The Kevin Sheehan Show - Cooley Film Breakdown on Alex & Allen

Episode Date: October 13, 2020

Cooley & Kevin with thoughts on the Monday Night game and Justin Herbert in particular. They discussed Ron Rivera's comments on Dwayne Haskins from JP Finlay's podcast. Then it was Cooley's "Film Breakdown" of the offense from the Rams game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheon Show. Here's Kevin. Third down and seven. Snap to his right. Herbert is being chased.

Throwing on the run. And it is caught. Touchdown. Keenan Allen. What a grab. As Herbert extends and Alan goes and gets it. And the Chargers score first. Yeah.

Justin Herbert last night. sensational for the Chargers. And I saw a lot of you tweeting both Christopher Cooley, who's with us and me, on Cooley's evaluation of Herbert before the draft and what I thought all during the college football season last year about Herbert. I was not high on him. He was great last night. A great football game. Exciting football game. We'll get to that momentarily. No Tommy today. Tommy will be with us tomorrow. And Thursday this week, we've got Cooley's offensive film breakdown, probably the easy offensive film breakdown he'll ever do because, I don't know, 42 snaps, something like that. Wasn't very much to evaluate.

54. Oh, there were 54 snaps. I thought there were even less than that. Well, they lined up 54 times, basically. When you put it on the film, it doesn't care if it's a penalty or not. It puts it on there. Got it. Still a pretty light load in terms of offensive film breakdown, right?

Yeah, it's, I got some real surprises for you, buddy. Really? I can't wait to hear this. Now I'm really intrigued some surprises on what was the worst offensive day in recent NFL history for any football team. All right, we'll get to that here momentarily. You have a quick what do you got. So do I. And then we want to talk a little bit about the Monday night game and a little bit about J.P. Finley's interview with the head coach, Ron Rivera and what he said about Haskins. And then we'll get to the film breakdown. But go ahead. Go ahead. You said before we're, before we. we started recording. You were talking about before the show with me, we're talking about getting a better microphone. So you were talking about text to Mike and pack and forth. And he said, you never got back yesterday. Yeah. I think I told you this about two weeks ago that I lost my phone.

Yeah. Well, I just haven't gotten more than that. Well, then how am I getting texts from you recently? You have an iPhone. You have an iPhone. Apple product. So I get it through ICloud. Got it

But if you don't have an Apple product I do not Why haven't you gotten a new phone yet? It's been over a week My what do you got isn't that Well it's part of that I told you about this great radio segment Called the classified ads yesterday

Right APOW the radio station I'm sitting there Well today there's another great segment On my way and called the police blotter Yeah Right So it's small town

So a lot of people know a lot of people And they just go through it and read the police plot. And what was on the police blotter? Lost phone turned into the police. And maybe that could have been your phone. It might be my phone. I got to go to the police station. Yeah.

And they have my phone today. It will be so great if they do because I put off getting a new one forever. And I've told my wife over and over, it's going to turn up. It's going to, it always turns up. She hates me that. because she lost her phone about a month ago, and it did turn up. It turned up burned out in my fire pit,

and one of my kids threw it in the fire. So she said, why does yours always turn up and mine never does? That's funny. We'll find out. Police blotter. What else was on it? Was there any serious crime?

I'll be honest with you. I was sitting in the side room, when I drove in the first thing I heard before I turned it off, a woman reported to the police mistreatment of a baby in a baby carrier. She did not like the way the mother was talking to the baby so she called the police. Do you know, it's funny, I just thought of this.

So years ago, I did a show with John Riggins. I did a show with Rigo for two years. It was Rigo, me, and Gary Braun. And CJ ended up producing the show for the last year, first year, this guy, Cam was our producer. And Cam was more of like a guy talk morning show, afternoon drive show producer. He'd been in more music radio. Really good guy.

I really enjoyed Cam. But he, you know, came up with a lot of ideas that, you know, he thought were good ideas for segments. And one of the idea, to be fair, like a couple of them were really good and a couple of them just didn't work for Rigo. And it was about whether or not it worked for. John more than anything else. But one of the ones that worked for John was we did restaurant closings and shutdowns.

So it was essentially going through the list of restaurants that had shut down for various reasons in Montgomery County or PG County or D.C. And reading through the reports of why the restaurants were shut down. And it was actually, you know, more times than not, and it got a little bit old because more times than not, it was basically rat infestation. You know, it was the presence of rats. You know, D.C. is a big rat town. A lot of rats are survivors, man. A lot of towns have a lot of rats. That's true.

D.C. has a lot of rats. Montgomery County's got a lot of rats in and around restaurants. But every once in a while you would get the electrical problem or the water problem or you would just get something to the effect of customer complaint about hair in food. Consistent complaint about hair and food, which by the way, just as an aside, is the biggest problem that I have. I have if I find a hair in food, I'm done. that place will never ever get my business again. Not everybody feels that way. It's a grotesque thing for me.

It's a personal thing for me. I don't know what it's like for you if you just say, oh, it's just, you know, somebody. I pick it out. You just pick it out and then you eat the food? Yep. Oh, my God. I can't do that. I'm done.

It depends on how gross the hair is. I'm judging it on hair. Is it hair color or length? it's usually um textury oh the pew but

it's probably not oh my god you know what I mean and in that it probably could just be a beard hair but it's usually where the hair probably came from someone's head

it probably got cooked in the food it was probably fine oh early on in the pandemic there was when the restaurant started opening up curbside stuff my son who was living down in Shaw, said, you got to try this new pizza place. You're going to love it. And I said,

all right, I'll come down, pick you up. We'll pick up the pizza and we'll bring it home. We picked up the pizza. We're in the car driving home. He opens it up in the car and there's a big hair in the middle of it. And he goes, oh my God. And we were starving. We were looking forward to the pizza so much. And we got, you know, there were a bunch of people back at the house, so I think we ended up getting like three large pizzas or something like that. Anyway, he goes, well, we're throwing this one out. But the other two, hopefully it'll be fine. He opens up the second box, another hair on the pizza. No, there wasn't. Two for two. Oh, yes, there was. Oh, yes, there was. And then I just said to him, you don't even need to open up the third box.

There is no chance I am eating this pizza. And sure enough, you know, he opened up a third box. There was not a hair on the third pizza, but we threw it all out. And we ended up picking up some else. Yeah, we threw it out. I told him I'm not eating it. He was grossed out at that point as well. That's fair.

It was too much. I'm not going to mention the place. I can just tell you that he sort of feels. the same way, and it was one of his favorite pizza places down there, and he is passed on that. I don't, by the way, just if anybody's starting to look up pizza places in Shaw, the pizza place was not in Shaw. It was in another area and another neighborhood, and I'm not going to mention it. Anyway, because I'm sure the pizza was great, and we just got unlucky. So let's, by the way, Mark Melanson came in and pitched a one, two, three, ninth inning

in game one of the National League Championship series last night. He had to get out of there. He had business to do at the end of the game. I got a phone call that I got to get to in about 14 minutes. I got to go one, two, three. I got to go one, two, three. I got a client that I've got a 10 p.m. conference call with a client. Actually, there's a, there's a video that's gone viral with Melanson warming up in the bullpen in the ninth.

On his phone texting back and forth with my buddy about artificial grass and artificial turf. I'm kidding, of course. But the video that has gone viral is in the, ninth inning with him warming up in the bullpen, Albies for Atlanta hits a home run. And as he's warming up, the home runs heading for the bullpen. And Melanson just looks up at the last second and just makes the catch in the bullpen.

I mean, the guy is, the guy, he can do everything. He can do everything. Anyway, my favorite athlete. What about that game last night? And what about Justin Herbert? You didn't like him in the draft. He was not a guy that you were necessarily high on. My big problem with Justin Herbert was in a lot of the big games at Oregon,

I just thought that his performance fell flat. There was a lot physically to like about Herbert. But his first four games, you know, what's really interesting, Cooley real quickly, and then I'll let you talk about Herbert's performance last night. They weren't ready to play him until, you know, Tyrod Taylor had the shot puncture his lung before the Chiefs game. And then Herbert came in and he's been sensational over the last four weeks. Now, they've lost four games, two of them in overtime to Kansas City and New Orleans. The other two were one-score games to the Buccaneers and the Panthers. They were up 17 on the

Buccaneers. I think they just became the first team in NFL history to blow 17 point leads in back-to-back weeks and lose because they were up 17 against the Bucks and lost 3831 last week. and they were up 17 last night, 20 to 3 on the Saints and ended up losing an overtime. Their kicker missed a field goal at the end of regulation that would have won it for them. But Herbert was really good last night, really good. What did you think? So I keep thinking back to this spring. I didn't spend a lot of time evaluating any quarterbacks or any of the draft.

You know, the year before we spent forever the Duane year. Right. But I don't think I watched a lot of Herbert. That said, watching him on television at Oregon, I felt like he had really good athleticism, but I didn't see him throw the ball down the field a lot. Well, you evaluated Burrow. You evaluated Burrow and Tua.

No, I didn't. Well, you really liked Burrow. I don't think, I do. Yeah, well, everybody liked Burrow. I'm trying to think if I watch. any film on these guys. I didn't do my due diligence this year. But I will agree with you that I didn't think the world of Herbert. That changed though when I talked to people around the league. A lot of people really did like Herbert as he went through the pre-draft process. He's awesome right now.

Yeah, he's, I'm really, really impressed. And I just think it's, it's, so indicative of how many games you need to watch someone play. And it's not just to, it's not just to say that Dwayne isn't the starting quarterback for the Washington football team and we know that. And maybe we should give more, it's for any first round quarterbacks. You probably know right now.

And even though he's going to make mistakes and even though all the quarterbacks that everyone's tweeted me for like, like Peyton Manning through 100 interceptions and it's, yeah, I know. But you could see it. They could play. And you can do, I mean, obviously you see it with Herbert. He's giving them a real chance. Their defense gave it up last night.

And also, Alvin Camara was tremendous again. But I mean, I think Herbert's pretty good. I think he's going to be really good, actually. There's a couple things. One, he's big, obviously. He looks the part. But I think the thing about Herbert is the thing that, you know, you look for in quarterbacks now.

