The Kevin Sheehan Show - Into The Cooley Archive

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

Kevin today on the Nuggets win over the Lakers and the crushing Nats' loss to start. Scott Jackson jumped on to talk Wizards' lottery loss, NBA Playoffs, Sam Howell, Josh Harris, and more on the Commanders. Then it's into the Cooley "archives" for what he said nearly a year ago to the day about a certain player who might start at QB in 2023.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheon Show. Here's Kevin. Yolkich bringing it up the floor. Throws it ahead. Quarter fakes.

Side step. Three-pointers. In and out. Yolkich, another rebound. And the pushback. He's got 10 rebounds already. That was a hell of a basketball game last night. I hope you guys watched it.

If you're still one of those that just is not giving it any attention, you're missing out. This is basketball at the highest levels we have seen in a long, long time. The quality of the game last night, the passing, the basketball IQ, the shot making. It was unbelievable to watch. Nicola Yokic put on an absolute beast of a performance. doing things that have never been done in an NBA playoff game. The first guy to ever have more than 15 points, 15 rebounds, and five assists in a half, in a first half.

He ended up with 34 points, 21 rebounds, and 14 assists in the game. This guy did not score in the fourth quarter, and I thought Darwin Ham did a phenomenal job with some of the adjustments they made. They used kind of Rui Hachamura on them, but kept Anthony Davis sort of lurking in almost a zone behind it. There was a lot of strategy in this game, a lot of in-game adjustments. But Yokic was unbelievable in the first half in particular. He out-rebounded the Lakers in the first half by himself.

He had 1916, 5, 7 and 2 blocked shots in the first shot. first half, and he had 16 rebounds. The Lakers as a team only had 13 rebounds. Anthony Davis in this game was unbelievable. I mean, first of all, real quickly on Yokic. He was 12 of 17 from the floor, three for three on three pointers. I mean, 34, 21, 14, and two block shots in 42 minutes. And then you had Anthony Davis scoring 40 with 10 rebounds on 14 of 23 from the floor. LeBron's decision-making, I mean, we've never questioned LeBron and his basketball IQ. He is truly one of the all-time smartest basketball players. 26 points, 12 rebounds, nine assists for LeBron.

Austin Reeves continues to play big. Rui Hachamura was huge last night for the Lakers. 17 off the bench on 8 of 11. I thought this story for Denver after the first half in the Yokic performance was Jamal Murray and specifically KCP. I mean, there's some former wizards in these games. You had Rui playing really well for the Lakers. You had KCP. By the way, Jeff Green knocked down a big three as well.

I thought Caldwell Pope was outstanding. He had a huge shot at 127, 125. or with about a minute 53 to go. He was 21 points for him. He was outstanding. And then, of course, Jamal Murray is one of the best shot makers in the league. He went for 31 on 60% from the floor, 12 of 20.

That's about as high level a basketball game you will ever watch start to finish. The Lakers were down 21 in the third quarter. They came back. The big issue with the Lakers all night was rebounding. and they started their small lineup with Schrooter again, and then they went bigger with Hachamura, and this is a much bigger team they're facing in Denver than Golden State was, or even Memphis was.

They were out rebounded 47 to 30 on the night, and Denver had 15 offensive rebounds, but a lot of those came in the first half. But the Lakers got that lead down to three and had the ball, and LeBron, with about 50 seconds to go, decided to take a three. I don't think that was the best decision. personally, but he missed it and Denver holds on for a game one win. This series is going to be

great. Game one of the Eastern Conference finals tonight, Miami and Boston. Boston's a heavy favorite in this series, and they are big time game one favorite as well. They are an eight-point favorite tonight in game one in Boston against the heat. I am really rooting for the heat. Denver was a six-point favorite last night. They pushed. They are six-point favorite at My Bookie again for game two tomorrow night. Coming up on the show, Scott Jackson's going to join us here shortly in the next segment. We'll talk commanders.

We'll talk ownership situation. We will talk NBA playoffs. We will talk Wizards draft lottery. They did not gain ground. They didn't lose ground. The Wizards just never have money. much luck when it comes to this. And last night's draft lottery was significant.

And then at the end of the show, I'm hitting the archives. I listened to something yesterday. It was a Cooley segment from roughly a year ago. You'll have to tune in at the end of the show, last segment of the show, to hear what it's about. But I don't know what made me go and listen to this, but I went and listened to this. and as I was listening to it, I thought this would be something that rather than making you go back and find the episode, I'll just stick it at the end of the episode today, and you can listen to it.

So a coolly archived segment coming up at the end of the show. Three balls, two strikes, two outs, Marlins down a run, tying run at second. And Salare hits one, the left. So long and so long. Painful loss for the Washington Nationals last night. Hunter Harvey giving up a two-run homer, three runs in total in the ninth. They've been competitive as hell. They had a four-two lead going into the ninth inning to what is now this second-place team in the National League East. By the way, I saw this story where Annabelle Sanchez announced his retirement yesterday on Instagram. That is still one of my favorite pitching performances from 2019. Game one at St. Louis, National League Championship Series. He gives up one hit in seven and two-thirds in a two-nothing win, and he did it with pitch speeds of like 64 and 77 and then 89.

Like he was so far ahead of every St. Louis hitter. It was one of those gems of sort of brains over. you know, brawn. Didn't have overpowering stuff, but man, there was a lot of, a lot of experience in guile in that pitching performance. I wanted to mention one other thing before we get to Scott Jackson, who will join us here shortly. I got this tweet from Dan. Dan tweeted, Kevin, you've been telling us how less enthusiastic you've become about the team, yet the discussion about changing the name has you fired up. Seems like you still have feelings for your ex.

I don't view the football team as my ex. I view my football team as a relationship that's just not as passionate as it once was. But I don't view it as an ex. But no, the point of getting fired up on the show yesterday with Tommy about the rebrand conversation is I just don't think, I don't think it's right to lecture people about how they feel about this. This is a completely subjective thing. It's not an objective thing. It deals with emotion. Brands are always drawing on people's emotions. Strong brands do.

And this is something we talked about for years, that, you know, you get rid of that team name and it's, you're going to perhaps potentially lose some real value. Now, the price tag is the price tag. I mean, it's an NFL franchise, but it would be problematic in losing that name. And I think part of the feeling, too, as we've discussed, is that you've got a new name that nobody likes, and you've got a new name that feels like to me,

and I think others, that it was kind of come up, that the process was handled by kind of outsized. outsiders, people that don't have that passion or have had the passion in the past. I think this conversation about rebranding, honestly, is really a conversation that has to be between people that have a stake in this. I think kind of the outsiders, it's not their conversation. Not that they don't have the right to any kind of opinion that they want to have, but I'm much more interested in the people who have been fans or are fans or are fans because that That's, you know, where we are. The poll that I put out basically reflected 56 to 44.

