The Kevin Sheehan Show - Cooley On Loss To Cowboys

Episode Date: November 25, 2024

Kevin had a little bit more to add to yesterday's "Game-Take" and then Chris Cooley jumped on to share his thoughts on Washington's 34-26 loss to Dallas.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheehan Show. Here's Kevin. Coolie's going to be on the show with me today coming up in the next segment and the final segment. I'm going to get to it pretty quickly because we recorded it just a little while ago. And it was good, really good.

He went back and watched the entire game this morning after he was on a bus watching part of it on his phone coming back from a wrestling tournament somewhere in Nebraska or Colorado. But it was long our conversation and his thoughts on the game, but I didn't want to edit it down too much because I think you guys probably want as much coolly as you can get, especially when he has taken the time to watch the entire game. So to keep the show within a reasonable time frame, this open. segment will be super short and then we'll get to Chris. Wind Donation is the presenting sponsor of this podcast.

Call them at 86690 Nation or head to windonation.com. I did a full recap, full post game following the game yesterday. My game take, what I like, didn't like, you know, all of the other stuff. That's on yesterday's show dated November 24th. It was less than an hour. So if you've already listened to it, you've gotten my game take, although I'm going to update a couple of things here quickly in a moment. If you have it, you want to go listen to it. It's just there in previous episodes by pulling up the November 24th episode. Not much changed from my game take after watching the game again this morning, except for just a couple of things.

The first is this. I talked about the line of scrimmage being controlled by Dallas, both sides of the line of scrimmage. That was true. That didn't really change. One update to that, though, I actually thought that at times the pass protection was decent. I think their issues were much more in the interior of their offensive line. And I went back specifically because I'd taken notes, and I didn't mention this, I don't think I mentioned it in my game take last night,

but I talked about it on radio earlier this morning that Brandon Coleman, after two really difficult games against Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, I thought he did a really good job in pass pro. Now, he did not have to deal with Parsons a lot. Micah Parsons ended up lining up inside a lot in yesterday's game, or more than usual, or maybe just more than I would have expected. But I thought Brandon Coleman, you know,

after bad games against Pittsburgh and Philly, I think he bounced back nicely, and I did not have him on my list of things that I liked. I did put him on that this morning on radio. Secondly, I thought Jaden had more opportunities in the Reed Option game to keep it. I noticed that a little bit more after watching the game. As I mentioned yesterday, he was an A-plus as a runner yesterday. But there were chances for him to pull it more on read option style plays. There was a third and short on the opening drive of the second half when they went down and scored a touchdown, missed the PAT to make it 9 to 3.

And he could have kept it and probably scored on that play. They ended up scoring anyway, and he scored on a touchdown run. And there were another one to two plays during the course of the game where I think he, you know, they were not playing. him. They were crashing down on the back, and I think he could have kept it. Look, you know, if they crashed down on the back the entire game, he's going to rush for 100 plus yards in some of these games. And I think a 100-plus-yard game was there for the taking for him. I gave him a B-minus yesterday overall, A-plus as a runner and kind of C-ish in the past game.

That didn't really change. I thought that there were opportunities for him to maybe have hang in there a little bit longer and throw from a more well-protected pocket. He was pressured a lot. Don't get me wrong. But there were some opportunities for him to hang in there a little bit longer and even some opportunities for him to unload it a little bit quicker. Lastly, we did all of the second guesses last night on the game take, you know, the two-point conversion, the decision to kick that field goal from 51 yards out with a minute 40 to go.

The one that, you know, to me is not debatable because the other stuff, I think, was debatable in the moment and afterwards, is you can't kick to Turpin. Now, he explained after the game, and I didn't have this last night, that they may not have been able to kick deep enough into the end zone to keep it away from Turpin with Austin Cybert yesterday. Why not? is it because he was not completely healthy? He was healthy enough to kick field goals, healthy enough to kick into the landing zone, but if they needed a kick through the back of the end zone, he couldn't do it.

See, facing Dallas yesterday, Turpin was the one guy in that uniform for them that could really hurt you on one play. He and C.D. Lamb, and so you really shouldn't have been kicking the ball to him. And I have said all season long, I think they've been a very good coverage team. Their special teams have been outstanding in the coverage area.

But that was not a time for two reasons. One, you don't put it in his hands with the game on the line. And number two, you don't want clock to burn. Give it to them at the 30. You got two timeouts. You know, at that point, you know, there are still three minutes left in the game. That's the one that really you needed to think about that before the game Sunday. and if it meant keeping Zane Gonzalez is the kicker for this particular game

because he had the ability if you needed to to keep it away from Turpin, but apparently they didn't have that option. I got this from Jared. Jared wrote, Daniels has hit the rookie wall, Kevin. The Steelers are a top five defense. The Eagles may be the best defense. That's excusable. Yesterday, he was a rookie.

against a bad football team. Hopefully he has a second win. Yeah, I don't know how you look at Jaden's game yesterday and use that game as a hit the rookie wall bit. You know, I gave him a B-minus for the game. A-plus as a runner. He was far down the list of reasons that they didn't beat the Cowboys yesterday.

In fact, he was basically all of their offense as a runner. And, you know, I know a lot of his passing yardage came in that, you know, final drive prior to the Terry play. 86 of it came on the Terry throw. But, you know, he basically had of his 275 yards passing, I think it was like 160 of them on the final two drives. He did not have a big passing day going into that.

I recognize that. There were also balls dropped three or four times. in the game and some big drops by Noah Brown that were first down, you know, chain movers that would have been big. PFF, by the way, just if you're interested, Jared, take it for what it's worth, had him as an 86.5 yesterday, the highest graded player in the football game, either side yesterday. You know, I'm not changing my Cish as a passer after watching it for a second time. Now, you'll hear with Cooley that we kind of both got access to the All-22 as we were recording our conversation. So there were a couple of things that became a little bit more

clear. But bottom line is, I had him as an A-plus runner, C-ish as a passer, put him in the B-minus area, B-area. That's what he was yesterday. That wasn't the game in which you say he hit the rookie wall. The offense as a whole wasn't as productive as it's been. They punted too much. All of that is true. But yeah, your point about Pittsburgh and Philly is a good one. I mean, did you see Philadelphia last night? We didn't do any of the other NFL games yesterday, and we're not going to do that today, but I will mention Philly was awesome last night. 37 to 20, seven straight wins. They sacked Stafford five or six times. It was domination. And of course, Sequin Barclay had a record-setting performance for the Philadelphia Eagles rushing for 255 yards.

He is certainly worthy of MVP consideration. We can see what happens here over the next few weeks with, you know, obviously Lamar and Josh Allen, and Barclay has probably entered that conversation. I'll check the odds maybe tomorrow. but Barclay, 26 for 255. And oh, by the way, four catches for 47 yards. He has been a game changer. But I'll tell you, a big part of why Philadelphia is on his seven-game win streak is their defense.

It's awesome. And I think right now, Denver, Philly, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, who am I forgetting defensively? Those are the best defensive teams in the league. The chargers are really good defensively, too. But man, Philly is something else. That is for sure. All right. Let's get to Cooley.

