here. Just going to give everybody a heads up.

We're going to do Tommy this week today and Wednesday. Tomorrow on the show, Howard Gutman's going to be on, but not for the reasons that you think. Howard has some IMBD credits. Is that what it is? IMBD, the film Hollywood list? Is it IMBD or DB? I don't know.

You know what I'm talking about, Tommy? Yeah, I have some credits. Well, you have the wire credit, right? No, but that's not, I have credits for appearing in certain documentaries. Okay, well, I don't know that you have, that you are good friends with George Clooney. And Howard informed me that he was, and the reason Howard

informed me that he was is that he's also good friends with Tim Robbins, and I had mentioned that Tim Robbins was excellent in Silo, and he's watching Silo and likes it as well. So Howard Gutman's going to be on with us tomorrow and talk about all of his IMDB credits or IMBD credits, however it, you know, is the right way to say it. Let's stop right here and now. Oh, boy, God. Let me hold on, hold on. I want to walk. Let's walk into Tommy's office where there are Emmys throughout the office. Go ahead. Tell me about all the awards you've won for all of your acting. You know, you can't even read the road I'm about to travel on.

Okay. You think you can. I usually get it right. I'll take a loss here if it's true. Because it's a road that you know I've been paving for a long time, and you have chosen to ignore it. I can't help you. Howard. Howard might be able to help you.

I don't know Howard. What do you mean you don't know Howard? I don't know. Well, what do you mean? He knows you. We've had him on the show many times together. I've never spoke to him. I've never met him. Well, we've certainly had him on this podcast, the three of us together a couple of times.

Once. Once. Well, then you know him. I don't know him. All right, I'll make the introduction formally then to Howard Gutman. Okay. And let's see if Howard can help you. You're talking about the, you want somebody to read your script or your screenplay or whatever you've written. You want to get it in front of the right person?

Yes. Yeah, see, you didn't read the path very well. You just assumed I didn't know what you were talking about, but I knew once you started on Howard Gutman and not knowing him, I knew where to follow. So can I finish the tease for tomorrow's show? Did you have to get in the middle of that? Howard Gutman tomorrow talking about all the movies he's been in all the famous Hollywood stars that he knows very well. And tomorrow on the show also, I will ask Howard if he will

have, if he'll take a meeting with Tommy about Tommy's screenplay that he's written. And then I'll connect the two of you via text if that's okay. Okay. That works fine. And you know, for that, maybe it'll be a finder fee in for you or a little bit of credit. Like a associate producer or something. Let me just tell you something. I don't need the credit and I wouldn't want the credit. I would want you to succeed with this. You know how I would benefit by you being on this podcast and being my friend.

Speaking of people who are friends, a lot of you are friends out there. You write very nice reviews and you rate us five stars on Apple and Spotify. Keep them coming. This is from someone in Japan. The spelling of the name is in Japanese. I cannot read it. Probably one of the few listeners you have from Japan, Kevin Son, Tom Son, you are the best. Well, thank you.

From Japan, actually, I think we have many listeners in Japan. When I say many, I could find out exactly the number we have. Japan doesn't recently, it doesn't typically rate super high on the outside of of the U.S. list. The U.K.K. is number one for us outside of the U.S. And then, as I've told you before, we're very popular in places, hold on, I'll pull up the list right now, we're ranking very, like Bermuda, right? Bermuda is always up there. That's true. Haven't we been recognized in Bermuda? With an award? Yeah, we've been recognized in Bermuda with an award. Ah, you know where we're climbing the charts in the football category?

Saudi Arabia. We're all the way up to the number 17 football podcast in Saudi Arabia. Now, I wonder where we are in Qatar. Let me see if we've made the list in Qatar since they recently invested in monumental. By the way, you know, in the top 25 of human rights violators on the planet, not at the top of the list. Yes. But they are in the top 25. I tell you what, if there are certain things that you can do in the United States,

that you would be put in jail for in Cutter. Oh, or worse. Or much worse, yes. But I did, you know, with the, you know, you probably got some of this too. I got a lot of outrage about not being outraged about the investment from the Cutter investment fund, the $200 million for basically 5% of monumental. So I did pull up one of those human rights violator lists by country. and look, Cutters, like in the middle of the list.

They're like top 25, top 30 in countries, you know, typically. Number one on everybody's list, I would have thought would have been, based on recent conversation, I actually would have thought Saudi Arabia would have been super high on the list. And I certainly would have considered North Korea to be really high in the list and China to be high on the list. Yemen is pretty much number one on every list. I looked up, followed by Iran. And then China, Egypt, Syria, I can only imagine, North Korea. There are a lot of African nations on this list.

And Saudi Arabia is pretty high on the list. But Qatar or Qatar is, you know, down the list away. But yes, you can't do things in Qatar that you can do here in the United States or in Norway. Norway, along with Finland and Iceland, a lot of the, not that Iceland's a Nordic country, but Finland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, these are the countries that rank at the very bottom of the human rights violators list, if you're interested in that. I'd like to go to Nordic Europe. I've never been to any of those countries. Have you? I've never been to any of the Nordic countries either. Yeah. I've heard Copenhagen is incredible to go to.

It's considered, by the way, to be, I think, one of the, I think it's considered to be the friendliest nation in Europe, Denmark. In Copenhagen, apparently a very beautiful city with beautiful people, I've heard. But I am going to Spain later this week, Tommy. Ahead of your Spain trip, you're going to summer in Spain. I'm just going there for a few days. Anyway. You're trying to want up me? I'm trying to one up you.

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Tommy made me aware of something before we started to record today. He said, are we going to talk about Carson Wentz? And I said, sure, what are we going to talk about? And Tommy pointed me to this very controversial, apparently. Carson Wentz is being crucified for putting out a picture of him standing over or sitting over. a huge, beautiful black bear that he shot and killed in Alaska. Natami, was this on Instagram?

I'm assuming this was on Instagram. I believe so. Yes, it was. And he said that this was a bucket list item for him when he hunted this black bear. And people are killing him for it. So, I mean, I haven't read up on this, but let me just tell you my immediate reaction. God, the bear is beautiful, and they are,

beautiful animals and the picture I can totally understand why people would be moved to be negative about this. But this is, from what I can tell, part of a legal Alaska bear hunt to keep the population probably thin to a number that makes it better for the black bear population. That's what a lot of these designated hunts are. I'm not a hunter, Tommy, but my father-in-law and brother-in-law, and by the way, my oldest son are. And so I have great respect for this sport. I've never hunted. I've skeet-shooted many times before, and it's fun to do that. I've never hunted. I've never had a big desire, to be honest with you, to go hunting. And this is a beautiful animal that

killed. But I have no problem, and I am not triggered or upset by that. Now, I don't know if it makes good sense to put that picture out. But if you don't want, you know, a very passionate response, probably both ways. I haven't read all the responses. Maybe you have. But anyway, that's my response to it. What's yours? Well, my first response was, look, I'm not a hunter. And it's funny, because when we moved from Brooklyn, New York, where the only thing you hunted were roaches and rats, to the polka-nose, all my friends who I went to school with, they hunted. I mean, it was part of the culture up in the mountains up there. Yeah.