You look for the guy that can make all the throws, but you look for the guy that can extend plays and make plays and be willing to make plays. And he makes a lot of plays off schedule. And that's what you've got. If I'm a Chargers fan, that's what I'm excited about. And he's going to make mistakes. I think it's very interesting because I would bet that I think intuitively I believe you. And that is that you pretty much know right away on, you know, probably a lot of positions, but a quarterback, even with a young guy,

you know right away whether or not it makes sense. to invest the time in that quarterback. You see something there. You like the person and speaking of work ethic, you know, things like work ethic and leadership and camaraderie with his teammates and the kind of duty is and the way he thinks. And, you know, even if the results aren't there right away, like I will tell you right now, I forget if we talked about this yesterday, I see something in Daniel Jones.

just as a football fan, I think there's something to Daniel Jones in watching him, even though he's not really getting the results right now. And I don't have any of the other information, you know, just like- Other than Jason Garretz's new offensive coordinator. Yeah, what is that?

That's not helping you. Probably not. And in Justin Herbert's case, what he's benefiting from is a great supporting cast. because their receivers who have been banged up in recent years are healthy. You know, Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, and then Hunter Henry. He's got, and I remember I love Justin Jackson out of Northwestern. They picked him in the seventh round.

They don't have Austin Echler right now. He's on injured reserve, and he's a really effective back as a runner and as a pass catcher. But to have Williams and Allen and Henry is a big help for a young quarterback. You know, you can extend all you want it, but if somebody's not open, And if somebody's not making great catches on the other end, you know, the numbers aren't going to add up to what they've added up to for Herbert. No, I completely get that.

He's got guys that can win. I thought Keenan Allen was one of the best receivers in the league for a long time. Hunter Henry is not the best receiving tight end in the league, but he's as good all-around tight-end as there is, and he is very good receiving tight-end. He reminds me a lot of the way I played when I watch Hunter Henry. It's probably why I like him. But I think he's effective both in the run game and the past game.

And I like that he can get open. Yeah, Mike Williams, pretty good player. Mike Williams had. Isn't Henry much bigger than you? Like Michael Williams had 100 yards. Is Hunter Henry bigger than me? I mean, I played it 255 pounds. I don't know.

I mean, taller. What is he? Well, I've drunk, so. What did you say? I said, I've shrunk. Yeah, Hunter Henry, 6'5. He's probably an inch and a quarter taller. than I am.

I'm six, three and three quarters. You know, I know that. They measure you at the combine. So there's something else about just the game last night. Look, the Saints, you know, Breeze brought him back. Camar is great. Emmanuel Sanders was huge for them. Huge in the game, huge.

By the way, it was huge for San Francisco last year. I keep forgetting when you watch San Francisco, like, what are they lacking? Emmanuel Sanders is a big thing. offensively that they're lacking. No doubt. No doubt. He was huge last night. Manuel Sanders are a really good player. It's good in Denver. It's good everywhere he's been. Do you know who else is a really good player and he's been a journeyman? I think Latavius Murray's a really good player. I've always liked him. I thought he was great in Minnesota. I think he could be a one back if you needed him to be. He'd be a one back in our offense.

No doubt. You know, he runs a little bit upright, but it doesn't matter. He's shifty. like I like him a lot. But what I was going to say about the Chargers is this. Two things. One, you know, there are big differences between one and four teams, you know, and the arrow and the direction it's pointed up. You know? Yeah.

Like the Chargers. I thought that this morning, too. The Chargers are one and four, but they've got a young quarterback that through five games, and it could change, but there's too much there that you've seen to believe that it'll change that much. They have their guy. They also have talent around him. Whether or not you're a big fan of the coaching staff or not, the bottom line is that you're a better coach when you have playmakers and you're healthy.

So Anthony Lynn has not had a healthy football team the last couple of years. And let's not forget two years ago, they got to the postseason and they won a postseason game before going to New England when everybody thought they had a chance and they got blown. out. But they've lost four games. They lost four games by less than a touchdown. Yeah, but less than seven points, two of them in overtime, and they nearly beat the Chiefs. Real quickly, just as an aside, before I get to my other point about the Chargers and one in four teams through five weeks. You know, the Chiefs, I'm not just saying this because they lost the game Sunday to the Raiders. There's something not completely right with

them right now. They're not like this lock to go forward. 14 and 2 and be in the Super Bowl. And I'm not saying that they won't get to that point. Obviously, it's not that I'm down on Patrick Mahomes or any of their offensive talent. But they, there's just, there seems to be something missing. And I don't know if it's the way teams are playing them defensively. But they were, you know, lucky to beat the Chargers. They didn't beat the Raiders. The Patriots with Brian Hoyer and then Jarrett Stidimitt quarterback. That was a three-point game in the fourth quarter. I'm not sure, you know, they get the bills, I think, on next Sunday.

They're going to, I guess my point is, I bet they're going to, I bet they lose four games this year. And what were they last year? Were they 14 and 2 last year? I think, were they? Or were they 13 and 3? I don't know what they were last. Because No, Holmes got hurt for a few weeks.

Yeah. He did get home. And it was, what's his face? Matt Moore, who was the quarterback, but they won one game. I remember they beat Minnesota with Matt Moore. And then they lost another game. I forget what it was. Here it is.

Oh, they were 12 and 4 last year. My fault. They were 12 and 4 last year. So the NFL, and this is the way I think gamblers think, and it's always sort of the way I feel. I'm always looking for value. And I think five weeks into the season, you can start to identify value.

You can start to identify the bad teams that are really bad and the bad teams record-wise that aren't that bad and that are going to either get better record-wise or just are going to be competitive week in and week out because they're not a bad team. Like it's obvious through five weeks the jets are bad. It's obvious through five weeks Washington is bad. It's obviously, I think it's obvious through five weeks

that the Giants are bad. but I don't know how bad the Giants are. We may find out Sunday, but not really. I think we've learned a little bit about the Giants in close losses to the bears and the Rams in particular. And, you know, they had every possibility of beating the Cowboys, but I don't think the Cowboys are very good. But then you look at teams that are like, you know, Ofer or 1 and 4 through 5 weeks. The Chargers are not bad. You know, the Chargers are a covering machine.

The Vikings are not bad at 1 and 4. They're a covering machine. right now. And you know, you can see these teams and how live they are as bad record underdog teams. You know, now the Vikings are favored this week and the Chargers might be favored as well. Vegas recognizes, you know, some of these teams is not bad. I would suggest to you that there was another one I had here. Chargers, Vikings. I would suggest to you that Houston's not terrible and that they're going to rise up and they're going to beat some people that you don't think that they will beat. And I would say the same thing also about some two and three teams

like Miami, who's already proven that, you know, with this guy Fitzpatrick, they're capable of doing almost anything. They're capable of throwing four picks and getting blown out or throwing four touchdowns and beating the 49ers 43 to 17. You can start after five weeks to separate the truly bad teams from the teams who just have a bad record. And there's a big difference. I think you can also go to the flip side and you can say who's three and one, four and one. And fraudulent. Like, I'm not buying the Bears.

I am. I love their defense. I do too. And I, you know, I'm not a huge nagie, or excuse me, I am a huge nagie offensive. a fan, but I don't like either of the quarterbacks. I'll give you a team that I'm not high on. I'm not high on the Saints. I don't see it with them.

They were very lucky to win the game last night. They had a kick or miss a kick at the gun. You know, they were, they, who have they beaten this? Well, they beat the Bucks in the opener. And then they're three and two. They beat the Lions. And they were down 14-0 in that game quickly.

I'm not a believer in the Saints at 3 and 2. I am a big believer in the Panthers, as you know, and I like the Bucks too. By the way, as an 0-and-5 team, I don't know which direction Atlanta will go with their new coach, but they're certainly capable of moving the ball and scoring points, which you always have to be on defense. They're terrible in defense.

So is Dallas. Yeah, but Dallas is talented. Atlanta's just terrible on defense. Well, Atlanta's talented on offense. I didn't say that. They're very talented on offense. They've also been injured. They're always injured.

I mean, it's just, they haven't been good on defense for three years, and they haven't had talent for three or four years on defense. Yeah. I don't know. It's, yeah, you go through it. Like, I'm still not sure on Tampa. I think they're good. I think they're good.

I think they're well coached, too. Here's a good one. I'm not sure on Air Base. Arizona at three and two. I'm not either. I agree with you on that. You know, you can look at Kyler Murray, who is a literal highlight machine. But when you start watching games, full games, and watch him really drop back and throw the

ball, he ain't that good. He makes a lot of mistakes throwing the ball. He makes a ton of mistakes throwing the football. Yeah. And there's some pieces there on defense that, like, when we played them, I like, but I don't like their front three, four, five very much in the scheme they play. I'm just not sure. San Francisco at two and three, I'm not sure they have it right now.

Well, they don't have a quarterback and they're so banged up on defense. They were in the Super Bowl last year. I know that, but they're not the same team that was in the Super Bowl last year. They have lost three to four key players on defense, including, you know, through free agency trades, and then also through injury this year. And let's just say it. Garoppolo's not that good.

He stinks. He's just not that good. And they know it. I think they do know. If you talk to Mike about it, I know Mike's told people this, that if his release wasn't light and quick, it would look really, really bad.

Like, he's very delayed on his decision-making process. But they love him as a guy. Yeah. Right. But I don't think they think he's the guy. Right. How much would they... How surprised would you be if Kirk Cousins was there next year?

Next year, probably a surprise because of the extension that Kirk just signed in Minnesota and the extension that Zimmer just signed in Minnesota. But in two years, not surprised at all. I think that that's ultimately, you know, I don't know. Maybe the timing is just never going to. going to sink up. Yeah. I think that would be the reunion

both parties would hope for. Really, interestingly, Zimmer's, I saw this quote from Zimmer last week that I thought was really interesting. He was asked about pro football focuses, numbers on one of his players.

