The Kevin Sheehan Show - Dan Quinn & Josh Harris Talk

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

Kevin and Thom today with a variety of menu options. They talked Caps, Caitlin Clark, Kim Mulkey, and the Baltimore bridge tragedy to open the show. They recapped Dan Quinn and Josh Harris' comments today down at the NFL league meetings in Orlando. They also shared their thoughts on the NFL approving the new "kickoff rule", NFL Christmas Day games in 2024 on a Wednesday, Shohei Ohtani's statement on his interpreter's gambling losses, and more.  Download the PrizePicks app today and use code Sheehan for a first deposit match up to $100! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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I was wondering if you guys will be moving your show to YouTube anytime soon. While I listen mostly in the car, it would still be cool to see both of you while listening to the show. Zach, good question. I have looked at it a few times. There is a possibility that we will do something on YouTube. at some point in the near future. I'll just be totally up front with you.

There is some cannibalization of revenue when you go on YouTube. Right now, YouTube doesn't have the same revenue opportunity that the audio-only format has. I was surprised at that, too. I've talked to probably no less than a half-dozen people about all of this, including people who have podcasts and also are on YouTube. YouTube, but things are changing. So we will continue to look at it. I think that would be fun for people to be able to see.

We wouldn't be in the same studio. Tom would be in his studio in his home. I'd be in my studio here in my studio. But I think people would love to watch us do the show, unless, of course, you don't want to do it. Well, would that mean I have to wear clothes? You'd have to wear some clothes. Yes. Okay.

Are you telling me that you're not clothed at all right now? Whoa, it's my house. You know? What do I need clothes for? Well, I mean, before we started to record, I heard your wife ask you, ask you if you had done something, and you said, I'm getting ready to do the podcast. I would hope, for her sake, that you weren't sitting there nude in front of her. I hope you had some clothes on.

You make a lot of assumptions. For her sake. Yes, it's something that we have looked into. It's just, it's odd. And I was surprised when I got a consistent answer back. It is a great marketing tool YouTube is because it's one of the biggest search engines. There is YouTube. But at the same time, the audience size doesn't generate the same level.

of revenue that audio only does. I've been given multiple reasons for that, but I won't get into the boring details. This from Quinn, Kevin, do the caps ever even enter your mind as a sports topic? You guys talk about every team except the Capitals. You're a DC sports podcast. It won't change my listening habits for the show

because I love you and I love the chemistry that you have with Tom and the chemistry you have with Cooley. But I'd like to hear more about the caps on the show. Don't know if you know this, but they're on the verge of making the playoffs. Quinn, we, actually, I shouldn't say we've talked a lot about the Caps because we certainly haven't talked a lot about the Caps. But I know I have mentioned them a couple of times.

I led the radio show with the Caps yesterday, and I'll probably lead the radio show tomorrow with the Caps. You know why, Tommy? They have a huge game tonight. Tonight with Detroit. I think this is the deciding game, right? No, it's not the deciding game. They've got 12 games left. No, I mean, it's going to be awfully hard for them to make the playoffs if they don't win tonight, as I understand. That's not true either, but it's okay. They are one point ahead of Detroit. for the last wild card spot. They played Detroit two more times.

They are one point ahead. They also have one game in hand. So even if we were down to the final two games, with the Caps having two games and the Red Wings having won, if Detroit won tonight, the Caps could still pass them by winning tomorrow night. That's one game in hand means they've played one less than Detroit. They are also just two points.

behind the flyers for third place in the Metropolitan Division, and they could tie Philly tonight with a win, because Phillies playing New York, and the Rangers have an NHL points best at 98. So they could find themselves into the postseason in two different ways, owning the final wild card spot by three points over the Red Wings with a win, and also tied with the Flyers for the third spot. So, yeah, no, they've been, I have been following this.

Ovechkin, eight goals in his last five games. He's got 18 goals in his last 23 games. 17 of his 26 have come after the All-Star break. I got a lot of shit for you. You want more? No, no, I want to know. What's the name of this guy again? The guy that sent the email.

His name is Quinn. Quinn. I got to tell you, this team making the NHL playoffs is not an accomplishment worth celebrating. Because more than half the teams in the NHL make the playoffs. Yes. Right. Yes. That is true, right?

Is it more than half? Stop it. How many teams are in the NHLF? It just acknowledges their existence. How's that? I'm just trying to see how many teams. Yeah, there are, oh, there are 32 teams now. in the NHL? 32, I guess Seattle became the 32nd team.

It looks like that's, there are eight in each division and there are four divisions that would make 32 teams. This is why we don't talk hockey. This is a good reason why we don't. But I recall that it wasn't that long ago that they had just 30 teams because Seattle was just added two years ago, right? Two or three years ago. So maybe they had 31 teams. The Cracken. Yeah. Yeah. Um, no, actually, it's funny because I don't, I just don't have a lot of passion for the Caps. I've mentioned that many times before. But there has been, um, for me, it's been on the radar screen this run because I really like Alex Ovechkin. And I really want him to be back in the postseason and playing in a best of seven. It's also for us, I mean, anybody in town that does

what we do, they'll tell you the same thing I've said to you before. Doing hockey in these talk show formats is pretty hard in a town like Washington between like the months of, you know, in any month outside of April and May when they're actually playing playoff games, it's just not the audience potential that you have for talking about the football team, no matter how bad the football team's been, or even some other sports. I mean, Ted Leonis hates to hear this, but it is somewhat niche. Now, when they're good and they're playing games in April and May and the NFL draft is over, we've done a lot on the hockey when they've been good and they've been in the postseason, usually exiting after the first round, with the exception

of that one year. But I'd actually like to see Ovechkin in the postseason. I think the NHL would love to see the caps in a playoff series with Ovechkin as well. And he's, you know, it looked like two months ago that Gretzky record might be safe. Now with what he's doing, you know, look for late 2025 or probably sometime early in 2026 where he, you know, at this pace, would pass Gretzky on the all-time goals scored list. I'm sure the NHL would love to have him in the postseason because it's only going to be so many post-season left where Al-Sovetsky can play.

