The Kevin Sheehan Show - Drafting Offense First?

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

Kevin and Thom today with some weather to start. Kevin thinks this stretch of winter has been one of the worst in DC history. Thom mentioned that Bill Belichick already has a piece of Hall of Fame history while Kevin returned to the scene 11 years ago and explained how Belichick nearly cost the Patriots Super Bowl 49 against the Seahawks. What if Washington drafts an offensive player with #7 overall? The guys gave their answers. Kevin reviewed "Landman" Season 2 while Thom had two TV show recommendations. For all your football betting needs: DCRELOAD at MyBookie for a 50% Deposit Match Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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86690 Nation. We're windownation.com if you need new windows. Tommy, it is 37 degrees in our nation's capital and surrounding areas. It is by far and away the warmest day in about two weeks. And as I was waiting for you to get ready and get situated in the car to do the podcast down in Florida, I went for a walk and it felt like it was 75 after the weather that we've had. That's pretty sad when you get to 37 in the middle of the day and it feels like spring. But that's how bad it's been. Is this the first day that you guys have been above freezing?

I think we were above freezing yesterday, but just barely. I think that was the first day in like nine or ten days we'd been above freezing. And it's supposed to drop back down, though, isn't it? Well, it's going to get, again, brutally cold this weekend, and there's so snow tonight and snow on Friday. Nothing big, nothing big. Just kind of snow showers, light snow, nothing big. But let me just tell you, today was the first day in my neighborhood that, there was trash pickup in two weeks.

We get our trash pickup on Tuesdays, and there was no chance last Tuesday. We didn't get mail for four days last week. I don't think we got mail until Thursday or Friday of last week, and the storm was Sunday, you know, a week ago, Sunday. And no trash pickup. You know, when it's as frigid as it's been, it's not like, you know, the overcrowding trash cans, like anything smells like it's been there too long because it's just all frozen. But let me just tell you that I couldn't get my trash cans from where they are near my garage up to the curb

because they are encased in ice, totally encased about halfway up the trash cans. And so I had to get these big, you know, contractor bags, you know, know, these big green bags, we have them in our garage, and take the trash out of each trash can and put them into those and put them out by the curb. Because I tried, I had a huge, you know, shovel, but people are just breaking shovels trying to shovel. Now, this was a big, heavy shovel, but it would have taken me an hour to dig the trash cans out. It was absurd. You know what else? My son, my son who lives in Baltimore,

since it's a video of them removing snow from the street. Yeah. They're used to the front end loader. Yeah. Oh, it's not a plow. This, this, like they're lifting chunks of a building. That's what it's like. This was a once in a generation kind of situation.

It's really rare what happened and what is happening. I'm acting like it's over. It's not over. Yeah, no, you're right. You know, it was four to six inches of snow, depending on where you live in the DMV, followed by three to four inches of sleep, followed by brutally cold temperatures

pretty much for a week straight, where you weren't getting above the low 20s during the day, high teens, low 20s, and at night it was back in the single digits near zero, and maybe 10, 12 degrees, 14 degrees in the city. And it's, they just can't move it. If you didn't move it as it was happening, you're unable to move it. And, you know, it's really been schools, I think, went back today in a lot of areas.

Some schools had every day off last week and Monday yesterday. Yeah, I've been reading that. I don't think, I mean, I don't remember in my lifetime living here a storm quite like this or the aftermath. It would have been one thing had, you know, the temperatures gone above freezing for a few days after the storm and with some sun, you know, you got some melting and you could, we didn't get, we, we haven't gotten that. And then this weekend, temperatures in the upper teens to low 20s, those are the high temperatures during the day. and then, you know, at night, single digits to like 10 above. And then apparently late next week, we start to actually get into 40s and maybe, you know, a little bit nicer. We'll see.

I mean, I'm not holding my breath. But I'll tell you what, this area needs a couple of 40 to 45 degree days that are sunny badly, real badly. it just has really been a pain in the ass. But for you... Yeah. We had some cold days on Saturday and Sunday. What makes it really cold is the wind coming off the ocean. I mean, it's like 25, 30 miles an hour winds coming off the ocean.

And when the temperature's 46, like it was, it feels like it's 26. and it's whipping on you. So Saturday, but today, 62, tomorrow is 67, 60, 60, 60, 63, the 60s and 70s for the foreseeable future. Yeah, I'm looking at your forecast. It just makes me ill. Now, my father, who's on the West Coast, you know, he's kind of near Sarasota, they had temperatures in the 30s the other morning.

and even some like snow florees not that far to the north of where they were. But I'll tell you, man, it's, I think we've all just about had it up here. I mean, it's not fun doing this for a week. It isn't. You know, I'm now reading light snow tonight up to an inch. That's all we need is another inch on top of everything else with the temperatures falling. You'll never see those garbage cans. I'll tell you what, my garbage cans aren't moving until that ice melts around it.

I mean, I could sit there and invest an hour and a half and do it if I wanted to. It wasn't hard. I mean, I did take the recyclables and also put them into the other big trash bags. I mean, you know, what are you going to do? I know. I'm not marking them. Huh? These are desperate times.

These are desperate times. calls for very desperate measures. Yeah, not fun. It was always, you know, when you and I were doing Super Bowl weeks, either together or individually, it was always kind of about the location and the weather. Because, you know, it's early February. Chance to get out of here for a week, you know, to go somewhere nice was great.

Now, you know, some of the places weren't nice. You got to go to Indianapolis, not exactly warm. You know, Indy was warm that week. It was like 50 degrees. Yeah. You loved Indy. You loved that week. Well, you know what?

The party is wherever I am. So we had a party in Indy. Right. I can tell you that. That's where we did the Notre Dame bit. Yeah. Where I played nose tackle at Notre Dame for three years. Yeah.

People from South Bend, wound up buying a drink. Sure. Why wouldn't they? But Dallas, we'll always have Dallas. We'll always have Dallas. We'll always have South Florida. South Florida was good. Yeah. Florida was exactly what you would want.

I think, you know, I will tell you, I've said this before, but the week in New York was spectacular before the Broncos Seahawks Super Bowl in the Meadowlands. It was really cold in New York, but it was a fun week. San Francisco, were we in San Francisco together or not? No. No, we weren't. We did two together. We did Dallas and we did South Florida.

And then I did India and New Orleans by myself, and then you did them with Kooley. I did New York and San Francisco and Phoenix with Kooley? I didn't do any of those. Did we, you didn't, you and I didn't do Phoenix together? No. Well, that was, I mean, God. The history of our, you know, bosses in radio. However mad it was in Phoenix, it couldn't have been worse than the motel in Dallas.

Yes, it was, because it was a crack-infested, you know, dealer parking lot. I mean, Doc and I. In Dallas, in Dallas, they had a cough, not. a security guard, a cop in the lobby every night. Well, we didn't, it's not like we walked through a lobby to get to the car, you know? That's true. I mean, we would have had to walk outside to get to the lobby. Yeah.