56% of the people have it high on their priority list, 44% don't. And, you know, that's 4,000 plus votes. So, you know, you're talking about, first of all, the fact is that it is an issue to people. A lot of people, perhaps a majority of the people, it is an issue for. But that's the fact. What is, you know, opinion is whether or not, it's not opinion. To me, there's no right or wrong answer as to how you feel about this. You know, this isn't, this doesn't come with a right or wrong. If you've been a longtime fan and you like commanders or you are just over the whole name discussion anyway and you're ready to move on even if you hate the name and you're willing to accept it,

that's fine. It's the way you feel. If you're somebody that says, I can't do it. right now the way I feel is I can't root for a team that doesn't look like the team I had forever. That's 100% fine. That's really, Dan, my point is that it's not that I got fired up or enthusiastic because I have all a sudden these really strong feelings for the team that I used to have. No, my passion level is, you know, my passion level may have taken a notch up with Snyder finally

leaving. But it's more about the fact that it seems like on social media in particular, and this should never be the measuring stick, that people that were lecturing last year about Carson Wentz get on board or get out. It seems to be that same group. And to me, those people are limited in their ability to understand that this is not, you know, when it comes to the way somebody feels, there's not a right or wrong answer. But again, the facts are for those that think that this shouldn't be an issue, that for the majority of people it probably

is, which is why for new ownership, they should listen to a fan base, a former fan base, where a majority of them think that this is an issue. That's it on that. Up next, Scott Jackson, right after these words

from a few of our sponsors. All right jumping on with me right now is my good friend Scott Jackson, at Jackson Sports on Twitter. And I was thinking about you last night during the lottery. Like, before it started, I was like, my God, you know, if for whatever reason they actually hit it and they got the first overall pick. And I know what the percent chances were. But look, the best chance, you know, the top three teams had a 14 percent chance.

It was only twice the chance that Washington had at 6.7%. And I kept thinking, this could be. totally change, not just the franchise, but really in many ways, like the way we talk about sports in this town in the years to come. Like if this guy, Wemagnana, ends up being what everybody thinks he's going to be, this once-in-a-generation player, like if the Wizards got him and they became an NBA championship contender and a future NBA champion, Like, we would, they would be a massive deal in this town, and that night, that moment would have changed it all.

But it didn't happen. Yeah, and then you, I know, but it didn't. But then you see the backstory, which is like the ultimate dagger, which was that Wimbiama with the ping pong ball combo, 14, 5, 8, and 2, but after the first three numbers were picked, the Wizards had a possible 6th of the 11 remaining numbers. So they were so close to losing it because they do this whole thing in the correct order. downstairs before the lottery. Then for TV, they bring them up there, they give these guys locked in a holding room and all this stuff. But apparently, if you're down there and, you know,

you're with the wizard watching this happen, I mean, this has got to be the most painful thing. Wait, wait a minute. Hold on for a second. I'm not following you because I haven't heard this yet. And I have a feeling others haven't heard this either. Yeah. So the, first of all, explain how how they do this. It used to be the ping pong balls. What is it now? Well, they do it still downstairs with a ping pong ball combination, right? The three numbers, again, after the first three numbers are picked, the Wichert still had six of the 11 numbers remaining to get the top pick when it was coming up. They had, I guess, 7, 9, 10, 12, and 13, according to Ben Gulliver, the Washington Post,

and they just missed it, obviously. And then they stayed in their, you know, and it stayed in their spot. So they do all this stuff ahead of time down. there. And, you know, it's, again, not exciting. I don't know why the NBA, look, you have NBA TV. I don't know what the hell they put on it all day after the games are over and the post game shows are over. But couldn't you do like a behind-the-scenes show to see how this goes?

Because a lot of people think it's fixed, right? I know, like Michael Lee, I think, has covered this. There's a few other guys that have covered this in the past that are downstairs, allow the access and they see it happen. It's nothing, you know, a favorite about it. It's just not exciting television. And, you know, the NFL is the same thing. and then they go upstairs and what have you in baseball,

but it's just not as much fun. But anyway, after the three numbers were picked, the Wizards to get at 6th, the 11 numbers left, to be drawn, and they obviously didn't get it. The Spurs did, and it almost feels a little bit, you know, if you're looking at the big picture like Justice, because San Antonio, like they put it all in. They weren't trying to fool anybody,

but they were trying to win the lottery. I mean, they were trying to increase their chances to win the lottery this year with the way they rolled that team out and really for the last couple seasons. So it's frustrating and annoying that if the Wizards are just, I don't know, like wave the flag a little earlier in the season, who knows what could have happened last night? What did you think when it was the Spurs? Again, like I was just saying to my son, like nobody's invested more and done a better job in Europe

and overseas period, an international ball. Have you want to look at it? They've had obviously two of the most famous French players in Parker, D.L. So it's kind of justice, I guess, in a sense, because they were doing this along before anybody else was, it feels like. They were really ahead of the game here. And again, they did what you're really supposed to do in the NBA instead of right in the middle like our franchise likes to do.

I mean, if you're not going to be a championship contender, you really need a bottom-this-thing out, you know, and clear out a lot of the dead weight and the contracts and get more opportunities to get, you know, generational talent. and everybody's been telling you for years. This isn't like this kid just surprised everybody. For a couple seasons, we've been hearing about when beyond. You know, the biggest and the best, you know, since LeBron James,

potentially, and they call me unicorn, all the other stuff. I mean, everyone knew this was a year to do this. And, you know, they didn't figure it out until late in the season when they started, you know, there was a lot of guys, you know, getting scratched, the lineup for being changed, you know, late in the season where they decided it wasn't worth trying to get into the postseason. I just wish they would have figured it out a little bit earlier. and maybe, you know, let Nature take its course, so to speak,

and made some trades. It would have been nice. It could have cleared out Kuzma potentially if he was hot at the time of the going into the trade deadline, you know. And then he'd have a decision to make obviously now with Porzingus this offseason, assuming he opt out, which I think it's said he will. And then obviously the Brad Beal, you know, Albatross, you know, you've got to figure out something with that at some point.