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So what did you think of this very painful but pretty wild loss to the Cowboys yesterday? Who's your kicker, man? Austin Cybert. I know who it is. My God, what's he doing today? Yeah, he was pretty broken up afterwards. I mean, pretty emotional. You know, he had been hurt, Cooley, and had missed the last few games.

After starting the season for them, you know, they had Cade York to start the season. Do you know the kicker history here of the 2024 Washington squad? They signed Brandon McManus, paid him in free agency. He had allegations, sexual harassment allegations. They cut him. Turns out those allegations, I guess, were dropped. He's now kicking for somebody, and I'm forgetting for whom. They went through a bunch of kickers during preseason, settled on Cade York for the opener against Tampa. He missed two kicks. They cut him, and they signed Austin Cybert. In his first game against the Giants in week two,

he went seven for seven. It was all of their points. And he was 25 of 20. 27 on the season before getting hurt a few weeks ago. And yesterday was his first game back. His replacement, Zane Gonzalez, didn't miss a kick either. And then yesterday, he missed a field goal, and he obviously missed two PATs. Yeah, Zay Gonzalez is sitting at home saying, you're wrong. You guys are so wrong. Fucked that one up.

Yeah. Dude, it's so hard to lose a game that way. And I know that they're going to go to overtime. Did you think at the moment they were in that with Jane Daniels, you just go for the win right there? Yeah, I mean, I said that, well, let me ask you, as you're watching it. I'll add to my thought processes. I'm watching the game from the start.

You missed a field goal. You've already missed an extra point. By the way, there's a moment in, I think the first kickoff in the third quarter that he has, he's basically, he kicks it essentially out of bounds. Turpin, all he's got to do is filled it one foot in, one foot out, and out of bound to kickoff. Good point. Turpin, for some dumb-ass reason, picks it up and tries to return it.

Really? Realistically, he realistically should have went, miss. Muggle, missed extra point, out-of-bounds kickoff. Yeah, that's a really good point. Turpin had a third. He had a 38-yard return, a 30-yard return, and then he had a 13-yard return, but it, It's because of what you said.

He should have fielded it with one foot out of bounds, and the ball would have gone to the 35. But he didn't do that. And he ended up trying to run that one back, and that's the only good kick coverage they had all day. Yeah, they weren't great on kick coverage all day. Even the first kickoff of the day, they take back to, what, the 35? More than that.

Yeah, it was a 38-yard return. So it was, yeah, three-yard steep in the end zone. He returned it to the 35. I don't know why anybody returns the ball three yards deep in the end of this point but I mean he did well he's the best kickoff returner in the game I know it's pretty good

he's got a you know I noticed something he's got a decent spin move yeah you notice that how about that that was insane well that was insane obviously I know the outcome of this game as I'm watching this one

right so I'm tainted on how I feel about the decision because I know what decisions already been made. But I really think in watching that game and understanding, by the way, both kickers were bad. The Lekker was bad. Both special teams were bad. It was crazy special teams. Good. I don't know.

It's actually funny because we're going to watch the Green Bay 49ers game after that, which we watched a lot of it. But, buddy, one of our wresters is a diehard Packers fan, and San Francisco's got everyone else. And you sit there and say, you know how you really lose this game. You're dog crap on special teams. You have up some big-time special teams plays. The good thing for Green Bay,

San Francisco's been terrible on special teams later. But that's how Washington, when you're much better than a team, and they should be, you can't be bad, really bad in special teams. they were. So.

Anyways, in the moment that I'm watching this game, I just have this feeling, it's not, where do you, where's your best position to score points? Is it really with your kicker at this point? Or is it with the quarterback who can do multiple things? And my thought process is, it's probably with a quarterback,

and we win the game with that. Well, we still have to kick off, I guess. Right. And then you're, you know, give them the fourth down, but there were 21 seconds left, so that's not as much of a factor. Unless you have Terry McLaurin on a sideline play. Yeah.

How did he, before we get to, okay, so you would have gone for two, even though you, but you were watching it, knowing the result. I'm just sitting here proposing it. I can say I would have done whatever we've done. I had a feeling, and I know when watching that game in real time without understanding the score, I would have sat there and thought, do I really put this other dude back out here? Do I really put a Siebert back out on the field right now? Now, he had made the previous kick. He had made the 51-yarder to make it 27 to 20.

Correct. And also, in somewhat of his defense, the ball hit the ground on the snap. No, it's a bad snap. Yes. It's a terrible snap. Yeah. But he had missed a PAT after the touchdown to start the third quarter. So he had not missed a PAT all season long, FYI, until he missed the one in the third quarter.

And then the snap obviously was not a great snap. I mean, it's just, it's one of those deals, man. Most days, I'm pretty damn good with my driver. It just happens to be the one day that I can't hit it. I'm taking out my three wood. And then I'm really thinking about three wood here. I, fuck it, I might hit a five iron. I can't hit this driver.

I can't keep it in play. But you, yeah. No, I know some days you just can't hit the driver. But you know what? I keep swinging. I don't like it in the three wood off the tee. Kick it again. You crush your three wood.

Kick it again. Put him out there. I mean, the other part of this conversation is take out the, let's just imagine he's going to make it. My belief is I'm going to beat Dallas in overtime. I'm a better team. Right. So why would I risk it in one play?

Right. Now, I mean, that would be, I'm sure that's exactly how Dan Quint felt. And that's how I would feel, just watching the game. But they played really average, and they made mistakes throughout the entire day. And they let a bad team hang around. Yeah. in the moment I was like

just let Jaden run a play here he had scored on the two-point conversion to make it 20 to 17 he's the best option you have right now they're probably reeling that was more emotional

when I saw him put the one finger up which he did very quickly I didn't have a problem with it it's a very debatable issue there are lots of people usually on the internet that basically said, well, you have to go for two there. You've got to be aggressive. Well, no, actually you don't. Because you, what you just laid out, you know, you probably believe you're the better team regardless of how the day's gone and it was not going

well until the very end. They have a kicker, by the way, and Brandon Aubrey, who's got the biggest leg in the league. Basically, you only have to get to about the 45-yard line. He's already kicked a 64-yarder, two 64-yarders this year. Now, you can't end it on the first possession with a field goal, but I had no problem with Quinn making that decision, and I would have had no problem if he had gone for the two. Yeah, I don't, I'm, I also feel the same way. I don't think that there's a stake made there. I just, with a little bit of a gut feeling about how your kickers played, I would feel even better about the two-point conversion had he chosen to go for two. I think the bigger mistake.

Then you got to go stand on the podium and they're like, why'd you go for two? Like, my heart kicker dog shit all day. I just couldn't, couldn't bear to put that guy back out there. Right. Now, I think the big. biggest mistake down the stretch was kicking to Turpin. And I understand that it was a very good kickoff. You know, it landed in the landing zone. It hit the ground. It went between his legs. He had to turn around and go back and get it. I mean, we as NFL fans know that sometimes that means a big return is more possible or more likely. But I would have never, now Quinn basically suggested that it wasn't as easy as you may have thought it was for him to just kick it

to touchback land. And if that's the case, you've got to find a kicker who can kick it out of the end zone. It's why they created this new rule, because people were kicking it out of the end zone too much. And so if you've got one of the guys that can't kick it into touchback territory, and I understand the issues they've had with kickers, you know, and they found a guy that's been great on field goals all year long. But you just can't kick to Turpin in that spot.