Yeah, that was, Dallas was an experience because we got there and we woke up the next morning encased in ice like we are now here, and they had no ability to clear it. And it wasn't easy. somehow though whenever we've brought this story up in the past people have asked us well how did you get to work I think

I just drove right through it didn't we you did the driving yeah I did the drive at it and you would drop me off right at the front door to hotel I did that I was your chauffeur and then you'd go back to park and navigate your way walking back from the parking garage

to Radio Row The Phoenix Super Bowl, the first Phoenix Super Bowl I did was when I was with Rigo. And John and Gary Braun and I did that, and CJ was with us. That was, I mean, Scottsdale was a great time that week because the waste management was there. The golf tournament was there at the same week. I think I've told that story before, but Rigo had to do this, had to do this promotional thing with Ron Jowarski and Joe Buck at the 16th at, you know, Scottsdale TPC, the famous 16th hole with the

stadium and the whole thing. And it wasn't like there were a lot of fans there, but there were people there. And they were doing some sort of Q&A in that it was going to end with the three of them hitting, you know, a shot into the 16th green. And I mean, Joe Bucks in his golf clubs, is in his golf clothes and,

you know, has his own clubs and Jorski, and they're over there on the range when we showed up in Rigo. RICO's like, what are they doing? And Rigo's not a golfer. He doesn't play. And I swear to God on my kids, who are all now grown, that, you know, Joe Bucks sprays one left, Jorski basically hits one far right.

And Rigo's literally asking, well, what club do I use? And somebody hands him a seven iron, and he gets up and he takes one practice swing. swing and then he hits it and it's like 15 feet from the cup and people are going nuts and he's like I didn't think it was that hard and I'm like it's a pretty hard game and and you know he got probably a little bit of lucky probably got a little lucky but there was also a lot of you know athleticism and hand-eye coordination and the whole thing but um the phoenix super bowl that I guess you and I weren't together. I guess I was doing this with Cooley. We arrived. Cooley, Doc, and I, I'm pretty sure the three of us were in a rental car headed towards the hotel. And as we pulled up, we said, well,

this can't be it, except that it was. It was, first of all, like 45 minutes south of town and of Radio Row. And we pulled in, and it was literally a drug dealer in. In infested, you know, parking lot to which I immediately, Cooley goes, well, I'm not staying here. And I said, none of us are staying here. That's over. We turned around. We drove. I got on the phone.

We booked rooms that were not that far away from Radio Row for, you know, $30 more a night or something like that. Same thing happened in San Francisco, although it wasn't, you know, necessarily a dangerous area. but they booked us, you know, Rick Carmine, trying to save a nickel, booked us at so far away from Radio Row. And I went online like, you know, two days before and I said, there's a hotel a block away from Radio Row. I'll pay the extra $15 a night. You know, it was like instead of, you know, $425 a night, it was $440 or $450.

$50 a night and they were literally trying to save that kind of money except they didn't consider the actual travel expenses to get from the hotel they booked to Radio Row and how that would make it a much more expensive trip so I can't it was always short-sighted oh god I canceled my reservation and they they it was full cancellation and I booked Doc and me and I think Cooley Doc and I for sure. I think Cooley may have been staying somewhere else for that Super Bowl. Or wait a minute.

Were you and I doing this show for the San Francisco Super Bowl? I forget the last one. Whatever it was, Doc and I, Doc's like, I'm going with you. And I said, yeah, we're not doing this deal. And I booked us like in some Marriott that was literally two blocks from Radio Row. It was in Union Square, you know, downtown San Francisco, wasn't necessarily the greatest part of the sixth. but it was fine and it was close enough to Radio Row.

And we were the only ones on time. The travel issues that everybody else was having, trying to fight through all Super Bowl traffic that week to get to Radio Row. Just silly. Man, I remember, I remember saying to, I think it was Chuck. I think I said to Chuck, you know, all of us, there's like one week, out of the year. You know, the majority of us get to get, you know, we get to get together, hang out socially, you know, dinners and the whole thing. And for an extra, hardly anything,

you know, overall, that should be part of, we're working, we're working hard, you know this, you work hard, Super Bowl week. You know, those, they're long days. But no, they, they, they never thought of it that way. Um, They wanted you, they wanted to punish you. They wanted you to be punished for going. We had management that thought they were getting rewarded by, you know, putting us in the cheapest place that they could find. And more times than not, they were burned by it because everything else would end up costing so much more.

Anyway, enough complaining about old management, even though it was interesting. That's for sure. Are you... Best not being at Radio Row? No. Oh my God, no. Do you? I used to like it.

I used to think it was fun. I didn't mind it. We had some good times, and those were fun weeks. But, you know, apparently Radio Row is like, it's like half of what it used to be. And I could see that. You know, first of all, radio in general has not been a thriving business since the pandemic. That's number one. Number two is I think a lot of program directors figured out that unless you're really generating a ton of new revenue from sponsors to send everybody out there for Super Bowl week,

it's really not doing a hell of a lot for the listener. You know, the shows that people did from back in the studio, if we were at the Super Bowl, weren't that much different than the shows we were doing in terms of the, from the listeners standpoint. Doc and I once faked like we were at the Super Bowl for the entire week. We did that. When Doc and I did a show together, which was for like maybe two years, max, a year and a half,

they didn't send us to the Super Bowl. So we just acted like we were at the Super Bowl for like the first three days and everybody bought it. Because, you know, they were still booking guests. You know, like whoever was running the, station, it may have been Chuck, was, you know, putting guests on with us from the little table that they had set up out there. I think some of the fun trips that we did together were to Vegas for fights when HBO would send us out there for fights and pay the entire freight.

Yeah. Yeah. Those were fun. Those were fun. That MGM, though, that MGM arena, always a good one, but the MGM in general, you know, put me in the win. Thank you. The MGM's too big. Really, the MGM was thought. That's why Sips spent 90% of the time I was in Vegas. I know. That's where they always put us up. Yeah.

So are you, you're not into this Super Bowl, right? Yeah, I am. I'm curious about, I'm very interested in Seattle. I hope they kicked the living shit out of Patriots. Why? Well, for numerous personal reasons. What are the personal reasons? Please share them with us.

No, there's no point in doing that. What? We'll go down a road that we don't want to go down. Oh, is it because a craft? Is it craft? Yeah. Oh, because Kraft's a Trump guy. Okay.

Well, what are this? Let's not go down that. Well, wait a minute. The Seattle, what are the Allens? I don't know anything about the sister. She's selling the team. Right. That's how you determine who you're going to root for.

Well, it doesn't take much not to root against a patriot. Okay. Well, I thought you were infatuated with Rabel. You think he's so handsome with the big head and the big chin. You had kind of a crush on him. Yeah, but I'm more interested in Seattle because they rebuilt and they came back to the Super Bowl with the same philosophy relying on defense.

