The Kevin Sheehan Show - Cooley & Kevin On WFT Free Agency

Episode Date: March 12, 2021

Cooley and Kevin today talking WFT free agency ideas/players/etc. Also, their thoughts on Cam Newton re-signing in New England and Cooley weighed in for the first time on the Scherff tag. Kevin talked... Terps over Michigan State and had a MD-Michigan lean as well.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:01:48 I thought he sucked when I watched him play last year. I'm a little bit surprised at this, but we did hear Cam say at some point recently that he was going to play again and he was going to have a chance to start again next year, and it was almost as if he was indicating that he knew that Belichick was going to want him back. What is your reaction to Cam Newton going back to New England and potentially Cooley being the starter next year? I didn't think he played well last year. I thought he struggled. I thought the offense struggled at times. I thought if he wasn't running the ball, even in some third down situations, they were in trouble. He threw a ton of picks. He made bad decisions. I don't know. I'm surprised. Now, you think back to the last two,
Starting point is 00:02:33 three, four years that Tom Brady hasn't had the weapons and they needed to rebuild an offense. And maybe they saw enough in Cam that they said, hey, let's build some pieces around him. And let's continue to be that hard-nosed running football team. But we got to acquire some dudes to do that. And let's go in that direction. It's also funny because. as Cam Newton said earlier, Bill Belichick's the most understood person in sports. And then he said, he's dope as shit. Like, he's a cool dude. He understands the game.
Starting point is 00:03:03 He's a historian of the game. It's like, damn, he's going back. He's got film. Like, he's literally teaching the game. I mean, just the ultimate BJ right there. And it's a smart thing to do. Well, maybe he knew he was coming back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I mean, you're going to be a. guy. You know, what's interesting is remember how the year started. You know, he had a decent game against Miami. They won, and then there was that Sunday night game at Seattle that was an excellent game. And he was incredible in that game.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And I remember after that game, I think we talked about it. It's like, you know what? New England and Belichick this year might end up being better than Tampa Bay and Brady, and they really got an answer with Cam. He threw and I just pulled up the box score from that game. He threw for 390s.
Starting point is 00:03:54 30 of 44, 3997 yards, a touchdown and interception, 11 carries 47 yards. And if you recall, he drove him down the field and had him like in a first and goal situation at the end of that game down 3530. And then on that, you know, with like a couple of seconds left in the game, they ran him off tackle and he got stopped. He got stuffed. And they lost the game 3530. I don't know if he ever played the rest of that season a game like.
Starting point is 00:04:24 that. A lot of Washington fans wondered whether or not Ron Rivera would be interested. My position was always, if he wasn't interested last year, why would he be interested this year? I just didn't think that that was even a possibility. I didn't think actually Cam Newton was going to be in the league. I thought there was a chance he wouldn't be in the league this year. I think that's a realistic chance. I don't think Cam Newton would go anywhere and be a backup quarterback. So if he wasn't a starter, I don't know if he would have stayed. I also think it's interesting because New England's got evaluations on a lot of dudes that at least the guys like Fitzpatrick and the rest of the free agent quarterbacks,
Starting point is 00:05:07 they didn't want. Right. They didn't want Dalton. They didn't want Winston. They didn't want Fitzpatrick. I don't know. I don't know that Winston's literally legitimately available. But go ahead.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I see where you're going with this. He's still available. They didn't want Tyrod. Taylor. They didn't want Jacoby Brissette. And by the way, remember, the discussion was Gropolo's going to end up back there. And they have a shitload of cap space this year. Remember, you know, basically
Starting point is 00:05:35 last year was the season in which they were going to clean up their cap. They've cleaned it up. I think they have the second most cap space available. I think that's the number. They have the second most cap space behind Jacksonville. And so, you know, they're going to build a team around Cam? No. I can't imagine they're going to do that. They send them to a one-year deal. Well, I know, but they're- But, yeah, I guess I suggested that that maybe it's a style of football that they want to play.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Maybe that's the style of football Belichick wants to play moving forward. Maybe he's looked a lot at what Baltimore has done and said, this is the way I got to do it. Maybe he's looked a lot at the way the quarterback numbers have went up on the cap over the last 10 years and said, this is not what I want to do. I've jokingly suggested to you over the last three or four years. What if you just draft a guy in the second, third, or fourth round that you like, or late first even, maybe move up late first until you get the fifth year option on dudes, and then you play a guy under that contract for five years where you're running them. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And you had that idea seven years ago. I know. I've been floating that idea forever, and it's not necessarily my idea of building. building a team, but it's just looking at it from a different direction, that you never pay that massive cap number. And maybe Belichick's looking at it and saying, no one's going to have the control that Tom Brady had again. I'm here. I'm going to be the guy. Look how much control Harbaugh has in Baltimore. How did I lose control to Tom Brady? This is a big year for Belichick. I know, look, he's the greatest coach in history, all the super, but this is. But this,
Starting point is 00:07:23 This is actually an important season for Bill Belichick. I know what his legacy is going to be, but there's going to be this Brady Belichick thing, and it's going to be discussed forever. And Brady won the Super Bowl last year, and Belichick had a shitload of players opt out. Okay, so they had a terrible cap situation. If you're following it, you understand why they had a step back season. wasn't all because Brady wasn't there. They probably would have been a lot better with Brady, but they were in a difficult situation. This year, however, they've got the second most cap
Starting point is 00:08:03 space in the league. They've got a decent draft position. They've already decided not to franchise tag Joe Thuny to guard, which, you know, it's interesting. They didn't, you know, franchise tag Thuny. I do want your reaction to Sheriff, by the way. I don't think we've gotten that yet this week because I think it happened after our last show this week. But I think So I think this is kind of a big year for the Patriots. And they're going to get a lot of players back that opted out last year. But this is, don't you, do you sense the same thing on Belichick or not? At least as far as public opinion goes, it's a huge year.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And it may be a big year in terms of where New England wants to go moving forward. To me, it's insane to think you'd start moving away from him. But I think we talked about this. I don't know when Tom Brady took some shots back at him and they had guys opt out and you're it's a new era of athletes who don't like it as hard as it's always been
Starting point is 00:09:05 right and so maybe it is harder to recruit to get guys to sign free agents to I don't know I think still people want to play for Bill it's a big year yeah there's no doubt isn't that crazy though I yeah I don't that career and you go
Starting point is 00:09:22 this is a big year for Bill. To me, when you're that good, don't you think it's just, when you're done, Bill, you're, you tell us. Yeah. When you finish up here, it's stupid to say that it's stupid to say that it's a big year for Bill Belichick, like somehow his legacy or somehow his, you know, his job is on the line. That's not what we mean. It's not what I mean. And I think most of you understand that some of you may be struggling with it. I just think Brady winning the Super Bowl. and Belichick having this, you know, very, you know, for the first year, true step-back year, which it wasn't his fault.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Actually, I thought the Patriots had a pretty interesting season, and at times it was like, man, the only thing keeping them competitive is how tough and how well-coached they are. You know, I remember they beat the Chargers at one point this year. It was like 45 to nothing. They totally shut down Justin Herbert. And I'm like, man, fucking Belichick. Like they don't have anything.
