The Kevin Sheehan Show - Importance Of Chase's OTA Post

Episode Date: May 31, 2022

Kevin and Thom today on a ton of topics including shoes and Top Gun/Maverick to start. Then, why it was important for Chase Young to show up for OTAs. Some Commanders' stadium talk, NBA, Nats, and Thom's celebrity encounter on Saturday night.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheon Show. Here's Kevin. All right, I'm here. Tommy's here. We took the day off yesterday.

I hope everybody had a nice weekend. Tommy was just telling me before the start of the show as I was delayed because my computer quasi crashed. And he said, you know, what would really help is if you had two of everything, whenever I buy something, I buy two of everything, especially when I like it. I would assume that it's only if you like it that you buy two of everything. Yes. Like if there's a particular shirt or something that I like, I buy two of them.

Give me the most recent example. Well, a T-shirt. A T-shirt I bought from a Mark's brother's movie. Uh-huh. Okay. Duck suit, the second greatest comedy of all time. I know eventually you like a T-shirt, you wear it, it's going to wear out, you know, it's going to wind up with holes in it, and T-shirts, you know, you wear them until they fall off. But eventually it will fall off, and then I have my backup.

Okay, so that's the most recent. What is the thing that you buy two of most often? So T-shirts is your number one. What about shoes? I think that when I find a really good pair of shoes, I'm always disappointed that when they wear out, I'm not talking about nice shoes. I'm not talking about nice, you know, on the expensive side shoes, dress shoes.

I'm talking about, you know, slip-ons or, you know, tennis shoes or golf shoes in my case. I always realize when the shoes are basically shot that they're not available anymore. and I get upset that I didn't get two of them. So I know where you're coming from. Yeah, but I don't do it. I should start doing that. Okay, this ought to be funny. How many shoes do you have?

I mean, I'm not, you know, I'm not Marcos. How many do you have? Like, how many pairs of shoes do I have? Well, because... In your closet, in my closet right now... Now, in my closet isn't where all of my shoes are because there are some shoes that I have that are in the mudroom. There are also some shoes that I have in my locker at my golf course.

There are also some shoes that I have in my car. God, you already have more shoes than I do. Just that description. I would guess that I have, I would guess that I have 30 pairs of shoes. Oh, get out of here. That's not a lot, is it? You might not be Marcos, but you're an offspring. Hold on.

I think 30 would be right because I'm thinking about my closet right now. I have in my closet, on one side, I have kind of my dress in casual shoes. And on the other side, I have kind of like I've got basketball shoes, which I don't use anymore, because I don't play like I used to. Tennis shoes, there's some, there are no golf shoes in there. But there are a lot of, like, slip-on casual shoes. I would say there are 15 pairs there. I'm going to revise that to like 24, maybe 20 total pairs.

20 total pairs. Actually, that might be light. I'll go with 24 total pairs of shoes. Is that a lot? Okay. That would seem like a lot to me. Maybe it's not a lot to most people. It seems like a lot now that you're saying it, because I don't wear most of them.

I don't. I have a pair of dresser. shoes. I have two pairs of sneakers. The ones I wear, because I order two at a time, the ones I wear, and the ones that are in the box still new that I'll wear when these wear out. And I have a pair of, what do you call those things, clogs that. Oh God, they must look great on your feet. I have a pair of crocs that I wear around the house or in the pool or something like that. That's it. That's it. That's it. You know, the truth is I probably only see, I think part of my problem is I don't really throw shoes out. The other part of my problem, I'll get back to my total shoe count here in a second.

One of the other reasons I've thought about buying two at various times over the years is that my sons will take my shoes. And then I don't have those shoes anymore. Perfect example. Recently, I haven't told you this. I don't think I've told you this. Maybe I have. I've really gotten into pickleball. I really enjoy pickleball.

Good for you. My wife is a big pickleball player, and I've occasionally played, and I enjoy it. Yeah, it's a lot of fun, and I got, I ordered online a pair of shoes maybe two months ago, Under Armour tennis tennis, tennis, racquet sport kind of shoes. and I really liked the shoes. Well, when my son from Penn State graduated came home, I couldn't find the shoes all of a sudden. Where are the shoes?

Well, he had the shoes on his feet. And by the way, had had them on his feet for a few days, and they no longer had the new look to them. And I don't mind. I don't like new, new looking shoes. But I'm like, oh, that's where they are. Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry, I should have told you. And immediately I said to myself, he's going to keep taking these shoes,

and I should have gotten two pairs of these shoes. Now, he is leaving on a trip here in two days, and I told him specifically, do not take those tennis shoes, the pickleball shoes, because then I'm going to have to get a new pair. But what I think I might do anyway is just go order the same pair while I know they are available, rather than waiting a year and a half, and then loving the shoes and finding out that they don't make that shoe anymore. But here's the new shoe that's comparable to that shoe, but it's really not the same shoe.

Yeah, I'm with you. Back to my shoe count. If I have 24 pairs, a lot of them are just because I save them. And so they don't get worn. I would say in my rotation of shoes, I have about eight pairs of shoes. you know, if you consider dress shoes in the rotation, because if I have to get dressed, I wear, I have a couple of pairs of dress shoes depending on what I'm wearing, and then I've got, you know, I've got a couple of pairs of golf shoes, just in case I end up playing somewhere where my golf shoes

aren't in my locker. So I would say eight to nine, ten pairs are in the normal rotation. But I've saved a lot of shoes that are in my closet. I could throw them out, probably, and not miss them at all. Well, that might be a good idea. Maybe. They all throw them out. You can donate them. Yeah, or donate. Yeah, no, no, we always donate to Goodwill.

Yeah, yeah, you donate them. Yeah, we always have. Have you ever bought a pair of used shoes? No, I don't think I've ever bought a pair of used shoes. No, have you? Have you ever bought clothes at a trip, have you ever bought thrift shop clothes? Um, oh, God, I'm sure in college I probably did, or, you know, shortly thereafter. I can't remember the last time I was in a thrift shop and bought clothes.

I'm just being honest. When's the last time you were in a thrift shop and then what did you buy? Well, last time we were in a thrift shop was probably about a year ago. But when we were down Florida, they got thrift shops all over Destin. And there's people with money in Destin. So the stuff in the trip shops are usually good quality. you know, because they donate stuff. And there's a lot of turnover in condos and stuff,

and furniture gets donated and stuff. So it's just a curiosity thing. You probably hate... I don't even remember what I... You probably hate half the people that donated stuff. You're probably wearing something from somebody that you would hate. I probably would. Yeah, but you're wearing his shirt anyway.