Right. And, you know, the hockey postseason is pretty long because, well, half the teams make the playoffs, 16 to the 32. The playoffs are pretty long, so to have him in a. a series or two, which sometimes can take, you know, a month to play two series. Two best of sevens can take nearly a month. They'd love to have that. I know that there are some really good young stars in the game. Pittsburgh and Crosby won't be in the postseason. They stink. They're not very good at all. But go caps tonight against the Red Wings. Sure. There you go, Quinn. Hockey talk for the day.

You asked for it, buddy. How awful was that bridge collapse in Baltimore? I was up at 5 this morning, briefly, and that's when I first saw the video. And I just couldn't believe what I was seeing. I mean, it was like somebody knocked over an erector set. Yeah. It was just stunning. It made me feel like how small we all are.

and how vulnerable we all are at any given moment. There's something like that can happen. Where a series of circumstances can lead to something so drastic. The video is unbelievable. I mean, I was also up really early and looked at my phone and saw, you know, Baltimore and Baltimore Bridge, Francis got Key Bridge trending. and then I immediately turned on the TV as well and turned it on CNN and was watching this thing.

And it was, I mean, the video that they have from it is amazing. It just, like you said, an director said is a really good description. It was like somebody, some kid had just built this, you know, in the playroom. And then walked in and just decided to, you know, bump a little, you know, a little Mattel car up against it and the whole thing came down. I still can't figure out the count on the count on the dead or the missing because right now the latest as of the recording of this podcast is that there's an ongoing search for six who are missing two survived although one's in critical condition but there was also a part of this where they said the six that are missing are six construction work. who were not in vehicles but were on the bridge. I don't know why they, well, construction often goes on overnight or some sort of project was being done.

But yet they also said that there were some cars on the bridge. So unless the cars were empty, which I can't imagine they were if they were moving. You could see the video, if you watched a video before the collapse, you see cars going across the bridge. You, you see, watch the lights, your headlights going back and forth, back and forth. That's, that's on the, you're, you've got to be wondering about the guys who just, the people who just made it over. What must they be thinking today? Well, they stopped traffic from going over the bridge. The, the cargo ship put out a May Day because they clearly lost control the ship with the, um, with whatever happened with the power outage, because you could see the lights on the ship flickering on and off.

And I've watched this video a bunch of times. There are cars and car headlights on the bridge, but it doesn't appear when the bridge falls that the cars are moving. We'll get all the details on this. The cars are definitely moving as the cargo ship is further out in approaching the bridge. but as it approaches the bridge based on what I've read, a Mayday went out,

they stopped the traffic from going over the bridge, but there were people working on some sort of construction project, I believe it was, and it was those six people that are missing and presumed dead at this point,

but there wasn't anything about anybody in vehicles that ended up in the water. There could have been vehicles on the bridge, and they could have been empty, Maybe, you know, they were told to get out and run back off the bridge or something. I don't know.

The whole thing is so sad. The only saving grace, well, too, is the Mayday that was put out by the cargo ship, you know, basically stopping additional cars from getting onto the bridge. And the fact that this wasn't like during rush hour. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, there's going to be a lot of investment.

A lot of questions that need to be answered. But the way that bridge collapsed didn't seem like even if a soft hit by a ship that's obviously not going full speed at this point, no matter how big and powerful the ship is, and I know they've become bigger and heavier and more and heavier and more powerful over the years. it doesn't seem like it should lead to the collapse of an entire bridge. Apparently, again, this will learn a lot more. But this bridge was built in 1977, so you're talking about 47 years ago. And the codes now for bridges that have been built, you know, I don't know since when, but let's just say, you know, more recently than 1977,

that it may not have resulted in that catastrophic collapse with the way bridges are built today. But, yeah, it was, I mean... And the implications are just staggering. The Baltimore Harbor shut down for the foreseeable future. Yeah. Well, there are a lot of... I mean, you know, people are going to... Shippers are going to have to go down the next.

Norfolk or Philly or New York, who would normally bring in goods and materials here. Right. No, that's true. They said that the number of ships that are just stranded in that area of Baltimore on that river, that that it's going to delay and it's going to cause, you know, I mean, we already have supply chain issues, but it's going to cause some, you know, economic impact. God, man, a bridge collapsing. You know, there was that one in Minneapolis a few years ago. I remember that one. There was one in Pittsburgh, I think, recently, you know, in the last couple of years.