And he just, he obviously knew the reporter that was asking and he said, I think the guy's name was Ben, he said, Ben, you know my answer to that. And Ben said, well, what is your answer to that? He said, why don't you believe in pro football focus? And he said, it's very simple. They have no idea what the responsibilities of my players are on any given play.

And then he just said, next question. So there's obviously been, you know, pro football focus has contracts with all 32 NFL teams. And they provide, you know, a lot of grading. A lot of data. Yeah, a lot of data, a lot of grading. And a lot of apparently time gets cut in half. with respect to film breakdown on Mondays, I guess, after the game. Anyway, this is exactly what I have always said as to why, you know,

the analytics services and the, you know, the film services, when it comes to football, I understand baseball. Everything in baseball is measured. Everything in baseball basically is quantified. In football, with 22 players on the field, each play, and nobody having any clue, or most people, having no clue as to what the responsibilities of a player are. How can you grade said player accurately enough? I mean, obviously on a wide receiver, you know, running a nine route going deep in dropping

the ball, okay, you know, a quarterback dropping back to pass and missing a wide open guy and a bootleg in the corner of the end zone where you know that that's his number one target and that's where he's supposed to throw the ball, okay. But how do you possibly grade, defensive backs, offensive linemen. You're talking to somebody who does it. That's why I'm bringing it up, because I think you used to feel in many ways the way I did, but you evaluated film and do with a real understanding more times than not as to what the responsibilities are. Not all the time, but more time than not.

Well, from knowing what PFF does in the way they grade and seeing at times their grades be dynamically different than my grades, I get where Zimmer is coming from. them. But in all respect, especially on offense and especially in that system, I got a pretty good feel for what his guys are supposed to be doing up front. Pretty damn good feel. Do you think PFF does? No. No, I don't. I think we went through that last week. I went through it last week. They graded Switzer down on a play where it looked like a linebacker kind of undercut him. Yeah.

And we talked about this, and I said, if you numbers count where on a stretch zone play or a zone run play, where that, his double team would be going to, I said there's no chance that it's to that linebacker, it's to the next linebacker. Yeah. And then you also start talking about, okay, are you going to downgrade a lineman? When you're running back doesn't really push all the way to the side that he's going to the front side before he makes a cutback. Because we talked about Baltimore's linebackers just hung back on everything. So you start to stretch a double team, and it's impossible to get back to a linebacker who doesn't even move.

Three yards displaced from him, and he's behind you now. So a lot of blame was on the back in those situations. They never, PFF will never blame a back. A four-yard carries a fine play for them. To me, four-yard carry with a missed cut is a negative grade. What's your expected yards after that? Four-year-carry could have been an eight-yard carry. second two, a lot different than second six.

So I don't know. I think I know a lot about what he's got going on. The one thing I would say defensively is there's just so many pre-snap checks and adjustments to coverage and so many varieties to play different kinds of coverage. Right. That it's hard to decipher in quarters coverage, which safety is going to cut a crossing route, you know? Yeah.

What's the responsibility? How are they, did they communicate with each other mid, mid cadence to combo something? You know, a lot of times it's tough to see exactly how that goes on. But even at that, you can look at DBs and see communication or not and go, okay, there's a combination coverage between these two players and they're kind of have that sense. But I think it's tough defensively sometimes to understand complete assignment responsibility. because it's just more free flow. It makes sense. Offense is so organized.

What did you say? I said offense is so organized. Right. And at times you look at things, you're like, huh, I wonder if that's part of a scheme or what they've got what they got going on with that. But mostly it's, you see it. All right. I want to get to your offensive film breakdown. And I want to mention what J.P. Finley, what Ron Rivera told J.P. Finley yesterday.

We'll do that right after this word from one of our sponsors. All right, before we get to Cooley's film breakdown, I just want to share with Cooley and all of you what Ron Rivera told J.P. Finley on his Monday podcast, the NBC Sports Washington relationship with the team is that Rivera has to give one interview to NBC Sports Washington each Monday, and he does it with J.P. J.P. does a good job with him. J.P. asked him whether or not he thought, Haskins was pulled too quickly and benched too quickly.

And Rivera said, quote, I saw enough. For 11 weeks, he was our starter. He said, it's interesting because we went through training camp and gave him every rep with the first team in terms of trying to develop him and get him ready to go. Through the four games, we didn't see what we were looking for. I made the decision to go forward with Kyle and Alex. He went on to say the indictment is on the situation and circumstances, no OTAs, no mini camp, a different version of training camp with no preseason. And he said, I was very positive in

talking about Dwayne because, quote, I know that I was positive because I was trying to build confidence in the young man, not just for him, but for his teammates, closed quote. But I saw enough for 11 weeks he was our starter, and he's referring to the fact that he was getting every rep in training camp. It's over. I mean, we both said it was over last week. It's definitely. over. They're not coming back to this. And I had Kime on the radio show this morning. And Kime basically believes, as you do, and I think we all do, that it's all, it's mostly because of a lot of stuff we don't know and we don't see. And, you know, a lot of the rumors are flying and a lot of the reporting out there about how Dwayne was yucking it up with his, you know, in the locker room

after the Baltimore game, talking about his numbers, talking about his fantasy numbers. And if all of that is true, you know, part of me, if I were a believer in him and I had already made a commitment in my own mind to invest in him because I saw something there, I would take him aside and say, yo, this isn't it. This doesn't mean shit. Your fantasy numbers. We got our asses kicked today. We lost to the Ravens and your numbers look good because of the offense we put in that allowed you to execute what you executed at a high school and college level. You are so far from where you need to be and focusing on fantasy numbers after a loss, this is your first warning. I do not want this again. Your focus has to be here and mentor and teach and help him grow and help him

mature. But if I'm not invested in the guy, if I was only doing what I was doing, to placate the owner's preference for a short period of time, then that would be it. I would say, Dwayne, you're done. You're not going to be our starter, and you're going to sit back as the three guy and watch two mature, much more mature quarterbacks, how they handle their craft. And if you learn from it, there might be a chance for you in this organization. And if you don't, you'll be out of here. But if that stuff is true, you know, I,

I don't have a problem with them moving on from him. I know you don't either. But I saw enough, he said, I saw enough. We gave him 11 weeks, basically. Anyway. Yeah, and it's not on the circumstance that there's no OTAs and that there's less training. You saw enough. That's all he needed to say.

I think the one mistake that they've made here was leaking it over the last two weeks and all this stuff coming out with the, Wayne and to me, you're like, dude, pull the trigger a week ago and say the circumstance was, is that we think we can win and it's unfortunate that Duane didn't get all this stuff. But right now, Kyle Allen knows this offense. And I've got to try to win games and put us in the best position. We love Duane. We think he's going to be a great quarterback.

He is our two. He's not going to be the three. He is our two. And we are excited to continue to develop him. immediately then hang that phone call up, pick up the phone again, and start calling other teams. Of course. This dude is great.

He's a team guy. He's phenomenal in the locker room. He's willing to learn. I've been impressed with him. Like, you guys understand this, right? I got a chance to actually win the division. This NFC East is bad.

And Kyle Allen, he knows this offense. We've got a great defense. I just got to get a guy to manage this offense. Duane's going to be phenomenal for you. Can we get a two for him? Thanks. Appreciate it.

See? Next call. same part over and over. Like you just, you just potentially devalued your draft trade by two reps. And I'm saying two, it might be three. Of course,

but that's not the way they've handled things in the past. They are much more interested in kicking a guy while he's down, even if it diminishes his value and hurts the franchise. Like I said the other day, they love punching people in the face while simultaneously punching themselves. themselves in the face. They've done it for 21 years. I don't know why it'll change.

A decent person's entered into the organization, but this shit show continues. By the way, real quickly, too, before we get to your film breakdown, I got this tweet that I read on the radio show this morning. It was from Kevin on Twitter, and he said, man, you've turned on Rivera quickly. What happened?

It's only been four games. And, you know, look, first of all, it's been five games, no big deal. But I haven't. I haven't turned on... And poor punctuation, can't. I haven't turned on Rivera. I haven't turned on him at all.

I just... We're pretty hard on him yesterday. No, no, no, no. Look, what do we do here? We react on some level to what's happening now. Because we all do, you know, on Mondays after games, on Wednesdays after the Monday presser, on Thursdays after the Wednesday pressers, on Fridays leading into the next game.

And then, you know, but at the same time, it's, fair to also have, you know, a view of the future. I was happy about Ron Rivera being hired. I think he was a good coach. I think it's unfair for those people who've said, oh, he had six losing seasons and nine. Well, he went to the playoffs four times. He won four division titles in his first six years. In a lot of those years that they didn't do well, they weren't terrible, and a lot of it was because Cam was banged up in missed games. So anyway, I haven't turned on Ron Rivera. And I am very, you know, sympathetic to the situation. It's not just that he came into a rough organization to work for, but then it got much rougher. A, he got cancer. B, the name change, the Washington

Post stories, the investigations. I mean, think about what this guy who's never been anything but a coach, and now is coach, you know, head of organization, face and voice of organization, has had to deal with all while going through cancer treatments. So I have not turned on him. I have not given up on him. But at the same time, I will say that the last 30 to 40 days have included some of the wackiest decisions and some of the most nonsensical explanations of those decisions that I've ever seen with this franchise. And that's saying a lot.

That's saying a hell of a lot. But I'm not bailing on him at all. I wouldn't bail on somebody after five games. And I want him to get healthy. And I do think, you know, even though a lot of people who are doctors would say, no, no, no, it's important that he stays busy. It's important that he's at work. And if that's true, good.