And actually, the first day of deer hunting, which was the Monday after Thanksgiving, oh, my God. We had all from school that day. Oh, yeah. That's the way it is still, I think, in a lot of areas of the country. country. The beginning of deer season is massive. Yeah, so, but I've never went

hunting. I went hunting with my ex-brother-in-law when I was young. He took me hunting with him, small game hunting, you know, like shooting squirrels and rabbits and stuff like that. So, and I thought it was kind of cool, but I never did it

myself. And I mean, I don't like hunting. You know, I'd Rather, it didn't have to happen. I mean, I don't like the idea of shooting defenseless animals. But, I mean, it's legal. It's a legal thing. Well, it's legal for good reasons, too. They have bear hunting in Maryland for like a week.

Yeah. And look, I don't, I'm not going to profess to know much about this. But it's legal for good reasons and for reasons that are good for the population of these animals. You know, so I, I. I'm again, I'm not an expert, but I do understand, and I've had so many conversations, I have no problem with hunters at all. I mean, I've never had the major desire, although there's something that seems very peaceful about it, because my father-in-law always talks about their, you know,

some of those fall days out in the middle of, you know, out in the middle of a forest with just beautiful smells and sounds and just sitting there in a stand, you know, and he always would say, I actually hope I don't see a deer because I'm getting, he would just read a book all day long. But I think, I don't, look, I'm not going to, again, I'm not going to sit here and try to be an expert. But I can imagine that this particular picture, which is this beautiful, huge, by the way, black bear that he's standing over. By the way, that's not, is that bow? That's not, that's not rifle. Did he bow this or did he right? Or did he, did he write for it?

That looks more like a bow to me. I don't think it was bow and arrow. That's what it looks like to me. But anyway, so he's being crushed, you told me before. Yes. Yeah. And I, it's not something I would crush him about. I have a lot of friends. This is not, this is not a dividing line for me, hunting. I mean, because I know too many people at Hunt. It's not, I mean, I grew up with that culture, but it's not part of my life.

And again, it's a legal practice. You know, it's a regulated legal practice. So I don't get the outrage. I really wasn't that outrage at the picture, to be honest with you. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, because people don't understand. They're ignorant to why many of these controlled hunts in particular are important to the ecosystem.

Maybe if a couple black bears show up in their yards and it says they're a Rockville, maybe they don't understand. Tommy, there was a black bear in Northeast D.C. last week or two weeks ago. I know. I know. I know. There was one in Rockville recently. I mean, the population is, you know, the black bear population in Western Maryland in Garrett County has always been, and they do have, and I know this because I've spent time, you know, up at Deep Creek Lake and around in that area, they have a designated, I think it's a, I don't know, a two-day or a three-day black bear hunt. They need to. They need to keep the population.

They have six days. Is it six days? Okay. Six days in Allegheny, Frederick, Garrett, and Washington County. Oh, I think that this reaction is because this bear, really this picture of this bear with Carson Wentz, by the way. I mean, I'm surprised he hit it. Carson Wentz standing over this beautiful animal. It really is a beautiful-looking animal. Now, it wouldn't be beautiful if it were hungry and it were in your backyard.

That's for sure, because it would tear your face off in three seconds. Yeah, as I understand it, and my limited knowledge, black bears will attack you. Brown bears, not so much, I don't think. Black bears will rip you apart. So coolly. Well, they won't eat you. Grizzly bears will eat you.

Well, polar bears will eat you, I think. But black bears, you want to stay away from. Oh, yeah. And look, the bottom line is you want to stay away from any of those animals when they're near their young. I mean, that's usually, I believe that to be true, that you just don't want to, you know, stumble upon, you know, their cubs. Then you're in big trouble. But so I think I've talked about this, that Cooley is coaching wrestling out in Wyoming.

He's been on the show. He's talked about it, of course, what am I talking about? So many of you have actually heard this story. But Cooley is coaching junior college wrestling. and the program that he's coaching is actually a top 10 junior college wrestling program. Chris was one of the top recruits in the country in wrestling his senior year in high school, Tommy. He got recruited by every major powerhouse, Iowa Penn State all of them. He was a state champion, wasn't he?

Yeah, he finished very high nationally, and he was a super high wrestling. He was a much higher wrestling recruit than he was a football. football recruit, but he ended up going to Utah State to play football. But two of his wrestlers at this junior college, we've talked about this a while ago, were attacked by two black bears on a hike last fall. I think it was. I'm looking, I'm trying to find this story right now. It was either in Cody or Powell, Wyoming. Here it is. I remember the story. I mean, I think Sports Illustrated did a big story about it. Exactly. Yeah, I remember that. To Wyoming. This was in October of last fall, October 18th, 2020.

Two Wyoming college wrestlers, both of these young men, coolly now coaches and knows very well. Two Wyoming college wrestlers have been seriously injured when they were ambushed in a gruesome attack. Oh, these were grizzly bears. This was a grizzly bear. Excuse me, a grizzly bear. The incident occurred in Cody, Wyoming when the two men encountered the bear at close range while they were in heavy cover. one of the men said he jumped on the grizzly to try to get him off of his friend I grabbed and yanked him hard by the ear

I could hear when his teeth when his teeth would hit my skull I could feel I could feel when he'd bite down on my bones and they'd kind of crunch the two men were somehow able to break free from the attack called 911 which elicited an immediate response they both survived one the guy that tried to save his friend was the one that was injured the worst. Anyway. Okay.