You know, there are plenty of people that have phobias of bridge, you know, going over a bridge. In fact, you know, I believe this is true, still true to this day. I could be wrong. But I think if you are driving over the base, bridge as an example and you have a phobia of driving over the bridge, you can stop and someone will drive you over. They have drivers that will drive you over. I don't know if it's for a fee. I think that still goes on. Yeah. Have you ever been concerned about driving over a bridge? No, I actually like bridges. I do do, too. I think they're cool to be on bridges and to look over. I'm not a big

fan of heights, but I don't, for whatever reason, don't feel anxious at all. Now, are you clothed when you drive over a bridge typically? Am I what? Cloth? Yes, I am. Okay. Yeah. Because I don't, if, in case it collapses, I don't want to be naked. Imagine, imagine people with bridge phobias of bridges on a day like today when this happens. I know. I know. They say, see, see, I've got reason to be scared. And at that, today, I guess they do. They do. Really, really sad. And, you know, when you have these kinds of tragedies, the fact that Baltimore is so close doesn't make it any less, any more tragic. But for us, you know, it's not a bridge that I'm super familiar with. I know where the bridge is. But, you know, when we're driving to Baltimore on 95, we don't go over.

that bridge, whether we're going into Baltimore or just staying on 95 and going through the tunnel or one of the two tunnels on the way to, you know, Philly or New Jersey or New York. That's not a bridge you go over, but I think I read 35,000 cars a day, vehicles a day over that bridge. You know, I can remember, I mean, the bridge was built because of all the backups at the Harbor tunnel, which was the only tunnel or bridge to take you over to the other side of the harbor. Right. So they built that bridge in 77 in response to the traffic backups at the harbor tunnel.

And I can remember in the early days when we lived in Colombia and we were heading north to Philly, I would take that bridge as a way to get to, you know, ultimately get around the beltway to get to 95. And then they opened the Fort McCenery Tunnel, I think, in 1985. Mm-hmm. And that's been my

route ever since. I've barely ever been on the keep Francis got keep rid since then. Right. Do you ever take 8.95 rather than staying on 95? Yeah, that's the Harbor Tunnel.

Did you ever... No, I don't. I used to sometimes. I'm familiar with it, but I always find a Fort McHenry Tunnel always works better for me. Sometimes Ways will send you in that direction based on traffic, so that's the only time I go in that direction. But anyway, say again. You know, they're talking about rebuilding it. Not building it doesn't seem to be an option.

and a reporter I know told me that up in Cape Cod, the Sagamore Bridge was replaced a few years ago, and it cost over $2 billion, and it was only 1,400 feet long. This key bridge, 8,600 feet long. How tall is the bridge? How many feet in the air is it? It has a clearance of 185 feet. 185 feet. Is that what you just said? I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about the length of the bridge. How long? How long?

8600 feet, 8600 feet long with a clearance of 1805 feet. Wow. Well, I mean, people are talking about the temperature of the water. Would you even survive the fall from 185 feet? Yeah. I don't know. Okay. So there's a lot going on in sports. Let me start with a couple of things. Number one, I actually watched a lot of the Iowa, West Virginia second round game last night in the women's tournament. I'm assuming you did not. No, I did not. Tommy, that was a really intense basketball game. First of all, like, the West Virginia women's team plays like Bob Huggins' West Virginia men's team did for all those years. I mean, they are nasty and they're physical and they're chippy.

And the game was really, I thought, intense and fun to watch, not to mention that it was close. You know, and you, this is Caitlin Clark playing in the final game at Carver Hawkeye Arena. for those that don't get it, the first two rounds are played at the number one and number two seeds home courts. So the sub-regionals of each of the regions, they're actually played, you know, in the higher-seated teams arena. So Iowa played their first two games in this tournament at home, which meant last night was her final game at home,

and they had to win to get to the Sweet 16. And the game was tied, 52, 52, with 250. left in the fourth quarter. And, you know, this tournament badly needs Caitlin Clark and Iowa to keep advancing. I mean, I'm sure the LSU story, which is an interesting one and got interesting the other day with Kim Mulkey, has that story come out in the post yet? I can't wait to read it now after her diatribe the other day. But they desperately need Caitlin Clark to advance.

And with 2.15 left in the game, it's a doubt. tie score. And it's an intense game. I mean, and so they ended up pulling away late, and I'm telling you, she got every call, every call. The free throw disparity, 30 free throws attempted for Iowa, five for West Virginia. The foul difference was 27 fouls for West Virginia, 11 for Iowa. I mean, I actually, I'm sitting there and I'm watching the game with my wife, who's, you know, for whatever reason, couldn't care less about sports, but is watching Caitlin Clark every time we've had her on.

And I'm saying, they get every call. Like, this is so obvious. Like, the West Virginia girls are getting mugged on one end, no call. Caitlin Clark gets barely brushed and she's going to the free. throw line where she's deadly from the free throw line. So that was pretty obvious. And I went to Twitter and people were, you know, it was trending. Like, and when I saw that it was trending, one of my thoughts was, this is great that

there's this kind of controversy, you know, over Caitlin Clark getting all these calls and them trying to push Iowa through. That means people are actually paying attention because that's what you get with Duke every year. You know, you've gotten that every single year for years. You know, the Duke whistle. They get the friendly whistle. They outscored West Virginia by 10 over the final two minutes and one by 10 to advance to the Sweet 16.

But look, it's a completely different game than the men's game. Anybody that understands basketball and isn't just in it to try to, you know, be performative about, you know, oh, they could beat, you know, such and such in the Patriot League. No, they couldn't. They couldn't beat DeMath's JV team, okay? That's true. But the games and the skill level is high. It's a completely different game.

But last night when you get a game with that intensity and with that chippiness, I was entertained. I was so entertained. And then to watch them basically give Iowa every whistle and give Caitlin Clark every whistle, it was really, I thought it was a really entertaining watch. And now this, they have a sweet 16 game on Saturday. If they win that and LSU wins their sweet 16 game, a week, on Monday night, it'll be LSU and Iowa rematch of the national championship game in the Elite 8.

That'll get a number. People will watch that. That will get a number. Yes. Absolutely. That's the least of which, the Washington Post story, that hasn't been published yet and may not be published by then. Who knows?

