The Kevin Sheehan Show - Bucs In A Blowout

Episode Date: February 8, 2021

Cooley and Kevin recapped Tampa Bay's blowout Super Bowl 55 win over Kansas City. They discussed some of the WFT QB reporting from over the weekend along with some weather, skiing, and Drew Pearson vs Gary Clark HOF talk.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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But, Korn Kowski again with the touchdown. Tom Brady. He did it again. Seven Super Bowls in 10 appearances. I think it's pretty safe to say. If it wasn't already, he's the greatest. team sport athlete of all time in terms of his accomplishments. We could debate that at another time.

I feel like the last couple of Super Bowls, when he's won those, we've said the same thing, Chris. But he was great. But bottom line is defensively, Tampa Bay was awesome. We're going to get to our complete recap of the game. But you had something to start the show off that had nothing to do. with the Super Bowl, what was it? It's been fairly warm here. It's a really mild winter until this week.

Kevin, if you look up Ralston, Wyoming, which is where I live, in between Powell and Cody, it's going to be brisked today with the high of four. But Thursday, Friday, I'm not sure how to deal with. Thursday's high is negative 9 with the low of negative 16. see that right now. It says negative 9, negative 17 on my iPhone weather app. Then negative 6, negative 20.

Then it warms up to a high of negative 2. And then, boy, a week from Wednesday, you're all the way up to 24. That's awesome. And now we're back into the mild winter that we've had. Have you been in a negative 25 situation? No, but, you know, it's interesting. You know how I follow. all the winter weather stuff.

And we had snow yesterday. The forecast really busted a little bit. I don't know. These weather people, and I love Doug and I love Sue, and I love the people at the Capitol Weather Gang, it's a really hard area to forecast. And it always is. And we had heavy snow throughout the morning,

but it was 36 degrees. So it stuck to the grass, not really the streets, and then it was melted and all gone. So that's the second straight. We had Cooley last week four consecutive days where it snowed. It was crazy. So this week upcoming, if you plug in Bethesda, Maryland right now into your weather app,

and look at what we have going. I've never seen so many days with snow in the forecast over the next week and a half. I mean, I still have Leesburg, Virginia, and my weather app. I check the weather there all the time. Six of the next seven days have snow in the forecast. Now, I'll tell you, these weather apps on the iPhone weather app, they're never right. The weather people and those of us that follow it, we are definitely looking at a super cold, super stormy period

for probably the next week and a half to two weeks. And some of these snowflakes that you see, even in Ashburn, could be potentially, like there's a chance of a major ice storm here, which, by the way, sucks for everybody. Nobody wants that. Give me the snow every single time over a stupid ice storm. But one of the models that I pay attention to actually was showing that on early Monday morning, a week from today, the high temperature in like the northern and western suburbs of D.C.,

the low temperature, excuse me, on that Monday morning was going to be around zero, and there could potentially even be some below zero numbers. And we haven't had, I think we haven't had a below zero temperature. at Reagan in like 20 years. Now, Dulles has had some below zero numbers over the years, but in town and in super close, there have been some single digits, you know, many times, but it's going to be apparently a very interesting, and for some people, rough week and a half to two weeks of February. Lots of storms, lots of cold. It's actually nice today. It's cold. It's cold. Tomorrow is supposed to be lovely and then it's all downhill from there.

But we don't get the same temperatures that you get out there. I mean, that's ridiculous. Our temperatures have been really comparable until this point. But it snowed Friday and Saturday. There's not, other than the main highway, there's not a road that isn't covered in snow. You drive on roads covered in snow. Yeah, because they don't put salt on the roads here. Right. They plow.

And the other great thing about this. they don't cancel school. Yeah. This is a normal day. We actually had, this was funny, my wife put together this whole children's tea party yesterday, little girls tea party on Super Bowl Sunday. And she said around 10 o'clock, she didn't know.

Around 10 o'clock, she said, do you think they'll come? At that point, it was negative three, snowing. I said, yep, they'll all come. And they did. They did. The weather phase is nobody here. But dude, I went outside and shoveled snow yesterday, and I don't have that much snow to shovel. How much snow did you get?

Oh, a few inches, but the wind blows, so it drifts it a little bit. Right. I was outside for five minutes, and I didn't put a stocking cap on. My ears were going to fall off. Yeah. It negative, and it wasn't windy. At the time I did it, it was completely calm. It looks beautiful outside, even right now.

But you go out without gloves and a hat for five minutes. You're cold. It takes just a second to set in, but then you're cold. It's cold, man. I just, I'm, I'm, this is real weird, but I'm so excited to walk outside at negative 22. I'm going out there. Even if it's four in the morning, I'm setting my alarm clock. I'm going out.

You got to do the thing where you throw the water up in the air and if it falls as ice crystals? I will. I'll go out, sit in the hot tub at 5 o'clock and throw it up and see what happens. As long as we're talking about weather. So yesterday, I got up, you know, I just, I get up, period. I get up at 4.15, 4.30 every morning. Doesn't matter if it's the weekend. That's what time I wake up.

That's my body clock now. And, you know, on the weekends, I will try to go back to sleep. and, you know, at least get out of bed at like 5.30, which, you know, six is like really sleeping in for me these days, which is pretty pathetic. God, when I was younger, I used to love to sleep. Anyway, I got up early yesterday and couldn't go back to sleep, and I looked outside and it was raining. Now, we had a winter storm morning. They were calling for three to six inches of snow, and it was pouring. And so, you know, I got some coffee and I, you know, I missed a couple of the late games on Saturday night, college hoops games. And I did not watch any of the Super Bowl Saturday night stuff. I did not watch any of it.

I did. So I watched the Alex Smith acceptance speech, you know, at 5 in the morning or whatever yesterday morning. But anyway, I just decided, I looked outside and you could see it was starting to change to snow. So I, the dog doesn't get up that early. So I went for an hour and a half walk. I went, I, you know, got bundled up, got my headphones, was listening to music, and went on a, literally, a 90-minute walk from like 515, got back at 6.45. and it literally, coolly while I was out, turned to some of the heaviest snow that I've ever seen. Those of you that live here, you know that yesterday morning, some of the flakes that were falling

were the size of like mini pancakes. Because it was a very heavy wet snow. It was above freezing at the surface. But for those of you that know a little bit about weather, the 850 numbers, the below zero numbers up above, produced, you know, snow, it just fell onto a surface that was above freezing. But usually it's that above freezing or right around 32, 33 degree snow that can produce really large flakes. Some of the biggest flakes, coolly, I swear to God, everything whitened up in a matter of 10 minutes because it was snowing so hard. And it was just the nicest, most peaceful,

walk I've been on in so long. The best part about it, no wind, it wasn't that cold. It was like, I think on my phone it looked like it was 34 degrees. So it was above freezing, wasn't cold. And I just walked for 90 minutes, listened to a couple of podcasts, listen to some music. And it was just very peaceful. And I just enjoyed myself by myself when I was up that early and actually didn't have to go to work, which was nice. Then I came home, had breakfast, and I actually got a quick nap in when I got home, which, God, is there anything better than, like, the 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. nap on a Saturday or Sunday morning after you've been up. I don't understand what that is. Well, if you've been up for several hours, then all of a sudden you're exhausted, and I'm like,

you know what, I'm just going to lie down, and I fell asleep for like an hour. It was great. I went skiing on Saturday. You went, really? I took the kids ski. I took the kids ski. Okay. So I skied backwards the entire day with my three-year-old. And how did he do? He can ski down the bunny hill by himself, three years old. What about your daughter? Is she a good?

She was great. She had a, they have ski school things set up. So she did all the lessons, the pizza and the. Yeah, pizza stop and all the things. I'm just going to tell you right now. They're both pretty athletic kids. Yeah. I'm a better coach than this.

ski instructor because my three-year-old was skiing better than my six-year-old um how are your knees on skis awful yeah it's so bad it's so much it's so much this was embarrassing we got there the they have this thing called the magic carpet it's a moving walkway that goes up the hill to the bunny hill so trying to get my kid on it's his first time on skis ever all time and he kind of stumbles getting on and i leaned grab him my boots come out of my ski bindings, I flopped down of everybody on the magic carpet. I'm like, it's the world.

Okay. We'll get back in line. We'll just, we'll get back in line. We'll just, we'll get back in line. I can't even walk today. But I haven't skied in 15 years. But you were a skier. I was a, yeah, I was a skier. But I had to ski back. I skied backwards the whole day.

I skied forward for total of like 30 seconds. Were you a snowboarder? I did it for two years. I didn't like it. Uh-huh. Anyways, I had one more, what do you got? I loved skiing, but I didn't grow up skiing. So I didn't start skiing until I was older. We were very much sort of a warm weather vacation family.