Starting point is 00:10:25 They don't have anything. And they're still hanging in there. But I don't know. It's just, I don't know if I, at this point, I'd want to put my eggs into the Cam Newton basket. And who knows? Maybe they'll end up acquiring somebody else or maybe, you know, it's a one-year deal. It's probably heavy on incentives so they can move away from it. But I think you made a really good point, right?
Starting point is 00:10:52 And that is a lot of the other guys that people are talking about, you know, a Marriota for hardly anything. Maybe, you know, he gets let go at Tyrod Taylor, Jacobi Brouset, who by the way played for him, you know, was there. And Andy Dalton, you know, and some of these other guys, Ryan Fitzpatrick, no, he decided on Cam in front of those guys. Yeah, I think it says a lot about other guys. And it just, it may be the direction they want to go. In terms of the style they want to play? In terms of the style they want to play. And Cam's a lot cheaper
Starting point is 00:11:23 than Marriota. Okay. Well, Cam's way cheaper than Marietta and you don't have to acquire Cam. You don't have to give anything to acquire Cam. Maybe they're planning on moving that direction in the draft in the next year. Yeah, that's true too.
Starting point is 00:11:39 They've just always been such an adapt team, though. It's funny to say the success they've had, they've adapted so well to what talent they have over Bill Belbeth. Belichick's career. Their defenses are multiple type defenses. Whatever they have on offense, they play their best guys. If it's three good tight ends, they're playing three good tight ends on every down. They're moving them around. If they think they need to build through running, which is what they've done over the last couple of years, even with Tom, Kevin, in Tom's last two years
Starting point is 00:12:11 there, they became, they went from a predominantly gun team to a lineup and I formation a lot team. It really does seem like they've trended more towards power football. Yeah. Well, there's been nobody better and no staff better at figuring out, okay, what do we need to do to win this game this week? How many times week in and week out would we watch the Patriots? And one week, lots of runs. Next week, lots of throws. You know, one week, tons of zone.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Next week, a lot of press man. Like it's just there wasn't a better You know it's the same way a lot of us felt about Gibbs and Pettibone Through all of those years Like they just always figured out With their talent the best way to win the next game That's what it was always about Joe many years lined it up and just ran it down people's throats
Starting point is 00:13:07 Other years it was like we're going deep We're throwing it deep You know one week it was Hey they're going to have all these people in the box We'd love to run it but we got to throw the football You know, other weeks. But Joe, but that always originated around one system. I understand that.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I feel like the Patriots have changed, maybe not, obviously not their system, but their style. I think Joe's originated around one style. He changed style. He changed style. Not necessarily. He changed what they did within their system, but not style. I think you, I think you're- Anybody that played for Joe, going through the 80s to my,
Starting point is 00:13:47 a couple years in Joe's offense. Not compensated. It's the same offense. I know. I know what you're saying. I'm suggesting the Patriots. It's not like Joe all of a sudden went from smash mouth to five wide. Oop de up.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Let's throw the ball. That's never been Joe. But Bill did that. Bill went from that. We could throw it. If we're going to have 70 plays, we'll throw it 60 of them to a team that now seems to want to line up in a style to run the ball. They're not in gun that much. I know what you're saying. I mean, I think I know what you're saying. One of the things
Starting point is 00:14:26 that you and everyone else have, you know, Rigo, everybody, Joe's system, there was nothing complicated about it. It was like it was all the simple stuff was just dressed up with a lot of, you know, pre-snap stuff, right? But what I'm saying, what I meant to say is Joe would adapt to his talent. And if Joe's best chance, winning that game that week was to drop Rippin' back or drop Doug back and throw the ball down the field and stretch the field constantly. That's what he would do. If Joe felt the best way to win that particular game was that Ernest Biner get 28, 25 carries, and Riggs get 12, or Rigo get 37, that's what he was doing. Even maybe, even though what you're saying, I think,
Starting point is 00:15:15 is that maybe the way he got to that wasn't as complicated or as dynamic as Belichick and Josh McDaniels. Yeah, I guess it's just Joe was always involved in a undercenter coriel type system that ran the ball, where it seems like Belichick went from that widespread system to a smash-mouth pro-style offense in the last three four years. An old school pro style two back offense. Tight end two back offense.
Starting point is 00:15:51 They use a fullback a lot. They've never did that. I mean, Joe, Joe always needed an Hback and he always had, I don't know. That's what it would be like Texas Tech all of a sudden going from air raid to an option. Right. Yeah. It's a different, it's a different style of ball. It's a different, complete different offensive.
Starting point is 00:16:15 style. They're probably calling it the same, so it's the same system, but stylistically, it's another form of offense that they're trying to run. It's what it seemed to me, but it seemed to me over the last two years with Tom. And watching, I remember thinking, but two years ago when Tom came to Washington, you're looking at them on film a lot, and you're saying, man, they're using a fullback a ton. They're running power football, a ton. It's not Tom in a gun spot. Coach Kenneth Navy shows up in August and says, we're ditching the triple option.
Starting point is 00:16:49 We're going air raid. Exactly. Maybe that's part of Cam staying there is they've started to evolve and stylistically change into that. And he's the best fit for that right now. And maybe they're going to draft for that. Do you remember Norv saying, we're not going to run Cam as much?
Starting point is 00:17:11 And it changed very quickly. Because Cam was not just the first sort of zone-reed quarterback that we saw in the NFL in, you know, more red zone situations. And then obviously in 2012, what Washington did with RG3. And then, you know, Bevel did in Seattle with Wilson and what Kaepernick was doing in San Francisco, et cetera. But I remember, you know, there was this thought that Cam was taking too much of a pounding. As big and strong as he was, you know, they couldn't just run, you know, 18 sweep. They couldn't run 18 sweep,
Starting point is 00:17:47 which is the quarterback taking the snap and running power sweep, one back through the eight hole. They couldn't do that anymore. And I remember Norv making it a real point and even Rivera making it a point, yeah, we're going to get away from running a lot of the design stuff with Cam.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And then they were struggling and they went right back to it. And Cam never had a problem with it. Cam never ever really complained about the beating that he would take as a, you know, as a guy that ran more designed power runs by a quarterback than any quarterback in the league in the last, maybe ever. We've never seen an offense with a quarterback that lines up, snaps it to the quarterback, and runs behind a pulling guard. We see it at a zone read. But New England did it this year. They said, you're playing for us. You're doing that.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Right. We like when you do that. That works. Why do you think they have to do that? I mean, he's never complained about it. I don't think they have to do it. It's an effective play for them. And he's good at it.
