The Kevin Sheehan Show - "Cuz They Stupid"

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:02 You don't want it. You don't need it, but you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheehan Show. Here's Kevin. And another thing, you want to know why they're really mad, though? They mad because they're stupid. They're dumb. They mad that they pay me $50 million in eight months.
Starting point is 00:00:26 And then, boy, they're my guarantees for 2027. And I'm about to be on a new team in 2027. They mad that they're mad at they. They're sales for real. Niggas acting like they mad at me, but they stupid-ass mad at they sell. Guess who? Another video from our friend Brandon Ayyuk. This one titled, Because They Stupid.
Starting point is 00:00:50 The show's presenting sponsor is always, Window Nation 86690 Nation, windonation.com if you need new windows. I have a feeling this isn't going to be the last video. It's certainly feeling. like this may be a thing for him, and maybe even part of a strategy that he's come up with in his mind. I'm actually curious as to, you know, is this actually strategic on his part? Is it just that he's really upset and angry that they haven't released him yet? Or are we just listening
Starting point is 00:01:29 to a guy that's got some issues ramble a little bit here and there? Um, you. You, You know, when he says about the 49ers and another thing, and I have a feeling we're going to get a lot of and another thing in the future, when he says you want to know why they really mad. They mad because they're stupid. They dumb. They mad because they paid me $50 million in eight months and then voided my guarantees in 2027. I mean, could anybody state anything more obvious? I think he felt like he was revealing something. But of course, anybody that's been following along knows that the 49ers are not very happy
Starting point is 00:02:20 about the contract that they gave Brandon Ayuk in the summer of 2024. They paid him of the $120 million four-year extension. They paid him $50 million, which they had to. to. It was part of the signing bonus and part of 2024 and 2025, you know, before he had gone AWOL. So they paid out 50 million of a contract that could have paid him $120 million. And what they got back for it was nothing on the field. Seven games in 2024 before he got hurt, 25 catches, no touchdowns before the injury. And since the injury, you know, we have gotten a,
Starting point is 00:03:03 guy and the 49ers got a guy for 50 million already laid out there. And by the way, they were on the hook for a lot more than that in terms of guarantee dollars, which they were able to avoid. But they've gotten a guy that allegedly violated his contract by going AWOL, by going MIA, by ghosting the 49ers when they had the right to monitor his knee rehab. You know, I had a caller this morning that suggested maybe the reason he did. didn't go and get his knee looked at by the team doctors, is that he wasn't doing a good job rehabbing the knee. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:43 We haven't considered that. That's a possibility. But of course they're mad. Obviously, they are mad. And they probably feel stupid because there were probably signs during the contract negotiation during the summer of 2024 that at the very least, he lacked some maturity. yeah, no shit they're pissed and feel like dummies for giving you the deal.
Starting point is 00:04:10 You know, Brandon Ayuk didn't need with this latest video to highlight this shitty deal they gave him in hindsight. But he did it anyway. And the guy literally, and this is the part that's kind of entertaining about this, the guy literally put out a video reminding everybody you're informing everybody if they didn't know this, that he, Brandon Ayuk, provided no value, provided nothing in return for $50 million paid by the 49ers to him.
Starting point is 00:04:46 That he was an absolute disaster of a signing for the 49ers because he provided them literally nothing on the field and he's become a pain in the ass off the field. that's what he did with this video. You know, he stated the obvious. The 49ers feel, you know, badly about this. They're mad that they gave him this deal. They probably feel somewhat stupid about giving him the deal.
Starting point is 00:05:13 But he also, you know, brought the attention to himself, hey, man, I'm the guy that they paid 50 million to and gave him nothing in return. Now, in reality, that deal was in the moment in the summer of 2020. based on his production at the end of 2023, and really where it appeared he was headed as a player. He was an ascending player. That deal was not a deal that people said, oh my God, terrible deal.
Starting point is 00:05:44 They overpaid him. You know, you can't predict injuries, devastating injuries. They're part of the game. You can, however, predict behavior, and that may be where they're kicking themselves, you know, that perhaps they ignored some of the, red flags during the very difficult and contentious and very public 2024 contract negotiation.
Starting point is 00:06:08 They ignored it because he was so good on the field, which he was in 2023. He was a big part of that team making the Super Bowl, and it looked like his best days were ahead of him. Now, back to, you know, why is he doing this? You know, what's the purpose of this video and social media barrage of the last few days. Is it actually a strategy in his own mind? Is it that he's just really upset that he isn't being allowed to get to his next team, Washington, which he certainly is pitching for? Or is it
Starting point is 00:06:47 just the ramblings of somebody who's a bit troubled right now and might need some help? Like the strategy answer, if it's a strategy that he's cooked up in his own mind, it seems, like a very flawed strategy, an ill-thought-out strategy. Maybe it'll work. Maybe I'm wrong on this. But, you know, calling out your employer as stupid and dumb and simultaneously highlighting how dumb they were to sign you to the contract extension that they signed you to, That doesn't seem like it's going to create a result where, you know, first of all, the 49ers, Kyle, John Lynch, the ownership, they decide, oh, man, we're sick of these videos. Let's get him out of here.