You just can't. You know, you don't want the clock to run, first of all, on a return. And the guy's already had, you know, he's already averaged basically 34 and a half yards per return with the exception of the one that you described, which was just a mistake made by him on a bad kickoff. That to me was the bigger mistake. And how do you avoid that if you don't have a kicker who can kick it out of the end zone? Have him kick it as far into the end zone as he can in hopes, and hope that Turpin doesn't bring it out?

Well, Turpin's bringing that one out. Yeah, well, you got to have... Thurpin's bringing that one out nine yards deep because that's the best opportunity that they have to score in it. Well, you've got to find somebody that can kick it out of the end zone in that spot. You know, this guy, Zane Gonzalez, had a couple touchback kicks in the games that he was kicking. If there was a question about Cybert's health, you should have had Zane Gonzalez kicked this week.

especially given the returner. He was somebody, I mean, I talked about him on Friday. He's a guy that can completely impact a game, and you can't let him do that. He's now got a kickoff return for a touchdown, a punt return. He leads the league in punt return yardage. I think he's second and kickoff return yardage. You just can't give him those kinds of opportunities. But they did, and they paid for it.

And yet, and yet, they threw an 86-yard pass to Terry McClearn. Tell me what Dallas did poorly on that play and what Washington did well. I think what's amazing is we described the situation breaking down Hell Mary last time I was on with you and playing the sideline. I did it with somebody. I was doing it with somebody, a buddy or something. and it's like a lot of times that's a sideline play. I mean, you're kind of wheeling him out and you're sending a couple guys vertical

to push depth with the deeper defensive backs. You're trying to attack the sideline between 17, 18, to 30 yards over the top of the first sideline players. A lot of times those first sideline players will set up shop at, you know, 12, 13, 14 yards,

expecting that you're going to quickly attack the sideline. That's created to get the ball to the sideline and go ahead and get the ball out of bounds. Terry just did a phenomenal job, understanding where he was and understanding open space. It was absolutely incredible by McCorn. But if you're not doing a better job of playing levels

on the sideline, in terms of levels of depth on the sideline, you get into some of those situations. It was a very good play. It's a lot of teams practice and work. It's almost like what Minnesota ran a couple years ago with Kirk when they had that last second, deep sideline shot that they ran it out. If you can think of that.

It was against Buffalo a few years ago. Okay. It was the amazing comeback they had against Buffalo. Oh, you mean Minnesota you're talking about? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, that kind of play where. Dallas just didn't have enough underneath depth to cover. They had too much underneath coverage.

They didn't get depth with some of that coverage. And so he's behind two or three guys that are playing a level at 13 yards. He's at 20 or 25. or however deep he cut it. It's a hell of a throw, it to help of play. The other aspect that they completely mess up, if you're going to allow this to happen, you have to, they have to go tackle.

That's the part that's amazing to me, is that at one point after the catch, there are like five guys within the frame, and nobody touches him. They don't even touch him. You know, when I went back and looked at it this morning, and I don't have it up in front of me right now, and I'm going to pull it up real quickly,

But part of me wants to just look to see if they were playing the sidelines so he wouldn't go out of bounds. And if that really impacted once he cut it back into the field of play, they wanted to tackle him in bounds as they probably thought he was going to head out of bounds. And that's what really screwed them. I mean, most importantly, you do need to tackle him. Yes. A lot of times when you're playing sideline like that, they're playing it to deter the sideline throw.

Right. Now all of a sudden, you're like, shoot. They got it what they wanted it. You can't just think because you're there. It's a deterrent. You just have to play the combination, the route combination. You know, Terry's been such a good receiver, but one of the things that you don't necessarily see with him all the time,

is that, you know, Tarikil, Jamar Chase kind of acceleration and just running away from people. I know he's got very good speed, but it's something that we've seen him caught before, you know? He completely runs through and through everybody and never gets touched.

It's a really good throw, too. Here it is. I've got it up here. It's an incredible throw. It does look like... It's one of those amazing deals where it's like, how much time's left in the game here? There was it 33? 33 seconds left. No timeouts. It does look like one of the defenders coming over to him is going to try to keep him in bounds,

but Terry literally cuts it back, you know, into the field of play. And then, I mean, it's... Noah Brown doesn't know. nice job. I didn't pick up on this before. Noah Brown does a nice job. Helping the mountain. Shilding downfield, he definitely does. Yeah. No, it's, but it's

like, I'm going to pull it up to, but number two for Dallas is like softly back peddling at 12 yards with eyes of the quarterback. Like, dude, get to 20, you want them to throw the ball at 8 to 10 yards here. Right. Fine.

I mean, as it moves, as they progress the ball a little bit further down, make them make a throw and catch. They progress the ball further down the field. We can become tighter in our coverage to some extent. But you want them to throw the ball in bounds. You want them to go ahead and take that short throw. Get depth. You can't allow the deeper throw.

Yeah. It was number two, wasn't it? If you have it up? Yeah, I'm looking at the all. 22 now, which is actually available in this place. So I just want to... Oh, nice. Yeah, it does look like it's number

two. Yeah, it's Jordan Lewis. Yeah, who had been out a couple of games, and he's backing up not with enough depth, is what you're saying. Yep. No, I want, if I'm playing defense

there, I want him to throw the checkdown. Probably Echler. Of course. I want him to throw it underneath to Equator in that situation. or to throw it to a checkdown tight end at 12 yards and see if I can get them in bounds. Don't give a shit about those guys right now. 30 seconds left. Make them make a throw and catch, see if they do something. Just don't give them the easy play.

But for Jay Daniels and for Terry McClure, it's just an unbelievable job. Incredible. You know, and when you, they really, the concept, obviously, is to flood that side of the field. You know, and you've got, you know, you've got to check down in Echler coming down below, but Jaden's not even looking at him. It's an insane play. Insane. Wow. I'm just sitting here thinking about how insane it is.

And then the fact that you walk out there, you miss a P.A.T. Oh, it's just sickening. If I'm sitting on the Dallas side, I would be laughing hysterically. It'd be like a dumb and dumber cackle laugh. Like when Jim Carrey points and laughs in his face. You did that. How did you do that? You know.

I mean, God, he didn't even get close. By the way, the first one he hit from 51, as I'm sitting here. Yeah. The first kick of the day I wrote, that looks like when Kevin's drive. No, it was the second. He made.

He made his first. Yeah, the second. The one he misses, he completely, completely miss hits. Yeah. We're not just talking about a ball that you put too much, you put a little bit too much draw, and you just missed the left up right.

Yeah. Well, I hate it. You yanked it. Yeah. No, I'm just, I, that was the joking. No, no, no, no. I'm just saying that, you know, you don't know this, but I don't hit the draw anymore.

I now have switched to hitting, you know, the power fade off the T. Less, less margin for error. Yeah, just gut-wrenching. But they didn't deserve to be in that position. They didn't play well enough. Dallas didn't play great either. You know, I know I told you this yesterday,

but Washington was an 11-point favorite over the Cowboys. That's how bad the Cowboys are and have been. they were a terrible team coming into this game. I don't know how closely you've been paying attention, but here are some of the scores they've gotten beaten by, 44 to 19, 47 to 9, 34 to 6, 34 to 10. They had a makeshift offensive line coming into this game. They'd Cooper Rush.