Starting point is 00:18:53 He's good at not taking the big explosive hit. He's good at finding that little spot. And he's good at getting yards for him. All right. You have not weighed in on the Brandon Sheriff Tag, just over $18 million for one year. They still could sign a long-term deal by July 15th. I think the odds are long on that.
Starting point is 00:19:15 What do you think? If I just got an $18 million guaranteed one-year deal, why would I sign a long-term deal? There's no incentive for him to sign a long-term deal. None. None. The cap's going to be down this year, for sure. probably going to go back up next year.
Starting point is 00:19:35 If he plays decent under this year's deal, he's going to get a massive long-term deal. I guess I just don't see a reason for him to do that. The luxury for Washington is they do have the cap space, but I think as I told you, I mean, are you a Super Bowl contender this year? Are you a legit contender this year? No.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Because if not, why would you pay a guard $18 million? Right. The thing is, is they can afford it. Okay. I understand that they can afford it. So then what's the downside? They got to feel like he wants to stay. I don't see this as a Kirk Cousin's situation where they know he's gone at the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:20:17 You're so convinced of that? Are you convinced to that? I'm not convinced of it, but it doesn't make sense to do this if you don't believe you can resign him. Unless what you just said is in their thinking, which is we've got the space. If it's just one year, you know, we're going to be trying some things at quarterback. We want our offensive line intact. We'll figure out his replacement next year. He's, you know, he's the culture guy we want, and we want two years straight of high-quality people, you know, to teach our younger people to be examples. And, you know, maybe if we really do, you know, some great things together this year, he'll want to stay, but we're okay with losing him after this year.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Maybe it is just about that they have the space and they have a need. And it's one year. I don't like doing that at all. But maybe that's their thinking. Yeah, I don't like doing it at all either, but that probably is their thinking. And as we've went over and over this, the thing that I keep thinking about Brandon Sheriff is just how good he is, you know, not just on Sunday, but Monday through Sunday. He is the right kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:21:28 and he is yeah i think i said this to you last year i think i've said this over the past i didn't necessarily love love sheriff and callahan's gap run stuff i thought man if you had more zone stuff he is just so incredible and then when you get him in space he's so good and i didn't think he'd reached his full potential maybe part of it was through injury but there's just nothing say there's nothing about him that I wouldn't want. Everything about him I want. But when you're saying that, you're going, why don't you just offer the deal that Kevin Sheehan presented $15 million a year?
Starting point is 00:22:12 Well, how do we know they didn't? We don't. We don't know that they didn't. And that's where the interesting part comes in is whether or not he actually wants to be here. I mean, you could even say Brandon Sheriff could have said, look, I'm in a situation right now where, you're going to tag me. So I'll take the 18 this year,
Starting point is 00:22:31 which will extend another year of massively guaranteed money, and then we'll do the $15 million a year. And they said, okay. Could have been a nod, we can't shake agreement. Hey, we'll do the $15 million a year next year. But this year,
Starting point is 00:22:45 I'm in a position to win, which is rare for anyone in the NFL. It's definitely rare for an offensive guard. Right. In a position where I get guard tackle, best of guard tackle money. I'm going to take that this year. You've got to give it to me.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I'm going to take it or release me. Once you start down that path, man, it's hard to get them off it. If you're a good player, even with the injury history, and especially if you're on a team what they need for the position, it's really hard. This is where, you know, I've always found it interesting. Some of the NFL, you know, guys on Twitter, Andrew Brandt and others who always say, you know, the tag is the franchise's friend.
Starting point is 00:23:27 You know, it's there for the franchise. eyes. It's not something players like, well, the experience here has not been that. The experience in other places, it isn't always that. I think you've got to be really careful with a high quality player. You've got to have the vision and you've got to
Starting point is 00:23:42 get them signed early. And you've got to be aggressive in doing it. And if you don't, you put yourself into this position. So we'll see. It's not their fault. It's not the Rivera's group. I would have re-signed Brandon Sheriff after his third year. you said it at the time i i would have signed him after a third year you probably would have
Starting point is 00:24:05 done 11 12 million dollars a year right i would have signed it right after he got hurt his third year you know what there's nothing about you that i don't love i watch you practice every day i see the way you work i see your potential you are the guy we wanted you to be we thought you were let's get it done now man that that that they're right when into your third year, you're like all signing bonus is gone. Okay. You used it up. You're not getting any more of that immediate check guaranteed money.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Your third year as a rookie is like, I don't know, 500 grand. And here comes this $12 million offer a year. You're like, boom, boom, let's do it. The Eagles used to do that a lot with guys. Yeah. It's a philosophy that different people have, but I bet he would have done it at that point. I actually, I would almost guarantee you would have done at that point. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Let's get to our free agency ideas. Some of the players we're looking at really want to hear what Cooley's thinking about. We'll do that next right up to this word from one of our sponsors. All right. Legal tampering period, the 15th. That is Monday through the 17th. And then we'll get the official deals. But we're going to start hearing news on Monday at the latest, if not over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:25:34 All right, Cooley, have at it. What do you want Washington to do? Who are the players you want them to target? I guess we'll start on offense. They have money in free agency. Right. So let's go get some dudes. Okay, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I think you need a big time receiver. They thought they needed a big time receiver last year. Right. the bears tagged Alan Robinson. So you have two options for possible X receiver. Kenny Goliday, who Detroit didn't tag, which is going to cost you $20 million a year plus, and Corey Davis,
Starting point is 00:26:22 which is still going to cost you, you know, $17, $18 million year. You think he's $17 or $18 million, really? I wouldn't be completely, blown away if Corey Davis got that kind of money. 15 plus. Wow. Corey Davis had a big time here. You're going to pay out of those two guys.