Let him stay at work. Let him have all of these distractions if it's better for his health. But on some level, he's not with it here. I mean, I think the abundance of caution comment was really, it really crystallized for me, he's just not with it. He's not his normal self right now. And so maybe he should, you know, take a leave of absence and turn it over to Del Rio until maybe the buy week or something like that. Maybe he should have done that already. I don't want him to do that if that's not the right thing for his health. But he's not himself. I mean, I think we can all agree that

some of these explanations on either the timeouts or, you know, Haskins, Haskins 13. days ago was his guy. Oh, we can't, how's he going to the only way he's going to learn is to be out there. He's got to block out the noise. Yeah. Block out. And here we are, and he's basically on the verge of either being released or traded,

if you believe the reporting. He exerted an exercise in abundance of caution with the young, agile, mobile guy and left the older guy out there to be sacked six times

and hit 10 times. I don't get that. By the way, one more thing if we didn't say this yesterday, I don't, with all the disclaimers on Alex, great story, competitive spirit, incredible. Okay, we've all said that now for a long period of time. I don't want to see him take another snap

for this franchise. Period. I don't want to see it. I've seen it. And let's not forget, he wasn't very good in 2018. Kansas City wanted to move on from him. San Francisco benched him the year they went to the Super Bowl for Colin Kaepernick. He's a decent, he's a great leader, he's a great guy, he's a decent quarterback.

He's, you know, in that range any given year of 14 to 20. He's a road to nowhere. He was. Of 14 to 20. He was. He's not now. All right. Let's get to your offensive film.

Real quick, though. Yeah. Your perception of Ron Rivera is that you've always thought Ron was a pretty good football coach. Correct. Not closely following Ron Rivera on a day-to-day basis in Carolina. Correct. If you went back through a lot of decisions and a lot of games in Carolina and relived some of those seasons, you might feel differently.

You might have never been high on Ron Rivera. You just think you like Ron Rivera. Okay, continue. It's like how I thought maybe I didn't like Justin Herbert, but really didn't watch any film. And I'm like, what did I really think? I don't know. I'm just talking shit.

I never liked Ron Rivera in Carolina. Or at least I don't think I liked Ron Rivera in Carolina. I probably got fired because of the radio segment where we made fun of him all the time because he made Cam, would he bench Cam because he wouldn't wear a tie. That's not why you got fired. I'm joking. But that was a weird thing that he didn't care. Remember he bench Cam Newton because Cam wouldn't wear a tie on the bus.

Yeah, I know. He's an old school guy. Sam had his costume on. I'm sure he looked flashy. That was one of the funniest days ever. Your whole Ron Rivera impersonation. That was a lot of fun that day. Maybe we'll have to start reliving that.

I know what you're saying. And, oh, by the way, I did know that a lot of the complaints about Ron dealt with his clock in game management decisions. I told you after, like, the first week or second week, if you just Google Ron Rivera clock management, you get like message boards with Carolina Panther fans going nuts. But I do have a distinct impression of watching the Panthers, over his era being involved in a lot of those games from a point spread standpoint and being

impressed with how tough physical, disciplined, and smart I thought they were, especially on defense. But you're right. I'm not in the day to day. He's a good defensive coordinator. Well, he might be, that might be the case. No, it's not the case. That's unfair. The game management stuff has been horrendous.

I know that. And the culture change stuff has been. false. Now maybe there will be culture change. Well, he inherited a team that was two and 14, and they ended up winning four, going to the playoffs four times in his first six years. Okay? So I don't want to really, the guy was 13 games over 500, coached in seven playoff games. Do you know how many playoff games this franchise has had in 15 years? Zero. I think so. I think. Playoff wins. Playoff wins since 2005. Zero.

They've only competed in three playoff games. We won a game in 2005. I said since 2005, after the 2005 win, there have been zero playoff wins. You're going to call out Kevin on saying four weeks. 14 years, not 15 years. Let's be honest with each other here. It's 20, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19. Yeah, okay.

It's 2020. How can you not do that math? I can. I just sometimes, you know, just. It was a 2006. Okay. It was the 2005 season. Anyway, all right.

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Here's Cooley and Kevin. All right, Cooley. A few plays on offense and two quarterbacks to get started with. Let's hear it. These are the days that in the past I've tried to make light of sometimes, joke. I don't really feel like making fun of everybody on this offense or a lot of players on this offense. I just don't. I just, this is going to be kind of when I was just point point days.

Okay. But you said, you said there were some surprises. There's not. That was a joke. Oh, it was a joke? It was a good, excellent tease. What surprise are you going to get? I don't know.

McKissick was an A plus. I don't know. Well, let's start with the quarterbacks because there were two quarterbacks that played this week. One for a little bit and another for a little bit. So let's start with Kyle Allen. Let's start with the starting quarterback. Yeah, sure. Kyle Allen was nine of 13.

Yep. 74 yards. He threw one ball down the field. Really opened up the playbook like I thought, you know, really started to get the ball down the field. He threw one ball down the field. All right. The good.

the first third and six that he threw to Terry McLaurin that looked like it was almost into double coverage. I loved to the throw. I thought Terry dropped it. The corner's soft on that play. They have a running back swinging out to that side. The corners are really going to come up and play that back. He doesn't actually impact the play at all. The inside DB over Terry ends up impacting the play.

I didn't think it was a good route. I thought Terry was weight back on his heels and was slow coming out of it. I thought he should have made the catch. I loved to the throw. Okay. those are the plays you want to see. I mean, it's not a completion, but for a quarter, but for a receiver, for a tight end, for a coach,

like, can we talk, can we make the throw we need to make to get the first down? And I thought he did. They didn't get it. But anyways, third and seven on the next series, it's a little whip route to Terry. And I think on the broadcast, they really showed who's number 51 for the Rams. I forget. Is it reading?

Yeah, the backer. They were like, man, he's in man coverage with Terry McLaurin. That's a bad matchup and it shows him running over the middle of the field. We watch the play on film, you see the back end. They're bracketing Terry and the safety goes even further. The safety coming down to play in and out, however they're going to play him, both of them play him on the end and both of them break five yards in. It's great route.

But the thing that you really got to look at when you see that third and seven is watch Kyle Allen just hold eyes with underneath coverage. His eyes tracked in the middle of the field and that's why the back on the safety goes so hard. Because they not only feel Terry, but they feel quarterback eyes going to the middle of the field. And then he pivots and makes the throw to Terry. It's wide open. What did you think about the throw there? That was fine.

Terry really had to reach out for it. I remember thinking it wasn't right there. It was, I mean, he needed to catch it. But it wasn't like a perfect throw. You know, the funny thing is, is I understand what you're saying, but I always liked when I had to reach out just a little bit because then I ensured I used my hands to catch the ball. The high, low hit, I can't believe he got that ball out.

It was amazing that he got the ball out. Logan Thomas was awful in protection on that play. I mean, absolutely horrendous. And also, Aaron Donald is looping like a mile to end up making that hit. Watch how fast Aaron Donald is on mass. Look at how quick he gets there. No shit. Look how fast Aaron Donald is.

Oh, my God. It's amazing. Oh, my God. I mean, immediately, there's no, there's no, Like, Logan Thomas' is in protection. There's no chance. It's one second loss.

He's got a flush. But for Aaron Donald to get where he got, wow. And for that ball to even get out, like, I gave him positive. Yeah, I can see exactly what you're talking about. First of all, to watch Aaron Donald on this loop stunt where he's inside on the left side of the offensive line, Washington's offensive line, and he comes all the way around. and takes like the perfect hard angle, you know, around Morgan Moses. It's a corner.

It's this tight loop. It's like, no one can do this. He's amazing. Yeah. He's really good. He's really good. That drive got a second and ten. He ends up throwing hot, which I like.

Unblocked pressure, full line slide, hits McKissick. I think that's where McKissick kind of tighter up the sideline. but it's like look if you don't get it picked up and we'll talk about that let's get the ball out right five man protection the back's out and not in protection second 10

just get it out and McKissac ends up getting a play down the sideline right I mean that's look we're going to have to find a way to pick it up if we really want to start moving the ball but if they bring pressure and you dump it it's great

got it out sure touchdown scramble was excellent You get down in the red zone, those are, if you're going to make them tight window throws or really well-designed plays. In that nine-yard area, that's why everyone runs the ball around the 10, nine or 10. That's the really awkward area to throw the football. Right. Because you can't get anything over the top and everyone can basically sit on the goal line.

Your underneath coverage can sit and react up. It's just a really tough spot to throw the ball. And that's, you know, I'm always, not always, but a lot of times. I'm critical. Like, why are you going to run the ball on first and nine from the night? Like, it's not, but the reason is to try to get it to the six or five so you can have some of those pick mesh concepts when people change defenses from the nine to the five. A lot of times around the nine, you're getting all soft zone coverage and you get to the five and now you're starting to get blitz and mayor. So making a play there. And then the way the hold out of the

football is awesome, like the understanding of how that whole process, the infinity. pile on. It's good. It's a big play. That was a huge drive. Granted, it was aided by two big penalties. One penalty. No, two.

Oh, there were two? Yeah, there was a personal foul. Was the roughing the passer? Wasn't the bootleg? No, there's a personal foul against our guy 88, who I don't. What's that dude's name? Hemingway. Hemingway.

I'll never forget it again. I mean, wait. I think your observation, which we've talked about before, about the condensed field, red zone stuff, is the leads me to what I've said and asked you about many times, and that is this is where the process quarterback, aka Kirk Cousins, you know, or guys like Stafford, not Stafford, Ryan, other guys that are more sort of one, two, three, boom out.

this is where it can be problematic, and you've got to be as an offensive coordinator, really dynamic. You know, you've got to be able to run the ball there. You've got to be able to show run and throw the ball on a play where it looks like run. You've got to be able to run the ball on plays that look like throws. Because if you're not an extend-the-play quarterback, if you're not Russell Wilson or Aaron Rogers or Patrick Mahomes, or Kyle Allen, it's just harder to score touchdowns. There's no doubt about it. I don't know. I love that play.

Yeah. Flushing in the A gap had pressure, stepped up, nothing to do. Didn't scramble around the edges, stepped right up in the A gap. It's a good scramble. Yep. A couple throws before we went out on bootlegs, one to Tameric Hemingway, where he looked like he ran a four, five. You're like, who's this explosive dude wearing number 88?

Why is it? He'd been in the game. I had no idea. His father had a death in the family. And you're like... I had no idea who he was. I mean, it should play. Had no idea who he was until he caught that ball or...

No both. Yeah. I was like, who was 88? Is that... Pierre Gerson come back? He got a lot taller. Yeah. He grew some hair, too.

