The Kevin Sheehan Show - Cooley Film: Buffalo Game

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

Cooley and Kevin today with Cooley's film breakdown of the Buffalo game which includes an in-depth analysis and grade for Sam Howell. He also spent time on Eric Bieniemy's plan and play-calling, the Commanders' 3rd-down defense, and more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheon Show. Here's Kevin. Coolie's here with a film breakdown. The show today is presented by, as it always is, Window Nation. Call them at 86690 Nation or go to Window Nation.

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Not that you need to hear that, but people were excited after a 2-0 start. There was a lot of excitement about the 2-0 start and the win at Denver after being down 21-3. And then came Sunday against Buffalo. I still think people are going to be excited to hear what you say about the Buffalo game. But that was ugly, wasn't it? It was so ugly, top to bottom, and it didn't have to be that ugly.

It really wasn't. Well, it was. But, I mean, we're going to throw it. There's some opportunities that they could have scored. They had the chances to stay alive in the game. Man, you talk about, it wasn't me that's a big hit. it's Howell a week ago. It was exciting to watch the kid play a week ago.

Now, granted, Denver's defense gave up 70 this week. Yeah. So I'm not sure that is the ultimate test. Right. It does make you question a little bit to Denver, you know, explosion of 35 points. But, you know, the Raiders didn't do that to Denver. So there is that.

Maybe Miami is a major outlier this year. It's possible. Well, I think Miami's really good on offense. Yeah. If two is healthy with their weapons, they have so much speed, and Mike Daniel gets those guys, plain, fast, with speed, downfield concepts, touch cover them. And Tree Kill just adds that number one element that scares the life out of you.

They didn't even have Jalen Waddle. You know, they didn't even have Waddle on that game. Did you watch football last weekend or not this past week? I did watch football last weekend. Okay. So what did you... It was the first weekend I watched football. What did you watch?

I bought the YouTube package. You did? So you paid the like 400 bucks for it? 400 bucks. Yeah. But it's like we had direct TV a year ago, which is fine. I just don't watch TV. Right.

Like I really, I don't really watch almost no TV. I want a direct TV so I could have the Sunday ticket. Right. So I didn't, my, Maddie was all concerned. She said, Direct TV, I'm hiring $35 a month of canceling this. And they made her some great offer that was like $40 month instead. You're talking about Direc TV. And she's like, nah, I said, that's not fair. That's not doing that. Like, why? We became a great deal.

We've got to send all her stuff back. you're doing it three weeks before football starts. Just make it through the season a couple more months. That said, bought the YouTube package. I watched most of the Commander's game, which was thrilling. I watched the Red Zone channel as that went off, and then some of the afternoon games are the later games, for me the afternoon games, which were not thrilling by any means.

And then I didn't watch the Sunday night game, but I wanted to. I won money on the Sunday night game. But I got busy. You had to play. Yeah, Pittsburgh. But we had to watch Wii Bowl, or we had to play Wee bowling. Oh, you did? Wee bowling.

Well, that's a good family activity. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, real quickly on Miami, because I actually had referred to them after they beat the Chargers, because I watched some of that game. I'm like, that could be this year, the second coming of the greatest show on turf.

They just, I can't remember watching a team with that much speed everywhere. And by the way, they're fast on defense too. Like they've got some really fast playmaking dudes on defense as well. But if Tua stays healthy, it's really, you can't say anything definitively after week three. And they're an underdog Sunday at Buffalo. They play at Buffalo.

Weird, huh? A little bit weird? Yeah, I guess because of the 70. If they had just beaten Denver, it wouldn't have been weird. You know, if they'd beaten Denver 35 to 17, it wouldn't have been weird. But because they had 350 yards rushing and 376 yards passing, because they had 726 yards of offense and 70. and it could have been more, it's a little weird.

But got out of hand, though. Vegas knows that. It got out of hand. Got out of hand. I mean, when you say got out of hand. Go ahead. I was going to say, when you say got out of hand, like in a football game, it's like, oh, my God, yeah, it ended up 38 to 10, but it really got out of hand late.

38 to 10, you know? Yeah, that's more like, that's like 49 to 10. Okay. 46 to 10. 52 to 10. 70 to 10 really got out of hand. Really dropped the ball there on the defensive side in the second half. I mean, they had a chance, you know, to battle.

It was always out of hand. The number's not very good. You know, they play, Washington plays Miami in early December. Miami's got, listen to this, coolly, okay? They play Buffalo. This is like the, you know, for this season so far, This is one of the games of the year. They play the Chiefs in Germany in one of the international games on November 5th.

I mean, think about it. The Germans got their first game last year, which I think was Brady and Tampa against Seattle. I think that was the game. And the second game, and apparently they love the NFL, they may be getting the NFL game of the year. Kansas City and Miami. What do you think the total in that game will be? 75? No, those are college totals, but it'll be 60, which is unheard of in the NFL.

It'll be high 50s to low 60s. What would it be this week? This week. This week, Sydney just steamrolled the Bears. This week, if the game were being played, it doesn't matter, because the weather would, assuming it would be fine. The total would be 61. What is the highest ever over under in an NFL game? I know we reached 60 plus at some point recently in the NFL.

And I want to say it was a Rams game during the year they were scoring all those points. Here it is. The highest over underline in a game, this is the first thing that popped up. Kansas City Rams, that Monday night game in 2018, it was 63.5, and that was the game that ended 54 to 51. Should have made it 100. Yeah, well, still wouldn't have been a... Hope you didn't take the under. That was over in the second quarter.

Yeah. The Chiefs and the Rams in 2018, and then it looks like the Chiefs. Chiefs had another game. No, then the next one, the Rams, the greatest show on turf in 2000. The Rams in a game against somebody, the total was 63 as well. But 63 and a half was the biggest total. So if Miami and Kansas City played this week, I think it would threaten the highest over-under total in the history of the game.

It might be 64. Might be 64. So would you take the over? Be hard not to. I mean, actually, if it were 64, I would take the over. But if I saw like a 57, then I'd go under. Because you know how I think. Yeah, yeah.

Well, neither team's going to slow the game down. They're both going to try to score. If they played this week, they're both going to try to score. I think Miami's good defensively, though. I think they are better on defense than the Chiefs' I mean, they gave up 34 to the Chargers in the opener, but my God, I mean, I don't know if you saw Justin Herbert's numbers from Sunday. He was 40 of 47 in a game. And I tried to find this and I couldn't find it.

If somebody has this, tweet it to me or DM it to me, if you can, I don't know that I've ever seen an 85% plus completion percentage with 40 completions. Like I've seen 40 out of 55 or 40 out of 57 or, you know, 40 out of 53. 40 out of 47 is 85 point something percent completion percentage. That's insane. All right. Some good NFL so far through the first three weeks. Interesting, you know, situations.

Miami's obviously the story of the season through three weeks. Philly and San Francisco are both undefeated. Did you see any of Philly on Monday night? No, I didn't watch the Philly game, but I did do the stupid parlay thing, and I meant to pick Pittsburgh. It was my last game just as you're watching through the day. Like, they did a $40 bet on a four-game parlay. Two were really, like, two were lines.

The other two were easy cover, like easy. Kansas City's just got to be bopped up your money a little bit. I did win. What was your four game parley? Casey Money Line. Eagles minus five. Kansas City outright. The dolphins outright.

Arizona to cover. And I took Philly. But I meant to take Pittsburgh. God damn it. I'm so pissed that I didn't give out Arizona. I played them personally. But I said on Friday show, I said there are four big dogs, like near double-digit dogs, and one of them is a double-digit dog.

And I'm like, one of them, maybe two of them are going to win outright. And I chose Chicago to put into the smell test. I took Chicago. But you just said you took Kansas? Oh, you had Kansas City on the money line. In this point, yeah, no, but in another

just a one offer, I took Chicago. Right. I actually... That was over, that was over quick. I had a brutal day Sunday. I had, I had dead for it. I had Washington.

I had, Carolina. I had Carolina. I had Carolina. I took Carolina. I liked Carolina. I actually hedged that halfway through and took the over, though. So I got broke even on that one. I also had,

I played Arizona and Cleveland, and they were the two winners. I had Washington on the money line. I had Denver, and I had Denver on the money line. I had two sides that were two of the biggest blowouts of the day. No, all three. What am I talking about? Not smell test-wise, but Chicago, I had in the smell test.