Starting point is 00:26:43 So those are the two guys. I'm going to start with Gallaudet. Do you know what SpotRack has his projected market value? Which, by the way, they're always wrong when we've looked at this in the past. Spot Rack has Corey Davis's projected market value at close to, hold on, I had it up here earlier and now I don't. Corey Davis per Spot Rack's market value is $9.8 million average annual. When I looked at that, because by the way, he's part of my target list. I'm like, there's no chance. We've done this before where we've looked at their spot rack projected values,
Starting point is 00:27:18 and they're always off, but do you think they're off by basically, like they're 50% of the way there? Okay, let me just guess this. No less than $14 million a year. Okay. I was going to say 12, but $4.4. 14. Okay. All right. So Corey Davis. You like Corey Davis? By the way, between the two players, Ghaladay at 20, Corey Davis at 14. Ghaladay is a legit, sure thing, big time receiver. I like Goladay. I just don't think. I know what I'm getting. I just don't think he's going to want to come here. I don't care. This is my free agent. I'm not there. I know. Just telling you who I'd start with. All right. So I'd start with those two. I mean, I'd start with Goladay for sure and see if there's interest and if he wants to.
Starting point is 00:28:01 come here and what type of bidding war you're going to get into with Goladay. I mean, gosh, dang it, $20 million just a lot of money a year. And it's not often that teams win when they pay excessive amounts of money to a receiver. I think Tampa was one of the first teams this year, having paid Mike Evans a lot to really win. but yeah, $20, $20, $21 million a year for Goladay. Projected value spotrock is 17, but yeah. Well, let's call it between $17 and $20 million a year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:41 We'll make the offer. You like him? I like Goliday. Yep. I think he's legit, do everything receiver, get down the field. He's going to give you what you want in that position. You have the money for it. Let's go get him.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Okay. Corey Davis might be, I don't know, you're like we're a young building team. Corey Davis was the top pick, what, four years ago? It's going to cost us $4 million less a year. We think he's the same. Then I'm fine with Corey Davis the position. But I think one of the two guys you should sign.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I'm not sold on Will Fuller just yet, who's the other top receiver, which is going to be, you know, another guy that's $15 million a year. He's probably going to get $15 million a year, Will Fuller. I am sold on him as a player, but I don't think there's any chance that they chase him. injuries, suspension. I just think that he's not on their list. I would bet that he's not on their list of players that they'd go after. But I think he is a baller.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I think Will Fuller can really play. But he is just not available enough. He misses too many games. You know who else misses a lot of games? Hunter Henry, your guy misses a lot of games. Yeah, Hunter Henry does miss some games. You're right. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Go ahead. Keep going. The other guy that you pay a boatload to is Smith Schuster, and he's not going to go there because he's not going to fit that culture. Right. And then I think that... Why won't Smith Schuster fit the culture? Smith Schuster had all the tweet stuff last year and the dance stuff last year. Okay, boomer.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Smith Schuster's... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm suggesting that they're boomer. Yeah. Oh, I know. I would say, I like Smith Schuster. Of course you do. I'm suggesting that they're boomer. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And then the other guy that will probably be more realistic because they probably won't get either of the first couple of guys is Curtis Samuel. Right. Yeah, that's who everybody believes that they'll get. Right. You know, Curtis Samuel, Trey Boston on defense, the Carolina connections. Somebody just texted me, and I didn't do this on mine, and I'll save it. But one of the running backs that I've loved for a while, another former Carolina guy, I don't know why running back would be an option.
Starting point is 00:31:07 But go ahead. Who else you got on offense? You have not said anything about a quarterback yet. I just don't see any quarterback being definitively better than the unknown that you actually have right now. I mean, go out and sign Dalton. Yeah, you can do that. You can do that. You're not going to pay that much for Dalton.
Starting point is 00:31:36 What about the second rounder for Darnold if he's available? Yeah, I'm trading the second rounder for Darnold if he's there. There's no question. I think Darnal could play. I think Darnold's got some decisiveness. I think he throws a great ball. I think he needs a system that truly believes in him with the coach that really knows where he's going with him.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And I think Darnold could be that guy. Yeah, without question, I'm going to give a second for Darnold. Okay, so second for Darnold. I'm really surprised that the Jets haven't shopped him harder unless they really want him. So I don't know if the Jets are going to move away from Darnold. Second for Darnold. Corey Davis at, you know, call it $14 million a year.
Starting point is 00:32:21 All right, maybe it's less than that. What else offensively? I think you really, you start thinking about the tight-end position. I like Hunter Henry. I know that he's had some injury stuff, but it was what? After his rookie year that he tore his ACL? Yeah, Hunter Henry missed that whole season.
Starting point is 00:32:47 He came back and played a couple of games. He was after a second year. His second season. And he ended up coming back and playing in a playoff game, if I remember right. The year he missed his whole third season. He came back and he played in a playoff game. You might be right about that.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yeah, the one that they played against, because that was when they beat the Chiefs late, beat the Ravens, lost to the Patriots, right? You might be right about that. He didn't play very much. Right. 55 receptions in 2019, 60 receptions in 2020, is not what his production should be.
Starting point is 00:33:28 He's an 80-catchy-a-year type of guy. Well, he missed games the last two years with injuries. He played 12 games and 19, and he missed two games last year. What did he play in 19? How many? He played 12 and 19, and he played 14 games last year. So he's missed six games in the last two years, and then the year before 19 was the year that he missed all of them, right?
Starting point is 00:33:46 Yes. Okay. But in six, in... He's never played 16 games. Yeah. His rookie year, they, I don't know if he was hurt for a game or not, But with that said, he may have been inactive for a game. His upside is higher than anybody's and much higher than Austin Hoopers was a year ago.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Like he's the real deal. Well, he's every bit of Hooper is a receiving tight end. Yeah. But better. But he blocks better than Hooper. So he's a legit why. Johnny Smith, you love John O'Smith. I like him.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I do like him because he love him in a plan. I like Johnny Smith. I think you have to, even if you're saying Smith is close to Logan Thomas, you still have to have another guy. They want to use two tight ends. Go back and watch what Norve did in Carolina over the last couple years.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Of course, yeah. They like a two tight end system. Right. They do. They're going to get a tight end. Mm-hmm. So I like Smith. I like Gerald Everett.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I think that Everett. What's Everett going to cost you? Obviously not. Hunter's going to set the market. He's going to top the Austin Hooper deal from a year ago. He's going to be at 11 million, right? Wasn't Hooper almost at 11 million? Something like that.
Starting point is 00:35:17 See, yeah, Hooper was something. I think Hooper was more? What was Hooper? I got it here. Hold on. Oh, Kittle, Kittal and Kelsey are. Yeah, but those are different. Hooper was at 10-5?