They were a horrible running team. couldn't run the football. They ran the football yesterday. They couldn't protect him. They protected him yesterday. They couldn't stop the run. Now, Brian Robinson... RICO Dowdell was all over the place. Some of those quick toss plays? Yeah. Come on. It's Rico Dowdell. It's Rico Dowdell. He had the second best day he's had all season long. And... Which is now the second best day of his life. Well, he's actually had a couple games. I know. But then I thought on Friday, you just, this is one of those games.

You just, Brian Robinson Jr. ends up with, you know, 18 carries, 20 carries, 120 yards, and is sitting in the fourth quarter. You know, they've had a couple of those games, but he got hurt on the first play of the game. That was a hip drop, right? That was a hip-drop tackle. Yeah, it looks like it. And so you didn't have him healthy? I mean, without number five in this game, you know, which at least, and you haven't been part and parcel to this, but at least we can put the conversation about whether he is injured or isn't injured to the side,

because the dude basically was an A plus as a runner. You would agree with that, right? Here's my question. Do you think he should have run more on zone reads? It seemed like there were a couple of them that he should have kept it. I thought you have some pull options there throughout the day. I think that when they started to get going was when he started to pull the ball a little bit more, which is late in the game.

Okay. Immediate thoughts throughout the entirety is that you're looking at a game that starts with ball on the Dallas 40 field goal, on your own 32, miss field goal, Dallas 47 punt where I thought maybe you could have went for it there Dallas 42 or your own 42 punt on the Dallas 39 you throw a pick

this is a day that they had great field position to start the second half and then you finish you finish a half by giving them some bomb throw that you should never give up

and you're it's not like they dominated but you're in a game that you surely had an opportunity to dominate and score more points. They've done nothing, and now you're letting them right back into a ballgame. You get to the second half, you score, and then all of a sudden your defense

says, oh, cool, let them get the momentum right back, take it down the field and score. Take the lead. It's a weird game to talk about, too, because there's a lot of stuff that happens in that what, 13 to 9 margin, the 20 to 9, There's a lot of weird stuff that happens to that process as well.

Yeah, the play... That's almost not even important anymore because it really has no bearing on the game. It was like a five-minute span of the game where you're like, this wasn't this part of... Just cut this part out. Well, the Bates Fumble was a critical play because that allowed them to extend the lead to two scores. The Bates Fumble is a critical play, in my opinion. I thought the chin-hit is a complete pass,

and I think that's a fumble on like the 14-yard line. Yeah. That's a catch. You thought so? I thought so. If you want to go by the definition of control and a football move, but he's falling to not take a hit, he controls the ball completely.

Fortune hits him in the back. What a big hit that was. I thought of his catch. And then the Eckler fumbles, the idiotic, where you're just in a situation where Eckler fumbles is an absolute go-out-of-bounds right there situation. And then he fumbles. Yeah.

Like, what are you cutting this up into two players here to take 30 seconds out the clock? Because you might get two more yards. Wait, which player are you talking about right there? Sorry. On the kickoff return? No, no, the Austin Eklift fumble. We're just talking about it. The one that Terry recovered.

That Terry magically recovers, and that's a phenomenal play. but that's, I thought that plays idiotic. I just thought it was complacent throughout the day in terms of what they were doing. Yeah. I'm looking at this. The one thing I thought, go ahead. Go ahead. No, I think the call on the field, I'm not surprised that the call in the field stood on the chin hit.

I mean, I think it would have been certainly a fumble had they called it a fumble. I think the call on the field was going to stand. That was. Yeah. It's hard to overturn the collar of the field, but I think that's fumbled. Yeah. What a big hit. Chin's played so well this year, Cooley, so well.

He has, but they also have a blown coverage from Chin. Yeah. That's after the Bates Fumble when they threw to Schoonmaker, the tight end. Is that Chin thinking he's got help? Yeah, it's, I don't know what they end up checking to or what they end up getting into. It looks like they get into or check into something. and to me it looks like they're trying to play halves on one side of the field, and they probably should end up playing quarters on the other side of the field.

They blitz. Cover half the field with one safety, cover the other half with the safety in a corner deep. But it could also be the single high safety who decided he would just go play two on the other side. It's really strange that he went to play a half coverage on the other side of the field. Right. Because they had a trip to the side that they have the bone coverage on. They had three receivers to that side.

and he goes to play two over one on the other side. They've actually been... They'll discuss. I mean, they know what it is. It's whatever they checked or didn't check into. It's pretty rare that you have a call it, let it stand coverage, and there's a blown coverage. It's some communication in the process before the ball is now.

I think this has happened a couple times this year. Mark Andrews scored in a touchdown similar to that one in the game that they lost against the Ravens, where he was wide open in the end zone and then the Giants tight end, and I can't remember the dude's name, was wide open on a play right down the seam as well. So they've struggled on a couple of these this year. I don't know if it was the exact play, but clearly he should not have been that wide open. No, usually we try to make sure that guys aren't completely free.

That's a goal. What's the most open you've ever been for a touchdown? Do you remember? I don't. I know in recall that there's been a couple times where I was that open and the ball was not thrown to me. Like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. But a lot of times it's odd because it's something's blown so it's not in the normal register of a quarterback.

It's immediately since blown coverage. Right. like if they're looking the other side of the field and there's a blown coverage but yeah he was we had to try to cover those guys and the other thing too

is they protected Rush Washington didn't sniff them all day long that was a five-man pressure and they with a makeshift offensive line blocked them up well all day long and it's yeah

you know they just didn't get near Cooper Rush for crying out loud. The guy completed 75% of the passes in the game. How many to this guy, C.D. Mams pretty good. We should start trying to cover him, too.

He's pretty good. I mean, he had 10 catches. He's open throughout. Yeah, he was open a lot. So, like, defensively, my thought process on this is, are they really a team that's a threat to dynamically

football? No. Am I concerned that Dallas is going to run and pound the football throughout the day and beat us by running football? No, I'm not. Can they put themselves in decent situations in third down potentially? Maybe. But ultimately, to me, I'm not going to give up a short pass in an underneath run and some of those runs. I want to make them beat me over the top with bracket coverage to one dude, CGMM.

A bracket coverage to CdUM and then make them throw the ball down the field. and in that I'm probably bringing five and six-man pressures a big part of the day. But if I'm not, man, I'm not giving up the underneath stuff. Some of the easy throws, some of the boot throws, some of the easy run action throws which is dumps the guys. Like, I'm going to make sure that there is not open space between three and ten yards to throw the football in a short period of time. You don't have to work for that.