Well, yesterday, I'm glad I didn't run up into any bears because I was up in the mountains here in Frederick County yesterday. What were you doing? Well, let me preface this by saying that don't take this personally. that there was like a capacity event and there were I had I was limited okay you're on the guest list hold on say say this again I'm not following okay just don't take this personally as I described my day you don't want you don't want you don't want you don't want you don't want me to take it personally yes okay okay I'm talking to you okay got it I didn't know what you're doing okay yes go ahead

I was at Gamble State Park yesterday. At the T-Rue. I know where it is. You know where the T-Rue is? Well, isn't that in Thurmont? No, the Gamble State Park is 40 West, just west of Frederick. Okay, got it. And at the top of the mountain, they have these viewing areas,

and they also have an old, big, like, hall that was built during the Depression under the conservation corps programs that the government had at the time. And it's a beautiful building with an unbelievable view on its back deck. But it was built like in the 30s. But it's been all fixed up, and the state of Maryland rents it out for weddings and parties and things like that. So yesterday, Liz and I had our 45th wedding after. anniversary party. Oh, wow. At the tea room. Oh, so I wasn't invited to your 45th anniversary party, so this is what

you don't want me to take personally. Okay. How many people I know were invited? Well, nobody you know. We're invited. Okay. You know, nobody you know. There were nobody for you there to talk to these sites. Well, I couldn't have gone anyway because we, you know, we spent, you know, a beautiful weekend. Actually a great wedding at CJ's wedding. CJ got married this weekend. That's right. And we had a blast there. Don't take it personally that you weren't invited. So go

ahead. Continue. So back in February, we're in Florida and our wedding anniversary is January 7th. We got married in January. And you know, we're in Florida and we say, you know, we never really get to celebrate it except like just among our

self. But so we said, why not have a 45th and a half anniversary party. And Liz just suggested it and she forgot about it. Well, I made calls. I booked the room, which is hard to get. I booked the room back in early February for June 25th. And surprisingly, very, very cheap. The problem is getting the room itself. It's in demand, but the price is not expensive. and I booked my favorite band, King Saul. Oh, wow. To play at this thing. That's awesome.

I'm looking at a video of the place right now. Yeah, it's a beautiful place. We had a live band. Views, beautiful. We had about 50 to 55 people there. 50 to 55? Yeah. Wow.

Hold on, everybody. That's the title of the show. Sheehan's not even in Laverick. Top 50 or 5, 55? Liz has seven brothers and sisters with a lot of kids, you know? Here we go. It doesn't add up to 55, but continue. And we, you know, we set the whole thing up with help from my brother-in-law and Liz's sister

and my son Rocco and Andy. and it was just it was a great day. It couldn't have been any better. We had unbelievable weather. It was a beautiful day. We had bought these like tents, 8 by 10 tents, and put them out on the back deck with tables under them

so people would be in the shade. And we had a, you know, it was catered by a local barbecue company. And it was just a great day. great event. And if we could have invited you, we would have, really. Let me ask you a question. Did it ever come up in conversation about inviting me and Kara? Well, conversation was, well, here's part of the thing. It was a surprise for Liz until about a month ago. Okay. Then I told her about it. During that month, when the guest list was still perhaps being finalized before the invitations went out, were we even considered?

What do you think the answer is, buddy? I love it. It's perfect. We were trying to cut back the list. Let me just tell you something. We would have come, just so you know, we would have absolutely come. I would have made sure that we didn't miss this at the tea room in Gamble State Park in Frederick County.

By the way, it does look beautiful on the video. because these are the, you know, the Catoctin Mountains. Tommy, I did not, you know, by the way, it was a good day. How long did the party last? Well, it lasted from 1 to 5. The band played from 2 to 4. Food was served from 1.30 to 3.30. Everything went right.

The only thing that went wrong is in the rafters, and it's got real high rafters, where the band was put. plan, there was a snake hanging out. What kind of snake? What kind of snake? We're not sure. Rat snake, maybe. Yeah, those rat snakes are big. Yeah. And everyone was worried about it dropping down at some point.

Did you at any point get up and sing with the band? Well, here's the thing. You know, I sang with King's Soul before. At the benefit fundraiser they did for the D.C. a few years ago. And we were dancing to the song that I sang with them to. And I had told Tom Clifford, the leader, the singer in the band, saying, no, I don't really want to sing this time, you know,

because I'm always, because it's not karaoke. There's no set of words in front of you. You've got to remember the lyrics. Yeah. And I was always worried about forgetting the lyrics. I wasn't worried about how good I would sound. You know that. I know you wouldn't be worried about that.

Okay. But at one point, while Tom was doing this song, he reached over the microphone to me, putting it in front of me and kind of putting me on the spot. So I sang the rest of the song. And luckily, I remembered all the lyrics. And, you know, it's like every time I sing it was a big hit. Yeah, of course it was.

So real quickly, so I've never, as I mentioned, I've never hunted before, but I did grow up fly fishing, trout fly fishing, because my father, even to this day, is still a big fisherman. My father hunted, too, but fishing was more his thing. And so in Maryland, the place in Frederick County to trout fish is Hunting Creek, which is in that Cunningham, it's called Cunningham State. Cunningham Falls. All state parks.

Exactly. And so we would, you know, as a kid, I mean, I can't tell you how many mornings we were up during the summer. And we were up at 4.30 and we were going up to fish for a few hours and then come back so he could go to work. But it was a great area. That was in Thurmont, Maryland. Yeah. And. Yeah, it's up, up Route 15, a few miles north of where we are here.

Right. Which is where, by the way, Camp David is. Camp David is in that general area, although it's, I could be wrong about this. I don't think that anybody knows how, other than, you know, the president and the people affiliated with the White House. I don't know that anybody, you know, could actually find Camp David. I can tell you, it's somewhere off of Route 15, you know, those of you that have taken 15 north to, you know, to Mount St. Mary, and then into Harrisburg, PA, etc. You drive right by that whole area where Camp David is.

We went searching for Camp David one day, and I think we found it in a deeply wooded area, there was a barbed wire fence through the woods. So we came to the assumption that that was based on where we were that we thought that was Camp David. There was nothing else to indicate that it would have been. But, and I don't think we could find, I don't know if we could find it again. I don't remember how we did it.

Yeah. It was just happenstance while we were driving around on the map. I'm actually pulling up a map right now to see if it's actually listed on a map anywhere. I would bet that it's not. Well, here it is. And by the way, it's right where we said it was. You know, it's just northwest of Thurmond, of downtown Thurmond, of downtown Thurmond in that area of Cunningham Falls State Park.

And it is identified on the map. I'm sure it's, you know, obviously it's a highly secured area. And the president gets there by helicopter. But, yeah, there's beautiful catch-in-return. I would believe, I'm guessing that it's still catch-in-return. Trout streams in that area. And, you know, some of the fishing. as you get further out west in the state.