If we went on vacation, it was always warm weather, even if it was the winter. My father had zero interest in skiing. My mother had zero interest in skiing. So I probably went skiing for the first time when I was in junior high, middle school. But I do love the whole skiing environment. Like Karen and I, and I actually, with friends, we went out west like eight or nine years in a row. I did a Colorado Aspen trip with a bunch of friends for four years in a row. Then when we got married, we did Aspen and Vale. We did Jackson hole one year for like five or six years in a row. I like the whole scene. I like the whole scene.

of out west skiing. I don't love this skiing. It's fine. I mean, you know, I'm not a great skier, but I can get down, you know, almost any mountain except for I don't really, you know, travel in the double black diamond circles. But I like the atmosphere, especially the opera ski. I enjoy the cocktails, the fire, the hanging around with friends. Sure. You know, that's fun, you know, in a climate where it's snowing and it's beautiful. I like, that. But anyway, you said you had some else. Skien's a great thing for families because you talk to your kids the whole day. It's true, but you, it's also a shitload of work.

Oh, dude, I was exhausted. I know. That's what I am to do. And then I have a three-year-old and it's like, okay, he's got to pee. So you got to go in. I got to take his gloves off his throat off his stuff off. He's flopping around. And then I got to put him back on and all those things. And they're like, oh, my God.

Well, how about just the equipment when they're young and getting the boots on, getting the skis on, getting poles and everybody needs help? It is just a lot of work. But the thing is, he'll figure it out by next year. Yeah, I understand. You're hoping. Like my daughter, I had to help her the whole time, but she'll two times and she'll get her stuff on. Look, even without kids, it's a lot of work when you're just doing it yourself. I mean, just walking up with, you know, carrying the skis and walking in those boots, it's just, let me just say this.

A golf trip in warm weather climates, a lot easier. So much easier. So much easier. Not a whole car full of coats and hats. Oh, everybody's wet and people, there's snot coming out of everybody's nose and people are hungry and thirsty and it's like, oh, Jesus. The one thing about a good day skiing is it wears everybody out. And when the kids are younger, they get home and they are done. Done.

Yeah. Done. Anyway. So we're going to get to the game. This is involving the game, which was slow. But do you watch the streaker or the rogue fan? Yeah. One, two pretty good moves to avoid initial.

You made a good cutback. We'll play Kevin Harlan's call here shortly. And a really nice spin move. But if it's Super Bowl Sunday, there's no fucking chance I'm sliding down on the one. Yeah, he went down with the one-yard line sliding. The security guard that comes in and tackles him, that's pure helmet-to-helmet-com contact.

That's a personal foul right there. Don't tie him how to tackle. But I'm just telling you this, I'm going to jail. I'm scoring. there's no chance I'm not going to score. What a dope. Here was Kevin Harlan's call of the guy that ran out onto the field. Here it is.

Down 20, 503 to go. Someone has run on the field. Some guy with a brawl. And now he's not being chased. He's running down the middle of the 40. Arms in the air in a victory salute. He's pulling down his pants. Put up your pants, my man.

Pull up those pants. He's being chased to the 30. He breaks a tackle from a security guard, the 20, down the middle, the 10, the 5. He slides at the 1, and they converge on him at the goal line. Pull up your pants, take off the bra and be a man. And the players with hands on hips at the other end of the field are looking at them and shaking their head and saying, why, oh, why is this taking place in a Super Bowl? Kevin Harlan, that was the Westwood one call.

I think that was Ross Tucker, too, I think, on the call. be wrong about that. Ross does a really good job on the calls for Westford one, and it sounded like him. But Harlan, a few years back, had the call of that black cat who ran onto the field during, I think it was a Giants game at the Meadowlands, and he was calling the play-by-play of that. What's really interesting about what happened last night, Cooley, is CBS showed that guy for longer than they typically do. You know, they really, the networks over the years, whenever something like that happens, They don't want to show any of it because they think it'll just encourage future, you know, attempts at that. And then they finally got away from it.

But we saw on television at least five, six seconds of it before they cut away. They shouldn't have cut away. There was nothing. The game was terrible at that point. Just probably just stay with it for a second. This is the only thing keeping anyone's interest right now. Yeah. Just hold.

Yeah, we got to pull away guys now. People are going to come after us if we don't pull it away, pull it away. Gosh, I wish we could have stayed with that. Yeah. I had a couple of things real quickly, and then we'll get to our recap of the game, which we pretty much nailed on Friday.

We don't always nail it, but we pretty much both had it right. And I will mention my smell test results, which were pretty good from over the weekend. I'm also going to tell you about a couple of prop bets I had, one that was very, very interesting, never even knew that this one existed. But I've got two things for you. Number one, the odds for next year's Super Bowl, 2021 or the 2022 Super Bowl in February of 2022 came out. And

they're interesting because of where Washington is on this list. First of all, the chiefs are the favorites at five and a half to one. This is the Caesar's sports book by William Hill odds. It came out right after the game. Chiefs are the favorites. The Packers are at 9 to 1. The Bucks are at 11 to 1. The Ravens, Bills, 12 to 1. The Rams are 13 to 1. The 49ers are 14 to 1, and then you have the Saints and Seahawks, 16 and 18 to 1 respectively. Those are the top 9 teams. In that group, by the way, if you were counting along, six of those teams are NFC teams. So so far, there are six NFC teams predicted to finish a head. head of Washington, but there are many more, okay, because the Cowboys are 30 to 1,

the Cardinals are 40 to 1, the Vikings are 40 to 1, the Bears are 50 to 1, the Eagles are 50 to 1, and then you get to the group of teams that are at 60 to 1, and among that group are the Panthers, the Falcons, the Broncos, and your Washington football team. Only Jacksonville, the Giants, Bengals, Lions, Jets, and Texans have worse odds to win the Super Bowl in 2021. And only the Giants and the Lions have worse odds, NFC-wise, to win the NFC championship and even get to the Super Bowl. So I know that a lot of you were really rooting for Tampa Bay to somehow come up in your own mind with how close Washington is.

you know, hey, Tampa, we play Tampa tougher than anybody. You know, look at how close we are to winning a Super Bowl. And look, I'm not trying to kill the spirit and the optimism because I'm optimistic. I think that they were massively improved, and there's a lot to be encouraged about in terms of Rivera and the staff and the young defense, especially up front, and players like Gibson and McLaren. But what it says to you is two things. One, there's not an answer to quarterback right now that will inspire anybody.

out in the desert to make Washington anywhere near the favorite to do anything next year. And number two, I've mentioned this before, as much as I am not a big schedule guy, the uniqueness of Washington's schedule next year in which they play, you know, maybe the toughest slate of starting quarterbacks any team has ever had to face on paper. Now, these guys might all get hurt and not be available when Washington plays. But in the AFC, if there's a 17-game schedule, they're going to face Josh Allen. They're definitely going to face Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert. That's in the AFC.

In the NFC, they're going to face Aaron Rogers. They're going to face Tom Brady. They're going to face Matt Ryan, probably not Breeze because he'll be retired. They're going to face Russell Wilson. The only elite quarterback in the game that you have that anybody has in like the top six or seven of quarterback. that they won't have to face next year as of now is Deshawn Watson. Every other elite quarterback is on their schedule. So when you don't have one and you're going to play six or seven teams, I'm not even mentioning Prescott twice if they face Prescott. And I wouldn't call him an elite quarterback by any

stretch of the imagination. But my point is, I know that many of you are optimistic and I'm more optimistic than I've been in a long time, but just so you have a sense of the reality of what The handicappers think, they think Washington is the third worst team in the entire NFC heading into next year. That only the Giants and Lions are worse on paper. In fact, what's surprising to me, not that they're that low, I didn't think they'd be super high. What's surprising to me is that the Eagles, like if this were broken down by division odds, which I haven't seen anybody post the division odds, the Cowboys would be the favorite.

the Eagles would be the second favorite. And their quarterback's situation is hardly solidified. And then Washington would be the third favorite, followed by the Giants. None of this means anything. I mean, Washington was the dead last pick, I think, this year to do anything. And they won the division at 7 and 9. But I'm surprised at the Eagles. Like, if I were making division odds right now, if I were the handicapper out in Vegas,

I would make Dallas the favorite, a slight favorite, assuming that Prescott resigns, and that's not a definite. Apparently, they're very far apart, according to the latest reports. But assuming Prescott, the Cowboys are probably going to be the favorite. And then I'd have Washington, even if it's Kyle Allen and Taylor Heineke, I'd probably have Washington as the second, in a pick-to-finish second, followed by the Giants and then the Eagles. I think the Eagles seem to be in complete disarray.

we can talk about Carson Wentz here and Sam Darnold and some of the stories that came out over the weekend and we will get to that a little bit later on in the show. So that was my first sort of what do you got. The second one was, I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this, but Drew Pearson was elected to the Hall of Fame. Drew Pearson, the longtime cowboy receiver in the 70s into the early 80s, the first number 88 of the Cowboy 88s.

Then it was Michael Irvin, then it was Des Bryant. Drew Pearson was a class act in a, really, really good wide receiver. Personally, I don't think he's a Hall of Fame wide receiver. His career was 11 years. He played in 156 games. He had 489 receptions for 7,822 yards and had 48 touchdowns. He's most known for two plays.

The Hail Mary, which is what the actual Hail Mary throw, was tight, was originally, the original Hail Mary was Roger Stawback. to Drew Pearson in the 1975 playoffs in Minneapolis, Bloomington, Minnesota against the Vikings, where Drew Pearson pushed off, Nate Wright caught it, no call, Cowboys won 1714. And then the other legendary catch he had was on Thanksgiving Day in the Clint Longley game against Washington, where he beat Ken Stone with 50 seconds to go on a 50-yard bomb to beat the Redskins 2423. The reason I bring this up is let me just put Gary Clark, side by side with Drew Pearson.