Starting point is 00:35:35 Average, you know, A-A-V. Yeah. Yeah. So Henry will be around that, and it may be a little less because his production's a little less and so if it's injury stuff. He might be at 10 and the cap down a little bit. I'd pay that for that guy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I don't think that Everett's going to be that type of guy, but the thing I do like about Everett, although he's not a great blocker, he's been in that system where he understands the zone side of it. He understands how to block the edge. He definitely understands how to cut off the backside of things. He fits that zone type of mold that I think they were really trying to get into last year. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:16 It's just, you still don't have a why with Everett. You have, I guess you're saying Logan Thomas is going to evolve a little bit more. He's going to be your why. I'm not 100% sold on that position. That's having, or that guy is having two of those eight spots. I was going to say on Henry, if you're Henry and you're talking to teams,
Starting point is 00:36:38 you would want to go to Washington. Look at how many balls, Logan Thomas got. Well, I mean, look, I mean, it's, it's Norve and it's his son, and they love thrown to the tight end. Yeah, I think Henry would, I think it would be a good spot for Hunter Henry.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah. I think you consider the trade for Ertz. I don't know if they would trade him to Washington. But with all of these tight ends right now, Henry, Johnny Smith, Everett on the market, the dude coming into the draft from Florida being a top five pick. Like the Ertz value right now, it's not what it was a month ago.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Right. Ertz is 31 years old and he's had some injury issues over the last couple years, but he is a white and he's a legit threat. You'd want to know he's healthy. They'll do their due diligence, but Earths can still play. I think you would consider, I would consider a trade for Earths. I don't know what you're going to give up. A fourth, a third?
Starting point is 00:37:43 I don't think. Really? A fourth? I don't know about that. I think there are too many injuries. Yeah. I mean, if it's a fifth for Erds, I'm banging down the door for that. I know, you love him. I like him too when he's healthy. But I think
Starting point is 00:38:00 those are two positions you desperately need that you can get in free agency. I think you can get Henry or Ertz or Johnny Smith with the right offer. I don't know if you can get Goladay. If you pay Corey Davis the right amount of money, Corey Davis I think would want to come here knowing he's a legit one that you're going to consider him as a one like paired with Terry. and then I think they'll end up signing Curtis Samuel, which I do like, because they just didn't have that niche slot guy. Well, you could go. I mean, theoretically, you could sign Corey Davis and Samuel.
Starting point is 00:38:40 And then you've got your slot and you've got a guy, by the way, also, as you said, and you reminded me occasionally lined up in the backfield. I mean, they could use Samuel in so many ways. And then you've got, you've got Corey and you've got McLaren. I mean, they tendered Sims. They like them and Sims will be on the field some too. Yeah, Sims will definitely be on the field. And I just, I think you thought you had more of a slot guy.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And with Stephen Sims and it just wasn't what I expected him to be last year based on watching him from 2019. Yeah, disappointments. Yeah, I thought there was some disappointment in that last year. And so again, in that Coriel, system, the Turner system, that slots really, really important. So I think they will sign Curtis Samuel, unless he didn't like playing in Rivera's, playing for Rivera. I don't know how that went.
Starting point is 00:39:39 But yeah, I think he would end up being a guy. Samuel's probably $8 million a year. And so then you're saying, well, what if you could cite Corey Davis for 13, 14, and Samuel for eight, it's the same. Both of those two are the same as signing one Gallaudet. Right. Or if Alan Robinson had been available. right.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah, if Alan Robinson would have been available, I would have signed Alan Robinson, but you and I both knew the Bears were going to tag him that would not be in their best interest, to let Alan Robinson go. Right. They need a tackle. I don't know what they'll do with the position.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Russell Okum is available. He's played 11 years in the league. Did you know that? Seems like Wiley came in with Trent Williams, right? Yeah, came in the same year as Trent Williams. I would if it were me, I would sign Trent Williams.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yeah. Yeah. He's not coming back here. I'll bet you any amount of money he re-signs in San Francisco. Trent told me if I was the GM, he'd come back. Yeah, I bet he did. He did. I know he did.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I'm not, you know, Eric Fisher's available. Andrew Villanueva's available. I like the guy out of Buffalo. Darrell. tie in Secki No
Starting point is 00:41:01 Darrell Williams Darrell Williams is a good player out of Buffalo I don't know They'd be crazy not to reset But is he a right tackle or a left tackle? What does Darry Williams I don't know
Starting point is 00:41:16 I don't know if any of these guys Like you might you may For me I'm not going to pay An average left tackle A lot of money because I need an average left tackle. I'll go just below average just to fill the position for right now.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Try to draft a guy. Yeah, I think they believe Sadiq Charles is a left tackle for them at some point. And if they don't, they were able to make due last year with Cornelius Lucas and Sharp and, you know, anybody else that they used over there. I'm forgetting somebody, obviously. Who was the other one that they used at left time? tackle. Dron Christian, of course. I think I would be surprised if they make a a big, a big left tackle move in free agency. I'm just not sure about anybody but
Starting point is 00:42:11 Trent. And so for me, I don't think I make that move as a big, big payday kind of deal. Right. All right. So what else? Anything else offensively? So that's what I want to do on offense. I like the rest of my offensive line as it says. right now. And I just, I think you need two weapons. I think you need a tight-inner receiver. So I'd pay money for tight-in receiver. Okay. That's where I'd go with that one. And you'd trade for a quarterback. I'd do anything for a quarterback right now. But I don't know who you're getting. I think I trade for Darnell would be the guy. I think the quarterback conversation right now is a part of like trying to plan is hard to plan for. I mean, I have, I have a, I have a couple of,
Starting point is 00:43:00 couple of guys. I'm not including Deshawn Watson or Russell Wilson or James Winston and obviously no more Dak Prescott. I'm not considering any of those people. I mean, we're really in the group of, like I would love for them to swing big for Deshawn Watson, but it would require a hell of a lot. I just don't see Watson using his no trade clause to influence where he goes picking DC. I think he picks somewhere else, like Carolina maybe. or Miami, you know, a place like that. But, all right, let's move to defense. Defensively, they obviously have a linebacker need.
Starting point is 00:43:39 They've got some secondary needs. Who have you identified defensively? Well, I love Matt Milano, but it's reported that he's sent to get, he's back with Buffalo. Me too, me too. I don't even think we've talked about that. Milano is at the top of my list. He's off. Four years, 44, $24,000, $26 guaranteed $11 million a year he got from the bills.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Boy, all the talk about him being available, I would have been surprised if Sean McDermott had made him available. He's a player. All right, go ahead. Who do you like defensively? The other guy that I like defensively is Jayon Smith. You do like him? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Or Jayon Brown. Jay and Brown, right from Tennessee. He's an off-the-ball linebacker, which fits the system. He's a coverage linebacker, which they dramatically lacked last year. He's 26 years old. He's done a lot of good things for Tennessee. But as much as they drop and as much as they depend on linebackers and coverage, I think Jayon Brown's a good player.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I would definitely, definitely sign Jayon Brown. If you wanted to think about it, KJ. Wright's 32 in Seattle. I think it's interesting. It's definitely an interesting spot. How many years are you going to get out of it? you're definitely not going to pay KJ. Wright as much money. The other guy that's a name is Denzel Perryman. Chargers linebacker, but he's a two-down backer.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I don't know. I want Luke Keechley. You know what I mean? Yeah. And Jayon Brown's probably not Luke Keekely, but he's the closest in free agency to, I mean, really getting a multiple type linebacker. God, how nice would it be?