You know, we've talked about Maryland being one of these incredible states, as small as it is, having, you know, mountains and ski resorts and lakes, you know, to the west and then beaches to the east. You know, with, by the way, the Chesapeake Bay before you actually get to the eastern shore. But, yeah, lots of bears out in western Maryland. Well, let me mention. Fly fishing for a minute. Okay.

Have you ever heard of lefty? Cray? No. Lefty Cray, K-R-E-H, is from Frederick, was from Frederick, Maryland. He passed away in 2018. He was like 90, 80-something years old, I think. He's considered one of the most legendary fly fishermen in all of America. Really?

And he was from Frederick, Maryland. And they're in the process of erecting a statue for him. him in Baker Park in Frederick. It's all covered up, so you can't see it now. There's going to be an unveiling. But he wrote a book about fly fishing, and I think Michael Keaton wrote the forward. Michael Keaton was real good friends with Lefty Kray because Michael Keaton is a big fly fisherman. How about that?

And Tom Brokaw, Duke Lefty Kray was a big fly fisherman as well. So, I mean, this is fly fishing country, I guess, up here, and one of the greatest of all time. It's from Frederick. I bet you Howard Gutman knows Michael Keaton. Maybe he knows lefty cray. All right. There are some things that are sports-related that we do intend to get to. So we will start that process next right after these words from a few of our sponsors.

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I actually want to ask you about something. Did you see the story involving Shams Charania from the Athletic? Yes. Working for both Fandual, right? Yes. We're drafting. No, Fandul and for the athletic. as, okay, so let me just, because I do want your reaction.

Your reaction is actually one in which, you know, is a true media reporter perspective. So, Shams Chirania from the Athletic, which, by the way, is owned by the New York Times, is one of, you know, along with Wojj, Adrian Woj-Norowski, one of the top two reporters covering the NBA breaks, you know, he's like Ian Rappaport and Adam Shefter. You know, Shefter one, Rappaport 2, I guess, I don't know. Schefter's number one. I don't know if Rappaport's number two, Field Yates. You get a lot of them, you know, in the NFL. But he's basically one of the top, you know, he's one of the gold standards for breaking news on the NBA. And he, the other night prior to the NBA draft, reported that the tea leaves were pointed towards,

I'm looking for the exact tweet. So give me a second here. I had it up. I wasn't planning on talking about this, but then... Well, that's okay. Okay, here it is. In baseball, the comparable would be Buster-only or Ken Rosenthal. Exactly.

So he tweeted out shortly before the draft on Thursday night that Scoot Henderson, who was, along with, you know, Brandon Miller and Victor Wembeyanama, you know, considered to be the top three prospects in this draft. Wembe Nama was always going one to San Antonio. And he tweeted out that Scoot Henderson was, quote, gaining serious momentum at number two with the Charlotte Hornets. Closed quote. That's what he tweeted out.

So it comes from, you know, Shams Charania, and it's like, well, every basketball fan and every better knows that he's got the scoop here. that Scoot Henderson's going number two overall in this draft. Well, what happened was the odds shifted immediately based on that reporting. Now, some of you don't know this, but you can bet on almost anything these days, and you can certainly bet on who's going where in the draft. And prior to the Shams-Turania report, the favorite to go number two was branded. Miller from Alabama. But shortly after that report,

Scoot Henderson became the favorite to go number two overall. On Fandall, one of the country's prominent online sports books, Scoot Henderson's odds moved to minus 380 within 20 minutes of Charania's report. All right? he was at plus $250 or somewhere around there before the report. Now, again, for those of you that don't know what that means,

minus $380 means you have to wager $380 to win $100 or $38 to win $10. He became the heavy favorite to go number two. Now, the problem with this is he didn't go number two. Brandon Miller went number two from Alabama. He went to Charlotte at number two and Scoot Henderson went to Portland at number three. Now, why is that important?

Well, there was a lot of action on Scoot Henderson to go number two after the report. And so, Fandul and every other sports book where people were betting this particular prop bet, lost money and the House won. And you may say, well, maybe a lot of people bet on Brandon Miller once his odds went to plus. whatever they were, plus 250. Well, not off of the reporting. The reporting typically is viewed as, that looks like that's one of the two guys

that you've got to believe. Why am I going to put money on Brandon Miller now at plus 250 to go number two? I'm not. I'm going to put it on Scoot Henderson to go number two, laying 380. And so the dilemma and the controversy is that Shams Chirania not only works for the athletic, where he reported that news,

which is owned by the New York Times. But he also works on the Fandul's television show as a paid contributor. So, here were the statements from the various people involved. A Fandul spokesman said, Fandle is not privy to any news that Choms breaks on his platforms.

The New York Times spokesman said that Shams does not pick games or encourage people to gamble. He simply reports on news after reporting it first for the athletic around injuries, trades, and transactions. So your reaction to this is what? Well, let me just say that there was a time in our business where, I mean, this just would have been unconscionable. I mean, no one would have dreamed to allow something like this to happen.

Okay, but that's in the 80s and the 90s when newspapers were printing money and news organizations were printing money, you know, at some point. I mean, basically, you could afford to have standards back then. There are none anymore. There's no more rules. Okay. Look, Jay Blazer, who I like a lot and respect a lot, he trains NFL football players. And then he covers the NFL for Fox. Jay Gleaser trains football players, really?

I didn't know that. Trains football players. Okay. I had no idea. You know, he's a mixed martial arts specialist, and he trains football players how to use their leverage on the field. I didn't know that. And he, look, he's not secret about it.

He posts videos of it. And like I said, I mean, but that never would have happened at one time. But there's no more standards when it comes to conflict. of interest. The New York Times, though, should be the one place where there should be a standard. Okay? Maybe the Washington Post, the New York Times, that's the short list of the two surviving news organizations that have enough weight to set standards. And, you know, for the New York Times to allow something like this, it's wrong. I mean, you know, you're either a news reporter or you're a news

I mean, when you're a news reporter like that, you're a news influencer. If what you write, it's going to have a direct influence on another company's bottom line that you also work for, then that's a conflict of interest.