Well, that gives me a chance to walk a mile on their shoes. Yeah, right. Well, you got plenty of... You got plenty to pick from it, they're my shoes. You know, speaking of thrift shops, maybe the opposite of a thrift shop. No, a yard sale would be analogous to a thrift shop, right? A garage sale, a yard sale? Yeah, for clothing.

I bought stuff at yard sale. Well, when I used to collect beer trays and beer cans and beer signs, you know, sometimes ones would pop up at flea markets or garage sales. or things like that. But I remember in my younger days, buying overcoats at like the Salvation Army. Good quality overcoats. I mean, real high-level stuff, you know, and wearing them all the time. I used to talk, it's hard to find overcoats like that anymore. You don't find them anymore. But, you know, my younger days, I used to find them all the time.

Well, I was saying that I don't know if this would be the opposite of a thrift shop or a yard sale or a garage sale. But my wife, you know, pulled me along, not this past weekend, but last weekend, to an estate sale, which was at a very, very nice place on Massachusetts Avenue in Upper Northwest. And my wife being in real estate and being a designer also, like she, this stuff interests her. And she said, will you please come with me to this thing? because there are a couple of things that I know we're going to get, and I'm going to need you to help carry them.

When I arrived at this thing, there were already people in line. I mean, they were waiting in line on a Sunday morning to get into this place at 10 a.m. And it was, my wife misled me a little bit. She says, you've got to be here at 9. Well, I was late because I had gone to visit my mother that. morning and I was coming back and I was there at 9.30, not knowing that it opened at 10, and so I had to stand in line with her for a half an hour waiting for this thing to open. And when this thing opened, like she, she's on her phone showing me, now right when this opens,

I want you to go right to this item and pull the tag off of it. Then I want you to go right to this item and pull the tag off of it. And then I want, and she goes, and I'm going to go over here. And I said, are you serious? because the last time we did this, half the items ended up in the garage and never left the garage. And I'm just like, this is stupid. Buy the things that you know we can use right now,

if you really think we can use them. If you are just buying it because you think there might be a chance that we'll use it at some point, let's not do that. Let's not, you know, create clutter in the garage. We had items in our garage of our last house when we moved. I'm like, yeah, this thing was from like an estate sale two years ago. And I told her.

I told her she was never going to find a spot for this thing. She wouldn't listen to me. But, I mean, it wasn't one car load. I had to call my son to bring his vehicle over to get the rest of what I couldn't fit into my car. Now, nothing was super expensive, fortunately, because I thought it was. When I walked into this building, I'm like, oh, my God, what are, you know. But there were, there are people. there are people that live for these things.

Like this is a major Sunday activity. You know, going to estate sales. Have at it, and I have to say, there were a couple of things that she got that are already up in the house that we're in now, and they totally work. But there are a couple of things also in the garage. And my bet is they'll never leave the garage

until we move and sell that house. But estate sales. Nothing more boring. Beautiful Sunday. Okay. And I'm at an estate sale. Well, you know, you're, you got to serve somebody. You served your wife.

I think I would have been better off at a thrift shop. May have gotten something for me. All right. What are we doing here? So buy two of everything is the message. If you find something you really like, buy two of it. Yes, absolutely. My computer bogged down this morning and borderline crashed.

I've saved it. Tom said I should have had a laptop next to me. And there was a time in which I brought laptops everywhere I went, but I don't anymore. So, because I've got two desktops in this studio, as you know, at the two different workstations or recording areas. So usually I'm okay. I saw Top Gun, Maverick, on Saturday night. You haven't seen it yet. No, I have not. I've read the reviews, tremendous reviews. So did you like the original Top Gun? I mean, it's very rare that you get, you know, a sequel, you know, 36 years after the original. I mean, that's pretty rare, obviously.

Did you like the original Top Gun? You know, I was okay, but I recognize that for a generation of men who were not men at the time it came out, Yeah. It was a seminal movie. It's a movie that, in their minds, you know, to find their image of movie stars. So, I mean, like in the 70s, you know, we had the Godfather and Chinatown and things like that. I think for a generation, when did Top Gun come out in the 80s? Yeah, 1986.

Okay, I think for that generation, that was an important movie to young boys growing up. So it didn't have that impact on me, but it was okay. It's interesting because your take, I played golf with Tony on Sunday morning, and I said, I went to see the movie, and he said, really? He said, Anne Hornaday was on with me, and she said, it's great. And I was surprised. He goes, I didn't even think that the first movie was very good. And I said, really?

Because I think the first movie was great. And I think maybe, you know, we're just, you know, barely off. like the movies for you of the 1970s. Now look, there are some 1970s movies that I love too. But I kind of love them after the fact, not in real time, like you did. I mean, I can tell you this. The movie of the 70s for me is Jaws. You know, that's when I was of the age of being dropped off at the movie theater.

I've already told you this story. My friends and I, you know, would walk up to Jennifer Cinema and there was a bank on the second floor. We walked in through the bank and we walked right into the movie theater. They hadn't figured out that kids were sneaking in through the movie theater through the bank. And so I think I saw Jaws and Bad News Bears like probably a dozen times each. But for you, like Godfather and, you know, all of the legendary 70s movies, you saw them in real time. And Top Gun was a big, you know, I don't know if it was a seminal moment, but it was a very good. Look, in many ways, I think risky business was a big time 80s movie.

You know, it was Cruz's first movie. Yes. I have to admit, well, it was first big movie. Yeah. He was in a movie called Losing It Before that with Shelley Long about a group of teenagers that go to Mexico, which wasn't very good. Right. But I liked risky business when it came out. It was good.

A lot more than I did Top Gun. Rebecca D. Mornay. Yes. So anyway, I loved it. I, by the way, had no expectations. I had not been reading about this movie. Kara had been, she's like, we're going to go see the movie, and she wanted to see it. And she said, she's telling me, as we're driving over there, she's like, the reviews have been phenomenal.