Okay? Drew Pearson, 489 career receptions, 7,822 yards, 48 touchdowns, 16 yards per reception. Gary Clark had, in the NFL, not even counting his USFL, where he was very productive, in his 11 years, same amount of time, 699 catches in his career. for 10,856 yards in his career, 65 touchdowns, 15 and a half yards per catch. And by the way, was a part of two Super Bowl winning teams. Drew Pearson was a part of Super Bowl teams as well in Dallas. I'm sorry, but if Drew Pearson is in the Hall of Fame, Gary Clark should be in the Hall of Fame.

I'll also say that if Drew Pearson is in the Hall of Fame, Brian Mitchell should be in the Hall of Fame. Now, it's not a receiver-to-receiver comparable, but Brian Mitchell is still second all-time in all-purpose yardage behind Jerry Rice. So if Drew Pearson is in the Hall of Fame, and I don't believe Drew Pearson's All-of-Famer, I think he was a great player. But if Drew Pearson's in there, Gary Clark should definitely be in the Hall of Fame. His numbers dwarf Drew Pearson's. So anyway, those are the two things I have. I'm totally with you. Whoever lobbies for Dallas must be awesome,

or it's just the Dallas thing. I mean, aside from being a big part of a Super Bowl and in Super Bowls, his receptions yardage touchdowns is not even that dissimilar from what I'm. I had. And trust me when I say this, I am not going in the Hall of Fame, ever. Don't deserve to be there. But this isn't that dissimilar from my career. Yeah. Drew Pearson was a part of 22 playoff games. You know, the Cowboys of the 70s and the Stawback, Pearson, Tony Hill, Golden Richards, Tony Dorset Cowboys. I mean, these are the teams that I know probably as much as any cowboy fan knows because the rivalry was so huge between the two teams. And there were so many

legendary games. But he had 68 receptions in 22 postseason games. Gary Clark had 58 receptions in 14 games. So, you know, Gary Clark had six touchdowns in 14 postseason games. Drew Pearson had eight touchdowns in 22 postseason games. I mean, it's postseason careers big time. It is, but so is Gary Clark's. Gary Clark had 58, you know, career playoff receptions in 14 postseason games for 826 yards and six touchdowns. Pearson had played in eight more playoff games and had 68 receptions, so just 14 more

and roughly 300 more yards and only 2.000. two more touchdowns. Pearson had also a big-time game winner against, I think it was the Falcons in the 81 playoffs from Danny White. You know, he was definitely, the Cowboys were such a marquee team, Cooley, and Drew Pearson was part of that, you know, allure and attraction. He was smooth. He was class-act.

He was a really good player. He was a really good player. He also had a first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback and was part of some of the great teams in that era of the 70s Cowboys. Gary Clark was part of some of the great teams too. Did not play with a Hall of Fame quarterback. Did not. I just, you know, it's funny because over the years,

I've never really considered Drew Pearson to be a Hall of Famer. And the truth is, I've never really thought, of Gary Clark is anything other than a guy that should have been like on a semi-finalist list. You know, if he didn't get in, I understood it, even though some of his numbers are better than guys that are in. But now that Drew Pearson is in, I'm sorry, somebody's got to bring up Gary Clark. Gary Clark had a phenomenal career. Yeah.

And by the way, came up big in a lot of big games for them. Big games for, like, let me look at just the Super Bowl numbers. So he had in the Super Bowl went over Denver, three catches 55 yards in a touchdown. The Super Bowl went over Buffalo, seven catches 114 yards in a touchdown. And he was big time in the postseason. What is the deal with these guys? It's almost like the entire MO of the hogs overshadows someone like Jacoby getting in. And maybe the art monk had more reception yards than Gary.

so it overshadows Gary in his own team. You can only take one of them. So let's put Russ Grimm and Art Monk in. And the rest of them, yeah, you were a good team. Yeah. Fair. It's really not fair. I mean, it took Art Monk way too long to be in the Hall of Fame.

And again, it's like if Drew Pearson didn't get in over the weekend, I wouldn't be here railing about Clark. I've done it before and I've compared his numbers to like Loftons and some other, you know, Hall of Famers. And Gary Clark has deserved more consideration. Now, the one thing about Clark that you have to understand is Gary Clark came from the USFL. And for whatever reason, you know, that may have been a bit of a mark against Gary Clark.

And he had, by the way, in Houston a very productive career as a USFL receiver. I'm pulling up his numbers right now because I don't have them obviously in front of me. By the way, he was a two-time Super Bowl champion, a four-time pro-time. pro bowler. Okay, so let's remember Gary Clark was a four-time pro bowler. How many times... Four times, just so you know, is essentially the cutoff for you're going to be considered. You make four pro bowls. You should be considered. Drew Pearson's got three all pros, three pro bowls, three pro bowls. Gary Clark's got four pro bowls, three-time all pros. So he's got one more pro bowl and the same number of all pros. He was all pro 86, 87, and 81.

Um, Clark. Pro football reference says Gary Clark was all pro, first team all pro one year. Um, I've got... In 87. Uh, maybe, maybe first team. I've got a three-time all pro designation here. So I don't, I don't know if that's, um, maybe he was a, hold on for a second team all pro? Uh, no, on pro football reference, I've got four, uh, I've got three.

Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. You got 87 as the one year that he was in All-Pro. That's first team all-pro, and Drew Pearson was three times a first-team all-pro. So Clark must have been a second-team All-Pro three times. Or twice. Anyway, bottom line is, and I can't find his USFL numbers. I don't know why I can't find him.

But he was pretty productive in the USFL as well. Anyway, I don't know. To me, it's like, look, should he be in? I think he should. Does he deserve more consideration than he's gotten over the years? Absolutely. Like, you can't, you can't debate now that you put Drew Pearson into the Hall of Fame that Gary Clark shouldn't be in consideration for the Hall of Fame.

Gary Clark, those that understood what he was about Cooley, and he's before, you know, your time, Gary Clark, was that guy, more so Clark than even Monk was the guy you had to game plan for. You had to try to take out. Because he was going to beat you deep. He was going to beat you over the middle. He was going to beat you yards after catch.

You know, Monk really was in many ways the ultimate in possession receiver. You know, Gary Clark was in Sanders, Ricky Sanders was definitely a deep threat. They were the move guys. Yeah, they were on the move. Yeah, Ricky was the H and Gary was the Z and they were the guys that moved a lot more. Yep.

Art was the X. Art moved a lot too. Joe moved everybody. Joe moved everybody. But yeah, that's wild. I didn't know Pearson's career was quite. I mean, you'd look at his playoff career and you'd also say that we termed Hail Mary after that guy who's a part of it who's had that career. It makes him pretty memorable.

Yeah, he did push off. memorable. Big stats aside. Pearson's more memorable. Yeah, but that's because he played for the Cowboys. I understand that, but that's the premise of the Hall of Fame. No, it isn't. To some extent, yeah.

No. Who would you remember more? No, it isn't. There's nothing in the description about who you remember more. I know there's nothing in the description. There's stuff in there about contribution to the game. But Drew Pearson played for America's team when they were, you know, when they became. America's team in the 1970s, and the Cowboys were, you know, they were rock stars always.

And Washington's, you know, so Drew Pearson won the Super Bowl, and he was on the team that won it against Denver, and that's it. He won, I think he won one Super Bowl. Clark was on two Super Bowl winning teams. And by the way, on both of the teams that he won the Super Bowl on, he was part of a wide receiver, you know, group, the posse, that was a big, significant reason as to why they won the 87 Super Bowl and the 91 Super Bowl. He was on the team. Now, he lost to the Steelers twice. He was on the team that lost to the Steelers twice.

By the way, in the Super Bowl that they won against Denver, one reception 13 yards. One reception 13 yards. So, look, as a young fan and then as a teenage fan at the end of his career, I do remember Drew Pearson being really good. I mean, you know, Drew Pearson, Cowboys, Tony Dorset, you know, Tony Hill, Billy Joe Dupree, you know, Robert Newhouse. I mean, we knew all of them. And Golden Richards, you know, all of the Cowboys, you know, if you were a Washington football fan

and if you were Dallas football fan, you almost knew the other team's roster as much as you knew your own team's roster. That's how intense everything was. That's how big everything was. I mean, I can pretty much name almost every single Dallas kicker. You know, Ephron Herrera, Raphael Septienne, like all these guys over the years that you just knew you had to worry about. And Drew Pearson was, he was also such a class act. You know, he went to the same high school that Joe Thaisman went to. I think they were high school teammates

or maybe yeah I think they were high school teammates Drew Pearson and Joe Thaisman but anyway we could do this forever and I don't want to want to get to the Super Bowl but I just saw that on Saturday Sunday morning and I'm like God let me just look up Gary Clark then I know I've done this before look at this it's just Clark's numbers dwarf

Pearson's and Clark was really By anybody's, you know, recollection of Gary Clark, any of his contemporaries would tell you, some of them would tell you, man, Art Monk was really good, but Gary Clark was the real threat. I mean, and he was in those years in Washington. And he was a big game performer, which, by the way, B. Mitch was. You know, one of the things about Brian that I think never gets, first of all, I think he deserves more consideration for the Hall of Fame, considering that he is second all-time in all-purpose yardage. But Brian had his biggest moments in the biggest games of his career.

