The Kevin Sheehan Show - Commanders: Most Surprised By....
Episode Date: September 21, 2023Kevin and Thom today opened with Kevin discussing some of his superstitious/OCD issues when it comes to watching sports. The boys discussed what they've been most surprised by during the Commanders' 2...-0 start to the season. Eric Bieniemy said something today that they guys reacted to and Thom made his Washington-Buffalo prediction. The RFK site's progress was part of the show today as well. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Yeah, thanks to all of you that reached out to say how much you enjoyed Cooley's film breakdown
and the Cooley Show yesterday.
If you missed it, it's available everywhere.
And it looks like, knock on wood, we have fixed the issue that some of you had had with Apple and Spotify where you were just getting ads.
I knocked on wood because I got an email yesterday, late yesterday, that said they identified the problem and the engineers have fixed it.
We shall see.
We didn't have a problem yesterday.
We didn't have a problem the day before.
So I probably just jinxed it, Tommy.
God, I hate doing that.
I am superstitious.
Are you?
No, I'm not superstitious at all.
I think superstition and maybe.
some form of OCD go together.
I think I've told you this before that, I mean, I knock on wood a lot.
Like I do things like that.
I'm big into like numbers.
Like if I'm watching, let me give you an example.
If I'm, this is definitely obsessive-compulsive.
I don't think I have like a disorder with obsessive, of being obsessive-compulsive.
But I do think I have a bit of an issue.
But like if I'm watching a game in which that game is very important to me, which would mean I'm either really vested in the team because it's a team that I love.
You know, Maryland basketball, Maryland football, the Wizards or Washington's commanders.
Or if I have a sizable wager on the game, like I'll do things with like the volume on the TV.
Like there's certain numbers that are good luck numbers for me.
Oh, my God.
I know I'm nuts.
You have a winning volume level.
I do have a winning volume level.
I do.
And by the way, I have more than just one winning volume level because I have to,
because my winning volume level is really loud.
Like I guess I'm developing some hearing problems.
I mean, when, you know, you do what I've done and what you've done to for a long period of time
and you end up with headphones on your head for much of every day, you're going to develop some
issues.
And you have hearing problems just in general and then it's even worse when you have a cold like you have.
But I end up listening to and just watching TV at higher volume levels.
So my go-to number, I have two go-to numbers that are higher numbers.
68 and 82, which is really high.
Oh, my God. What is there? Is there a jackhammer in your room when you're watching
Steve? I don't know. My son, my one son, Corvin and I, when we're together watching the
games, he loves to hear the crowd. He likes it loud too. Plus, he's a musician. He has
headphones on his ears a lot. Well, we can't do that when there are other people in the room.
So when there are other people in the room, my go-to tends to be an odd number.
Okay, so I've got 68 and 82, but then I have 29 and 31 that seem to work for me,
and occasionally 17 is a good number if we've got people that aren't used to kind of a louder volume in the room.
So yeah, and sometimes I'll be flipping between those numbers in between,
plays. Like, if there's a bad play,
then I might have to get
to a different number.
Oh, my God.
This is,
this is, this is like something
that you would see in a movie.
Like a movie about a degenerate,
you know? If you're in
a bar, have you ever asked a bartender
to put it out of third volume?
No, no, I don't. That's, no, no, I'm not,
you know, this isn't a really
terrible situation.
Okay. I mean, where I
can't be somewhere without,
it being exactly the way I needed to be. I mean, but, you know, what started this conversation
is, I guess superstition and obsessive-compulsive disorder, they kind of go with each other,
don't they? I think they do. I don't know. I'm not a psychiatrist.
Well, since OCD is repeating the act that you've done, and superstition is repeating the act that
he's done, not necessarily right, one right after the other.
I guess I could see the connection.
Yeah.
But I don't have that issue.
You know, it's funny.
I listen to the TV under normal circumstances at about 22.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
But what has it been recently?
45, 49, and my wife can't stand it.
You know, she just can't stand in fact that it's so loud.
Well, when we're in bed at night and the TV's on and she's been watching,
God, I know a lot of you have been watching the suits.
Have we talked about suits?
Are you familiar with suits?
About what?
Suits, the TV series, Netflix.
Do you know what?
You don't know what suits is?
