The Kevin Sheehan Show - Cooley "Film" On Daniels & McCarthy

Episode Date: April 13, 2024

Kevin opened with thoughts on Adam Schefter's comments on the "Trap & Dive" podcast that it's safe for Washington Commanders' fans to order Jayden Daniels' jerseys. After that, Chris Cooley with "film breakdowns" of LSU's Daniels and Michigan's J.J. McCarthy. Download the PrizePicks app today and use code Sheehan for a first deposit match up to $100! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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He'll do Drake May and Michael Pennix Jr. Hopefully a little later on next week. The show's presenting sponsor, as always, is Windonation. Call them at 86690 Nation or head to Windonation.com. Mention my name for a free in-home, no obligation estimate. So I'm going to open real quickly with a big piece of news, kind of, at least for a lot of you. And I think it's worth discussing briefly here in the opening segment, and then we'll get right to Cooley and his film breakdowns. But Adam Schaefter was on a podcast called Trap or Dive, and he said the following about Washington and what they'll do at number two in the upcoming draft.

Good luck to your commanders in the draft as well. I think you go out of those Jaden Daniels jersey. I think you'll get that. Adam Schaefter, unwavering in his belief that Daniels is going number two to Washington. That from the Trap and Dive podcast where he says, it's safe, commanders fans, to order a Jaden Daniels jersey. Now, he did go on to say that this isn't coming. directly from the commanders. It's coming from all of his sources, and he's got plenty,

that essentially have indicated that Jaden Daniels is the second best quarterback in this draft. But, man, Schefter three or four times now, right? Over the last week and a half to two weeks, very insistent, very steadfast in his belief that Washington will select Daniels at number two. I believe Daniels is the second best quarterback in this draft. You guys know that. I think he's closer to Williams than whomever number three is to Daniels. And I do think that the Schefter position, I think the more and more you read or you watch or you listen to actual experienced evaluators talk about these quarterbacks, it appears

Daniels is the clear-cut number two quarterback in this draft. I think it all leads to Adam Peters coming to the same conclusion. Dan Quinn, Cliff Kingsbury, and the Washington front office coming to the same conclusion. Would I wager on it at this point? Maybe now I'm starting to feel more confident that that is the pick. But again, the top 30 visits haven't happened, and they can change their money. mind. Something could happen, you know, in one of these top 30 visits. They could learn something between now and Thursday night, April 25th. But, you know, the Schefter position is interesting

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86690 Nation, Windonation.com. With me today on this Saturday, beautiful Saturday on the East Coast, is Chris Cooley, who has two quarterbacks that he is going to give a review on. Jaden Daniels and J.J. McCarthy today. He will do Drake May in Michael Pennock's, Junior for a time either later this week or the week before the draft. I know he's excited about it. It's tough to get our schedules in sync.

You know how much I appreciate that you do this because you are very busy. But look, there are, you know, at least a dozen people waiting to hear Chris Cooley's film breakdown of these quarterbacks. And you. Well, yeah. I know there's you. I really just do this to entertain you. No, you don't.

And to stop getting your text messages for five to six days. Well, you wouldn't get my text messages for five to six days if on the day that we had originally scheduled to do this, you had been available. I'm actually aware of that, and I am clearly not the best in terms of schedule. But I've had like my worst all-time week. you have with oh it and i mean nothing's wrong i just i think i got some issues this week with something like i'm setting things up here i'm like oh i can't do that i have this here well you're i had a big it's recruiting up with my buddy with my boy and his friend and

my wife's friend other for our friends had a birthday party and i told my son we could do this great fun night with his buddy and then i had to tell him at like 4 o'clock. Psych, that wasn't true. We're not doing that with your friend. Well, you know what? He cried. That's...

He actually, he cried. And then the other dad called me and he's like, yeah, no, I mean, we're friends. And they're together today all day. So it worked out. But he's like, yeah, my son just dropped his head and went and sat in his room. Like, so, I mean, that's worse than Mr. Podcast. Yes. Don't disappoint the kids.

It's like three business. meetings. It was just not a good week for me in terms of schedule. I got to write things down, I think. Yeah. I mean, it's funny because I had said to Tommy earlier this week, I'm just a little bit off. Like, I am forgetting things, I'm missing things,

but I don't think I'm turning into you because you've not... No, that's hard to do. That's hard to do, but I think the most important thing is you don't let the kids down. So make sure... No, not, not normal. No.