You know, in the era of offense, and now maybe you could argue we're right now at this moment, we're in an era of defense, but the Seahawks had the, you know, the great defense the last time they were at the Super Bowl, they've got a great defense again, and I just wonder

if there's a blueprint there for everyone to learn from. That no matter what changes you go through, defense, will get you where you need to go. It certainly did this year. I mean, both of these teams have been led by their defense. Now, Seattle was outstanding offensively in the playoffs.

But yeah, there's no doubt. You know, I had Aaron Shats, who's the DVOA guy, the creator of the DVOA. I had him on the radio show today, if you guys are interested. He's pretty good. You know, we did some historical stuff. the 1991 Redskins, if you factor in regular season with playoffs, they're the greatest team per the DVOA metric of all time. Wow.

So that's, you know, they were not, their number, they're number three regular season of all time, but with the postseason because the 2007 Patriots lost the Super Bowl to the Giants, and they're the number one regular season. team of all time, but he said 91 skins, the greatest team of all time. Why would that

Patriots team be the number one team over the undefeated Miami Dolphins? Oh, because they were just so much better in every key metric. I remember, the 72 Dolphins, Tommy, they won

like there were so many games that they barely squeaked by-in during that year. They were playing Earl Morrill. They were playing Earl Morrill. But at the end, they were playing Bob Greasy. They played Bob. A Hall-Fame quarterback.

They did play Bob Greasy. Greasy came in in the AFC Championship game and then started and played the entire Super Bowl after Moral had had most of the regular season. But the Miami Dolphins in that regular season, two-point win over Minnesota, one point went over Buffalo, four-point win over the Jets. And then remember at Pittsburgh in this weird that an undefeated team had to play the championship game on the road in 72. New Year's Eve, 72. The undefeated dolphins are playing at three rivers against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Why? Because back then, they alternated, you know, year by year, you know, they basically gave each division a chance to hope.

You know, championship games on, you know, an annual basis it would change. Now, if one of those teams, it would be some sort of order. So if one of those teams in the championship game wasn't from that division, then it would go to the next one. And the AFC East wasn't ahead of the AFC. It was the central back then. So Pittsburgh hosted Miami, and Miami, you know, had a fake punt in the game, and they barely beat the Steelers 2117.

and then, you know, they beat the Redskins pretty handily. 14-7, not necessarily reflective. But Tom, those 2007 Patriots, I mean, they basically, do you remember some of the point spreads in the games? I mean, some of the largest point spreads we've ever seen in NFL history were the Patriots in 2007 when they were just destroying people that year. And that's, you know, that's why they were good. God, they scored.

I mean, they set the NFL record, which I think still stands today for points in a season. They averaged 36.8 points per game. I would assume that's the most ever. But you know something? What? That Dolphins team had one, two, three, four, five. Yeah, I know. Hall of Famers.

Six Hall of Famers. Right. How many were on the Patriots team are gone into the Hall of Fame? I'm going to ask you a question that I don't have the answer to before I answer that. Because you've done this before with like the Kansas City Chiefs

and other teams from 60s and 70s, the Packers, etc. Why is it that the 60s and 70s championship teams have so many more Hall of Famers on those teams than teams that came later? I think that's true. Is it because more people were getting into the Hall of Fame back then?

There wasn't a limit. Was it because there were so few teams and so few candidates because there were fewer teams? Why is that? Because it's true, right? That the Packers and, you know, the Steelers of the 70s and the Dolphins, you know, and your chief favorite team from that era, the chiefs in the AFL, you know, the Hank Stramm chiefs. They just have so many more Hall of Fame players, it seems like.

I don't know. Well, I mean, you're right. I don't know what the answer is. I mean, you know, to make my case, it could be because the talent across the league is more diluted 30 years later than it was then. Sure. You know, where some of those players would have been on different teams. Right.

instead of all, you know, with the same team. That's true too, yes. More teams, more players back then, and more players moving. Yes. So I think that could have something to do with it, but I'm just grasping for answers here. The 1950 Rams, if we're going to go pre-merger, are the highest scoring team in NFL history, 38.8 points per game. But post...

Waterfield quarterback. But post-merger. You know, the Redskins of 83 set the record for most points in average. Then they broke their own record, or maybe they broke the record set by Minnesota a few years later, in 91. And then the Patriots broke that record in 2007. But the Peyton Manning Broncos in 2013 averaged 37.9 points per game. post-merger, they're the highest scoring team since 1970 in the NFL. Well, back to your question about the Patriots, who's in the Hall of Fame from that team.

Brady and Moss, I can't, for the life of me, think of the others. I'm sure there are a few others, right, or not? Belichick's not in the Hall of Fame yet. I don't know. You know that 1950 Rams team. I glad you bought that up. Because they had a Hall of, they had a Hall of Famer who was an end.

He was a receiver. His name was Ellroy Crazy Legs Hersh. Right. I've heard of them. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Well, a couple of them.

weeks ago, before we came down here, there was a movie on Turner Classic movies about his life. And he starred in it playing himself. And I watched the whole thing, and it was fascinating. You know, and he was pretty good. And that whole phenomenon back then, like Jackie Robinson was played himself in the Jackie Robinson story. You know, and Crazy Lakes played himself in the Crazy Lakes movie. Uh-huh. And it was a pretty good movie.

Right. You know, and so it's curious that you brought up in 1950 Rams. Because Elroy Hirsch is a Hall of Famer, by the way. I think, yeah, I know that name, certainly. Of course, I know he's a Hall of Famer. We don't have nicknames like that anymore, do we? I'm just trying to think, did Muhammad Ali? play himself in a movie or not?

Yes, he did. The first one. Okay, yeah. The greatest. Thought so. Yeah, in 19776, or I think for 77 that came out. Right. It wasn't a very good movie. No. Not like the Will Smith-Ally movie. Yeah, I'm just trying to think of people like in biopics and stuff that have played themselves.

Bob Matthias, on the same night that I watched Crazy Legg Hirsch the Bob Matthias story he's like a two-time Olympic DeCathalon champion Howard Stern Howard Stern played himself

in the movie yeah and he was good private parts oh he was really good the movie was a great movie yeah yeah it was

and I'm not a stern fan and I thought it was a great movie um okay we're just kind of rambling here let me just say this Maybe you're rambling. I always have a person.

The Super Bowl for me this weekend, I mean, of course, I'm going to be, I think it's always anti-climactic, to be honest with you. I mean, in thinking about like a Super Bowl that I was really ginned up about recently, you know what? I was excited to watch the Eagles defense against the Chiefs last year leading into that game. I actually wanted and couldn't wait to watch that game. I also bet the Eagles end on the money. line and gave them out as a smell test pick the whole thing and really felt strongly about that game.