So Suits was this show that was super popular, like, I think, like 10 or 11 years ago.
and for whatever reason
it's now super popular
again my wife is hooked on it
and so when I actually
am in the room at night
I've gotten not hooked on it
but I've enjoyed it
it's the show with Megan Markle
it's the show that Megan Markle
became kind of a star
in and by the way
if I haven't mentioned this already
she's
gorgeous
I mean
in this show, she's a 12.
Like, I know a lot of you because this has become, like,
I don't know why all of a sudden it became popular again.
I can't explain that.
There is some story about a re-release or something,
or maybe it's Megan Markle being a royal and, you know, whatever.
But a lot of people are watching this show right now.
And she really was, and maybe she still is.
I mean, at this point, at this point when she was doing this show, I guess she's probably like 30 years old.
How old is Megan Markle now?
I have no idea.
I'm not a royal person, nor are you, right?
Is Liz?
I barely know who she is.
Yeah.
Well, she's married to Prince Harry.
Okay.
She's 42 years old right now.
Anyway, what I was going to say is I'll get into bed.
My wife's watching suits.
It's been nothing but suits recently over the last month anyway.
And she's watching it, and I can't hear it.
It's on six or seven.
I'm like, give me the remote control.
I can't hear anything.
And she's like, well, you don't turn it up to your normal level.
And I'll turn it up.
I'm like, I can't hear anything.
I mean, unless you're going to put the subtitles up there,
I need it up to at least 15 or 16.
and then when I start to put it up, she's like, oh, it's way too loud.
Turn it, turn it down.
It becomes like the air conditioning argument, the loudness of the TV argument between men and women, I think.
Yeah, although, actually, she's not a big turn-the-heat-up person.
I mean, I would sleep year-round with the windows open even during the winter.
Like the last week or so, when the weather turned more fallish, and we've had,
you know, nights in the low to mid-50s.
I've had my windows open.
I love sleeping with, like, the windows open and fresh air.
To me, it's a much better sleep than air conditioning.
And, yes, I cannot sleep when the heat gets jacked up in the winter.
Can't sleep.
It's...
Now, have you...
You know, we haven't had a TV in our bedroom since we moved out of our big house.
Oh, really?
Well, we use tablets, use phones and the headphones, you know?
Right.
But when we had a big TV in our bedroom, I used to have Bluetooth headphones that connected to the TV.
Right.
So my wife couldn't hear it when I was watching TV.
Right.
Maybe you should get headphones.
You know what?
We did have that situation a few years back.
But, you know, the truth is, is that I don't watch a lot of television in bed at night.
She does, I'm usually downstairs and I'm watching TV downstairs.
And then when I come up, I'm actually ready to go to sleep.
And, you know, until recently, my schedule was such that I couldn't sit there with the TV on until 1 a.m.
And then try to get up, you know, a few hours later.
Schedule's different now, but I'm still caught up into the getting up early.
At least I don't have to get out of bed at 4.30 in the morning, and I'm not getting up at 4.30,
but I get up at 5, 5.15, which is still early.
But so I don't really, I don't, there was a time where I was always, the TV was always on,
and many times I would fall asleep with the TV on now.
I don't like falling asleep with the TV on now.
I like it off.
we have a noise maker too i like turning the noise maker on
because you think you cursed the podcast by saying it's fixed
yes yeah and i had to knock on wood hear that that's what i was doing
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There are a couple of...
So this one I'm going to read from Steve.
Steve writes, because it kind of relates to the upcoming game this weekend.
Not a Washington fan anymore, but I'm still a Kevin Sheehan fan.
Well, that's very nice.
Born and raised Washington fan, passion started to wane post Gibbs 2.0.
and even more so after I moved away from Virginia.
I kept up with the home team by listening to Kevin and Cooley
and impressed friends with what I learned from Cooley's film breakdowns
before anyone else was doing it, by the way.
Yes, he was the pioneer of the film breakdown.
And again, yesterday's show, because he was really ready for it.
Some of you know last year, I was kind of forcing him to just come on
and do a quick, you know, a quick run through like the end.
actual TV copy. He did three and a half to four hours of prep work on the All-22, and it was
great yesterday. So if you missed it, it's totally worth the listen. Anyway, Steve continues. I've
since joined Bill's Mafia and mostly hate-watched Washington the last five or so years,
which, by the way, you know, Tommy, I'll just interject. A lot of people did that. I know that. I remember,
I think even the two of us when we were doing a radio show together did this segment at one point.