But now, you know, they're back where they were before all the stuff and they still don't have a general manager. No, they don't. Like, I'd like to continue the conversation about the Wizards, but I'm just afraid that people will start fast-forwarding for the most part. Because it's really, like, my point was they were, you know, one lucky night away from becoming not only relevant, but maybe approaching top-level relevance in this town for the next 10 to 15 years. if the player ends up being what the player is projected to be. So let me just move on to the games. What did you think of the game last night?

Well, it's always dangerous when a team runs out that early. I mean, in Denver was so good for so long. And I'll give the Lakers a lot of credit. They competed their assets off. I mean, they could easily, you know, to go back to the Spurs, pulled, you know, Greg Popovich in the second half, Darbin Ham could have really early in the fourth quarter if you wanted to. It just rested guys and lived to play another day.

Now, the beauty of the way the schedule is in the playoffs, as you know, you get all these extra days of rest. So you can ride LeBron and Anthony Davis for 40-plus minutes and Reeves and hope to make you comeback. But, you know, it's interesting as for all these games. You hear this all the time, you know, guys coach and stuff. Okay, the Lakers figured some things out. Everybody's going to say, right?

Because the way they played, as the game went on, Yokic was a non-factor in terms of scoring in the fourth quarter, although he's obviously still a huge factor because the whole defense focuses on him. But, you know, Rui Hachamori, of all things, defensively, it sounds so funny to say this, it's going going back to the wizard. It seemed like he might have, you know, been a deterrent for him and helped him, and it allowed, you know, as Jeff and Gondi was talking about constantly, really, it allowed Anthony Davis to roam. It was an interesting situation, and I'm a little surprised that, you know, they didn't

do something to make Anthony David have to defend. someone in that stretch. But, you know, it worked out. We'll see if it really carries over or not. But it's a tough place to play. I mean, that altitude as everybody knows. I mean, it's talked about. And they want you to know about it when you're there.

You know, I just thought Denver, they got out. Luckily, they did enough work on their part to get out and run. But, man, you know, they can't be real excited about the way they defended in the second half or the way they handled that big lead. And the game was obviously way too close for comforted down the stretch. Yeah, I mean, the move to the bigger line. up with Rui was a great move by Darvindham. I mentioned, God,

there are just a lot of former Washington players, coaches, ties in this series. And by the way, also in the, you know, just D.C. area in the Nuggets Sun series in the last round.

But to watch Rui, he did a nice job, but the problem was Anthony Davis was essentially playing a zone behind him, like, don't worry, I've got him if he actually, he gets by you. And Yokic is so unselfish and, you know, he made the right plays. But it did work there for a while. I don't know what, like to me, whoever Davis is guarding has to become the screener out on the perimeter. They've got to get him away from the basket. And Gordon was the guy that he was

on. I don't know why they didn't use Gordon more as a screener. They ran him to the corner, which let, you know, Davis, you know, keep one foot in the paint. And that's probably not the right way. think both of the coaches have done great jobs in the postseason, whereas, you know, in that Philadelphia-Boston series, it was like, I mean, the Philadelphia-Boston series, Scott, compared to this, like, this was, you know, this was advanced trig. And, like, the Philadelphia-Boston series was like, it was like learning your times tables. Doc Rivers, you don't have a problem with him getting fired, do you? No, I expected him to get fired. I was actually up in New Jersey, to the customers this weekend, my father-in-law and the family, all Sixers fans.

And there, you know, the course of fucking Josh Harris has a lot up there about what's got to happen here with the football team. And they were like, yeah, well, he's got to do something here if they don't win this game today. Lo and behold, they were Dr. Weber said after the game, Mike, you know, I plan to come back as I did it. It ain't up to you. It kind of made me laugh. And again, the record is what the record is in multiple locations. I still, if I'm a Boston fan, I'm still angry at him for not clean it, you know, having two there with that Garnett crew, they should have beat those Lakers twice.

I mean, it was just frustrating to think back on that. But, yeah, it was not – and look, this is the NBA now, man. It doesn't matter. I mean, there's some really good coaches on the streets right now. And that's why, you know, again, going back to our Wizards, this whole situation with them just locking in on West Endsville Jr. Like, he's untouchable. It's kind of funny. But anyway, yeah, those guys did a great job.

And they've done a really good job this season. And it's easy to coach LeBron, you can say. They didn't, you know, this was not a great team. It's like two different teams he's had, too. And they've reinvented themselves. And Dennis Schroeder, man, I'll be honest with you. I thought a couple years ago, that guy had kind of left his better basketball behind of it. You know, again, a lot of it, I'm sure, the credit to LeBron.

Exactly. When he gets out of his teammates, you know, and what he demands of them. But, you know, still, he's done a lot more than I would have suspected at times for them. But, you know, kind of, you know, taking a lesser role. But when he does get the chance to shoot, actually coming through for them. But it's been interesting. and we'll see if, you know, with Rui as you know, when everybody here knows,

that you'll get a good game or two from him, and you're like, dang, this is it, you know, here we go, and then he'll just disappoint you moving forward. So let's see if you can play a full series at a high level. And I'm not really sure he can't. So, I mean, that was a good move last night. It worked last night. Let's see if it works moving forward here.

All right. Is Sam Hal going to be the answer, quarterback? We hope, right? That's the plan. I mean, you know, it's a tough thing. With a lot of this stuff, like, your plans are hope. You're not sure.

I'm never going to be convinced they really had a chance to do their full diligence, despite all the happy talk about, oh, yeah, we're allowed to do whatever we want. You know, there was no restrictions on us from ownership, blah, blah, blah, and obviously we'll never know because there was. But, I mean, what were the options, really? I mean, do you think, let me ask you, do you think Steve Bichotty would allow the commanders to come in and sign Lamar Jackson to an offer sheet and not matched it? I don't think there was a chance in any universe that would have been allowed to happen.

him. And by the way, you had to plan in advance for that in terms of getting your salary cap stuff straight. Because that was a bit of a surprise, you know, that he ended up, you know, being given the non-exclusive franchise tag. Most of the off-season talk was that he would get the exclusive franchise tag. But no, I mean, I think, you know, and I don't think Aaron Rogers had this been last year, and they had been going after Aaron Rogers in the same way they went after Russell Wilson. I don't think he would have wanted to come here. I think, you know, he probably viewed New York as more exciting and more stable, even though that franchise hasn't been that stable either.