Denver, I had in smell test. And I also played Washington. I had all three of those teams plus the points and on the money line. And I guess if I did this real quickly, 41 and 37 is 78 and 70 is 148 to 23. What did the bear score? 148 to 33. My teams were outscored. by 115 points.

It's the worst one it's over to in the second quarter. It's never really over with the points, but the Broncos was over. Washington was pretty much over. Well, at least Denver scored early.

At least Denver scored early. It was 21 to, it was like 21 to 10 or something. It was 14 to 7 or, because I kept watching the scores pop up. All right. Enough about that. Just,

before we get to what you've done film-wise. So you said something at the beginning, and I said, what's your big takeaway? As you like to say, your overarching theme. And you said it could have been better. Did you say you thought they were in the game? Yeah, they're in the game. They're in the third quarter.

They're probably not going to beat Buffalo, but it's a two-score game in the third quarter. And they take the ball down the field. You know, it wasn't, when you're watching it on film, Buffalo's getting every single third down in the first half. And Hal's not playing great. And they take it. They do take it down the field. They don't, and they get no points on a fourth and what?

Fourth and one? Fourth and two. Fourth and two. They get no points. They had opportunities. I actually thought in that moment, almost with a rookie, you just take three and get some momentum back there, get something on the board, get going somehow. And he set the bed on Fourth and two. It was bad.

And we'll save that because obviously we want the whole Sam Hal breakdown. But first of all, you just, just a pet peeve. Because we all say it, and even I probably say it sometimes, 16 is not, it could be a two-score game, but you can't say it's a. Well, no, it's not. It's probably not a two-score game. because the average make on two-point conversions is 48%. So you're not probably going to score two touchdowns and convert on two-point conversions.

Probably not, but can you? You can. It could be a two-score game, but just, I mean, I guess you could say the same thing about a seven or a 14-point or a 14-point game, because there's no guarantee you're going to make the PAT. But we understand that that's 95%. Percent. You should make it. Yeah.

I mean, the reason I bring it up is because Josh McDaniel took an absolute beating from everybody, especially the analytics people. Sunday night, in the game that you bet Pittsburgh in, Sunday night, they were down 23-7. They scored, they made a two-point conversion. It was 2315. Then they had the ball back after stopping Pittsburgh for a second straight three-and-out. They drove down the field, and with three-and-a-half minutes to go on fourth down, he put his field goal team out there. there was a penalty on Pittsburgh. They made the field goal, but there was a penalty on Pittsburgh.

He put his offense back out on the field. They didn't get a first down. And then it was fourth down again, fourth and four with two and a half minutes to go. They had all three timeouts left, and he kicked the field goal. So it was 2318. He was asked about what happened. He said, why didn't you go for the fourth and four? It was a one score game.

And he said, no, it wasn't. It was a two score game. Now, it didn't have. to be a two-score game. There's a possibility they could tie it. But I think that too often people just view eight. Collinsworth, who drives me fucking crazy. I've had it. I can't, he's the worst. He's the worst. He said during the last drive at one point, the Raiders should be careful, they should try to score and not leave Pittsburgh any time. And I'm screaming, dude, what are you talking about? They're down by eight.

They're not going for a walk-off win here. They're likely, this is likely, you know, there's a 52% chance league-wide over the last 10 years, two-point conversions. A 52% chance this is a two-possession game for the team that you want to go down and leave no time left on the clock for the opponent. No, they'd be leaving no time on the clock for themselves. That's if they do actually score. If they actually score.

If they actually score, it's really like a, what do you mean if they go score six and get a chance to go it's like a 35% chance that they score touchdown and get a and get a PAP 30% yeah let's go score now because we really might need the ball back right in fact the odds favor we're going to need the ball back to win the game now can I just mention with 3 48 left or whatever and three timeouts and the way their defense had been playing the context of the game I actually did didn't have a problem. It was fourth and six with him putting the field goal team out there at that moment. But with two and a half minutes to go on the ball was at the eight yard line and it was

a fourth and four, I think he needed to go for that because even if they don't get it, he's going to have a chance to get the ball back one more time with his timeouts and the two minute warning to then do it. I think the problem is that with two and a half minutes to go, you're literally one first down away from not getting the ball back at three and a half minutes with three. timeouts and a two-minute warning, depending on when you make the first down, it's at least two first downs that they're going to need for you not to get the ball back. And the other thing about this is, I don't, I think it's an interesting decision if it's fourth and four on the four.

Just because everything's so condensed. It's just such a tough. It was fourth and four on the eight. It was fourth and four on the eight. It's less than 48 percent. It's less than 48 percent. You're scoring from the four. but fourth and four on the eight, it is condensed, but you've got to understand,

they're going to protect the end zone. They'll survive another set of downs to protect the end zone in that situation. So it increases your chance of getting four yards to then get a first down. They're going to protect the end zone, for sure. So you can probably get four and get another set of downs. That's why I like going for it. I don't mind going for it. With two, whatever it was left, I'm not definitely going for it.

two in that spot I am. Just in the idea like even though in your defense is playing great, like say they come up in third and six, they throw a three-yard flat route and the guy breaks the tackle and the game's over. That sucks, man.

I'm not going to put it on a one-play deal. With three and a half, like you said, where you get a chance to really stop them and two set the downs, sure. But with one, no, and especially from the eight. Like I said, I think it's an interesting decision from the four just because that's a tough play.

Right. From the eight, they are going to protect the end line. Yeah, I just, for me, it's just this idea that when you're down eight, it's a one-score game. When you're down 16, it's a two-score game. You know, when you get down 24, it's really not a three-score game because you're just not going to more likely than not. make three two-point conversions. And of course, context is everything. If you got Mahomes, or you got Allen, or you got Herbert, or you got Burrow, and you got, you know, Jamar Chase and you got Tariq Hill, okay. But, you know, when you got Jimmy Garapolo, not necessarily

the case. But the other thing you said, I just, so I just never had this sense. You know, not all 16 to nothing games are the same. I didn't think that I thought it felt much more like 30 to nothing than say 16 to nothing or 10 to nothing. It just did not seem to me. Now when they ran the ball a little bit on the first two drives of the second half, it gave me like some hope like, okay, I mean, they can't stop Brian Robinson, Jr. He's averaging seven yards of carry. And on these two drives, he's averaging like 12 yards of carry. Why don't we do this so we don't throw another interception or take another sack and see if this works?

But then they dropped them back again, two times in a row sacked interception and then it was over. But even then, I'm like, Josh Allen's too good, man. Diggs is too good. And I love our defense. Don't get me wrong. But really good offense and great quarterbacking, I think, is certainly, you know, it trumps great defense almost every time. but anyway that was my point is I did not feel really like it like I was watching a game

in which they could come back in even though it was only 16 to nothing no they had chances I mean I think there were some things that they had some success with it wasn't just a it wasn't a pure just route

Buffalo's clearly better you watch that game and I don't think Washington wins very many times that 10 if any Right. But I don't know. They moved the ball at times, made some plays.

They were able to run the ball. Gosh, when I got done, I looked at the first half run sets. It's like, Robinson, five carries, 22 yards. Granted, what would they have, like,

20 plays? But, like, I look at that game again, and I think, if you are Washington, and you have some success running the ball. Really, the theory would be, to me, slow the game down.

Stay alive. Your quarterback's a competitor. See if he can do something in the third and fourth quarter of the fourth quarter of the game, where he's got some confidence. Right. But slow the game down a little bit against Buffalo. And they just didn't continue to run the ball. God, there's so much I need to tell you,

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All right. So what do you got? What did you look at again? What are we doing here? We're going to do the quarterback. We're going to look at third down defense, and you wanted to talk about EB. It took me a minute to figure that out, but I got to figure out. Good.

I'm glad you figured it out. Ernest Biner? Let's start with Sam. All right. Well, progressively, we can go through the good quickly. Okay. But some of the good. Early underneath throws, I still think he's accurate.