Are you rooting against them now?
There were a lot of people before Dan sold the team a few months ago that were rooting against Washington.
Steve continues, but I've kept on...
Because they thought in some way, if things got so bad that he would be gone.
Yes.
Steve continues.
I've kept on listening.
Kevin sniffs out
Smelly lines like a shark
He's got famous friends
I don't know about that
Tommy's his fit
Well I guess Scott and you
Are the famous friends that I have
That would be my two famous friends are Scott
And Tommy
Well Coley's famous
Tony's
Tony's actually
What famous than I am
Tony's the most famous
Out of everybody
Maybe I don't know
I guess maybe Scott is
Most of these people were
either friends of mine before they became famous, or I just worked with him, which is how I got to know them.
Anyway, he manages a wide range of topics without getting political.
I'm happy for Skins fans and their team's 2-0 start, but my alliances are fully with Buffalo now,
prediction 3117 bills.
And then he suggests Lorenzo Alexander as a guest.
That's a good call, by the way.
He played here and in Buffalo.
but Western New York loves him, as in Lorenzo Alexander.
Anyway, I'll keep on listening because even though Washington snuffed the fandom out of me,
this show's never let me down.
Thank you, Steve.
Let me just, I could never, ever.
Steve, this is not knocking you, okay, because I know others have gone down this path.
But even at my most dispassionate, I could have never become a fan of another.
team. That to me has always, well, I think these were extenuating circumstances with this team and
with Dan Snyder, etc. But I could never become, if I was really passionate, even if I lost passion
as I did, I can't imagine. There's no chance you'd ever get me to be a Ravens fan. And I do know
people over the last 10 plus years who were Redskinned fans who became Ravens fans. But I don't
know. That's... Oh, yeah, there are those out there.
That's not something I don't think that could, I don't think I could ever do that.
Okay, let me ask you to find something here.
Okay.
If you're at a Ravens game and they're playing the team you don't care about,
will you generally root for the Ravens in that situation?
No, I've rooted against the Ravens.
I think Baltimore is a-
What if they're playing like the Tampa Bay Bucks?
No.
I've only been to one Ravens,
game or two? It's a great stadium experience, M&T Bank. I went to a Thursday night game there because
I had never been to M&T Bank for a Ravens game and I just, it was on my list of things to do and I figured
it was doable since it was within driving distance. And they played the Browns on a Thursday night game.
I don't know, this may have been like 10 years ago, eight years ago. And I went and it was a,
you know, it's a great environment. I just wanted to feel that environment because people said it was
comparable to what RFK used to be, and it was okay that night.
But I wasn't rooting for the Ravens.
I actually did root for Joe Flacco there for a couple of years,
because I really did like him.
But no, what's your point?
If I'm at an event, like when we went on my road trip with my buddies this summer,
and we went to a Cleveland Guardian game and we went to a Pirates game.
Yeah.
because I don't necessarily root for a team anymore
when we were there in the stadium
I was cheering for the guardians for the home team
we were in Pittsburgh I was cheering for the pirates
at the event
I mean I think you're just kind of
sitting there stoic if you're not doing something
well let me just tell you something
see here's the difference between the two of us
all right if I'm at a game and I'm with friends
we are doing something.
And it doesn't require rooting for the team because you're in their home ballpark
and you want to fit in with everybody else or you just want to do the nice thing.
It would be that I would be rooting for a team.
As an example, we put odds out before an inning on number or an over under on runs scored.
There would be an in-game wager rooting going on.
But no.
You're such a sick puppy.
I don't know.
I've never, and I've been at a lot of sporting events where I didn't have a dog in the fight,
and I don't recall rooting for the home team at all.
I recall just sitting there and enjoying the game because I like the sport or I like the game or I like the company.
You know, baseball games to me are, you know, even I'm rooting for the Nats if I'm at a Nats game,
but a game for a bad Nats team in the middle of July, it's more about, it's a,
night out. It's, you know, we're hanging out
with friends drinking beers and having fun.
But anyway,
to your example note, I would
not end up rooting for that team.
I would not. Okay, well,
I do that. I know. It sounds like it.
When I'm at an event. Like, we're going,
I'm going to a Ravens game
this year as a spectator.
Which game are you going to?
November 16th, Thursday
night game. They're playing
the Bengals.