I hadn't heard or read really anything about the movie. First of all, I was really, I don't know, it was, it was nice to see a movie. packed movie theater. And I saw it at the IMAX theaters in Georgetown, you know, right on K Street, and it was packed, packed on Saturday night, which I guess was night two of the movie. And Tommy, it was phenomenal. It was a great movie. And I'm reading this morning, early this morning about just the numbers it did in the first

weekend. I mean, all-time numbers. I mean, there are only a few movies that have ever had an opening weekend like this. And this is Cruises, you know, biggest opening Memorial Day weekend ever for him in one of his movies. I thought it was so well done. I thought he was great. You know, he's 59 years old. He's about to turn 60 years old. And he does all his own stunts. He's a pilot. He's a remarkable. He's a remarkable. He's a remarkable actor. He's just a remarkable actor who kind of gets lost in the shuffle because, A, he's been so prolific in so many movies, and B, he's kind of a little bit wacko, but they're all wacko. Yeah, they are. You know, I don't hold that against them. But do you really think

he gets lost in the conversation of the great actors of the last, you know, let's just call it, you know, 40 years, because, you know, risky business is probably, That's a difference between great movie stars and great actors. I don't think he's ever been not considered to be a great movie star. Right. But I think he's a great actor. I mean, I think born on a Fourth of July was a remarkable performance by him. I think Rain Man, he was terrific in Rain Man.

And his little piece that he did in Tropic Thunder, it's just absolutely hilarious. I'm a cruise fan You know But I just think we kind of take him for granted Because he's always there I mean the Mission Impossible How many have they made? The Mission Impossible movies are phenomenal

I Yeah You know you brought up a really good movie I think he was great in Rain Man I mean I think he was great in a few good men Which you know is one of those movies That keeps getting played over and over and over again I think he was really good in Jerry Maguire.

Like I'm just thinking of the movies that I liked. The firm. I loved them in the firm. The firm was cool. Well, yeah, I mean, you and I figured out that we were both, you know, in the same place at the same time, which is crazy. But I thought the firm was a good movie. I still think that a Pelican Brief is the best of his books that became movies. but like, I'm just pulling up his movie list now just to see.

Yeah, I mean, the Mission Impossible movies are excellent. The Color of Money, Tommy. He was great in that. Yes. Yes, and talk about a sequel that comes so far. He wasn't in the original, obviously. That was 1961, the Hustler. But the color of money came out and went, 86 or 85?

86. 86? Yeah. 1980s. The original was made in 61 with Paul Newman. Newman was in the sequel. But yeah, Tom Cruise was great as Vincent, I think his name was. All the right moves.

All the right moves. A great football movie. Great football movie. Yes. He was great. And he's got the whole Scientology thing going on that turns some people off. But as far as his work, I think he's. right up there. I mean, and

longensivity counts. And to be able to be at the top of your game this long, for this long, means a lot because a lot of these actors burn out, you know? So the day that we went Saturday night,

during the day, have you seen American Made? Yeah, it was okay. Oh, see, you know, that's a true story, you know, about Barry Seal. I know. who was a pilot who ended up running drugs and then running,

yeah, running drugs to the, Medellin cartel, you know, in the early days of Pablo Escobar, and then started running guns to the Contras, you know, and then was eventually assassinated. But I thought he was excellent in that movie. But anyway, let me just get back to Maverick. So Top Gun Maverick. It was really, it was a great movie.

It is, you know, action-packed, but also, you know, You know, there is a love story. There's an emotional twist with, you know, remember Goose, who was his, you know, best friend and who, you know, unfortunately, he couldn't eject from the plane. And he's lived with that his whole life. And then Goose's son is in the movie. I'm not going to spoil it at all. And Miles Teller plays him. Miles Teller was in that movie War Dogs, which was really good.

And then Jennifer Connolly in this movie. Oh my God. Really? Oh, yeah. Is she as hot as Kelly? Oh, I was never a big Kelly McGillis fan to begin with. And by the way, poor Kelly McGillis. I don't know if you've seen pictures of her.

I know. I know. I mean, it's really. We're better off not discussing that. Yeah, it's not surprising that she was not in the remake 36 years later. Jennifer Connolly, who I have always thought was beautiful and underrated. Like, I thought she was incredible and a beautiful. Mind with Russell Crow, which was a great movie.

The movie that every once in a while, I will quote from The Dilemma with Vince Vaughn and Kevin James, she was great in. That movie is very underrated, funny Winona Ryder's in it, Channing Tatum's in it. Channing Tatum comes in. The intervention scene from The Dilemma is one of my favorite scenes of any movie of all time. Of course, it's gambling-centric. But she was great in that.

And I don't know. Maybe it's me, but I kind of feel like she's gone away and that there hasn't been a lot of Jennifer Connolly in anything in recent years. And somebody will probably tell me, dude, she won an award for something three years ago. Fine. I'm just telling you, I haven't seen her in anything. She's 51 years old. And she looks great. And she was great in this movie.

And I would imagine that it is like a recessive. event for her professionally. If I'm right and she hasn't been doing anything recently, I'm looking at her, you know, her recent movies. I'm not familiar with many of them. I didn't see American pastoral. Was that good? I didn't see it.

I think that was a big movie a few years ago. But anyway, she was phenomenal. Val Kilmer's in the movie, although briefly in the movie. And John Ham's in the movie. It was excellent. Recommend it. I was surprised. Maybe it was that I had no expectations going in, but I loved it. And when it eventually comes out and it's available, I'll watch it again for sure. It'll be one of those movies that for years to come. Ed Harris, by the way, is in it too. It'll be one of those movies that for years, you probably, when it's on, you'll watch it. It was that good of a story, good storyline, great acting. Cruise was great. Everybody was great in it. God, man, it killed it. I'm probably not going to go. I'm probably not going to go see it in the movie theater,

but I'll look forward to seeing it when it shows up on my screen at home. Okay. All right. Speaking of the movie theater, did you have any nervousness about COVID? You know, every time you've asked me this over two years now, I knock on wood before I say it, because I don't want to be the guy that says I haven't really, I've done everything everybody's asked me to do, but I don't think for one minute I've ever

sweated it during these two years. And I don't want to be the guy that says that and then, you know, comes down with a really bad case of it. I'm vaccinated. I'm boosted. I'm probably due for the fourth Pfizer shot. I think I am based on when I got the booster. You didn't consider it in a pack movie here? I'm not criticizing you. Not even for a second. Not even for a second. And the only reason I'm asking you is because one of my buddies who I went on the Hall of Fame trip with last week. Right. Tested positive for COVID over the weekend. Okay.

Well, you probably had, did you get a rapid test at least? I tested this morning. Okay. Rapid? Well, the ones that you get at home, yeah. So was it negative? And it was negative. Yeah, okay.

You would have told me. I know. I had no system. It was negative. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you can have it and have no symptoms. And he thinks he actually thinks he got it Thursday afternoon after we left.

He went to a funeral service Thursday afternoon. Okay. And there's somebody else. His brother went to the funeral service as well, and he has it. So that's where he probably thinks he contracted it. Right. But yeah, I took a COVID test today the first time, and I don't remember how long. And it tested negative.