I mean, every single playoff game during his career in Washington, which came after the Doug Williams Super Bowl, I mean, you could look at these playoff games. He had a kickoff return for a touchdown against Tampa Bay in a playoff game and a divisional round game. He had fake punts in games. he had a big rushing yardage and catch yardage game against the 49ers in a playoff game. He really was productive in some of, and I think Gibbs just knew for whatever reason,

B. Mitch was not going to back down from the occasion, you know, and in a lot of, I remember one of the last playoff games, what was the last game Gibbs coached and won was in the 92 January playoffs against Minnesota. They were in the Metrodome, and they beat the Vikings 24-7, and the Vikings were favored. Washington was the defending champ in that game, and Brian Mitchell had over 100 yards rushing, had a fake punt. I think he threw a pass in the game. Then the next time they made the playoffs, when Norv Turner was the coach, they played Tampa Bay in Tampa in the divisional round. he takes a kickoff back to start the second half 100 yards, and they've got, I think, like a 10-0-0-0-0 lead.

You know, and when he was in Philly, think about some of those NFC championship games that Philly lost. B. Mitch had some massive returns in some of those games. You know, he just was a clutch performer. Now, I understand the hesitants to put in returners into the Hall of Fame and, like, Billy Whitechews-Johnson, and Devin has to. Devin Hester was truly unique. And even though B. Mitch is on his second all-time and all-purpose yardage,

Devin Hester was a better returner. He is in my view. But I think that the fact that B-Mitch and Gary Clark in particular, after the obvious guys like Jacoby, haven't gotten as much consideration is just not right. It's not right. Especially when you start putting in cowboys that were borderline Hall of Famers and really numbers-wise hard to make the case for.

And Drew Pearson. Yeah. I don't know what to tell you, buddy. It is the deal. It is the deal. Let's get to the Super Bowl talk. We do this every year. I know.

Let's do the Super Bowl recap right after this word from one of our sponsors. Here comes Mahomes. Trying to find the end zone. And now, how about that? One last indignity. Intercepted by White. That defense, tremendous tonight. That was at the very end of the game, Devin White's interception in the end zone,

capping off a dominant performance. I'm going to give you just my overarching theme, and then I'm going to let you have at it, all right, and then I'll come back with more details. But from my standpoint, Cooley, this was a one-sided domination by Tampa Bay. They were the better team throughout every phase of the game. They were more physical than Kansas City was. They were actually a faster, more athletic team that Kansas City was. They were better coached throughout the game.

They dominated both lines of scrimmage, which we talked about on Friday. Todd Bowles' defense kicked the living shit out of the Chief's offense. This was a beatdown. And while a lot of people, and I think justifiably so, understood that the Chiefs made a lot of mistakes, self-inflicted mistakes that didn't help their cause, And the officiating was too closely called, and the chiefs got the bad side of the whistle or the flags for much of the night. None of that matters because the Buccaneers were superior across the board. And I was, you know how much I've loved Todd Bowles over the years.

I really thought that somebody defensively should have shared the MVP, award with Brady. And if you were going to pick somebody, it was probably Devin White because he led the team in tackles and he had the interception. But you could have easily made the case for Barrett or JPP or Sue. I mean, there's so many great defense. I mean, it's most valuable players so Todd Bowles couldn't get half of the award.

But I just thought that this was an impressive performance by Tampa. something that we talked about and we thought was possible on Friday. And even though it was a boring game, because I had Tampa, I had the under, I had the first half Buccaneers, I had the first half under. I needed a big smell test weekend. I got it. Ended up positive for the year. What a comeback through December and January to finish two games above 500 for the season.

but I was thoroughly impressed with the performance by the Buccaneers, not to mention that they carved up Kansas City after the first two drives of the game. They were awesome. They were better, most importantly, I think, have on both sides of the line of scrimmage. They just, they owned it up front. And it hurt Kansas City to have both their tackles out of the game. It hurt them big time. Yep.

because they can exploit defenses quick, but you can't exploit defenses quick all day. And they needed some of those past plays to develop down the field. And they didn't get that opportunity to develop some of those past plays. And so all of the sudden, they were handcuffed to three seconds, and the ball essentially had to be out, or Mahomes was going to have to make some playoff script.

He actually made a couple incredible throws off script. that weren't caught. Incredible. Incredible. You're like, wait a minute. Did that just hit the dude in the face mask? Did he just sling that sidearm falling down after running around for a mile and a half and it should have been caught?

It's amazing. Hold on one second. That bow went exactly where he wanted it to go. It really was like a shortstop making a diving, sliding play on a hard hit. grounder turning and just winging it off his side and it hits the first basement like dead in the glove it really was it was incredible some of the throws he made and i've i've read stuff that said this is his his worst game of all time i mean he had some drops that would have made it in an incredible game yeah i still don't think they had a chance to beat tampa um look i i mean some of

the stuff the drive that i thought killed them truly killed them. Was after Kansas City got a stop on fourth down. Yeah, the Kelsey drop. Well, before that, they stopped Ronald Jones short. I know. They didn't run four net there. I don't know.

Why Jones didn't go over the top, I don't know. But they get a critical stop on a fourth down. And then Kelsey has a third and eight drop. Yeah. I mean, anybody that plays Kansas City, sit there and say, we get a couple drops in big situations where we get the ball back and that's how we're going to win games. Right.

And he did. He dropped there, right there, man. but oh and then the other thing is that punter townson is about to win bedwetter of the ward a week he drops the punt that picks it up gets it off there's a penalty and then he shanks the next punt he soiled himself he it was the moment was a little bit too big for him so he ends up with a 29 yard shank

he's got some great hair though that turn of events cost him and then tyrant matthew ends up getting a pick there's a hold called on charverius ward that was ridiculous. Should have never been called. Oh, I thought that was a hold. You could call it, but it wasn't so blatant. You didn't see Jersey tug. It kept him from getting to that spot, though. He was handsy. Yeah. Then you get the lined up in the neutral zone penalty, which I think it was on, I mean, I thought McCartman was lined up in the neutral zone. Two of them were. Yeah, and that's just ridiculous. Yeah, on a field goal. Let's not.

I'm very disciplined. Not very disciplined at all. Next play was the touchdown, right? Then you get it to Grunk. Yeah. Who was not great all year. I know. But great in this game.

Yeah. I mean, he was awesome. He almost had a third. He almost came out of that play in the third quarter. This was so weird to me because Kansas City goes down. down and has the awesome drive to start the third quarter, which was just awesome. I said Kansas. Tampa goes down and scores to start the third quarter. You're like, this, this is done. This game was over. And anytime you watch Kansas City play all year,

there's no deficit too big. This was, this was, there was, they were never in the ballgame. I think that we needed this game because there was, it was never a ball game. Now, if you're sitting there as Bruce Ariens or anyone on the Tampa side, like, this is how you wanted to go. You take control, you hold control, you own the game, the entire game. They had to, this had to be so much fun for them. But they did a really good job. Tampa did. And they owned the game.

It wasn't an exciting game to watch by any means, but it was a stellar defensive performance by Tampa. I mean, across the board, like Adama Katsu, constant interior pressure. Off the edge, Pierre Paul and Barrett were demonstrative. They, they, they, my homes didn't have time to do anything. I thought they did a great job on Kelsey, although he ends up with 10 catches for 133 yards. And Tony did a good job of pointing out. You didn't give him room to cross you up.

You didn't give him room to set some of the things. You just got up and got in his face and pressed him and said, I'm going to take my shot right here. And guys like David and White for sure are so fast that even if he separates a little bit, they can run to tackle him for five or six if they give it up. So they disrupted Kelsey. They were good enough on Hill that without having that real chance to push the ball down the field, they never let him be a number one winner.

You always made Mahomes go away from him. And Kansas City didn't have the answers, Kev. They just didn't have the answers on offense. We felt like Tampa's defense would do this. I just didn't know if they would be able to get the pressure, but as soon as you know, both tackles aren't going to play in this game, That was a bad spot for Casey's offense. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's funny.

I think the one, I thought it was not a great broadcast, but then again it was a shitty game that they had to call Nance and Romo. But I thought Romo's point early on where he had this sense that this was not the same kind of game where Kansas City is all the sudden going to get, you know, unleashed. And offensively, you know, like there's, this. There is a point in which there's going to be a lead that's going to be too much for them to overcome because he got the sense. And I think anybody that was watching this, unless you knew what Kansas City's history was, you know, watching them, it really did appear as if it was really uncomfortable for them. And it was.