Starting point is 00:07:41 We're cutting him. You know, it seems to me that this franchise will be more of the type that digs in their heels more after, you know, listening and watching these videos. I could be wrong. I can only imagine how red-faced Mike Shanahan is and how pissed off Kyle is. You know, the other part of this, if it's actually a strategy, again, do you really want to remind teams that might be interested in how bad, how badly it worked out for the last team that signed him? Now, part of why it worked out so badly for the team that signed him is because they paid him so much.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And then, look, I don't personally believe that it ever really helps to publicly slam your employer and call them stupid and call them dumb. You know, some teams that may be interested in Brandon Ayyuk may watch these videos and say, yeah, you know, that could be us one day with him putting these videos out. We're next. You know, it's not a great look. It's not, I don't think, a great strategy. If that's what he's come up with in his own mind is the way that he's going to get them to release him. But you never know. The other possibility, he's just pissed off that he hasn't been released yet.
Starting point is 00:09:10 He thought post-June 1 he'd get released. It hasn't happened. That's why we've seen all of the social media activity and the recent videos. you know, that's possible. I mean, this is one of those things where it's like, dude, look, you may be angry, but have a little bit of awareness on the fact that they paid you $50 million and you ghosted them. You know, how are they supposed to handle this? You know, if you wanted them to treat you nicely and professionally, if it just didn't work out
Starting point is 00:09:49 professionally. I don't think ghosting them and not showing up for these rehab reviews was, you know, good business. It's not very courteous professionally or personally to somebody that gave you $50 million for zero production. I mean, this was unprecedented what he did and unprecedented with what they were able to void, to void. And as I've said many times, and this is the thing we know, because everything else is just now reacting to these videos and coming up with our own thoughts as to what they mean. But what we do know about this is that he didn't post, he violated his contract, and the team was able to void millions of dollars of guaranteed dollars, which was unprecedented. And so far, the player, the player's representation, the union, no one has
Starting point is 00:10:46 fought for that money back. My belief is that this is just rambling from someone who either needs help or needs good advice from somebody that he's willing to listen to. You know, one of the things that Ben Standing told me recently is that, you know, there have been some discussions and some reports out there that even his own representation, his own agent has had an issue with him over the last, you know, six to nine months, you know, in trying to, you know, help him, trying to find him. We now know that he's alive, uh, because basically no one could reach him for a couple of months. Um, but, um, yeah, I, I would guess
Starting point is 00:11:35 that this is, you know, kind of ramblings from somebody who is, you know, not necessarily all there right now. The best thing for him. And this is where, you know, I talked about it yesterday. By the way, there was another part of that message where he said, you know, until he gets to his new team in 2027, I think he meant 2026. I saw some people sort of grabbing onto that thinking, oh, he doesn't plan on playing in 2026.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I think he meant to say 2027, but, you know, trying to, you know, basically get in his head. but to correct what he did say may be dangerous. But I think he meant that he's going to play this year. But I think the thing that we haven't heard from him, now that we've heard from him, that if somebody were saying to me, hey, man, he's willing to listen to your advice, my advice to him would be start communicating about football, is nothing that you have communicated, has had anything to do with anything other than your anger and your dislike, if not hatred, for your current employer.
Starting point is 00:12:53 You know, if football is important to you, you need to let people know, A, you are ready physically to play football. You know, B, you're in shape. The knee is fine. Maybe you bring your surgeon on one of those videos. and the surgeon says the knee's been fine for a while. You've got to show yourself in shape. I'm not a big fan of the workout videos, but this would help him.
Starting point is 00:13:19 You know, I am motivated after two years, the better part of two years of not playing football, to play football again. I am focused solely on football. I so much want to get back out onto the field. That's the concerning. There are lots of areas of concern here, but that may be number one.
Starting point is 00:13:39 is that at this point, we don't know if he wants to play football again. We don't know if he's in shape to play football. We don't know if he's healthy enough to play football. How about communicate, you know, in a professional way that you can't wait to play football again and physically, mentally, you are ready, your knee is fine, and you are motivated. And then, by the way, show up for the first day of training camp, because you had a chance to potentially, you know, get them to make a move on you with showing up at OTAs. And you didn't.