All right. Oh, I had one other issue. I don't know if you've ever had this, and I think it was one from one of my kids. I don't know how I happened. My date and time was set to a day off. So I'm getting, like, when I get it, text messages would come through,

but it would never beep or alert me or show a text because it was yesterday's message. Say that again? So my date and time and settings on my phone was off. So if you text me, it would show, If I went into my messages, I would see, like, the blue dot by it. It would be a new text.

But it would never alert me that a text came. And then right when it came through, it would say yesterday. For me, if you text me now, I fixed it today. I saw it, but it would say, right? And if you text you now, it would say yesterday, 12.4. Well, you've always had issues with your phone, including finding it. Yeah, the biggest issue is I don't like it. So, yeah.

Anyway, that's enough of the excuses. It's just I just didn't do well this week. And I apologize. Okay. Well, let's get to it. because no one wants to hear this anyway. You've done Jaden Daniels and J.J. McCarthy. I think you understand sort of the way this draft is setting up.

Caleb Williams, more likely than not, like, 99.9% at this point. He's going to go number one to Chicago. And the draft, everybody believes, starts with Washington at number two, although there have been recent rumblings from guys like Schefter that Jaden Daniels is going to be the Washington selection at number two. two. In fact, yesterday he said, made the comment, you can start buying your Jaden Daniels jerseys if you're commanders fans. But I don't think anything's completely etched in stone at this point. It really doesn't matter because we want to hear what you think. Let's start with Jaden Daniels,

LSU quarterback. I think it's crazy because I purposely did this this way. I really had a good sense that they weren't going to draft McCarthy based on where their pick is. I'd watch some more of the McCarthy stuff through the season. So I had a feel for him and we'll talk about him. But purposely did Daniels instead of May. He's just a more exciting player, I think, in a lot of ways. But I didn't watch a ton of LSU. I don't watch a ton of football or college football.

So I'm through my third game. And I like, this dude is a freaking walking highlight tape. But you're just watching throws. You're just watching dropbacks. or passing plays. And it's a highlight tape. It's insane. He's in,

Jake Daniels is incredible. He's big tall dude, I think, six four. 210, so, and you hear like, oh, he's slender for him, and he does. He's thin. He's thin. He looks thin on the field. But 210's not that slender for a quarterback.

I mean, 210's still pretty good weight. It's not like you couldn't get to 225 in a year, for two years. You and I would have no problem with that. Well, no. True. No, I could manage 15 pounds in the week right now.

Do you not care that he didn't test or do anything at the combine? I don't see any tangible reason for him to have run a 40-yard dash or to do a vertical jump or to go through any of the throws. I mean, actually, I would probably would like to see him throw the ball at the combine. I'd like to see him throw the ball in a drop-back setting in the combine, which is maybe why he didn't do it. But he's probably 4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4. He plays pretty fast, Kev.

Let him get out of the pocket, and he's incredible as a runner. Yeah. You think he'd run 4-4, right? Is that what you just said? Yeah. If it's not 4-4-3, something. Yeah. Yeah, he didn't not run at the combine because he was.

was worried he was going to run a 4-6. That wasn't a question. He's a 4-4 guy. He's got a burst. But he's also crazy athletic. I mean, his agility is awesome. His ability to sidestep, move out of the way, avoid, dodge, all incredible. He'd, except for when he doesn't, because he gets smoked.

He's going to have to learn that. He can fly. He can fly. He can fly. He can't watch enough games to see him fly. He knows that a slide. I think he's just competitive as a runner. He gets freaking wax in the first half of the old Miss game,

which is the first half, by the way, that's like 31-28 with unbelievable offense. But he got hit in the face so hard and fumbled and went up in the air. Like, oh, my God, dude. You could say you've got to be able to protect the football, but you got to know that that's not a hit. You need to take. Especially as a quarterback. We don't need to take that yet.

He took three or four in that game. He took a couple in every game. Which are the games you watched? You said you watched three games? I watched Auburn game. I watched the Ole Miss game. I watched a bunch of... Like, dude, here's the hard thing.

I watched a bunch of random stuff because you look up Jaden Daniel's film and now there's 92 film breakdowns on the internet. Right. I think we talked about this two. years ago, and I said it was crazy. Like, there's quite a bit of film breakdown. Yeah. Bro. Like, every dude, every bro has his own film breakdown. And they all get up on the Google

videos. Like, I don't want to watch you slow it down. I want to watch all his plays quickly. Right. So, anyways, as a passer, I think he's got pretty good feet in the pocket. I think he's got a willingness to stay in the pocket. I think LSU runs some legitimate stuff where you see spacing and you see him read things out. He, as a progression type of guy, can get through progressions, at least can read the defense and identify who's going to be open and where they're going to be open and throw the ball in a rhythm and timing that is relatable to that concept.