They were getting absolutely dominated up front, dominated. And I think that, you know, that's where Romo picked up on the fact of, this is a little bit. bit different. They better be careful because this is going to be over, you know, and it was the pressure. It was the total pressure, even though, as you said, Mahomes would make a couple of amazing plays. I'm looking for the stat I had, but basically it was something like he ran 497 yards in the game on all passes and sacks, the most by any quarterback, all season long, which is just amazing. Here it is. Patrick Mahomes ran a total of 497 yards before his passes in sacks per NFL next gen stats. That's the most pre-throw pre-sac yards run by any

quarterback in any game this season. So a couple of things. And I'm going to start with sort of the chief's standpoint. The penalties and the drops and the punter really did hurt their chances, but I want to be clear on this. Even if the calls had been half of what they were, and the drops had been half of what they were, and the punter had only one bad punt instead of two, Tampa still wins this game by double digits, in my view. I just thought they were the superior team. But you had a team that committed 11 penalties, 120 yards in penalties. There were two penalties that were declined so that they were flagged for 13. Ten of them in the first half. I did not like the way the game was refereed, even though I loved it that Kansas City was getting called for this,

because I had a lot riding on Tampa Bay. Kevin Seifert from ESPN put out a tweet that I read late last night that I totally agreed with. He said, look, you could argue that most of these flags against the Chiefs meet the standard for a penalty. But if you watch the NFC championship game, the Green Bay Tampa game. Remember when there were no penalties called? You probably have whiplash, two very different standards in a matter of weeks. By the way, this particular lead referee, Carl Chaffers, apparently has called in two games against the Chiefs this year, double-digit penalties against the Chiefs. I did not know that going in, and I usually look at sort of the referee trends. But the bottom line is, like, most of the

calls, and I'm going to give you the ones that I didn't think were right, I didn't think we're, you know, egregiously wrong. I thought they missed a couple on Tampa defensively, especially that when JPP smacked Mahomes in the head. In the head? I was very surprised. Like, we see enough football to know that that's typically going to get called and it didn't. But I thought that the, I thought that the PI on Honeybadger in the end zone against Evans before the end of the half was a terrible call.

I didn't. totally thought it was a terrible call. He was eight yards downfield. Yeah, but the ball was uncatchable. And it was intended to be uncatchable because he was about to take a sack. They had no timeouts left, and he was just chucking it through the back of the end zone. It's so hard to tell you what's catchable and not catchable when you completely stop the momentum. Look at that one from the end zone view.

I've already looked at it from the end zone view on the all 22. It's thrown nowhere near Evans. It is Brady under pressure understanding he's got no timeouts. And if he doesn't unload this out of the end zone and he takes some sort of sack, they're not going to get a field goal. That was to me the worst. I did not think the call against Breeland was a bad call. Breelan may have stumbled and not intended to interfere,

but his left hand catches Evans on the back left foot. He intended it. It causes him to fall down and Evans had him beat. So how people think that. that wasn't a penalty, I don't know. The holding on the first punt before the second shank was a takedown. The Chris Jones 15-yard penalty was absolutely a 15-yard penalty. The off-sides on the field goal, you had two players that were off-sides on that, that lined up off-sides. Sure. So, anyway, look, it was, if they had let them play, you may have had half the calls,

but it wasn't going to make the difference in the game. You mentioned that the punter not only had a 27-yard punt and a 29-yard punt and dropped one of the snaps. He did get that punt off. I don't know if you noticed this, but before the Butker second field goal, already old Tommy Townsend was feeling it. I mean, he probably had to go in to the locker room after that second punt and change his drawers, as Kevin Harlan called him.

At 14 to 3, they're lining. up for a field goal. And, you know, it's the holders, isn't it the holder's responsibility to mark off the seven yards as to where you're going to put the ball down? Yeah. He's like two yards behind where it's supposed to be marked. And Butker says to him, no, no, no, we're up closer. And then Towns is like, oh, yeah, you're right. Poor Townsend, man. I mean, he had a rough, rough game. By the way, I told you, I would tell you about one of my prop bets. So they had three to one odds on on each punter punting into the end zone for a touchback. So I took both punters three to one.

I won't tell you how much I put on it. And old Tommy Townsend's first punt went right into the end zone. 51 yards, touchback, three to one winner. And so it didn't even matter if Pinyon did the same thing, which he didn't. He didn't have a – all I needed was one of them to have a touchback to win the wager. Anyway, that was one of the prop bets. I did have – I bet the odds were that good.

because I'll bet you part of it was you didn't think few punts. There's going to be very many punts in the game. Exactly. No doubt about it. And don't even ask me why I decided to do that. But you know that I thought it was an under game. So I thought there might be more punts than usual. And, you know, I'm hoping that they drive it to midfield and the guy just tries to get inside the five and it just hits and goes in.

Well, this one was a 51-yard punt ultimately that they didn't. decide to return and it took a nice little, you know, K-Scian 3-1 bounce into the end zone. The drops were really hurtful. First of all, on the first third and 11, before the first field goal of the game, Tyreek Hill needs to catch that ball from Mahomes. Mahomes pressured as he was all night long, makes a throw, and that hits off Hill's face mask. Sure. The Kelsey drop, I totally agree with you.

It's seven to three. They've gotten the fourth down stop. I'll get to that in a moment. You've got to catch that. And then Williams had one on one of those crazy fourth down plays in the fourth quarter where Mahomes was running around and slinged it in there, and Williams should have caught it. The end of the half situation for KC, I don't understand the massive criticism here. You know, it's 14 to 6 after a field goal, and Tampa's got one time out left, and Leonard Fournette, on a first down play, get zero yards with 50 seconds to go.

Are you really suggesting those of you that were super critical and a lot of the analysts were? Are you really suggesting that Andy Reid shouldn't call time out there with he's got three of them left? I mean, seriously? Why? Because of what happened at the end of the half against Green Bay? It was a totally different situation. So that was an absolute timeout situation. If he didn't call it, I would have been shocked and I would have been critical of him.

And Tampa Bay probably would have taken the 14 to 6 lead into the locker room. hindsight is 50-50, as Steve Spruyer said. But in the moment, Kansas City is thinking, we can get it back, we can get another field goal, then we get the ball to start the second half. They only have one time out, so they're not really trying to score. And then they threw the bubble the Godwin that got eight yards. And then it's third and two. And if you want to be critical, the balls at the 37-yard line,

you can criticize them calling the time out before the third and two. Now, the funny thing is, Tampa was going quick anyway. after the eight-yard play, they decided at the 37-yard line, we're going for it. So even if Kansas City didn't call the time out, Tampa's lining it up to try to be aggressive. They got the first down to grunk, and then, you know, it started from there and ended poorly for Kansas City, and it was 21-6 at the half. I did not have an issue at all with Andy Reed trying to be aggressive there. I just didn't. I thought Kansas City, and I made this note during the game,

and then somebody sent me this tweet during the show this morning, I really thought that there was so much pressure on Mahomes from that front four. They did not blitz a lot. I just thought, where is, like, more protection from Andy Reed? Like, how aren't she? They don't do that. They haven't done it all year. Okay, well, he's never been pressured like this.

I understand that. And with have with and the offensive line issues, coolly. With the offensive line issues, gosh, first and second down situations, Kansas City's been such a good screen team. That's a, BNemi is a play caller for them. You have to answer that and say they're going to go four and drops seven big time and they're going to drop them. You got to screen them.

You have to be able to screen them. You have to be able to chip those guys. You have to be able to change their spot. You need to roll Mahomes, get them outside of the pocket. You need some more run action stuff. They didn't answer it. They just put it all on Mahomes. They put it all on Mahomes.

And it just was too much pressure. And I kept thinking, I'm like, these four guys, like, they're rushing four. Now, there was that before the third down before the first field goal. There were two corner blitzes on that play. I don't know if I've ever seen two corners coming. Double corner cat? Is that what it's called? Yeah.

But I just... Any defensive guy or anyone would call it that. But I made the note during the game, it's like, they got to keep something. They got to go max protect here or something. By the way... Don't do that. They're a five-man protection team. They did.

And so the tweet that somebody sent me or the note that somebody sent me, KC used five-man protection on 92% of Mahomes' dropbacks. they do. 48 to 52 with those backup tackles, left-and-right tackle. The other thing, too, they did try some screens. It seemed like Tampa had everything sniffed out. Screens, they had that option pitch sniffed out. They just had everything. Everything sniffed out. A couple of other things about the Chiefs. Obviously, Tampa's defense had them completely out of sync, and the pressure was relentless. I thought the first drive of the third quarter when they got Edwards-Alaire going because I was expecting, by the way, at 21-6, oh, at the end of the first half, Cooley, when they did

score that touchdown and Matthew got the 15-yard penalty for, you know, taunting Brady, which, by the way, I thought it should have been offsetting penalties. I thought Brady deserved one too. You know, the over-under in the first half was 27 and a half, so it was 20 to 6 at that point. And what worried me is that with the 15-yard penalty and only six seconds left, why they would take it on the kickoff, it didn't matter. They might move the ball halfway the distance and go for two, which could have sent it over, but they didn't. But I thought the first drive of the third quarter,

Edwards-Zalier, first play, 26-yard run. By the way, Devin White's speed on that track him down and catch him. Oh, my God. And then Edwards-Lare had a 10-yard run. And then on second seven at the Tampa 34, two throws, pressure, incompletes, 52-yard field goal. I actually thought at that point, Kansas City's best shot, was to take Edwards Allaire, who's really a good back and healthy,

and try to grind out some long drives running the football and get yourself back into the game that way. And they didn't really do it. You know, ultimately, you know, even if you take Mahomes' yards, Edwards was nine for 64. You know, I... He had the big one. He had the big one.