But maybe, you know, what they would have done with new ownership in places, maybe they would have been more aggressive in the draft, maybe. Yeah, I think that would have been interesting. And the thing is that I think you could also say this. I mean, with their track record of the previous three off seasons, I'm not really sure I would have been excited about that making another decision on a quarterback. That's true, too. I mean, I think this probably works out better, where if you're the new owner, you've got to say on what the quarterback positions, if Sam Health

is a complete flame out and doesn't show you anything this year. So what are all your Philadelphia in-laws and relatives saying about Josh Harris? Well, here's the thing they don't, let me give you something they don't like about Josh Harris. You hear a lot of good things about Josh Harris, which is, you know, he's a guy, he doesn't, he's not looking for the spotlight, he's not like some, you know, a guy who's grabbing the microphone on this, that, and the other isn't, is in, you know, And, you know, it's it crazy. He doesn't do, like, things don't win him or he thinks it out.

But if they don't like about him, because it appears this is true for him, this is business for him, right? And most of it, previously, okay, these have been business transactions from the 76ers, the devil's, you know, the soccer, the club that he's got money in. I guess at the time, you know, he has a little bit of the Pittsburgh Steelers. They don't like the fact that he's not really, he's not a Philadelphia guy, right? Like, they don't like the fact that he's not some Philly guy. I go, look, I live that life where the guy was a football football. of the team, and it didn't work out for us. So I don't know. Jack Kent Cook was not a D.C. guy, right?

He had it, but he was in L.A. and the King's the Lakers and, you know, came out here. He's from Canada. So I've got to look at it that way. I'm like, yeah, I get it. I understand that he's about business and the way he's structured. This is interesting. The difference is he's coming back to his home area, and this is something I think that now, you know, that he's had experience elsewhere might help him. But, again, maybe, again, that's wishful thinking of my part, because, again, NFL's new to him and all these guys involved.

But that's their big knock. He's not here. He's not his president. You know, he doesn't live briefly in the fact that I think he is a devil's pride and excited a lot of people. And, you know, in the move to Chinatown or the attempt to move to China Town of Philadelphia, as you would expect, like any area where you're going to put an arena or stadium, is facing some, you know, some civic pushback.

People aren't excited about it necessarily. And you can understand that's a huge project. but as I always say to them, I go, he's not asking you guys to pay for it, right? He's not shaking you down for publicly funded money. This is a privately funded deal. They're like, yeah, I think I could live with that. So let's try to knock.

I mean, that's it. I mean, it's not like, oh, man, it's just a horrible person. It's not like, you know, they're trying to cheat the fans. I mean, you've seen some of these stories about the amount of money they put into, you know, the facilities with the Sixers. I think that's interesting and certainly important to feel Ron Rivera's favorite phrase because they have problems there. I mean, we saw this NFLPA report, and everything's not going to get become brand new

overnight, and they're going to put a new practice facility wherever or a new stadium right away, so they're going to have to live with the places they're in. So I think that, that to me is encouraging to hear. And you know, you and I've discussed that you've got three guys, you know, that grow up here that are big investors here with, you know, Mitchell Rails as well in Mark Ion, and they understand what the franchise, you know, used to be. And I think that's, I do feel like that is important. And they can obviously learn a lot from just do the opposite of the previous guy.

And then it'll probably get you pretty far. What did you make? You're a Virginia. You're a northern Virginia guy. You know the state very well. What did you make of the, you know, the prospectus, you know, that Harris put together for his co-investors or to pitch co-investors in the referencing of Virginia being the jurisdiction that would potentially pony up close to near $1.5 billion for a new stadium.

Is that leverage for D.C. and Maryland to get off their ass and come to the table with more money down the road? Or do you think they would be serious about Virginia? Yeah, and I think they have to look at it. I mean, when you get to the locations, I mean, here's what we know. Here's the only location they actually have an agreement to, which it's the two sites of Prince William County, which are off 95. and again, I'll say this over and over until I'm dead. They're never going to have the metro out there, right?

They're not going to have public transit out there. 95 is a disaster north and south on a Sunday without football, on the side of 60,000 or whatever the stadium would be. It would just be insanity, and it's just not. It's not going to re-exam. The league would never let them move to those locations. Right. And people keep throwing, oh, Santa Clara.

I'm going to say Santa Clara. Okay, take a week in a Prince William County, all right? Sorry. No offense. No offense. But seriously, it's not. Now, then you can say, well, Dallas, you know, that area, that's where it's a fluid, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff.

That's true. But guess what? Those are the fluid people really don't want to stay the stadium out there. And there's not a whole lot of land in the move for, the move for, the bottom county has been data center, data center, data center. And if you're the landowner, you're going to get more money from the data center, you know, from the Amazon's, the world, the Googles of the world, and whoever else, than you are from a stadium

because they're looking for a deal. So I think it's one of those things that I think it's true that they could get a lot of money from Virginia, maybe. They had a pretty good proposal that couldn't get voted on because of Dan Snyder essentially last time around.

We'll see, but look, Maryland's come out already, Westmore's been, you know, the rest of your Terry's already said they want to work with them. They have the home field advantage, if you will, as we know they have all that land. Plus, you know, is there an option to move over near the casino?

That would be interesting. if that were to happen. And then there's D.C. We just saw the story yesterday about now some, maybe some defauling with the Comier and Kentucky saying that he would try to help Bowser get that land.

So, you know, again, it's all just starting. We're going to hear a lot of these different things. I don't put a whole lot into it. I think I said to the text yesterday. I don't think three guys who grew up here Montgomery County want their legacy to be, we moved the team to Virginia.

I'm sorry. I don't believe that for a second, but hey, whatever. You can chase these headlights if you want, I guess. But I'm not going to believe it until I see it. Well, I certainly don't believe that they want their legacy to be, we move the team to Woodbridge or Dumfries. Like that, to me, has been a joke from the beginning

because I don't even think the league would allow it. You know, the league can hold back their pot of money that goes to teams that build new stadiums if they don't like the plan. I think the D.C. thing, too, is tricky, because getting the land may not be the big challenge. The issue is going to be getting taxpayers to pony up something that, you know, at least comes close to whatever Maryland or maybe Loudoun County, you know, throws their way. Because even though people say, look, these 16, 17 guys, I mean, their aggregate net worth is, you know,

$90 billion or whatever, $30 billion, whatever it is, like they can build the stadium. Well, that's easy for you to say. Josh Harris is the lead controlling investor, and I am sure that the other co-investors have a certain amount of money that they had to commit in getting involved in the deal to a new stadium. So I'm not worried that he can't handle it, but they're going to be looking for, as anybody would. Look, Buffalo and Nashville just got big taxpayer contribution

for their new stadiums that will be built. And these guys are businessmen. You know, Josh Harris is going to be looking for a big contribution without having to go back to all of his big co-investors and say, hey, you're worth a lot of money. I need you to write another big check. It's not, you know, it could happen that way, but I think they'd prefer it to happen the other way.