But, oh, the Brady Chiefs game, when the Bucks played the Chiefs, I was looking forward to that game, that Super Bowl. I don't know. This one, this one is not sexy. I mean, it would have been had the Rams been in and face the Patriots, that would have been, that would have been a super. that people I think would have really Well, the Seahawks got me jinned up because of their defense and how

they basically in not that long of a span rebuilt themselves. Yeah. Okay. I mean, that's, I guess, one angle to take. I mean, if Stafford had been

in the game, you would have had the two front runners for the MVP at quarterback. And it could have been the swan song for Stafford. you'd have Sean McVeigh and the Rams. I don't know. When we get there on Sunday, I'll be interested for sure. And I do kind of like the Patriots plus the points right now.

I'm definitely leaning in that direction. It certainly seems like a lot of people believe Seattle's going to win this game. Part of it is that the Patriots just haven't played well, you know, in the postseason. They're kind of fortunate to be here. I mean, they played a backup quarterback in a snowstorm and held on for dear life. They played a Houston team in the snow that literally had a quarterback that just handed them the game. And then the Chargers were too messed up along their offensive line to really give them a battle. But I'll tell you what's been impressive has been their defense.

New England's defense has been very impressive in this postseason. I think Seattle might struggle with it. I think that Sam Darnold's had a nice little run here, but they haven't played anybody really. good defensively. The Rams really were cratering over the last quarter of the season, really last third of the season defensively. Well, you'll give us your prediction on the Super Bowl on Thursday show. You wrote a column about Bill Belichick, and you wanted to ask me a question about Washington's number seven pick in the NFL draft. So we've got a lot to get to, and we We will start doing that in a more serious, organized way when we come back after these words from a few of our sponsors.

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I wanted to just mention a couple of things about, Roger Goodell's presser yesterday. He did his Super Bowl press conference yesterday, took questions. First of all, man, they are on the fast track to getting as many international games on the schedule as possible. There are going to be a record number nine international games in 26. And most people believe that they are, you know, trying to get to the point where every single NFL week, with the exception of the final. week of the season has international football games with every team using one of its home games to host an international game. I guess every two years it would be. But this year,

they're going to Melbourne, Australia, Tommy. I would think that that's going to be two West Coast teams playing in that game. They're in Paris, France, for the first time. It's going to be New Orleans hosting that game. Reports are they'll host Cleveland. So we're not giving the French our best, at least on paper. Not exactly the Statue of Liberty there. It's not exactly the New Arc de Triumph. But you know what?

We've given France a lot over the years. We've helped them out in a lot of other ways over the years. But who knows? Cleveland, New Orleans might be a good game. I actually think the Saints are going to be pretty good. Good. There's a game in Rio again. There's a game in Munich. There's another game in Madrid. They're three in London. And then they added yesterday Mexico City to the slate. And apparently it's going to be an annual deal in Mexico City. That game reportedly will be played in December. Usually they get these games, these international games, kind of over by early to mid-November.

What do you think about? Yeah. Well, I heard a rumor that they're trying to add one in Greenland, that they're trying to play one in Greenland. Yeah, I think they're going to wait for the acquisition to go through. There's still, there's a closing date on that, and they're going to wait for that. Okay. Can you imagine it better be a dome stadium because it gets pretty damn cold in that one little town that we keep seeing pictures of with all of the different

colored houses. So, what do I think of all the foreign games? I understand it from a business point of view. Sure. I think it's probably smart. I think it shortchanges the hometown fans who lose a game

in situations. I understand why they're upset, but I certainly understand why the NFL is doing it. I think fans now have gotten to the point where they actually prefer to go on road trips to see their team once or twice a year. That's a big road trip.

It is, but it's also been very popular. I would imagine the Paris game. It's Cleveland and New Orleans will see. Obviously, the Saints have their own kind of French connection. But yeah, so Washington's going to host a game next year,

international game. It won't be Melbourne. I doubt it'll be Madrid. It's not going to be France. So it'll either be Rio, Munich, or London, or Mexico City. potentially. The other thing that the commissioner mentioned is for the first time, I actually heard him say about the 18 game schedule, yeah, might not happen. He said, quote, it's not a

given that we're going to do that. It's not something that we assume will happen. It's something we'll want to talk to union leadership about. You know, in the past when he's been asked about it, he's been pretty bullish sounding on an 18 game schedule. They're getting a lot of pushback, obviously, from the union on this, and the union's going to want to extract something for it. The thing that I think a lot of fans don't understand is another game adds a lot more revenue to which the players are benefiting from that. And the reason for that, for those of you who don't follow,

the collective bargaining agreement and the business relationship between the owners and the players. The players currently get 48.8% of all top line revenue. The owners get 51.2% of top line revenue. Adding a game means more

media money, which then goes into the pot, which the players then get their cut of. It's not like they have to negotiate for the extra revenue for the game, it's already there. They benefit from the extra game and the extra money that comes with it. It doesn't mean that they shouldn't try to get larger roster sizes to protect player safety with the extra game, those kinds of things, which I do think makes the most sense that they increase roster sizes.

And for the union, roster sizes. For the union, that's more jobs. It's more, exactly. It's more jobs. Now, remember, they expanded the practice squad a couple of years ago. It was really five years ago now, right, during COVID, or maybe the years after. So there have been more jobs, you know, created with, you know, the larger practice squads. But I think you need larger game day rosters.

I think, you know, there needs to be more than 45 or 46 players. And the roster sizes have to be larger than 53. and um but you know I always hear well what are the players going to get out of this the same thing the owners are getting out of it they're getting more money because they're revenue partners they're in a rev share with the owners uh tell me about your column on belichick well I mean look I was always a fan I've always been a fan of bellichick I think he's a great coach but I think this goes back to his days when he was the defensive coordinator with the Giants.

And he had a great defense. He had great defensive players. Talk about Hall fame players on that defense led by maybe the greatest defensive player of all time and Lawrence Taylor. But what he did in that Super Bowl, I think it was Super Bowl 25 against the against the bills. Right.

In 19, when they played Buffalo, the first, yeah, the first Super Bowl for Buffalo for their four run lost streak. And Buffalo had this high-powered offense that K-gun offense that they had. I mean, they had beat Oakland in the AFC championship game 51 to 3, I think, or 51 to 7.

You know who the quarterback of the Raiders was that day? Was it Jay Schrader? It was Jay Schrader. Okay. Yeah. That would make sense around that. one to three in the AFC championship game.

They were high-off game. The week before against the dolphins. Against the dolphins, yeah. So, I mean, you know, Jim Kelly, you got four Hall-famers on offense. Jim Kelly, James Lofton, Andre Reed, Berman Thomas. And it's good as the Giants were.

You know, no one expected them to be able to stop that offense because they scored so quickly. Right. I mean, you know, they did the know-huddle, they scored quickly. They put up points. And I think Buffalo was favored by seven going into that.