And then the boot throw to sprinkle was... That was a good throw. Beat him up. Watch the boot throw to sprinkle again. Yeah. I think on the broadcast, Moose Johnson was like, yeah, I mean, it's not a perfect ball. Dude, hit him in the thigh. Yeah. Spinkle throws that ball up in the air, like 20 feet.

Could have been picked. And no, he made sure, like, it was one of those get off me, like, p'pawl. And that ball went way out of bounds. Yeah. That was as far of a drop tip as I've seen, it was like he was, it was like he was playing volleyball. a nice bump off a spike. The next play that I hope your review is the next play. I think

this was one of my favorite plays from Kyle Allen and I'm interested to see what you say. Tell me about it because I want to hear your thoughts. Well, I just remember this play and I'm looking at my NFL game pass and I went right to the sprinkle drop and then I realized that the next play was the play that I talked about yesterday, which was a play in which

if I recall, there was a recognition that they were coming with a blitz and he gets it out super quickly. the only place he can to a guy that makes, you know, six of the seven yards that sets him up. It didn't make a first down, but it had a chance to. I thought that was a good play by Kyle Allen. Am I right or wrong?

I think you're wrong. Okay. And I'll tell you why. Okay. And so we'll get to the negative with that. And I'll just, since you're there, I'll start with that. This is a five-man pressure. Right.

To a five-man protection. He thinks he's hot. Yeah. Okay, so he wasn't hot. Red seven. Red seven. Hot row. Hot round.

Yeah. I don't know what Red seven means. Yeah. Well, McKissick thought it was hot, too, because McKissick immediately turned around. Just get open. If he understands he's picked up, he's got verts. And I think Logan Thomas coming wide open in the middle of the field. Yeah, I see that now.

If he understands he's picked up. Now, keep in mind. picked up might mean that West Martin is on Aaron Donald, so not really picked it. But he should be protected in that situation. So I think he had time to just look down the field for a second. I think Logan Thomas is going to be a big throw there. Okay. I see that now looking at it.

And with that said, blocked up on a five-man pressure, doesn't mean blocked up for long in Sunday's game. No, no, no. It doesn't. And it really never does. You get one-on-one across the board, which is defensive advantage for the rush, which is also a defensive disadvantage on the back end coverage.

And I think because of that disadvantage, he had a throw in that situation. That said, in the negatives, I thought that he had protection issues, especially in five-man protections on where he's turning the line and where his line slides are actually going. He had unblocked pressure to five-man, I think, twice in the game. It was never short. And he's the guy that really, I think, has to slide the line

and make those adjustments. I thought Duane struggled with it. I thought Kyle Allen has struggled with it. which in turn means I think that Scott Turner struggling with how to protect, especially in your five-man protections or your scat or your 50 or whatever you want to call it. I actually wanted to rename all the protections prophylactic or sexual terms. Yeah. Protection.

But if five-man protection, I'm calling the rhythm protection. Or, in other words, the pull and pray. I mean, it works, but you've got to be, you got to make the right decisions at the right time. Yeah, it's all about timing. You know, I mean, you add the back in the protection, and we're going to call that the Trojan protection. Because you're a lot more protected, and there are mistakes that could be made, but theoretically, you should be picked up for the most part. Yeah. The seven and eight men protection, that's your vasectomy protection.

Yeah, well, that, exactly. I mean, that's your become impotent protection. I need a Viagra. I think it's interesting what you said, that this could be a Scott Turner issue. He's a brand new offensive coordinator. I mean, if they're struggling with protections, it could be quarterback. It could be maybe the center's calling some of these protections incorrectly, but you're suggesting.

You're suggesting that Scott Turner, are struggling with this stuff? Well, they are trying to do, yeah, and then I might be right. I might be wrong. I think you got to get all your quarterback and your offensive line on the same page. And so that could be a big part of it. You know, it could be John Matzko, who's coached in the league for 28 years as an offensive line coach, having disagreements with how you want a five-man protect with

Scott Turner. Because a lot of times that actually exists. I watch that exist with Sean McVeigh and Bill Callahan. how they're going to pick things up. I watched it exist with Joe Buegel and Jim Zorn. But they've got to get on the same page with how they're going to pick up five men protections because right now when they get to empty sets, you're going to get a lot of five men pressures.

They can't pick up. Who would you believe in an argument about protection between Buegel and Zorn? Oh, buddy. There were so many days. This is getting off tangent here, but there were so many days. We would always have our blitz period on Thursday, and they would do, they would come in, And it would be like, Zorn would go through all the blitzes.

And then he'd be like, wait, wait, Bugs. What did we want to do here? Then Bugs would, it was the biggest shit show. Oh, God. Not every day, not every time. But there was one or two a time. We're like, well, yeah, yeah, this was a tough one. Okay, so this one, we're actually going to take our Trojan protection,

but we're going to let our back carry to the, I'm not sure, calculus. So, but those protection is, is, you. can exist in coaching and how they want to pick certain looks up and how they want to pick certain things up. And a lot of it is, okay, look, we see three men to this side and two to the other side, but, you know, essentially they like to come from the two-man side more often. So let her center turn back to the two-man side or, you know, are we going to full-slide it or not? I think they're full sliding too much. I think they're struggling a little bit in five-man protection. There's a lot of unblocked pressure. Let's put it that way.

And I don't think it's offensive line communication. Got it. Kyle Allen. I thought he was really, really lazy with his ball fakes and with his run action fakes and with anything in the backfield, basically play action stuff. There's a screen on a second and one that he ends up having to dump into the ground, which I would say is a positive. Like immediately quarterback, bounce past it into the ground, survive a bad play. Let's get to third and one. That actually was a smart play by L. But the setup of that play was so bad. It's second and one.

It's a screen. And four Rams defensive linemen are sitting around the back. Like, we know it's coming. We're here. Right. I mean, there's a lot of times you get a guy to sniff it out. And sometimes there are two. But four?

That count four. Oh, man. I'm watching it right now. And just watch Kyle Allen's backfill. presence. Like you really have to sell what you're doing back there. It's just a poor sell of run fake. It's a poor cell of screen fake, like of drop back after that. And I thought on a lot of the boots and stuff, there wasn't a true extension of the ball. There wasn't a true patience to show run. You got to show them run. And if you want to go back through and watch all this game again

when Kyle Allen's in, watch linebacker reaction to a lot of these ball fakes. It's non-existent. Yeah, because they didn't run it. By the way, on the screen that I'm watching right now, it's almost like the Rams just knew it was coming. Was there another tell somewhere? Like, he's not even to his fake, and they're like all drifting in the area where he's going to come back to. Yeah, I haven't, like, I'd have to go back through the first five weeks

and do like a formation analysis to what they're doing down in distance. But it might be something where a receiver, in the backfield their propensity to screen as much higher. Second one's not a common screen down though. No. So, I don't know, it's funny. I thought about that play,

because there were so many times in the Jim Zorn era where you're at the line of scrimmage and it's like, Antonio Pierce used to always do this. It's a screen. It's a screen. You're like, how the fuck do you know it's a screen?

This is not going to work. he knows it's a screen he was a smart player but yeah you get everyone like the Rams are probably all sitting there pre-snap like it's a screen it's a screen and Alan's going I wonder if I should check out of this

well they called it so let's run it a couple sacks one on a run action pass where West Martin's just beat so fast that it's like I don't know what to tell you third and 15 the possession before he went out yeah I hated It's a three-man rush up front, and they end up adding Jalen Ramsey way late from the secondary to make it a four-man pressure.

Step up. Move up in the pocket and try to find a receiver or step up and run. But he flushes out to the left. God, I hate when quarterbacks flush wild outside the pocket to three-man pressure. And I guess I just don't know. Is it – I feel like good quarterbacks go three-man rush. I'm going to have a tiger. And I definitely don't need to get outside the pocket.

So he gets outside the pocket and it's a throw in. It's just so bad. And again, this goes back to, I've said this all season in these film breakdowns. The Turner 3rd and 7 plus, really 3rd and 5 plus, the play calling is atrocious. No idea how to pick up 3rd and 15. Right. No concept of how to actually get. third and 15.

Well, it's like the play that Dwayne took the sack in Arizona that knocked him out of field goal range. You hated that play call. Yeah, I hated that play call. It's just grabbing at straws at that point. We're not going to convert after you get to third and eight very often. And it's not all on protection. That wasn't, that was a Kyle Allen thing.

That wasn't, to me, that wasn't a pressure. Right. probably go down on the books as a pressure, but that wasn't a pressure. And then lastly, this is just a note. Diving head first is just not a good idea for a quarterback if you want to stay in the game. You're not used to taking those hits. They're bigger, faster, stronger. You just don't want to do it.

I mean, I didn't even think it was a penalty on Jalen Ramsey. I thought that was bullshit. Did he have a throw on that bootleg or not? Not really. There was, you know, I did note this. If you go back and look at the boot that he threw to, Tamara Hemingway. Yeah.

Jeremy Sprinkles wide open down the field. Now, had he dropped the ball on the, no, but he would have. Yeah. No, that's, that's me. So that was one that I thought he could have taken a shot a little bit further down the field. I mean, Alan really didn't throw the ball down the field.

Yeah, well, I mean, they can't right now, can they? Well, I give you one or two opportunities, but you've got to be able to move the chains to start taking shots. You've got to be able to have some balance and some rhythm. They just didn't find it. Allen was a C-plus. Okay. It was really average.

The plus comes from the touchdown scramble. It wasn't a lot of bad. It wasn't great. There were a couple good plays. A couple of plays. he's definitely your guy between him and Alex. Do he really, I mean, I want to do this, but do we really need to do this with Alex Smith?

Oh yeah, we need to do it. Yes. We need to do it. I just, Alex Smith, 9 of 17 for 37 yards. Yeah. Seriously? Four for 11,

two yards in the second half. I think the first play, he ends throwing a swing to McKissick. One, it's a poor, poor decision on the, it's like a little hook spot in a swing spot over right in front and should have thrown the spot. The ball, it's a terrible ball. McKissick makes a great catch and it's a gain of six. You're like, okay, here we go, gain of six, good.

