The Kevin Sheehan Show - Cooley: Trade Collins

Episode Date: October 21, 2020

Cooley & Kevin today with Cooley's "Film Breakdown" of the defense against the Giants. During the grading of Landon Collins, Kevin asked Cooley if the team should consider trading Collins before the deadline. Cooley said yes and projected what they could get for him. The guys also talked about new Washington Team President Jason Wright telling WJLA-Channel 7 that there likely won't be a new team name next year. Also the latest on the Cowboys problems and thoughts on why the Dolphins are turning to Tua now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheehan Show. Here's Kevin. It's a Cooley, Kevin. Wednesday, Cooley's going to have his defensive film breakdown. Thanks for all the feedback on the offensive film breakdown.

I think a lot of people really enjoyed the way you broke down the two-point conversion play Cooley yesterday. And a lot of people disagree with us on Kyle Allen being able to outrun Gibral Peppers to the end zone. It just isn't a side. I don't know that we've spent this much time on a play in a long time, but the decision about the play, the play itself has gotten a lot of run this week. Let me put it to you this way. I would much rather have him try to outrun Joe Peppers to the end zone than I would throw away a ball on a two-point conversion in which you're going to lose the game. I think that's a fair point. We'll get to the defensive film breakdown. There are three quick football-related subjects that I want to quickly address to start the podcast. I'm going to start

with this one, because this was a report from WJLA, Channel 7. Scott Abraham is the anchor, and there's a story, and it was headline on ESPN.com, first thing this morning when I woke up early to do the radio show. And it was that Jason Wright, the team president of the Washington football team, told Scott Abraham from Channel 7 that the team name currently, the Washington football team, will likely be the team name next year. He said, next year is fast, essentially saying it's fast because of how the brand has to come together, you know, through uniforms, through the approval process, through the league, all of that. And they aren't rushing into this thing, but this is the first indication that they're not going to have a team name next year. Now, I'll let you respond to it in a moment. There are two things. Number one, the people that responded foolishly, oh, what dopes.

They can't get anything right. They couldn't even come up with a new name before the season started. Well, that's ignorance. Okay. The average length of time to change a sports team's name and corresponding brand is a, 18 to 24 months. And the reason for that is there's a lot of legal stuff that has to happen. A lot of trademarking stuff, a lot of domain name issue stuff, a lot of stuff. Not to mention, they have to do cost analysis. They have to do a lot of research into this stuff. So I don't have

a problem and didn't have a problem with them not having a team name for this season. My preference, by the way, would just be to go FC Washington or Washington FC. But that aside, what did didn't come out of this is something that I believe almost should be true at this point. And that is we are now essentially three months beyond, right? About three months, maybe a little bit longer, beyond the decision to shelve Redskins and move on. I would think if they are in the process of starting to, you know, change the brand, change the logo, change everything legally and otherwise, that they are down to one, two, or three names as a possibility. Now, that question was not asked, or maybe it was, and I just haven't read the answer.

I mean, I'd like to know if they have the name. If personally they have at least narrowed it down to one, two, or three. Now, they're trying to play this game of inclusion in the fans and the community, and we're welcoming in all of these suggestions and as a form of, as a form of, as a form of, Former player, Cooley, have you been contacted about the name? I've been, yeah, of course I have. Oh, you have? They've asked what your preference was. Oh, no, no, no, no, sorry.

No, no one's asked me. No one's talked to me about anything. So I think that that is basically a ruse. I mean, I don't think they're really counting on the community to pick the name. This isn't going to be a vote, just like it really wasn't a vote when a Poland tried to make it out to be. It's nice to try to make it out to be, hey, all of our fans are contributing. but they can doctor up. There's no auditing of the polling.

There's no auditing of the response. They can say, ah, you guys, look what you came up with. This was the name you picked, whatever it is, Warriors. God, I hope it's not Red Wolves, but that's a separate subject we've already addressed in the past. I would think that they have either have the name at this point or they're down to like two or three that they're pursuing and seeing which ones are more violent. I don't think it's still open now as to, hey, let's keep taking suggestions. There may be a name that we haven't heard of that we might go with. I don't think so either.

I was told by a couple people that the name was picked before the season. Warriors is what I had heard. So the one person that I truly trust on this who doesn't work in the building said, I'm just not going to tell you the name. But they have a name. He wouldn't tell me the name. Well, I was told that the owner from day one, whenever this was suggested that if this were to ever happen, that that's what he wanted was Warriors. And that the team was basically set up, except somehow the trademark thing got lost in the shuffle on Warriors, that that's what they wanted to move forward with.

But the point is, is that I bet you that they have a pretty good. good idea of what the name is going to be, or at least they're down to two names, and they're just seeing which one is viable legally and otherwise to move forward with. Anyway, next year, it could be football team again. I mean, I actually wonder whether or not that is a turnoff to potential young free agent players. The franchise alone turns people off. anyway. This is not a destination for really good players anymore. Hell, I forget if I brought this up with you or with someone else. Trevor Lawrence still technically has a year left. So does Justin Fields. Like if they wanted to and they were going to get picked by Washington, they could just say, they could

pull an Eli Manning. They could pull a John Elway if they don't want to play for Washington. We're in that category now of franchises that a potential draft. player or free agents do not want to come to. And I would add to that, that without a name and something to sort of attach to, that might be a deterrent as well. No. I disagree with that. You disagree with which part of that?

The fact that no name would be a deterrent. Okay. Someone wanted to play for the football team. I don't think that anyone truly cares about the name of a football team. Look at the nature. The NFL. But they don't have a name. is my point. It's not that they don't like the name. They don't have any. I think the lack of a name or

the name of a team does not deter someone from playing for a certain thing. I don't think Redskins deterred people from coming and playing here. And the fact of the matter is, there may have been a deterrent for some players to potentially not want to come here because they weren't. It wasn't a win destination. But the biggest deterrent, I think, over the past 10 years to big name players coming here was that they weren't going to pay them. Yeah, with Bruce, right. Bruce was not going to pay an exponential amount or overpay for any players. Like Vinny and Dan did for the first 10 years.

And like Dan did for Landon Collins. Right. You know, I think you just, I think you had a different opinion on Redskins previously. I know we've had this conversation before, and if I'm misstating this, that's fine. But I think you and I did have the conversation that there was probably, probably at least one, if not more than one example, of potentially a free agent or even a prospective draft choice that said to, you know, Bruce or someone else, I don't want to play for your team because of the team's name. I can find that out. Remember Sam Bradford had a problem with it?

And there was a chance at one point that they could have been in the running for Sam Bradford. That was a long time ago, wasn't it? Yeah, that was a long time ago. But, you know, I mean, it's not like, you know. I'm not going to suggest that there wasn't a couple players. I would say the percentage was less than 10. Oh, I agree with that. I would say the percentage is less than 20 in general for people that,

for free agents that didn't want to come here because of any reason other than money. Right. Let's go play for money. And they bounce around so much now. the NFL. 30% turnover every year on every roster. Right. So you know

my conspiracy theory on this. What? This keep the name as football team for a while. Is that if Dan were forced to sell the team or made a decision

to sell the team, which by the way, it can't be very much fun being him right now. No. I mean, talk about the absolute worst. And although there are billions of dollars in TV revenues that go to every team and there's tons of money, there's also a ton of expenses for teams. And this is a big time expense. Changing the name is a big expense. It's not easy to change your name and all your stuff and all your messaging and all your logos and all. It's a big time expense. I can't even start to tell you what it is. I just know it's a shitload. Oh, it's in the, it's it's, I can tell you

because I was told this. It's in the millions, if not tens of millions of millions of, of dollars to totally overhaul a sports team's name and associated brand, logoing, the whole thing. So you're right about that. I know where you're going with this. I'm really upset with myself that I didn't recall this conversation that you had with me recently because I think it's really smart. So continue.

You think they're holding on to change, that they're not changing the name because. Because if you were to sell it to Fred Smith of FedEx, who was a co-owner at some time, and everyone says Fred doesn't want it. Yeah, I guess you're right, he still is. Or you were to sell it to Jeff Bezos or to anybody. There's a certain cachet to being able to name your own team that you buy. Yeah. And I'm sure that Dan N understands the marketing aspect of, look, if I were going to sell it in two years, it's probably worth a half a billion dollars for somebody to name their team that has the money.

Now, the owners, Jeff Bezos could buy every team in the NFL right now. And the owners can dictate the sale of a lot of these teams and what goes into all of it. But, you know, ultimately right now, I think Washington's worth is still right at that $4 billion mark. But let's just say you could get $4.5 just because Jeff Bezos could name his team. did you just throw that number out of the air that being able to name the team and brand the team yourself is worth a half a billion dollars for an NFL team? I have no idea. I have no idea. I don't know what it is.

It's a caveat to buying a team. I mean, seriously, think about it. If you were not a fan of any particular team or the team that you were buying and there was this idea that I can name this team, whatever I want to name this team. that's really cool a hundred I think that's a hundred percent spot on I don't know if it's the reason

but it makes sense it could be the reason there's another part of that right it's it's not just that you get the chance to name the team and create whatever you want to create around it it's that currently the team doesn't have a name after

80 some years and if they went ahead and named the team, let's just say the Red Wolves, and then he sold the team, you're stuck with the Red Wolves with one year of Red Wolves. It's one thing to acquire a team with 80 years of the same name. But if Snyder is thinking about selling the team or he's worried about losing the team, one or the other, then having a team that you can sell, where it's, essentially the new owner is not inheriting anything other than an NFL franchise in a very desirable market, and he gets to do everything else.