Starting point is 00:14:17 If he doesn't show up for the beginning of training camp, I'm going to just at that point completely discount him. Because he doesn't want to play football at that point if he doesn't show up for training camp. Of course, there could be other reasons. And this could all stem from just an immature 27, 28-year-old. It could. but where is the person in his life that says, man, show up for these rehab, you know, reviews. Don't throw away, you know, $30 million. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah, you've made 50, but another 30 would be good because you don't have to do much to get it. Yeah, I'd like to hear more about football. So has the latest video changed my mind? No, I'm still where I've been. the bottom line is we don't know much about anything. There just has been very little reporting, if really any, on this situation. We now have him and his communication and his ramblings, and they're not encouraging. You know, somebody who basically is bragging that he got 50 million and then couldn't even show up for rehab reviews,
Starting point is 00:15:32 that's pretty unprofessional. You know, somebody that's willing to say, I got the better them because I got 50 million in my pocket and I didn't have to do anything for it. And in fact, after I got hurt, I didn't even let them look at what, you know, my knee. No, you want people in your life workwise who try to exceed the job description,
Starting point is 00:15:58 try to exceed the deal that they got. so that the next one comes much easier. I'm still where I've been. Adam Peters will have the ability to check him physically with his team doctors, to check him mentally with his team psychologists. And then if all is good on those fronts, and he's got the story as to why the behavior was what it was, and he's okay with that,
Starting point is 00:16:26 and then he can get this player on a one-year, prove it deal? Yeah, do it. That's what I would say. But the more and more this guy puts out videos, you know, he's getting to that point that, you know, he could be a few
Starting point is 00:16:46 videos away from teams just saying, yeah, no more. Not interested. And then he's going to have to go on one of those redemption tours. You know, give me a second chance tours. He could be. be nearing that. We'll see. But again, there's so much about this, so much about this, that we just don't know. On the show today, a friend of mine who has put together the largest collection of Redskins,
Starting point is 00:17:20 Washington football team, commanders, memorabilia of all time. I've had Samu Koreshi on the show before. there is a documentary coming out on Samu on Friday night. You'll hear from him on this show. And then at the very end of the show, you guys remember Steve Solomon, Sali from 980. He is running for a county council seat in Montgomery County. So he'll tell us about that at the end of the show.
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Starting point is 00:21:21 I am very much looking forward to that and talking about it on tomorrow's show. Let's just hope that Brandon Ayuk takes a day off with the video messages. Although then again, when these NBA finals are over and we've got more than a month before training camp begins, we do have an NBA draft with a local team holding the number one pick. That will be exciting. But we may be looking for content and may be thankful if Branden's, and puts out another video or two. But tonight, NBA finals, game four in the garden,
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Starting point is 00:23:22 Wembe on Jalen Brunson in game three. And they ruled that it was a foul that wasn't called and should have been. But the league said that it was not a flagrant foul and could have upgraded it to a flagrant foul. and if they had upgraded it to a flagrant foul, and what I now know why they didn't upgrade it to a flagrant foul, is Victor Wembegama would have potentially been suspended because he would have accumulated enough flagrant foul points
Starting point is 00:23:53 during the playoffs to warrant a suspension. So they decided not to upgrade it. And look, I don't want him suspended from any of these games. I'm glad he's playing tonight. I want to see the best out there in these championship games. But I can't believe that in any other circumstance, if it wasn't going to put him at risk of being suspended, that that wouldn't have been ruled a flagrant foul. Now, I thought about something as it relates to Wembe. I was reading something last night.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I think it was actually a comment in a comment section on a story that I was reading about the NBA finals. And somebody said and wrote, Wembe needs a center on his team. and I thought for a moment, well, he is a center. What do you mean he needs a center? But I think it was an interesting comment because I've said a couple of times, they need another big on that team and they'll probably go get another big player on the team
Starting point is 00:24:51 because they legitimately can't go big. He's basically playing most of the time with four guards out there. But what I thought about was this. Wembe and maybe even the Spurs, they view him, he views him, he views himself as not a center. He views himself as a forward, a three or a four.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And it's the way he plays. He doesn't play with his back to the basket a lot. He doesn't play on the low post a lot. He likes being out on the perimeter. He likes taking guys off the dribble. He likes playing like Kevin Durant plays. And so maybe that's what he wants to be. you know, as a player. He doesn't want to be a dominant low post force.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Look, he's dominant at the rim on lobs for sure. But I thought that was interesting because I've been thinking about they need a four, they need a power forward, they need a 6-9, 610, you know, big time physical enforcer, somebody that can take the pressure off Wembe a little bit. But maybe they actually need a true center. There aren't many of them in free agency. Hartinstein's available. Mitchell Robinson's available, but not many.