He can work short concepts with short spacing concepts. He can work two-by-two concepts. He's good out of a bunch set. laying the ball down the field over linebackers on some of the little run-action throws to really drive it in over a linebacker is awesome. I think he's very accurate. You can find throws where you're seeing some inaccuracy, which would contradict exactly what I said, but I think for the most part, he does a really catchable and accurate ball.

To me, he takes some risks, but I think he also takes necessary risks. in the moments of the game where you're like, oh, that's a bad decision. Yeah, and we could put that on film and say, you know, out of context, it's a terrible decision. But a lot of times I think he's got a good feel for the flow of the game and how he's managing exactly that. To me, again, like I said, rhythm is, I think, really, really good. I think his feet have gotten better throughout the year. You watch another year last year some.

Feet is getting really pretty consistent. He's an audience. It's all gone, but that's what everyone is. I mean, it's hard to say that it's not that. And I don't care anymore because the NFL is really adapted to just that. They make big plays on the move. As a scrambler, he's obviously a massive problem when he gets out in the open field. You can have a second in 23, and all of a sudden he's running for 45 yards.

It's not like he's a gain 8 to 12 yards and slide, but he can get your 4.3. 45, 50. You got to run the entire defense. I thought really overall, a couple of negatives that I saw. I don't think he's got a rifle. He can really let it go. He can really let it go.

He can throw a ball down field. And he can fill the ball down field with a ton of arc. He does a great job on deep balls. But I don't think he's got to, like, send it across the field at 17 yards to a comeback gun. to me that's not what I see it's you know he can put good touch on the ball and he can drive a ball

in the middle of the field but to just sling it on a just on a B line you know to that mid-range 15 to 20 yards ish he's got some touch on most of the throws which if you're

fine in timing of it is a much more catchable ball but can get you in trouble on the NFL level where windows aren't open as long as you would like them to be open. Right.

So, you know, medium in terms of velocity and drive on the ball. But it's not bad. We're not sitting here saying once we can't throw the ball over 45 yards. Like, no, I bet you can throw the ball 65, 70 yards.

Just that drive on it. which is also something he can work on planting and driving off his back foot and probably improve on quite a bit. But so, I mean, overall, to me, you see the incredibly experienced college quarterback. He's calm in the pocket. His demeanor is absolutely tremendous. He can make big time throws. He make big throws and big plays. I think his discipline's good, his timing's good.

But all that said, just back what I started with, he's a walking freaking high rail. How is this not your pick? And you would see this at the NFL level, too? I think you're going to see it immediately at the NFL level. To me, this is the new norm in a lot of ways that he might take some time to develop in terms of an all-around dude. might not. It might look like C.J. Stroud. And it will probably depend on the fit of scheme and offense and some of the guys around him. Like,

if he's got a guy like neighbors, some of those receivers at LSU, and what they look like against other college teams, he'll be all right. I love him. I don't think we need to do any more of this film breakdown on any of these other players. This is my guy. This is legitimately my guy at number two.

So, I mean, you know before I put you to work on this project of doing film breakdowns of the quarterbacks that would potentially be picks for Washington, you knew how I felt about Jaden Daniels. Now, I don't dislike any of the others. I mean, I'm not a massive fan of McCarthy, but maybe there's reason for not being a fan because I just didn't see him do enough at Michigan. but on Daniels, so you think that in terms of the flaws, he doesn't necessarily drive that medium throw, that comeback, enough arm strength on that throw, but it's more timing and touch. And is there any concern about that? Well, I think the concern is if that's a throw we have to make in a situation,

that the timing, the open window is not anywhere near in the NFL what is in college. But can he make the throw? Can he tempo the throw to say, hey, look, this dude right here is that 17 yards, and I trust that this breaks and we made at 19 and let's let it rip right now or up 15 and let's trust that he comes back out of it that he'll be there, make a catch? that timing can be acquired. That's a work with your receiver's kind of deal. The frame.

You said he can put on more weight. Do you think he needs to put on more weight? No, I don't think he needs to. If that was a massive concern of mine, but to me, I don't mind his frame. I think he's got a very athletic body. We can probably put on five or six pounds 10 pounds, but I don't

see this huge need for it. I mean, in the negative, he's got to stop getting hit. He's going to have to understand as a young quarterback in the NFL, we can't take those hits, but that's something that you can explain, and when you really think about it, if LSU loses two games, they can't play in the national

championship, or most likely. For the most part, every game is life or death to a championship. Yep. It's a play. I mean, every game in college football is a playoff game. Yep, it was.