Name it, brand it, logo it, the whole thing. I think it's more attractive. Definitely. There's no question. Yeah. That's interesting. I don't know if that's true. I know you don't know if that's actually the case.

This is my own personal conspiracy theory, but in thinking about it, shoot, if I had the money to buy a team and to buy this team, and they renamed it Red Wolves right now, I'm sitting here thinking, and by the way, as I'm thinking here, if there is somebody out there that thinks they could buy it, and this is a possibility,

they actually know they're fairly close to getting it. If there's any possibility, there's been a conversation or there's an idea that they could have it. And they went ahead and just said, yeah, Red Wolves, I would be pissed. Well, and you know, because then I'm like, What happens? You buy the team three years from now and you go, we don't like Red Wolves. Nobody does. Now we have to change that.

Well, you already pointed out too, and you're 100% right. Beyond that, it's that, well, why if I think there's a chance I will sell the team or lose the team, why should I absorb the cost of millions of dollars to change the brand? Let that be a cost that the new owner absorbs. That's another huge part of it. Yeah. So if I can, like it's going to cost me tens of millions of dollars, or let's just call it, let's say it's going to cost me $30 million. $30 million to change the name of the team. But in turn, I could get X amount of dollars more. I mean, it's a net profit. Yeah. All of those things are very interesting. I think that theory is not, is not crazy. I have felt intuitively for a while while none of the stuff in the post, and none of those stories in the post on their own are enough to get him to be ousted by the commissioner or by the other 31 owners. I have felt for a while now that it just can't be fun owning this team.

And maybe the Beth Wilkinson investigation will produce something further that could oust him. By the way, and we've talked about this before, and then a caller on the radio show reminded me of this. You know, this whole idea of tanking for Trevor or finishing the top five and having a chance at Justin Fields or Trey Lance or the next quarterback. You know what we're not considering? We're not considering this Beth Wilkinson investigation and what it produces, because it could produce something that costs Washington their first round pick in 2021. It is absolutely in play that they could be fined, that they could lose draft choices. So keep that in mind, Washington football fans, that that Beth Wilkinson investigation, which I love whenever we would talk about it, especially when the season started, stop, we got a season now.

All of this stuff is so important. All of this stuff could result in a lot of things, including maybe the ouster of the owner. but it could at the very least, I would bet you any amount of money that it doesn't produce any less than a significant fine. I bet you that's what it does end up producing. And in saying that, you know, the thing that's, the thing that I think is tough is if you were to, if you were to take away a draft pick, especially a first-round draft pick, you're talking about hurting X amount of coaches that have never been here,

of players that had nothing to do with this, X amount of people in the building that just want to do their jobs. You're hurting people's livelihoods by doing that. They're not going to worry about that. They're going to worry about sending a message to an owner they dislike and they don't even want to own the team anymore. If you want to send a message, for a culture that is unacceptable. They're not going to worry about Ron Rivera and Jack Del Rio and Kyle Allen. I know we're not going to worry about it. But my suggestion is, God, that's just not fair to to give those guys that kind of consequence. Okay.

Well, I mean, deflategate didn't involve misogyny. It did involve the toxic culture and an abusive culture towards employees, specifically female employees. And they lost picks and got fined big money. I'm just saying it's not out of... Right. I understand. I'm not disagreeing that it could get done. I just dislike it.

Yeah. I just like finding the people that are involved in it. almost like half the time with some of the personal foul hits. I don't like the actual penalty. Not Apple. Apple's apple. Right. Yeah.

I'm just, you know, it just, I was reminded of it this morning. We, it's one of those things. Keep in the back of your mind as you're thinking, let's tank for Trevor. Who knows? Who knows where that first round pick might be after this Beth Wilkinson investigation? All right. Two other things I wanted to get to before we start your defensive film breakdown. I think that the benching of Ryan Fitzpatrick and Miami making the decision to go to Tuatunga Viloa after the bye week is a very interesting decision.

First of all, the context for this, Miami's won their last two games outscoring their opponents, 47 to 17, the 49ers and the Jets. Jets are terrible, we understand that. They throttled the 49ers last week in Santa Clara, 43 to 17 or whatever it was. So actually, whatever score discrepancy, it's 67 to 17. 67 to 17, no, 77 to 17 because it was 24-0, my fault. In the last two weeks. Ryan Fitzpatrick is number seven in the NFL and QBR. So they are a game out in the AFC East.

The dolphins are in the best position they've been in several years to compete for a postseason birth. When I saw this news yesterday, I was very surprised. Now, you know, Mike Jones was on with me this morning and he goes, look, everybody knows what Ryan Fitzpatrick is. Like, he will eventually be, you know, will make a tragic mistake and they'll lose a game. And that's what Fitzpatrick has been, right? He's been a guy that keeps both teams in the game at the same time. But the reason Miami's three and three and competitive is Fitzpatrick is having a pretty good season. You know, the games they lost, they were in. They were in the opener against the Patriots. legitimate shot against Buffalo late, and they were only down by two points in the fourth quarter to Seattle.

So they've been very competitive. I know that their wins are against Jacksonville, the Jets, and the Niners in Garoppolo's first game back, and he was terrible. I understand that. But anyway. Yeah, but against the Niners defense, that's right. Patrick went 22 at 28 for 350 yards and three touchdowns. It wasn't like they had three defensive plays that resulted in all the big points. Fitzpatrick was electric in the game. Here was what I thought of.

What I thought of was Brian Flores, Chris Greer, that organization, there have been two instances of teams that have either contemplated and made or contemplated and decided not to make significant quarterback changes in the midst of a competitive season going with a much younger, unproven player that I can remember in the last eight years. In 2012, Alex Smith did get hurt. Kaepernick came in, but Alex Smith was ready to play, and Jim Harbaugh said, no, we're sticking with Kaepernick. Alex didn't do enough to lose the job at all, but he had this sense that Kaepernick was going to provide the difference between a team that was going to be a playoff team versus a team that could make a run in the postseason. And he was right.

And Kaepernick was phenomenal in that 2012 playoff game against Green Bay. and in the championship game against Atlanta. But the big whiff is Andy Reid in 2017. Same quarterback, Alex Smith, okay? Same quarterback. Alex Smith starts the year. Patrick Mahomes, they've traded up to select in the first round, and he's sitting there.

And they know what they have in Mahomes. They know. They know that this guy is a talent, and they have high expectations of what Mahomes is going to be. But Alex Smith starts that year, 5-0. Game managing quarterback, weapons, Kareem Hunt, Travis Kelsey, Tyree Kill, the whole thing. Every time Alex Smith has succeeded, he's had really good weapons around him or been on a team with a superb defense. And so they start off 5-0 and then they got in that stretch coolly, remember, in 2017, where they couldn't score and they were losing a lot of games.

They actually fell back to 500 after a 5-0 start. And there was a lot of talk about going to Mahomes during that stretch in Kansas City. And Andy Reed stuck with Alex Smith. And Alex Smith, they got on a roll towards the end of the year and they made the playoffs. And then they promptly went out in the first round against Tennessee. They had a 21-3 lead in that game. Tennessee came back with Marriota, but really with Derek Henry. And they won the game 2221 and they were out in the first round.

And again, they did not advance in the postseason with Alex Smith. And I think, and I forget if we've had this conversation before, I think we have. I think that that was a big mistake by Andy Reid. I think he knew. I think every offensive player knew. And that what we saw from Mahomes in 2018, what makes you think that, you know, midway through that season, if Mahomes hadn't taken over then, that he wouldn't have been a much more dynamic quarterback,

giving Kansas City a chance to go much deeper in the playoffs. So my thought on Tua is maybe they know. Maybe this guy is really something else in practice, and maybe they know that he is going to give them a really good chance to make a run much more so than Fitzpatrick. Rather than just starting the developmental process with Tua at a time in which they have a decent team. I think you're absolutely right.

You look back to the Alex Smith situation. I think it was just the one year before. They made it almost the entire year without him throwing one touchdown pass to a receiver. They were still a decent team. This year that he finished that they didn't have a playoff win with Mahomes on the bench, there were four or five games where they were anemic offensive. Anemic. They started out outstanding.

But then Alex in that offense was anemic for a stretch through the middle of the season where they, I think, were one and five or something in the middle of the stretch. It's interesting that they didn't go to Mahom. but I think that's just reads old school commitment to a guy that he's had within a season. Right. Look, you do. Kevin, it's not maybe they know. They know or they think they know.

I mean, they firmly believe that Tua gives them a better chance to win at this point in the season than Fitzpatrick. And that's crazy because Fitzpatrick this year is completing over 70% of his passes. Right. I mean, he's been really, really good. He's still throwing seven picks to 10 touchdowns, but he's still been good this season. The other part of this, I think that if you did start to get into a stretch run, there's never a time when you want to bench a first rounder when you put him in like Tua. But if Tua wasn't good enough through four games, you could say we thought we knew. We wanted to give him an opportunity.

And right now we're going to go back to Ryan. We believe in Tua. He'll be our guy next year. I don't think that you would be, I don't think it would be derogatory towards Tua or towards his career or anything negative with what you were doing with the guy. It's a balsy decision by Brian Flores and the organization, if it's the organization beyond Flores. And I shouldn't assume that it is because he's actually done a pretty good job.