If I had a packed movie theater, it would still bother me. In a movie theater with 30 people in it, I wouldn't think twice about it. You mean like when you used to go to the movies after our show was over by yourself? Yes, yes. There's nothing like going to a movie in the middle of the day. It feels like you're stealing something. You and Andy used to talk about how great it was to just go to a movie in the middle of the day. and you'd be like the only person in the theater.

I've done that before. I love that. The sun be shining outside. You go inside this shelter, and the wall could be ending outside. You wouldn't have a clue. And then all of a sudden you walk out and there's the world again. Yeah. I love to do that.

I don't have to done that in a long time. Are you kind of surprised? Let me just say, the only thing that occurred to me in the movie theater when we got done and we got up and I realized how crowded the theater was really when the movie was over more so than when it started because we got in there well before I mean we got in there even before the previews started and the previews were great there's some good movies that it would appear coming out but um it was when the movie was over and by the way there was a not a standing ovation but there was a lot of you know clapping like you could tell this one was a home run for just about everybody in the in it and and anyway that's when I realized it was crowded

and I and I thought the thing that occurred to me was I think this is great that people feel totally comfortable now and were you know this that that would be one of those signs that things are you know totally back to normal although I think people have basically been living you know their normal lives for you know almost a year now not longer, or most people have, not everybody. Yeah. But anyway, you know, we have some sports stuff to talk about. Chase Young was at OTAs today. Apparently he's going to be made available to the media tomorrow.

I also want to tell you about a conversation I had on radio this morning with the appropriations chair in Maryland. And I think that the FedEx Field site, in terms of what's being. planned for that site are a lot different than most people think. So I want to get to that. I also want to weigh in on what I thought were two incredibly exciting and compelling NBA playoff games over the weekend, including Tommy, one of the best performances, honestly, I think I've ever seen on Friday night from Jimmy Butler. So we'll get to that and, you know, a little bit more when we come back right after these words from a few of our sponsors.

So the OTAs are starting out in Ashburn, Tommy. today the second set of OTAs. Chase Young is there and Montez Sweat per Ben standing is also there. Now Chase Young is of course not going to participate in any on-field work. He's still recovering from his ACL tear. Montez Sweat who Ron Rivera after the first day of OTAs last week said, yeah, Montez will likely be here tomorrow, but he didn't show up at all last week. But they're both there. What do you think about Chase Young showing up for his first OTA day. Well, at least he didn't make his coach look like a complete idiot and not show up again. I mean, since Ron Rivera in the off-season kind of made it a big deal, you know, which we had said all along about his absence last year. And he referred to this wake-up call, a bit of an

awakening as he referred to as Chase's struggles last year. So at least he didn't make his coach like an idiot by not showing up again this year. And it's good that he showed up. I mean, it's important for, I think it was very important for Ron Rivera that these guys show up. If they stiff them again, then he would, then he would have looked like a fool. You know what? That's honestly the best point that's been made. The news broke right at the end of the show, or like in the 8 o'clock hour, and I just

said, you know, it's good that he's there. Like, he should have been there last year. He shouldn't have been the only one out of 90. I know they're voluntary. You know, stop tweeting me about voluntary and making a big deal out of nothing. I'm not actually making a big deal out of it. But if he is a true team captain and he missed last year and then had a shitty season before he got injured, then he should be there this year, even if it's just symbolic because he's not participating.

But your point is the best one because if he stiffed his coach, even if he didn't know it, which of course he would have, somebody should have told him that his coach pretty much implied that Chase Young understood it and would be there this year. If he stiffed his coach for nine straight OTA days or six if they canceled the last three, it would have made Rivera look like a total fool, total fool. Yeah.

So it's good that he's there. Yeah. It's good for the coach. for something that doesn't matter, him showing up mattered. I agree. You know, meantime, I wanted to mention that I think this conversation slash interview that I did this morning on radio at 8 a.m. So it would be in the third hour, you can find it on the Team 980.com or the Odyssey app with this guy, Ben Barnes, who is the chair of the appropriation.

Committee for the State of Maryland. The Appropriations Committee is essentially the committee that handles things like new stadiums. So he's really the guy in Maryland. And I had him on the show this morning because I kind of felt like we've been so dialed in on the Virginia thing. And the Virginia thing may not pass tomorrow if it gets voted on at all tomorrow. There certainly seems to be momentum in the direction of it's not going to, Virginia's not going to, um, approve the roughly 300 million, which might be less than $300 million now, for Snyder's new stadium in Woodbridge or Dumfries or, you know, Loudoun County, Fairfax County, wherever. And so the momentum, you know, for Virginia's kind of been dying.

And it's like, okay, what you've said all along, it's going to be built in Landover, right on the same site, on the land that Snyder owns. It's 200 acres, by the way, I found out this morning. 200 acres he owns inside the Beltway. You know, that, I don't care where inside the Beltway it is. valuable land. And so I had the guy on to kind of give the Maryland perspective. First of all, big picture, they want the stadium there. Now, they're not going to give him any money for the stadium, but the $400 million that, you know, Hogan and the state have committed towards

infrastructure isn't nothing. And that's what this guy really wanted to get across. He's like, look, there are two, there are multiple things going on. at that location. He said, we have a major real estate investment company that is investing a billion dollars in a project at that, you know, location in the Landover-Largo location. And it's the same builder that built one Loudon, you know, out in Loudoun County, which is, you know, a huge area of bars and restaurants and retail. And they're going to do the same thing there and he said, we're doing that with or without the stadium. They're going to...

Right. This project, the money is not necessarily tied to what the commanders are going to do. Exactly. They're doing this project. First of all, it's not a billion dollars from the state. It's a billion dollars from a developmental company. They're building something, you know, that's going to be, you know, similar to one Loudon out in Loudoun County. And so the area is going to be transformed to begin with, whether it's with. the stadium there or not. Secondly, a lot of their 400 million is going to all the infrastructure to make it easy to get in and get out of this new developed area, which by the way also already includes a huge hospital and there's going to be a huge cancer award and research

center out there. They're transforming this entire area and he just said it's going to be the perfect place for a stadium. He's like, what do we? talking about here? You're inside the Beltway. You're seven miles from downtown Washington versus Woodbridge where he's going to build his own city. As you said, good luck

with that. I mean, he can't even keep a beer sponsor. So, I think people have had this vision of FedEx 2.0 being they're just going to slap a stadium next to the existing one and it's going to have the same issues. But that's not

what this guy said. He said, The development that's going to go on there, you're going to get off the metro or you're going to park your car and you're going to walk down, you're going to walk three quarters of a mile, maybe a little bit less, down a boulevard of bars and restaurants. And he made the point. He said, if the walk is nice and it's what it's going to be, you know, six, seven years from now, people won't mind that they're walking. You know, he said, by the way, the new stadium would be closer to two metro stops now on the blue line. and he said, you know, you're talking about a three-quarters of a mile walk, but there'd probably be a lot of stopping along the way. And then, you know, on the way home as well. And he said, they're going to build, you know, ways in and out of that area

that are going to be far different than they've been. You know, he acknowledged that it was a disaster what they did 30 years ago. But he said, I said, you know, so the state of Maryland wants it. And he said, yeah, we want it. We definitely want it. Yeah. I agree with that, and you said, and the important thing is that money is earmarked for this project, whether their stadium is going there or not.