It's fine. The scramble throw to Terry where he flushes up in the pocket. Yeah. Like, just run. But it's a bad ball to Terry. And secondly, don't run. throw it to Terry before you start to scramble. Couple checkdowns in that two-minute drive that were okay, you know.

Like, not too concerned about that. With 14 seconds left in the half, pull this play up since you have this available. There's 14 seconds left in the half. He makes a throw to Isaiah right. If you're just saying, good, you made a throw to Isaiah right. it's an accurate throw. The safety's cheated to the three-man side to Alex Smith's right side. Terry McLaurin's running a post on the left single side.

He steps on Jalen Ramsey's toes. I'm pretty sure it's Ramsey. And he's going to be over the top of the safety here. And with 14 seconds left, I'm taking a shot in the end zone. And you had a shot. Hold eyes to that safety, hold eyes to the right side, and just let it fly to Terry. I think it's touchdown.

Yeah, he's not even looking at that, though. He is not looking at that, but the process of 14 seconds left should be, can I score? Well, not, not be, I think with 14 seconds left in the ball at the 33, it's actually for better field goal range. And that's what they're obviously. Yeah, that's what they're trying to do here. But what would, what's better, Kevin? More points or less points?

I understand that, Christopher. And if you look at the play, tell me that you can't, you don't have a one-on-one. throw to Terry and that Terry doesn't win on that route. I see that. But he's never looking in that direction because the goal is to give Hopkins something less than a 51-yarder. I'd highly doubt that they discussed that goal pre-play with 14 seconds. You don't think so? There was a timeout on the play before, and we know Rivera isn't super aggressive here.

I think they're just trying to improve the field goal range. Hey guys, bringing on in here. We definitely need to get three points. There's literally no chance we're going to score. They're really good in the secondary. Their rush is pretty dynamic. This is just so we're clear. Terry, run hard and make it look good, but this is not coming to you.

No chance in hell. Okay. So do your best, but really it's not coming to you. We just want to be mediocre on this play. actually Isaiah if you do catch it maybe cut it back up and so we have to use our last time out well I mean they were in this position we only get three points we only want to get three points here that is the end goal so Isaiah if you did break seven tackles to the middle of the field you know we'll patch you on the back but really three points okay ready let's go out there and let's go

out there and get this done execute boys here we go on three one two three points field goal um I our goal today, field goals. Okay? Our defense is pretty good. We're probably going to get some short fields. We've got to get about 18 yards of drive. And I think we can do that. Okay?

Everyone on three, field goal. One, two, three, field goal. Look, your mindset, well, I don't even know if it's our mindset. When they didn't call the time out after the throw to McKissick with 34 seconds left to really think about getting a touchdown at that point, because now the ball is at, you know, LA 35 or whatever it was. You, you know, that was your opportunity to have some time left to think touchdown. Once you didn't call that time out there, and now you're down to 14 seconds with one

time out left at the 30, let's see where they were. They're at the LA 33, so it's basically a 50, 51-yard field goal at that point. I personally, I think the chances of a touchdown aren't very good, and really what I need I have to have is I've got to have three out of this to make it 20 to 10. And my guy has not made a kick of 50 or longer this year. So let me get him something in the 40 to 45 range. Now, they didn't get that. They got a 48-yarder because they got three yards on the play.

But that's what they were trying to do. You know what we really need? What? We need a kicker who can hit from 60 often. He's got the leg. We just got to find. We're going to get nine more points a game if our kicker can kick 65-yarders. Well, yeah, everybody would.

That's a joke. I know. Continue. Well, somebody, have you watched the length of field goals? Like, there are teams that literally are saying, if we can get the ball to the other team's 43-yard line, we're going to kick field goals. 60, 59, 58, no worries. I mean, it's, there are 57 and 58-yarders being attempted like, you.

You would never do that 15 years ago, 10 years ago. The kicker, a 50-yard field goal isn't even an issue. You don't even worry about distance with most of these kickers until you start getting into the 56-57 range. Anyway. Continue with Alex. Jason Nealem and Denver. Continue with Alex.

Second half. Tough sledding. Tough sledding. You tough sledding. Right? Right. Yeah, tough sledding. Right?

Tough sledding. Certainly. Certainly was tough sledding. Just wanted to find a way to try to do better. Tough sled and right. First play, RPO. I think it's RPO. That one, I can't guarantee you, but it looks like RPO.

And you're throwing a swing screen to out leverage. I mean, the first play, Logan Thomas runs right by a backer. I'm sure that his coaching point is the first secondary player. but at some point become a football player. It's like a four-yard loss on a RPO screen. That's a bad read. Just hand it off. You're going to get maybe minus one at that point,

and then you're in a better situation at second and 11. Look, I'm just going to sum this up. I don't want to go through play-by-play-by-play. I've got a couple more thoughts. A third nine in the third quarter, he ends up throwing Logan Thomas. The ball's tipped. Logan Thomas is running a shallow crosser.

Isaiah Wright's on a deeper crosser. He's essentially, you're trying to high-low the DB. It's number 41, whoever that is. 41's low enough that he can throw it over the top to Isaiah right. He throws it to Logan Thomas. It's tipped. If it's not tipped, you just got Logan Thomas knocked out of the game. And it's third nine.

So the three-yard shallow crosser, Logan Thomas, with coverage sitting out there, not going to get it done. Also, as a side note, they do not sit down their shallow crosses. When they have zone coverage, when you're running those short crosses across the field, every team I've ever played for, seen, watched, understood, you sit that down just outside the opposite tackle. So you don't get your head knocked off.

Oh, my God, Logan Thomas would have been blown up. Now, maybe they're saying to themselves, maybe, maybe. They're saying, Scott Turner is saying, well, You know, the league now, you can't really blow people up. So let's just run them. This is a Scott Turner thing. You sit, shallow crosses down. Right now, the quarterback and receiver on a lot of these crossing routes,

the receiver's like, I know I'm supposed to keep running, but God, it looks like I shouldn't. So they're throttling things. They're bowing back towards the line of scrimmage. They're trying to throw the ball underneath 22 times a game out of 30. So you better find a way to do it. And shallow cross is a very good way to do it. just they're not doing it the right way. That's not an Alex Smith thing. That's on Scott Turner.

That's a definite Scott Turner thing. You might want to rethink your process of shallow crosses. I get where this is a choreo mindset. Be where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to be there. Al Saunders, accountability. We're going to run out of every break. No matter who's out there, you're going to run out of every break because if you're not open, somebody else is open. Bullshit. Get open. And sitting down shallow crosses is a good way to give a quarterback a window to be open. These are not hard reads for receivers or quarterbacks. And it makes sense watching this Logan Thomas play, total. It's, look, for two or three weeks, I've debated with myself, maybe they're not sitting

shallows down. Maybe they're not. It's insanity to me. There's a reason. I would like to know that reason. That's one of the things I'm most interested in with Scott Turner right now. Why don't you sit shallow? That'd be the first question I'd ask him if I sat down. with him. Why don't you sit your shallow crosses down? That said, he had a deeper cross available. Tys A right on that third and nine. The third and two that prefaced the fourth and two, it's a terrible throw to the swing route. It's not going to get the first down anyway. It's a poor read. He forces it to the swing. He doesn't actually let the corner make the decision to stay back or come up. He just gives him the decision by taking the ball.

and out of my hands. See you. Balls out of my hands. If he reads it out, the way you should really read it out, Logan Thomas is sitting on the other side, on a little whip route, which may be their way to sit shallow crosses down, just call him whips or sits.

He's open. That's a first down. If he reads the swing side out, probably going to get that side deeper. It's like immediate dump. Fourth and two, they come back literally the exact same concept to Logan Thomas and he forces one at Logan Thomas yeah doubled and he just ogles him like pull up the fourth and two like he's going to Logan

Thomas all the way I've watched it you're like dude I went back I started with Kyle Allen and said on a third down throw he had a heck of a job holding his eyes and Terry McLaurin's open in that same area on that spot route or that whip route because Kyle kind of pulled him across the field. Now maybe Alex at this point is predetermined because he doesn't want to get murdered. Right. I think, yeah, I think at that point,

he's trying to get the ball out quickly. He does not want to continue to be brutalized. Missed a couple throws down the field. Missed a post that I thought he had opened to Terry later in the game. Had to throw to Logan Thomas down the field on a four-verts, deep crosser, the safety. I don't have the exact down and distance, but God, the safety makes a heck of a play. But the thing is, it's like, if you're going to throw the middle of the two verts,

that safety in the middle of the field is the guy you're reading. And if you look at Logan Thomas and sense that safety's cutting that cross, then your next vert's open. Can't just force it. Ultimately, the thing that really I thought was frustrating was one, I don't think he read out any of the concepts. I understand probably why. But two, they were panic flushes by Alex Smith a lot of the time,

and even on some of these sacks, where for a veteran quarterback to hit your third step or fifth step or your basic, your end step, his eyes went straight to the ground. His eyes went off the secondary. Yeah. Nope, oh, yeah, run, lose all track of everything. Yeah.

I get it. I get it, but too quick when the ball was out on a lot of the throws, should have been read out a little bit longer, panic flush, panic in the backfield, he looked flustered, he looked scared in the second guy on. Well, probably a good reason. Honestly, Alex Smith was an F in the game. It wasn't, he wasn't helped by a lot. The offense was an F.

The offense was absolutely an F. But Alex wasn't good. He did not help them. Let's get to the skill position players right after a word from one of our sponsors. All right, Kev, the skill positions in no particular order, other than I'll start with what was actually good. I like J.D. McKissick out of the backfield. Yeah.

I mean, McKessick only had one carry. so you're not really going to grade him much as running back. But man, he made some guys miss, and he made some plays out of the backfield. I mean, there were one or two where he was tackled by one, but essentially there was that quick turn and burst after he caught three or four of those passes. And I just, I think there's something to McKissick. When you watch him tightrope the sideline for extra yards, I loved that.