We'll bring a couple of few extra eyeballs to it. So let's talk about that real quickly because I can't remember now if I actually did anything on it yesterday on the podcast. I know I talked about it on radio. For those that don't know, Kim Mulkey, she is the head coach of LSU's women's basketball team. And by the way, they are the defending national champion. And I guess she's been there for a long time. I'll be honest with you. I know who she is.

I totally know who she is. I didn't really know who she was prior to last year, maybe, or the last couple of years. But she went on this preemptive strike, I guess you could call it. I didn't think it was very effective about a story that's been written by Kent Babb of the Washington Post about Kim Mulkey in the LSU Women's Program. I think that's what the story is about. And she basically threatened to sue the post for defamation. She talked about how the reporter wrote a story about Brian Kelly, the head football coach at LSU a couple of years ago. She didn't like it.

How the reporter's been searching out people that don't like her and then have an axe to grind against her. And she basically threatened a defamation lawsuit if the story were to come out. and specifically said the following. This reporter's been trying to get in touch with me and have me sit with him for an interview for two years. And then 48 hours before our first tournament game, this was last week, they send us a list of questions and give us 48 hours to respond.

And with that, when I heard that, I said, well, didn't you just kind of make the case that he didn't, did it right, that he's been trying to reach you for two years to get your side of the story. And I don't know, you're the journalist here. I thought that she sounded a bit out of control and actually was almost undid her overall pitch and presentation with the admission that she didn't talk to him, and yet he's been asking to talk to her for two years? What did you think? Well, I don't think, I mean, it sounds like to post it everything they could to talk with her, and as far as 48 hours to answer these specific questions, I mean,

and I heard you on the radio talking about this. That's generally the way you do these stories from the outside in, and you don't literally give the subject matter that has to come up with some answers to tough questions. A lot of time to do that because all kinds of things that could happen to screw up the story in that sense. 48 hours is a pretty good amount of time. Right. That's what I thought. To come up with a response for that. They didn't call her like 5 o'clock, you know, and they're going to press.

and ask these questions like the posted during Watergate when they called John Mitchell, you know. Tits in a ringer. It sounds like the post, yeah, it sounds like the posted, it did everything right. And I'm pissed off at them because now I'm going to have to read a 70-inch story about a women's college basketball coach. Everybody's going to read it now. No one would have read it. Now everybody's going to read it because she was unhaping. hinged.

But I think, and again, this is cycle analysis, and I could be way off on this. I understand that. But I think she speaks the language of unhinged. I think she did what she wanted to. I think she thinks that she's going to get hammered in this story, and she just spoke anger. It didn't matter what she was saying. It was how she was saying. And she hit all the right cords in her anger.

And the people that she was reaching don't particularly care what the story says. They just know there's an angry woman who's pissed off at the press. So if that's, I mean, she accomplished that goal. And I'll bet in Louisiana, that goes a long way. Well, it's, look, and I don't want to get into this in too much detail, because a lot of this is true with respect to a lot of news being slant, and by the way, the Washington Post in particular, having, you know, certainly a political bias. But with respect to Kent Bab and a sports story about Kim Mulkey, look, the Post has this reputation, right, of being fake news.

Like, you know, from conservatives, just like, you know, liberals think that Fox News and OAN and everything else is fake news. So we're in this divided environment to begin with. So to that extent, you're right. She's probably speaking to an audience, and she's emphasizing it's the Washington Post. They're fake news. You can't believe anything that you read coming from a paper like that. The problem, again, is in the process of trying to get that message across and be preemptive, she admitted that this guy's been trying to reach her for two years.

and as you said, and I know this to be true from you and other people who I know from your business, giving them 48 hours to actually answer and provide answers for a lot of those questions is not unusual at all. And isn't necessarily unfair. And by the way, that was last week and the story's still not out. So ultimately, it's probably more than 48 hours that they had to answer the question. but yeah. But let me ask you this, though. Yeah.

Ultimately, the Post has to publish a story now, right? Yes. They can't not publish it. Definitely. They have to have a story, or else did it look that they got beaten down by a woman's basketball coach in Louisiana. So they have to have a story at some point soon. Let me just mention. Kent Bab, who I don't think I've ever had on this show,

maybe I have after he wrote some story. I don't know him at all, I don't think. He actually tweeted out the story that he wrote about Brian Kelly that she referred to, and he quote tweeted, hit piece, question mark. I actually, I read it. It was so long. So I bet like this Kim Mulkey story is going to be probably pretty long, too. It was so long, and it wasn't necessarily a hit piece.

It wasn't favorable to LSU or to Brian Kelly or to the situation, but it felt like a story you could have read about almost any situation in the South where there's a major disparity in income between, you know, halves and have-nots and LSU's, you know, racial history, et cetera. But anyway, I would have never read this story prior to Kim Mulkey's, you know, statement the other day, would have never read this story. Now I'm interested in reading it. I just hope it's not as long as the Brian Kelly story because it took a while to read it. Did you read it? I may have when it came out. I don't recall if I did. I got to tell you, that's a pet peeve of mine now, length of stories.

because they're all written for the web a lot of times. And if they want to put a long story in a newspaper, it's not like they're going to bump any ads out of the way because there's no more ads in the newspaper. Right. So they've got plenty of room if they want to. I mean, as much as we criticize USA today when it first came out, there's something to be said for short stories.

And if you have a story that has a lot going on in it, that's worth 70, 75 inches, why not break it up into a five-piece series? In the old days, years ago, that's what they used to do. They'd have like a five or a ten-part series about this issue or that issue or that person, and you wouldn't have to read a 50-inch story, you know, every time. But these are reporters writing for other reporters, and trying to win contests. That's the whole thing behind the length phenomenon.