One of Liz's cousin,
The cousin I told you about in Spain, who's a big NFL fan, huge fan,
he's coming over and we're taking him to the Ravens game that Thursday night.
This is the guy that had the bar, right?
No, that's a different cousin.
Okay.
But this is a guy, he can't get enough for the NFL.
He loves it.
So a guy that loves the NFL that's coming over from Spain
to go to a Thursday night game,
which could be a potential, huge game in the AFC North.
So I hope you're going to set it up
so that you've got some really good seats
and that he's not up in the...
I've already got the tickets.
I mean, usually when I go to an event like this,
I don't go with a spectator very often,
so I generally go for the best tickets I do.
10. So I think I've got some pretty good tickets.
Okay.
That's a very nice thing.
God, can you imagine somebody from another country who's a big NFL fan and they're coming
over for their first NFL game, how exciting that will be?
And that's a really good game.
Like, you've got them in a good environment against a rival team.
Hopefully it's a big game because Cincinnati obviously hasn't started off very well.
You know, I've never, and look, we're not going to turn this into it to a soccer conversation,
even though a lot of people either enjoy or completely despise our soccer conversations that we occasionally have.
But I really do want to go to, you know, whether it's a Premier League game or a World Cup game and another kind.
I want to go experience the pageantry.
of a big soccer game.
You know, in Europe preferably, but South America would be fine,
or another part of the globe would be fine,
but in Europe preferably, my brother, who you know is, you know,
he's a red-blooded American male sports fan.
It's all the, you know, baseball, football, basketball, hockey,
the whole thing, and he's a big fan of all the teams.
But because he's lived abroad a lot for much of his life,
He has gone to the Premier League championship game final many times and has been over there for other games.
Does he love soccer? No, but he's like, you just wouldn't believe the atmosphere.
And, you know, part of what I think about when it comes to our football team, like so many fans today have no idea when we talk about what RFK was like.
They can't even fathom because FedEx Fields never even approached that.
But that's addictive.
You know, if your guy comes over for his first NFL game and it's a big Thursday night game and M&T Bank is rocking and it's a big time game against their arch rivals, I mean, you're hooked.
I mean, and I do, I want to do that and I'm going to do that at some point.
Not because I love soccer, although I'm more of a soccer fan today than I was five years ago.
But I'm going to do that.
That would not be on your list.
Well, you know, one of Liz's cousins is a season ticket holder to Real Madrid,
and he was going to take us to a game, but they were all away games the whole month we were there.
They didn't play a home game until September 2nd.
I would have loved to have gotten to that.
to see that.
Okay.
It's just like I experienced the bullfight.
Right.
I would have liked to have had that experience.
You could have just viewed it as like another museum visit for you,
which you always get excited about.
It's a cathedral for, you know, Real Madrid.
I think, Tommy, when I was there earlier in the summer,
because I did look at the schedule,
I think that they hadn't started the season yet.
I think that was the issue.
No, they started the season August 12th.
Right.
Exactly. Okay. Right.
With three away games in a row.
All right.
You know, because they're renovating the stadium there.
Right. I remember seeing that.
All right. So I wanted to just read this email real quickly from Jody, who emailed me,
and it's a conversation that I haven't had on the podcast yet, but I want to have with you here in the opening segment.
By the way, Tom's prediction for Sunday coming up on the show.
and something Eric B. Enamey said today during his press conference, we will talk about as well.
So yesterday on the radio show, Denton and I did, we had a conversation where we asked each other
if there's anything about the first two games, Washington's first two games, that was really
surprising. And I said, you know, I don't know that anything's been super,
surprising. I expected the defense to be good. The offense, there was one good game. There was one
not so good game. One good game, really good game from Sam Hal, one not so good game from Sam Hal.
But I did say that I was surprised with one aspect of the first two games. And I'll get to that in a
moment, but Jody wrote, why are you surprised at the offense? Maybe I should tell you what I was
surprised at first. What I was surprised at was the explosiveness of 32 points in 25 minutes on Sunday
against Denver. That's the one thing that if you had said to me, they've got a chance to
occasionally be really, really explosive. Look, when you score four touchdowns in
a field goal in 25 minutes of an NFL game, that is explosive offensive football.
Okay?