For the most part. With four teams, you're right. So I can see where someone like Jane Daniels would say, I know how to play without complete reckless abandon. I choose to because I want to win, and we needed to win those games. And he's in a game like an old Miss game where he's taking a shot. They're down 217 in the,

first quarter. Yeah. It's 31, 28, and they miss a field goal to tie it up at the end of a half. I don't even, he had over 300 yards of total offense in the first half by himself. Right. That's a guess, but, I mean, it's a lot. It's incredible. It was a lot.

Yeah. Yeah, he had over 500 yards of offense in that game. It was 600 against 4. In a game that they ended up losing. Yeah. The other thing, when you, to me, here's the other thing, you read this a lot, too, or you'll hear this oftentimes with college quarterbacks. And I said it, and he does put touch on some of those intermediate throws to the outside.

Also remember, the hashes are way wider. So we're on the left hash, on a ball across the field, the right hash is a much longer throw. Right. So, like, I'm not, I'm not going to sit here and tell you he's perfect. Like, I'm not going to see here and say every throw he made is amazing and everything. He made some mistakes. He got away with quite a few that could have been picks throughout the year. You know, there's a lot that we could make a negative highlight tape of him

and say that he's not the dude. But I think in a positive fashion, he's really dynamic. And back to the point I was making about a first-year player and the new trend is, to me, he doesn't have to make such huge strides as a passer to be able to have success in the NFL. I think he's a lot closer in just that regard. But his ability to move and run and find green grass and open space and also what that does to a defense and how they have to prepare a plan for that changes the entire dynamic of what a quarterback is on an NFL level. It makes it a ton easier.

And if you're taking a young guy, he better be able to move and run. What kind of offense fits him best? There are people that watch just kind of highlight reels and say, well, this has to be a dual threat attack. This has to be Lamar Jackson in Baltimore for the first several years. What do you see? Absolutely not. It doesn't have to be a dual threat offense.

He has the ability. to be in, to me, about whatever he wants. They will use dual threat, but everyone uses dual threat. And he'll have dual threat things. Situation. Because it's a great opportunity, because they're a great, in a situation or not, like, there's a great opportunity to get yard. He's also really done a great job with that kind of triple option

with the read option where you can hand it to the back, the quarterback could then run, but also as we get out of the pocket, we can throw it to the flat route. So there's three versions of the option. You've seen that. I mean, you obviously understand what it is. But as he gets out, when you quarterback used to get out, when I was playing with Robert that first year,

starting in the NFL, the quarterback would come out of the pocket and a tight end or somebody would arc out to block and go to escort them to the sideline. And so you're out there trying to block the widest guy and try to make sure that quarterback can get around you. It's a fairly tough block. Yeah, that was figured out like six years ago or seven years ago.

if I just run to the flat and look for the ball, the guy either has to cover me or not, and the quarterback can throw it to you not. It makes it really easy. We don't have to adjust to what that block is. Right. You've seen a lot of that with Casey and Philadelphia. Yeah.

So we can do that. They can do some of the zone read stuff. He can run a quarterback draw. He can do a lot of those things. But to me again, I think he has enough football IQ to protect himself in the pocket, to take care of himself in the pocket, to understand his progression,

to make reeds, to make throws, to get the ball down the field to distribute. No, he does not have to be a dual threat option quarterback, and that's what we have to do. It doesn't have to be Lamar Jackson's first year. I think he's a lot more versatile than that. I think in a lot of ways he could look a lot like what C.J. Stroud did this year. You're like, this dude can make pretty much every throw. He can threaten vertically with unbelievable touch

to put the ball on an arc and drop it, like drop it. in the bucket, but his does. It drops. It drops in the easy catchable. He can lay it throws the middle field on some of those deeper in-routes. He can throw consistently to short routes. He reads things out very well. So, I think he can be in whatever, I think he can be whatever you want him to be. I mean, he opens the door to doing a lot as he, as an offense with a rookie quarterback. All right. Let's get to J.J. McCarthy next right after these words from a few. of our sponsors.