They were a solid favorite, yeah. Yeah. And Bill Belichick came off with this game plan where he used two defensive linemen and then depending on the play, on the down, he would have even more linebackers or more defensive backs.

you know, and he was basically told his defense, we're going to encourage Berman Thomas to run for over 100 yards that day. So we're going to let him run for over 100 yards. And Carl Banks said they weren't credulous because nobody ran for 100 yards on that giant's defense. Right. And they were going to sit there,

they were going to let them do it. You know, and he did. He ran for 135 yards. on like 15 carries. But the point of it was they didn't want, they didn't want them to start relying on their passing game. They wanted them to fall into the trap of running the ball, which would take up more time, okay, would give, you know, the time of possession.

It wouldn't be able to score as quickly. And it worked. It was a time of possession. The Giants had the ball for like 40 minutes. The bills had. Bill's had the ball for like 19 some minutes. So, I mean, I remember that game well. I remember, you know, the Belichick strategy for sure.

But to me, my memory of it was this was much more about a giant offense with Jeff Hostel or a quarterback and O.J. Anderson, Otis Anderson, and the back field. And that they just, they ran the ball, they possessed. the ball. They slowed the game down, and I'm pulling it up right now, but I think they had a time of possession advantage of like 40 to 20. Yes, it was. That's what I just said. Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah. My fault. Yeah. So here it is. 40-33 to 1927. Yeah. Now, you have to get stops to get the ball back, but then you got to hold on to the ball forever. Yes, you do. The offense was a big part of it. Otis Anderson and Dave Meggit, I think, ran for like 160 or 170 yards

combined. And Otis Anderson was the MVP. He was the MVP. He was the MVP. Of that Super Bowl. Yeah. But the Belichick game plan was so gutsy. I mean, he was so out of the box. Basically, we're not going to beat them. No matter how good we are, we're not going to beat them unless we do something drastic. We're going to give them a defense they've never seen before. And that blueprint, you know, those drawings, those like,

those markers on loose leaf paper, they're on display at the Pro Football Hall Fame in Canton. Well, then he can wait for his, you know, induction. So he is in the hall. He's in there already. Yes. Yeah.

So that's what my column is about. That Super Bowl was shocking. Well, that was the wide, the one to everyone remembers, it's, you know, 47-yard field goal wide, right? Scott Norwood, yeah. It was, I don't even think it was 47 yards. I think it was shorter than that, wasn't it? No, I think it was 47 yards?

Was it 47? You know, that giant team was a giant team that when they lost Phil Sims, they were undefeated, and they had, they, through a lot of that season, they had two, there are two games against the skins that year. I want to pull it up because I want to say they were super early in the season, and they were really good games. And so they didn't play again until the end. They didn't play again at the end of the year. Yeah, listen to this about, this is crazy about the giant schedule in 1990.

They opened with the Eagles, then the Cowboys, then they played the Dolphins, then they played the Cowboys again. They played the Cowboys twice in the first four weeks of the season. Then they get the Redskins, the Cardinals, who were in the division, and then the Redskins again. I was right. They played him twice in three weeks. They played the Cowboys twice in three weeks, but twice in the first four weeks of the season.

They played the skins twice in three weeks. The first game they won at RFK 24 to 20. I remember that game. And the second game was a Stan Humphreys game because it was so intense this game. You know, that was the rivalry in the NFC East in 1990. I mean, after the, you know, the battles they had had going back to, you know, 86 was giant skins, more than it was skins cowboys or giants cowboys. Yeah, Stan Humphreys started that game.

and it was a vicious game. The Giants ended up winning 2110, but if my memory serves me correctly, Washington was down in giant territory, late down 14 to 10, and I think Humphreys threw a pick. Washington, that was the year of them going to the postseason, beating Philadelphia in the wild card round

after they had lost two months earlier in the body bag game. But the Giants lost Philson, Do you remember what week it was? I think it was pretty late in the season. It was pretty late. I think it was like week 13, 14. And then they crush the Bears, and then the game that I still believe is one of the best playoff games I have ever watched was the NFC championship game at Candlestick

against those Niners. That Niners team was the one seed. They were a big favorite in that game. This was the 15 to 13. The Giants kicked all field goals with Matt Barr, and they forced Roger Craig into a fumble at the very end of the game when the 49ers were running the clock out. LT forced a fumble, and the rest is history.

They brought Matt Barr on for a field goal to win the game. And I'm looking at the play-by-play. Lawrence Taylor, because Lawrence Taylor didn't force the fumble. He recovered the fumble by Roger Craig as the 49ers were running out the clock. But that is, that's a game that, by the way, exists on YouTube. And it is an unbelievable football game. I mean, Madden during that game is with Summerall is saying, we are watching flat out one of the best football games.

And it was 15 to 13 that you can watch. These are two unbelievable football teams playing incredible defense. You know, both defenses were so good. And then you got the Super Bowl. Yeah. And Buffalo was supposed to win it. And as you said, it was the first of their, you know, four straight losses. The next year was to the skins.

And that's the, you know, that's the team. The bills, when you've, there's that 30 for 30. It's called something for, um, in a row or I don't know, four for, I forget what it is. It's about the Bills teams of that era losing four in a row. And in that 30 for 30, they say that the best opponent was Washington, that that was the one they had no shot in, even though they got blown out by the Cowboys.

In the second Super Bowl against the Cowboys in Atlanta, I think they actually had the lead in that game at halftime. I could be wrong. the skins, they got blown out from the beginning. I mean, that final score in that Super Bowl is not reflective of how bad. Skins were up, you know, 37 to 10, or 37 to 3 or whatever it was, and they ended up winning 3724. I was at that Super Bowl in Minneapolis,

and then I was at the Bills Super Bowl the following year. I saw two of the four Bill's losses, live because I was in the Rose Bowl in Pasadena the next year, not because we went out to see the game, but because we were in Vegas for the Super Bowl, and my buddy and I won so much money on the Saturday before the Super Bowl that our marketing host, I had asked if they had any Super Bowl tickets,

and she had said no. And then when we got up a bunch of money, they came up with four tickets for us to the Super Bowl. And there were eight of us there. And six of us went and the other two, you know, figured it out when they got there. But we flew over that next morning to L.A. And that was the Michael Jackson halftime Super Bowl.

That's cool. And the Cowboys rolled. And I was sitting with Buffalo fans, of course, rooting for the bills because I hated the Cowboys. Yeah. Oh, you know what? I've got a story about Belichick for today's show, because I talked about this on radio. I saw somebody sent me this tweet from Mike Sando. Mike is, I think, with the NFL network. I don't know. Something like that.