I mean, it is a conflict of interest, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, like, it should be or not, it is. I don't think that he reported that news with the, I don't know this, obviously, but my guess is that he didn't report that news to move the odds significantly so that

Fandle could benefit or that he could benefit from it somehow. But I do, when I read this over the weekend, I did say to myself, man, if I were in his position just the person, like, which is my primary job? Which is, you know, paying me the most, which is the most, which is the most of, important. I'm going to guess, maybe I'm wrong, that his position with the athletic is his most important position and job. I would imagine, look, I know what Adam Schaefter makes and Ian Rappaport makes. And I know the athletic is struggling at times or has at various times before being acquired by the New York Times. And by the way, let me just mention the athletic is a business partner

of this podcast. And they've been a very good partner of this podcast. But that's on the, you know, sales side. But anyway, if I were a reporter and that was my primary job, whether I was doing something, you know, even if I wasn't doing anything nefarious, you know, I was just doing my job and I just make appearances on this fan dual television network, I would certainly, with my background of being a better, I would understand the perception that it would create. And I don't think that that would be healthy for me. So, again, it's not intent. Yeah. It's the perception. But I don't think people perceive that there's rules even anymore. Well, I was just going to say, but just like, by the way, at this point, you know, Saudi investments in sports washing and all of this stuff, people are, you know,

people move on from all of this stuff. There's just so much going on. If Fandall was paying me a pretty penny to be a part of it, I would just continue to do it. Because I think most people understand, or at least would come to the conclusion that I'm not out there reporting stuff for the purposes of moving odds, you know, because I did read as part of this story that he is not allowed in his deal with the athletic to bet on, you know, to wager, this is interesting. Hold on. I want to read specifically. Charani is prohibited from opening fan dual fantasy or sports betting accounts. The company said when it hired him last year, the athletic.

The athletic does not allow reporters to gamble at all on the sports they cover. So, yeah, I don't know how many actual customers are impacted by this. I think people inside understand the dilemma, the lines that are being blurred and crossed here. But I don't know that ultimately his readers care one way or the other. Right. But the New York Times should be the adult in the room still. I mean, there should still be a couple of adults in the room, and the New York Times should be one of them. But let me show you sometimes about the New York Times when it comes to dealing with sports

and their idea of a conflict of interest. The New York Times used to own a piece of the Boston Red Sox back in the early 2000. Okay, they owned a percentage of the Boston Red Sox. So when the Boston Red Sox won the World Series in 2006, all the high-ranking New York Times officials that World Series ring. That's just shameful.

Shameful and embarrassing. And if I was a New York sports fan, well, if I was a New York sports fan, I would never read the New York Times. You know, I'd read the post in the Daily News. Right. So. Well, the post and the daily news have better sports sections anyway.

But now we're in a day where the Boston Globe is literally owned by the guy who owns the Boston Red So John Henry. So it's conflict of interest. You know, the news organization should be ultimately responsible for deciding what's allowed. And it's a bad look for the New York Times, but I'm sure most people don't even know the athletic and the New York Times are connected.

No, you know. And by the way, most people won't, well, I don't know if most people, Most people won't even understand that Ted's company Monumental owns the monumental, well, they're calling it the Monumental Sports Network, so they will know. But most customers, most consumers of it don't even think in terms of, well, then the coverage is going to be slanted. You know, they're not going to be. I don't think most people think that way. Eventually it does impact the product. I'm not suggesting that it doesn't.

You and I talked about that last week. And ultimately, the product better be good. or you won't have viewers and then won't be able to, you know, somehow monetize the number of viewers, although the regional sports networks are losing customers every day. Anyway, whatever. You can't, like, you're right about that. Eventually you have to put together a good and seemingly honest product. Because at some point, if you keep shoveling ice cream down your viewer's throat,

when they're forced to eat shit otherwise, they're going to choke on it. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's that thing in our business, the business that says content is king, and it's not content is king, good content is king. Should be. Yeah, it should be. Like this show, like this show. Okay, like this show.

So I wanted to talk about Bradley Beal here for a moment. So Brad did send a letter to D.C. through the Players Tribune, which is the vehicle that a lot of players seem to say their goodbyes through. Bradley Beale wrote, Dear DC, it wasn't easy to write this. It's been an amazing 11 years, and it's unreal to think that my time here has come to an end. You spend over a decade somewhere, and that place becomes more than just the team you play for, it becomes a part of you. And then he goes into, you know, the day that he was drafted was his birthday, his 19th birthday. And he talks about how, you know, in his 11 years, he came in with a family, that being, you know, brothers and parents. And then, you know, he's leaving with his own family, you know, wife and kids. And it's been a very important time for him.

And he thanks everybody. You know, he thanks Ted. He thanks Ernie. He thanks Tommy. He thanks the coaches. Whitman, Brooks, and Unseld, and all of the assistant coaches. By the way, I did note that Sam Cassell was the first assistant coach that he mentioned. And it wasn't, I don't think, in alphabetical order.

No, it wasn't. Sam Cassell, I think, was very significant to Brad and even to John when he was there working with Randy early on in their careers. Anyway, thanks everybody from the player development staff to the people that worked at Capital One Arena. to Chris Miller, just lots of people. And I'll just, I'm not going to read the whole thing, but he just writes, to everyone in D.C., it's bittersweet. I don't like how goodbye sounds, so let's just say, see you later. And then he writes in parentheses,

we still got 160 to get you never know. Now, what that's in reference to is he's 160 points short of Elvin Hayes all-time scoring mark for the franchise. And so he's suggesting, who knows, maybe he'll come back and end his career here. And he writes, peace, blessings, and prosperity to the city and fans, I hope you'll always consider me one of your own. So I got this tweet last week that I wanted to read on Bradley Beale because I thought it was, I thought he kind of nailed it. His name was Marshall on Twitter. There's not a single Wizards fan that misses Beale,

weirdest relationship between a fan base and a star player that I can remember. As the wizards this weekend, Tommy, were tweeting out their goodbyes to Bradley Beale after the trade was made official. I mean, just read some of the responses. They're like, they're so negative. Like, you know, this was the real Beal experience. Over hype, under delivering. Thank you for trading him, finally. They'll be out by round two in Phoenix.

There's a video, generational talent, but with like an emoji. of like, oh boy, of him turning the ball over in the last few seconds in a game against Dallas. And I think I feel some of that. Not that I feel that way specifically, but I feel that people feel that way about Bradley Beale. And I actually took calls on the radio show this morning about, you know, why Beale's 11-year career, three-time All-Star, you know, one-time all-NBA, second all-time franchise scorer, why his tenure seems to be hard to describe. And when people describe it at best, they're indifferent, they're apathetic.

At worst, they're critical of it. So what is Bradley Beale's legacy here? Well, you know, it's kind of interesting because, and it's not the same because this guy won a championship. And it was truly a great player. But he was never beloved here, and that's Elvin Hayes. I mean, he's your favorite. He's the guy that I think is the greatest player in franchise history. I do.

Okay. But you're right. He was not a favorite of his teammates. He was the favorite of fans. Was he? Yeah. Over Bobby Dandrich and Wes? Oh, yeah.