Well, there was. I don't think they did a very good job with that. There was just too many easy answers early. They probably could have put more pressure on him, but he had answers right away, throw the football. Right. I'm not Dallas did a decent job controlling the line of stream, by maintaining balance the entire day as well. And that's something that you go to the offense is, you've got to put them in a completely one-dimensional situation

in the first half this ball game when you have a chance to score on short fields over, and over and over again. Fair point. Yes. Offensively, if you take advantage of the field position and you score more and you've got a lead, then they're one-dimensional

because they're in a hole rather than, you know, your offense forced them to be one-dimensional more so than your defense did. I don't... Yeah. It's true. Because defensively didn't seem

like they were capable of forcing a team that's been one-dimensional every single week of this season because they haven't been able to run the football against anybody. And yet, the play action and boot stuff was working because Rico Dowdell was running the football well. Yeah, they stayed balanced throughout the entire game on offense. In Dallas, did they have a big chunk run at any point in this game? No. No.

we call it immediately. I don't think they had any big chunk run. I don't think they did either. Dowdell, but Dowdell was able to average over four yards to carry. Yeah. But, I mean, that's, yeah. Okay, Rico Dowdell, statistically,

9-19 carries 86 yards, 4.5 yards to carry. Yeah. This statistic could say 4.5 yards on the average, but this should be 9, 10, or 11 carries for 48 yards, because you're not allowing them these long positions and balance in your scoring. And as they get to the second half, you know what they have to do. Yeah. And the other do.

But you give up a lot of the short stuff like Cooper Rush is 75% on the day because he didn't have to make the difficult throws did Rush have. The one at the end of the first half? That was it. That was it. Right. And the one of the end of the first half, they should have been that difficult, but you get the pass interference on the play before.

which, I mean, he end up picking, but it's clear past interference. Yeah. What's his name? No, it's been a gunny. But, you know, that flag came out awfully late, but it was clearly DPI. But it's like the flag didn't come out until he picked it, which I thought was

interesting. The play at the end of the first half, and I made this point last night, if you're Benjamin St. Juice, you don't hook him and let him go with with, you know, 11 seconds left in the first half, you tackle him there. Tackle him. It doesn't matter if you get called for defensive holding there, or even really, for that matter, DPI, because then the ball's still only out at the 35-yard line or whatever.

But you hooked him and then you let him run, and that was the big, that was the only, I think it was the only big play of the day for them in terms of chunk yards. that and the touchdown pass to Schoonmaker? What was that, 25, 26 yards? Maybe. Yeah, maybe not even that. Maybe 25 yards on a ball in coverage, which does happen.

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But I didn't think, one, Daniels was inaccurate to the middle of the field earlier in the day. But I didn't think they did a good enough job almost exactly what Dallas did, attacking between the numbers towards the middle of the field, between numbers and hash. And they had throws between numbers and hashers throughout a lot of the day, but they were attacking more on the outside. They really had a emphasis on either staying away from one side in Terry McLaurin or for whatever reason the matchup with Noel Brown, and Noel Brown dropped two balls that would have been big in the game.

Both contested passes, but both third-down situations where you have to make those catches. And both of them end up hitting him in the chest. So he's dropping two balls that he could have attacked with his hands. Right. Yep. Chess catcher. I thought throughout the day, one of the things I really saw with Daniel throughout the days, yeah, there's pressure.

But he did a very poor job of stepping up in the pocket to avoid pressure. when he had, and then, granted, I understand some of those situations, you're getting interior pressure as well, but there's quite a few where there's push off the edge, but there's nothing preventing him from coming up in the pocket. Like Michael Parsons beat the left guard later in the game, somewhere like third quarter or something, and yeah, it's a great pressure, it's not good protection. But that's an interior guy that looped outside to beat the guard, and he flees right.

There's three instances in a row at the end of the first half of a two-minute drill where he flees right to the sideline and steps out of bounds right at the sideline. And those are situations. One of them I'm pretty certain there was not an answer for him. But the other two are avoid, step up tight in the pocket and have a potential to run through the middle of the field or step up tight with your eyes down to be able to deliver a ball.

and that's a young quarterback will make that mistake a lot but he's avoiding out to his right way too many times and when you get a guy that's doing that a lot you create that pressure off his backside and go you're cool you run out there and get two

we don't care I just I didn't think he did a very good job throughout the day of pocket management and then early he missed two throws before the game got weird to Earths in the middle of the field their wild overthrows.

Yeah, well, on the opening drive, their opening drive where they settled for a field goal, he went to Ertz. I want to see whether or not he had other options. And I was going to ask you if that was an overthrow or if Ertz should have kept the route going down the field towards, you know, the goal line, actually, or towards the pylon. He seemed to kind of level it off and the ball sailed over his head. Do you know the one I'm talking about? Pull it up here and watch it.

It's their first drive of the game. Yeah, as the first drive of the game, it was the third down before the field goal that they kick. Right. It's after the third and 12 speed option where you're like, how about that one? He's not hurt. Yeah, how about that play? Did he check to that?

Somebody mentioned that he checked to that. I didn't notice that if he did. But, man, that was rather special that speed. option. Third and 12, you're running speed option. Now, you're probably running third and 12 speed option because you're at their 43-yard line, and you're like, this will get six yards and we can kick a field goal, or we can have the option of going for it. But look at the throw to Ertz and tell me if that's bad throw or bad route. Curious? Well, as we get to it, which I'm getting to it, what would you assume?

You know? Like, is it Eertz? He's done this forever? I know. That's why I'm asking you. I think Olson, who was calling the game, Greg Olson, I think he made the comment that Jaden expected Ertz to run the route, you know, to not sort of level it off there.

Do you have the play yet or not? Oh, no, it's a good throw. Sorry, I'll get back to my thought, but Ertz is running a corner route. Yeah. So football is super complicated, right? You're going to run to the front pylon. They actually should be called the front pylon route. You run those corners like at the corner of the end zone,

but you almost always establish an angle coming out of your break at the pylon, which is a high angle. Then the quarterback can throw you down. You can bring your angle down. You can adjust downward in a bend downward, the ball in the air. It's impossible for it's nearly impossible as a route runner to adjust back up

field towards the pylon once you flatten that route out. Yeah, Earth is, and they're running this at like a level, he's got an underneath route. He's only five yards separation from the underneath out. It could have stayed high. The other thing with that ball is that ball has got to have a little more air on it. True. Agreed. Yeah. But we wouldn't know the difference because it's so hard to decide exactly where it is going and what it is in the air once it's in the air.

But I think that ball's got to have a little more air on. I totally agree with you, by the way, on the two-minute drive at the end of the half. First of all, real quickly on that drive. So they were clearly struggling at the line of scrimmage, especially the interior. It looked like Parsons was lined up more inside yesterday. and maybe he typically does. And I don't know if that caught him off guard, but the two guards, Cosmy and Allegretti,

they were struggling. Dallas was living in the backfield too much. And I thought that the Zone Reed stuff was really their best way to handle the running game and that they needed to go to more quick game. And so at the end of the first half, that drive before the three plays that you just referred to, because I want to get to those plays, because I think I want to hear,

what you said in more detail. But they came out and it was bubble to Noah Brown, quick hitch to Terry, quick, you know, out to Zekees. And they're moving the ball down the field. I understand it's two minutes. But then they drop them back. And that first drop back to your point, the one thing that I said last night is this is the one more than any, the first in 10, where he bails right and gets flushed right. I got to think before he decides to run out of bounds, there's an opportunity to stay behind the line of scrimmage, extend,

and throw the ball down the field to somebody. And so I didn't like that one. And then the plays you're talking about at the end of the half, right? Yeah, I'm going to get to him. I just got off the earth's play. But I mean, as I get to them, the other thing with this earth's throw, going obviously circling full circle back

is that he rushes a throw. When you pull it up again and take a look at it, he's at the top of his drop and there's really no need to let go of that ball right that second. He gets real happy with his feet kind of stutter, stutter, and just let it rip. So he's at that point letting it go that early left to only what the assumption of what Erds will do is.