It's going to be interesting. I think the other part of yesterday's story, Scott, that came out is just the idea that, you know, everybody's been thinking 2027, 2028, you know, well, we're already in 2023 now. And what this thing really reflected in his, you know, presentation to co-investors is the new stadium is really we're looking at 2031, 2032. I mean, we're eight to nine years away from a new stadium and maybe a decade away. So that's why, you know, they're talking about putting all of that money back into FedEx, like $88 million in. stadium upgrades because they're going to be there for a while.

Yeah, and I think that's smart and the more realistic is this idea to rush it. Look, we did the rushing of a stadium before, and it didn't work out well. I mean, that's what Jack had cooked did. He wanted to rush that thing up. By the time it was done, it was already antiquated. And it was already, you know, it was already, you know, it was already, well, this isn't even the state of the York stadium anymore. I mean, it was terrible from the jump.

There were problems from the beginning. So, yeah, it's interesting. I mean, again, it was back then, remember, I'd say to people all the time, When you're talking about Potomac Yards, like you could see the other side of the river. You know, you can look down and see, you know, D.C. This is completely different when you're talking about, you know, Woodbridge or, you know, or a dumpreys is a lot different. If there was a spot in Arlington, okay, you could talk me into that or, you know, right nearby, but there's not. So that's why the Virginia thing to me remains fantasy.

And again, I think if you think people in D.C. aren't excited about a stadium. You wait until you talk to the people in Lovvin County. They're not going to be real high on it either. And there's really, and again, frankly, I mean, unless you go out like where Steve Daven lives at this point, there's not a whole lot of locations. I mean, it keeps closing up quickly. I mean, there are, a lot of them are spoken for that appear to be empty right now, too. So yesterday, and I'll finish with this, I put a poll out on the rebrand, just trying to

gauge, you know, where people have this on their priority. You know, I'll share with you if you don't know. To me, the lecturing of people that this is important do is just nauseating. You know, it's just stop it, okay? Nobody's telling you that, you know, it's okay that the rebrand isn't anywhere near your, you know, a list of priorities. Stop telling people that, you know, have it as a priority that they can't have it as a priority. but 55% roughly of the people that have voted have said, and it's close to 4,000 votes, that this is a high on the list priority, top five or at the very top of the list.

Roughly 44.5% somewhere around there have said that it's further down the list or it's not on the list at all. Where are you on this, the rebrand? Well, I think a lot of the rebrand people want it to be the old name, and it's not happening. No, that's not going to happen. Agreed. Right. So that's why I think, like, we almost need to do a different poll. All right.

Rebrand name, but the old name's not a possibility. So I think there's some feeling, okay, these guys from here, they're going to know how pop car it was. Yeah, they're also going to know that they're just going to set the franchise back by doing something like that politically. So it's not happening. But for me, it's down the list. Like maybe, you know, maybe it's just outside of the top 10. And I'm not saying he shouldn't look at it or think about it. I mean, these guys are smart business people, as we know, do the research on it, what have you.

I just don't think you're going to get to the end and end result is going to make people happy. Yeah, you're a race would appear to be Dan's preferred name, I guess. But is it really going to make people excited, you know, and bring people together, whatever the new name may be, whether it be red wolves or, you know, I don't know, red hogs, whatever the heck, you know, red tails, you know, whatever it may be. I just don't see it being something that's going to, again, be universally loved. Look, we've lived with the Wizards for a long time. I don't think it's a great name. Never thought it was a good name, but kind of got over it.

I think there's ways, you know, to promote it as D.C., you know, and Washington, which they have done with the big Ws and the helm on that stuff, to kind of stay off of it. It's just for me. It's not as important, but I get it. If some people are, I just don't think it's going to be something that's going to be universally beloved when they get to the end of it. it would be the problem.

And, you know, certainly they could do a lot better in terms of rolling it out than the last group did because that was a mess. I was thinking about what you said at the beginning of your answer about, you know, if you told everybody, look, Redskins isn't an option. How would they feel? I don't think that people that want to rebrand are believers that the old name can come back. I'm not saying that some aren't, but I would guess that the majority of people understand that that ship is sale. apparently. Well, I mean, I deal with a lot of those people as well. And look, I mean, I actually think I would advocate against doing it if they were even seriously considering it because it's like, why would you want to start to rebuild this business and have, you know, the activists come

back and have that whole thing? So I doubt that they would even consider that. But I think most people I think there are a lot of people that just think that what they did was completely butchered and botched. And that's true. And that's totally true. But that's not these guys' problem necessarily coming in. Their problem is make this, you know, in terms of business. It could be part of their problem, though. It could be part of their problems. Well, I don't know. I mean, again, I think if the product in the field is better, people get over these names, right? I mean, eventually they get over it. I mean, there's a lot of dumb names out there in sports. and people have celebrated these teams as time moves on.

But, yeah, I just think, again, you've got to get the other stuff handled first. It's more important. You know, take a player upgrades in terms of the facilities is a big deal. Helps around the league, too, to see them doing the right things right away. Again, I don't think it's sent a good message outside of our area if you come in a meeting. We go, we're going to change the name. Like, all the things you can do, really, okay. Right away.

I just don't think that that's going to really excite people around, you know, look at it from the outside in. I think people, and I think, you know, I think there's some, some of those guys are just, they just want, they just want to get back to this football. And I get it. And I, I'm with them. And that's what I want to see, too. I would like to see just the focus on making the football product better as best you can.

And obviously a lot of that stuff's going to have to wait, or get to let the season play out before a lot of that stuff can take place with, with this staff and to see who's, who's who's staying or who's not. Yeah, I mean, I'll agree to disagree with you on that, because I think the majority of people that either care about the team or do. did care about the team, I think this is important to them and that they would applaud the fact that they would be looking into this. And by the way, and I've said this multiple times, they can do more than one thing at a time. You know, they're going to be looking at, you know, the number one

priority for me, which is we've got to figure out how to win. You know, we've got to get the best people into this organization and turn this organization into, you know, a competitive functioning organization. But they can do a lot of these things simultaneously. Last thing. like 20 years from now, like how will you describe Dan Snyder to somebody that, you know, is much younger? And, you know, let's just say we're talking about an organization that, you know, has had some success two decades from now, maybe won a Super Bowl or two. And somebody says, what happened from like 1999 through 2022? What will your answer be? If the phrase dumpster fire is still irrelevant, maybe I'd use that.