I mean, when a judge judges a journal of peace at a contest, they're not going to look at a 15-inch story the same way as a 70-in-story. So this is a pet people. We want people to read what we write, yet we make it difficult for them to read it. Are you saying this because your stories are, so short. Your columns are so short? No, I mean, when I was a regular news reporter and when I was a sports feature writer,

I wrote those long takeouts because that's what reporters like to do. It's strutters your stuff, you know? It's fun to write these kind of long stories. And he spent, I mean, I don't know how long he spent on it, but it's also justification. You know, I just think the newspaper business would be better served by shorter stories. And it's, If they have a topic that requires this much coverage, break it up into a series of stories. I've told you this for several years now. Your columns are great because they're great, but they also consistently leave you wanting more because they're short. And I think there's something to be said for that.

You see, they're not that short. My average column is 800 words. Okay? that's 16, 17 inches. Well, then they're so well written. They're so well written that you're just flying right through them, unless you're reading them on the website. I like it better when you copy and paste it and send it to me

because you get booted out of that website multiple times while you're reading it. Okay, we have other things to get to. We're going to get to the Otani story for sure. But Dan Quinn spoke this morning. Josh Harris just spoke down at the only. meetings. There's Christmas Day football. There's a new kickoff, which I explained yesterday on the podcast. It got approved today. We got a lot to get to. We'll do that when we return right after these words from a few of our sponsors. Hey guys, most of us are interested in our mental and physical

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There was more from Peters yesterday. And I talked a lot about what Peter said on yesterday. show. But Dan Quinn did say with respect to what their plan is at number two overall, Ben Standag asked him, you know, what he makes of the speculation of the reporting of what Washington will do it to. And he said, quote, if they say they know, they have to fill me in because Adam and I don't know yet, closed quote. It's kind of how I believe them. I believe Adam yesterday. I believe Quinn today. They haven't

had Jaden Daniels's Pro Day yet. That's Thursday. They haven't had Drake May's Pro Day. That's on Friday. I think Jayden Daniels is Wednesday, I think. Well, it's Wednesday. Then it's tomorrow. I knew it was either Wednesday or Thursday. They haven't had top 30 visits.

They got a long way to go on this. And I don't think that with the way they operate, that they do have an absolute answer at this point. If this were Dan, of course he'd have an answer at this point. He would have already been trying to trade up to one to get Caleb Williams. And if not, he'd be pushing, I'm sure, for Jaden Daniels or, you know, whoever he, whoever's closest to,

you know, somebody that he knows, like one of his family members. And Caleb Williams would have been the local in this draft. But no, I think, you know, all seriousness. I think that, I don't think they have an answer, despite some of the reporting out there or, you know, quasi-reporting. What do you think? Well, I believe that, too, in part because there are multiple options, you know? Yeah. You even take Caleb Williams out of the picture. There are still, now that J.J. McCarthy has skyrocketed to the top, there are three options. you know so yeah i mean i certainly understand how they haven't made up their mind yet uh because they have choices yeah i mean if there were only if there was just one other

quarterback um the choice could be that quarterback or another position another player right but but yeah uh i think to me the only thing that's a hunt that's 99 percent sure is they're taking a quarterback at two. I mean, 99% may be an exaggeration, but it's 90% that they're taking a quarterback at two. They're going to make a picket two. I just, I can't imagine that these quarterbacks, that there isn't one that they think, you know, fits and has a big enough upside to pass on. There's got to be at least one out of the three. Quinn also, in talking about his defensive scheme said, the focus is on fundamentals, quote, if you're not a good tackling team, you're going to get your ass kicked, closed quote.

He's right about that. Yeah. I mean, you know, we've seen some poor tackling here over the years. But, you know, I don't know how you blame the coaches. I mean, it's hard for me to believe that Jack Dale Reho, of all people, didn't preach strong tackling. Right. Yeah.

I mean, you had Ron Rivera from the 85 Bears and Jack Del Rio, Real, longtime head coach, big time linebacker. Yeah, we're not, yeah, we're much more into scheme. They'll figure out how to tackle. We're not worried about that. Who knows? So I don't know what the problem was or is moving forward,

but he's right. tackling is and watching a guy get 10 more yards after a mistackle is very aggravating. I don't know if I mentioned this yesterday or not, but I'll mention it now with you on the show. Over the weekend, there was a suggestion from Albert Breer, or maybe it was at the end of last week, that Chase Young's neck injury, which he's having surgery on, could have been a condition that he's had for a while. But that because he was drafted in 2020 during COVID, there just was a lot that slipped through the cracks. I remember talking about it at the time. You know, you're not going to be able to sit in front face to face with these players.

You're not going to be able to give them your own medical checkup. Like there was a lot that in that 2020 draft probably slipped through the cracks. I wonder if we'll look back at that 2020 draft. We can look back at it now. and see if there just were more misses than usual. But man, you wonder, like, if Chase Young's neck injury was kind of preexisting or was available for people to see had you had the ability to do more due diligence during the spring of 2020, if they would have picked him.

And then if not, would they have picked, you know, Tua or Justin Herbert? Look, I've said this a million times. if Tua or Justin Herbert came into an organization with Dan Snyder, it wouldn't have worked out regardless. You're right. You're right. He would have gone buddy-buddy with him. It doesn't matter who's a quarterback. It doesn't matter who the coach is, as long as this guy is the owner.