Starting point is 00:26:09 But maybe what he really needs is a Rudy Gobert type playing next to him. Now, he should still be the center defensively. He should still be the rim-protecting center defensively. But there's no doubt that that's not his preference in terms of the way he plays offensive basketball. All right, tonight, look, the keys are this. The Knicks cannot play the way. they played the other night. If that ball sticks with Brunson, if you've got, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:39 multiple possessions of one player touching the basketball, they're going to lose. You're not going to win against a great defensive team where you let four guys basically guard players who aren't involved. I think they've got to handle. I think, first of all, I would not have Brunson bring the ball up court. I'd have whoever Wemby's guarding bring the ball up court and initiate the offense. And if I want to get Brunson the ball quickly, I get him the ball off a flare screen. I get him off, I get him the ball off a pin down, off a down screen. And he catches it with the defense already, you know, active because you've had more than one player, you've got a screen being set for him. And he's touching it 20 to 23 feet from the basket, you know, but I want to see the
Starting point is 00:27:26 ball move. I don't want to see it dominated by one player. If it is, again, tonight, he'd have to have one of the all-time great performances against a great defensive team. He's capable of it. He's capable of shot making and playmaking his way as an ISO player to a win, but I don't think you can win four playing
Starting point is 00:27:46 that way, and they didn't play that way in their first two. So they've already got two, but I think you've got to change that 100%. And then I think for the Knicks defensively, sometimes guarding the big guy, it starts with guarding the perimeter.
Starting point is 00:28:02 guarding the passer to the big guy is as important as guarding the big guy. You can really affect the ability for Wembenyama to catch lobs, to catch the ball closer to the basket, which happened in game three, by really defending the perimeter. The problem is that Castle and Harper and Company, they can really go by you and they can physically go by you, muscle by you, and then muscle you at the rim. Yeah, I mean, these games have been so different, but they've been so winnable by both teams, you know, in all three of them.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I don't know what we're going to get tonight. I don't. I actually think that the Knicks are going to bounce back with a much better game. I can't imagine that Brunson doesn't have at least one excellent shooting game in this series. That has to be coming, although, again, San Antonio is so good defensively. if you forced me to play this game, I'd play it the Knicks, Leng, the two, two and a half. But I don't think I'm going to play it. The only plays I've made in this series, I lost both of them. I played the over, and I played San Antonio in game two. That's it.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Looking forward, though, to tonight's game. All right, up next, Samu Qureshi, who has the largest collection of Skins memorabilia. There's actually a documentary coming out on him. He'll join me next. Hey guys, it's great to have Chime back on the show as an advertiser this week. They've been periodically advertising for a few years, giving me an opportunity to tell you that Chime is changing the way people bank. And my younger self would have definitely benefited from using Chime. Chime is changing the way people bank by offering the most rewarding fee-free banking. Why pay fees on withdrawing your own money from an ATM? Well, with Chime,
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Starting point is 00:32:29 been through it. It is incredibly impressive. And there is a movie on Samu and what he's been able to do with this collection and what he's trying to do with this collection that will debut Friday night at the Regal Cinema at Gallery Place. Now, it is sold out already. This show is sold out on Friday night at 815, but there will be future shows that you will have an opportunity to go view. But Samu's joining us right now. So look, you know how familiar I am with what you've collected over the years and how impressive it's been and what a big fan and lifelong fan of the team you are. How did this come about? How did the film come about where somebody said, we should make a movie about this?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Well, thanks, Kevin. I appreciate you having me. it basically came about because I had sold my house and then I reset up the museum in a 5,000 square foot space in Rockville. And basically the owner of the building, when she took a look at the museum, she said, oh my God, Sammy, we got to do a documentary. Well, two days later, she happened to meet this amazing, amazing documentarian and filmmaker, Calla Malik. And next thing, you know, they had convinced me to do this documentary. And I had set up a the museum with the intention of hopefully getting to the team and having them purchase it so that they could create a Washington Football Hall of Fame and a museum
Starting point is 00:34:07 as Mitch Rails had talked about in a podcast that he wanted that to be his legacy. And I just was very passionate about that whole idea because that's what I've wanted to do my whole life. I've had a museum. I've had 25 players come through it. I've had a thousand people see it. I wanted it to be open to the public, and I wanted the team to, you know, take over the legacy. So they decided to do a documentary, and boom, it's pretty cool with the 26-minute documentary. A 26-minute documentary takes longer than 26 minutes to walk through that museum because I was there.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yeah. Yeah, I think we were, I think it was two and a half hours, and, you know, you had to cut it short. But it was great touring with you, Kevin, because, you know, you were. you know the history of the team like I do, and you were just pointing to pieces going like, hey, oh, that's from the Cardinals game in 1973. Yeah, well, we both have the ability to do that. But so what will people see? Tell me about the documentary.