The one run he had was on a third and two on the touchdown drive that he ended up which I thought was a really good run. The third and seven that he doesn't get, he understands or he at least is on the same page with the quarterback. He's given him a window. He's given him an opportunity. Really quickly. When your offense is as bad as it is, I think you've got to think about going for

every fourth and one. I think they almost had to think about going for that. Rivera was asked about it and he, I forget what his answer was, but it was basically, it was a fourth and long one, he said. Yeah. I know. No, it wasn't. Actually, it wasn't. I remember this place specifically.

He was, Rivera was furious about the spot of the ball. But then when you looked, the spot was a positive spot. It was a really helpful spot to where they actually put it. And it probably was a regular one. Did he get a, did he get a measurement on that? this play? It did. They measured it. It wasn't a long one. It was a favorable one. And it was a favorable spot. If I remember right, it was like a little less than a yard. Here's what he said. It was a long fourth and one. If it had been a little bit inside, we could have gone for it. It was right around

the 40 yard line. I did think about it. That's why I asked them to measure it so I could see it. It was a little bit longer than I appreciated. I did go for it on another fourth and one. And obviously it was incomplete. That was actually a fourth and two. So it's those situations. We're not. It's those where you look at it, I don't know. It was a little bit longer than I would have appreciated. What do you want? Fourth and a centimeter? I guess.

Hey, we're, uh, guys, we're going to do this completely on the metric scale. If we can put it in less than 13 centimeters, we're going to go for it every time. Where was the play? 14 to 18 centimeters. It'll be context, but beyond 18 centimeters, we're, we're, we're punting. I can't find the play.

Oh, here it is. It's at their own 42-yard line. Okay. Yeah, it's not an advantageous spot, and it's early in the game. But even in the moment watching the game live, I was like, because they got to start thinking about going for these. And honestly, maybe you're saying we can't quarterback sneak it because Aaron Donald's going to be right there.

It's a 50-50 decision. It's just if you can't score, you need to keep the ball a little bit more than the kick. to keep the ball. It's something they're going to think about. I thought McKissick was a B-plus. I thought he was pretty good in this game. Eight, eight targets, six receptions, made some good plays after the catch. Antonio Gibson, he is not getting better as a running back. Really? Oh, you mean because he's not pressing? He is. Here's my notes.

he doesn't follow any track to the run scheme that you would normally expect. They're predetermined. And what's more, he's not hitting it up in the hole. Like remember the thing we loved about Adrian Peterson wasn't that he was going to bust one. It's just that he knew that if two was available, he'd put his head down and get three. Right. I should have, I got to do a better job so you can watch these plays. But they run a counterplay where they're pulling.

Logan Thomas from the other side and a guard. Joe Gibbs always called it White Charlie. Whatever. I don't. Okay. He cuts this back immediately. And it's essentially a counter. There is no cutback.

It's a gap scheme play. If he hits it in the hole, it's six, seven, eight, ten. I think he ends up getting a four or five yard gain. But this is a big hole. An opportunity for a good run, you just hit in the hole.

You can't back. or cut everything at the line of screaming. He's better at catching it on the screens, the bubbles of the screens, because he really seems to use vision, and he's decisive on those. Yeah, the little screen where West Whiteser got out in front of him that he took down to the nine-yard line.

Yeah. That was a... He's good in open space. Right. He's actually pretty good in open space. He's a guy that can break tackles, but he's also a guy that on a couple opportunities got tackled by one dude.

The Rams looked like the best. tackling defense on the league Sunday. I just, right now I'm questioning, you know, his track is an initial ball carrier and his, his first decision. That was the thing, you know, it's not all zone scheme stuff for them, it's a lot, but that was the thing, the Mike Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan thing, is that first decision is paramount. Like, it's one cut and go.

And I think there's also some, in this is guessing, I think, I think there's also some success that Gibson's had bouncing plays. Like last week he had a duo carry or a inside dive play that he bounced all the way back to the weak side around the outside of the edge of line of script. It's like that doesn't happen very often. It's a good run, but you can't count on those things to happen. Just get three. Get four.

That's the thing is a three-yard carries a good play in the NFL. You think Randy Jordan's a good coach, though, don't you? I like Randy Jordan. Randy, keep in mind, was the only coach that was retained, but it was also because Carolina's running backs coach was retaining Carolina. Right. Who is that? He was a QC for us.

I should think of his name, but they promoted him to maybe quarterback's coach, which was weird, but he's a good coach. Randy was and Katz were the only two retained. Okay. Look, Gibson's a guy. young player who hasn't played a lot of running back. He did play running back at Memphis. Everyone keeps saying he was only a receiver. He had some carries in right. He was a he was a versatile duty. It wasn't only receiver. Go back and watch, I watched a lot of Gibson. I still personally

believe as an aside. Okay, so just quickly, Gibson was a C minus in this game. Um, but my personal belief is that he can be more of a receiver. They're not letting him run routes at this point, which to me seems interesting. Only, based on the fact that they used Christian McCaffrey as a receiver every three down. Right. So they know how to do that. Like the route tree for Antonio Gibson exists as screen or swing or one or two shallow crosses. Like he has no route tree.

So right now, McKissick's got a little bit more. But when you start going with that two backfield set and some of the things that you've got, you have through five weeks eliminated versatility out of that you've got to start creating more versatility out of your two back sets Gibson and McKissick should be on the field more times than they are collectively and if you want to do that there's a lot you can do out of that two back set there's a lot of things Gibson could get out of the backfield that they're not getting to okay Terry McLaren the first third down and seven one I thought was a drop right it was contested first drive of the game first drive of the game two i thought that he leans back and breaks on his heels at the top of that route and as you start to lean back takes away all deception

of getting down the field and it makes you slower out of your break i thought it was a good ball i thought it was a play he needed to make there um couple opportunities as positives we had a couple posts that he was open on. I mentioned the one multiple times at the end of the half, and there was another one at late in the game that he was over the top, and Alex just overthrew him. A nice catch on the third down on that little spot or that little whip route that he gets some good yards after the catch. You'd like to see Terry more involved as well. It's weird. Like Terry was a C in this game. It's not like he had a ton of targets. It's not like he had a ton of opportunities. I also thought the second four that Alex threw low to him was a tough catch.

But again, like, you want to make those catches as a receiver. Remember the one where Alex stepped up and awkwardly threw it across his butt? Like, I think he should catch that ball. I wouldn't truly downgrade it, but that's, hit his hands. Yeah. About one inch off the ground. Inman, nothing in this game. Like 31 plays. What did did did men have any catches? Well, I mean, they didn't have many catches in the game, period. Did he have any? McKissick had six and then everyone.

Inman, one target, one reception, negative two yards. Oh. Yeah, it may have been one of Alex's plays early in the second half. Yeah, it was a little swing out to him or something is what it was. Yeah. They're getting nothing out of Inman. right now. He was a C-minus in this game. Okay.

Antonio Gandy Golden. Got a lot of snaps. 23 snaps. Yeah. It was not targeted one time. I did not find one opportunity where I said, wow, Antonio Gandy Golden's wide open here. He's a C-minus in this game.

The tight ends. Yeah. Let's just, let's start with Sprinkle. Oh, boy. He had the drop on the boot that was terrible. he played nine plays okay like he was in nine plays there's no understanding of how to attack leverage or technique of a defensive player there's an inside run play an inside zone play where sprinkles on the right side he has an outside linebacker outside of him the outside linebacker is a force

or contained player his job is to make sure everything goes inside of him if you're the tight end step out and influence him outside. The back's tracking that way. He'll feel it. You step out. He'll widen. And then you ensure the block immediately. He immediately sprinkle turns inside, turns his ass to the ball carrier, and then gets beat inside.

It's just that technique doesn't work. It's bad. Understand what he's going to do. He's definitely the case. contain player. If you step out, it's an easy, like this is an easy block. His guy gets in on the play. This is like a, you really shouldn't even have to worry about you. It's not like the Rams have Terrell Suggs out there. Right. Not in that play. Poor Sprinkle. Look, he played nine plays. Sprinkle was an F. It just, he was. Logan Thomas. Yeah. Magnet in man-to-man coverage.

Horship pass protection on the high. low quarterback hit absolutely terrible again i want to know how amazing arundonald is we'll continue to do this zero impact in the run game zero movement as a run blocker shit route on a short post where this is a third down that alex think took a sack on they have a cross a lot of a lot of sacks in the game it was a bunch set to the left and the first route is a shallow crossing route the quarterback tried to read that as number one then the second route is a short post, like stem outside towards the numbers to about five yards and then break it back across the face. He breaks it like two yards.

No one believes that you're going vertical. That design is so it looks like verticals. The design is to look like four verts. And if it looks like four verts, the torner should turn or the DB should turn and start to run. And then you have a big window across the space. One, that should never be Logan Thomas on that route. He's not that guy. Two, it's not a good route, and he's not open.

I wrote this and I mentioned it, the little swing screen on an RPO and the first play of the second half, just be a football player. Right. Like, Reader goes out and makes the play. But he should have felt Reader that whole time. Now, I get your responsibility might be to go to the first secondary player. It probably was. But, God, like, who's more dangerous in the moment?

for me if you come off of the sideline you're like coach I could see him he was flying to the ball the DB was eight yards off I felt like receivers got a chance to make that DB miss downfield or the back I had to make this block

I know it wasn't what we expected it wasn't the look that we talked about but he was there I would say damn good choice it's the play that Inman lost the two yards on on the one catch yeah Logan Thomas was an F in this game.

I've never seen more Fs in a grading for this. It was the worst offensive day ever. We've got three Fs. We've got an Alex Smith F, a Sprinkle F, and a Logan Thomas F. I wonder if the coach had provided these guys with in-game quizzes if they would have gotten

better than an F. Well, Isaiah Wright failed the in-game quiz. Yeah, well, you didn't grade right. What was... Isaiah Red actually played 42 plays. I wrote this down in Watching Wright. What? What is he running? Like there was no definition to so many of his routes.