The Big E was a force in this town in the 70s. I mean, every single time he got the ball, the whole arena would chant E. But his players, look, Phil Schneers told us the stories over the years over the years about how difficult he was as a teammate. Okay, well, that's a bad comp. That's not my man. Because we have no indication that Bradley Deal was difficult at all. No, not at all. But he wasn't a leader.

That would be a good comp with Elvin Hayes because Wes was more the leader than Elvin was. Elvin was self-absorbed. Yeah. Yeah, and I don't think Beal was necessarily self-absorbed. I mean, look, I think most NBA players are probably self-absorbed, speaking from somebody who knows what it's like to be self-absorbed. I don't think Beal was that. But describe his legacy.

Yeah. It's attached to John Wall. You know, it's Wall and Beal. It's Wall and Beal. It's not just Beal by himself. Right? The two close Eastern Conference semi-final series they played,

both involving Wall, actually, wall breaking his hand in one of the series. And then I think the year after that, Wall running out of gas, because he was used so much in the seventh game against Boston, it's Wall. that whatever one you think was of value, Beal was a passenger.

And by himself, he may not have a legacy. I think it all comes down to the contract. I think it's just the contract. And, you know, it's not his fault. But they overpaid Bradley Beale by miles. And everybody sensed that that was not the right thing to do. that he was a very good player, but he wasn't an elite player. And yet they paid him the second, at the time,

the second largest contract in the history of the league. And he, on top of it, got this no trade clause, which brought back once they did get rid of them less than a year later last week, nothing in return, really, you know, as compared to what they could have gotten back, had they had some vision and traded him at the right time. And I don't blame him for that, but I think that there's a recency bias on Beale. And the recency bias is this horrific contract,

this no trade clause, and the fact that they didn't get enough back for him. And I think it's more than that too. But I think that's why, like, right now, there's this feeling of good riddance, because that's kind of what the feeling is. This is a guy that played here for 11 years

and is the second all-time score in franchise history, second all-time in games played, second all-time in minutes played, the all-time three-point shooting wizard slash bullet, but of course, you know, that's a more recent thing

compared to the greatest players in franchise history like Wes and Elvin. Tommy, you can make the case, I could make the case, as a longtime Bullets Wizards fan, he's on your list of the top five greatest players in franchise history. It's Elvin or West one or, you know, they're one, too, in some order. Bobby D. for me is three.

And then four, it's a conversation. You know, by the way, I'm talking about just in Washington. So it takes Earl Monroe and Gus Johnson. You're not talking Gus Johnson or Earl of Pearl. That's right. And then it's, you know, a conversation of guys like John Wall, Bradley Beale, Jeff Malone. You know, if you want to talk Bernard King or Moses Malone, the limited times, you know, the limited amount of time they were here. Phil Sheenier, you know, but he's in that conversation.

He's the second all-time score in franchise history. And yet, his exit is being greeted with at best apathy and at worst, good riddance. We didn't want you anyway. I think it's, it is a weird relationship. chalk it up to the recent events of the last year, none of which are his fault. Now, somebody tried to make the case to me this morning. Look, he dictated that trade to Phoenix, and Phoenix had the least amount to offer. Again, not his fault.

You know, here's a guy that wanted to stay here. You know, he's one of the few players that has wanted to stay in Washington. And I don't think he really wanted to leave from that. from a living standpoint, I think he and his wife, who had, you know, her back and forths with people on Twitter, I think they liked living here. And look, this was a, by all accounts, a very classy, first-rate guy. Now, not a leader, okay? Not an alpha.

John Wall was more the alpha on the team when they were together. And if he wasn't the alpha, then Nene was. or Rizzo was or Paul Pierce was for that one year. Now, with that said, like I said last week, I was critical of Beal a lot over the last many years. I always felt like we could have gotten more from him. I never liked the way he defended so inconsistently, the ball handling and the turnovers that were so unnecessary on so many nights,

the inability to close out games, especially regular season games. But at the same time, and I talked about this last week, some of his greatest moments were in the biggest moments during the playoffs. I mean, he was phenomenal in that series when they swept Toronto. He was incredible when John went out with the hand injury against Atlanta. He scored 71 points in game six and game seven against Boston. I mean, John Wall hit the big shot,

but Beale was the best player in that game in game six, and then had 38 in game seven. But anyway, it is a weird thing. It also speaks to just the disgust and the disdain that many have for the franchise in general. See, that's what it is. It's a byproduct of, you know, having no more emotion to invest in a product that, you know, has shown to be worthless for the investment. So I think he's basically, this is part of the carryover of, you know, the wizard's disease.

Yeah. Yep, it is. And, you know, I'm not going to root against him. Like, I've seen people tweeting, I hope he fails in Phoenix. Why? This is not a bad guy. John Wall was run out of here because the injuries, yes, but because he's, you know, he was, you know, made a big mistake with a photo, you know, flashing, you know, gang signs.

And John, look, John was, John was at his best a better player than Beal ever was. I always kind of said, Beal is like, you know, he's 20 plus. He's not top 10 to 20. John Wall at one point at his height was borderline top 10 in the NBA. and then, you know, the athleticism with the injuries, and that was his game, unfortunately. You know, I think John Wall was barely top 10, and probably somewhere between 10 and 15 at his best, but Beale was never there. Even when he made third team all NBA, there were 15 players that most people would have taken in front of Beal had you had like a draft.

But I don't have a problem with him, the person. All right. I want to get to your column that you wrote the other day. I also want to talk a little college world series, which I'm actually excited to watch tonight. We will do that right after these words from a few of our sponsors. All right, Tommy, tell us about Shelley's. Well, listen, there's a lot of benefits of hanging out at Shelley's. Okay, like I've told you about the staff, how helpful they are for picking the right to go.

and things like that, you know, if you're looking for the right thing on the menu. And let me just point out today's special on the Shelley's menu includes a mushroom Swiss burger. Let me ask you, do you like jalapino? Do you like jalapeno peppers? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I like mushrooms too.

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If I convince you to head down with Shelly's, then I'd get something to eat, that I would have done my job. What I wanted to point out was, Tony, the bartender at Shelly's, the best bartender in town, you don't just get the best, you know, what cigar to smoke. You get, you get, TV choices to pick from. He gave me a list of about 15 to 20 shows that I should watch. And so far,

he's one for one. On the Loudermy. He was the one who turned me on to Louder Mill, which is on Amazon Prime, which is absolutely hilarious. I recommend it to anyone. And now I'm watching the Outlaws with Christopher Walken,

one of the actors in it. We've got to get Chris on the show. We're enjoying that as well. Yeah, we've got to get Chris on the show. We've not had him on in so long one of these days. Well, you know, he's still busy. He's in demand. Like with this show.