That's right. They're not giving a dime to Snyder. That's a big difference from Virginia, where the stadium is the linchpin of this whole project that they're talking about in Virginia. So that's a big difference right there. By the way, you know, and you talk about the walk. I've always said that if there's a way to shorten that walk from the metro stop or to create a people mover or something like that. But he's right about if you make that walk an attractive one filled with shops and restaurants and bars,

I was in Nashville this summer. I was in Nashville in March. and, you know, you can walk down Broadway, their main street, then you have to cross over a bridge. That's now a pedestrian bridge, and then the stadium is on the other side of the river. Right, right before the river.

It's probably from the top of Broadway, it's probably an equal walk. But it didn't seem like a long walk. It seemed like a great thing. It seemed like, man, you're walking down the street. There's people everywhere. You know, you stop to have a beer here. You walk a little bit more.

and it just seemed like a normal thing as opposed to walking through neighborhoods, one neighborhood after another, to get to the metro stop. So I think he's got some good points. Yeah, and I think it's also instructive to know that Maryland does want the stadium there. And that's the only spot because if he's not getting a dime for the stadium, he doesn't, he's going to use the land that he owns to build the stadium. Right. You know, he's got 200 acres there.

He also made the point that the land that he has is plenty big enough to support the building of a new stadium and playing in the old stadium simultaneously. That, you know, it's not like they're going to have to go, they're going to have to go play somewhere else. Absolutely. They're building it south of where the stadium is. He said basically it's kind of, it's like in the direction of Exit 16, Arena Drive. So it's in that direction. He said it puts it closer to metro stops. All the retail development will be up.

around it and it'll be it'll be nice now in thinking about this and i have talked to a couple of people here and there um since uh late last week anyway if the if the momentum for virginia not to pass this thing or not to vote on it is correct and virginia isn't going to give snider one penny well virginia's dead you know because of course dan could always spend his own money for a virginia stadium But if he's going to do that, he might as well wait until D.C. is able to buy the land from the federal government and say, you don't have to spend a dollar, I'll build it. If he's going to use his own money, he'll try to use it in D.C.

I mean, of course. Because like you said, and it's... Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, as you said, the league isn't going to let him build a stadium in Woodbridge or Dumfries. You know, this isn't Santa Clara. This isn't Silicon Valley down there? I mean, come on. It's not, they're not going to let them build it down there more likely than not.

You know, the Loudoun County, Fairfax County location off the silver line is probably a better bet, but more expensive. My point is if he's going to, if he's forced to spend all of his money on the new stadium that he doesn't get a sent from Virginia, Maryland for the stadium or D.C., why wouldn't he just wait it out a little bit? longer to see if something breaks in D.C. I'm not saying it will, but why wouldn't he, if he's going to spend his money, his preference would be to spend it in D.C. And that's where the league would want it too. What were you going to say? Well, the rest that people don't seem to understand that I voiced numerous times, and I know you're aware of it, is despite, I mean, it's a hurdle of getting the land in D.C. and all that. An equally big hurdle is getting the neighborhood to agree to it.

Right. Okay. I've been to ANC meetings, advisory, neighborhood committee meetings in the RFK area. They do not want a stadium there, those people. And the people who sit on those boards, you check the members who sit on these boards. They're government officials, they're lawyers, they're lobbyists. Again, I know I'll repeat myself, but they know how to fight something like this, and they will fight it.

They have made it clear. They want that land for parks and recreation. They do not need, in their mind, a stadium in their neighborhood. And that is a huge hurdle that everyone underestimate. I mean, events, that's what stopped Cook from getting the stadium in Virginia in Potomac Yards. He had the governor behind it. He had the government behind it. And, you know, the local officials in Potomac Yards, the people there say,

Uh-uh, no way. That's not coming here. It's a huge part of this process, even in Virginia, even in Dumfries. You'll find that, you'll find significant opposition from the Not in My Backyard Movement. Well, who the hell wants a stadium in their neighborhood anywhere? Right. Right. So you put it in a place where, like they did with the Giants and the Eagles,

where they're already used to deal with the stadium. right next to the old one. It makes sense on a lot of levels. The only way it doesn't make sense is the proximity to Metro. And if this plan reduces that distance and makes that trip more attractive, then you solve that problem. Because you're right, it's only seven miles away from the district. Yeah.

And I don't know. I think there's great, I know they, look, they've told me the demographics, the booming population, the booming growth of Prince William County. Look, my perspective is a Marylander's perspective or a D.C. resident now perspective. And, you know, living in close, and I've always lived in close, whether it's been an immediate suburb or in the city itself, you know, I don't have long commutes. And I don't want a long commute anywhere. But, you know, this isn't for me anyway. I'm speaking as if I'm going to go to games in 2028. I've already said before, I don't even know if I'm going to like the team in

2028. But the point is, is that there's great risk of really losing everybody that is still hanging in there if you move to Dumfries or Woodbridge. Look, the Loudoun Fairfax location off the Silver Line is much more palatable, I think, for not only Maryland people and D.C. people, but Northern Virginia people who don't want to drive. You know, people who live in McLean and Tysons and going west, you know, out 66. They don't want to go to Woodbridge or Dumfries either. So I just, I don't think that's going to happen.

I think I put up a poll this morning because we do it every once in a while on the show. Right now, if you're handicapping it, where's the stadium eventually going to be built? Maryland, Virginia, D.C., you know, 1,600 votes in 48.4% think Maryland, 36.2% think Virginia, and then 15.4 DC. I think it's going to be in Maryland. I think it's going to be at that site. And I think when they get it done, based on what this gentleman told me this morning, it's not going to be nearly what everybody thought it was going to be or, you know, envisions it being. I think he did a really good job of describing like a totally different feel to the stadium being put right next to the old one. I think you're probably right.