I mean, I would just, you know, I would maybe use like a, you know, horror movie reference, whatever the big one would be at that point. So they'd understand it was just like, again, anytime you made any progress, you just went backwards, right? Like 2012 progress, you know, injury, then, you know, the owner's interfering again, you know, Marty Schottnheimer year. Things are going well. And then he decided to fire everybody because it's not fun for you. and your second year is the owner. And just like anytime there was any type of momentum, it would just be, you know, cut from under you.

It just was so frustrating. Anytime you just never, the good times never lasted long, right? I mean, I think I would explain it that way as the best I could. But yeah, and then I would just maybe say to them, hey, just Google it. Just Google it. It's probably a really good timeline out there. It's a long story. We don't have enough time.

Right, right. Yeah. You can Google it. You can Google it. Yeah. Find some radio talk shows that might be available from like the year 20, you know, from 2015 to 2023 and you'll hear some reasons. All right. Thank you.

I appreciate you doing this. Hope you well. All right. Take care. Scott Jackson, everybody. The man that I have been confused with more than anybody else that I have ever worked with. Can't tell you how many times over the years somebody will say to me, hey man, really love your work, Scott. Really appreciate it.

And they're referring to Scott Jackson. People think that we sound alike. Anyway, Scott's a great guy. All right, up next, we go into the archives for some Chris Cooley on a certain player that he evaluated a year ago. That's next right after these words from a few of our sponsors. This segment of the show brought to you by MyBooky. Go to MyBooky.com or MyBooky.ag. use my promo code, Kevin D.C., and they'll take good care of you with the latest of their promotions.

They've got all of their NFL future stuff up at my bookie. The win totals are up for the upcoming 2020-3 season. Washington is at 7.5. They're over-under for wins in 2023. How does that compare to the rest of the division as an example? Philadelphia is at 10 and a half. The Cowboys are at 9.5. The Giants are at 8.5. Washington is at 7.5. There are two teams with lower win totals in the NFC.

You've got Tampa Bay at 6.5. And Arizona, Washington's week one opponent, with the lowest over-under total in the league, along with the Houston Texans, at 5.5. So Washington's kind of in that, I don't know, third tier of NFC teams. They're not at the bottom. with Tampa Bay and Arizona, but they're in a mix with teams like Atlanta and Carolina in Chicago with respect to their over-under total. And then you have, you know, kind of a tier above that are teams like the Giants and the Vikings and the lions. And then the top tier, really, in terms of wind totals, you're looking at are the Eagles and the 49ers, the Cowboys. Actually, the Saints have an over-under total of nine and a half at My Bucky, which is interesting. That puts them as a big favorite to win what is supposed to be one of the worst divisions in football, the NFC South.

I mean, you have a rookie quarterback in Carolina. You've got a second year guy that didn't play much in Desmond Ritter in Atlanta. And in Tampa, you know, you're either going to get, I guess, Mayfield or Trask. So with the Saints and the move they made with Derek Carr in the offseason at quarterback. And remember, they still have, no, they don't have Andy Dalton anymore. They've got James Winston. They kept James Winston to back them up. And they also drafted New Orleans did one of the quarterbacks I liked, which was Jay Caner,

the quarterback at a Fresno State. But the Saints, that's an interesting numbers. I sit here and look at that. That's a high number for New Orleans heading into this year. But I guess it's based on the fact that the rest of the division is just so inexperienced at quarterback. Anyway, mybooky.com, mybooky.com. use my promo code Kevin D.C. If there's something written in the promo code section, erase it, and write Kevin D.C. So I mentioned at the top some archived coolly. What is it about?

Well, I don't know what made me do this, but I listened to his film breakdown of Sam Howell from nearly a year ago to the day. and I just wanted to see what he said about Sam Howell. I mean, there's Sam Hal right now. It's amazing that a guy that's played one game is generating this much conversation, but it's the quarterback. It's the quarterback in Washington. We all understand that. But I, for whatever reason, decided I would listen to it.

And it's 16 minutes, roughly, his film breakdown from Sam Hal. Because I wanted to see what Kooley said a year ago. I do remember specifically what he said about Jahan Dotson. That was the film breakdown. that he did last year that to me was incredibly memorable because he essentially said that he thought Jahan Dotson would dictate coverage, would be more of a threat to defenses and defensive coordinators than even Terry McLaurin. He loved Jahan Dotson a year ago in the film breakdown, and he still thinks Jahan Dotson has some Deshawn Jackson, you know, potential in his career. But what did he say about

Sam Howe. Well, I went back and listened to it and I just thought to myself, well, maybe you guys would like to listen to it as well, because there were a couple of interesting takes in here on Sam Hal. So with that, hitting the archives, this is Cooley from a year ago on Sam Howe. All right, we have a Cooley film breakdown. He's going to do Sam Hal and he's going to do Jahan. Dotson. He wants to do Sam Howell first. I know you watched a bunch of Carolina games. Let's get to it. Go ahead. What do you think of Sam Howell? Fifth round. My notebook was open to Sam Hal. Okay. Let's do it. He's 6-1. It says 225. He looked short. Like I didn't look up his height weight before he started watching. Right. We'll get to comps, I think, at the end. One of the biggest concerns, because he was supposed to be the best quarterback in this class after the 2020 season. Right. Well, the biggest concerns was, like, he regressed throughout the year. In that fashion, he in particular doesn't necessarily remind me of Josh Allen,

but in the fashion that he went from junior year being the best quarterback in the draft to regressing the scene, which they were not good last year on offense. When you say regressing, you're saying the evaluation from, you know, in mock drafters, you know, He went from, you know, consensus number one or close to it to, you know, or a wide range going into this draft. But go ahead. To his guy, this guy's not playing as well as he did. Completion percentage is down.

Interceptions up, sacked up. Like, yeah, regress. Okay. You didn't regress? Their offensive line took a lot of losses. Right. A lot of immediate losses in the interior offensive line. Like left guard, center, right guard.

a lot of just, you better run, buddy. You better get out of here. They also, and I know you talk to their offensive coordinator, they run a ton, a ton of RPO. And they consistently throughout the year ran RPO where when he chooses the P, there is no answer for edge pressure. Like, you're just going to get hit. It's crazy.

You've got to have an answer some sort. when the quarterback can throw the ball in RPO, he can't get a hit, he can't get hit. This is another thing where college and pros very different. So if the run's going to the right on the RPO, the NFL, the backside tackle, will still block out to the left to ensure the defensive end can't just whack the quarterback. Right.

In college, it's a full commit. And even at times, they'll pull that offensive guard and offensive tackle completely to the run. leaving the backside end entirely free. There was a couple, like he played Notre Dame. If they had it down, they're like, if he pulls this, you just drill him in the back. I thought he was great in that game. I thought he was great in that game, too.