He can get the ball out on time. He can throw a ball down the field, too. He threw a deep ball down the field, down the left side, dropped it in the bucket. To Samuel. Third drive-ish. Yeah, to Samuel. Big time throw. Sprint, they come back with a sprint out, sprint right, and he throws a hook to Terry,

or a little out to Terry. Awesome. I think he can throw the ball on the move. he can obviously scramble. He ends up having a big scramble on that drive. And then clearly they get down the field and they don't score. But I do see some accuracy. I do see a lot of confidence when he knows where his one read is.

And I see some gamer in him. But that's where the good really ends in this game. Right. Obviously there's some good throws. But you start in the first drive. And this is on the quarterback, it's also, really potentially some on-play caller. The first drive is indicative of this game.

Robinson, seven-yard run. Howell complete the McLaren, first down. Robinson, five-yard run. Howl complete to McCloren, 10 yards down the field. Boom, boom, first down, first down. You go with a run-action shot, you get down the field, excellent throw to Turner, 21 yards, you're down the field, your 25-yard line.

Now you go run action again, and you take a sack. And it's like, he misses a check. He's really, at that point, trying to force the ball down the field. He's not in real rhythm yet. Trying to push a ball down the field. And he knows he feels confidence. He misses the checkdown. It takes a second.

It's like, if you're not going to throw that check down, you've got to get out of pocket. Like, you can't just sit there eyes down the field waiting for it to come open. If you're going to come open or it's not, you've got to make that decision quicker. His decision is not quick enough with, is the downfield route going to come open? is there a chance I'm going to be able to throw the ball? Because as soon as there's not, you have to come back underneath and throw the ball short. I like run-action passes because it can actually act as almost a run if you throw a two-yard checkdown.

It still forces them to come up. So when you go back to a run-action pass, they know you're going to throw it underneath. And the bills are smart. They're like, dude, throw it underneath. We dare you. Don't think you're going to do it. Your eyes are downfield. You work downfield too long.

will play soft, we'll give you some of these early checkdown throws. See if you can do it. See if you can beat it. And he's not going to. So he ends up taking sacks. They come back, next play, sack.

Like, he initially works the right side. It's the second 18. On the first track, he initially works the right side. It's a speed out. He's got bad leverage to start. Like, from the snap, the DB is outside.

The speedout should just be dead to the quarterback. If you could look at it, you could glance at it. And if that DB evens up with your receiver, running now, you can stay with it, but he doesn't. There's no even up. You're off of it. Like, not even a half a second. Off of it.

The hits to the back side, wide open. Is that Samuel? Instead of throwing it, yeah, instead of throwing it, he's trying to run. I said the time before maybe move from the pocket. This time it's like just go to number two, but he got to come off one quicker and you didn't.

And then really, I thought a third down, the third and 19 is, is horrendous. You're at the, what, 33-yard line? You're in field goal range. Sorry, you're 34-yard line. You're in field-go-range. It's 3rd and 19.

You do not have to be a hero on a 3rd-19, on the first series of the game. He has got his tight end out in the flat is an easy gain of 9 to 14 yards, and let's see what happens. I don't know if Bates is going to get it. I don't think Bates is going to get it. don't think Bates is going to get it, but it's going to put you back to the 23, 24-yard line. It's an easy field goal. Let's take some points.

Let's have some success early. The bill's DB 34, and I'm sorry, I don't know names right now, 34 is taking away the deep fit route in the middle of the field from the jump. It's over. 43, Bernard. You could not just force a ball over his head. I know. And the thing is, is like, he's trying to make that throw. And it is a, he is two yards further up, three yards further up, or not there.

It's an excellent throw. I get what he's doing with it. It just you can't make that throw. Bernard takes it away all day. Let me just. Come back second driving. Let me just interject real quickly, because I want to ask you a question, and I don't want to lose this thought on the third and 19.

because to me this is, you know, this is really poor situational football. Third and 19 in this league we know is a long shot at best, and that's even with the really good quarterbacks. And so what we see in this league when you're in field goal range is we see a draw, we see a bubble screen, we see, you know, a quick drop and a checkdown, get 10 yards, turn it into a chip shot field goal 3 to 3. don't you think that that's got to be with a young quarterback, and I'm not suggesting that this didn't happen.

This has to be emphasized before the snap. We are not going for a first down here. You know, if something is wide open and they blow a coverage, fine. But what we really want is we want the checkdown, and we're going to kick a field goal, unless Bates breaks seven tackles and gets 19 yards. And there's another side to this as well. And it's another way that you can explain it because the NFL's changed drastically over the last five, six years on fourth down.

Let's get 14 and see what happens. Oh, right. Yeah, of course. Maybe you're maybe out of fourth and five or fourth and four. Yeah. Let's put us in a situation where we might think about it. Yeah. Let's give us an opportunity to think about it.

But we can't take a sack and get put out of field goal range. And we certainly can't throw an interception where we have point. that you can't take points off the board. That is the thing that the quarterback cannot do, not take points off the board. So that should have been eyes downfield, as soon as you feel Bernard taking away the route. That means your checkdown's open underneath.

He's the underneath coverage. He's dropped into it. The other checkdown see what Bates can get. Maybe he breaks three tackles, and it's a fourth and three. Maybe he gets 16. You can look at the play again. He's getting 10. Yeah, definitely.

he's getting 10. If he breaks a tackle, he's getting 13, 14. So, let's just give it a chance. Like, we've got to give it a chance. It's not, and the thing is, and he made three or four of these plays, they're wake up to NFL plays. And I don't hate that he did it in the fact that maybe he learns from it. But they are wake up to the NFL plays.

This ain't college football where coverage is just shit. The guy's key eyes, guys key routes, guys see things. Learn that. Understand that. So, Jack, the next drive, and I think it's the second nine, and this was, I thought this was concerning. They run hitches on the outside and seams in the inside, which is a really simple concept. And if you have single eye safety or some form of three-deep, or even potentially quarters, which Buffalo is not in. They're in cover two. You can throw the hitch outside. If you have

a cover two or wide split safety, you are throwing seams to check down. Those seams are going to bend inside the safeties all the way to what could even be a hard dig. They are going to cross the face of the inside safeties. So essentially, when you see split safeties with that look, you are looking at the underneath coverage to whatever side you want to work and saying, can I get the ball over the top of the underneath coverage to throw the scene? You're definitely not throwing the hitch. That's a fucking pick. He throws the hitch out to Dotson, and it's like, this is an easy, easy,

Buffalo tells you we're playing two safeties. Work the themes. This is dumb. This one, the first pick, what he's going to learn. This is the kind of thing that frustrates me if I'm coaching. like what are we working why we why we're throwing it's up there well fortunately he didn't throw it well and it was incomplete exactly then he takes a sack um with a coverage coverage coverage coverage coverage rush it wasn't all a lot of the sacks were but this one wasn't

um you get down the next series where they get down the field um i've had he did a really good job down the field, we talked about that. Get to a third and goal at the two-yard line. They're in an RPO. Terry McClure comes across in motion. 23 comes across in motion with him, but bells and goes soft off. The third and two is a walk-in, like, give me touch down if you just throws the RPO to Terry. They're in a stick, and Terry motions across, and nobody covers them the flat.

Nobody. It's a walk-in. Just need to throw the RPO. And then the fourth and two, I hate the fourth and two. this again, it's like we have a rookie quarterback. I like the concept, okay? It's just a little angle-pass concept where you have flat in a corner route and they're falling up with the shallow cross on the backside underneath it.

We're trying to pick to get the shallow cross open. Well, the corner route really is open. I think it's Dotson out on the corner. He really is your only immediate opportunity. He doesn't throw it. You go back and look at how, again, when you watch this play, one, it's a shitty fake to the back. He's got nothing on the fake to the back.