That is, I know that they have really good players, which we've talked about, but I didn't
think that in the first two games, I would see something that was really something we can
put in our memory bank, and it should be unforgettable moving forward the rest of the year,
even if they have some rough games,
we'll be able to say, look, they are capable of busting out offensively.
Remember what they did in Denver.
And so Jody wrote, why were you surprised at the offense?
Did you watch them in the preseason?
Did you watch them against Dallas last year in the season finale?
Oh, my God.
And then she went through a little bit.
How do you deal with that?
How do you live with that?
If you're Jody or me reading it, which one?
Both. Jody, how can you live with being such a dope?
And then how could you... I mean, I don't get it.
That's just going to drive me out of the business.
It really is.
Well...
But I have a lower tolerance for ignorance than I ever had before.
And this just drives me nuts.
Yeah, but it makes for a good little segment here on the podcast when somebody writes something so stupid.
I mean, his measuring sticker...
By the way, I think it's a her. I think it's a her because it was Jody with an eye.
That's, I think it.
Preseason games and the last game, the last irrelevant game of the season, that's your measuring.
You should have gone.
I mean, the email went on and on about why Jody, if it is a she, why she saw this as a possibility with, you know, certain players, certain route trees, Kansas City, Eric B.
enemy, the whole thing.
Look, bless your heart, if you saw 32 points in 25 minutes in game two, I did not.
You are way ahead of it, especially if you based it on three preseason games in the Dallas game last year.
But Tommy, forget Jody in the email.
Is there anything in the first two games that has been super surprising to you?
Well, again, super surprising might be an over and over enthusiastic description of it.
but uh all right just surprising then well since i didn't have any expectations really that sam how would
oh look sam how and errit the enemy that's it right that's a surprise to you see but that meant that means
that your expectations for both of them i think it means that you didn't have high expectations for either one
of them. My expectations didn't exist. I didn't have expectations one way or the other. I said
all offseason, I have no idea what we're going to see. No idea. I don't know how anybody would know.
So being surprised by BN and Sam Hal, and what we're talking about here really is Sunday's game,
one game, because it was not overwhelmingly impressive in the opener. In fact, it was the opposite of
impressive in the opener on offense.
So it comes with, well, you weren't expecting anything.
You thought it wasn't going to work.
No.
Again, I'm like you.
I didn't know what to expect.
Okay, all right.
But again, generally, I know we have a new owner, okay,
but we have the same coach who I think has generally been for the most part of disappointment.
So, I mean, your expectation,
level should have been below not expecting anything in the first place.
You should have had low expectations to begin with based on the track record of this team
since Ron Rivera has coached it.
Here's a question I would ask me if I were listening to this conversation.
Sheehan, were your expectations higher for Bienami or higher for Sam Howe?
even if you didn't really have any expectations.
How?
There's no doubt that I was more skeptical about B-enemy.
And the reason being is that no one else wanted him.
And so, look, nothing's been proven.
Okay, let's just, we do have to pump the brakes on a lot of the ridiculous conversation
about what's been proven after two games,
because nothing's been proven after two games.
They were really, really together and organized and exceptional at times on offense on Sunday.
And they've been exceptional at times on defense in both games.
But I think with how, at least I knew he's got an NFL arm, he's got mobility,
he's got a skill set that fits with today's NFL.
We'll see.
But I have no idea what to expect.
With Bianamy, there was something in the back of my mind, and I'm not wrong yet to have had this fear.
But they do look super organized and super buttoned up and well-coached.
They do.
And I love his mindset overall the way he approaches these games.
But it is true, regardless of whether or not you thought he'd succeed or fail.
No one else wanted him as a head coach or an offensive court.
coordinator. And so I, because of that, it's the same, it was to a certain degree the same way I felt
about Carson Wentz last year. Like two good organizations, or one good organization at least,
couldn't wait to get him out of the building. And we were there, we were the ones that figured it
out with Wentz? No, we weren't. And so there was reason to be skeptical about that as well.
But I will say that there is something about the old school coaching style that I like.
It's always been my preference more so than the opposite of that.
I also think that they have really looked completely together.
Like there's nothing in these first two games that would indicate that this guy hasn't,
that they're not a professionally run offensive team.
Like even when they were at risk of losing to.
Arizona and not playing well offensively.
It wasn't because they were dysfunctional offensively.
They've looked completely prepared operationally.
You know, Cooley even pointed out, he said,
they're operating yesterday as an offense.