I think you're probably right. I mean, it's a long time between now and then a lot of things can go wrong in developing a project like this. But the vision, I think, is a good one. One thing about Virginia that I don't get, and maybe I'm old-fashioned, and this kind of stuff doesn't matter anymore in this day and age of politics. but how can you as a state legislature, legislator, give $300 million to a business, that's under investigation for financial impurities by the Virginia Attorney General? I think that's the issue. They're realizing that they can't.

Yeah, you can't do that. I mean, they're under investigation by the state's law firm, and you're going to give them money. You have to let that investigation play out. Yeah. You have to get a resolution on that. either a clean bill of health or that there's something here. Something else about the new stadium that you and I didn't talk about last week.

I'm pretty sure we didn't talk about it. So, you know, all of the artists, you know, drawings and renderings of what, you know, everything's going to look like. And they clearly want this vote in Virginia to go their way so that they have options. And by the way, maybe a little bit more leverage against Maryland who clearly wants the stadium but hasn't, you know, committed one dime to the building of the stadium. stadium, just what they've committed through $400 million, which is getting committed with or without the stadium being there. But, you know, the stadium size is 60,000 dome stadium, which by the way,

I think in this day and age makes total sense. I think it could be even smaller. But 60,000 is, you know, basically two-thirds the size of what it was at its capacity, highest capacity, in like the early to late 2000s when it was over 90. You know, and by the way, they were selling out a lot of those games. And then, you know, yes, they were. The last 12 years has really been the decline. And then the last five to six, it's been a disaster. But 60,000 seems right to me.

I think unless you're the Cowboys with the Cowboys brand, you know, that this is what makes sense. But you know what? It doesn't allow you to get unless it's expandable. and I was told that it's not expandable, the plans are not for the stadium to be expandable, is it doesn't get you a Super Bowl. No, it doesn't.

No, it doesn't. I'll give you a Lucas Oil Field has a $65,000. But it's expandable. But they can expand. Exactly. Yes, they can expand. No, it doesn't allow you to do that. Although the days of winter,

Super Bowl is maybe over. Who knows? Winter City Super Bowl. Well, the New York thing, I pointed out, we've talked about this before. They got lucky with that Seattle, Denver, Super Bowl, because it was 48 degrees and cloudy, and the next day they had a foot of snow.

So they were 24 hours away from it being a disaster. That was the first open-air, cold-weather city attempt. And there was discussion about, you know, D.C., eventually, with a new stadium, if it's open air, maybe they'll get one. But the fact that they're, you know, going to build a domed 60,000-seat stadium, I think, you know, there are probably a couple of things at work.

I heard it wasn't expandable. Somebody told me that. So I'm going with that as fact for right now, which would mean no Super Bowl in D.C. It would also mean, you know, you don't get, you know, big events like the WWE, like wrestling events. And you don't get, not that the World Cup is going to come back anytime soon after it's here. Well, when is it here? It's this year. Is it 2026 or is there another one in 2024?

Because Cutter was cut back two years. I forget what the deal is with the World Cup, but it wouldn't allow you to get something like that. It might allow you to get a final four. And certainly conventions and concerts, it'd be perfect for. You know, by the way, this guy was discussing like an outdoor amphitheater as well that would be part of what they're developing, you know,

in that landover area. That could be like, you know, right next door to the stadium. But, yeah, I just wanted to point out that $60,000 not expandable means, you know, basically they'd be one of the first new stadiums to be built not to be earmarked for a Super Bowl. Yeah, and that might be a little bit foolish not to have that option. Yeah. Yeah. One last thing, skins related. So we've talked about this a couple of times.

times in the last few weeks where Jack Del Rio initially talked about the discussion about the phase two of the offseason program a year ago where he didn't have some of his secondary guys and that really got him off to a really slow start and essentially, you know, created the excuse for the past defense being lousy last year as a couple of guys not showing up for like voluntary phase two. It's not even the OTAs. and it just seems like a major reach. And then Ron Rivera last week also said the same thing. Our guys are talking.

Did you hear him chatting? This is much different than last year because we didn't have them here. It just, I want to emphasize something that I don't think I've emphasized enough. It's remarkable to me that they expect us to believe that the defense sucked last year because Bobby McCain and William Jackson didn't show up for a couple of offseason phase two activities. and yet they didn't say anything about Chase Young, who missed every single phase three OTA last year, and played shitty.

It's like they don't want to piss him off. And so William Jackson was interviewed by the team's website. Zach Selby writes for the team's website. And, you know, he said, you know, William Jackson was talking about next year, and he's like, we're supposed to be good. We've got every tool at every position you can. think of. We're definitely going to do better this year. We're communicating better. I'm glad we're here because last year it was virtual. So Del Rio is actually referring to an offseason activity that

these guys didn't post for that was virtual. And that's supposedly the root cause of why the defense was awful last year. Really? That seems like a major stretch. I guess my overarching point here, would be stop. Last year's last year. You sucked on defense last year. And by the way, your rookie of the year, team captain was not very good. And if your defense, if your past defense was so lousy, I bet the lack of a pass rush had something to do with it.

And so just focus on a much better year next year. Stop making excuses and stop telling us. that, you know, last year we weren't very good because of this, because what you've done is now raised the expectation level of it should be great this year because everybody's here in the off-season stuff in your secondary. And they're communicating so well. And they're chatting and can't you hear them out there? They all know where they're supposed to be.

I'm not saying he's wrong that that wasn't a big part of it. I'm just like, why talk about that? Why tell us that it had something to do with virtual off-season, voluntary meetings in which a couple of members of your secondary who were new didn't show up. I mean, I understand that last year your defensive front had all been together, so maybe there wasn't as much communication stuff that they needed to get together. I will tell you this, it makes it really important that everybody is, you know, that it kind of makes it important that Terry McLorn's not there right now,

working with his new quarterback on offense, but I don't think Terry McClorn needs to be there. And I totally understand why he's not there. But I'll tell you what, he should be there at the beginning of training camp because he's got a new quarterback. And the new quarterback is essentially going to create a referendum on Ron Rivera. That's what I decided this morning. That Carson Wentz is the biggest, you know, unknown and burning question without an answer. But really what his performance is is a referendum on Ron Rivera as a, as the lead person in this organization. from a roster standpoint and a coaching standpoint.