Right. And yes, Erds could have definitely kept the route higher on the corner route. Depends on how they're coaching. And I mean, there's the times that we call it a crash corner, not a high corner, and you flattened it hard. You rolled the corner. You rolled it to flat, like it almost a deep out route. So, but where he throws the ball, you assume that's not the case.

That said, all he's got to do is set heavy on his back foot and see where Earth's is coming out of the break. I mean, if he sets for not even a half of them, these are quick millisecond deals, just settle down back there, big guy, like, we got you here, you're blocked up all right. So when you look at it again, you're blocked up okay in that situation. Settle back.

You don't have to be all happy with your feet and go, I got to get rid of it right to second. And there's a chance then that he sees, One more step of Earths. If he sees Earths take one more step, his subconscious and his mind can understand the angle he's coming out of. One more step from Earth. Yeah. I mean.

So moving forward, this flush right on the first down. Yeah. Minute 13 left. You know, they're in the... It's almost like he's, it's treating it like sprint out. Yeah, this one... So he takes the ball, takes a two-step drop before he even sets his back foot on the drop, is running right.

Yes. He has no pressure at this point. None. Zero. There is no pressure. You could draw a definitive line on the line of scrimmage, and it's blocked up. And it's weird because on the other side, he's got an out-up that he could look at. Right.

Also, it's a horseshit reaction by the two receivers to his right. outside the numbers, trying to find space to get open. Who's that? 14. Bro, if you're short, you've got to turn it up and go deep. Yeah. On a scramble situation. 14 is a checkout, and he just turns and starts blocking.

Also, fun game here, Kev. You pause this as he gets just outside the 40 on the numbers. I'm looking at it right now. What happens if he cuts that inside 14 block? it goes vertical up the field. Like what happens now? Honestly, it might be six.

Yeah, I don't know. That's a tough. I mean, there are two defenders out there, but I'm looking at what you were just talking about. Like, there isn't anybody open, but if he extends longer because he's not being pressured, what was

interesting about the pass rush coolies, it's all tilted to the right side, which is why he comes out right quickly. And there's actually no pocket because they go to block everybody that's rushing to the right. But if he stays behind the line of scrimmage, is there going to be an opportunity? It doesn't look like the receivers are nobody's open. And they turn and they start blocking once they start to see him run and it's a two-yard game. He's outside the hash before anyone's finished a route.

I know, and nobody's open. There's not even a reaction time for the receivers to get open at that point. They're pretty, yeah. So then the next play, let's look at the next play. So the next play, look at the next play. Okay, go to the next play.

He hits the top of his drop on the next play. There's pressure. Right? Dallas brings, it's really a four-man pressure with 13 spying him. Yep. is really all it is? Actually, that's...

Okay, let's go. That's the first down is a four-man pressure. It's four-man pressure. This is second down. Now, it's not 13 who's spying him. There's no spy. Somebody's got Echler. But he gets... I guess... Now we're in this.

Yeah, this one, he's got a chance maybe to throw the football. I wanted to see this one on the All-22. Now, on the second down, he hits the back of his drop at the 38-yard line. There's an absolute pocket. If he avoids this pocket,

and he immediately starts to roll right. There's not necessarily anyone open as he hits the top of his drop, but he starts to roll right. If he were to just avoid this through the B-gap on his left side, there's an unbelievable amount of space for him to navigate the middle of the field.

But instead, he's got to bubble himself backwards to get around his right tackle and lose another three yards to get back to the 35. yard line, and then oddly enough, we get receivers blocking again as he gets outside. We get Ertz turning to block, and maybe that's a coaching point.

I don't know, but Ertz at that point you would think would continue to move downfield. By the way, when your quarterback is scrambling, running, if you're the shorter guy, turning and running downfield, is essentially the same as a block,

because they have no choice but to run with you. He gets out of the pocket He has nobody who throws you But the second down play 100% No need to bubble right and roll right Could have stepped up in the B gap on his left hand side And scrambled from there

Or it stepped up and looked to become available again Yeah I want to just Before we get to the third down play What we're looking at here Is to me three plays that were interesting And Chris had mentioned them earlier It's at the end of the first half

They go quick, quick, quick, and they're out to the 40-something yard line with still over a minute to go. They're up 3-0 in the game at that point, and you've got them into a rhythm a little bit there with three consecutive completions. On 1st and 10, he flushes too quickly, doesn't give anybody a chance, but nobody's open and he runs out of bounds for a 2-yard game.

Second down, Cooley's saying there is a pocket. he could have stepped up into the pocket. And there's also out to the left an opportunity for maybe a bigger run, but instead he runs essentially back to the line of scrimmage. Now we're on third down, and Dallas is coming after him with blitz pressure, and this is legitimate pressure. You would agree with this, right? Immediate.

I think it's pretty immediate pressure. He's got, the thing is, though, is he's got three receivers out to his left. and both of them are, both the in-break receivers are looking hot. They see blitz. And if he throws the outside receiver before he starts to run on the numbers, he's wide open. There's no one within eight yards of him. Are you talking about the tight, are you talking about it? Are you talking about it looks like Diami Brown coming from? Diami Brown. Yeah.

Erts is looking. Ert sees that he's hot. Yeah. Oertz is saying red seven, far out. Right. Right. You can see him off the ball. Yes. But he looks directly at Diami Brown as he starts his drop. Please, for the love of God, tell me who's covering Diami Brown. Nobody. Because they're in a four-deep coverage, one underneath.

Yeah. And 50 is coming from the opposite ash at the exact time you freeze it with Diamie Brown just to the numbers. He's open. And honestly, it's probably a first down. Yeah. It's most likely a first down. he could let that ball, instead of driving that slant route into the middle of the field,

he could drive that ball upfield and let that ball carry him upfield instead of getting in the middle of the field. It's not probably a first down. It's the first down. I think this is really important what we're getting here because I think one of the issues that I had yesterday is that when he was blitzed, it didn't seem like there were options. options. But here there's an option. Now, not, you know, and for whatever reason, whether he's not recognizing it pre-snap and understanding he's going to have to throw hot, to your point, the receivers clearly recognize that there's a hot route situation. And he looks at Diami, but doesn't

throw it and then tries to scramble and gets nothing and they end up punting. And by the way, that turned into the big play that Dallas had to get the field goal before the end of the half. Now, the other thing with this third downplay, by the way, we're doing this more because all 22 came out as we were doing the podcast, so we can do this. I would have done this for you earlier today. But I'm looking at it for the first time, too. By the way, on the third down play, they should be picked up. The new right tackle just passes off an inside stunt to go out to Parsons.