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fair numbers, fair spreads, money lines, totals, prop bet numbers, and fair pricing as well. Go to my bookie.orgie.orgie, use my promo code, Kevin, D.C. We continue with Cooley. J.J. McCarthy. Go ahead. Jay J.J. McCarthy's really a lot more interesting to me when you watch some film on him than what I thought he was going to be before I watched some film on him. I really did not see it, per se, in McCarthy. And I think the biggest thing is, Michigan is so heavy run the ball. And you could look at him as a manager

or a guy that just facilitates and runs an offense. But when you really start to watch, he'll make big plays and big throws and big moments of every game. He's really gritty. And he also, when you're talking about the throws he's making in the plays he's making, he can throw ball into the tightest windows with precise accuracy. He is very, very accurate with the football. I think he's got a toughness to him.

He's, as a young quarterback, again, he's got the ability to run and move. He's an athlete. Yeah. What did he run? Did he run a 40? I'll bet. I forget if he ran it at his prom-a-day. Pro-day.

He's not worse than a low 4-6 guy. I mean, he's a 4-6 guy, if not bad. I mean, he could be faster. Yeah, I'm looking to see. But his quicks are really good. He didn't run the 40 at the Combine. The only time he's run a 40, apparently there's a report that he ran 4-48 before the season started at Michigan.

But he was not timed officially at the Combine or during his pro day. Well, I would believe that. That's pretty fast. I can believe that. He's athletic, too, is what you're saying. Yeah, but he has a ton of quicks. He's got great agility. He can move out of the pocket and throw the ball.

He can move out of the pocket and throw the ball with quite a bit accuracy as well. But some of his stuff in the middle of the field is really special. And I'm talking about even tight underneath stuff. Like, you got that seven-yard choice route or that six-yard choice route with your slot receiver. And that receivers breaks into it. Like, when we take an in-break to the middle of the field, now the quarterback's job is ultimately to hold the middle of the windbacker or the middle of the field player just enough to keep that guy open. But he doesn't know necessarily if he's going in or out. And there's five or six throws that you're like, oh, wow.

I mean, rifled it in there. And that's the only spot that ball could have landed. to be caught, and it's there. But it's shown a lot. He's throwing slants, and throwing digs, throwing any of the underneath, quick stuff,

it's really accurate. And the funny thing is, and just doing these two quarterbacks, you talk about a couple things. One, he does have, like, rifle bullet-zip on the football.

I mean, it is coming out, like John Laine. That's a, I mean, that's a big step, but that whatever, it's coming out hard.

The thing is, we talked about Jay Daniels in terms of throwing the ball down the field and finding, like, he's got a ton of different ball angles and catchable ball flights. McCarthy just went to fucking go. Like, him throwing an 18-yard comeback is like, the receiver almost has to turn around before he throws it because that sucker is on you. Like, he has a hard time finding different angles with the ball and finding different approaches. throw the ball. He's just throwing a can in everything.

And I think that's harder to teach a quarterback. I think it's hard to teach him to tempo the ball and to layer balls and to do some different things like that. I think it's harder to learn that.

You're impressed with his arm. You're impressed with his arm. Oh, he's got a big time arm. Yeah. There's no doubt about it. And accuracy. And accuracy. See, I think One thing I do think about McCarthy is he'll get fixated on a one read, and he's not as quick through his reads.

But that's also tough to say because you're going, okay, is Michigan coaching this, this route concept is a one-man show to a checkdown to a back? Or how are they designing and creating their offense? I hate Michigan's offense. I hate what they're doing on offense. Why? Like, there's a, like, for a college offense, and I get it, they ran the ball really, really well. They are, they're effective running. They had more seven, eight-man protections, two and three-man concepts down the field than anybody in college football had to be. Yeah.

Like so many times, you're second-eight, and you've got an eight-man protection. Like, dude. I mean, that's odd in college. Are they really that box committed? But then here's the crazy thing, like, so you're watching a quarterback who you're like, dude has to get out of the pocket. He's flustered back in the pocket, but you've got an eight-man protection with two tight ends in, and any time you have a full eight-man protection, you're in a full line fight.

But you don't just, you don't just him protect, like I got him. I got him, call him protection. You're in a slide protection where you're all sliding down. That eliminates gaps in the pocket. That eliminates, like, escape the A gap, escape the B gap. Right. It essentially, if you're slide protecting in the right way and you don't have anyone open, you have to run around the edge.

So he's got a lot of lateral scrambles. And yeah, you'd like him to be able to get out of the pocket and put a ball on somebody. There's nobody out there. Right. So he's got some throwaways and some things that look like he's flustered, but, bro, I got two dudes that running down the field. They have four or five, potentially even sometimes six in coverage. and this is true.