Starting point is 00:35:13 What's your favorite, you know, part of it? What's the part that you wish were included that is not? Well, to be honest, I would say there's visits from the foremost recent. players who visited the museum, former players, and two of them are age 89 and 90. Who were the players? So Carl Camer is age 90. He's in incredible condition mentally and physically, and he's actually coming to the premiere. And as is Leroy Butler, who was actually the very first black player to play for the
Starting point is 00:35:56 team. People are going to scream and say, no, it was Bobby Mitchell, but no, it was Leroy Butler. They were both on the team that first day in Dallas in 1962, but Lurie Butler played on the kickoff teams, and so he was the first guy out there on the field. Wow. And he's 89, and he's in the film, and he's coming to the film, too. The old guys are coming out. By the way, that's an interesting fact that I did not know. I mean, because of course, I would have said, if you said who's the first black player to play for the franchise,
Starting point is 00:36:32 I'd say, well, of course, it's Bobby Mitchell. He integrated the team. And everybody would say that. Yeah. But it's not true. Yeah, well, but they were both. But Bobby Mitchell, so the kickoff team, it was the kickoff coverage team, not the return team that he was on. Correct. Okay. Correct.
Starting point is 00:36:49 He was on the return team as well. He was the fastest guy on the team. and you know but he was on it because he was the fastest guy they wanted him as like a safety you know on the on the coverage in case anybody broke away right um but um so that kind of a complicated and so that was that was the 62 opener at Dallas right correct yeah um by the way i'm looking at the the box score of that from that game that game ended in a 35 do you know do you know what the final score of the game was? Yeah, it was a 35-35 tie.
Starting point is 00:37:28 35-35 tie. Bobby Mitchell had six catches for 135 yards and two touchdowns, including an 81-yarder from Norm Sneed in the fourth quarter that cut the Cowboys lead from 35-21 to 35 to 28. We should have never traded Norm. We were two years away from Norm. and Sunny getting dealt in that big trade and one that obviously worked out much better for us. What else will people see that you're going to be excited for them to see? Well, you know, I wish there was more of the museum itself.
Starting point is 00:38:10 It kind of got into a little bit too much about me and maybe my emotions with parting with the stuff. But, you know, seeing the museum on the big screen is pretty cool. And, you know, there's just so many amazing, when I set up the museum again, as you know, I set it up in exhibits to show, like, you know, to discuss the name controversy, to discuss the history of racism with the team. And like in that one, I mean, it's called racism and integration. You see original newspapers from 1962. And we went from having won one game in two years to just exploding and winning, you know, five games that year in 62 being five and seven. and Bobby Mitchell just lit it up.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I mean, he's on the headline and photograph of him on virtually every next day newspaper of their games. And so, you know, Leroy Butler visiting and seeing that and his friend Rob, I mean, they, you know, they had, you know, that was really special. You know, Brad Edwards and Chris Samuel also visit, and they're great as well. Let's just absolutely love those guys. and you know it's just it's a really well-done film i mean it's it's i'd say every we we saw a preview with my family and a couple friends and uh you know people were pretty blown away by how well-done it was it was really uh you know it was kind of a surprise to me because they filmed so many hours and we were like wow they could have done a easily done a 90-minute documentary or a two-hour
Starting point is 00:39:43 documentary on it but uh it's uh it's short and it's sweet and uh yeah no it was it was it was it was a special. It was cool. There's a lot of different scenes. I mean, I don't want to sit here and reel off every scene, but there was a lot of cool scenes in it. We did a lot of filming the course of last year. After people watch it,
Starting point is 00:40:05 those that are lucky enough to be able to watch it on Friday night, how will people that won't be able to be there on Friday night get to see it? Well, we've applied to a lot of cities film festivals. So, DC was the first one.