Wents better play well for Rivera's sake. And I'm not saying Rivera would get fired. I think you're right. Because I don't know if that would happen at all. But I'm just saying they put all of their eggs into the Carson Wence basket. So this is about whether or not they are right or wrong on this, because they screwed up their first round pick from a year ago, it would appear. That might be early on Jamin Davis.

But they have all their eggs in this offensive basket with this quarterback. They have surrounded him with all the toys he should need to be great. Let's finish up with a couple of other topics, including I want to talk about the NBA games. I'm sure you've got something else. We'll get to all that right after these words from a few of our sponsors. So Tommy, the NBA playoffs have not been great. Lots of blowouts. That's pretty much been what's marked the NBA playoffs.

But, God, Friday night, I'm assuming you didn't watch Friday night or Sunday night. Am I right about that? You'd be right about that. It's a shame because Jimmy Butler would be one of your favorite players in the league. I mean, I've seen Jimmy Butler play. He is. I mean, I love Jimmy Butler. I'll grant you all that. The performance on Friday night with the heat down three games to two playing in what was an amped-up Boston Garden looking for their first finals trip in, you know, 12, 13, 14 years, whatever it's been. and Jimmy Butler went in there on basically, you know, two hobbled knees, and he put up 47 points, nine rebounds, eight assists, had four steals and a block shot.

It's one of the greatest individual performances in an elimination game that I've ever seen. You know, Legler is my guy on this stuff. I love talking to him. I love watching him. He's on with Scott after the game. He said it was reminiscent of LeBron's performance against the Celtic. in 2012. Remember at the time, LeBron had not gotten, you know, hadn't had a big game. The previous year they had lost to the Mavericks in the finals when he was hiding in corners

in games three and four. And that was, you know, a real important performance in his career. And he's had lots of them like that since. Jimmy Butler went into the Boston Garden. And at the opening tip of this game, you thought there was no chance that Miami had no chance. They were an eight and a half, nine point underdog. They had been. slaughtered in game five. They were injured. And he put up 47. And it was, you know, this is such an older person's description, because I kind of think that this is the way we used to describe guys that scored a lot, but you really didn't, you know, it wasn't explosive scoring, that it's a quiet 47. You know, it's like, really? He had 47 points. He was just brilliant. He was the best

defender on the court in that game. He was the best facilitator on the court in that game. He made every correct play, and he was obviously the best scorer in that game on Friday night. It is one of the great performances in NBA history in the postseason. And I know we get carried away with in the moment stuff. And last year, Durant had a couple of games against Milwaukee that were off the charts. And Kauai Leonard in an elimination game against the Mavericks last year, had an unbelievable 46 or 47 point night. But what Butler did on both ends, I don't, it's rarely, rarely been done. He was the best defensive player on the floor. He was the best facilitator on the floor, meaning making the right plays and setting things up for his teammates, and he was the best

score. He didn't put up 45 shots. He didn't shoot 15 threes. He was 16 of 29 from the floor, four for eight from behind the arc, and 11 of 11 from the free throw line. It was just couldn't take your eyes off this. If you're a sports fan or certainly a basketball fan, it was that great. With that said, when that game was over, I'm like, they have no chance to win Sunday night. That's all they've got to give. Kyle Lowry played a really good game for Miami on Friday night, you know, at 36 years old, and you could tell that they were just spent physically. And Boston's a better team. I think they might be a better team than Golden State. We'll get to that in a moment. Game seven, Boston's controlling this game all night long at Miami, and they're up 13

with just over three minutes to go. And somehow the heat whittled that down, and Jimmy Butler had a wide open three with nine seconds to go in transition to give Miami the lead. And there was a lot of back and forth as to whether or not he should have driven the ball to the bucket because it was Horford backing up. And Butler stopped behind the three point line, fired a three to give him the lead. And it just missed. It was just short and they ended up losing by four. I had no problem at all with that shot attempt.

I think in many ways, not that he was thinking about this in the moment, but they looked exhausted like overtime would have been a killer for them. And even though they had the momentum there, and it was remarkable that they had a chance to take the lead after being down 13 with just over three minutes to go, he ended up with 35 in the final, missed that three. If that three goes in, and he goes for 47 and 38, in back-to-back elimination games,

it's right up there with probably the greatest we've ever seen in the NBA postseason, not counting the ridiculous numbers that like Will Chamberlain put up. But he had 35 on Sunday night, and if that three goes down and he ends up with 47 and 38, he ends up with 85 points in two elimination games, all-timer. And he was great on Sunday night, but they just ran out of gas.

in Boston's in the finals against Golden State, which I think is really what the NBA probably wants. I think the heat would have been destroyed by Golden State. But you missed two incredible Jimmy Butler performances. I hope he stays in Miami. He's moved around too much. He's a free agent, I think. I hope he stays there.

Who do you like in the finals? Are you going to pay attention to the finals? Yeah, I'll pay attention to the finals. I mean, it's hard not to like Golden State, you know, with, you know, they keep those three guys. Clay Thompson, Steph Curry, and Raymond Green intact. It's just remarkable that they do that. And I guess Andrew Wiggins has become kind of force now.

Yeah, he really has. Under the basket. Yeah. So here's a thing remarkable stat I saw. The Golden State Warriors have grossed nearly $72 million from the box office during the NBA playoff so far. That's before the final. This year? This year.

Wow. $72 million. I mean, I imagine Ted. I mean, what he must think. 72 million. That's owner money. Yeah, it's all playoff money. That stays with the owner.

Yes. Oh, man. What is that new arena hold, the Chase Center, which apparently is beautiful? Is it $20,000? I don't know. I don't know. but if ever a player had an impact on a franchise it's step curry because before he got there they were the wizards yeah yeah i mean they had had more success i mean the clippers were more the wizards

but yeah no you're right i mean what he did for for 20 years yeah for 20 years they were the worst team in the league but they had more support in oakland than the then the wizards had here i think. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. I mean, they had a couple of teams over the years that were decent. But yeah, it's funny because I don't know if you agree with me or not, but I think the NBA is just one of those leagues where you have to go through it before you can win it. We've seen that over long periods of time. You know, Jordan had to keep losing to the Pistons and then he finally got through the Pistons and he had earned it. You know, Magic obviously was, you know, he also had Kareem on the team, but won it as a rookie,

and Bird won it in his second year. But then you had the Pistons who kind of had to earn it by budding up against the Celtics over and over again. And then, you know, you had some teams that never did get a chance to earn it during the Jordan era, obviously in the 90s. But even a guy like Janus who won it last year, you know, he kept getting knocked out when he was a favorite. And so I don't know that Jason Tatum is ready to win a title in his first series. I kind of think this is one of those sports where the NBA finals are pretty big.