Remember, they went from tanking for Tua early in the season last year to putting in Fitzpatrick late in the game against us. and nearly pulling off the comeback, to then winning five of their final nine games, you know, and doing it in a way in which they decided not to tank for two. And they ended up getting Tua anyway, you know, with the fifth overall pick. So it worked out for them if that's the guy they wanted. Now, unfortunately, they worked their way out of Joe Burrow if they had Burrow evaluated at a higher level. I hear, I disagree with you.

I think that the one thing about Tua, about what? watching him at Alabama, and I've mentioned this many times, and it would have worried me, is that every single time Tua was playing on that CBS SEC Saturday game against A&M or LSU or Mississippi State, it was even money at some point during the game he was going to be hobbling badly. He had ankle injuries, then he had the hip. He had everything. He was always injured. Fitzpatrick, in my opinion, will not be dealt by the trade deadline to someone like Dallas, as an example. because he's there to back up Tua in the event that Tua gets hurt. But I think they've inserted Tua for good unless he gets hurt.

They're inserting him because they think they've got something that they're about to unleash on the league. And that, you know, Andy Reid probably would never admit it because they love Alex so much. And it worked out with Mahomes moving forward, him sitting the whole. year. But Andy Reed would probably, I bet you he would admit, if injected with truth serum, that they probably would have either won the Super Bowl or gotten a lot further had he gone to Mahomes in the middle of Mahomes' rookie year and sat Alex Smith. I'll bet you he would admit in that, like what you're suggesting is hindsight that they would have won a Super Bowl scene. Maybe not, yeah. Mahom, but I'll bet you he would admit in the time he probably knew Mahomes was

better. I bet that if you said at the time, what did you, who did you think was a better player? They would have thought Mahomes was a better player. Here, here's another thought as we're sitting here on the Tua situation. This is such a great opportunity for a young quarterback to come play in a competitive season halfway through. You're not throwing him in to a team that's doomed towards the end of the year and letting him run around and take hits and see what a young guy's got. you're actually going to see in a competitive stretch of the season who your young quarterback is and you're also giving him that opportunity to lead a pretty good football team right now through the back half of the season.

Yeah, these are important games. He's going to be quarterbacking in games on a team that could win a division that seems winnable for the first time in 20 years. And in hindsight, maybe Flores is actually sitting in not hindsight, but looking at it, maybe Florence is actually sitting there and saying we're probably not a Super Bowl team. this year. But to be a Super Bowl team next year with Tua, we need him to play right now. It's a little Bill Walshian, but just saying we might not be able to beat the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Steelers, some of these big-time AFC teams as we get to the playoffs, but we need to be

able to beat them next year. We could still be a playoff team, and that's going to be huge, and we think Tua is going to take us just as far as Fitzpatrick, but maybe he doesn't. I mean, rarely coaches look at it that way, or players never do. But if you looked at it wisely, do you think Miami's a Super Bowl team? No, I don't. But I think what you're saying is ends up being a nice result. But when you're sitting here at 3 and 3 with a division to go get and win potentially because it's winnable and getable for the first time in, you know, two decades

because Brady and the Patriots, Brady's gone and the Patriots aren't the Patriots potentially, I think if you thought that Ryan Fitzpatrick gave you the best chance to win the division, even though you don't think you're a Super Bowl team, you would go try to win the division. And I'm not saying that would be the right strategy, but that would be the emotional. But I'm reading, by the way, Flores just held his press conference just moments ago, and the quotes are just coming out. And, you know, they're raving about Tua and how hard he works in meetings and walkthroughs and his rapport with teammates.

And then the teammates are saying things like he's been phenomenal. He's been great. The progress that he's made. Apparently, too, he's incredibly well-liked. We'll see. I just, I mean, that would show a lot of vision if you think, like, you know, okay, he may not be as good as Fitzpatrick right now, but Fitzpatrick is going to maybe get us to 9 and 7

and have a chance at the postseason, but we won't do anything. Maybe we go seven and nine and miss the playoffs, but we're setting ourselves up for next year. I mean, that would take a lot of vision as well. It's been interesting to watch the dolphins, actually. An interesting franchise the last two years. They're doing things right. They're getting rid of players, although I think getting rid of Minka Fitzpatrick was crazy. But they are getting rid of players that don't want to be there. They're acquiring picks. They're young. They must like Flores, you know. They're an interest in. If two is the right guy, then look out.

Look out over the next couple of years. No, I think you're absolutely right. You know, just quickly, you mentioned Dallas trading for Fitzpatrick. Fitzpatrick would be awesome in that offense. Right, but with two his injury history, I bet they... Throw the ball three big time receivers offense. Dallas sitting there saying we can still win the division and they'll take one more look at Andy Dalton, but you might get something out of Fitzpatrick.

I know I agree with that. And maybe what I just said about Miami, it's sort of being an outside the box, you know, organization, you know, trading tonsil for all that they got for Tunsel and trading Fitzpatrick, et cetera. Maybe they would say, well, we don't care if two has got a backup. right now. Dallas is willing to give us, you know, a conditional third for Ryan Fitzpatrick right now because they're so desperate and they can win the division at 5 and 11, and they're already, they've already soured on Dalton. I don't know. Maybe. They haven't soured on Dalton yet, but it could

happen fast. So that's the last thing I want to get to before we get to your film breakdown, and that is the reports out of Dallas. This is crazy. First of all, you know, I mentioned this morning, Cooley, that when you see teams' seasons basically completely implode, one of the common denominators are injuries. It may start with losing games that you shouldn't lose, and then players starting to snipe and starting to be quoted anonymously, et cetera. But ultimately, when a season truly falls apart, it's because you can't overcome all of the lost players. and Dallas has lost a lot of players. They lost another offensive lineman.

You know, Tarran Smith out for the year. That was a big loss. And then Dallas recently, on Monday night, Zach Martin is in concussion protocol. And then Brandon Knight, who was backing up Tauron Smith, you know, injured his knee in that game. They are literally in that spot Washington was in in 2017 when they played the Cowboys here.

And when they were still decent at 3 and 3, 3, 3, and 4, four and three, whatever it was, and people were introducing themselves in the locker room to one another before that game. I'll never forget that particular game. I don't know why I remember that game so well, but it was like, it was such, leading up to that game that week was just brutal because it was like Tyler Catalina, T.J. Clemmings, come on in. Remember Todd Bergstrom? Old Todd Bergstrom. He's here. Who's here? Who's here? I don't know. He sued him up. He's got to play tomorrow. And that whole season...

He was Tony, though. He was Tony, but we call him Todd. I don't know why we call him Todd. But we refer to him as Todd. Always. But the Cowboys are decimated injury-wise, and then here comes the sniping about Mike McCarthy. Listen to some of these...

This is wild. Listen to what he's coming out of Dallas here. Jane Slater NFL Network had all of this, all right? the quotes from the Cowboys about what's going on because it is starting to unravel. One player told Jane Slater NFL Network, our coaching staff is, quote, totally unprepared, closed quote. They don't teach, here's another quote.

They don't teach, they don't have any sense of adjusting on the fly. Another player said, quote, they just aren't good at their jobs, closed quote. I mean, that's the best one. Just, he's just, tell me about the coaching staff. Just not good. They're not good at their jobs. You know, look, it takes one to no one. So we've suffered through all of this for a long period of time here.

And they've had their own dysfunction. You know, it's another one of the bottom feeding dysfunctional organizations. More functional than Washington. Don't get me wrong. Jerry's won a lot more than Dan has. I mean, they've had 12 and 13 win seasons. They've been division champions playing home playoff games after 12 and 13 win seasons, even though he hasn't won anything of note since he lost Jimmy or since he lost Jimmy's team.

Barry Switzer coached Jimmy Johnson's team. But I think right now in the division, they're the team that could actually really completely fall apart. Because it's not just the fact that they weren't very good. to begin with on defense. They were being absolutely torched on defense. Now they're losing one player after another on offense, especially on the offensive line, and now you've got the backbiting starting. I told you yesterday, Washington is going to win on Sunday. I don't think Washington's more than a four-win team this year, but one of the four is going to be Sunday against Dallas. And remember when I told you yesterday about the guy that said, she and you're saying there's no

line on the game, and I'm seeing it's minus three. The Cowboys are three-point favorites on ESPN.com, and I said, dude, don't tell me my business. Okay, I know what you can bet and what you can't bet. And yesterday morning, the game was off the board. And I told you yesterday, why? Because they're reevaluating the whole Cowboys situation after what they saw Monday night. And sure enough, when that line came back out, after it came back on the board, the Cowboys were one-point favorites. Now the game's a pick-em. Now it's a pick-em. It's not often you see the line drop three points. Without a massive injury.

Right. There's no doubt. The Cowboys are in big problem. I think a lot of Dallas stuff is really an attack as much on Mike Nolan as it is McCarthy. Now McCarthy is responsible for all of it. But Mike Nolan, when you watch Dallas, they run 32 different defenses. It's Joe Barry-esque. And I think McCarthy ended up saying, I'm not going to be a one-called.

defense. That's just not the path. Well, you can become a multiple defense as you progress into understanding your defense. You do need to start being able to do one or two things well as far as some of the back end stuff before you become incredibly multiple. The other thing in multiple defense that I think is hurt them is late in Vanderesh was hurt until last week. Yep. And one of your main guys in the middle who's going to make calls and make changes and adjustments and one of your smartest players and Vandreash not being there did not help them. So way too versatile defensively. When you watch them on film, you're just sitting there going,

God, they run everything and they run everything poorly. They're out of place. They're out of position. It looked like Joe Barry. It looked like our defense when you're pointing out guys way out of position. Vander Esh is a really good player. Like I think a star player who's been banged up on and off. You know, we didn't mention this and this is the last thing.