Starting point is 00:40:22 that we've gotten into. But because it did so well, and there's a lot of people I know who wanted to buy tickets and without even spreading the word, you know, we're definitely planning on getting it into some more theaters probably come fall around the start of the season. So it'll definitely be, it'll be out there. What's the state of the museum right now? Where are you with it? as much as you can tell
Starting point is 00:40:51 it. Tell everybody. Unfortunately, my rents got raised a lot, and so I had to get out of the museum, and I had to put it back all into storage. So it's in storage now. And honestly, I'm at a stage
Starting point is 00:41:07 where, you know, look, it's been, again, my lifetime dream to have it be a real museum, and the, really the only people who could do that, aside for maybe Matthew McConaughey, would be the team. And so I really, you know, I'm hoping that they will, you know, they're, you know, they're just
Starting point is 00:41:29 busy with operating the team and, you know, and I think they've got it just a great ownership and everything. But, you know, right now I think they're not really, you know, it might not be a priority for them at this moment to, you know, start planning for a museum that they maybe would not put into, if they even do it. I mean, it's not like they've said they're going to do it. it, but, you know, it was Mitch Rails' dreams, so I hope they would do it. And I just think it, they, you know, again, I think it's so important to honor these guys. You know, it's not
Starting point is 00:42:01 just for the fans. I mean, it would be amazing for the fans, but also to honor all the great players who, you know, who gave their lives to this team to make it, you know, to make the history what it was. And we have, you know, a really incredible history. I mean, there's, there's definitely the good, the bad, and the ugly, but there were glory years, and there were several periods of glory years. And, you know, I would like, you know, it's getting to the point where the guys from, you know, there's hardly anybody left from the 60s. I mean, I got to have visit with Sammy Baugh and, you know, years ago. And, you know, everybody from the 30s, 40s and 50s has gone virtually. I mean, you know, Sunny's still around. I guess he was, you know, with
Starting point is 00:42:43 the Eagles vent. But, uh, but there's a few guys. But, you know, it's getting to the point. just lost Monty Coleman, who's one of the, one of my absolute favorite guys, probably my most revered player in terms of what a great human being he was, and just a hilarious guy. And, you know, breaks my heart. You know, he lost his life in his 60s after about cancer. Yeah. So I just want these guys to, you know, to honor the team. Well, hopefully, hopefully, you know, down the road when we near the opening, um,
Starting point is 00:43:18 of the new stadium, maybe at that point something can happen with it, and the team will be more interested in doing something with it. I think I've asked you this before, and I think you've been on with me before and maybe answered it, but I forget the answers, so I'm going to ask them again. Do you have, A, a favorite item in the museum, and then B, what do you think the most valuable item in your museum is? Favorite item in my museum is about the hardest question.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I get out that all the time, and it's really hard because I have about 20 of them. But I'd say my most valuable one is probably the 1937 team signed ball, which is an immaculate condition. And I've never known of another 1937 team signed ball. And I guarantee there is not one out there anywhere close to this condition. It looked like it was signed yesterday because it was preserved in a kid's wooden chest after it was given to them Christmas of 1937. And, you know, every player signed their university as well because, you know, of course, college football was so much more popular at that time than pro football. So they had to identify with their schools. And it's just a, it's a beautiful piece.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I mean, favorite pieces. And, I mean, you know, I mean, I've got Lombardy's cleats and Gibbs' headset. But I think probably some of my favorite pieces are some of the letters that I have. historic letters that were like correspondence between George Preston Marshall and Corinne Griffith who I you know I think I identify in the film as being like the most important woman in the history of the NFL because she not only convinced George to move the team to Washington she wrote the amazing song she created the half-time show which basically evolved into the Super Bowl show I mean nobody had these half-time shows I mean nobody had these
Starting point is 00:45:18 half-time shows back then. And she also wrote the first book ever on the team. And it sold better than any book for, I'm sure, at least another 30 years or 25 years. All right. I'm going to
Starting point is 00:45:34 end with this. I'm curious if you've thought about this, because I've thought about it. You know, we've had the string of retired jerseys, you know, over the last few years. Finally got Sonny's
Starting point is 00:45:48 Jersey retired, Daryl's jersey retired, Bobby Mitchell's Arts jersey last year was retired, Sean Taylor's jersey was retired. Another one will be coming this upcoming season and there will be some sort of, you know, a day
Starting point is 00:46:04 for that to happen, probably in November or December, I'm guessing. Do you have an opinion on who the next player should be in terms of a retired jersey? I think, And, you know, and I've honestly just, it's been a little bit hard to follow because they had kind of unofficially retired jersey.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Yeah. You want me to give you right now. So obviously Sammy Baws, as you know, was the only retired, officially retired jersey. We had, you know, we had those that were not, you know, were untouchable for many years. But I created a list, you know, several years ago of what I thought were seven jerseys that have to be retired. that there's no debate on these players. Sunny, Daryl Green, Sammy Baugh, Bobby Mitchell, Art Monk, and those have been done. And the two that haven't been done for me are 42 Charlie Taylor and 44 John Riggins.
Starting point is 00:47:06 So those would be for me. Those were exactly the two that I was going to say that absolutely, you know, and I think not only should their jerseys be retired, but when they build a new stadium, they should build giant beautiful statues of all of those guys. Yeah. You know, no little wire mannequin of Sean Taylor, please. Yeah, well. That's the previous regime.