Starting point is 00:45:29 I like Milano, though. He's a player, man. Yeah, I loved. There are a couple players like Milano that I like that I'll get to here in a moment. Anybody else to... I like Juan Alexander, but he's going to miss a big part of the season because he tore his Achilles late last year. Right. But I do.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Quant Alexander, who was in San Francisco, right, and then played for the Saints. Yeah, he was good in San Francisco. Yeah. I mean, then other than that, you're going to go down the list of guys. You're going to go down the list of dudes. I mean... By the way, on the secondary front, are you making a big push to... There's going to be a market for Darby because of the lack of real, you know, corners in free agency.
Starting point is 00:46:20 How much are you paying Darby? How much do you want him back? I think Darby's going to get real money this year. I loved what Darby did and I thought you know Darby got better in that system throughout the year
Starting point is 00:46:34 that was my thing as I'm watching Darby and I'm going he's getting better throughout the year in the system he's getting more comfortable he's making more plays
Starting point is 00:46:42 he had more past breakups as the season progressed I bet Darby's like three years, 30 million bucks though wow yeah you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:46:52 I'll bet Darby gets he's getting a real deal he's getting a real deal he's getting He's getting a real deal. I didn't even look it up on, I didn't look his deal up on Spot Rock because I looked up my,
Starting point is 00:47:04 the guy that I wanted. I just figured that they were going to do whatever it took to, to get him. Let me just see what they have. I bet he gets somewhere around $10 million a year. He's a, he's a one corner, Kev.
Starting point is 00:47:18 He's a legit starting corner outside. He played one corner. The thing I like about Darby is, although he got beat deep, maybe once or, he really doesn't get beat deep. He can turn around. He's got pretty good.
Starting point is 00:47:27 hips. Yeah, 9.2 million is the projection. So yeah, that's what I was thinking. Bump it up to 10. So, so I would definitely definitely be trying to resign Darby. If you want a true one corner, a true one corner, the Bengals did not tag William Jackson. Right. Played for a bad team, but is a legit one corner. I don't know much about William Jackson as a dude. I know that he was a big time corner in terms of one-on-one coverage. He can do what you want him to do. William Jackson's going to be expensive. Corner, really good corners are expensive. I would make an offer to William Jackson.
Starting point is 00:48:08 The other guy I like is this slot corner. His name's Mike Hilton. He played for Pittsburgh last year. Remember when we played Pittsburgh, how many plays Mike Hilton made? Yeah. My Kilton made play after play after play after play after play. Mike Hilton's a good player, man. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I think he probably would want to stay in Pittsburgh. I saw something that Mike Hilton cares about winning. I don't know what that means necessarily. Yeah, because you didn't. That's tough for me to say. They're going to sign Trey Boston. I mean, I think that's pretty obvious. Trey Boston is a free safety.
Starting point is 00:48:46 They played him in a lot more split safety looks in Carolina, and he was out of position in a new defense. I'll bet you Trey Boston's like, please just let me back into my old defense. Let me go play for Rivera. The other guy I really like is John Johnson. I have liked John Johnson since his rookie year. I think John Johnson can play. I think he's got real range on the back end.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I think he's a ball hawk. John Johnson's a legit safety, man. I don't think he gets out of L.A. I thought he played so well for them last year at times. They actually had, you know. I don't have any money, Kev. I know they don't. They're going to figure it out, though, and watch.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Somehow they're going to end up with Gala Day. That's my prediction. I don't know how, but somehow. they will. If they end up with Ghaladay, they are a Super Bowl contender. Legit. They are. They're already. Stafford. But I mean, they are, their odds will change if Gulladay goes there. I mean, I thought that that secondary with Jalen Ramsey and the rookie Fuller, Fuller, right, Jordan Fuller, and John Johnson, and I forget who the other corner was. You can tell. Ramsey. No, I already said Ramsey.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Yeah. I forget who, but that was a really, that turned into a really good secondary. Not to mention what they had up front, obviously, with Donald and Floyd and the guy, number 69, the guy that I loved before we played them with the hyphenated last name. And then Brockers they had. And remember, Kaiser, who had a good year for them, didn't even play against Washington. So I think. I think they're already a Super Bowl contender with Stafford.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I really do. All right, I'm going to give you some ideas that I have and get your reaction to them right after this word from one of our sponsors. All right. First of all, with roughly $40 million under the cap, they're going to be able to do a lot of things that they want to do. And I'm going to start real quickly with just a simple, what I want them to do with respect to the players that they have.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I want them to resign Ronald Darby. I would also like them to resign Kevin Pierre-Lewis. I want speed. I thought both of them. I thought Darby got better, as you said during the year. I think he's one of the only guys we've had in recent years that can actually play press coverage. I love, he's a football player. You could explain better why the scheme fits him, but you just saw him so close so many times to making plays. I want Darby back. I also want KPL back. I want the team speed. I want the high IQ. I want the guys that can make plays. By the way, I would also just re-sign Dustin Hopkins, and I'd bring in some sort of rookie guy to compete and make sure that Hopkins you can get out of the deal. But, you know, the whole kicker thing, you can do a lot worse than Dustin Hopkins.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Ask Minnesota. All right. Milano was a guy that I liked. So what I really – remember we've had these conversations about Micah Hyde in the past, And I'm like, I love Micah Hyde. And I remember you were like, yeah, he's okay. And I'm like, no, he's a playmaker. He makes plays.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Desmond King, to me, is like Micahide. He is just a guy that is so versatile. He can play multiple positions. And somehow he ends up making plays. And he's not going to cost you a lot in free agency. I would look at Desmond King defensively, not to mention the fact that now you don't have to worry. about punt returner. You can put him back there. He is a dangerous punt returner. I've just loved
Starting point is 00:52:38 Desmond King since the Iowa days. He had big games in a couple of games that the Chargers had that year when they ended up in the postseason. He's available. I like Desmond King. And by the way, high quality, high character, smart. 26 years old. To me, that's a guy that they would probably love. Where does he fit exactly with Fuller and with Darby? Is he more corner? Is he more free safety? He's played everywhere. He's a football player, as Scott McLuhan would say. Is he going to blow you away with athleticism? No, but he's like one of those guys that's got the athletic vision and anticipation athleticism. That's what he has, like Micah Hyde does. I like Desmond King. I think he is a winner, and I think you find a way to get him.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I felt the same way about Milano, but he's not getable anymore. I like Corey Davis because I think he's getable, and I just don't think Kenny Ghaladay is, and I don't think Smith Schuster is, and I would definitely be looking to sign a guy like Cory Davis. I know you're getting him off the one good year he's had, but he's got catch radius, he's got size, he's a hands catcher. he is he's tough and to me would be the perfect compliment to McLaren. As far as tight ends go, yeah, I'd love Hunter Henry and I would roll the dice on Hunter Henry. The injury history would bother me, but he's a star.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Like he's a true difference maker. You know, he is potentially Kelsey, you know, if he stays healthy. He's not Kelsey. He is potentially Kelsey if he stays healthy. He's potentially Zekker. Okay, fine. In Zach Hertz. What about Jordan Reed when Jordan Reed was healthy as a route runner?