But let me ask you something about Chase Young. That may excuse, you know, missing it in drafting him. But then he was here for a couple years. Why didn't they pick it up then? I don't know He had stinger supposedly Well he had the stinger last summer

That was the Did they have these great doctors in New Orleans Was it some kind of voodoo doctor That the saints used that discovered it? No No Tommy He failed the physical For all three teams

That were interested The saints signed him anyway And the medical Before the trade deadline scared the bears off. The bears initially were interested in Chase Young before they traded for Montez Sweat, but they got scared off by the medical.

The 49ers didn't. But remember, he didn't have that stinger injury until the first preseason game last August against Cleveland. And the suggestion is maybe he had a neck injury that made him more predisposed to having, and it wasn't a, as it turns out, it wasn't a stinger. It was a neck injury, you know, that was neurological. Remember, he had to be cleared to play, and he wasn't cleared to play in the opener,

by a neurosurgeon. Not an orthopedic. I'm pretty sure that's true. I remember talking about it before the opener that he needed to get cleared, and until he got cleared by a neurosurgeon, it wasn't, you know, And let me just say this about him. I didn't mean to get sidetracked on Chase Young. But it explains to a certain degree the highlights that turned into memes of Chase Young,

loafing, not giving effort. You know, the idea after the play was biomed, it sort of exposed himself to a blindside hit, you know, with a relentless chase down of a runner. Like, he may have been playing very high. hesitantly, you know, with an injury that maybe still hurt. And he was told was, you know, not necessarily dangerous, but not, you know, something that's still there and not 100% heal.

I don't know. Then you look at the team from putting them out there. Yeah. I'll grant you that. And that is something to consider. But if that's the case, he got bad advice by not verbalizing it. Yeah. So Quinn, again, there just wasn't much from Quinn today.

And then Josh Harris talked this afternoon. And it looks like he may have had a one-on-one with J.P. Finley at NBC4. I don't know that for sure, but I'm going to read from J.P.'s Twitter account because this just happened a little while ago. Josh Harris was asked about the team's report card from the NFLPA. Remember that came out about a month ago and they had, you know, another. bottom level grade. It was like an F grade. And he said, quote, I'm not an F guy.

Close quote. Look, a lot of what they got graded on was because they hadn't been in the organization that long. It was based on the way it had been, not with the new group. But he also made it clear that he's going to make improvements at FedEx Field while looking for the best spot to build a new stadium and said the plan is. to continue to talk to all three jurisdictions, D.C., Maryland, and Virginia, and said also about the Caps and Wizards monumental move or potential move,

which doesn't look like a move now, to Northern Virginia. He said, quote, looking at it and learning from it, closed quote. Is that a bit of a shot? I mean, it's a perfect blueprint that how to fuck something I kiss up. So that's all you can learn from it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's looking at it.

He's learning from it. It's also probably not the best situation for him and for us wanting the football team back in D.C. If the Wizards and Caps stay in D.C. Because they'll get $500 million from the city. Yeah. But hopefully they can handle both of them. Okay, let me ask you that.

Yeah. Something I've been meaning to ask you. We talked about free agency, and they're very measured spending in free agency, and they still have a lot of cap room left, but they may not spend a lot on free agency, because they have a lot of other expenses, right? Yeah, I mean, they did not come close to being big spenders in free agency, even though they have 21 players, you know, four or five of them were their own,

16 or 17 of them knew, signed. They still have the most effective cap space left in the league or second most in the league. So what are you saying? Okay. You're saying that it puts D.C. at a disadvantage because unless they come to the table with as much money as Maryland does, that... Yeah, my point is, if it took so much to buy the team, and then they've got to pump money into a stadium where they play now in order to make it reasonable to go watch football in, where are they going to come up with the money for their share of a new stadium? Where's that coming from?

There are lots of different instruments, different vehicles that you can use in that case. It's far different from having to put all of the guaranteed money in a player contract into escrow right away. Right? I mean, they can raise that money in a lot of different ways that gets spread out over a long period of time as the project moves forward. that would be my answer to that. I don't know, I don't know what the plan is to to fund the portion of the new stadium

and the new build in terms of what the team's responsibility will be because they're not going to get the city to fund the entire thing. They're not going to get the land to build a stadium on and to build around the stadium, right? and then also get the city to pay, you know, everything. There's somebody I can talk to about that. There's somebody you can talk to about that, about how the whole thing would come together in terms of, you know,

let's just say that at the end of the day, there was a $3 billion price tag on the whole project, and the city's going to pick up 50% of it and the team's going to pick up 50% of it. How does it work from that point forward? they don't just start writing checks. There are different ways that that money is raised over a period of time, bonds, etc. But we could get that answer, but I don't have that answer for you now.

I don't think I don't have it either. So real quickly, before we finish up with Otani and a couple of other things, so the NFL did adopt the new kickoff return rule. Rich McKay, the head of the competition committee, the president and CEO of the Falcons, the chairman is Arthur Blank. He's the next guy in charge. He said it will be a drastic change aesthetically to football. And that's exactly what this is. There's never been a rule change that will make us.

turn on the TV to watch a football game and see several plays look completely different and look completely like it's a different sport or a different type of league, more of a gimmicky USFL or XFL league. But they adopted this kickoff return. And it's 29 to 3 was the vote. I explained it. I thought I did a better job explaining it on the podcast yesterday than I did on the radio show where I really butchered it.

But do you know what it is? You understand what the new kickoff return rule is or not? Well, it's similar to what the XFL now, the UFL, is where everyone lines up together on the same line, right? Is it not called the XFL anymore? And then you have two guys in the back. Is it not called the XFL anymore? No, it's called the United Football League.