Starting point is 00:47:29 That's the previous regime, yeah. The previous regime. So you would say Taylor or Wiggins, you'd be happy with either one. Yeah, absolutely. Look, I think Charlie Taylor, you know, if he played today, would be, you know, I would just put up astronomical numbers and would be, you know, I think he's one of the couple greatest receivers of all time in the, uh, and no disrespect to art monk, but he's the greatest Redskins receiver, Art Monk, you know, had the consistency and, and he was great, and I worship
Starting point is 00:48:00 art monk, but Charlie Taylor was just an unstoppable force who was, you know, just incredibly fast and, you know, just could just knock people over and he was big and, uh, You know, he just did it all. Yeah. And he scored touchdowns. Yeah, that's, we've had, you know, the, those two really are separate from the rest of the group that you would, you know, start to contemplate for the next group, you know, which would probably include Gary Clark and Santana Moss. And, of course, you know, Terry's moving up the list right now as well. But, yeah, those two have definitely separated themselves franchise-wise.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And I think I'd agree with you, too. Charlie Taylor, in terms of the player that he was, the threat that he was on the field, he was just a different type of receiver. He was a true home run threat more so than Art was. All right, well, good luck with this on Friday night. I'm happy for you. I can't wait to see it. Hopefully I'll have a chance to see it soon, but keep me posted on everything.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah. You know, hey, if I could just mention one more thing. Sure. You know, like about the museum, just like, again, I feel like honoring the players and so forth. But, you know, they do all these tributes to the military at every NFL event, certainly at every Washington football event and so forth. And that's great. But, you know, I wish they would honor the players who played for the team who sacrificed their
Starting point is 00:49:34 lives who volunteered for World War II and sacrificed their lives. And, you know, I have an exhibit in my museum that was, you know, about players who lost their lives early. But, you know, the guys who, and there's also a military exhibit. And, you know, Eddie Khan is a guy who is actually from D.C. He's in the Jewish, Washington Jewish Hall of Fame. He was a little five-foot-eight or so defensive linemen that played for the Boston Redskins for the last two years with Washington. And he was like the heart of the defense that had that goal line stand. in the first game against the Giants.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And, you know, it's just like guys like that who volunteered and, you know, were killed in action or wounded and died soon thereafter as his case. And Keith Burlam was another guy. You know, I just think, like, you know, how about we honor those guys? Those guys were pretty major heroes. Sure. Thanks, Samu. Appreciate it, as always.
Starting point is 00:50:32 All right, Kevin. Great talking to take care. Steve Solomon will join me next to tell us about his run for a campaign. county council seat in Montgomery County, after these words from a few of our sponsors. All right now is a longtime friend, Steve Solomon. Sully is on the show with me today because Sali is once again running for a Montgomery County council seat and at large seat. And we're going to talk about that in a moment, but most of you remember Sallie.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Sallie was Zabe and Andy's producer for years, produced a lot of shows at 980 for a long period of time. He's got his own podcast called The Steve Solomon Show. He's got a podcast with our good friend Scott Lynn. He produces and is a part of Doc's podcast as well. He appears on Zab's podcast a lot with the old gang from, you know, the four to seven shows on our station from back in the day. and and Sali is just one of the best. One of my all-time favorite people that I got to work with. Steady Eddie Sali, he really was.
Starting point is 00:51:50 And we basically sat across from each other for a decade. My office right next to Salli's desk in the bullpen right there. And I miss those days. And I know all of us do because it was, It was a lot of fun, but I'm glad you're doing this again. So tell everybody the seat that you're running for, how many times you've done it, the position you're in, when they can vote, when they can early vote, mail in, et cetera. Right. All right, well, you said it all, man.
Starting point is 00:52:26 It's great to be back with you. I miss you. I miss sitting next to you and just shooting the breeze. That was the best times of our lives. but 23 years ago, I think, we still had something like that when you first started. I, you know what? It's morning updates. Yeah, morning updates 2004.
Starting point is 00:52:45 22 years ago. Yeah, 22 years. Jesus, God. And then we went through it all, and you became the big shot that you are. Hardly. And I've tried to wedge my way in. And like you, I'm a podcaster by day after the end happened to me at 980, and you're still there. God love you. God love you.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Yeah. God love you. Hanging on. Yeah, me and Doc and Scott and Dave and Galdi were all trying to make it in this podcast world, and I've been doing that for a few years since I left 980, and it's been going okay. But, yes, I'm running for office. Montgomery County Council at large, so any of your listeners in Montgomery County, Maryland, your original home, I know you've moved out, but you were a county resident for decades,
Starting point is 00:53:33 and you're Moco born and bred just like me. Are you still doing the Moco show? Are you still doing that Moco show or not? No, I only did that. I did that for a couple of years. Okay. And unfortunately, that has really taken off without me. So, yeah, we did a podcast for a couple of years.