No, I think he's with the athletic. Okay, he's with the athletic. Somebody sent this to me and said, you would probably agree with this. So because we have a rematch of Seattle and New England, the last time they played 11 years ago, Super Bowl. 49 was the Malcolm Butler interception of Russell Wilson at the one-yard line with 20 seconds to go in the game when all Seattle had to do was hand the

ball off to Marshawn Lynch and they would have won the game. But you and I were doing the show together at the time and I came in the next day and I said man, Bill Belichick the greatest coach maybe ever, did he

get effing lucky? He completely missed. that he needed to call timeouts on defense. And so let me just cut to the chase. Belichick had two timeouts left. It was second and goal at the one after a Marshawn Lynch run to the one. The clock was running, and the Seahawks were stunned that New England wasn't calling a timeout because they had two left, and the obvious idea would be to preserve time if Seattle scores

so that Brady's got time to answer. and they'd be down three if Seattle scored and made the extra point. But he didn't call the timeout. And on the next play, Russell Wilson threw the interception to Malcolm Butler. And Belichick went on this long, you know, two-minute thing about how he noticed that Pete Carroll seemed disorganized. The Seahawks seemed frantic and a little bit panicked. And he didn't want them to get more organized. And so he let it go.

And then they intercepted the pass. And so Mike Sando tweeted something after somebody had essentially said, watch the Belichick explanation of the Super Bowl 11 years ago. The guy's a genius. I mean, I saw Bill Simmons. If you want to know why Bill Belichick is

a first ballot Hall of Famer, listen to this explanation. He's a genius. And I said to you on this show, I'm like, I don't care if he's a genius or not. It's one thing to predict that maybe they'll run a bad play because they're disorganized. But you can't possibly predict an interception.

Like, that's just not, who predicts an interception? Like, who predicts that because they're a little bit disorganized, they're going to drop back and throw it right to our guy? Like, that is a big reach for anybody to actually believe that. And, of course, he came up with that after the fact, because I think, I mean, you have to call the time out there. So Sando, you know, retweeted somebody basically complimenting, you know, Belichick on his incredible intuition 11 years ago.

And he said there were no obvious signs of Seattle being under stress. Seattle had a timeout left. You got to call defensive timeouts there. So Brady has time for a rebuttal drive. The broadcast shows Pete Carroll chewing gum with 20 seconds left on the play clock. Seattle aligns for this fateful play. He's being sarcastic with 10 seconds to go on the play clock. No panic.

Looks routine. Al Michaels then says on the broadcast that Seattle is bleeding the clock. And then not that, oh my God, Seattle's disorganized. Seattle didn't snap the ball with one second to go. They snapped the ball with five to go on the play clock. It was routine. It was a great play to save the game, but not a great decision. to bank on that happening at the expense of time for Brady if it didn't work out,

which is, I think, 100% true. And yeah, I'm arguing with Bill Belichick and saying that he did something incorrect, which is insane for a lot of you, I understand, but Sandow's right. Like the tradeoff of, you know, Malcolm Butler, the chances that Malcolm Butler was going to make this great change of possession play. Because remember, even if Seattle makes a bad play, okay, it's third and goal from the one, or it's third and goal from the three. And they still have two more downs. And now they're only 20 seconds left on the clock instead of a minute left on the clock.

And if they had scored a touchdown, Belichick would have looked terrible. But Seattle will pale the mouth by not running Marshawn Lynch into the end zone. Right. I think you're right. For a touchdown. Yeah. It's just interesting, this rematch, and people are looking back, and there's like these tweets going, Bill Belichick, not in the Hall of Fame, is a first ballot. How about when he did this? The genius did this. The genius nearly butchered the end of a game preventing his team from having a chance to win the game. But they didn't lose the game. They won the game because Malcolm Butler made an unbelievable play after a team.

terrible call. All right, you had a question for me. We'll finish up with that after these words from a few of our sponsors. The big games almost here, and there's no better way to cash in during America's biggest sporting event than with prize picks where it always feels good to be right. And since the big games right around the corner, that also means it's your last chance to get into the football action before next season. So close the season out right with prize picks by getting $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. Prize Picks is fun. It's exciting. It's a game of skill, and it's so easy to play. Prize Picks will present you with stat projections, and all you've got to do is pick more or less.

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even when I'm down here in 60-degree temperatures in Cocoa Beach. But you know what? I found I found a cigar bar down here. I found a cigar bar the other day, and it was pretty good, and I was talking to the owner, and we were talking about cigar bars, and he was very familiar with Shelley's back room.

And basically this guy said, that is the way a cigar bar should be. He's been up, he's been in the district a number of times on business, always stops at Shelley's when he's there, you know, has a smoke, and, you know, basically said his cigar bar, which he just opened up recently, and he hopes someday to be as good as Shelly's back room because Shelly's is the gold standard. It's the place all around the country that other cigar bars should strive to be.

You can find out more. You can find out what their food menu is, their custom blend beef, their cigar menu, their drink menu, it's all available for you to look at at shelley's backroom.com. When you just corrected me on Mike Sando, writing for the athletic, where did I say he wrote? I said he was with the NFL.com, I think. Did he used to write for NFL.com? I don't think so. Because a friend of mine texted me, and I can't actually find it, but it wasn't that long ago.

And he texted me because I had a guest on that I misidentified in terms of the publication. that they wrote for. And he said, do you pay attention to where your guests work? He's like, it seems like all the time. You're like, I think he's with CBS Sports or ESPN or the athletic. And you know what? Like, I don't, I pay attention when I have a guest on.

I probably just made a mistake in that particular instance. I mean, I always immediately go to their Twitter and identify them with. Yeah, you're very diligent about it. But I do think, like, the business, especially for writers, right? More so than even, you know, broadcasters. Every, and we talked about the post situation last week. But it seems like, you know, even guests and people that you have on that you're familiar with, you better check where they are because there's a lot of movement, a lot of movement in that business.

And there has been for a while now, right? Yes, yes, absolutely. But you know who doesn't move? You don't. That's right. You know, somebody said to me last week on this very show, who'd have thought that I would have been the last one standing? Anyway, all right, you asked me a question before the show,

and I said, asked me that question during the show, and we can talk about it. So go ahead. Okay. I followed you on social. media, and I saw, you know, and I try to, I'm sure you don't notice, but whenever Team 980 posts a Kevin Sheehan item on X, I always like it if I see it. No, that's really sweet. That's sweet of you. Following me on social media, there's not a whole lot of activity. You would agree with that, right? Unless I'm on the air and I'm promoting

things. But I do follow your radio station. Right. They tweet out a lot. Yes. Right. And when they tweet out stuff from your show, I always hit light. Right. Even if I think it's idiotic, I still tweet like. Because

I support my teammate. Well, let me, you know that there's some reciprocity to that. Even if I don't agree with the column, I retweeted. I've been, I've been criticized and I've noticed retweeting your columns every once in a while. Why did you

retweet that column? You can't possibly agree with it. And I want to respond by saying, I haven't actually read it yet. But it's Tommy and I'm going to retweet whatever he writes. Unless it's something that you tell me in advance, you may want to read this before retweeting. You've done that before. Yes, you've done that before. And I certainly understand when those situations come up, but I've always been of the philosophy. And I used to do this when we were on the radio together. I used to retweet stuff from the other shows. Yeah.