Starting point is 00:54:35 No, that's not who Henry is. As a matchup guy with that size, he's very... He's a matchup guy that can win and body guys, but he's... But he's not a crossover guy? More like me than Jordan Reed. More like Ertz. He's a stem guy, create a little space guy. Jordan Reed's a quick twitch, break.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Dude's off guy. I think Henry's much more athletic in the ability to create space than you think. But anyway, no, I know exactly what Hunter Henry is. I don't think you're, I know you do. And so I'm trusting you on that. But I think he's more athletic. I'm not saying he can't. I'm just comparatively, he's not Kelsey. No one's Kelsey right now. Okay. He's a, if he starts playing 16 games a year, he's a guy. He's an 80 catch guy a year. 80 catch, eight touchdown, some years, maybe 90. he catches in 12 touchdowns. You're not going to get him, though. I don't think you're going to get Henry.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Why? I don't know. I don't know. Why are you not going to get Henry? I just think that there are going to be so many options for him to play with a big-time quarterback somewhere. I think the lack of a quarterback will hurt with, you know, a Gala Day or would have hurt with an Alan Robinson and will hurt to a certain degree with Hunter Henry.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I understand what you're saying, but my selling point to Hunter Henry would be with Dwayne Haskins and Alex Smith and Kyle Allen, Logan Thomas got 72 balls. Yeah, I understand. More than you've ever caught in your career. We made, we got this guy 72 balls. If we have you, you're a 90 catch guy. We can get you 90 balls. Logan Thomas had 110 targets. I would go play for any team that.
Starting point is 00:56:26 was going to target me 110 times. He just played with Justin Herbert. It doesn't matter. They didn't target him. Do you think he looks at Taylor Heineke and Kyle Allen? I think he looks at the game plan. Okay. Really? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Would you just look at the game plan or would you want to play with a real dynamic quarterback option? Well, I'd like both, but I'm signing a four or five year deal here. Right. I definitely want to be in a game plan that suits me, knowing that it might be Andy Dalton at some point, or it might be a guy that you end up getting in the next year that can really play.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I don't know. I want to look at Wednesday's game plan and go, God, I catch eight balls this week. Versus look at Wednesday's game plan and go, well, they created two plays for me. Another than that, I'm third, fourth option. I love the system for a tight end here. Did you know that Logan Thomas caught the third most balls last year for a tight end behind Waller and Kelsey?
Starting point is 00:57:32 Yeah. Now there was a big difference. Waller had 107 receptions. Kelsey had 105. And then it was Logan Thomas with 72 ahead of Hawkinson, Angram, and Dalton Schultz. Hunter Henry, I mean, he only played 14 games. He missed two games. He cut 60 balls.
Starting point is 00:57:50 I was just looking to see where Logan Thomas stacked up that's much higher than I really thought. So I guess you could make the pitch to him. We got Logan Thomas 72 receptions on 110 targets with four different quarterbacks, four. Yeah, four. And you're saying, look, the thing with without having the legit one quarterback, we're going to need the tight end.
Starting point is 00:58:20 I would trade for Darnold. I would, Andy Dalton wouldn't scare me at all. I thought he played better at the end of the year. And Ryan Fitzpatrick, I think, would be really exciting to see, although I just think he would probably pick somewhere else if he's got options. By the way, I wanted to mention something real quickly. I really like Eric Wilson coming off his last couple of years in Minnesota despite the injury. I think he's really smart, really well, you know, well-coached kind of a guy, but it wouldn't surprise me if he's back in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:58:58 And then somebody texted me this. They said, your boy, Mike Davis is available. You didn't mention him this morning on the show. JP mentioned him. So I'm assuming he's talking about JP Finley. You know how much. Probably. You know how much I loved Mike Davis when he was coming out of South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I loved him. And I thought that was a fourth, fifth. round selection, third round selection that Washington should make and should go for. And he, now, I have not thought of running back because to me, the Gibson-McKissick combo is a pretty good combo. And whether or not Peyton Barber is back with you or not, you've got a nice, you know, thing going with Gibson and McKissick. So, you know, you need depth at running back. I understand that. But Mike Davis is going to want to get 20 carries a game wherever he goes. so it's not going to be here.
Starting point is 00:59:52 So I don't, even if it is back with former head coach, former, you know, coordinator, you know, in terms of, you know, who brought him in because they brought him in to Carolina. The thing that about Davis is Davis is a between the tackles, also can catch the ball. Gibson's more dynamic. And also, by the way, equally is powerful. So I'm not, I loved Mike Davis coming out. It's five, six years ago now that he came out. You know, and he had with all of the opportunities he's had,
Starting point is 01:00:33 his best year was last year. And still he averaged 3.9 yards per carry. Right. So, you know, Davis is going to want more carries. If he doesn't get that opportunity and I can get him on the cheap and he can be my other first down option, although you and I both loved it when McKissick was a first down option. But he's not going to be, so let's not worry about that.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Yeah. Well, I don't know why he wouldn't be. I mean, I'm talking about, you know, when occasionally for a series when Gibson's, you know, taking a rest. Yeah, on occasion, sure. Yeah. I'm not opposed to a back. I think Gibson can do more than what they had him do.
Starting point is 01:01:17 but they see him as a one back. That's clearly what it looks like to me. I agree. So that's why I think the Mike Davis thing, I think Davis, I mean, I haven't thought about him other options. You know, and let's face it, he got a lot more carries and a lot more opportunities last year, in part because, you know, McCaffrey was down for much of the year.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Sure. But anyway, Mark Ingram just signed with the Texans, sort of a similar back. And anyway, so, you know, I would have, the bills, Matt Milano was going to be my number one guy along with Corey Davis. He's not there. I like Desmond King. I like Corey Davis. I want to keep Darby.