And then we'll get your film breakdown, I promise. You know who's played very well for them on a terrible defense, but he looks like he did when he was with the 49ers? Alden Smith. Yeah. He's really good. I mean, no one wanted to take a shot at him. I mean, he was out of the league for four years.

Four years. He's got, I'm pulling it up right now through six games. He's got four sacks. He's fast. But anyway, they stink. They could be on the verge of completely falling apart. I do not think they're going to win the division. I think it's going to be Philadelphia,

and I actually think the Giants will make a bit of a run. I think the Giants might win tomorrow night against Philadelphia. The Eagles are so banged up, so banged up. And I think we could be sitting here on Monday, not that this is the way it's going to end, I think we could be sitting here on Sunday with the Giants and Washington at 2 and 5, basically tied for the division lead.

Well, I guess Dallas would be 2 in 5 as well, with Philadelphia 1, 5, and 1. Anyway. I would be surprised. The craziest thing about Dallas. DeMarcus Lawrence, Don Terry Poe, Anton Boyd's, Tyrone Crawford, Alden Smith, and Everson Griffin up front.

I know they've got Griffin. I forgot about that. And they actually are a good rush defense. They can pressure. Right. They are just so bad and so disconnected in the back end of things that it doesn't matter. You know, you're right.

It's wild. Like Dallas is always talented. They always seem to implode. find ways to lose games. Philly always start seasons with a ton of promise, but it gets banged up almost every year. Somehow they just get banged up in Philly. And then they make a late run. And then they do, they end up finding a way to make a late run. Then there's us who just is us. Sucks. Yeah. And all of a sudden, here come the O and five giants. God, the NFC East is terrible. It's a bad division. The Cowboys in the Bad Division. The Cowboys in the East.

Eagles right now are basically co-favorits at even money to win the division. The Giants in Washington are both 8 to 1. I'm thinking about putting some money on the Giants. Why not at 8 to 1? They're not, you know, somebody accused me of saying yesterday to you that the Giants were good. I did not say that. I said that the Giants aren't as bad as people think. And it wouldn't surprise me if they ended up winning, you know, like five games.

something like that and being in the hunt. It wouldn't surprise me if that happens. The Giants break is terrible. That's what I said. Would you say? They're not bad. They're not a terrible football team. Yeah, but they're not a good team.

I'm just saying they're not nearly as terrible as most people think. That's my own point. Not at all. They have some talent. They have some players. Yeah. All right. Let's get to Cooley's defensive film breakdown from the giant game right after this word from one of our sponsors.

We're going in depth. Play-by-play. The Cooley Film Breakdown. Here's Cooley and Kevin. The defensive film breakdown from the Giants game, all 46 plays. Yeah, there weren't a lot of plays. There really weren't a lot of plays. It's incredible that they lost a ballgame where they had 70 plus offensive plays

and 40-some defensive snaps. Right. But if you do that enough, you're going to win more games than you lose. You're going to win 90 plus. percent of ball games where you have that many more snaps. Just a big part of why they didn't have quite as many snaps was because they had a sack fumble touchdown and they had another interception on a short field. And if you don't get turnovers, you're not going to win as many games as you lose.

That's right. I just wanted to, you asked about Kendall Fuller playing safety. And I wanted to go through that before we really go. Yeah, did he or didn't he? So he did play safety on a couple third down snaps. and he also played inside nickel on a third down snap. It was only in third down situations. But here was the interesting one.

And they obviously had a plan and they wanted to confuse Jones with some coverage things. But on the first third and six that Jones ends up getting deep to Slayton, right? Yeah. Your best cover corner in an all-out blitz situation is now playing single high in the middle of the field. and you instead put Fabian Moreau outside on Slayton. Oh. Now, maybe they believe that Fabian is their best man-to-man guy and would be the best guy to lock down Slayton in that situation.

But if you think about it, your best cover corner and the guy that leads the league in picks is now sitting in the middle of the field, king quarterback to all-out blitz. and you put a lesser corner outside on Slayton. Why do you think they, other than the fact that they've had issues at safety, why do you think they, I've heard people say. I can answer this question.

Okay, answer the question because I didn't get the question out, but I know you know what the question is. So go. Well, the question is, or the answer is they've had so many problems in the middle of the field, especially in third down situations with guys dropping into zones. and you basically are saying Kendall Fuller is your best quarterback eyes read guy. Right. And we'll come and show one blitz early in the game with Fuller Deep

and then we'll be able to play some of those zoned coverages with Fuller in the middle of the field. I would bet you as well that they had more of a package for third down and long where Fuller was going to play middle of the field robber with stick stuff. On third and longs. They just didn't get to any third and long. Got it. Giants were always in third and five or less. So I think that you probably could have seen Fuller back there more often.

And in like one of the snaps on a third down and longer, they played a cover two where the corners play the deep halves. And Fuller looks like he's the middle high safety, but he actually ends up becoming what is the Tampa Mike linebacker, the robber in the middle of the field. So it's like it becomes sort of like three, cover three, but Fuller's now able to rob. He doesn't have any true deep responsibility. So they played him there in one situation. They played him inside at nickel in one situation. And I ultimately, Kev, I think it's because you've just given up way too many plays in the middle of the field in third down situations. And Fuller's probably your best player there.

What was he playing on his interception? You play man to man. Okay. And the guy runs a corner. He does a great job pressing him and falls off late. Balls. I honestly, I think Daniel Jones was trying to throw that out of the back of the end zone. And Chase Young got just enough.

pressure to force the throw to not get enough distance to get out of the end zone. Right. I do. I think Daniel Jones was just trying to throw that thing away or he got hit enough that it messed up the ball. It was a great defense by Fuller. And then it was a great play on the ball. It wasn't a pick, but it was.

It goes down as one. Yeah, it was not a pick. Let's start with the defensive line and Chase Young. Okay. early in the game and multiple times throughout the game a couple of times good recognizing boot and redirecting his rush to get to the quarterback to force a ball even on the ingram throw to start the game young's there to put good pressure you just he did he's got a knack for some of the run action stuff he's got a knack for boot I don't think I've seen him run down on boot

one time where he was lost this season third play of the game tackle for loss great stunt he's in the backfield big time tackle for loss uh the double reverse holcomb ends up staying home, but so does Chey Shang. And they're both in on that play. Oh, on that reverse. You know, Holcomb made the tackle, right? Yeah, and Young's right there too. He's hard to fool. Yeah. He plays high motor, high energy, high speed, but he's hard to fool. He sees things really well. He's so athletic. You know, he anticipates well. He's got a good feeling for what's going on. He's a basketball player. Remember, he played basketball at D'Matha. He's just a freak athlete, is what he is.

He's fun to watch. He run a zone read to his side, and he can sit there and freeze and hold the quarterback, but still attack run, gets in on the play and run for a one-yard game. It's just fun to watch him. His acceleration and his re-burst is so special. He's twitchy.

We talked about big-time pressure on the Fuller Interception. I thought throughout the game, even in some of the third down-in shorts where the ball's out quick, I thought he had pressure on the quarterback. I thought there was three or four pressures by Chase Young. Look, Daniel Jones never really had to hold on to the ball very long. The times where they're not getting pressure was some of the run action or he's not,

where they're double teaming him. Basically saying, we're not going to put him one-on-one with the tight end. We're not going to put him one-on-one in a situation where we want a longer developing play. He was dominant on the front side of zone holding the point, they're running at him. He's just smacked the right tackle. I think he plays nasty. I think he plays ferocious.

I think he's constantly, constantly going. You never see him slow down. He was an A in this game. Interesting. One quick thought about Chase Young that I want to response to. Number one, he drops into coverage more than I would have ever thought before this season starts. So the question one is why? Is it all zone blitz stuff?

It's all zone blitz stuff. Every time he's dropped into coverage has been a zone blitz situation. And they're dropping him away from a four-man side. So if he's on the left, they're bringing three or four to the right side. And they're dropping him away from the blitz pressures. Number two is... And also, Kev, it's really only, like, I don't think it's been more than three times in one game. it wasn't last year where montes sweat was dropping 11 times in a certain game okay what what about

what about uh opposing teams already recognizing that he's the big threat and you know focusing in and game planning for him well it's hard to do that because we'll get to the rest of the d line but montes sweat is also a guy that you have to focus in on right yeah it's actually it it should be hard to do that If they could sure up some of the middle of the field coverage, go, they're going to be, there's going to be more sacks. Young didn't have a sack in this game, but I thought he impacted so many plays. I thought he was in on runs. I thought he forced cutbacks early.

I thought he was able to run things down. I just, I really enjoy watching Chase Young play. A for Chase Young. Montez Sweat. You know, the thing you keep pointing out, and it's so true, is just the great downfield pursuit of the ball and the high motor. Yeah. He's a no-quick guy, and I didn't see that in him last year.

He must have been frustrated. It's good to get his hands up as a pass rusher when the ball's out quick. He's got a good feel for when the ball's thrown, when he get his hands up. The third and six touchdown throw to Slayton, it's a quarterback hit by sweat. It's a great rush on a third and six. and that's what I keep saying is like, God, if you can cover a little bit and get them into third and seven plus,

which they didn't, which was one of our keys to the game, you got to get them a third and seven plus. You got some big time rushers. He had a tackle for loss on a third and one, chasing ball down all the way from the back side. They ended up coming out the next play and going no snap, no play,

trying to draw them off sides. Yeah. And again, in some of the run plays against the Giants, he's just a monster at the first. point of attack. Like it's not that you're going to stretch him with just the tackle. He's pushing the tackle back two yards. And so the ball's got to cut. I mean, one time in the game, he's reached by both tight ends on the old Lombardi sweep. But that's tough because the stack set of tight ends and he's in the middle of him. If one tight end just gets it outside, it's hard for him to get there.