He hit the 26th charter. He had some good runs. Even early in the game, he had a couple good runs. Had a good run, strong run for first down early in the game. Yeah. Anyway, I thought that, you know, from Kansas City standpoint, from Tampa standpoint, look, defensively, they were just awesome. I mean, they had Kansas City in a situation that as football fans, having watched the Chiefs

for the last three years, it's like it was really totally unique. but Todd Bowles, I really had this sense that second time playing them, the two tackles out were going to be a problem, and they are athletic and fast, man. Oh, my God. Their front seven is so quick. And then Tampa's offense, after those, like I was sitting there dying that they didn't move the ball on those first two drives thinking, oh, shit. You actually forced Kansas City to punt on their first drive and you haven't taken advantage of either of these first two drives. But after the first two drives, Six drives, 42 plays, 338 yards, four touchdowns, a field goal, and then the goal line stand that they got stopped at the KC1, which I would just mention, I thought Ronald, first of all, I thought they got a little too cute with the tackle eligible, and then putting Vita Vaya back there.

And Ronald Jones should not have been the back in the game. It should have been playoff Lennie. And Ronald Jones, coolly on the fourth and goal, you got to stick, you got to, you got to, you got to, That's where you expose the ball on fourth and goal. You've got to score. And I thought there was enough room for him and enough push for him to extend that over the goal line. He kept it tucked in his right hand almost back behind him.

I hear you. You got to get that in. I can't believe he didn't get that in. It looked like when they went to review it without me really watching it close, I'm thinking he scored. Because you're right, he had the push. He had the push. He just didn't extend the ball, which was stupid. We talked about in the Cleveland playoff game against Kansas City

when they threw the ball down to whoever it was now. Richard Higgins, I think it was, at the one-yard line to set up first and goal at the one, and he tried to extend the ball out and he exposed it, and he got hit illegally, but it doesn't matter. He fumbled it out of the end zone. You don't do it then. You do it on fourth and goal.

On fourth and goal, that's when you do it, and they didn't do it. A couple of other observations here that I just wanted to mention. First of all, Tampa ran the football. They had their way with Kansas City defensively. You know, playoff Lenny ended up with, you know, 89 yards rushing 46 passing. They combined, he and Jones did, for 28 carries, 150 yards on the ground, you know, so they were able to run the football. Grunk had the best game he's had in a while. So I played Granc Cooley, 100 to 1 to win the MVP. Oh, really? Uh-huh.

Yep, 50 bucks would have paid $5,000. And so I played 4-net. Do you think Grunk was the MVP? No, I think Brady was. I actually thought it should have been Brady and a defensive player. If they really were going to give to try to give Todd Bowles some credit, which he deserved the most credit for the win in my view. But you can't give it to a coach.

Before the game, I had Grunkelski, I had Fournette. I also had Godwin because I thought as a slot receiver he might have a big day. And then defensively, I had White David JPP. So I just took a bunch of... What JPP over Barrett, huh? Oh, I had Barrett too. So I played all of these guys thinking that if Brady, you know, has a couple of the picks like he did, but it's the game that I think I'm going to see, which is going to be a great defensive effort from Tampa Bay.

and maybe a good running game from Tampa Bay. All these guys were getting super long odds. But the fact that Grunk had two touchdowns, I was like, holy shit. Early. I'm like, I wanted one more for Grunk and maybe three or four more catches, and we may have gotten him there. If he puts that tackle in the third quarter down the middle of the play action,

that Brady just tripped up. Brady fooled Matthew. Yeah. Maybe. Right. But even at that, are they going to take it from Tom? No, because he was 21 of 29 for 201 yards, three touchdowns, and made every right decision, didn't have one. You know what the – there was one bad throw.

One bad throw of his. I thought it was the first possession of the game on the third and seven when he threw it too far outside of Godwin. And Godwin had to try to reach out with one hand and make the catch. He was open to move the chains and Brady missed him. Right. I don't know that he had another bad throw in the game, did he? Maybe. Not much.

He took advantage. He had a lot of throws underneath. He made the throws he had to make, buddy. A couple of other quick things. Number one, I mean, when are you ever going to see Mahomes? One first, first seven for two yards and in the first quarter, two for eight, nine yards. That's crazy. Almost never.

Number two, the first possession of the game for Kansas City. And you saw the pressure immediately right from the get-go on Mahomes. And it was Barrett, you know, pressuring him. I need to go back and look at that and I haven't. That was grounding. To me, it was like the third and eight, and Mahomes ended up dumping it, and I could have sworn, I think that was it,

maybe it wasn't the third and eight, maybe it was a second and eight play. But it really looked like grounding. He was definitely in the pocket. You know the play on the punt that was touched, but left on the ground and picked up by the Kansas City returner and run back? I was actually wondering, why they had ruled it dead. They came out and it was out of bounds for those that missed it. Exactly.

At the end of the game, Cooley, you know, Tampa, it was interesting. Tampa had, you know, they had a comfortable lead. But, you know, even with eight minutes to go, by the way, Romo was struggling with math all day long on the broadcast. Was he joking with that? Or was he serious about that? No, I think he was serious. I struggle with nine. And like, okay? Yeah. You know, they start running the football, and they're running the football well. And they've got a third and one with eight minutes to go at the Kansas City 46,

and he tries to throw it to Gruncowski, and it's incomplete. I don't know why they threw there. Then on their final offensive drive before the three knees, this was very interesting to me. I don't know if you picked up on it. So it's 31-9, the game's over, basically. Kansas City takes their final time out with 3.46 to go before a third down and four. Tampa's deep in their own territory after, you know, the Winfield Jr. penalty for taunting Turi Kill. And the call is in and you see Brady go, no, no!

Yeah. And then they come back with another play. So the play that was coming in was going to be the smart play, which was a run. If you don't get it, 40-something seconds, They don't get the ball back until under three. They got to score three times. It's over. And instead, Brady wants to throw for the first down,

and he takes the deep shot to Antonio Brown. And it's incomplete, and they punted it. I just thought it was interesting to watch Brady absolutely get his way, which has been part of why they've been on this run. Because credit to Bruce Ariens who said, you know what, this is Tom's offense, Tom's team, and he's going to call it. But the smart thing at that point is just run the football,

get the game over with. You don't need to take a shot for Antonio Brown, and that's in that spot. They wanted to embarrass Kansas City. I guess. Ariens had told them we want to score 40. Yeah, and then I thought on Kansas City's last drive, I don't know, CBS, I thought, did a bad job with a lot of the replays.

Like the fourth and goal at the one, did we ever see every angle that you typically see? We didn't, but I think you saw one angle and said he didn't get in. I agree with you. I do agree with you on that. But usually you get obsessive, you know, obsessive numbers of replays. Well, I know this is late in the game and the game's over. But there's a ball that goes out to Edwards-Alaire that flips up into the air and is picked off by Levante David.

And I went back and watched that play. I'm pretty sure the ball never hit the ground. It got, it was, Edward Salare's hand was underneath it, and they called it an incomplete pass. And, you know, Arians didn't challenge it. You know, it's 31 to 9, whatever at that point. But CBS never showed your replay either. I just thought that CBS got caught into, first of all, this is amazing, the Kansas City is getting their ass kicked. And B, this is a terrible, boring game.

We're not having the drama that we thought we were going to have. And I didn't think it was a great broad. I thought the most astute observation, and sometimes these are the hardest to make, but I think Romo's instincts early on that Kansas City was in trouble, you know, proved to be spot on, accurate. And when I was watching the game, I felt the same way, even though in the back of my mind, like everybody's thinking, oh, yeah, but this is Mahomes. This is, you know, Hill and Kelsey and the Chiefs. But it was different. He was, first of all, he did not look 100% healthy.

He's having surgery on that toe at the end of the season. And the pressure was just every single play. Every play. And I think that's what Tony understood was he is in trouble because he's never going to have time to get the ball out. Yeah. I'm also sure that part of those instincts were probably a product of sitting down and talking to B&M, Mahomes,

Reed, all those guys before the game, and them saying, we're going to have some problems here. Walking this up. But gosh, I mean, make the adjustment. Yeah, do you think Andy Reid with what happened with his son and this five-year-old God pray for this five-year-old? Do you think he may have just been a little bit out of it? Yes.

I do, too. I hate seeing that, and I'm with you. I hate seeing that before a huge game. I mean, you hate seeing it. Yeah, in general, it's such a tragedy potentially. No, in general, but for it, yeah, no, I, obviously, it just changes how you, I don't know. I mean, it certainly couldn't have made, I mean, he addressed it after the game, you know, and, you know, specifically said, mentioned the five-year-old girl who's in critical condition.

And for those of you that don't know the story, Britt Reed, Andy Reid's son, who's also the chief's outside linebackers coach, was involved in a three-car crash Thursday night in Kansas City. He was not a part of the team yesterday, did not travel. He acknowledged to the police that he was driving the vehicle that ended up colliding with two other cars that left this five-year-old in critical condition.