Now, keep in mind, they ran it on third and two, so you could run it here. But you've got to at least hold them with the fake. But my problem really goes to, dude, it's fourth and two. Don't shit the bed and throw it away into the end zone, hoping somebody's going to go sliding into a ball. Run, move, find something. something, do something. This is where you can take a sack. This is where you can run and spin move and see what happens. You have to go off script here. You cannot just lay on one out into the

middle of the end zone where you're not within four yards of any receiver. It's unacceptable. I mean, the pressure is obviously quick. I mean, Robinson, Jr. does a terrible job. Robinson Jr. does a terrible job, but that's the only actual pressure on the play. Step up inside of it, slide up, move out to the right, extend the play. He does have an opportunity to extend this play, in my opinion. I think he does, too. I think it's not in the pocket. I think it's flushing right in getting around Robinson and

who was that. I'm fine with that, but I also think with his ability to throw the ball if he just throws a corner out to touchdown. Can I just go back to third and goal for a second? You think Terry's open on the pass? This is your... Watch it.

The motion guy comes So here's what I think happens. I think what happens is that the trailer with his motion is going to come across and they're going to combo the trailer with whoever's covering the receiver. I think it was probably Dotson to that side running a stickout. I think they messed up the combo and the Bills player over Dotson should have taken the flat and 23 was going to play the hook right inside and would have sat with Dotson. They somehow messed up, I think, the combination between the two.

And yeah, I think Terry's up, and I don't think the trailer's going with him. It's two yards. He's got plenty of room to throw it to the flat, and all Terry's got to do is put the ball off and go away. The other thing, too, is, you know, an RPO is he's got, just so everybody's clear, I've explained this before. An RPO is not a read option. That's quarterback running or running back running. The RPO is either you give it to the running back or you're throwing it, and you've got to

throw it quickly because the linemen are blocking and you can't let him get. downfield illegally. The box here is so loaded too. It's a condensed field. It's a short-yardage situation understood. And that isn't necessarily what a quarterback is completely looking at at the RPO. He's really looking to see whether or not the receiver is going to be open right away to

throw it. I do think in watching this here in the All-22, he can get that to Terry. It's got to be one of those RPO's coolies. where he almost doesn't even fake it to Robinson. There's no even looking at Robinson. He's just throwing it out to Terry and leading him into the end zone. I agree. Now, you also have to keep in mind one other thing.

I don't know if anyone discussed this play. I don't know if it's an RPO. Well, you said it was an RPA. Well, yeah, it looks like an RPO. You have two receivers on the backside running rounds. Do I understand how they called it? No. Do I understand if the enemy said, hey, you're giving the ball to the back here? I don't know. I mean, they could just instead of having receivers block, have them run rounds.

It looks RPO-ish. It would have been, it would have worked very well throwing the ball to Terry in an RPO. But I don't, I can't tell you with the 100% uncertainty that that's an actual RPO. Yeah, I can't tell them looking at it either. The only thing that would be a. giveaway that it is is Terry immediately looks. Looks. So Terry thinks there's a chance he's getting the ball. And he knows he's open. Yeah. Okay.

And you went through the fourth and goal. And you didn't like the decision to go for it. I actually was okay with it. I mean, it was fourth and goal at the two. At that point, to your point, like, this wasn't the moment where I really thought they were in trouble. because they had actually had some chunk plays and it moved the ball a little bit. And I don't know, like even if they don't get it here, I love when our defense lines up against somebody, you know, deep in their own territory and it was raining.

And I remember at that moment, I'm like, I think I'd go for it right here. And I didn't have a problem with it. But you would have taken the three. I think I, well, the percentage that you get a fourth and two with a rookie quarterback is actually, 37%. So it's... You know what? You know what I hate, though, in these situations?

I just... I like when the field is spread. And I like when, you know, even empty with... And with him, have we seen a quarterback draw yet in three games? I don't think we have. And I don't know. Was he being... Yeah, exactly.

Was he being spied? on this play, I don't know. He's under center. He's under center, which almost to me is a dead giveaway that they're going to throw it with them. But anyway, go ahead, continue. Yeah, that is something we will talk about later today as well. Okay. Okay.

That's essentially the first half. Well, he does have the pick again, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah, he's got another pick coming up. The pick where he throws the ball laid out on the flat. I don't, this is probably, so the next interception is probably both ways on the quarterback. You have an unblocked four-man rush. It's a zone blitz.

There's zone pressure, but Buffalo's bringing four. So they bring a detackle over the center. They bring a backer over the guard, and then they bring an outside rusher. And the outside rusher comes completely free. You had five to box four. again, I'm not, I don't know how they're calling their line slides or if they're just throwing hot. Because this is, if you're not going to change your line slide, this is hot because you don't have enough to block this side. Right. I was going to ask you that.

So you're three. You've got to bring your center. You got to bring your center the other way. You got to bring them the other way. Or you keep Gibson in. In the world I live in, where if you see, if you see even by alignment where Buffalo lined up, you'd just make it any L call, like Lucky. Las Vegas, any L call would change your line slide from a right slide to a left slide. You just turn your center the other way. That's all they need to do. And that might be on the quarterback.

Well, I don't know if they're putting that on the quarterback or not, but that said, if you're throwing Red 7 hot route, that ball better be now. Hong route means he's unblocked. You have an unblocked free rusher if you're throwing a hot route. Unblocked. We cannot block this dude. That ball's got to be out.

Welcome to the NFL. We can't, we can't, we're not going to sit here and say, this is what I think happened. I know he's coming off the left, but I still might be able to get the ball down the field a little bit. Oh, shit, I'm not going to. Let me throw it in the flat now. Oh, picks.

It's unblocked. You're in a bad situation. Take a game. Take a positive. It would have been a two-yard gain and he'd have gotten hit. But the ball wouldn't have been picked if he throws it right now. It doesn't look like he knows there's going to be a free rush. Well, if you look at alignment, I mean, they're out leveraged initially.

Does Gibson have any responsibility to pick up the free rusher? No, it looks like they're in a scat or a five-man protection. Right. That's why I remember it, right? I don't have it in front of me. Yeah. I mean, if you look at Kansas City, if you look at Kansas City and Andy Reid over the last 10 years, they like five men.

They rent a lot of five-man. protection. They'll throw hot. And the other benefit to Kansas City is Travis Kelsey would have been on that five-yard stick route and he would have sat and turned it inside and Mahomes would throw the stick route to Kelsey. Yeah. You know what I mean? He would have found a way to create space

in a weirdly covered situation. That ball would go into Kelsey inside with Mahomes. I want to just point one other thing out on this play too because I didn't in my recap. You know, there's a free rusher. the throw's a bad throw because he's getting hit. It's also a bad throw coolly, I think. He is a smallish quarterback. Let's not beat around the bush here. There are bigger men and he has to throw over them. So he's got to throw hot and it's got to be out right away and that makes the free rushers, you know,

the free rushers attempt, you know, it eliminates that because the ball's already out. But the ball is thrown inaccurately because he can't see. You can't throw it over him. And by the way, Micah Hyde is one of the best, you know, playmakers anticipating, you know, that's why he's got so many big plays in his career because it's not because he's super fast. But it's a terrible throw because he can't see over the guy. So anyway, I want to just point that out. Because Gibson, even though he doesn't hit him late, it doesn't hit him early on the hot route.

It doesn't mean that it needs to end in a pick. Oh, if you have any concern that Micahide is going to have a chance to play the ball, throw it over his head out of bounds. Right. He doesn't, though, have a concern, which is a problem. He thinks he can still throw that ball. They react fast up here, Joe would say. Up here.

Up here. Up here in the league. Up here in the league. They will react, they will react fast. All right. What else? What's next? We'll get to his next.

The next pick. You know, the other thing is they take the ball down the field in the third quarter. Running the football. Running the football. Mm-hmm. Interesting. That they're running. Yeah, I know.

And he gets to a second, Nate, you're trying to run a post route with Bates and then an out and up with Samuel. We'll be it. The out and up never has a chance to win. The DB never bites on the out. Now, maybe he's trying to throw it out up and then steam it inside, but it's a throw you can't make. The one thing I will say about this, Samuel can score here.

He just sits and waits for the ball. He lets the DB pick it. This should be contested, a breakup, or an offensive touchdown. Come back to the goddamn ball. Like, help your guy. I don't like the throw. I don't think it's a good idea. But Samuel does nothing to attack the ball.

Either he's trying to throw it with some pressure inside and lead his receiver back inside, where he can go get it. Or he's trying to almost set him down on the goal line, like a back shoulder but an inside shoulder. Either way, I don't like to throw. It's still on the quarterback. But your receiver, I promise, I'm 41. Dude ain't picking that ball off.