He didn't see it. Montez Sweat was an A-minus. How about the final giant offensive snap of the game other than the kneel downs, which came, by the way, with seven minutes and 17 seconds left in the fourth quarter. It was a third and six. It ended up being a huge play because Washington got the ball back in a tie game. But he chases, he forces the throw away. And he really, he landed on Jones. I mean, it wasn't late. I don't think it was, you know, it could have been one of those plays that got flagged,

which would have been the wrong flag. But man, from the opposite side of the field, he runs down a guy that can actually move in Jones. You know the play I'm talking about, right? I mean, it was, it was awesome. It was him. It was settle. It was Dron Payne. Yeah.

They have a good speed up front. So sweat was an A. He was an A minus. A minus, okay. Duran Payne. Yeah. His lateral quicks on runs and stunts and his hands to get into the backfield quick, especially when it's one-on-one, is really, really special.

He's really dominant at the point of attack in almost every run play. I don't know if I ever really see him, at least for sure in this game, I don't think he was ever displaced or really moved. Once or twice they had a trap or a center coming way down the line of scrimmage to kick him out. where he didn't quite see it or he wasn't in on the play, but he's up to field already a yard at that point. It's a little bit tough. I mean, he's just such a problem for people in the run game.

I mean, such an absolute problem. He had a batted ball late in the game. That was huge. That was right before the Daniel Jones throw away where sweat, Tim Settle, and Duran Payne all applied great pressure. I mean, do you just talk about that last play? God, he's just, he can roll, man. I know sweats right there too, but Durant Payne's right there with sweat.

Yeah, he's right there too, right. He can be a decent interior rusher, but some of the negatives is when he's doubled on the inside, he's not an impact. When he's doubled? As a pass rusher. If you want to consider one of the great detackles, he's going to have to become a better pass rusher

and adjust to getting doubled at times. He's just, that's just, he's going to have to do that. What is your responsibility as an interior defensive lineman when you get doubled? Well, so you have to push the pocket, right? Like you can't just loop out and give up the A gap. And so he's definitely trying to maintain pocket integrity. Or one of the coaches called it that I heard, keep the cup. You consider the pocket a cup, like you want to keep points around the cup.

So I'm not suggesting that it's awful. but he just can't split a double team. Okay. Duran Payne was an A-minus. He was really good, really good in this game. It's interesting. We talk about Payne and Allen. You know, pain in this game played more of what you call a three technique.

He was wide. So he was usually over the outside shoulder of the offensive guard. Yeah. And Alan played between the center and guard in a shade or the minus technique. I actually think they're better suited to alternate that situation. because I think Allen's less qualified to take on some of the double teams in the run game. So why do you think they're doing that? I don't know why they're,

I don't have an answer to why they're doing that. But I think in their front, what they're playing, a lot of like over front where you got pain wider. I think it's, if there be better suited to play, just alternate those two. I also think that Allen's a better rusher when you get him out with width over the guard.

I think he's a better push the pocket guy and adjust guy from a little bit more width. So I would personally think it would be better suited to alternate those two. This over front that you talk about when sometimes you end up with Chase Young way outside the right tackle and maybe the other end sweat, you know, right there on the left tackle. Is that a reaction to the – that's just the defense? that's called there? Are you seeing that consistently? Because in that situation, you end up with Allen playing between center and guard and pain in that three technique between guard and tackle. Is that the defense that's called, or do they shift into that? No, it's the defense that they're

calling. They're utilizing that overfront defense. Actually, the other thing they can do is play more of an even front where you would tighten Duran head up on the guard and you would widened John Allen head up on the other guard. The reason I don't think they play as much even front is because I don't think their backers are quick enough to diagnose and it's easier to get double teams up to the backers and especially Bostic struggles to shed. So potentially it's to have pain to eat the double team because you don't see Bostick being a true shed guy.

Now that said, Rivera's played a lot of overfront. So it's just common for what they play. Okay. But I mean, it's not like the. They're getting pushed around by the Giants. I mean, they played pretty good up front. Alan was the worst player up front for this defense. He's moved too much, especially in double teams in the run game.

Sometimes he finds a way to get back into the play late, but he's moved too early by double teams, and they're getting up to our backers. There was a Jones scramble on a third down situation where it was, I think it was third and four, third and five that Jones scrambles for first down. Alan gets way too widened up the field on that rush. I thought even in one-on-one situations in the run game, he's torched and moved too easily.

I didn't think he played well in this game, actually. And I also thought he came off the ball slow at times. And finally, he had that false start that you just, it's so funny. You have a false start knowing up front moves and the D-end or the D-Lignment points at the, like it was him. Oh, my goodness. What happened there? dogs going nuts around the house right oh um yeah you know what it's funny when that happened i i really trust john allen not to make those mistakes so i was looking for maybe like who was

it yeah who was it maybe they did who was it uh no it is really interesting you're like okay who did they get um john allen was a c minus in this game wow you know Alan played 3rd 38 plays. Pain played 45 plays. Chase Young played almost every snap, 44 plays. Yeah. He's clearly back to healthy. They're playing the guys that they think are best. Now, keep in mind, they weren't on the field a lot, so they didn't need to substitute often in this game. Right. Ryan Kerrigan had, Ryan played seven plays. Yeah. Seven plays. And he had a sack, though. It's a good bull rush. He gets up and under.

that was a big play in the red zone. That was not one of those Ryan Carrigan sacks where they left him unblocked or after pressure from everybody else, the quarterback just sort of ended up in his arms. That was a good sack. It was good coverage down field, but Ryan gets inside. Am I keeping you awake? I'm awake. I told you, my knee hurt all night.

I didn't sleep very good. I know. Coolly had a head to Ice his knee at two in the morning. morning. I got to go see it. I never go to the doctor. So me going to the doctor to have a discussion today is an interesting choice in my opinion. And you know I'm hurt. Yeah, you're hurting. There's a big difference I have between pain and injury. And I think I'm in the middle of injury. Well, I mean, you've had a... I didn't even do anything. Nothing happened. My knee just started hurting real bad. Like a knife in it bad. Well, this is why the giants didn't sign you. They they knew you were going to have issues with that me.

That was 2013. 2014. Come on. All right. So, Ryan Carrigan. Right. Ryan Carrigan was a B. I noted, like, he's just, he's got no reburced, no counter move, no second effort.

And I'm not saying it's lack of effort, although I did point that out last week. There's just, when that key, when that car stalls, it's, you're going to sit there and pump the key for a little bit. Just slowing down, man. Just slowing down. But he was a beating next game. One of the things real quickly, and I'm going to not be able to have the quotes because I just remembered reading something from yesterday.

It could have been on Twitter. I don't know. But Ron Rivera making comments about John Allen and Ryan Carrigan and about their leadership and their want to and their maturity. and, you know, this is what, you know, and by the way, I can appreciate that. I mean, I want, there's been too much in this organization over a long period of time of rewarding, you know, immaturity and elevating immaturity. So I'm glad that's the case.

But my point is, is twofold. One, you know, they picked up the option on John Allen. It would not surprise me at all if before the end of the year or really very quickly after the year, Alan gets signed to a long-term deal here. They're not going to want to lose him, no matter how much talent they have up front. And two, I don't think they'll trade Kerrigan before the trade deadline, no matter what they're going to get. First of all, I don't think the owner wants Carrigan. They're not getting anything. I understand that. But would you take a seventh? You're not going to get a seventh. Wow. Okay. The other point would be...

I'm not sitting here telling you that Ryan Kerrigan hasn't had a great career. I know. You're not. You're telling me he's not worth anything and that nobody would want him. Like if they cut him, you're saying no one would pick him up, basically. I'm telling you that anybody knows that they don't have to give up a seventh. If he's a free agent, they'll be able to. I'm talking about if somebody wanted a veteran pass rusher or a perceived veteran pass rusher for a late run this year. If you had a guy get hurt, maybe a seventh. Okay. My point is that he's going to make is the owner's never going to let Carrigan finish his career anywhere but here. That's a, that's a whole ceremony that the owner lives for, lives for it. You know, the Carrigan ceremony when it retires and

going into the ring of fame and the whole thing. So anyway, continue, Carrigan was a B. What about Tim Settle? Tim Settle had a couple good penetrations in the run game on a couple of stunts. He played 17 plays. He had great pressure on the last drive to force of scramble. Tim's got a quick burst to him. He also had that roughing the passer penalty that is really hard to avoid. I hate those penalties where they're falling off a block and they fall into the quarterback Yeah, I hate that call. That's a stupid call. He'll probably get fine for that too.

That's ridiculous. Settle was a B in this game. Let's get to the linebackers. Did Ryan Anderson played some? Yeah, Ryan Anderson, I have one note held point well against front side zone no grade no i didn't grade ryan anderson i didn't have enough how many plays did anderson play um Anderson play he was fine he was he was good he was played six plays he was fine he didn't stand out or not stand out in this

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I'm going to start with Cole Holcomb. Played 35 snaps in this game. Right. He ended up with five or six tackles. without bearing the lead to this, he has very good instincts. He's the best linebacker on this team. There's just, I'm not, I just don't think there's a debate to this. His ability to come up, play through an offensive lineman,

still have his gap, make tackles in that gap, was really good. He's got a good nose for the football. He's got speed to get there. some of the big time plays. Man, and we talk about coming up blocks. The quarterback draw on the red zone. Yeah. That's a touchdown.