I mean, he's still got a tight calendar. Everyone wants a piece of Christopher walking. Right. They all do. You know, he was not fond on the name change at all. He did not like that. Remember, he told us that, and was kind of off there for a couple of years, not following the team as much.

But I bet he'll be excited about the same. Snyder sale. By the way, speaking of that sale, the reports last week of the owners, you know, they're going to vote on this, they're going to ratify Josh Harrison Company on July 20th. It was told to me that that is the ratification date, yes, but the actual closing may happen, you know, a day two, three later. So they still have to, July 20th, he won't own the team technically because they have to go to closing and the money's got to get wired and all the documents have to be signed, but you know, sometime like July 21st,

22nd, 23rd in that time frame, it will be finalized and Josh Harris will be the new owner of the team, which will be great. And we can go down to Shelley's and celebrate. Right as training camp is about to start. Right. Okay.

So you wrote a column on Friday, I think it was, or Thursday after, I read it after the podcast. You sent it me. And it was titled, The Mass and Deal puts focus back on Leonis' play for the nationals. And this was, you know, part of the conversation that we had last week about Leonys and whether or not it would be a good thing or a bad thing if he bought the baseball team. My favorite line, which I think is really the way people think about Ted and the learners in particular,

is when you wrote, Transparent Ted may be the only man in Washington who doesn't want Dan Snyder to sell the commanders. And there's probably some truth in that. You know, I'm... I know a rising tide lifts all boats, you know, and Ted's talked about that before, but it has not hurt his franchises over the years

that the football team has been so bad and so despise. buys because of the owner. Because, you know, his teams, the caps primarily, have gotten a lot more attention than maybe they would have had the football team been great during those years and owned particularly well. And the other part of that, of course, is that anybody put side by side with Dan Snyder is going to look like, you know, one of the best owners in sports.

Yeah. And I don't think Ted is built to rush. off the criticism. He doesn't. And it's going to be a lot more intense. I mean, this, if the,

owning the baseball team comes at a time, if it happens. And again, you know, I mean, the Madison roadblock, it's still intact. It's just part of it is gone.

And once you get the rest of it gone, then you still have to negotiate with the learner, okay, which, which is going to be a task onto itself, because I'm sure they think their franchise is worth more now than it was the last time they talked to Ted about selling it. God only knows why.

Well, I know why, because the Phillies just got valued at $2.8 million, and the Rangers were valued this year at $3 million. Right, $3 billion. So while the national $3 billion and $2.8 billion, you're right. While the nationals are not the Rangers, they're not in Dallas, they're not in Philly, I'm sure, you know, the learners say, well, we're every bit as important as those franchises. So that negotiating with the learners is going to be a task in itself. But if Ted is successful at buying the baseball team and the baseball team struggles while the wizards are going through this painful rebuild,

that's a lot on his plate. For a guy who's used to being told, you know, how wonderful he is and what a visionary he is, this is going to be a rough time for him. I don't think he's got thick skin. Yeah, I think, well, I mean, I think we've seen that and we've heard that before over the years. Yes, I mean, let's face it. We've certainly heard that, you know, the various people that are employed by him on the air aren't exactly free to say it exactly the way they believe it. And so I mean, right now, I'll tell you what's just really sad right now.

It's just the state of sports in Washington. Forget the state of ownership, which is changing on the football front, which is going to be great. And personally, I don't give a shit how it makes Ted or the learners. but more likely than not Ted, because he'll be the only other owner in town of the major pro sports teams. I don't really care how it makes him feel to be compared to actually a legitimate franchise,

which will be, and it's always been, the number one story in town. I just look at it right now, and there are two ways to look at it. First of all, it is as bleak as it's been in a long, time with the current state of these franchises. The Wizards being awful, the Caps having just missed the playoffs, the Nats in major rebuilding mode, and, you know, the football team being, you know, decent roster-wise, but not a team that's more likely than not going to be a playoff team.

I mean, we have not had a playoff game to talk about since the caps were last in the playoffs in the spring of 2022. That's how long it's been. I don't want to disrespect the other teams in town. But again, when we have these conversations, let's be honest and Big Boy about it. We're talking about the four that everybody knows and has real mass appeal rather than niche appeal.

So with that said, though, the other way to look at it is the Wizards are finally doing the right thing. The football team is going to say goodbye to Dan Snyder, the best piece of news it's had in 15 to 20 years. The baseball teams rebuild. Mackenzie Gore struck out Juan Soto last night three times, or yesterday three times. And they've got, you know, a young nucleus, which some people believe is two to three years away from contending for a wild card spot. You know, maybe two years from being significantly improved. and the hockey team probably more likely than not is the closest to a postseason birth in

2024. You know, they're probably, they were the last team to go to the postseason and they'll probably be the next team to go to the postseason, although really that franchise in terms of its long-term future, it's hockey. I don't know much about it. And all you got to do is get into the postseason, see Florida here recently, and you've got a chance. But I guess on one hand, it's terrible and it's bleak in the current, but the future looks bright for, you know, at least three of the four teams in town.

But you see, here's the thing. Let's talk about two of them. Let's talk about the basketball team, like you said, are finally seemingly doing the right thing and embarking on this rebuild. And let's talk about the football team, which finally will have an owner that should function as a human being. Okay? Right. Neither of these components means they're going to get it right. I know.

I know. We're just talking about, you know, about two organizations that are going to tackle their problems with a level of intelligence. And we don't really know if the football team will. Right. You just think, you know, they can't be any stupider than the guy they're buying a team from. Right. It can't be.

And it won't be. This is just, I mean, this is just a final. got on the right road. That doesn't mean they're going to reach the end. Doesn't mean they're not going to run out of gas or crash along the way. So, I mean, it's kind of like just, I mean, it's the beginning. You've been behind, you've been behind the starting line, and now you're finally at the starting line.

The race hasn't even started yet. I understand that. I understand. I'm just saying that there is reason. for optimism as it relates to the football. Look, the football franchise is going to be more normal than it's been in a quarter century. If it doesn't compete for Super Bowls or consistent playoff appearances, it's still going to be better off than it's been. It would be impossible for it not to be.