Oh. Yeah, it's, they're not. Because it was a merger of the XFL and the U.S. FL. Right. And now it's the United Football. football league. I've seen enough of those kickoffs to have an idea of what I think it is. Yeah, so that's what it looks like. It's a little bit different, but that's essentially what it

looks like. I'd like what I saw in those games. Yeah. Well, we'll see what happens. I think the fact that the touchback is a 30 out to the 30 yard line. So if you kick it through the end zone or you kick it into the end zone and it's a touchback, the ball comes out to the 30. The last few years it's come out to the 25-yard line. So it's five yards more. They wanted it at the 35-yard line. The competition committee, several on the competition committee, wanted it more punitive to kick it into the end zone.

In fact, I was listening to the Saints special teams coach, and he thinks the difference between the 35 and the 30 on a touchback will probably reduce the number of returns. Some teams will say to hell with it, we're kicking it through the end zone, take it at the 30. In recent years, the number of kickoffs returned 21%. 10 years ago, 80%. So the play has become a much less significant play.

It just doesn't, it only happens two out of ten times. And so they want more of them. You know, you add up the number of kickoffs during the course of the year. It's like 2,000-some plays, and 80% of those plays were completely non-event plays. and that's what they're trying to change without making the play more unsafe. And so they went to this, you know, the kickers at the 35, the kickoff coverage team is the opponent's 40. The kickoff return team has seven to nine players, seven to ten players between the 35 and the 30,

and then nobody can move until the ball is fielded in play or hits the ground in play. There is definite, you know, risk. kicking it into the end zone because it comes out to the 30. If you don't kick it to the 20, it comes out to the 40. But if you kick it, it hits around the 10, you know, between the goal line and the 20 and goes into the end zone, it only comes out to the 20. I think the, now this is a one-year trial of this new kickoff rule. I think if you end up with the average starting field position of beyond the 30-yard

line on kicks that are returned, you're. you're just going to see kickers kick it through the back of the end zone and let the team come out and start it at the 30-yard line. But it'll take some time to get that data. It'll take a lot of time to get that data. I don't know what the result's going to be. I have no idea what to think about this play and whether or not the kickoff return team will have a big advantage

or the kickoff return. The kicker is going to be so important because trying to place the ball somewhere around the 10-yard line away from the returner. Like to me, you've got to have two returners back there to take away the kicker's ability to sort of squibit just past the 20 and have it roll down, you know,

potentially into the end zone for a touchback that would have it come out to the 20. Or, you know, remember, players can't move until the runner picks up the ball or has caught the ball. But I don't know. It'll be interesting. It's going to look different, that's for sure.

It'll look a lot different. So get ready for it. What does it do to onside kicks? Onside kicks. With all those guys. Well, there's no one. Up there. The onside kick now is a play that you have to declare.

You can only do it in the fourth quarter. You have to be behind. And you can only do it twice, which I found interesting. What if you're down three scores with like six minutes to go? And you score, you kick an onside kick, you recover, you score again. You can't kick another one. that doesn't make any sense to me, but that's what I read is that you're limited to two onside kicks. You have to declare them. They have to be in the fourth quarter. You have to be trailing.

And then we'll just go back to the old alignment for the onside kick. Everybody will be back at the 35 and you'll, you know, kicking on side kicks. So there's no more surprise on side kicks. They've eliminated that. That was not a big time play anyway. Probably, I would guess, less than a half dozen of those a year. Right. But you now have to declare it. Okay. The other thing today in the NFL is that they announced that they're going to have two games on Christmas Day.

Okay, well, what's the big deal about that, Kevin? Well, Christmas Day this year is a Wednesday. And the NFL always said, with the exception of the COVID games, They would never play on a Wednesday. That's the most difficult day of the week, really, to play on. Now, Tuesday is pretty difficult, too, unless it's the extension of that weekend. Wednesday's the first game of the next weekend. So they have now claimed Christmas Day as theirs.

It's over. They're playing on Christmas Day every year now. There was the expectation that they would not play on Christmas Day. At one point, they actually said, no, they won't play on Christmas Day in 2024 because Christmas Day falls on a Wednesday. Well, they have played on Christmas Day now four straight years. 2020, it was on a Friday. 2021 it was on a Saturday.

2022 it was on a Sunday. And this year it was on a Monday. Now they're going to play on a Wednesday. And so Christmas Day, by the way, doesn't fall on a Tuesday for, I think, another six years. So we'll find out whether or not they'll do it on a Tuesday. But here's what's interesting about this. So this is going to be the first year of the expanded 12-team college football

playoff. And the first big day of the college football team playoff was going to be Friday night or days, Friday night, December 20th with one quarter final game or first round game. and then on the 21st that Saturday with three more first round games. Well, the NFL said that the teams playing on Wednesday on Christmas Day will play Saturday games. So it'll be more like a Sunday to Thursday. In this case, it'll be a Saturday to Wednesday. But that means the NFL is going head to head on that Saturday with the college football triple header of first round games.

I thought they'd leave college to have that day and wouldn't play games on Saturday, but they apparently will. That's like Kronkite going up against the sports fix. Yeah, I think we're college football in that case, though, and Kronkites the NFL. We're getting smushed because no matter how big those college football games are, and that'll be the day where they're played in home stadiums, the first round, You get an NFL triple header on that day, and two of those or four of those teams are also going to play on Wednesday, on Christmas Day. Man, you are old enough, and I am barely old enough, to remember the first Christmas Day game ever.