Yeah. I do, too, I think. Because I think that's being a good teammate. Yes. So. Right. You know, for the question. For somebody that spends a lot of time on Laverro Island by himself, man, you,

you love to stroke yourself for being a great teammate. It's interesting how that works. out. Okay, the question was, I saw on social media that you raised, that somebody, that you suggested the idea that you would be just fine if the commanders with their first pick in this draft, drafted an offensive player and not a defensive player. I figured that was a mistake, but that's a little bit insane. No.

So I did a call segment the other day because, you know, it is kind of time for our team to look ahead to free agency in the draft. And what you're seeing this week is you're just seeing an absolute avalanche of mock drafts. I mean, they're coming from everywhere. I had Josh Edwards from CBS Sports. Maybe he was, maybe he's not with CBS Sports anymore. Maybe he moved somewhere else that I got it wrong. No, I had Josh Edwards from CBS Sports on the show yesterday on the podcast. And he had a mock draft out recently, so we talked a lot of draft.

But what I asked callers was, how upset would you be if Washington used number seven overall on an offensive player? Because I think that, you know, the feeling is, and by the way, it's my feeling too, they better fix this defense. They have a lot of activity coming around the defense. defense. It's started with the coordinator. And by the way, now some new coaches that'll be replacing some of the old defensive coaching staff guys. But look, they need A-plus players. They have two on their team right now. This is going to piss some people off. Jaden Daniels and Laramie Tunsell are two, what I would call A-plus, Blue Chip major impact players. Terry is a very good player.

I'd put him at an A level, not an A plus level. And they don't have many A level players. So he is the top of the next tier. But you have to add, you've got to have A plus players. You've got to have major impact players on your team. And if the highest impact player on your draft board, when you get to pick at number seven, is an offensive skill position player,

let's just say a receiver, or it's Jeremiah Love, the running back from Notre Dame, and that player is way above in your evaluation. Any defensive player, then I have no issue at all with them selecting Jeremiah Love or a receiver. I mean, you know. Well, I do. Okay. Well, I don't. So tell me why you do.

Because they need defensive help. I mean, the quarter, if we're going to, to believe what we saw the first year, and I'm going to still continue to do that. The quarterback is the eraser. He takes care of the deficit

in other areas. Now, he wasn't a miracle worker when the limited offensive players that they had last year were all hurt. When healthy, their offensive skill players were limited.

Okay. I mean, they don't fit that that category that you just mentioned. So, so I think that they could probably patch together an offense that Jane Daniels can roll up points on, especially if the defense is much better than it has been the past two years. You're the owner you walk into the draft room. I'm the GM. So are we taking a defensive player? I don't know, boss, right now, Jeremiah Love is on the board, and if he's still there at 7,

he's the number one player in the draft on our board. And he... I'm a believer of drafting for need. And I... And you've seen what's happened in Detroit with Jemir Gibbs, Atlanta offensively with Robinson, what Philly, you know, got from Barclay... Hold on. Are Detroit in the playoffs?

No, they're not. But let me also just throw out... a name that you love. You know how much Derek Henry impacts the Baltimore offense, because you love yourself from Derek Henry. But he's a free agent. And the defensive players that we really liked a lot just got taken. And the one that's on the board that we kind of like,

we can't promise what we're trying to trade back and acquire more picks, but no one wants to trade up, the best player by far is, Jeremy Love. Jeremiah Love. You can't tell me with six players picked that you can't find a defensive impact player. Why? With that seven pick.

Why? There are lots of times, you know, you and I've talked to general managers on the air before, and they'll tell you sometimes, you know, everybody looks at a guy that went in the first round, doesn't mean that he had a first round grade on him. A lot of times these drafts, we only have 10, 15 players with first round grades, and then we only have five, three or four, or five, that are kind of what we deem to be A-plus can't-miss guys. But they're picking seven.

If a can't-miss guy is there at seven, and he's the last one. That argument doesn't hold up when you're picking seven. There will be top flight defensive players available. Oh, your draft expert now. Who are those players? No, I'm not an expert. I'm a common-sense expert. Okay. First of all, nobody knows anything about the draft.

let's first start there because it's the thing that even they don't know about. So why not take the defensive guy even who cares where he's rated on your board? Do you like them? Take them because you don't know any more than anybody else does. I'm not saying you. I'm just saying the teams. I'm just saying that if they ended up taking a Jeremiah Love or, you know, a Carnell Tate, you know, because those players were just so, so above.

the defensive players. I wouldn't have a problem with it. Because I'll tell you what, Tommy, as much as Jaden in this time last year, we're talking about him elevating everybody, the whole thing, they still need just another playmaker. They don't have enough. What are they going to do if Debo's gone? They got to the NFC title game. Yes, they did.

Without a second playmaker after Terry. And led by their offense. You're right. You're right. I mean, A quarterback Ackler was pretty important. Echler was pretty important. I know, very important, but no

I mean, no one's going to put him in that A plus tier or that A tier even. No, you're right. Of players. You're right. So I just think that if you can improve the defense significantly, you can patch together an offense again like you did two years ago. Look, I hope that the best player on their board by Miles is a defensive player.

I hope it's, you know, Ruben Bain or Caleb Downs or David Bailey or somebody like that. Because... Exactly. So I hope it's like a really good defensive player and that, you know, when they get to the rest of their picks,

all of the players on the board are defensive players. And I also hope long before we get to the draft, they've added three, you know, potential impact starting level players. on defense minimum. And look, they could go get Alec Pierce Pierce, as a wide receiver from the Colts. They could get Brees Hall from the Jets

as another running back as another playmaker. They're, you know, they've got money. They've got some room. They've got some ability in free agency to add some impact players. But I, knowing nothing about these drafts and never knowing anything about these drafts and no one else knowing anything about them,

I think I would prefer them to err on the side of the player that they think has the best chance of becoming an A-plus player because they don't have enough of them. You know, I was thinking about it when I said it. You know, the 49ers this year had one of these overachieving years with all of the injuries that they had. But my guy, do the 49ers have a lot of A-plus players? Like, even with... And they've had years to build up that roster. Yes.

But even with the loss of A-plus players, Nick Bosen, Fred Warner on defense, they still have Trent Williams, A-plus player. Christian McCaffrey, A-plus player. George Kittle, even though he got hurt at the very end, A-plus player. I mean, hell, Joanne Jennings is a receiver, as a blocking receiver, is certainly an A-level player. Like, they still, you know, have two to three times what we have. we need some of those players that impact games the most. I'm not saying you can't win with a well-rounded team and a lot of B-plus and a lot of A-plice and a lot of A-players, but man, it's harder to do it that way, although the most important position to have an A-plus player at,

I think Washington's got covered. I think they still do. I think they still do, too. He's just got to stay upright next year. All right. I've got one more thing that I want to tell you about. It's a show that I pushed on you last year. You haven't watched it. That's fine. That I finally got to season two on and I hate it. That's next after these words from a few of our sponsors. Have you ever fallen for a scam or know someone who has? Well, the holidays are all about finding the perfect gift. This time of year, however, not every deal is what it seems. Gamers are getting more creative to trick people into sharing their payment information through methods like fake shopping sites and giveaways that are too good to be true.