Starting point is 01:02:02 I'd like to keep KPL. The linebacker thing, Jalen Brown, was, you know, sort of number two to Milano. They may have to solve that problem in the draft. And, you know, realistic quarterbacks, if they're, if they're continuing. to swing. You know, the Marriota thing doesn't excite me, but it doesn't turn me off. None of these things really turn me off except for what I told you before, and he's not going to be available anyway. I just, I'm not a massive Derek Carr fan. And so whatever they were going to have to give up, if that was even going to be a possibility, I wasn't into that. I'm not really
Starting point is 01:02:42 into Tyrod Taylor or Jacoby Brissette anymore. There was a time that I was sort of into Brissette. You know, if you sign Dalton and it's a cheap one-year deal, and we're seeing it, we're going to see a lot of one-year deals with the cap being down. You know, you bring him in, you compete. If there aren't a lot of options for Dalton, I wouldn't mind that. It's not going to cost you a lot. And Winston's just not going to be available. He's staying put. There's no chance that New Orleans doesn't resign him.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Not a Garoppolo guy if he were available. we've gone through this before. You know, right now to me, the real options, you know, if you, I mean, Tyrod Taylor, Jacobi Bressett, Fitzpatrick, Dalton, Darnold via a trade if he's made available. I mean, I think I'd think in terms of Darnold for a second, because I think you have the potential future of your franchise. But I wouldn't mind taking a one-year flyer on Dalton for $4 million or whatever it would cost you. Fitzpatrick's more expensive.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Marriota, you get the incentive part of the contract if he ends up starting for you. I'm not worried about that. If they end up getting him for like next to nothing, called a fifth or sixth rounder, and he ends up being the guy, then it's worth it. I don't really think, even though I used to be a Bridgewater fan,
Starting point is 01:04:10 I don't think he's physically ever been right off of that injury. He didn't play poorly last year, though. But you have to acquire Bridgewater. You've got to trade for Bridgewater. He's under contract at $21 million a year. So I'm not interested in that. I'm not interested in Trubisky anymore either. There was a time where I wouldn't have minded trying to fix that
Starting point is 01:04:33 if Turner thought he could fix it. But God did that playoff game against the Saints change my mind. That one gutless play. It was more than one. It was multiple gutless plays. I saw a guy that. basically quit with his team defensively keeping them in that game. Yeah, I hear you.
Starting point is 01:04:52 It's never been a big Trubitsky guy, so. I gave you Maryland over Michigan State at the very end of the podcast yesterday. I'll give you a quick prediction on Maryland, Michigan when we come back right after this word from one of our sponsors. Maryland was super impressive yesterday against Michigan State. If you didn't think they were in the tournament, which they were, they're obviously in it now definitively. their defense over the final 30 minutes against Michigan State was awesome to watch. It's what they are. They've got an identity.
Starting point is 01:05:28 They're a terrific perimeter defensive team. Without size, they double the post when they're playing size, but they recover with their length. They're just really good defensively. And it was good to see them bounce back off of that, you know, horrific loss to Penn State on Sunday night. But if you watch Penn State, you know that Penn State was pretty good. They nearly knocked off Wisconsin. It was an incredible comeback. They had had all these comebacks recently, including the comeback win over Maryland.
Starting point is 01:05:55 I thought TURG coached his ass off. I thought he out-coached Izzo, sorry for those of you who are anti-Turge, and I love Izzo. Maryland clearly matches up well with Michigan State. The teams that they don't match up well with are teams like the one they're going to face today, Michigan. Teams with significant size. And then, by the way, shooters.
Starting point is 01:06:16 And Marilyn likes to double the post, and if you double the post, they're going to have to hope Michigan shoots 33% or less. It's their only chance, and they're going to have to maximize every offensive possession. This is the worst possible matchup, but I look forward to it. They're in the tournament, and they're going to be in the tournament as a 10 seed, you know, maybe an 11 seed. If they play well today, I guess it could still be a 9. I don't want to be an 8 or a 9 facing a 1 in the second round if you win a first round game. I'd rather be 10 or 11 and face, you know, a 6 or a 7 seed, which isn't going to be any different than the nine seed you're going to face or the eight seed you're going to face.
Starting point is 01:06:54 It's just that if you win a game, you get a chance to legitimately play a team you could beat in the second round. Maryland can't beat Gonzaga. They can't beat Baylor. They can't beat Michigan, I don't think. So they wouldn't be matched up in that draw anyway with a big 10 team in a second round game, more likely than not. I'm just pleased with the way they played yesterday. They're getting eight and a half today. I'd buy it.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I'd buy the half point to nine. and just play Maryland, expecting them to play well today. It's not a great matchup. The public's on Michigan. So I would bet Maryland maybe a little bit or lean. Not like yesterday. I love them yesterday. And I had them coolly for size, as we like to say.
Starting point is 01:07:39 But it's been a hell of a season to watch them sort of evolve from a team that really didn't have a lot of answers to size. a big league. And they, they've really, yesterday was impressive. They were down 12 early and then went on a 32 to 7 run. They held Michigan State without a field goal for 12 minutes at the end of the first half through the first, you know, six minutes plus of the second half. It was just an impressive performance in a game that they didn't have to have, I don't think, to get into the tournament, but they needed it for their confidence and they got it done. By the way, Georgetown's went over Villanova. I know Villanova's banged up, but the Hoyas have a chance if they beat Seton Hall today,
Starting point is 01:08:25 which they can beat Seton Hall. They just did a few weeks ago to be in the Big East tournament final, you know, tomorrow night. That would be huge. By the way, Virginia's game, a semi-final against Georgia Tech just got canceled. Virginia's got a positive COVID test. So a lot of shit happening on the COVID front as well. But I'm going to sit back. I watched a lot of college basketball yesterday, Cooley. I watched a lot of golf as we're recording this podcast right now. Denny McCarthy right from here. We've had Denny on the show many times. Denny's uncle's a friend of mine. I coach Denny's cousins in basketball. Denny is six under one shot behind Sergio Garcia for the lead at the players. So I will be watching Denny today as well, hoping and over the
Starting point is 01:09:13 weekend hoping he ends up being in contention for his first, you know, significant tour win. That would be incredible. What else? What else you got for me? Because I want to roll and watch some hoops. I'm excited. I'm going to go watch Maryland play. Good for you. I'll talk to you over the weekend. Thanks. See you, buddy. All right, everybody, have a great weekend back on Monday.

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