The thing is, though, he's got pressure off his left side, and he is rolling right before he sees that his right tackle hasn't really adjusted and passed this block off. He doesn't know he's going to have that inside pressure to his right. The normal response probably would have been step up a little bit, and he still could have been through that backside B-Gap, which is really the C-Gap, because B-GAP is staying in perspective. The normal probably a better response would have been to step up in the B-gap again. after he

option A which you should have done was throwed Diami Brown on flat so essentially Kevin it goes back

to how I feel and now I feel even with a few of these you feel a little bit different my thought process was that they had a lot open opportunities between the hash and numbers

between the numbers towards the middle of the field it doesn't have to be between the hashes but between the numbers which you consider the middle of the field he's not hitting those throws you've got to be able to make those throws

you've got to be able to see and have to be able to see have time to develop those throws. Also, when you talk about some of these route combinations on a couple of these, they're high-low-concept combination. And so if he doesn't set, Dallas is not, they don't establish if they're taking the high route, the deeper route, or if they're going to come up and close on the low route. They're reacting to movement.

They're acting the quarterback movement at that point. So it's impossible to really sit there and say, nobody's open. The route combination hasn't finished. Right. And so the defense hasn't had to dictate what they're going to. their choices of what they want to do. Let me just throw this into the mix. There wasn't anybody open in his last game against Philadelphia, and I don't know if he was expecting the same. And Dallas Blitzed him, I don't know what the percentage was, but man, it seemed like they came after

and with a fifth pass rusher a lot in this game. When they didn't, and you pointed out, you know, one of the plays, I forget which one it was. They did an okay job protecting. But they were definitely on the other side of the line of scrimmage, Dallas, was especially in the interior for a lot of the game, especially in the run game, which is why I think they were able to get outside with some of the read option stuff. But, yeah.

Yeah, they got some, some, they did a very good job controlling from the line of scrimmage in the run game, but now as you really go back and watch this past game, is there really pressure? And this is, what, eight years ago that I made everyone, or 12 years ago that I made everybody so mad

and talked about Robert Griffin, who got stacked more times than anybody in the history of the league, it being his fault. It's not that it was his fault necessarily always because anything other than he's a young quarterback, doing young quarterback things, But he was. And it went back to that conversation

that the right tackle at the time. Tyler Columbus is doing a terrible job. He always has to run around the outside. He's like, no. Blocking guys at nine yards deep. There's a pocket. That's what a pocket is. And so in this, I'm really seeing,

and I felt it as I watched the TV copy based on throws he's not making. And also, it's condensed copy. You're not seeing a lot of the replays. But it's a young quarterback. He's playing like a young quarterback right here. I mean, there are some throws that he makes between the numbers. I mean, in the first drive of the second half, he hits Noah Brown.

He had Noah Brown in that slant, you know, when he dropped it in the first half on a third down. But he hits Noah Brown on one on that first drive of the second half, which is a really good throw. Yeah, a slant's bordering on the inside. Yeah, understood. But the one in the second half, And then obviously several of them on that final, on that final long drive. So let's just make it really easy. I'll just play defensive coordinator next week.

Dude doesn't want to throw the ball in the middle of the field and also won't stand in pocket long enough to deliver a throw in the middle of the field unless we give them something wide open. So we'll heavy dictate that we force routes back to the outside, keep routes on the outside of the field and pressure them and try to run to his right and adjust from there. That's what I'll do. You're not going to attack the middle of the field? cool, we'll go ahead and we'll go ahead and understand and play defense accordingly. Yeah. You know? Yeah, I mean, they've not attacked the middle of the field as much in the last three games as they were doing during the other portion of the season.

There's plenty of tape with them attacking the middle of the field this year. But yesterday... Yeah, no, I understand. I understand. Greg Olson also had a really good comment in the game that I wrote down. It's hard to play NFL football in five-yard chunks. and that's another thing I thought Washington was doing throughout the big part of the they didn't have very many chunk plays or movement plays. Yeah, I mean, for both teams, it's really, especially with a young quarterback,

it's really hard to play football in five-year junk. Yep. It should have been a game, it should have been 17 to 3, 17 to 0 at the end of the first half this game. And it's a dynamic difference in how the ballgame plays out. Dallas becomes incredibly one-dimensional. it should have been 10 or 13 to 0 at the end of the first half, 10 or 13. And one of those possessions, they should have went down and scored. Worst case scenario, 9 to 0.

Remember, they missed. They missed the field goal. They missed two fields. I don't know. They missed the field goal. I understand that's part of it, but they were gifted field position. Yeah, they had great field position. It heard you that Robinson's heard. It heard some of the things.

You made some mistakes. They had some penalties. It looks like early they had some operational penalties. You know, they have Ball Star, they have an early snap. They have some stuff going on. Not that Dallas didn't, but that's a bad team. Right. Yeah, they gave up four first downs on penalties.

But to suggest that Dallas, it should have been 17-0. Dallas had a field goal blocked and another chip shot missed. That's actually really true. That's a good point. And they had a snap that went over when they were moving. They had a snap that went over his head. Russia said. That cost them a drive.

They self-em, you know, imploded as well. Right. But that's what bad teams do. That's true. Good team. What how? 7 and 2 are good teams because they're not imploding. So your assumption when you play a bad team is, if you're just watching it,

like you don't ever assume it as a coach or got a team, but you're watching a game or betting on a game. We're like, bad teams implode. Yeah. Tell me about the real quickly, and then unless you've got other stuff, I won't keep you any longer. This has been great. But the interception on the screen to Brian Robinson, Jr. It's a well-covered screen pass that he throws a decent ball into it.

It's not a ball. You feel it. A lot of times if they're completely covered like that, you can throw a bounce pass at them, just to survive a play. He's just dirted. He's not make a bad play worse. Yeah. Yeah, he's really well covered.

The interception is Brian Robinson's fault. Ball hits in the hands. He bibles it up. Right. And then it's like, ooh, look what I found. That's all those lucky picks for a defensive guy, but even at that, what's at a zero-yard gain, one-yard loss. Yeah, he's dirted a bunch of those this year

and just lived to play another down. Right. It's hard. It's hard to be a good screen team underneath. And again, I get, I haven't watched all of it. But over the last three weeks, I know that they haven't had great success on offense. It's hard when you don't scare teams really run a ball or throw on the ball some more down the field to really be a great screen team like that. Right. Somehow Kansas City does it. They never get the ball down the field. Everyone plays them in the softest two of all time.

and Andy Reid's the best screen guy I've ever seen. What else? It's an unbelievable football game, if you want to put it that way, if you're just watching it. Well, it was a terrible football game until the crazy final five minutes. It's a phenomenal football game. It's a terrific football game. These are great.

What things like this happen is, it's unbelievable cool to be watching a game that you're not invested in when this shit happens. Yeah, got it. Right. Yeah, I just, I don't remember a football game with this team, maybe any team, where there were more impactful special teams plays.

Special teams gaffs or great special teams plays are always impactful. I just don't remember the volume in one game that we had in this one. It was crazy. Two Miss PATs? Two Miss PATs? Two Miss PATs, a miss field goal. A block field goal, a block kickoff return for a touchdown. By the way, which we haven't mentioned, which is incredible.

And also stupid sometimes on Dallas's part. An on-side kick return for a touchdown. Yeah. He should have gone down, obviously. And then they missed, you know, and then they had a field goal blocked and a field goal missed. It's just crazy. We've got to spend a little time this week on special teams. No one wants to, but we got to get out there.