And there's an experience factor that is really significant. And all of these warriors, the big three, have played in a hell of a lot of NBA finals games. So I like Golden State, I think, to win the series. But I'm saying that, and I believe Boston might be a better. team. I just think that maybe the moment in their first go at it, you know, we've seen it over the years many, many times before. The first run at the finals usually doesn't, you know, it's a learning experience kind of a thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we'll see. I mean, we'll see. I mean, LeBron had to earn it in many ways, even though he got to the finals as a very young player,

but they got swept by the Spurs. But Jason Tatum, Tommy, is a legit star. I'm. I mean, I mean, he is a legit top five-ish kind of player in this league. I don't think there's any doubt about it. And Steph Curry is Steph Curry. So, you know, those are the keys. I mean, I think Wiggins will play a big role. I think the Jordan Pool lineup for Golden State will be important. But it's weird.

I'm going to pick the Warriors. My official pick is the Warriors, probably in seven. I think it could be a long, entertaining series. I hope it is. I hope we don't get one blowout after another. But it's weird because I think the Celtics are actually the better team and the deeper team. But should be a good NBA finals, Golden State and Boston. What else you got?

The Nats had a good weekend until last night. They were almost 19 and 31 again. I know. They almost did it. But then Eric Fetty got destroyed by the Mets yesterday. Six runs in one and a third innings, and it basically destroyed their bullpen. I mean, you're starting rotation. It's just stunning.

I mean, how they're really, they've got nobody. They've got nobody in their rotation. Corbyn is the most expensive guy, and he, and people get excited if he, if he gets through six-innings without getting blown up. I know he has, but still, he hasn't pitched like a guy who got the money that they paid him. They've got such a dismal starting. rotation. And, you know, I know Strasbourg pitched well down at Fredericksburg, but I mean, it's hard

to have faith in a guy who's had such difficulty with injuries in the past and is coming back from an injury with such uncertainty as thoracic outlet that he's dealing with. So it's going to be a rough year, not the least of which the team is still for sale by the learners, which places everything under uncertainty. Yeah. I wanted to mention Maryland lacrosse won the national championship yesterday, beating Cornell 9 to 7 in the final in Hartford. Undefeated, right?

Undefeated, 18-0. It is, by all accounts, people that really know this say this may be the greatest team in the history of the sport, the first team to ever win 18-0. 18 games without a loss in a season. They're 33 and 1 in the last two years. They lost to Virginia basically at the gun last year in the NCAA championship. So they win it all. I think somebody told me yesterday they have 12 All-Americans on their team.

Is that even possible? But apparently this is like one of the all-time great lacrosse teams. And many people who really know the sport say they are. This is the best team ever. But, you know, they held on for Deer Life at the end. Cornell closed, I think, a 9-2 lead to 9-to-7, but the Terps win it. So congrats to them and to John Tillman. And then Maryland baseball, Tommy.

I didn't know this. Aaron told me this. Maryland baseball is ranked 15th in the country. They won the Big Ten. They're in the College World Series. And the University of Maryland is hosting one of these sub-regionals starting this week. at Shipley Field. Yes, very cool.

Yeah. That's very cool. And let me point out that Catholic University, a D3 baseball program, is also going to the D3 World Series. Awesome. That's great. After a tremendous year. So great college baseball being played in this area. And you can see great college baseball when the D.C.

Grays start to play with their first home game, June 8th, at the National Youth Academy. free college baseball I might want to point out. I would like some D.C. Gray's T-shirts, and I would like two of each, if you can pull that off. Oh, I know our merchandise director among the thousand of other duties he has, Chris Spira, is probably going to listen to this podcast at one point, so he will get that message. Well, Chris knows that, and I swear. to God this is true. And of course, if Chris, if you don't have any stuff, I don't need stuff.

I did, I'm not a stuff guy. But you, over the years I've gotten a couple of those T-shirts, you know, the D.C. Gray's T-shirts. And I think I also got kind of a long tea as well one year. And they are still in my closets.

One of my boys was in one the other day. There's one I wear all the time. They're super comfortable, and they look great, and they say D.C. on them. So they're really good shirts. And so go to the D.C. Gray's website and buy some of their gear. It's actually great gear. Michael Phillips, by the way, from the Richmond Times Dispatch just weighed in moments ago. Virginia Stadium Watch, no bill has been filed from the conference committee yet that will need to happen ahead of tomorrow's session, an interesting few hours ahead.

So what I understand is if it's not on the, if that bill isn't there to be voted on tomorrow, I guess there's like another session where it could be brought up, but the indication will be this thing's dead in the water. Even if there's another chance before next year to bring it back, that essentially it didn't make it to the session tomorrow because it wasn't going to be approved. So amazing. three jurisdictions for this NFL franchise, and none of them, none of them want to spend one penny on Dan Snyder. Nor should they.

No. No. I agree. I wanted to share one thing before we leave. I wanted to talk about my experience this weekend. Okay. I went to the fight in D.C. Saturday night. It was my first time at the entertainment and sports arena.

Yeah. Good arena? And it's a nice arena. Yeah. They got a lot of work to do. around the arena, but I think they will at some point. And that's going to be a great area. And I really enjoyed the actual arena itself.

I saw some good fights Anthony Peterson, knocked his guy out in the sixth round for his comeback fight. And they're going to have fights there again, I think in August, on a Saturday, August 6th, for people who are interested. And after the fights, I went to Shelley's to have a smoke and a couple of beers. Your spot? And yes.

And there was Robert Patrick, the actor who played T-1000, the villain in Terminator 2, and played Dave, the sporting goods store owner.

Yeah. And the Sopranos. Yeah, among many, many other roles he's played. He was in We Are Marshall. Yeah. That's right. He was the coach who died, right? Yeah.

In the plane crash, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, so we hung out at Shelly's. He was in town to do the motorcycle ride as the riders do every memorial day. You used to be called Rolling Thunder. I forget what it's called now. Right. But very nice guy. I had a great time with him. I even got my picture taken with him. Oh, awesome. But this happened to Shelly's. I mean, Shelly's is a place where, you know, you know, you Celebrities are hang out.

They know about it. Like Todd Laverro. Yeah, I mean, if they're looking for a cigar bar, that's the spot in D.C. Certainly downtown. It's the only place in D.C. Yeah. So, all right. And he was normal, and you have a beer with him, share a cigar with him, just sit down and hang out?

Yeah, very, very nice guy. All right. Really enjoyed it. All right. We're done for the day. be back tomorrow.