Like, I will at least go attack that ball. That's Travis White. He's pretty good. He is pretty good, but watch the play and tell me that Samuel can't go attack the ball, or at least make it break it up. You just think he's got forward momentum going where, you know, I don't know. Oh, my God.

He's about as shifty as it gets to NFL. Phenomenal athlete. All right. I'll give you that. I'll give you that. What I want to ask you on this interception is what were his options? Run. It was right now, like, I'm telling you right now, run.

Yeah, no doubt. Or as soon as you don't, like, as soon as you don't, like, as soon as that, again, I should have kept this in front of me, but I'm not at home. As soon as that out and up, as soon as the corner doesn't take any of the bait on the out, which he doesn't. He's stock. Work the other side of the field to run. Yeah, it's such a great point. The second eight. Like, we can't throw a pick here.

And the whole left side. It's a great play by white. It's a great play by white, but work the other side. By the way, also on this drive, they did have an RPO with a two hitch on the left side, and he gave it to the back. Again, what I think is an RPO. The nickel plays run all the way. The inside hitch is wide open for the R.P. He missed that.

I thought he made a lot of back foot throws. I think he rushed everything. He is out of rhythm. He is rushing everything he's doing at this point in the game. Which makes sense because you come back after an interception and you go sack, sack. The second sack is the next year of the great tackles. He has a chance for the ball to come out underneath right now. Three, four-yard games.

Boom, boom. Ball out. Got to come out. Would bother? those elastic. Real quickly on that drive. What bothered me is that the drive starts off with Robinson for 7, Robinson for 13, and then, you know, he had already had some big runs on the first drive that ended an interception.

It's clear now that your quarterback is either holding it too long or the offensive line. We'll get to all of that here coming up. But you got a problem dropping them back. I just, I hated that. I wanted to see, I didn't think at 16 nothing at that point that they could win the game. I felt like it should have been more than 16 to nothing. But it's like, if you're going to get back into it, you're not going to get back into it dropping him back. Not if he's going to just keep taking sack after sack after sack.

And I just thought, I thought Robinson rips off 20 yards and two runs. It's like, let's keep going. Let's just keep running the ball and it's where your defense kept you alive for a couple drives in the second half. Yeah. So now we go back to let's just score three on fourth and two.

Let's not throw a pick down in Philgo range again and we're at 166. Now, is that a two-score game? Depends on what kind of scores, I guess. Are you talking? They're only getting field goals at the four-score game. Yeah, but are we now on the next drive that ends with the Gibson Fumble?

Well, then the Gibson Fumble kills you. I mean, I got that, but... Because they eventually, when he got sacked, after they ran, on the second drive of the third quarter, Robinson, rips off a couple of runs, and then it's sacks, sacks, you know, whatever, and punt. And then you come back and you

fumble. Yeah, and then, and then Washington got the fourth down stop when Duran Payne knocked down Josh Allen's pass. I think that was the next drive. And then Gibson fumbles on that next drive, and then by the time you get the ball back, next it's 23 to nothing.

And there's another interception. And then the last interception is just such another welcome to the NFL moment. What a play, though. True. Athletic. I mean, he don't see that play very often.

And I was trying to jump and throw it over him, and he's vertically challenged on the throw. The crazy thing is on that third and five, and he not just run for the first down. If he's out of the pocket, he usually makes one miss.

Just run. You know, the old pump fake works really good, too. If he were to pump that ball, a dude was going hands up, eight feet in the air, 10 feet in the air. Pump it and go. I think your point, though,

it's such a great, like I think on Monday, I said, look, this is a one or two out of ten play that's made. However, it's still not a good decision when the dude's 6-6 and was a basketball player and has some hops. So I don't know that he can run for the five yards, but he certainly wasn't going to throw it over him.

No one else can tackle him inside of five yards. Here's the thing is it's not a bad decision. I don't hate the decision. It's a poor execution in the situation. The guy's open. He's just got to get the ball over. somebody who's got a 38-inch vertical and 6-6. Do I mean that...

Do I think in that moment, how it has the ability to process... So he had a 38-inch vertical, and he's 6-foot-6, and he's going to jump and bat this fall down into his own hands, like a cat, and then catch it. And also not even just that, he'll just finish with the pick-six. In that moment, no. I was like, just get it over him. come on, get over.

It's not the worst decision. The guy's open. It's off script. He's not a terrible idea. It doesn't work. Yeah, to me it's like, I mean, don't take this the wrong way, people, please. But it had been such a rough day already. And to me, like, it's like when you watch, like, U.L. Monroe play, you know, an SEC team,

like Auburn or something like that. You got just a smaller kind of quarterback playing big men who are athletic, and those things happen all the time in those games. And it just, that's the thing that I don't think I've said it this week. I loved what he did in Denver. Don't get me wrong. He looked small in this game to me, and maybe he was shrinking throughout the game because he kept getting hit.

I mean, I don't know if you know these numbers. He was sacked nine times. First of all, nine sacks and four interceptions. First time it's happened in 28 years in the NFL that a quarterback's been sacked nine times and thrown four picks. It was the second most pressures on a quarterback percentage-wise of the attempts since next-gen started to keep this stat. He was hit 15 times. and it just seemed as the game went on, it was plucky tryhard guy,

and I love that about Sam, love that about Taylor too. And he's got a much different, you know, physical ability than Taylor. I'm not comping the two at all. I mean, he can throw the football. He can really throw the football. But, man, he looked small at the end. And on this play, it looked like U.L. Monroe against Auburn's defense. Exactly what it looked like.

I still, this game doesn't turn me off of howl. I think this is a great learning moment. You go through the picks. The first one is bad. I mean, we understand that. The second one to the flat, you can't make that throw. It's the right guy. It's just the wrong timing.

The third one, I don't like the throw. It could have been a incomplete pass in a lot of situations. And then the fourth one is, again, like they're not just he's not just back there just lost he's got a concept he's got some idea of what he's doing he's struggling some and he's got to learn what he can and can't do in the NFL because we're not playing Louisiana Monroe this week you know there's no Arkansas state

other than Denver might be I didn't feel like he was lost you know out of the nine sacks probably six of a moron him yeah I was going to ask you so you think six of a But they're not good up front. Right. But here's the other crazy thing with your stats, which has never happened. I guarantee you it's never happened when a back has at least 10 carries and averages 7 yards of carry,

which should lead us right to the enemy. Right, which I want to get to. The other thing, too, is the reason you typically don't see nine sacks and four interceptions is that a quarterback is taking the sacks to avoid throwing the interceptions. they both you know it just that doesn't happen a lot

usually it's like oh my god he took so many sacks like Carson Wentz got sacked nine times last year against the Eagles well it's because he didn't want to throw picks and so real quickly before we get to

Bianami because I did ask you to evaluate Bianami as well so was that just a random number that you threw out there of the nine sacks did you actually you know, make notes that six of them were unscated. I didn't make notes on the last few sacks because you go to the next drive after the pick six

and he gets sacked twice in a row. Would you have pulled him in the game? No. I didn't ever think he was bad enough that you should pull him. It wasn't about being bad enough. It was about taking a beating. It was about taking a beating. No.

He's going to take a beating and learn. He looks capable of taking the beating. You know, the biggest beating was on the third and 18 square of the scramble for 18 yards where he doesn't want to get down. I know. Excellent scramble. And, you know, as you write that down and you're watching it in real time, like, dude, you can't take that hit. You've got the first down. Inside of it is we're probably not going to score on fourth and two, so you might as well try to get it in now.

I guess. But that was creating first and goal. I mean, to your point. No, he's got to get down. He's like he's so, the first down was, what was the down and distance on that? Like 32, something like that? On the scramble for the first down? Yeah, something like that.

I'll look it up right now. It was such a, I felt the same way. First of all, it was another, you know, near sack. I mean, he just got out of it. But it was. Oh, by the way, by the way, he had, like, he had a, throw in front of him. It was good to not throw deep to the right. He had like a post

corner concept to the right. But the shallow cropped. It was a second and one. It was a second and one that he scrambled on. So they dropped him back on second and one. Right in front of him. He could have thrown the ball. Okay. But man, he took a beating. He took a beating. Yeah.