Starting point is 00:53:52 It was a lot of fun. Me and Alex, the guy who did the Moco show. But he just is doing the website and social media. He's killing it now with that. Oh, good. But yeah, that was a lot of fun to do. I wish I was still doing that. And hey, if he's listening, I'd be glad to do it again.
Starting point is 00:54:09 But, but yeah, I ran for county council in 2018 without knowing anything, without doing anything and being involved. I ran again in 2022 for my district. And now I'm running for county council at large again. And I tried to really run a serious campaign this time. I started a lot earlier. I raised a lot of money. I got a lot of people supporting me, which is all the stuff you have to do to actually win in this business.
Starting point is 00:54:36 So I'm giving it another go, Kevin, for county council at large. And for anyone in Montgomery County, the primary is going on now. Mail in, but voting happens. If you have a ballot, send it in. Look for my name. There's 17 people running the top four get elected to county council at large. So vote for Steve Sullivan. I'm 13th on that list of 17 if you have a paper.
Starting point is 00:55:01 ballot. Early voting starts Thursday, June 11th, and runs for one week through Thursday, June 18th at 14 places around the county. Just look for your early voting center. And then election day is Tuesday, June 23rd. And we'll find out then if this year-long effort of campaigning has worked out. We'll see how it goes. But I'm trying and, you know, happy to, I don't want to four people too much with policy and politics stuff, but I'm trying to... Steve is very much a moderate. You've always been moderate and borderline, you know, centrist and a lot of your, and a lot of the conversations we've had over the years, you'd be a tremendous addition. By the way, just real quickly, because I'm sure people ask this all the time,
Starting point is 00:55:54 what does a county council member do? Well, that's a Good question. So in Montgomery County, we have a county executive, and we have 11 people on the county council. And the county council is the legislative body of the county. They pass laws. They approve budgets. They do zoning and land use. They oversee all the agencies. They approve agency directors and things like that. The 11 members, there's four at large that cover the whole county, and there's seven specials. specific districts. I'm in district six. I ran for that seat four years ago and lost, so I'm not running against the incumbent. She's actually supporting me, which is great, and a lot of current council members and former council members are supporting me. I've gotten pretty heavily involved in county government and stuff the last eight years or so since I started running. I'm on specific
Starting point is 00:56:53 boards, committees. I've done volunteer work. I now serve on the board of the sports hall of fame, our sports advisory committee, the library board, all those things. So I've tried to get involved with that. And hopefully the next step is on the county council. And, you know, I'm running because, you know, you've grown up here and lived here. This used to be a county where the schools were the most desired in the country. Our businesses were doing great. We've lost a lot of that. Business is leaving the county. They're not coming. in due to a variety of reasons. Schools have declined, not only in the facilities themselves, but in academic standards as well. And I really believe we need to do better, bring in more business,
Starting point is 00:57:42 make it easier for all the businesses here. We have tons of permitting and inspection laws that are arcane and take too long. We are not competing with jurisdictions that have grown. You just look at Tyson's or Howard County or even D.C. We're not keeping up. And I think that's the main problem in our county. We're quite wealthy. We're the 13th wealthiest county out of 5,000 counties, but we're still, our past, our last budget had to cut in a lot of departments. If you saw the news, MCPS, the school budget had to be cut. Numerous people had to be let go. And that's not what I want to see, and that's why I'm running. So we can grow our economy, build the tax base, bring in more business, make it easier for businesses here. And hopefully that message has gotten to a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:58:28 and we're trying. So that's the main thrust of the campaign. That's a lot to do. And yes, this county has, I consider it home, even though I don't live there anymore. The schools in particular, and anybody that grew up in the Montgomery County school system, and Sully did, and I did, I mean, people would move to the county to be able to get access to the schools. All right. Well, best of luck.
Starting point is 00:58:56 again, the early voting starts tomorrow, June 11th, runs for a week, and then the actual vote in person is June 23rd. But Sally's one of 17 on the ballot. He's number 13 on the ballot. Vote Steve Solomon. And let's get him on that county council in Montgomery County for all of you that live in the county. Best of luck, man. Appreciate it. Thanks, buddy.
Starting point is 00:59:24 It's great to hear from you. I love you, buddy. Love you too, Sally. All right, that'll do it for the day back tomorrow with Tommy.

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