This is an NFL offense operating.
And they were more than just that on Sunday, too.
But I was surprised certainly by 32 points on five drives.
You know, four touchdowns and a field goal with a two-point conversion, where they were basically
unstoppable in so many ways, throwing the football short, throwing the football medium length,
throwing it downfield, running the football. I mean, they just were hitting on all cylinders
in a road game in which they trailed 21 to 3. That was impressive.
Yes, and particularly a road game in a very tough place to play generally.
Yeah.
And it's...
But my premise, and I agree with you in terms of the enemy,
but my premise is as far as being surprised,
I think the reasonable point of view is not to have no expectations
for going into what to expect.
I think it's less than zero.
That's a reasonable point of view.
I think if zero is a flatline for this team going into this season,
you should have been operating at minus 20.
I understand what you're saying.
I think, by the way, several people who listen to this segment sent in tweets and various things about what they were surprised with.
There were a couple people that actually said, I'm surprised how well coached they've been, and I give Rivera credit for that.
I would suggest that offensively, Ron has nothing to do with offense, other than the fact that he hired Eric Bienemy and gave him the autonomy to do what he wants to do.
So he does get credit for that.
They have actually been in these two games pretty damn well coached.
I mean, defensively, Sean Payton, as coolly said, he told the story he's told this before time.
He said, Joe Gibbs used to say he had this expression.
He said, we've got him shuffling their papers.
And what that meant was offensively, we had them guessing and we had them looking at their notes
and shuffling their papers because we were a step or two ahead of them.
and Sean Payton, coolly said, had Jack Del Rio shuffling his papers there for the first three drives, which was 100% true.
Other than that, other than the three drives that Denver had to start the game, which were super impressive,
and maybe a little bit worrisome, especially when it comes to stopping the run a little bit.
A little bit concerned about that.
I'd like to see them button up against the run because Connor had some yards against them in the opener as well.
But other than that, they have been pretty well coached so far.
Ron's done a good job managing the clock,
with the exception of taking that time out with a second left on the play clock the other day.
Yeah.
Let's just point out that in the opener against the Cardinals,
they had three special teams penalties.
That wasn't good.
Well, they had more than, they've actually had a lot of penalties in the
first two games. So if that's your measuring stick for well-coached, they've had 16 penalties for
like 141 yards, something like that in the first two games. That's fair. Yeah. You know, typically
well-coached teams don't have a lot of penalties. I don't know where it is relative to the rest
of the league. I have noticed, and I could be off on this, but in the games that I've kind of been
paying attention to, there have been a lot of flags in games this year.
In fact, Buffalo's game against the Raiders.
Is this the game that I'm talking about that I looked at the other day?
No, that's not the game.
Maybe it was Buffalo's opener against the Jets.
Nope, that's not it either.
I'm thinking about another game.
But there was some game over the weekend where there was like 13 penalties and 12 penalties.
Like there was 25 penalties called in the game.
Anyway, look, 2 and 0.
going to three and O. Ron Rivera said yesterday that, you know, he basically spoke to the opportunity
about, you know, kind of waking the league up to what Washington is if they can beat Buffalo.
Now, my personal view is, I don't want Ron Rivera to care one bit about what the rest of the league
or the national media or anybody thinks about his team. Just go win and eventually they'll pay
attention. But there is no doubt that if they beat Buffalo on Sunday, that there will be a lot of
discussion next week outside of this market about Washington. Next week will be dominant conversation
about Washington. The conversation changes totally if they win. They beat Buffalo.
No doubt. Speaking of that, you'll have your prediction.
when we come back. Also, something Eric B. Enemy said today after practice. We'll talk about that.
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All right, so you wanted to talk about something that Eric Bianami said that interested you.
So tell me what that was.
Well, he spoke today to reporters.
And one of the things that he said kind of stood out to me.
He said, quote, you never want to put anyone in a box.
You want to give them every opportunity to show.
show off who they are and what they're about.
It's so reminiscent of what Davy Johnson used to say all the time.
And I haven't heard too many coaches or managers ever say this.
Davey Johnson used to say all the time, you know, I want to give my players a chance to
express their talent.
Okay, that's a recognition that players, you know, even under the most solid team
circumstances, have egos.
Okay, and I think the only people who recognize that are former players.
You know, not every former player.