Second and one, like he very easily and perhaps should have been sacked. He made a great play to avoid it. But it's like, what are we doing here? Well, I mean... No, no, he should have been tagged. He should have thrown a shallow cross for first down.

It should have just been ball out to the crosser at four yards in front of his face. So this seems to bother you as much as anything else is the things that he missed and the miss reads. So here's where I'm fine with this with the rookie quarterback, and I will go back to Kyle Shannon and with a great year with Robert Griffin. Read your first concept if you don't like it and you don't feel comfortable getting to number three. Run. Run now. Become your own checkdown. But how can slide? Yeah. So when you run now, you better slide. He could see the end zone, man. He was trying to score. It was a great run. I mean, I'm watching it right here again. And it's like, he's a baller man.

And he does make people miss. But it was very close to being, I mean, he's lucky he's not sacked. And by the way, it's then, it's then third and ten from second and one. And you're putting it on him because he did have the shallow cross open. But what a run. What a great run. And then he takes a pounding at the end. The U.L. Monroe quarterback took an absolute pounding by the big, bad Georgia defense at the end of that. I mean, he got smoked at the end of it.

Probably don't want to do that one again. Right. Oh, I don't know. But watch that stramble and then tell me on the last pick that he doesn't find a way to get five yards. Yeah. You make do's miss. Yeah. Well, like you said, I mean, maybe he only gets four and you go for it on fourth and one.

All right. I mean, up here, they can tackle two. What was Sam's grade? Oh, it's in the D range for sure. I wouldn't call this a fail by any means. He passed. It just wasn't good. I gave it enough.

He got a lot of red marks on paper. I gave it enough. But the good news is he had an A last week, so we're still alive in the class. Yeah, we're alive. I guess my point is... I know what you're saying. I think there's some mistakes. But I think that there's...

But even in the mistakes, I think there's a lot to learn. I think he'll learn a lot from this. By the way, speaking of learning and things, one of my favorite things I've heard in football this week, I love, first of all, I love Dion Sanders as a head coach. Me too. I love him. Yeah. His guys love him. I love him.

But my favorite thing, it watches press comforts after that Colorado game. So did I. And he's asked, did you think you guys needed this to humble you? Did you think you needed this to learn from? And he said, do you think you need to get hit by a car? When you're driving fast, we can find ways to humble ourselves and others. We can learn from good things. You're bouncing along all cocky.

Do you think you need to get run over by a car? No. No. No need to get run over by a car, do you? We didn't need to lose. He's very quick on his feet. Very quick on his feet. I'm buying a Colorado buffalo's hat.

I love Dion. They're going to be good, too. He's going to be good. Well, you saw the end of that press conference. right, where he said, you better get me now. You better get me now because this is the worst we're going to be. Yeah, keeping receipts. And then, by the way, yesterday he was asked about this five-star corner,

Cormani McClain. Cormani McLean flipped his recruitment from Miami to Colorado when Deion got the job. He hasn't played yet, and Dion was asked about it again, and he went off. And I'll play it at the end of the show for everybody when we trail out. But he basically said, he said, well, when he starts showing up to meetings on time, when he starts watching film, when he starts taking football seriously, when it starts to matter to him, then we can start putting them on the field. He said, but I watch, I know how much a film everybody's watching. And if I were to put him on the field with as much film as he's watching, I'd be the fool. I mean, to me, like I listened to that.

I played it this morning on radio and I'm like, if I'm the father of that Cormani McLean, I'm on the phone with him saying, this is the guy you not only want to play for, you're going to play for, and you better start watching some goddamn film and doing what he tells you to do. Because you're blowing it.

Now, whether or not it needed to be public or not, I don't know. I just, he's the kind of guy, for me, if my son's a five-star player, I'm definitely going on that recruiting trip. He's going on that recruiting trip. Cooley, he's going to have top three to five recruiting classes for the next couple of years. They better get him now. They better get them now because they're not good enough for the Oregon's and the

U.S. season, they're really good teams. Not yet, but in a couple years they're going to be. they think they are because of him. I know. Not because he's their coach, because he makes him believe that they are. Yeah, but... I love him.

I love him. That was an absolute ass kicking. I mean, they had no chance. And their best player didn't play, but it doesn't matter. They had no chance. Oregon's at a different level than Colorado right now. But if he stayed... By the way, one of the questions is if he stays there,

because a lot of people think he'll end up in the SEC see next year within two years. You're not going to stay there. By the way, I think he's more of a college coach and an NFL coach. What do you think? I think he could transcend to do whatever he wanted to do. He seems like a very good manager of a team. All right, let's get to Eric Bienemy and whatever else you have in your notebook.

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where they allow you to do that. All right, I asked you to give me a film breakdown of Sam Howl, which you just did. I also asked for your thoughts on the game that Eric Bion. enemy called because last week you raved about it. I think everybody did. What did you think this week? So I think that he got away from the rhythm of the game plan that he probably intended. Now, some of the good stuff, like I like some of the creative stuff in terms of how he's running the ball. I like some of the things he mixes in. Like early in the game, they run what's like a split zone. So the running back, it's a zone run play.

bring the tight end across the back side to block the backside defense but you also use this fly sweet motion to hold the front side outside so you really create a cutback way because he's got some good stuff in the run game you've got some good stuff throwing the ball down the field like the first down the field throw to bait is kind of that like the receiver on the outside right running vertically towards the goalpost and then ends up sitting down and bait kind of runs inside of him but then bananas back out and he's wide open we've got some stuff that he definitely knows

what he's doing as far as play creation. I will give him that. What I didn't like about this game plan, and I think it's probably that some of it got away from him. The quarterback really never got going. And if you look at the Denver game, I was so complimentary of how many screens they ran. They had zero.

I pretty sure they had zero first half screenplays. Zero. and they end up on a third and 22 running a screen and get like 18 yards which was called back by a penalty right that one yeah and then they come back and they throw a screen to Gibson and this where it'd be in him he's like shut the fuck up cooey

we're on a screen our guy fumbles but they really they really didn't mix up buffalo's defensive line rhythm and the rhythm to get after the quarterback they put how in a drop back situation static for most of the game.

And you can't even look like one sprint right, and it's a completion to Terry. Now, I'm not suggesting that you're going to sprint out 14 times in a game. That's unrealistic. But moving the pocket for your quarterbacks is really beneficial. They had zero boot action. And I don't think there was any boot. There's no screens. There's no early, like, early, what, give it play.

Pop it out to McLaren. Let's just see if we can get him going for four. No bubble stuff. Just no simple easy throws, easy rhythm quarterback, get on the move, throws, easy rhythm, screen throws. It was static. It was static throughout the game. And I said he could have run the ball much more.

So I think my bet to you, Kevin, would be he probably wishes he could recall the game. They probably had some stuff he didn't get to. And he would say, well, yeah, we ran 22 plays in the first half. Yeah, I had some stuff I wanted to get to. We didn't get to it. We've got to get some, we've got to complete third downs. We're one for nine, third down conversions. We've got to be able to move the sticks to get to another set of downs.

I didn't love the way it was called. It was just bad offensively. I think he struggles a lot. Like, I think they struggle a lot without a lot. And some of the run stuff, like, they're trying to go gun zone run stuff, it's not good. They are not getting enough push up front to get good run stuff. But that said, Robinson's excellent at finding ways to get yards in tight spaces.

Right. And then one more thought, and then you would have to go add this up, but this is just a feel thing because I didn't count it. When Robinson's out of the game and Gibson's in the game, if I'm coaching against them at a first and second down situation, I'm yelling play action. Gibson had two carries. Yeah. he's in the game on at least five or six run action passes early in the game. He actually,

he had more snaps. He had more snaps in the game than Robinson only had 20 of the 54 snaps. Gibson had, hold on more of my notes here from the other day. But Gibson's not getting the carries. I know. Robinson is getting the carries. Yeah, the Robinson 20 snaps, Gibson 33. I just, yes.