If Cole Holcomb doesn't come off the block of the running back right there. I don't know if Bostic ends up making that play. I think Jones scores. That was like a third and 12, too, right? Third and 11. Good stay at home on the double reverse. Great job forcing the edge on a third and one tackle for loss that Montez Sweat made from the backside. Great job fighting through Blossi.

blocks to make tackles. One time it makes an arm tackle on the running back, fighting through a block. It's awesome. Not going to make all of those, but he made it. There's a third and one they end up converting out in the flat, but I thought it was a good understanding of the concept. It was good initial width on the pre-snap,

because he can see that he's responsible for the flat out there, and he makes the tackle for like a yard and a half. It's a good throw and catch. They got a yard and a half on a third and one. At times overran a couple things. Um, I've noted this as something I wanted to discuss, though, and you're welcome to bring this up. It's a first and 10 run action pass on the 14 play drive. The ball's at the 47 yard line.

It's a completion for like 18 yards in the middle of the field. Um, to the right side. I'm looking for it. Sorry. I've been talking about backer drops and backer depth and not being a big time problem for this defense. And this is one of those glaring, I know I'm right situations. Holcomb's playing more of the middle of the field or the defensive right side. Bostick's playing more of the hook on the left side. The ball's thrown over Bostick's head. At the point the ball's thrown, Colcom is six yards deeper

than Bostick. Bostick sees that it's a play action. He just doesn't get any death. depth. If you don't get back to 12, 13 yards, you don't turn that throw down. You've got to get back to 12 or 13 yards in some of these plays like Holcomb does in the middle and then come up and attack the checkdown throw. Yeah. Holcomb has better instincts for where they're going to throw the ball. I'm watching that play right now. I don't know if Bostic understands how DP actually is on this play because he sees it and he starts to drop to his zone. You just have to know that when they're trying to go with some of those hard run action looks, they're not trying to throw the ball at seven yards. They're trying to throw the ball over your head at 20 yards.

So if you can get back on those plays where you get into the throwing lanes, you can break these things up or make the quarterback go in another direction. Now, Holcomb doesn't necessarily have a receiver to his side, but the ball is thrown over Bostick's head on the offensive right side. To Slayton. To Slayton in the middle of the field. That is a prime example of coaching linebacker depth and hook angles and where you need to be in the middle of the field on a run-action pass.

And you can see, again, not to belabor this, Holcomb has a sense that when he reads run action, he's got to get deeper. I love this in Holcomb. I've consistently disliked this with Boston. I thought Cole Holcomb was an A-minus in this game. I thought he played very well. That's promising because if he stays healthy, they at least have one linebacker that can play.

Although you like KPL's athleticism. I do think KPL has some athleticism. I constantly say that, man, KPL is a heck of a flat defender in zone. Fourth quarter talking about KPL. They throw a ball out in the flat and he makes tackle for two. And I'm like, great flat defender. He'll make a play out in the flat. He will make a play out in the flat.

And he'll make a hard tackle too in the flat. Oh, he'll bring you down. You go out on the flat and he'll bring you down. He uses that sideline as the 12th defender. You've got no chance. He's a flat playing monster. Is that where we... It's not a bad thing for linebacker.

Is that where we are, KPL? Yeah, KPL. There's some stuff to KPL, like, He's a good shed of an offensive guard, and he's in on a tackle in the backfield. I thought good run fits, and I noted this, and I believe this firmly, and it's a one-game thing, but this is more like through six games. His instincts to track run plays from the backside when runs away from him is actually pretty good. He's in on run plays away from him.

His front side fits are average. man Daniel Jones juked the shit out of him on a third and four scramble in the second half mistackled. Oh yeah, I remember that one. He's blocked out of too many plays without enough shed of blockers. But there was a run play where he's blocked out of the play on a duo play, but he still has enough motor and speed to get into the play and make a tackle 10 yards down the field. I like KPL works.

I like the speed and athleticism and no quit. And I think he's got some violence to him. He was a C plus. I'm just, I have the play in the flat where they throw to Freeman in the flat deep in their own territory. Freeman ain't going anywhere. You don't throw up a flats with KPL. No, no, no, and he nails him.

Yep, he did. C plus, you said, right, for KPL. Okay? Bostic. Bostick. No recognition of boot play action. First play of the game. Like, oh, shoot, it's a boot.

and I'm doomed. There's a third and four early, maybe the first drive where he's caught up with the crosser. It's a mesh concept. So you have one crosser from one side, another from the other. And as a zone player, you've got to have eyes coming from the other side.

When someone starts to cross and go out of your zone, you can't fall them through your zone. Gives up a pretty easy catch for a first down. Overruns a counterplay with pulling guard and gets caught in the wash. No instincts for depth on past, drops, especially run action pass. Some of the positives on Bostick, there are times when he keys plays and he's in the

backfield. And if he just will step up and get closer to the line of scrimmage without being passive, which is also what Holcomb did constantly, like move up, make it harder for the angle of the double team to get to you. There are a couple times where Bostick's in there. There's also that he's in the backfield. And I think it was that Lombardi sweep where he should make a play for four-yard loss and he misses a tackle. He did miss a tackle on that Lombardi type sweep. Ultimately, in this game,

I feel a lot the same. I think he's too easily blocked. I think he's very concerned with his gap and taking on a block to keep gap integrity versus get to the ball carrier. Now it's 50-50 in this game, but I see enough that I see just play with better instincts and go get the ball. Trust you, you can keep your gap and then struggles too much as a is a pastrop guy bostick was better in this game he was a C i mean you had him as an F last week he well it was really bad last week you like my your grandma would have graded him as an F you you liked him early in the season when they used him as a blitzer we haven't seen that as much no especially in first and second down situation Because he's got some speed.

He can run. Yeah, he's stiffer than KPL or Holcomb, though. Understood. He's more of a straight line speed guy. He's not a lot of lateral quicks. So your linebackers, KPLC plus, Bostic C, Holcomb A minor. All right. Let's get to the secondary right after this word from one of our sponsors.

The secondary, Kevin, I'm going to let you play dealer's choice. Okay. You pick the player all guys. give the analysis. Where do you want to start? Landon Collins. He seems to be a lightning rod right now. First play of the game.

Zero recognition of boot action. Ingram runs right past him. Now, it looks like they're in thirds, and I'm not sure how they're playing this, because Ingram runs past Darby on that side too, and it's an easy throw over the top of both of them. But my God. Come on.

Pull up the second play of the game. Second play of the game is pathetic. Freeman bounces outside, and the best tackling safety in football is sitting outside playing freaking patty cake with one of the receivers. And then it's a soft attempt at trying to tackle the back. It ends up being a mistackle. Best safety in football. Okay. Highest paid safety.

He's the best tackling blockade in football. This is not good. He's out there just dilly dallying with the receiver. And it's like, dude, you have got to make that play. Oh, that's not a good play for to pull off. I understand that they're going to come and try to block you, but I'm just going to say this now. Because I've noted it five times, and I'll say it once. He's blocked way too easily by anybody.

No block shit. None. Does he have contain on this 14-yard run by Freeman or not? I think there's a corner out there, but he's probably a C-Gap player in that situation, but Freeman hits that C-Gap. Yeah, hard. Paddy-cake. Patty-cake with the receiver.

Bad cake, paddy-cake. Baker's Man. Roll up the dough. There he goes. Right past me, but I was getting blocked, so who cares? I'm not really singing that song. Early in the game,

All Out Blitz, third down and six. How about the hustle? Just real quick, because you told me to pull up the play. So Landon Collins gets patty caked by the receiver and doesn't make the play. But this is just another example

of just Montes-Swetz-Motor. It just never stopped. He made the tackle downfield 14 yards. Yeah. All right. I mean, this, they didn't give up a ton of big runs in this game. But this one's just, you watch this play and you're like, God, dang it. Oh, man.

I mean, you look at also on the same play, the second play of the game. This is dive duo, all right? Jimmy Morland is unblocked off the edge and comes flying by Freeman and gets freaking John Wall crossover and falls down about five yards past him the other direction. The same play? Yeah, to start this play. Oh, here. I'm sorry, there's Morland. I got Morland now, yeah.

The Shazer comes down, misses a tackle. Okay. Look, Freeman, Freeman is very, very good and elusive. he made some moves on people that in the open field he's going to make on a lot of people. Yeah, I understand. And just it's just not a good play for them. But back to Landon Collins, he's a contained player here. There's no doubt.

Morland's crashing Collins is playing contain. Right. But you're telling me that you're that worried that you can't button press Golden Tate and drive him right into Freeman. Right. Like he just sits and waits I'm waiting I'm waiting I'm waiting I kind of I'm doing my job I'm doing my job I'm containing he's not going to bounce it outside

and then he dives and golden tape pushes him down and golden tape goes back to the sideline and he's like dude I just punked landing columns I just dropped it how did landing Collins get pushed to the ground on that there was barely even any contact well he kind of just dove and like this Mike shanahan would call it laid a limp dick out there I love how you remember every coach that you were ever in contact with and their go-to pet descriptions. Because what?

Hey, I'm a detailed note-taking kind of guy. Yeah. I draw a line in the sand. Joe Gibbs. So third down and six on the first drive at the 25, they got an all-out blitz coming, where what looks like an all-out blitz coming that they're going to bail on. Collins is essentially responsible for the flat.