His eyes were bloodshot. There was a moderate odor of alcohol beverage according to the police or according to the reports. He said, Reed told the officer that he had two to three drinks and that he was also taking a prescription for Adderall. And this is just such a tragedy. God please the five-year-old girl, you know, a complete recovery. But this had to be, you know, part of Andy Reid.

It's a tough couple of days for Andy Reid. Man. There was one other thing. thing about this game. You like the halftime show? So I was just half paying attention to it. So I'm not going to, I'm not going to be the worst, the best critique of the weekend. Did the weekend perform at an NBA All-Star game recently that I thought he was excellent at?

But did you or not? I didn't like it at all. Okay. I'd heard that he put an extra $7 million of his own money into putting the halftime show together. So he had the crazy stage and all the stuff. And I just, I didn't think it sounded good. It's almost like his mic needed turned up or something needed to be changed on it.

I did think that the combination of Eric Church, the country star, and Jasmine Sullivan, I thought that actually sounded really good. Oh, I love Eric Church. Yeah. I like the weekend, too. I just didn't think it sounded like the weekend. And then her, you know, saying before the game as well, that was, that was spectacular. I mean, I'm not super familiar with her.

I'm not going to lie to you. And I was not super familiar with Jasmine Sullivan either. I know of Eric Church, even though I'm not a country guy. But I thought that combination actually sounded beautiful, even though. There were a couple of moments that seemed that they were just a tad off, but I thought it was actually a nice combination. Anyway, whatever. Oh, this is what I was going to end with.

29 quarterback pressures on Patrick Mahomes, the most in Super Bowl history. I mean, you think about, well, part of that is some of the greatest defensive teams when you go back like the Steelers and the Raiders and some of those teams, even some of the cowboy teams, teams just didn't throw it enough. to have that many pressures. But 29 of the 52 dropbacks he was pressured on. For him, first time in his career, he's lost a game by double digits. That's a while.

The nine points, the fewest by far, in his career. You know, I hope nobody's going to come out of this and think, like, yeah, Pat Mahomes. Yeah, great defense, pass rush. Yeah, he still almost pulled out two or three rabbits out of the hat, even with that pressure. Yeah, no one should come out of this game thinking that there's a certain formula that Tampa Bay just put together. They just executed incredibly well, in part because they're exceptional on defense. Exceptional. Let's not play for a second, but now there's an answer to Mahomes and Tariq Hill and Kelsey.

Right. That didn't just provide an answer. Everybody tries to do what Tampa did. It was really, I don't know, it was really, Todd Bowles is one of those people that's been in the league, obviously, for a long, long time and had the head coaching opportunity in New York. And you and I were doing the show for some of it, and I was always like, I think he's a good coach, Cooley.

I think he's such a good defensive coach. they suck on offense. They don't have a quarterback. You know, I would, and I said this many times with you or by myself, I would have hired Todd Bowles in a heartbeat to be the head coach here if it meant that I had his defensive abilities. Like his teams, just when you think about his defensive teams in the past, they've always seemed to be ahead, one step ahead of the competition. Some of those jet teams were really good defensively.

They were really good on defense. In Arizona, when he was outstanding and he's innovative. Innovative. You know, part of it, too, is that he's a former skin and won the Super Bowl here. And, you know, as part of that, some of those real memorable teams. I really want him to get another shot. I want him to get a shot where he's got a really good offensive coordinator and maybe a quarterback that would help. Because obviously on a team with Tom Brady at quarterback and with a bunch of weapons,

And, you know, let's face it, they've got talent, too. I mean, they have real talent on defense in that front seven. And in the secondary, Winfield Jr. is outstanding. He's so good. But I was happy for him. I think, you know, at one point, it was so funny, a friend of mine, Kenny, he texted me, he goes, given how great your boy Bowles is doing, don't you think they should have one close-up of him? They've held Patrick Mahomes to six points.

You know, it was like two minutes later they showed him. but for a while they hadn't shown him at all. Yeah, there aren't any head coaching. Look, Ariens said he's coming back. Obviously, he's going to come back with him. Brady said he's coming back. He's coming back with that staff. It could be Bulls in Tampa in two years.

Exactly. Exactly. You know, give Byron Leftwich a lot of credit too. I mean, you know, Ariens apparently is delegated a shitload of responsibility. So Leftwich and Brady, you know, combined to figure it out. They beat teams in a number of different ways. You know, they ran the football. They were, they seemed to figure it out.

They threw the ball deep a lot, you know, in different games. Incredible run from them, you know, at the end of the year and into the postseason, winning their final eight games. And it's funny, their final four games of the regular season. And I said this before they played Washington were, they were wins, but they weren't impressive wins. like they beat some terrible defensive teams. They were behind in multiple games.

And that's why coming into the game against Washington, you know, obviously Washington had the quarterback problem, which was, you know, a big issue. We didn't know what to expect from Taylor Heineke. And I'll use that as a segue just to get into this. Look, if you really are like super optimistic because Tampa won the Super Bowl and Washington played them really well and Taylor Heineke had a great game.

And somehow this is like, a big win for you. I understand I'm optimistic, you know, about the future more than I've been in a long time, but it's not because they were close against Tampa. It's because they've got some talent, they've got some coaching, you know, they've got some young talent. You know, they have an opportunity to add a couple of pieces and improve their team. But if Todd Bowles knew anything about Taylor Heineke and had the chance to game plan for him, and if Devin White had played in that game, which he didn't, the results offensively would have been different. And the more startling takeaway from that playoff game against Tampa is not what Taylor Heineke did.

And he was great. And it makes me interested in what maybe he could be. But the biggest takeaway is that they got absolutely embarrassed defensively. They gave it 507 yards to Tampa Bay in that playoff game. And we're embarrassed. So that's part of the reason you're optimistic moving forward. And you realize after watching a real elite defense, fence like Tampa's in the Super Bowl, you realize, hey, we got a long way to go, but, you know,

it's progress. This year was significant progress, but it was seven and nine. Like, nobody was convincing me, oh, we lost to the giant. You were on two of these teams. Team that lost a beat Green Bay, a beat Green Bay, Green Bay went on to win the Super Bowl. You guys beat the Giants. You were the last team to beat the Giants before they made their run to a Super Bowl. Like, I was always like, okay, who cares?

we were six and ten or seven and nine or whatever it was. The other thing is you think of matchup stuff. I mean, Tampa Bay really matched up well for Kansas City. And when I think of Washington, especially this year, they could have lost any game. Yeah.

They were a team that had the ability to stay in games, especially when defense played really well. Well, they couldn't have lost that Thanksgiving Day game. No, but in general, other They could have lost to anybody. Right. I would not have been surprised if they would have lost any one of the games they won

besides the Dallas game. Right. And as the season went on and Dalton came back, they probably could have lost to Dallas too. Yeah, I mean, Dallas started to play better towards the end of the year. But, you know, this is not to say that I don't want the team to feel encouraged that Tampa went on to win the Super Bowl

and that they played them really tough. I want them to take something away from that. But we as fans, it's like I didn't even think, honestly, Cooley, I didn't even think about. I didn't think about it either. At all. And I was delused with tweets, hey, what do you think of Heineke now? Nobody played better. It was Rogers, Breeze, and Mahomes.

They couldn't do anything against the Buccaneers, and Heineers lit them up. Yeah, I don't know. Put Devin White in the game and give Todd Bowles a chance to prepare for a quarterback he knows something about. I have a feeling it would have been a different result. No doubt about it. But, you know, I just didn't think about like seven and nine, the best part of this year was you saw massive improvement defensively. You saw Terry McLaurin become a legitimate number one receiver. Antonio Gibson, lots of hope for him. They were much better coach than they've been.

in a long, long time. And there's a culture change going on that I'm totally in favor of. And I'm glass half full here right now. But it's not because they played the Buccaneers tough. Because if you also want to go that route after, you know, you take out the Devin White and the Todd Bowles not being able to prepare for a quarterback, they had multiple chances towards the end of that game down one score and didn't get it done. They punted when they were down at, you know, 18, 16, or 20.

21-16, down 28-23, they didn't get it done. 31-23, they didn't get it done. So I, you know, it was a great season in that you took a big step forward. And I'm excited about that. I'm also very interested in the quarterback news that came out over the weekend. So we will get to that right after I tell you about my bookie.ag. They can even though football season is over to give you a 50% credit on deposits up to $1,000 if you use my promo code, Kevin D.C. Now, I'm a big college basketball guy. I wager on college basketball, not the NBA in the regular season, not hockey in the regular season. I am not that guy at all. God bless the people that bet, you know, the NHL in January and February. Have at it. That's not me. But there is a game tonight, Cooley.

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Smith, comeback player of the year. Congratulations to Chase Young, defensive rookie of the year. There was one person, coolly out of the 50, that voted for Ben Rothesberger for comeback player of the year instead of Alex Smith. Crazy. But anyway, there was a report yesterday before the Super Bowl, Mike Garofalo, Tom Pelosi, and Ian Rappaport on NFL.com. And it was about the quarterback carousel.