I mean, Ron Rivera is a former player, played in the league for, you know, what, nine or ten years,
and I've never heard him utter anything resembling this.
But this is an interesting view, and I think it probably speaks to the relationship that Eric B.
enemy is building with this team, and I think it's pretty,
strong. I love that. I love that you honed in on that. I remember last year,
last year or the year before, it was the year before. It was when Chase Young was struggling and he was
being called out, basically called out by Ron Rivera, you know, scheme, maturity, adhering to
remember all of that back in 2021 before he got hurt. And I said at the time, you know,
At some point, if you don't get the most out of a guy like this with this much talent,
then it may be on you.
Sometimes there are certain guys that aren't, you know, scheme adhering to guys.
And you've got to change the way you coach them or the way you scheme them to get the most out of them.
And like Bill Parcells obviously was the best at that, right?
Taylor never followed any directions.
But he let him, like the quote you said,
you never want to put anybody into a box,
Eric B. Enemy's quote, you never want to put anybody in a box.
You want to give them every opportunity to show off who they are and what they're about.
I mean, you do that with talent, with talented players.
I'm not saying that it doesn't apply to other players,
but you're able to have more freedom away from the way you coach with talent.
And the smartest coaches see that and they adjust to the player and the player's personality
and the player's talent rather than forcing their style on them.
I mean, I don't know if that's completely what his quote is about,
but I understand why you pick that out.
There's a follow-up to that too.
He said, quote, most important part about coaching is developing those relationships
and not saying he can't do this or he can't do that.
You know, there's nothing more.
As tough of a guy as Bienami apparently is and as much of a sticklery as he is,
one of the things that came out of that period over the summer,
you were away for this, I think.
I think you were in Spain when Ron Rivera came out and said that players had come to him and complained basically about the enemy.
But one of the things that the players said as a follow-up to that is that they really like him and they're learning from him and that he encourages them too.
And there's nothing worse than a teacher or a coach telling a young person, you can't do this.
you know, I like that quote a lot from Eric Bienemy.
It also probably goes a long way at, you know, building trust
when he allows his players to do what they do well.
And, you know, look, everybody's happy right now at 2 and O.
It's easy right now.
And all the quotes sound great at 2 and O.
Anyway.
I'm not sure they're going to sound so great after Sunday.
All right.
So what's your prediction on Sunday?
Well, I've got Buffalo winning.
I've got Washington putting up a competitive effort.
But I think the Buffalo defense is going to make Sam Howe's life miserable,
and not just for a quarter, but for much of the afternoon.
resulting in turnovers that lead to a Buffalo 32 to 24 win.
I think they both put a lot of points up.
But what's the point spread?
Six and a half.
So I don't think Washington covers this week.
3224 Buffalo is Tommy's prediction.
You know, it's funny.
I was thinking about the game, and I'll have a lot more.
more on it tomorrow. Jay Gruden will be on the show tomorrow. Also, by the way, our old friend
Ryan O'Halloran, who covers the bills up in Buffalo, will be on tomorrow's show as well, so we'll
get an update on the bills. They're an interesting team, by the way. I mean, they started off
with that loss, which shouldn't have been a loss in the Aaron Rogers injury game, and they
bounced back last week in 138-10. But when you mention the turnovers, this is the opportunity for
Washington because of the way Josh Allen plays. He will give you a chance.
to catch some passes that he throws to the, you know, that he throws or tries to force.
And then, you know, you can't give them back if you get them.
This might be one of those games, and I felt like we said it every game last year.
They need to be plus two in the turnover margin.
Well, they lost the turnover battle in the opener and won the game against Arizona.
And the game on Sunday, they won the turnover battle, and it was big.
and the biggest turnover being the force fumble by Jamie Davis.
They were plus two and barely won.
I think this might be one of those games.
They've got to be certainly in the plus on turnover margin to win.
But then again, like I said, you know, last segment,
I have in the back of my mind a team that I watched be super, super explosive on offense for the first time in years.
at any point in any game.
Like what we saw in Denver,
we have not seen literally since 2017,
2016, 2015,
when they really were an explosive offensive team.
Somebody's going to send me a game.
There's going to be a game or two,
okay, but there's not going to be a game
where they outscored an opponent 32 to 3 over 25 minutes.
Not 32 points on five straight drives.
You're not going to be able to find that for you.
for me, I don't think.