They're also in a lot more past situations in this game, especially in the second half. Right. I'm going to wait to ask you a question or two and mention what we said. You can ask me now, but my point would be take into account relevant run downs in the game. First and 10, second and five, second and six, second seven. Real relevant 50-50 downs. And then I would say in those relevant 50-50, 50 downs, you're probably 80% of your run-action passes with Gets, 75, 70, something like that.

I could be wrong. It just felt that way. It fell that way last week, too. So I'd be careful with that. But like I said, I think the game got away from him in terms of his game plan. I wouldn't say that they just reverted to day one offense, which I've seen teams have to do. I think he tried to stick with what they practiced and what they went through, but his rhythm wasn't there. There wasn't a rhythm for Hal. The enemy didn't stay in rhythm. I didn't like it.

I didn't like the way the quarterback played. I didn't like the way the offensive coordinator called it. And I just think that they have enough talent around that quarterback that you just got to get the ball out of a Sands quick. Find ways. One man shows create things, create rhythm. He did not do that. I think one of the reasons we didn't see as many screens this week is that Buffalo is faster, smarter than Denver, and they played the screen last week against the Raiders a few times very well. And the fact that they had run so many screens in Denver, you know, they probably went away from that tendency. But they were very effective plays in Denver. That's my guess, because I talked about this on Friday, that Buffalo was going to be a harder team to screen than Denver was, because I watched the Raiders game

and they were not effective with screens. You said earlier, you said that, you know, he's not taking the checkdown early enough. And then you also said, which I remember you saying specifically about Robert way back in the day, the checkdown needs to be him. He's got to go one read. And if it's not there, we're going checkdown

and the checkdown's him running because, if not, there's probably going to be a bad result, but the run could be a very good result. These, to me, like the checkdowns especially, look, they've got receivers that threaten a defense. So a lot of these checkdowns that I've seen that he hasn't taken. Remember he had one last week on a third down that they were off the field on or they kicked a field goal on.

They're wide open. And Gibson was wide open on the checkdown. Like, to me, I would think this is. is a very fixable thing. Right? I think it's a very fixable thing as well. I think it's a, what tells you the down the field

throw is dead? And how can we, how can we understand that a half a second quicker? Like, you're looking at safety placement, you're looking at where corners are filling, you're looking at underneath, like, depending on the concept, you're looking at underneath coverage, you're usually working half the

the field. Like, what tells us? you it's dead. And how do we understand, hey, this is, this has got no legs. Get off it. He's got to, there's got to be a tail for him. He's just seen a lot right now, Kev. And the thing is, he knows he can throw the ball down the field. And I know he can throw the ball down the field. And it's fun to throw the ball down the field. But at some point, you've got to know it's dead. And he just doesn't yet. who specifically if somebody did stand out did you think struggled the most on the offensive line

I don't think they're effective as a group up front I don't know if Cosme didn't look like he played incredibly well really I just don't see him as like a stout consistent offensive line I think they think it's just I think it's like C minus across the board I just think this guy

Wiley is terrible I'm, yeah, Wiley Cable. I'm not sitting and grading every player. I'm watching. I know. I'm lazy, so I'm watching right now. I'm watching the quarterback and thinking about the play call. I know. Maybe next week, if there are more sacks, I'll ask you to do the O-line.

So I wanted to... There's going to be more sacks. I wanted to mention to you that Rivera this week had some interesting comments, which he always does. He just talks too much, period. But after the game, and I don't have it in front of me, so I'm just going to paraphrase. He was talking about Sam, and he said, look, we have to evaluate what we're doing as well. And then next we'll get to the evaluation of the players. What that said to me, and I believe it's actually what he meant, is that we can't be at this four to five one ratio and pass to run.

I mean, it's 36 to 7 in Denver. I didn't have a problem with it. You didn't have a problem with it. It worked. Arizona in the first half, it didn't work, and that game was at risk. And this week, you know, it was 17-5 in the first half in terms of called pass plays to run. So I think Ron is going to say to Eric, look, we can't have, you know, a quarterback. He's at a record pace for sacks, the sacks and combined turnovers.

The sacks at a record pace, most sacks. ever in the first three weeks of his season, or since 2005, David Carr in Houston. And so to me that means we got a guy that was averaging seven yards per carry, and he's been a load to bring down. We've got to be a little bit more balanced. What do you think it meant? You didn't hear it, but I just shared it with you. Do you think...

Well, I think Ron's definitely suggesting that they need to be more balanced. Think back to the end of last year before the offensive coordinator search, where he basically suggested we want to run the ball 80% of the time. I know, I know, but that changed. But here's the crazy thing about it is if I'm Eric Biotr, I'm basically like taking the back of my hand and flipping my chin at it. Like, no, this is my job to be the offensive coordinator, and I got an opportunity to show what I can do with a young quarterback in developing an offense.

And I'm not going to pound my head against a fucking wall. running the ball. Now, they did run the ball effectively, but I don't know how that goes through the year. I think it's a good conversation early to have is, hey, look, we've got to find a way to stay more balance, but at the same time, you literally, if you're

Eric B. Enemy, and you went and watched the film of this game, it's like telling a receiver not to drop the ball. Right, like he should be able to come to that conclusion. Very, very simple conclusion. We needed to say more balance running the ball. We needed to get the ball out of the quarterback's hands quicker. Granted, Buffalo plays a screen great.

But there are so many different kinds of screens. Of course. And the different kinds of things you can create that are essentially screens. They're not always like three linemen letting two defensive linemen through. And then turn, it's not the old school. There's a lot of versatility that they didn't utilize this weekend Buffalo that they showed on film last week against Denver. You've got to get your quarterback comfortable And if more running is good early

If boots good They didn't boot They didn't screen They didn't move their quarterback They didn't change the location of their quarterback They set them back in the pocket And let him take a fucking beating Right

With what I think is a C-minus offensive line Now he ain't Joe Montana And he ain't Patrick Mahomes so we can't just sit back and throw five to seven yards stick route. By the way, the other thing Buffalo did a really good job of is any time that there were a short to mid-range complementary route, they took away the mid-range and said, throw the short route. We're not giving you the ball 10 yards down the field.

Throw the short one. Yeah, remember I asked you last week if people in the Denver game, I felt like people were open Dotson in particular for the first two weeks, but when I watched the All-22, you know, to get ready for you, I noticed that they were covered well for a lot of this game. The receivers were covered very well. They did not get open. A lot of guys were not open.

Yeah. A couple of the sacks were combined coverage sacks. I will agree with that. The other thing Ron said this week on Monday, the day after the game, and this to me is the most interesting in Tommy and I spent some time on this yesterday because I've had this hunch that this is all about that a big part of what they're doing offensively is they're developing Sam, you know, and that's what a big part of this season is about. And by the way, for Bienomi to kind of, you know, put his

stamp on the kind of offense he wants to be. He comes from Andy Reid, Andy Reid's heavy pass to run ratio. And so Ron said, you know, he's. We talked about, you know, giving them time to grow and develop. And then he was asked about the run game on Sunday and should they have leaned on it. And he said, well, in hindsight, 20, you know, hindsight 2020 is okay. Yeah. And then in that answer, he said, again, the one thing we do talk about is just trying to get the opportunity for Sam. The game was close all the way up to a certain point.

Could have come together. And then there was a follow-up question on, is it more about getting how the experience or is it, you know, doing what you need to do to try to win the game? Or was it because you were down by a bunch you were throwing it? And he said, I think it's a combination of both. He said, the sooner we really feel like he develops and grows, the more opportunities we're going to get. He's a very young player. I know he's a second-year player, but this is only his fourth game. So there is leniency with that. There's a little bit of growing pains that we're going to have to deal with, et cetera, et cetera. So I would ask you, like if you were on this team

and you believed in Sam, because the players certainly seemed to believe in Sam, but this isn't like Dwayne Haskins, it's not Dwayne Haskins for a number of reasons, for a number of reasons, but beyond that, it wasn't a good team either. This is a good team. This is a good roster. They've got good defense. They've got a good defense. They've got a top 10 kind of a defense. They have some skill position players that are good. With decent quarterback play, this could be a nine or ten win team. Not a championship contender, but a playoff team in the NFC.