By the way, you and I, people from the Friday podcast said, you guys didn't do your fantasy or reality on Carson Wentz or Marcus Marriota. Carson Wentz would be fantasy to me because they're not going to trade him in the division, and he may not be a good culture fit for Ron Rivera. Marcus Marriota is under contract. You'd have to trade for him. I would say that's doable, but not as a starter. He would come in and compete with others that they have here.

What would you say about both of those? We did not address those two quarterbacks on our Friday podcast. I don't know how much of a fantasy Carson Wentz is. I know that you're saying they don't want to trade them in the division, but who's going to give them the most value for Carson Wentz, I think is another huge question. Indy. Yeah, Indy would probably have... Chicago.

But if Washington's going to give you more value? Do you think, you know, I think that they're going to be really careful with people who, you know, recent reports are they're not very easy to coach. Yeah, I would agree with that. What about Marriota? Not trading for Marriota. Yeah. He's got one year left on his deal. You don't know exactly what they're doing with him.

I don't know. I mean, would you give up a second for Mariotta? No. Would they trade it? They're not going to trade him for less than the second. I don't think they're going to trade him at all. I think Oakland's going to play him. I think Vegas is going to end up with Derek Carr and Marcus Marietta next year as their quarterbacks.

I really do. I wouldn't be surprised. And then in that, you have a real quarterback competition. You know, I'm going to get to this story. I'll read it right now, actually. Who will be Washington's QB? Well, the three authors of this story, Garofalo, Pellasero, and Rappaport, right. When Alex Smith decided he needed a few weeks to figure out his future, the Washington football team knew it could not wait.

While the team is open to a return for Smith, it also made calls on Stafford and Gough and Gough before they were traded. Expect them to weigh all QB options, including if Sam Darnold is made available. While plenty of teams have been calling the Jets on Darnold, there's been no indication they would trade him yet. first of all, I did not know anything about Washington's interest in golf. We do know that they offered a first, a third, and maybe even a player. Now, Russell was on with me this morning. He had a source telling that Washington offered Detroit two first rounders, and they turned it down. Ultimately, they got two first rounders, and they got Goff from L.A. and a third.

But I'm a little bit surprised if this report is true that they made calls and they had some interest in Jared Gough, are you? No, I'm not at all. Why? I think that they have, I think it shows you that they're going to have interest in any starting quarterback that's better than what they have, which is the right thing that they should do. I agree with that.

I'm just not, I'm just not a golf fan. I'm also not a golf fan. So. Yeah. That question mark in general. but it's whether or not they had a real interest in Goff I think you're figuring out what it's going to take and what you're going to have to give up for anybody

like how much is Goff how much are we going to have to trade to get Goff is another real question yeah and maybe you just your interest is to see what it's going to take to get a guy like Goff to come so you can sort of compare it to when you seriously go after Darnold as an example. Exactly. So the one thing that the Stafford offer and that this report just tells me it reinforces to me is that they're trying to do better than what they have. You know, Taylor, Heineke, Kyle

Allen, maybe Alex Smith, as they should. A push for Darnold would not surprise me at all. To me, and I mentioned this to you on Friday, I think there are some similarities between Darnold and Stafford. You know, Donald's been hurt more, has missed more games. He's played on a much worse team offensively. I also went back over the weekend, Cooley. If you look at Donald's starts, he's beaten some pretty good. In some of the games against better teams, he's performed really well. Like at the end of this year, they went to L.A. and beat the Rams and he played well. Late in the season as a starter. They beat Cleveland when Cleveland had to have it late in the season. I remember last year,

year. They beat the Cowboys when the Cowboys were on a bit of a role and he came back off the injury list. I'm sorry? It was his first game back. First game back and he played really well and beat them. I remember them beating Pittsburgh at the end of last year when Pittsburgh had to have it in a playoff hunt. He's played some games against good teams in the past. And I don't know, I liked Darnold coming out of USC. I like him more than that. than Carr. I've mentioned that. A lot of you seem to disagree with me on that. I think I would trade 19 overall for Darnold. I don't know if I'd want to give up much more than that. I think we're getting to a point where it's going to be a trade for somebody like Darnold or a trade up in the

draft. I'm talking about if they end up with quarterbacks other than the ones on their roster, or they end up making a move for like a real veteran, somebody like Ryan Fitzpatrick to come in and until they figure out a longer-term answer. But let's not forget, they do like Kyle Allen. Ron Rivera really likes Kyle Allen. He basically brought up without any prodding that he thought the results would have been the same with Kyle Allen as they were with Alex Smith this year. And so you may end up with that as your quarterback group. It might be Allen and Heineke and Montez.

I still can't see Alex. Montez. Well, I mean, just in camp. In camp. When Montez was walking the sideline. Yeah. Before Heineke came back in the game in Tampa. He looked scared.

He looked like towns in the punter. He looked like he wanted nothing to do with going into that ballgame. Not a single thing. Agreed. I would have wanted, if my guy would have been up hopping around ready, here we go, it's my shot, maybe. Just that showed me. Yeah, I don't know if I think Montez is a good fit here.

Right. As a practice squad guy, find someone that really wants to go in. Who would want to go in against that front four, though, and against Bull's defense? Some of the blitzes they were bringing against time. Not very many people would have wanted that. What was the last last thoughts? By the way, I was just reading this one thing that Brady apparently apologized to Taron Matthew. for losing his composure.

To which Matthew said, I've never really seen that side of them. You know, I thought Brady should have been flagged in the same way Matthew was. I thought that that was like, you know, an equal taunting flag, you know, offsetting. But anyway, he apparently texted him and apologized to him.

They had several on-field verbal altercations during the game. I think Matthew's really good. I think Matthew's really good. I think Brady's a super competitor. I had no problem with either of their altercations whatsoever. You know, the one, it looked like Matthew started it. Yeah. It doesn't mean Brady should retaliate the way he did or whatever.

But I liked that from Tom. Matthew said. He's not going to take it from anybody. Yeah. I wouldn't if I was Tom. He said that Brady started the verbal spat and he, called the chief safety something that I won't repeat. Hmm.

I wonder what he called him. I doubt it was anything racial. No, I bet it wasn't racial. Maybe it was a Justin Thomas situation. Maybe it was a homophobic remark. I'm just totally speculating. What? No.

No, but not in, like we've had this conversation before. It's not in the intention of actually calling the guy like that he's gay. It's the competitive, you know, you're, you know, stop acting like a bitch kind of a thing that happens, you know, just so everybody understands this all the time, even in pick-up basketball games and gyms over the weekend. With weekend warriors, which I've been a part of many times.

You know, we've all, anybody that's ever competed in anything at any level, you know that things are said that if they were taken literally, could get people in trouble in this environment. But I just, I'm wondering what Brady said to him. I'd like to find out. It'll come out. Matthew now has a, you know, a selling point for the book that he's going to write when his career is over. Because he's had an interesting career already.

I really like Matthew. Me too. I really think he's a good player. There were a lot of good players on the field yesterday. Who was the best player on the field yesterday? Just in the game, not overall. In yesterday's game, who was the best player? best player in the field. Barrett? I don't know. I mean, okay, offensively, obviously Tom Brady

made every right play. And that's something that he was going to have to do against that defense. I thought Indomac and Sue was dominated in that game. I thought JPP was outstanding in that game. I thought playoff when he did a pretty good job running the football. I'll tell you that. And made some catches that were big in this game. Grunk was huge in this game, but I don't know if he was the best player in the field in this game. Both linebackers for Tampa Bay are awesome. Who'd you think was the best player on the field? I mean, I think I'm just sitting here thinking, like, Devin White flashed so many times,

but I'd have to go back and actually watch the game to know that he did it consistently. But there were plays in which he was just, whoa, there he is again, just like in the two playoff games, the New Orleans game and the Green Bay game. He ended up with a pick, but that's late. He had two tackles for losses, had a couple of really good plays. He just seemed to be everywhere. Did he lead them in tackling? he did. He usually does. Yep, he had 12 total

tackles, eight solo tackles to lead him. I thought David was outstanding, per usual. But man, every single rush with a four-man rush, it looked like JPP was really bearing down, as was Barrett. It was just really a spectacular defensive team to watch. It really was. They missed some tackles, too. There were a couple of tackles that they missed.

But really, really outstanding effort and really an outstanding team. How about the fact that their last three games, I'm sorry, three of the four playoff games, 31 points, 31 against Washington, 31 against the Packers, 31 against the Chiefs, and the Saints game, it was 30. They had 30 against the Saints. Did they miss an extra point in that game? Is that why they had 30, or did they have three field goals? I should remember that.

had three field goals. Three field goals. They beat some good teams. They played good ball down the stretch. It was just some indicative of what a good team does. They get good late. And they were healthy late. I would like to see that game again with Kansas City having both of their tackles.

Agreed. It would have made a difference. Would have made a difference because then Bowles probably sends more pressure. and is more exposed because that is what he likes to do and he didn't do it because he didn't have to. No, he never did.

You were... He got home before, but they knew they were going to get home before. They knew it. All right, you got anything else? I'm good. Me too. Everybody enjoyed the day.

Tommy will be with me tomorrow.