The running back goes right by him. You're like, dude, I know that you think he's going to block because you think that you really got them and showing all out blitz, but you just don't think. You should just react, and you're responsible for the peel back coming out of the flat. Back runs by him, easy first down.

He dives, doesn't make the tackle, is not going to make the tackle. I think they're playing what you call 33B, 3D, three underneath with the blitz. can't expect anything. You don't know. There is a tendency I think I'm picking up on.

Del Rio loves to send people in the red zone or near it. Yeah. And he wanted to send people early in this game. Some of their blitz stuff was really early in this game. The Daniel Jones zone read. That's Landing Collins. He gets caught up on

the run action to the back when he gets sucked in. Now he did play his own read and barely tackle Daniel Jones later in the game where Jones almost outrun him on that one. Positive. He did shed a block and make a tackle on an RPO screen late,

still a 10-yard game. And he tracks the ball really well when he's not blocked. When he goes unblocked as a box safety, he tracks the ball really well. So here's my answer to this, just so you know. I have an answer to this. when you play three, cover three, don't walk him in the box. It's something that the Seahawks used to do really well with both their safeties.

You just have, it was Earl Thomas and Camp Chancellor. Cam Chancellor. Cam Chancellor would always sit there at eight yards. Well, at eight yards, he's not necessarily a box player. Right. but you could still play gap responsibility. So the offensive line wouldn't denote Chancellor as someone that they're responsible for,

which would make him free, or it would turn him to the receivers. Play Landon Collins at eight yards. The receivers are going to have to try to push and come up and crack him at eight yards and just tell him to go get the ball and play underneath the receiver. Just go tackle the ball carrier.

Don't worry. We're going to play at eight and a half, eight yards. The line won't count. and just go free hit any back. You get him too close to the line of scrimmage, five yards, and he's slow react to run action, pass stuff,

and he's too concerned and gets cut up in too many block situations. Play him in eight and a half yards. Call it a day. That's what I've decided they can do with Landon Collins. Landon Collins was a D in this game, really more like a D minus in this game. Landon Collins has been no better than a C-minus through this entire season.

You have issues when your best player is not playing well enough. And remember. He's a big part of why he's a big part of three or four of the nine total big plays they've given up this season. You had him, by the way, as a B and a B-minus in the first two weeks of the season, just so you know. If you look back to the first week of the season, I graded him as an F in the first half in an A in the second half. That's right. You did, but you ended up because he made some plays. you gave them a B.

I'm just looking. I've kept every single grade, except for, remember, we didn't grade the defense because of the breaking news after the Baltimore game on,

on, we will have to go do that. But I will have to go do that for you. No, no, I'll just give you grades. I'll just grade them. We won't do all the reports

and stuff just so you get the grades out. Because we want a consistent basis at the end of the year so we can go through all this stuff. That's a big part of what we're doing on this podcast. We're tracking the whole season. It's a historical record of the 2020 season by grades to this team.

It might be one of those four and 12 seasons that people really want to go back and immerse themselves in. You know, Collins, when they signed him, my biggest problem with him is that he became obsessed with his former team, with Dave Gettleman, with them not wanting him. I remember the statements about how he was going to make them pay for the 12 games, six years, twice a year, the 12 games. All he was talking about, that whole summer leading into the 2019 season was what he was going to do to the Giants when he played him. And that first game, he and Gettleman, you know, he went over to him and tried to him up on the sideline.

This is what drives me nuts about the players. We sign, especially when they come from teams that are. are familiar with us. It's almost like the Giants who are like, yeah, we're making him available and we really would love it if Washington signed him to that big deal. Like it's, personally, when I watch Landon Collins, I see a guy that could be a really good player. I like how aggressive he is sometimes. I know he's not having a good season. I recognize that. But this is why you just keep your mouth shut when you move on and you sign the biggest contract in the history of the game for the position. You say, God bless me. God,

thank you so much for putting me into this position. And, you know, I can't tell you how much I enjoyed my time with the Giants. And I can't wait to get to know my new teammates. And we got 16 games a year. I don't even want to talk about the Giant Games because we have 16, we have 14 other games every year. And he was obsessed with his former team and threatening of his former team about what he was going to do to him. D-minus. D-minus. How about Deshaeser Everett? Hold on one second.

Here's the other thing that I would say about if you're coaching him right now in what I saw from Landon Collins in New York and what I have seen at times and kind of watching this defense, I would say, Landon, you're a read-and-react player with really solid instincts once the ball snapped and like pretty exceptional athletic skills to go make plays. Stop trying to think you know what the offense is doing. You're not a playmaker. You just, you're getting fooled way too often because I think he thinks he knows. Like, I got this.

I know I've seen this. Here we are. I think he's getting beat because he's trying to make plays because he's trying to know what they're doing on defense. Just read and react. Put him at eight and a half yards. Let him read and react. he's a hook playing safety that comes down on the box and don't let him get blocked we're done we solve

the problem and hey don't talk about everybody else and let's not talk about how good we are just read and react and go make place that's what you're here to do would you deal him at the trade deadline yep I would what would you get for him second maybe well that's when he was drafted you might get a third but I just what's his cap situation right now It would be expensive, but they have all that cap room. I mean, you would get the acceleration on the trade, but you would, but you've got so much room for next year. You could absorb it.

You have so much room. You're responsible for the guaranteed money, but someone can split some of the cap costs with you in a trade situation. Sure they could. Well, they could pick up that expense, but you're going to absorb it on the cap number. You're going to absorb the guaranteed number. Yeah. So the guaranteed number, you would absorb. for 2021, 5 million, and for the rest of this season, eight games, another 5 million.

Essentially, you're absorbing 10 million on your cap in guaranteed number, and then whatever else would be negotiated, and you'd get a third back or a second back. Yeah, I'd do. I would do it. I don't know if they can get it done, and it's not going to happen because Dan loves him. You know, the only thing in Clinton said this to me yesterday on radio, at least he didn't take number 21.

At least that wasn't available to him. He wanted it. I know. I feel like the only way you can get a number like that is to have about four seasons with three Pro Bowls where you're a monster. And then it'd be awarded to you. Yeah, well, Duane got seven from a Super Bowl winning quarterback. That lasted a while. DeShazer Everett.

Yeah. Boy did he. Yeah, did miss tackle that second play of the game we talked about with Freeman. in the open field. He had a stupid penalty on a hit on Jones, which was not good. But then throughout the game, I thought it was fairly consistent in coverage down the field.

There weren't a lot of plays to cover down the field. He did have a great drive on a dig, and he just smashed CJ board, knocked him out of the game, which you don't necessarily love. But that was a great drive on a dig route by DeShazer Everett. I think he's got a burst to him. I do.

I think he can track a running back, track a quarterback in space, break on things. I think he's a good tackler. He's shown that consistently on special teams. I feel confident with him in the open field to be able to make some plays. And he's physical. He is a physical dude.

He's a hitter. Damn. That was a good change. God, he's hitter. He's a big hitter. Remember this, too, about Everett? He really is. He's made some big plays at safety over the years.

That interception against Philadelphia that one year in 2015, in the red zone. There have been a couple of other. plays where he's just been in the right spot at the right time. And it's funny because he had a pick against Philly. Is that what you just said? Yeah. Yeah. He's got a nose for the ball.

He's got a nose for hitting. I think he's a good tackler. I thought Deschais have played pretty well in this game. It wasn't like he was consistently challenged down the field. So we'll see what it looks like when that starts to happen. But he's fast. He plays fast. And when he comes out of a back pedal,

or when he opens his hips to run, he's got some acceleration. The Shazer Everett was a B. At least he hits people. Apkey couldn't even get near people. Everett smacks people when he has a chance. Yeah. Everett's tough. He's one of my favorite players in that building, too. Personally, you mean?

Personally, I love him. How old is he now? He's got to be 30 now. He's been on this team for six, seven years, right? I don't think so. No? Five? Four? Longer than that, he was on the 2015 team.

Let's see. I'll bet you. I'll bet he's 27. That's my guess. I'll bet you he's older than that. 28. Oh, he's 28? He's 28 years old.

What year is this for him? I think it's year five. It is year six. Because he was on the 2015 team. He was a rookie on the 2015 team. So he had to be the, this has to be the sixth year. Okay. I'm interested why it wasn't him to start the season.

Well, because they loved Apkey's speed. The Shazers plays fast. Where do you want to go? Fuller. Fuller. Like I talked about, he played a bunch of different places in third down situations. I would love to see if they have more of a plan moving forward to let him play them in the middle of the field.

he was pretty good in coverage they really didn't challenge fuller much in this game i thought when it came to turn and run with anybody he was there he's always in position he had a dPI on a third and two that i actually looked at a bunch of times it was very close you mean the one right before the interception yeah yeah i that's getting called less than 20% of the time right to me that's more pass breakup yeah puts his one, he puts one hand and barely touches the receiver, but none of what he did on that play in terms of contact with the receiver had anything to do with the receiver not catching that ball. I didn't think it was PI. I thought it was pretty clinic. He's just a little too handsy

as he's coming up to make the play. And then the interception is huge. I mean, he's jamming the hell out of his receiver. He's right with him downfield. There's nothing there. Jones is trying to throw away, he's got a knack to go get the ball. Yeah, that PI call was bullshit. I think it was bullshit. Yeah. I think you're right. I think your percentage is right.