So what I'm asking you is, would there be a point as a player where the focus on developing the young quarterback as a priority would bother you? yeah no doubt that bothered me if I'm Jonathan Allen two years ago

when we can't find a quarterback it would continue to bother me today I would understand where we're at today but yeah does it bother me that I had

nine starting quarterbacks when I played and we switched offenses four times yeah hated it it does but it's

not just, this is where they are now. They have Howell. Who were they going to go? I think they could have got Baker. Where are we going to get a quarterback? The problem is you start as the head coach without a quarterback, your primary goal is to find one not to be starting a fifth round draft pick rookie four years later. Who you need to develop?

Fifth round. You're way late on it. You're way too late to the party here. But if you're John Allen and you believe in Sam, like you believe that it makes sense to develop him and wait it out and be patient because it's going to produce a big payoff at the end, are you willing to go through these growing pain games where you're getting your ass kicked and the defense, you know, whatever. I mean, Josh Allen made some plays in this game. I'm not saying the defense was great in the game. certainly weren't on third down. But what if you believe in Sam as a defense, as Terry McClearn or as John Allen?

Are you then willing to stick it out here? You're under contract for a few years. This is where I am, Cab if I'm a player right now, but this is where I'm at. Well, Jacoby Burset is a veteran that, you know, is more of a known and played pretty well last year in Cleveland. They didn't get it done, okay? They didn't have the same defense that they have this year. My God, have you seen the Cleveland defense this year? But, okay, whatever, you answer the question.

Yeah, I mean, I'm fine with it. I'm not, like, you thought he was an awful quarterback performance. Anyone that watched it can see was an awful quarterback performance. My suggestion is that I saw, I see a guy that can grow through a poor quarterback's performance. Did he need to get run over by a car? No. Did he? Yes. He got run over by a car. He's fine. He needs to look both ways before he crosses the street. Like he's not blind in his right eye. I don't see a guy that's just dead out there. It's not, I don't see that either. I mean, he was great last week. Trust me, I made this very clear on Monday. If I'm John Allen, or if I'm, if I'm, I better, have my defensive-minded head coach find a way to get off the fucking field on third down. Right.

Because they got their ass kicked on third down. Right. Did they get their ass kicked on third down because of them or because of Josh Allen and Steph Diggs in Buffalo? Because of them. Tell me why. They tried multiple different things. Do you want to go through?

Let's go through the third downs. Okay. First third and ten after two big decisions. offensive stops. They play two men. Remember that Allen can't run. There's nobody with even eyes on Allen. I'm not sure what Chase Young is doing on that play. He gets shipped by the tight end and then he's slowly wandering up the field and Alan's running. Yeah, I did notice that. I mean, pain was close to a sack, but that is Allen, but like we need to replace, need to have brush integrity. We're going to play two men. We're going to play straight two men, two safety deep, man, everybody

else, we better have some rush-laying integrity. So was it Chase that didn't have the rush-length integrity? I don't know what Chase is doing. It's hard to say. I mean, not sure. Good shit by the tight inning, just get floss. Third Nate, after two more, good stops. Sweat misses a sack. The old pump bait got him. Now digs his off script.

Okay, yeah, it is Allen. But it's Montess Wet. Just go sack him. He had a chance to just go hit him. That was a... That was a great throw. You know, third nine, they end up getting a stop. After Knox really dropped a touchdown on it. Oh, right, I forgot about that.

On a really good throw, they hold them to a field goal. Um, third and two on the second drive. They don't squeeze an in and out on the slot. They run like that little whip in and out. Cameron Curl and old 57 just sit there and let him sit right in the middle of them. Barton. You know? They do get off the field on that drive.

They had an interception opportunity. You then give up a touchdown on the first play, the third drive. Yeah, what happened on that play? Who catches a touchdown? Gabe Davis. Oh, no. Gabe Davis. It was cover two.

By the way, it's after a 23-yard punt return. When you're playing the bill, you can't lose on special teams. Right. Can't lose on teams. It's a great route. He's running like that angle in corner. And the safety just squats on it way too long and doesn't run with him. It's literally just the safety's got to go make that play.

You know they're going to take a shot. It's a big punt return. Your side of the field. The one I hated. is the first third down of the fourth drive. After you go for fourth and two, you get two run stops, you have them backed up. It's a third and seven. They run an option route on the right side.

Well, I'm pretty sure it's St. Juist is playing sort of heads up. Yeah, it was. Well, he's got Montez Sweat dropping inside of him. He has inside help. He gets double stick and gets broke off. and gives up an out route it's definitely an option they're running a choice or an option

route in that situation the only place you can't get beat is outside you have inside help. How are you getting beat outside? And I literally at that moment wrote on the topic, Fuller's your slot, St. Juice's your outside corner, Manuel Brown's your other outside corner. I don't like Fuller outside. I do like Fuller in the slot. I don't like St. Juice in the slot.

I do like St. Juice outside. I think it's an easy situation. I don't know why it's not done. We talked about this last year, too. I think Fuller's a better spot. But that's a thing, Jus, gives that up. You know, they get later to a third and eight on the fourth drive. And it's a two-man combination.

I think it's digs. They end up catching, like, a corner or like an out route, like 15-yard-out route. Right. And third and eight. Yeah. Who's 12? Number 12 runs, like, a deep corner route. literally at three guys on defense go deep

and nobody's covering underneath. Nobody. And it's St. Juice running with the corner route and he's got corner and safety help over the top. He's the inside nickel guy. He's got two guys helping him over the top and he just bales and runs with the go route or the vertical route.

Right. And leaves. Diggs. It's wide open underneath. Yeah. I mean, it's just Buffalo basically did what they wanted to do. I mean, they end up getting a couple stops to start the second half.

And Fuller gets a big. Good runs up on third and two, and then paying bat the ball on a fourth down and gives them a chance there at 16-0. But it's like they tried everything. They tried bringing a five-man pressure. They tried multiple versions of zone coverage. Allen's really good. And they failed in coverage.

And when you fail in coverage, he's going to find a way to get the ball to his guys. And if you try to put extra guys in coverage, he's going to run. And you just have to be more on the money when you're playing talent. And you weren't. The thing is frustrating. And this is, I feel like we do this a lot of years. Always like third and eight, third and nine, third and ten, third and thirteen. Why are we giving up first time?

Right. And in that situation, you've invested everything into a D-line. Right. No, I know. Alan, sweat, young, get home. It's not always, it's really not a havoc wreaking scare you to death, third nine, D-line. I don't know why it's not, but it isn't. Part of me when I watch football now, it's like I watch teams that I think are really good on defense,

and it just can, it just doesn't hold up forever. especially when you're playing teams with elite quarterbacks. You've got to score. Your best defense against elite quarterbacks is staying on the field on offense. It doesn't matter how good of a defense you have. You didn't change your mind about Sam Hal this week, and I didn't either. I mean, because I have last week to look back on. If I didn't have last week to look back on, then I'd be a little bit concerned right now after what I saw Sunday.

defensively, I believe in this defense. I think it's a really good defense. I want more takeaways. I want more havoc wreaking. And I think Duran's the one guy that's done that more than anybody else. But I also, with that, have this expectation that against the, you know, Josh Allen, which is this year on the schedule, the most elite quarterback they'll face. Now, Tua and the dolphins, they're going to face.

later in the year. But as good as their defense is, like if they were playing Miami this week, I just assume they're still going to give up 30 because offense beats defense in 2023. It's just a different game. All right. You did enough today.

Great job. Appreciate it. We'll talk next week. Sure will, buddy. Thank you. All right. We are done for the day. Back tomorrow with Tommy.

You mentioned last week that Cormani seeing the field was up to Cormani. I wonder if you could elaborate on what you want to see him do. Did he help his case? Study, prepare. Late against him. Study, prepare, be on time for meetings. Show up to the during meetings.

Understand what we're doing as a scheme. Want to play this game. Desire to play this game. Desire to be the best in this game at practice in the film room and on your own free time. You do know that I check film time for each player. upon the week. Thursday, I need film times from the whole staff so I can see who's been preparing. And that's just not about Kamani. That's about a multitude of them. So if I don't see that, that you would be a fool to put somebody out there and there unprepared. Can't do it. Won't do it,

can't do it. I'm old school. I'm sorry.