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So Tommy, I have binged, I guess, over about a two or three day period, season two of Landman, which is a show that I talked about here last spring, maybe, that I got into. I know you don't have Paramount, so you haven't watched it, but it's a Taylor Sheridan show, Billy Bob Thornton plays, you know, an oil, you know, Midlands, Texas, Midland, Odessa, Texas, you know, oil guy, landman running the oil fields for a big oil company. He's excellent in it.

Season one was so good. Season two, and I am through now six episodes, six episodes or two left. I'm through seven episodes or two left. It's terrible. It's absolutely so disappointing. There are parts of this show that are unwatchable in season two. Do I like Allie Larder?

Who doesn't like Allie Larder? She is a drop dead 12. I mean, even at 50 years old, she is spectacular looking. Demi Moore, you can have Demi Moore, and she's terrible in this show, in my opinion. There is a storyline between Billy Bob Thornton's son Cooper, Billy Bob Thornton and Ali Larder's son in the show Cooper,

and this widowed wife that is so slow and so poorly acted, I am now finding myself fast forwarding through the scenes with Cooper and Ariana, I think, is her name in the show. It's so bad that part of the show. The dialogue, Tommy, is just too quick, too quick. glib, too unrealistic at this point. Everything's over the top. I'm so disappointed.

I had friends of mine that said, you know, did you get through season two yet? And I said, not yet. And they said, you're going to like it. I hate it. I absolutely hate it. I can't believe how poorly it's been done. Andy Garcia is in it.

He plays, you know, basically a big, you know, drug cartel head who's in, you know, a lot of other businesses, including being investors and their investors in a lot of different businesses. I mean, I've always liked Andy Garcia. He's not very good in this. I can't believe that this is what they came up with for season two. I don't know.

Maybe they rushed it. Oh, what's his face is in it? The old guy, Sam Elliott. Sam Elliott plays Billy Bob Thornton's, who lost his wife, who apparently was a crazy woman, and now he's moved in with this family, and his storyline is odd. I don't know, the only thing I can say is Billy Bob Thornton is still great,

and man, is Ali Larder just drop-dead gorgeous? And so is the daughter in this who plays a TCU freshman, but she's actually 28 in real life. and she's a gorgeous girl too, but I don't know how many of you have watched Landman season two, but so disappointed. I'm going to fight my way through these final two episodes, Tommy, but it's not good.

It's not good, and I'll find myself, I bet, fast forwarding through some of these scenes that are so slow and so poorly acted. The guy who plays his son and soon to be, daughter-in-law are, I think they're terrible actors. They could have found, I think, people that were better. But I'm not a casting director. So, season one was great.

Totally worth it. There are some episodes in season one that are breaking bad-esque. That's a compliment for those of you who are breaking bad people. Season two, not so much. So what are you up to these days? You went to an art museum today? Yeah, I went to an art museum in Varel Beach, about an hour and 15 minutes down the road.

It was nice. You know, I mean, my wife is an artist, so we go to art museums, and I have an appreciation for him. I always feel good when I'm in an art museum. Sometimes I don't know what I'm looking at, but I always feel good. And then we had...

Is it you get a warm feeling? Like, you just, are you happy? Content? Relaxed? Yeah. Is it relaxing? I like to see people create stuff. Yeah.

So, I mean, I enjoy that. Then we had lunch on an outdoor restaurant on the Indian River. Mm-hmm. And then we headed back here for me to do the podcast. Two TV recommendations. Okay. They're both miniseries. Amazon Prime Steel.

Okay. Who's in that? I think... Who's in that? It's a British. It's a British series. Okay. I had to give in to my Brit band because I'm running out of series.

And the other one is on Netflix. The Beast in Me is another mini-series. Okay. What's that? I recommend both those. The Beast in Me is about a writer who winds up living next to and a very eccentric, a rich guy

and how their lives wind up intertwining. It's a thriller. Okay. It's really, it's pretty good. Jonathan Banks is in it. Oh. The guy who played Mike Germantrout. Of course.

He's from here. He's from here. He played this guy's father. Yeah, I had him as a guest once on my podcast. I know. So those are two recommendations. They're both mini-series. That was a great get, getting Jonathan Banks for your podcast.

Yeah, it was. That's a really good get. You know, I also had Joe Montania as a get. Yeah, I remember that too. Well, you also had the wire, you know, creator. We had him on radio. David Simon. Yeah, David Simon we've had on.

You know, what, people ask me why I stopped doing the podcast, and one of the reasons, just one, but it was a big reason was I went through my roller dicks. I called in all my favorites. you know well who was on the who was on the list that you didn't get that you tried forever to get

I don't remember I mean I pretty much got everybody I wanted did you did you ever know who who I felt I had a connection you wanted Nameth right but I don't know Namath right and I didn't

you know it's funny it's funny because I guess I could approach Dusty I could have asked Dusty to get me Namath because Dusty is very tight. Duffy Baker was very tight with name. You remember

what a name dropper he was. Yeah, I know. People like to be around us. Yeah. So, and so it's put and Namath is my white whale. The one hero of my childhood who I've never met

or actually had any kind of connection with. Right. You know, Tom Seaver, I wound up hitting against Tom Seaver. Right. You told me about that. I spent the day with Willis Reed interviewing him for a sport magazine story when he was coaching the Nets

and Wes was coaching the bullet Well, you were his teammate Yeah And I spent I spent Many a couple of days with Muhammad Ali Right At training camp

So, name it is the only one You know, who's like that And I guess I could have tried to reach out to him But I want more of a connection Name it is wrong. I want more of a connection having them on the podcast. Right. So I may not ever get that. All right. Well, you had some really good people. Those shows probably are still out there somewhere, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're all online. Steinberg I had as a guest. The Super Ages. Oh, yeah. I remember that. We had him, well, we had him on for a couple of Super Bowl radio radio radio show appearances. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was always, you know, where we had some big heavy hitters. Sometimes, you know, you had to take two or three guys that could barely, you know, conjugate a verb to get one of those really good guests.

But we did it. I mean, you know, we had Floyd Mayweather on that one time during Super Bowl Radio Row. Brooklyn Decker, too. We won't regale everybody with that story again. That's been overdone over the years. All right. Good job. Anything else?

I guess we'll get your Super Bowl pick on Thursday. I'll have that ready for you. Thank you. Back tomorrow. I can't wait for the day, wouldn't you? And everyone like you leaves this place. You might want to think that through. Because if I'm gone, that means the oil's gone.

If the oil's gone, that means the money's gone. And that means you're gone.