And that was 1971, the epic playoff game between the Dolphins and the Chiefs, which is still the longest game. ever played. And the NFL, remember, before then, said they would never play on Christmas Day, but they did that particular year. All right. You got anything on this? Nothing on this, boss. All right, let's talk Otani. I'm all footballed out. Let's talk Otani when we come back right after these words from a few of our sponsors. Two rounds are in the books, guys. Round is 16 coming up on Thursday, Friday. Then the round of eight, and by the time we get to late Sunday night, we will be down to the last four teams standing in the tournament. If you're looking to combine daily fantasy sports and the tournament, I've got

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And, you know, I bet you, Matarazzi eats a lot of manicotti in Linguini, but we'll take a night off from that to go down to his own place to have the Shelley's Philly Burger, which sounds pretty good. All right. So Shohay Otani yesterday for 12 minutes, read off notes. in Japanese with a new interpreter and said that he's never bet on sports and that Mizuhara,

the interpreter that lost $4.5 million reportedly to an illegal bookie in Southern California, has, quote, been stealing money from us and has told lies. On a personal note, I'm very sad and shocked that someone who I've trusted has done this. So Tani yesterday claiming he's never bet on sports and that his interpreter and good friend stole the money from him. What do you think? Look, we read hundreds of incidents of people, of workers, close confidants of very famous people stealing their money. It happens often to me. I mean, so this story is certainly plausible.

Is it a cover-up? I think we're going to find out because the feds, you know, the federal government, the IRS is looking into this case as well as Major League Baseball. What I don't understand is how he had access to that amount of money as an interpreter. you know, and at some point that the bookie, you know, say, you know, where's this money? He knew the guy was some kind of stiff, you know, where's this money coming from? Was there ever a conversation with a tawny and the bookmaker? It's still a lot of questions. But the scenario he presented is a plausible scenario.

It is plausible, but this guy's got to go to jail if this is what really. happened. He stole four and a half million dollars from Shohei Otani, whether he's his good friend or not, whether he was his longtime interpreter and good friend. If true, he's in big, big trouble. So there are a couple of things. And so, I mean, I don't want, if you read that this guy gets off, you know, and gets some probation for stealing four and a half million bucks whenever this, you know, first of all, he's got to get charged. Let's see if he gets charged with stealing $4.5 million or whatever the amount will ultimately be. But there's a couple of things that I think are interesting about this.

Like, how does it, you're right, it's plausible, this happens. But usually it is the accountant. Usually it's the CFO. Usually it's the bookkeeper. How he got access to that money, that's what I don't get. Power of attorney, or he did it. with Otani and because Otani doesn't speak the language

he had Otani sign things or you know walk in somewhere to a bank you know for a wire transfer and he just lied to him about what he was signing like there could be a language barrier issue that got Otani you know duped in this thing too by the interpreter

like there there's several possibilities if you think it through but it's just not it's not that somebody whose name is not on the account can just go in and start wiring hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time. And I say hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time because it's not like that book just let him run up a $4.5 million debt before he said, oh, by the way, I need to get paid next week. That's not the way illegal sports books work. He was paying his losses as he was going so he could continue to bet or he would not have been allowed to bet. But there's a lot

that I think is weird about this story. But at the same time in watching Otani, I believe him. I believe that he didn't bet. I definitely believe that he was not the person who was betting and lost the money. I'm a little bit more skeptical about whether or not this guy really stole the money without Otani knowing. So am I. So am I. I mean, that's the big question. If you believe Otani, then how did this guy get access to his money?

How did that happen? I think we'll eventually get the answer to that. They may not have, they may have strong-armed questions yesterday by not taking any, but they're going to have to sooner or later. And I hope there's a good resolution to this for Otani because he's very important to Major League Baseball. Oh, my God. as is the gambling partners with Major League Baseball, they're very important too.

Last thing before we leave, actually two quick things. The Wizards won their third game in a row last night. There's my Wizards update. But my God, I mean, now they're two games ahead of Detroit for the worst record in the NBA. But you and I did brackets last week. Actually, you were the one that came in all fired up with a bracket ready to go.

And so we filled out brackets that day. And right before the radio show this morning, I looked to see how my bracket was doing because I honestly don't care about brackets. I bet on these games like Otani's interpreter does. And the bracket just doesn't do it for me. But I filled out a bracket or two, and I filled one out with Tommy on the show last week.

and I pulled up my bracket. I'm in the 82.9 percentile on ESPN.com's bracket contest. That's really high. Now, I can't win it. I have 11 of the Sweet 16, correct, and three of the final four, correct. You have nine of the Sweet 16 and three of the Final Four, but you had some really good first round upset picks. You picked Oakland and you picked Duquesne, both of whom won outright.

And actually, I might be missing one. Did you have another one? You know, that was last week. Well, I had NC State. Did you have James Madison? Yes, I did. Yeah, you had Madison. You had NC State.

Did you have UAB? No, I did not have UAB. Yeah, for the first round. you had Madison and NC State. You did really well with your upset picks, but I have more of the sweet 16 teams. I have 11. My final four, Houston over Purdue, Connecticut over Baylor,

so I've lost Baylor. And I have Houston over Yukon in the final. And your final four teams are Connecticut, Alabama, Houston, and why am I missing your other two? In Texas. They're out. So you have Connecticut, Alabama, and Houston alive.

What was your final? Connecticut versus Houston, with Houston being the champion. It's like yours. You're just like mine. Okay. So that's where we are on our bracket contest. Do you have anything else? I got nothing else for you today, boss.

All right. Then I will talk to you on Thursday, and I will be back. with another show tomorrow. See you, Tommy. Okay. Send in, Ovechka. Backhand, score!

And he celebrates with his son.