The basketball team is entering into a phase here where there's no guarantee that the outcome will be. super positive, but there is a chance for it to be where there wasn't a chance the way they were doing it. And it does look like the baseball team may have some foundation to build upon. And by the way, and we'll get to this in a moment, maybe a superstar young drafted pitcher to build around as well. But you're right, there are no guarantees of anything. but man, it's not a great sports town right now, that's for sure. But that leads me to two more things that I want to talk about before the end of the show, because I don't want to forget these things.

Antonio Gibson Instagrammed out a picture of himself walking out onto FedEx Field, and he wrote the following. There should be no excuse for the fans to pop out now, and y'all know what I mean. All right, basically. Yeah, you all know what he means. You fans you. You better be back now that you got your wish and Dan's gone. I was, you know, I haven't heard any data on this.

I know they've increased ticket sales since this became much more of a thing that was going to happen, Dan selling. But do you think that they're going to draw better? They can't draw any worse. They really can't. I thought when the schedule came out, there's no way they're not going to sell out the opener against Arizona. They've got to sell out that opener against Arizona. It's a celebration.

It's a celebration of Dan being gone. That's when the celebration should really happen against the Cardinals on September 10th. I would tend to agree with you. This is why that opener against the Cardinals, maybe one of the most important games they played in a while. They can't lose to the Cardinals at home. They could lose. But they can't.

What a horrible way to start against a team that the whole world will think you'll be able to beat. Yeah, they're one of the biggest favorites in week one. The Cardinals are universally picked to finish last. Yeah. So you can't lose that game. See, this is in part why I said Jacoby Brissette will be the starter week one. I realize that's a long-shot pick and that's not likely to come through. But if that game is so important for them to win, they can't use a quarterback with training wheels.

Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen. but we got plenty of time to see what happens the rest of the summer. I did want to ask you real quickly. You did see that report on Friday about monumental sports and entertainment considering moving to Northern Virginia, which would include the Caps and the Wizards moving, right? Because they want the city to pay for Capital One Arena upgrades. Improvements.

Yeah. They're not moving from D.C. No way. No, I don't think they are, but they need leverage. But here's a possible scenario. Okay. You know, the commanders don't wind up building their stadium in town

and go to Maryland, and the Wizards and Cats move to Northern Virginia. And they're not talking about moving to Loudoun County. They're talking about moving in Tyson's Corner area, right? No, it's Arlington. It's where the new Amazon. Okay. know, headquarters are.

So they're not, it's not like the commanders talking about moving out to Loudoun County. Right. Okay. They're just, they're going to be real close. Inside the Beltway, yes. Yes. So, while I don't think that'll happen, the city can't afford to be arrogant about it because they can wind up not having two teams, three teams, the basketball team, the hockey team, and the football team.

I don't know what they're going to do with the football team because from what I've heard the Josh Harris group, they have zero money for a stadium. None. You've heard that? Yes. Two more things real quickly. One is that it looks like the Jets are going to get hard knocks.

All right. Boys and Girls, not Washington. That made sense right from the beginning. The Jets don't want it, but they don't have a choice. they're one of the four teams that can't say no. Washington's one of those four teams as well. But Aaron Rogers being in New York, I mean, that's what most football fans would rather watch rather than an ownership change. That's not really, that's what we care about, but it's not what an NFL fan necessarily cares about. I agree. I mean, I think that I've said that if you're a major sports media organization, you should have an Aaron Rogers reporter in New York, just to cover

Aaron Rogers. Well, they'll be loaded there when training camp begins for sure. And then lastly, are you going to watch the Florida LSU College World Series game three final tonight? I hadn't planned on it. Well, I mean, you being a baseball person, apparently this has been a great world series. Apparently the LSU Wake Forest game was an all-time college baseball game. but it's this Paul Skeens who the Nats may have the chance to draft next month, early next month in the MLB draft, that is the best pitching prospect since Strasbourg. Now, it's unlikely that he'll get the start tonight on three days' rest, but they'll have him more likely than not coming out of the bullpen. And Dylan Cruz also plays for LSU, and he's considered to be the number one or number two pick. The Nats are going to end up with one of these two players.

at number two overall. And I had a guy on radio this morning, this guy Roy Philpott from ESPN, who's been covering and calling games at the College World Series, who said he thinks skeins if he's drafted whichever team, Pittsburgh or Washington that picks him, that he'll be pitching before the end of this year. He's that good. Wow. So can we schedule the Tommy John surgery now and get it over with? Well, that's the concern is he's pitched so many innings here during this College World Series. And his last start was on short rest. And so if you're a Nats fan, you want to see him pitch maybe, but you don't want to see him pitch and risk the arm on a second straight short day rest appearance.

LSU won game two, 24 to 4. Oh, there was another story associated with this. I don't know if you saw it. Did you see the Jellowshot story? No, I did. Denton made me aware of this. So this bar in Omaha right across the street, I guess, from the stadium, the bar is actually called Rocko's canteen or something like that.

Really? Yeah. Every year they hold a jello shot challenge. $5 jello shots, and you come up and you order a jello shot, and you tell them which team you're there rooting for, of the eight teams that make it to Omaha. And then there's a running count and a board of the running count of how many jello shots each team has ordered. And $1 of the $5 shot goes to some charity for each of the schools.

Anyway, last year, Ole Miss apparently set the mark with, I think it was 17,000 shots, which shattered the previous mark. Well, right now, LSU is at 46,000 jello shots during this college world series. You do know what a jello shot is, right? Yes. Okay. Because I'm wondering if this was a part of your younger years. Did you have jello shots at the University of Miami?

Did not have jello shots at the University of Miami then. Okay. We had jello shots. I think maybe the last time I did a jello shot was 20 years ago. Jellow shots, by the way, went down very easy and then knocked you out pretty quickly. But $46,000, and like the next closest was like $8,000. Those LSU people aren't fooling around. Yeah, Louisiana, they're professionals.

They're pros. Okay. They're pros. All right. We've gone long today. But it was very good. You did an excellent job. You'll be back with me on Wednesday.

And tomorrow, Howard Gutman will be on the show. Can't wait for that. Do you have anything else to add to the show? You've done so well. What are you going to talk to Howard Gutman about? I'm going to talk about his, you know, Hollywood acquaintances and friends. and I'm going to say to him, will you give Tommy a meeting

so he can pitch you on his screenplay and see if you know anybody that he can take it to? All right, boss. Now, I don't know. Do you want him to sign a non-disclosure before that meeting? No. No, no, no. I don't give a shit about that.

What are you kidding? Look, I'm playing the lottery here. I bought two tickets to the lottery. That's what I'm doing here. All right. I'll talk to you later. I'll be back tomorrow with Howard. All right, boss.