I thought he made a couple big-time throws in that game. But, I mean, as far as regression, like, he had a ton of drops this year. One, he had a ton of drops. Two, he took a ton of hits. I mean, yes, he does take some unnecessary sacks, but took a ton of hits that, You're like, I don't know if this dude needs to be taking these hits. It's got to be a better way to protect him. Or you guys getting beat up front right now.

Some of the picks is like a couple of them, I think one I'm thinking of in the Notre Dame game, throwing a back shoulder fade. You're like, the receiver, please attack the ball. It's a ball. Like you're getting a 50-50 ball in a back-shoulder fade. NFL stuff, that's an open throw. That's a catch. The receiver is not losing.

Separate at the last second and get the ball. Don't let the defender get through to it. He had a lot of NFL players in 2020. He had Diami Brown, you know, who's in Washington. He had Giovante Williams and Michael Carter, the two NFL backs. He had a better offensive line. It was less talent around him in 2021 than in 2020. Just so you know that, yeah.

Which is where that kind of reminds me of the, back to the Josh Allen thing. And Josh Allen's senior year, he's running for his life against teams like Utah State. He's making all these crazy off-script off-platform throws running around for his life. And there was like, couldn't he throw the ball from the pocket? Like, maybe, but not for Wyoming. And whatever year he played there's a senior. Right.

Because that's not available. And to some extent, like how some of it's like, yeah, you'd like him to take a different look or something else, but that wasn't available. There's a bear attack coming from the center. You've got to fight back. You've got to fight back. Can't lay down and play dead. They're stalking him.

You can't play dead. All right. So here's what I saw pros. Talking about the hits, some of the stuff, he's damn tough. Yeah. He takes hits a lot. And the other thing, he runs the ball a lot and takes hits. He knows how to slide.

Like, there's more. There's multiple times where he slides. And for me, knowing a quarterback is going to stay up and take a hit in college, trying to get a first down for your team, your senior year? I love that. Like, he knew when he was trying to get a first down, and he knew what he was trying to play. He's smart. Now, that said, unless it's third and really important in the NFL, we're not taking that shot.

He's going to have to get down every time. but I don't see that as something that he'll have a problem with doing. I think he works the pocket fairly well. I think he can move in the pocket, can manipulate the pocket space at times. Does a very good job climbing the pocket, and really when he's going to run, does a great job of climbing the pocket to then escape in the A or B gaps in the center of the pocket, instead of having to turn around backwards and do the Robert Griffin thing. Right.

To me, it manipulates pocket space really well. throw the good deep ball. I really do think he throw the catchable, consistent deep ball. I was impressed. I don't think he's got this cannon arm, but he can get the ball down. He can throw a ball 60 yards. See, that is any problem.

I think he's got pretty good release, quick release. To me, there are times when he can anticipate really well, especially to his right. you'll see him last year make a lot of throws to his right side where that receiver is still coming out of the break, which I love. I love seeing the guy being able to anticipate throws. He's creative to create well.

I think as he goes through progressions, which I don't think there was a lot in North Carolina, at North Carolina. He's capable of taking a look at the left side of the field, sliding in the pocket, and then moving to the right and making it throw. I think my opinion on not knowing exactly what they're running is it's one to two. Like it's not one, two on one side to three, four. It's one to two for him, which is fine.

One to two and then check down as run. Yeah, one to two and then three is run, yes. Or a lot of times it's one to, you better run. Right. And when he is a runner, he actually has the ability to make a man. like he's got some shifting us to him he's got some speed to him i didn't look up what he ran a 40 in but he's not slow that 4 7 something what do you think uh you run a 40 i'll see if if he ran the 40 i'll look it up 4 6s 4 7s is what he looks like he plays that something like that

biased 48 would be so let's get to what i think are some of the the the disadvantages of his game so one, let's just talk a couple things offensively that are different that he won't have an end up. First of all, he's not going to have as much RPO, and they operate so heavily in RPO that he does not have a full

game plan palette. He just hasn't done it. He hasn't seen it. He has, I'm sure his play calls are all super short. You have a huge learning curve. Doesn't mean that he's not capable of getting there, but it will be a huge learning curve to NFL offense from what he will brand at North Carolina. Two, this is interesting. A lot of college

quarterback do this. A lot of high school quarterbacks do this. They backpedal their drop out of gun. It's a weird thing to me. I don't know if I like it. Instead of just that crossover step kind of karaoke quarterback step, it's a straight back pedal. One thing I don't like about that is at times when he's thrown like an eight-yard hits or stop, he doesn't just plant and throw. You don't have to still back pedal guy.

Like, just turn and throw. We actually went through that with my quarterbacker, the quarterback at our high school a lot this year. It's like six-yard hitch and he still wants to take three steps. They're like, no, catch and throw. When you were forever and sever in football, when we were throwing a hitch, it was off a three steps. You're already three steps deep in the gun. They're not to go any deeper. So he's always in this back pedal. I think he's got super happy feet. Like he's bouncy. His level's changing. He's

bouncy. He's always on his toes. He keeps a fairly good base, so I'm not overly concerned about it. But I think some of his accuracy things, and I think he's okay with accuracy, but like not great. And I think it's technique with his base. Like he's always bouncing. You can see him up, down, up, down, bounce, bounce. So he's always throwing with almost an off platform throw every throw. He's never just throwing a step, drive throw. And that's what I think is hurting in some of his drive, like his ability to drive the ball. And I think it's hurting in his ball placement. You don't see him throw a ton of balls to a receiver hitting in stride on the run

unless it's down the field vertically. Unless it's a deep shot. Yeah, some of the deeper shots are fine, but a lot of the intermediate shots are not, I'm not saying like he's wildly inaccurate, but it's on a back hip instead of on the front hip. You know, it's on the knees, or it's above the head instead of in the chest.

He's off a little bit. But I think, and if you watch him play, you can see this. He's bouncing around, like, a lot back there. So that's something I would work on immediately. Is just getting him to stay in his base. Like, stop hopping. To me, it's almost like a receiver who jumps every time they catch the ball. Like, you don't need to jump there.

Right. It was not over your head. Just run to the ball and catch it. And that, like, when receivers do that, it essentially means they're going to drop more balls. He's always bouncing. He'll throw a lot of 50-50 balls, which I don't hate. Right.