What do you want me to do here? And I don't really have running run lanes. They played a lot of really good defenses. You know, the Big Ten had some excellent defensive teams. You know, Iowa was dominant defensively. Penn State was great defensively. Do you know in the Penn State game, I don't think they threw a pass in the second half?

He had a 10-a-half three, like two, three, five passes. Yeah. Yeah, they didn't throw a pass in the second half at Penn State. Not one. And the thing that I don't like about that, and I'm not saying it's a, it would kill him as a prospect for me. But it's almost like the one-year quarterback that, they just haven't seen enough.

They haven't had enough. There's not enough offense to what they've done, to what they've learned. They haven't seen enough defenses. When you're not in a lot of spread stuff and moving around, formationally, you see basic defenses throughout the game. That's also why Michigan wants to stay in heavier set offenses,

because they'll make the defense incredibly predictable by doing that. But I think he is going to need a ton of work to learn how to go through progressions, to learn how to go deep to short, different levels. to me, that's just not, I haven't seen enough of it. So, like, for McCarthy, he's like a Shanahan guy. That's what we do. We need a lot of run-action stuff. We need some keeper-thet.

We need to keep him simplified, I think, early. And I'm not saying he can't make every one of these throws and that he wouldn't learn to do all of this. And a smart coach would help him. I don't know. Haven't met him. I would hope he's a smart kid. Apparently the intangibles are like off the charts with him.

One of the reasons he's been flying up boards since the season ended is that he is smart, he is, you know, charismatic, he's got great leadership ability, etc. Yeah. And all those things you want in your leader, but he's got to be the leader. Like you have to be able to perform and play on an NFL level. for those things to really matter. Or you're Col McCoy. And everyone loves Colt McCoy.

Right? Right. But his intangibles and smartness doesn't help us if he's a bench player. Do you think he's a bench player? I'm not taking McCart. No, I don't think he's a bench player, but do I think he's a sure thing?

I don't know. No, I don't know if he's a sure thing. He's not a sure thing. I think there's enough questions to, what his ceiling is and how far up the stairs he is on the way of the ceiling. The comp for him repeatedly has been Kirk Cousins. He's more athletic than Kirk, right? Much more. I think he's Baker Mayfield.

Okay. He played pretty decent football this year. It's hard to say that Kirk's really the comp. It's more about... It's more about... Yeah, agreed. And it's more about that what you said is that the perfect offense for him would be a Shanahan-style offense. Right. Well, here's the thing that's awesome that you can do if you are taking him overall for.

Implement a Shanahan-style offense. Yeah. Oh, oh, my gosh. This is wild. So we like, you know, this offense, but our players don't really fit it. let's do something different. Football's not that hard, Kev. I mean, everyone sees it.

Most coaches know how to do it or know what it is. Yeah. Everything, even in Shanahan's a, it's a Shannonhan's that often. It's still a West Coast system, which essentially the same terminology as Andy Reed, or a lot of it. I actually don't know what Andy Reid's terminology is, but it's a Cori-L system in terms of how you read language

or West Coast Walsh or then there's like the Belichick stuff that's I think different right the Patriot stuff so in the two quarterbacks you've looked at it number two

they'll both be on the board if you're making the pick for Washington you're selecting oh Jane Daniels is number two overall too early for J.J. McCarthy Yes. All right, so...

Here, let me answer that question in a different way. It is not too early for Jay-G McCarthy if Jane Daniels isn't on the board. And Drake May is not on the board, and I haven't watched the tone of Drake May yet, but if there's... It's too early to take a flyer for me on intangibles and a lot of football unknowns when I watch Shane Daniels on film. Jane Daniels would have to really suck in an interview. you. I would have to walk, I'd have to spend a day with this kid and say, I cannot stand him.

He is not our dude. That I would have to know to make that decision. Sure. You and I are not going to know that. Right. That's a fun of the time of the year, so. We'll see where they go, but I think this is an easy one out of those, too. We'll watch May.

And the reason I did it this way is, is, I'll bet you I like May. I mean, obviously, I know who it is. I've looked up enough stuff. I've read about stuff. I think I'm going to like it. I didn't may laugh. All right. So we'll do...

We'll do... And I want you to watch Panix Jr., also from Washington. So we'll do those two, if not later, this week, the week of the draft, which is the following week. All right, get back to it. We'll get it done this week. I know you got kids stuff. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

Chris Cooley, everybody. Two quarterbacks down, at least two more. to go. We'll try to get to those by the end of the upcoming week. Back on Monday, enjoy the rest of the weekend.