That's not going to get called. Well, I don't know if you're, what did you say? 20% of the time it gets called? 20% of the time. No, it's more than that, but it's less than 50. That's a good play. If it, I think it also, it depends a lot on the player. I know that's crazy.

to say, but I think some of it depends on the player. And on the interception, there's no doubt Jones under pressure from Young is just trying to unload the ball out of the end zone. Yeah, I think he's throwing it out of the back. He was targeted, I think, only twice in this game. They didn't have any receptions at him. He didn't have a tackle in this game. But he's just, he's instinctual, he's smart, he's great at Keene the quarterback. Fuller was an A in this game. I mean, if you count the DPI, which I don't believe it is, then you would downgrade that play.

It would be more like an A-minus. But I don't think it is. So I'm not downgrading it. Let's not, he's going to be in the Pro Bowl. He's leading, whenever you lead the league in interceptions, you end up in the Proble. And they're not, give me picks. No. He's made great plays on the football this season. That was huge. That was a huge pickup.

That was a bad trade when they did it, and it was huge to get him back. Well, the trade was made, as you know, for Alex Smith. And the chief said, you got to throw in more than that. We'll take Kendall Fuller. Hey, this guy, Fuller, he's all right. We kind of like him. You know what's funny is, I didn't. Hold on, was that Andy Reed? You know, this guy Fuller, he could pray. He probably talked to Bruce. into believing that he wasn't very good. You know, we've watched him. He's pretty good. Just throw him into the deal. You guys don't want him.

We need like one DB. Let me just pick a guy. I'm not even going to actually look. I'm just going to run my finger up and down the list. Close my eyes. Who's the Fuller? I don't know who that is. Is he good?

Just throw him in. Do you think, a serious question. They were so desperate to move on and make everybody forget how. they bungled cousins. Do you think that they knew what they were giving up in Fuller? Yeah. Okay.

I think Kyle Smith did. Now, it's funny. Kyle Smith did. He didn't make, Kyle Smith didn't make the trade. Bruce made the trade. I didn't ask you whether or not, I know Kyle knew what Fuller was.

Well, Kyle would have told him what he was given up. Now, keep in mind. They didn't even tell anybody about the trade. Remember, Doug didn't even know about the trade. Hey, Doug. there's gonna something's gonna happen here you'll find out tomorrow fuller was a mcclwin draft i know it was and oh i didn't like full oh yeah just reminded me you and i were sitting in the studio doing the show one day the show was over scott walks in mcclwin talking about the draft and you just and this is what coolly

did in that building and i'm sure this is you know some people absolutely appreciate it and others were like Jesus Christ. Do I have to, what else does he have? And you just looked right at Scott and said, I don't like Fuller. I don't see it with Fuller. You were wrong about him. And McLuhan said, nah, trust me on this one. This guy's going to be able to, he's going to be a good player.

So. Do you remember that day? You and him arguing about Fuller? Specifically. Yeah. When you go back and look at Fuller, he had a shit last two seasons in college. At Votech? At Votech.

But he had had a, I think he tore his ACL at Votech after his freshman season. And I didn't watch his freshman season. And he's actually really good as a freshman at Votech. So had I been scouting, I think I would have been told to watch all the tape. For third time, but for a radio show, I watched about eight games from two seasons. And he was hurt a lot of those games, a lot of those seasons. I'm like, it's not there. And then his rookie year in Washington was not good.

He still wasn't healthy. It was not a good season, his rookie season. And then he really came on his second year. I did say that. I'll never forget just sitting there, and I'm thinking, McLuhan's just looking at you. And McLuhan, he respected your opinion. I do remember that.

But I remember him just trying to convince you. No, no, no, you're going to be wrong about Fuller. Fuller's going to be a good player. You're going to be a really good player. And then through one entire year, I'm like, no, I'm not. Yeah. You had Fuller where in this game in A? I think he's an A.

I mean, it's not like he made, it's mistake-free football, be where you're supposed to be. He made a big play in this game. I didn't like the pick-call. I don't know how to downgrade him for not getting thrown at. All right. Let's get to Darby and Moreau. I think that'll do it for the day. Yeah, and Jim.

Oh, and Morland and Morland. Yeah. So quickly, Darby. Run action. I think he misses the tight-in sneaking out in his third on boot early in the game. Late trail early in man coverage all the way across the field gives up an easy out route in man coverage. He's just too late coming across the field. He did have a pass breakup on CJ Board on the second drive.

He had a great, this is a run-action pass. He's playing on the far side of the field, and he's still responsible for certain. This far deep crosser comes, and he's got a lot of. a good vision. He goes and backs it up and sees it. Like, quarterbacks want to throw that because they're letting DeShazer kind of cut and come up. And so you're hoping that backside corner doesn't sluff off into the play. And Darby's pretty consistent with that. I would like him to be better at driving on in-breaking routes.

In this game, it came up twice. And when I say that, I know he's playing a third in a lot of these plays. And so when you get a 15-yard in-breaking route, essentially they're disappearing from your third. but if nobody else is going to challenge your third, just lock it. That to me probably isn't Darby, though. That's probably the way it's coached. You know, so what I'm saying is he's playing one third of the defense. Right.

And his guy starts to bend into the middle of the field. And he's essentially turning it over to underneath coverage. In those situations, when you know nobody else can get deep in your third, just lock it. I'll bet you that's coaching. I would. I would bet you that that's that's in terms of that's what they're telling him to do is your point. Yeah, I think just just fall off the corner and we should get enough depth from underneath to make the quarterback not throw that thing. It would be my guess on how that, because I just, this is six weeks in a row that I see him do that where he's clearly being coached to do that. If he's told to lock it, he's not just going to softly turn and let him get right inside of him.

That's kind of what I feel. Gave up one reception to C.J. Board. He's just average when it comes to tackling out there. Ronald Darby was a B-minus in this game. We have two left. So Jimmy, chance to make a tackle for loss in the big play on the first drive of the game off the edge. miss. Did come back, make a good tackle on the flat in the second half, good boot recognition.

It's a good tackle and run down to Daniel Jones on the zone read. It's probably a touchdown if Moorland doesn't track that all the way from the backside. That was, I think Daniel Jones scores there if Morland doesn't get into him. Morland was a C-plus in this ballgame. And that's pretty much it, right? Fabian played seven plays, gave up a touchdown. so you're essentially saying not good, that's an F. And Curl only played two snaps.

Why do you think that is? No, play two snaps. I want to talk, we can talk about curl. One of the two snaps was a third down and 10 on the last drive. And that's your in the middle of the field zone coverage situation. You give up that hook at the sticks right in the middle of the field and curls five yards outside of it. That guy, he's the only guy around you.

I mean, nobody else is getting in your zone. Can't give that up. Curl is tough. He's got a mean streak. He plays your tackles. He fights. He battles. He's shit in coverage.

And that's why he had his massive reduction in snaps. Well, and the fact that Holcomb was back. So he was playing a lot of linebacker at times. Wilcum took the role that Cameron Curl was in. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. But part of me just thinking, Well, so the problem with Curl is he's way too impacted by action in the backfield.

He's thinking, man. He's thinking a lot out there. But when he sees it, he's good. When he feels comfortable, he's really, really good. And so that and that's going to be more times than not. But when it's not, it's not good. He's out of position. I really do think Cameron Curle's got some potential.

He looks like a rookie. Right. Right. He plays like a rookie, relentless, with violence, good tackling ability. is fearless when it comes to taking on offensive linemen, but is also not trustworthy. Okay. I think you covered it. I mean, I think the thing that continues to stand out about this football team

is that the strength of the football team is Chase Young, Montez, Sweat, Duron Payne, John Allen. I mean, but, you know, really pain, young, and sweat, and then McLorn offensively. I forget if we talked about this yesterday. Well, add to me, to me in my opinion, and this goes back to last year, add Holcomb into the mix and Kendall Fuller as really good defensive players. Okay, but what I was going to say to you is we've always done this thing over the years about A players, you know, or blue chip players. Let's use A players.

And for years, they had one A player on the team and it was Trent Williams. That was it. And Tress Way. But Trent Williams in terms of position players. I think you can look at their roster. If you want to look glass half full and say they've got more potential future A players on their roster than they've had in a long, long time. Young, sweat, pain, McLaurin, for sure.

Those four guys right there are potential, you know, if, I mean, young may already be an A player. But all four of them have a chance to be A NFL players, blue chippers. The other guy that should be, and I think if he's healthy for a while as sheriff. Yeah. He's right now a red plus. Red plus with an arrow going down. Right. You've had the arrow going down.

I mean, you've not been impressed. You love him as a mauler in the run game, but more times than not, you've not graded him, well, including against the Giants on Sunday. You had him as a C. I'm keeping track of all these. All right. You know the other interesting move in the offseason that made me think. about this game. And it's more like

they needed safety help and stuff, but God, they gave away Quentin Dunbar for nothing and it was caught up in culture change. Yeah. Now, he had a tumultuous off-season, so I do understand that. You don't want to start fresh as a coach, but Dunbar would be good in this zone defense.

Dunbar is a starter there. I mean, he is a defense that gets gashed every week. It's true, but he's played well. In the games that I've seen Seattle, he's played well and when were they just on national television and oh the Collinsworth um the Sunday nighter from a week ago they were talking about Dunbar and how much the coaching staff likes

them anyway all right uh you will be back with me on Friday we'll preview the big one I mean a showdown on Sunday for a piece of first place between Washington the football team and the Dallas Cowboys uh have a great day everybody. I'm back tomorrow with Tommy and then Cooley on Friday.