But sometimes, in some of these, like 50-50, I mean one-on-one coverage, right? You're not just throwing it up for grab. It's not 500. It's a 50-50 ball. And they'll throw and give guys a chance when they're not necessarily open. And maybe some of this came from last year, which I didn't watch last year, a lot of. Any. Came from guys making plays on those balls.

But some of them you're like, you've got to know the guy. You've got to know the guy covering the guy because there's a couple picks. You're watching it going, I mean, that's really, it's not on you, but probably should have went somewhere else with the ball there. It's almost gross when, like, screw it. Right. You get a 50-50 ball, take it, I'll take it. In some ways, and he is a risk taker. Like, he throws some balls into some spots.

You're like, dang, I mean, I know that there was something there. It's not a guess, but maybe there was something that helps where it's almost a wrecks like. Some of those are kind of moonballish, too. You know, like what Taylor Heineke threw in Atlanta, you know, this year, where he just kind of threw it up for grass. and McLaren ended up coming down with it, you know, off his back foot on first and ten, which was not great decision-making. But, yeah, go ahead.

I'm following all this. And I think even to some extent, there's just so much wasted movement in the pocket that a lot of times, like that little tenth of a second when he's jumped, like, he's bounced, he's still got to wait until he hits his back foot to then drive and throw. He's also, especially to his left, he all, like, he takes an extra hitch. and he pats the ball an extra time to throw a route that should not take an extra hit, or the ball should not be patting. Like, you can't be back there patting the ball.

If you're going to throw it at a timing route, it's catch, set your back foot and drive. So he's just got a lot of extra movement in the pocket. It's essentially what I'm getting to. That's easy to get described that a couple times. There are times, and I don't feel like I can say anything. thing because I'm a play quarterback there, but his eyes will take him down in the pocket where he'll see the rush. I mean, that's not to say how you don't do that as much as he was getting rushed.

So to me, ultimately, like, really on the good side, like he plays a ton of confidence, plays with a ton of courage, I think he's a smart player, I think he's got a good release, good arm. On the downside, I think he's operated in an incredibly limited offense. I think his size will hinder him in the NFL. I don't think you're going to get the run ability like he does in college. I think he'll be able to run some, but I don't think that he's going to be breaking off dynamic 12, 13-yard run to get first downs as often as he did at North Carolina. So he's going to end up seeing a lot more third and eight that he's going to have to make a throw with a three-man progression that he hasn't seen.

I think that fifth round is probably a great pick for him in so much that I don't see him as a starter for at least a couple years and then ultimately I saw a lot of comps scrolling through to Baker Mayfield I definitely see some Baker Mayfield in him no doubt I see Baker I see Heineke like I really see like he's a lot like I in my opinion. With a bigger arm. I think there's some, with a bigger arm for sure.

I see some early Grossman in him, like knowing and watching Rex. I see some, like this dude's out there slinging it. I like that he played to win last year. Like he played a little hero ball and he played with confidence. I think at times there were some questions and at times there's some awesome to him. I just don't know if his high end is ever in the top 15 quarterbacks in the league. Actually, I think I do know that it's not. You know, the other guy's similarities, I saw a little bit of like Drew Locke in him.

I like Drew Locke. You like Drew Locke. So I think your best case is as a starter, just a guy. Okay. But I like him. I think he'd be a fun guy to play with. He seems I didn't watch any interviews or anything. I just, I don't think he's special. And I think probably some of it that hurts him as being six foot and maybe not quite the accuracy that you want from a quarterback.

And maybe they go hand in hand. So that was Cooley's evaluation of Sam Hal a year ago. Pretty hard to know right now whether or not Cooley will be right in his film breakdown of Sam Howell's college tape. We saw one game in the regular season from Sam Hal. My guess is, though, that Cooley will be slightly off on one part of his film breakdown. And that is, I think Sam Howe is going to be a great runner. Cooley thought he would be a tough, competitive, you know, solid runner with mobility. I think his mobility is going to be the key to the season for Washington's offense.

Some of that will have to do with the offensive line, because if their offensive lines improved and they can really run the football, there will be perhaps less pressure on him to make plays with his legs. But one thing that Cooley pointed out, and I think this was a big takeaway from listening to this yesterday, is that North Carolina ran a lot of RPO. And you know who ran a lot of RPO last year? The Kansas City Chiefs. They were top five in percentage of plays, offensive snaps, being RPO snaps, RPO plays.

And so I think we're going to see a ton of RPO. Look, Washington ran a lot of RPO last year with Taylor Heineke and with Carson Wentz. But I think that's going to be a big part of the offense. teams like, you know, the Eagles and Atlanta and Miami, the Chiefs, you know, a lot of the teams that really ran a ton of RPO. I'm not talking about read option, right? Those are two totally different things. I'm not talking about, you know, the quarterback, you know, in shotgun, and you have the ability to hand it off or run it yourself. I'm talking about the run-pass option where the quarterback sees what the defense is in at the line of scrimmage and then sticks it in the gut and then throws the football rather than running the football

or keeps it in the gut of the runner based on what he sees in terms of a defensive alignment. People sometimes get that confused. RPO and read option are not the same. The read option or the zone read is the quarterback running, or the quarterback handing it to the back. It is an option for the quarterback to keep the ball and run it himself based on what the outside linebacker or defensive end does. If the defensive end crashes, the outside linebacker crashes, he keeps it.

If the outside linebacker or the defensive end plays the quarterback, he keeps the ball in the gut of the running back and lets him take it. is run pass option. The quarterback's either handing it off to the running back or he's throwing a very quick pass with, by the way, the offensive line blocking run. And in the NFL, you only get a yard of cushion before the pass has to leave the quarterback's hands. If you're beyond a yard, it is a legal man downfield. In college, you get three yards. So you see RPO in a much slower developing sometimes RPO scheme in college than you do in the NFL.

Watch Wake Forest in their RPO scheme with Sam Hartman in the last couple of years. It's one of the slowest developing RPO looks. And it's because the down linemen have three yards of cushion before they're going to be called for a legal man. downfield. Anyway, I enjoyed going back and listening to it. I don't know what made me do it again. I have no idea, but I was thinking about Sam Howe and what Cooley thought of him a year ago, and I went back and listened to it. I also listened to his film breakdown of Jahan Dotson. I did not leave that in there. He loved Jahan Dotson. You may remember that. He thought it was a great pick, and he thinks Jahan Dotson's going to be a star. He thinks that Jahan Dotson is. He thinks that Jahan Dotson

Deshawn Jackson-esque and talked a lot about that in his film breakdown of Jahan. Maybe I'll play that, you know, one of these days coming up. Nothing like recycling. All right. Have a great day. Back tomorrow with Tommy.