I think on Sunday you're going to see a lot more
designated runs by Stashown.
He certainly likes to run.
He didn't on Sunday, but he likes to run.
They've got Dalvin Cook's younger brother, James Cook,
who's kind of taken over for Devin Singletary
in that backfield.
By the way, they're injured a little bit on defense.
Micah Hyde, Leonard Floyd,
and of course, Von Miller's out for the first four games of the year.
I don't know if those guys will play.
I had somebody on from Buffalo this morning suggesting that they would.
And Duran Payne, you know, yesterday missed practice.
I'm looking to see if we can get an update on today whether or not he was back.
But as great as he was, and it may have been one of the best games he's ever played for this team,
they're going to need him Sunday, healthy.
tonight's Thursday night game Giants 49ers at my bookie.ag.
The 49ers are 10 and a half.
The Giants without Saquine Barclay and without Andrew Thomas.
I mean, you could argue the two best players on their team.
But the Giants are going to be able to avoid the O&3 start, Tommy,
after they came back at Arizona last week and won that game.
Fortunate for them.
But I don't have an early smell test pick.
I don't like this game one way or the game.
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All right, Tommy's got it at 32 to 24.
Buffalo. Up next, there's been some stadium news as it relates to the RFK site. We'll do some of that
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good menu. All right. I know there's been some news. I've followed it a little bit. You've followed it a lot
because you're about to write about it. But what's going on with the RFK site? Well, the House
Committee on Oversight just passed a bill called, I think it's the Robert F. Kennedy Memorial
Stadium Revitalization Act, which basically works towards extending a lease between the district
and the federal government, specifically the Department of the Interior, for 99 years,
and also allows within that lease the development and the construction of a stadium
and mixed-use development on the RFK land.
Okay, that's a big deal.
And it passed with ease in the committee.
It was bipartisan support, which means it'll probably pass through Congress
when it winds up for a full hearing.
that's the first step. The district couldn't do anything about bringing the team back to RFK
until they knew they had access to the land.
This when it's ultimately passed by Congress will give them the chance to do that.
They've got a long way to go before it comes reality.
But this is the first step, and it's good news for people who want the team to move back to RFK.
But that's a big step.
and having the ability to do what they want to do with the site is a big step.
But ultimately, this comes down to taxpayers in D.C.
And am I wrong to say taxpayers in that district, in the RFK district?
And I'm writing about this in tomorrow's Washington Times.
People are underestimating the not in my backyard factor.
I mean, that's what stopped Cook from putting the stadium in Potomac Yards over across the river in Virginia.
Him and the governor stood at a press conference saying this is where to put the stadium.
The people in that community said, no, you're not.
And that's what happened.
This is where Cook wound up where he did.
Not because of the financing, not necessarily because of the politicians,
but because of the outspoken opposition in the community.
And that RFK neighborhood has dramatically changed over the years.
I've talked about that before, and most of the leaders there have spoken out against a stadium there.
That's going to be their biggest hurdle.
And they have the city council.
It's not crazy about this either.
The mayor loves it, and they still have to figure out a way to pay for it,
because these new owners don't have the pockets.
after spending $6 billion for the team to then finance a new stadium.
So where are you right now in your prediction of where this team plays
when they play in a new stadium, whenever that is, 2028, 2029, whatever the year would be?
Look, RFK took a big step forward as a potential site when Dan Snyder sold the team.
that removed a big obstacle.
I still think Maryland is the path of least resistance
next to the existing stadium at FedEx,
and I see no reason to change that
as what I think will wind up being the number one pick.
You got anything else?
I got nothing else for you, boss.
Duran Payne is out at practice right now.
That's what's being reported.
We'll see if he ends up on the injury list.
tomorrow, Jay Gruden, with his weekly Friday visit.
And as I mentioned, our old friend Ryan O'Halloran, who covers the bills now,
we'll get an update on them.
I'll have smell test picks.
I'll have my final score prediction.
And definitely we'll talk a little bit about this incredible college football Saturday coming up as well.
Have a great day back tomorrow.
Don't forget if you missed the show yesterday with Cooley, it's there.
And it's there at the Kevin Sheeonshow.com or Kevin Sheeonshow.com.
but I think, knock on wood, we're okay with Apple and Spotify right now.
At least that's what I was told.
All right, back tomorrow.