We've got to spend a little bit more time on special teams. That's what would have been happening in Ashburn. Can you imagine the coaches meeting? It's like, gosh, all right, maybe we need an extra special teams, period. And then other coaches in, they're like, just get the kicker to make the kicks. We're fine. You know, why can't he make it? You know, they got close on another.

They closed my mind. They got close on another punt or two also. And they had, the block punt was bad luck in that usually when you get a blocked punt, the ball stays behind the line of scrimmage. This was a 23-yard net punt. You know, if he had shanked the punt 23 yards, it would have been, it would have essentially been the same thing, but we wouldn't have, you know, talked about it being blocked. They didn't get the benefit that you usually get from a blocked punt, which is sometimes a score or, like, outrageous, position. Yeah, it was lucky, but it happened.

That was so lucky. Yeah. Oh, here's the last thing. This was the last thing that I didn't get to, I think, that I wrote out. You have to create for 17. There needs to be something big on your offensive coordinator's board that says, I must create for Terry McClain. What would you create?

He had six catches. He had six catches for 102 yards. Take out the last. I know. It's five catches for 105 or whatever, so basically it was four for 19. No, sorry, he had five catch. He had six targets. Yeah. It's just hard for me when I know who my best guy is to go, he had six targets.

So what would you do to get him more targets? I don't know what they, again, my apologies that I've not invested in what they're doing offensively what Kingsbury's doing. But find ways to move them around. Find ways to get the ball in his hands early. But just the thought of a guy like Terry McCorran, being somebody that's going to beat you throughout a game, much like C.D. Lam is for Dallas.

It creates openings for other guys. It makes it easy for other guys. They have to get him more touches. Yeah. They have to get more. There has to be more attempts. There should never be a game that I look at a scorebook. that doesn't say Teramacoran 10 targets or more. Right.

You know what play? No, I say that. I say that with watching about 11 plays at this point in a day on an all-22. And this, not because of me, but this gets brought up to Kingsbury, and he's like, yeah, no, we're working on that. Like, I could probably go through this film and go, there should have been 13 targets to Terry McCorn. some of it's hard to see on TV.

I really don't know the answer, but that said, then I'm shaking my quarterback with a fucking facelast, like, you see 17? You see him? Come here, come here, Terry. I put his face mask with one hand. Next to the quarterback's face mask with the other hand,

I'm holding him together. I'm like, you two need to get your shit together on the same page here. See him? Look at him. Hey, turn around, Terry. See that 17 on the back of his jersey? Look at that now. By the way, we got another special teams period later today.

You know what you two are going to do at special teams period? You're going to go to throw the ball to each other. You know what play I'm looking at right now? Remember when they were backed up near their own end zone and Jaden got pressured on that third down and he pushed the pass to Echler? Yeah. There's a lot of room for Echler had he caught that. I mean

Echler, if he catches that, it's going to be a first down, for sure. And then there's just, you know, there's, there's, it's 10, 15 yards. Yeah, easy. Um, here's one last question for you, not knowing enough.

Boy, they really can't. That was going wrong with me guy sent it. Like, is he not better than Bates? Um, it's a good question. I, He had a phenomenal block on the touchdown. He did.

It's a K.O. Block. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. What's going on with the Senate? Is he not good enough? No, I mean, you would think, given that they don't really have, other than Terry, a true kind of, you know, yards after catch guy, that Senate would be getting more snaps.

He's in the game. I'm looking at his snap count yesterday. Hold on. Played on 30% of the snaps. Bates played on 41% of the snaps, and Ertz played on 76%. They actually came out at the beginning of the second half. I forgot to mention this. I don't know if you noticed it. But they just went heavy personnel.

They're like, we got to run the football here. This team has been horrible stopping the run, and they go heavy personnel. And they did, you know, and he hit the one big ball over the middle of the Noah Brown, but a lot of zone read on that drive, and they went down and had their one real touchdown drive of the game. Did they play soft? I need to go back and look at this. Did they play soft on the drive down 20 to 9?

I don't know. I'll have to look at it, too. Ben Sinit on the year. Three receptions. Yep. Yes, sir. Come on. Sinit?

Mm-hmm. It's got to get his stuff together. It's got to get his stuff together. for sure. Something's going on with that. I don't like it. Yeah, I'm looking at this final drive a little bit. They're not playing super soft at all.

I feel like one thing with Daniels is that he is a gamer. Put him in a situation where he's got to make plays and he's pretty capable of making plays. By the way, nothing I've seen from this game about the quarterback is telling me that this isn't the dude. Yeah. Just tell me he's a young quarterback. I'm

Uber impressed with him He's had an unbelievable year And all I've heard from people around That organization is how great he is In terms of leadership And work ethic and everything Like I think all the intangible is there Who have you heard that?

Who have you heard that from? Young quarter of people You even told me about this I don't know what you don't call me other than for when you need something That's not true you haven't been around. Or when you...

That is true. Or when I hear something about you. Or you hear something about me. We won't do that one. All right. You can hear anything bad about me. Don't clip hanging at that. There's nothing that you.

Here's the thing. The reason we don't talk about that much other than that is how often do you actually hear something about me? Not never. I'm a boring ass dad with two kids. I will tell you one thing, though. won another basketball game. I'm still undefeated as a coach in youth sports in Park County, Wyoming here

over the last three years. They can't beat me here. They can't. I am unbelievable. Is this your daughter's team? Is this Sloan's team? Yeah, my daughter's team. My son, there's not as many youth sports for real youth.

Right. Or for five, six, seven-year-olds. It starts to pick up about second grade. But he'll start playing basketball next year, but she's excited about. Good. And he'll play actually machine pitch baseball next year, I think. Well, machine pitch is better than kid pitch. All right.

Great job. Thanks for doing this. I'm glad. Aren't you glad you watched the game? I mean, you had fun doing it. I love football. This excites me. All right.

Well, they play Tennessee on Sunday, and they have to win. lost three games in a row. They're seven and five. And now... Is it a code red game? You know what? Somebody called in today and said, this feels like a code red game. It does feel a little bit like a code red game.

In Tennessee, beat Houston yesterday. Yeah, Houston missed a fail goal at the last second. Houston had a commander's moment. Yeah. It's really interesting how many missed field goals there have been over the last month of the season when it was a year that started with basically this is the year of the long field goal. We've had so many long field goals, but we've had a lot of missed field goals recently.

But Tennessee's good. They're hitting their driver well. But now they're not working on that pitching a wedge game. That nine iron game. You got to get back to the range of that. Short game's important. You got your wedge game's important. Get Austin cyber working on that.

You know, three foot putt counts the same. Three foot putt count the same. as a smoke drive. Maybe Quinn... Maybe Quinn should have asked Cyber. You're going to hit the driver? Are you going to walk out there with the three wood? Because if you're going to hit the three wood, I'm going for two.

I need you confident. The driver, bro. Hey, hit the driver. He sprayed it. He actually hooked it. All right. Shit, way to lose the football game. Bummer.

I felt bad. I was pissed. All right. I'll talk to you later. Thanks for doing this. See you. Cooley, everybody. Done for the day back tomorrow with Tommy.