A lot of times I'm like, I'm trying to decipher and I have to go through like full concept. The spacing to inman and right and the definition of routes and the getting where you're supposed to be immediately is not there. Like they're not a good route running team right now. That, I will concede they were not for Dwayne Haskins and they are not now. maybe that was no OTAs Isaiah Wright was not good in this ballgame he made a choice at the end of the half that I think is pure insanity failed the quiz the punt fielding yeah

fumbled a punt which was close to disaster fair caught a punt on the four yeah got seen a lot of that in NFL games what was right I mean what do you want me to say like Yeah, Brian F in this game.

Okay. What about Hemingway? He was in a. He was? Dude, he played five plays. He made an impact on a lot of these plays. First plays in, it's a cross the line of strip bench. They call it a sift block or a seal block.

Not the best, but he fights all the way through the play, all the way down the field. dude gets real mad and throws him down. And they throw the flag. I credit Hemingway, 15 yards on that play. A little play Hemingway. A little catch on a boot coming back across the field. Nice catch.

Turn it up, could run, could move. Another decent block on five plays. I thought it was pretty darn good in this game. Five plays. Instead of it's not 10, you don't get a grade. Well, I mean, you've graded Sprinkle, you've graded Sprinkle an F with nine snaps. So Hemingway was just not good in this game. Hemingway gets an A, the only A of the day so far, but we still have the offensive line.

We still have the offensive line to get to. It's a trendy, trending. Yeah, you think there's some A's. So what am I going to give him a B plus? No, you're just going to give him a, did pretty good on your, you're going to give him a back. A check plus? Tap on the butt. Check plus.

Yeah. We'll give him a check. Pass. We've got to pass. We'll give him a check plus. All right, let's get to the offensive line right after this word. We could actually do this. Sorry.

I know we can do it quickly, but let's do it right after this word from one of our sponsors. All right, five offensive linemen, no subs. Offensive lineman-wise. They all played 54 snaps. Most of our fans think that the offensive line was just horrible on Sunday. Let's hear your grades. We could do this whole thing as pass-fail. Probably would have been more impactful today.

Cannot actually have grades just pass-fell. Duran Christian, fail, West Martin, fail. Chase-Rurier, passed barely. Swayzer, Moses, passed barely. No, seriously. Let's start with Dron Christian. Second five, run action sack. Just really slow to help get back to Aaron Donald.

Like really, he's sorting outside to help Logan Thomas on number number 45 and Aaron Donald's just mauling West Martin. And it was like, yeah, I do see that you might need help. But, uh, that looks hard. He's too high in the run game. I wrote, this is, it's not paddy cake. Like, we're not slap putting our hands on people. Like, it's punch and hand placement and run your feet.

It's patty cake for him in the run game. There's a double team where he's helping Martin on Aaron Donald. And he lays a limp arm out there and barely bumps him. you're like, dude, come on. If I'm Martin, and we walked the line of scrimmage, I'm like, make sure you give me a great post here, bro. I'm probably going to need some help. I don't know if you watched a lot of film on him, but he is really good.

Open edge way too quick as a pass set player. The offensive line is taught to kick and then slide. So for Christian, it would be a kick back with his left foot and then his right foot would slide and in doing so you would like to stay square right yeah square he opens his left hip up

on his second kick and as the game got on I wrote I didn't know that turn and run was a path protection technique yeah oh poor journey that's panic and this is a common thing between him and Martin in this game is they abandon

all technique because they were outmatched by the rack. They were conscientious objectors in this game. They didn't want any part of the Rams D-lined. No, and it was just based on maybe. The third and two run, the McKissick, the third and two run the McKissick has. He's got Donald on the outside edge,

and his job is to get in front of him, cut him off from getting to that zone. run away from him. He, his right foot steps back like four inches, bucket step in the bucket and then try to open. You're like, you can't do that. I know Aaron Donald's fast, but the only way of beating him there is taking a positive step.

You're capable of doing it. He's panicked. He's a D-minus in this game. Worst grade. West Martin. Everyone knows what happened to West Martin in this game. He was bowed in the run by 99, almost. anytime he had to block him one-on-one.

He was unable to sustain any base blocks against any Rams players. You mentioned the dude 68 who's good. He was good, too, in this game. D-line was, they played fast up front as a defensive line. A bore actually punching Aaron Donald or using his hands to Aaron Donald and just going with Bear Hug technique.

That's, again, a panic technique. West Martin's very capable of using his hands and punching, but when you just reach out to Bear Hug, it's like, oh, please. bad hip bend, more of a waist bend for him in this game a lot. Obviously, the pressures were tremendous. A couple were zero chance for the quarterback. The run action pass that Alan was sacked.

This is incredible, the first sack that Alan takes. The line is sliding to the right. West Martin has Aaron Donald outside of him to his left. He's actually sliding to his right to sell run to the right. Donald comes completely across his body from the other side of Martin, who is still sliding that way and beats him in front of his face. That can't happen. He's just going to tell you right now,

I'd block Aaron Donald from that protection. No ass. Yeah, I'm watching. Like, just get in the way. Like, I might get knocked back a little bit, but he's not crossing my face there. No chance am I getting my face crossed on that plate. That is garbage. Oh, boy, yeah.

He's sliding that. way. Yeah. Aaron Donald's on the other side of him. The way, there's no chance. Like, if you freeze this and you tell me the play,

you tell Aaron Donald the play. Well, Aaron Donald might be like, I'll still win. But you tell me the play, I'll be like, no chance could Aaron Donald beat him in front of his face? Should never happen.

It was just, it was little brother, big brother all day for West Martin. And it wasn't like, it was like he was the third or fourth little brother. He was a real little brother. Right. Like your brother just came back from college football and you're still 11 and you're just playing

Yeah, and you're just begging him just to play catch with you in the backyard and he's just telling me Come on, come on, throw it to me, throw it to me. Yeah. And then your brother's like, I'll throw it to you. Blazes one as hard as he can. He's like, oh, I don't want to play anymore. And your big brother's like, you better use your hands. I'm going to teach you to use your hands when you catch the ball.

Martin was a. Come on, grade him. F. Yeah. Rouier. Look, there was some things Ruehier did well. A couple good double teams. I just don't think he finishes run plays well.

I don't think he finishes sustain well. He was a C in this game. Wes Weitzer was probably the best offensive lineman in this game. I thought he still played physical at times when he had to have Donald. There was a couple double teams that he had with Moses where they had actually decent movement on Donald. the third and two play, the McKissick got, this is funny that I keep going to this, but this was like the only positive run play on third down,

or one of the only positive third down plays. Watch Switzer on that play. It's an awesome front side reach block. He makes that play. Use tight hands a lot. Great block on the Gibson stream. I said he used tight hands a lot of this. My next note is good replacing hands.

Like when he shot his hands into the chest and didn't win, he did a nice job changing and replacing his hands. Right. The negatives. Two passive one singled up in the run game, weighting, sizing up. Like, you're a physical big dude. Like, I actually think there's something too switzer. But you size things up, and it makes it tough because you play slow.

It wasn't always good in the run, but it was better than anybody else. Gave up a sack on an up and under late with no chance. Speed started to get him late in the game. Some of the stunts he couldn't handle. his feet were too slow. And then 322 in the third quarter, there was a nice delayed blitz by the Rams. He doesn't see it.

Another sack there. I thought Switzer was a C plus. Morgan Moses, to me, looked slower off the ball in this game. Too much body lean, too much waist lean, didn't play fast, missed some stunts late in the game also with Switzer. Didn't give up true pressures one-on-one, often one or two. And ultimately, it was really weird. The one I think he gave up off the edge.

it was like he just turned and lean and I can see like you can definitively tell when Morgan Moses is not healthy he's one of those players that it changes completely for Moses he was a C in this game the offensive line collectively was an F in this game the offense was collectively an F in this game

it was hard hard hard to watch as I got I quit watching the game in the early part of the fourth quarter in live TV I was like I'm not I've just done this I'm gonna watch another football game I want to watch real football right now And this game was definitely over.

I've one question. I watched the film and almost wanted to quit in the fourth quarter. I'm like, there's no reason to grade this fourth quarter. It's bad. And it got worse. It got worse in the fourth quarter offensively. All right. I want to finish up with just this one question.

And it may lead to another one. But did they game plan for Aaron Donald? Were they prepared for Aaron Donald? No. Okay. So that leads me to this. Why not? And how much of these first.

five weeks of inconsistent play by a lot of players on offense, inconsistent offense, bad offense, are you putting on a new, inexperienced rookie offensive coordinator and Scott Turner? I don't think Scott Turner is doing a very good job right now. I think that he has some pressure on him, but I don't, I just don't think he has an understanding of how to get the ball down the field. Why didn't they game plan for Aaron Donald? Why weren't they trying to double him?

Why weren't they accounting for him? It was one of the keys to the game for anybody that's watched the Rams. As a fan, you've got to block him, you've got to account for him, you can't let him wreck the game. We both said it Friday. He can wreck a game. He did. He wrecked the game. He personally wrecked this game.

There's so many little things that you can do, too. Like, they didn't trap him one. Granted, I said this, he knows how to play trap. He's been trapped a million times. They didn't utilize almost any gap scheme stuff. They didn't check runs away from him. Like there is no check with me system in the run game in this offense. It's call it and run it completely across the board.

They didn't very snap count throughout this game at all. I mean, you can hear it on the TV broadcast. It was almost always on one. There was no like hurry up to the line of scrimmage, quick count stuff. was no keep a back in and chip Aaron Donald. There was very little to try to deceive him. They just let him play. When you let him play, he's going to end up with three or four sacks and 22 impact plays.

Unless you have a phenomenal guard. And then even at that, they'll move him outside over the weakest player. They didn't game plan for the Rams front at all. They were poor and passing off stunts. The Rams are a huge stunt team defensively. The speed overwhelmed them up front. it was not good. All right.

You did not do a defensive film breakdown last week because we had all of the Haskins, you know, getting benched news that we ended up focusing on. I actually am more curious about what you thought of the defense because you know what I said yesterday, which was I thought it got better as the game went on after the first three drives. And I'm still somewhat optimistic about the defense.

So we'll do that tomorrow. Everybody enjoy the day. Tommy will be with us tomorrow as well.