The Kevin Sheehan Show - Is Quinn Reaching On Recent Promotions?

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

Kevin and Thom opened with a response to a listener who believes Dan Quinn is reaching with his recent OC and O-Line Coach promotions. The boys recapped the Indiana-Miami National Championship game la...st night in Miami. Much more on a wild NFL Playoff weekend and Kevin had early weekend snowstorm thoughts. For all your football betting needs: DCRELOAD at MyBookie for a 50% Deposit Match Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Sheehan Show. Here's Kevin. Tommy's here. I am here. The show's presenting sponsor is always Window Nation 86690 Nation or Window Nation.
Starting point is 00:00:18 com. If you need new windows, a busy show. I will talk about the storm that is headed our way this weekend. I had Doug Cameron on the radio show today. He came on with me at 11 a.m. So the second hour of the show, if you want to listen to it at the team 980.com. But I will kind of recap everything Doug said with Tommy here today. Tommy has no idea what I'm talking about because he's in Cocoa Beach,
Starting point is 00:00:49 where you informed me before the show began. This weekend, it'll be in the mid-to-upper 70s. And sunny, every day. The three best days we've had yet, among a, group of great days. You know, we used to call it the wind chill factor, but now they call it, if you look at any kind of weather app, it's the feels-like temperature, which, you know, factors in the wind. Your feels-like temperature on Saturday is 71.
Starting point is 00:01:24 So, sorry about that. That may be a bit uncomfortable for you, but we do have the possibility. of the biggest snowstorm we've had in the DMV since 2016, which is 10 years ago now, when we had a blizzard that produced two feet plus of snow. Now, the two feet would be the very, very high end on this one, but this does have a lot of potential. I will get to that either the next segment or the segment after.
Starting point is 00:01:58 We really have not planned out the show. I'm going to talk about the national champion. game last night, but I want to open the show, Tommy, with this from Lee. Lee writes, Kevin, seriously conflicted on these hires. Dan Quinn hiring a green as grass offensive coordinator, and then the same with the offensive line coach. He must be looking to get fired. Who would do this when he's coaching for his job?
Starting point is 00:02:27 I can't believe Harris will keep him if they start the season bad. on offense. I think that's badly, Lee. That's it. Like, I was looking for the conflict, because he said he was conflicted on these hires. Doesn't sound like he's conflicted at all. No. No. No, he's got one opinion
Starting point is 00:02:46 there. That's true. Yeah. Man, it's a reasonable question. It's I guess. It really is. I guess anything's reasonable, Tommy. But, I mean, I've said this before.
Starting point is 00:03:02 anybody that thinks they know anything about position coaches and starts talking, you know, as a fan or even a media member, about position coaches and what they are and what they can do and what they can't do, that's some performative BS, man. I mean, I know that, but you can speak to levels of experience. Yes, of course. But what does it mean? And I think that's what he's talking about here. coaches get elevated to coordinator positions every year across the league. How do you think they got to that a coordinator position? They don't start as a coordinator.
Starting point is 00:03:40 But not generally when there's opportunities to do better. Yeah, that's, boy, that's an interesting thing. Just remind me to tell you what Jay Gruden said about Mike McDaniel and Kevin Stephenson. Oh, I know about that. Oh, you do? Did you listen to it? No, no, no, but I saw something on social media that anybody can throw 16 bubble screens. Yeah, Jay.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I'll tell everybody right now if you miss this, Jay on Friday's podcast. It was kind of a throwaway question for me. I was just expecting him to, you know, talk, you know, the way almost everybody speaks, especially in the media and fans about Mike McDaniel. and Jay was very blunt. He's like, I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan of Mike McDaniel. He said, anybody can throw 15 bubble screens again.
Starting point is 00:04:36 He said he doesn't protect his quarterback, and he had, and this is true, he had one of the fastest teams of all time and didn't win anything. Now, that's true, but they were pretty good on offense for a couple of years, but not when it mattered. They went to playoff twice. four years and he got fired with a winning record. I tell you why, if Jay Gruden had, you know, Mike McDaniel's record, he still would have had a job. I hear you, but let me just say this about what Jay said. There are times, and there have been times over the last few years, as it relates to
Starting point is 00:05:16 Mike McDaniel, where you're like, dude, you've got to protect your quarterback. You know, you've got, like, I think he's a coordinator. Not a head coach. I'll say that. It just so happens that the commanders needed a coordinator. I very much understand that. By the way, his winning record is 35 and 33. And he went to the –
Starting point is 00:05:40 He went to the playoffs twice, and they got annihilated in the cold at Kansas City. And what was their other playoff game? The other playoff game – that was that frigid night. The other game, oh, yeah, well, they didn't have Tua for the game in Buffalo in the snow. God, they played two playoff games. The first year was at Buffalo in the snow.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And they lost 3431 with what's his face, the guy from Kansas State at quarterback. Hold on. Skyler Thompson played quarterback, and they almost won that game. Now, I say almost won that game. I don't think it ever really got super to the play. point where they could win it. And then the following year, they went to Arrowhead in one of the coldest games in the history of the league. And they couldn't function. They could not function in that game, if you recall. I mean, they were all bundled up so much. I think they were just counting,
Starting point is 00:06:41 they were just trying to run the ball and let the clock run out and get the hell out of there. But yet. But to Lee's point, I think it's a reasonable to talk about this. Look, I think it doesn't make sense for Dan Quinn to hire people that he doesn't think will help him win. Of course. Okay? I get that. Are there other
Starting point is 00:07:07 factors besides what Dan Quinn wants in play? No. I mean, what are you saying? Are you saying are there other factors like Adam Peters is making the call? I'm not following. What about money? Oh, well, let's see what happens on the defensive coordinator side.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yes. Maybe they're saving all of their money. Maybe they're saving all their money for Brian Flores. Then that would be fine. I guess it's not an unreasonable concern. I'm just telling you how I feel, which is I can't even fake being outraged or concerned. Or on the flip side, being super happy about position coaches being elevated to coordinator positions until I actually watch real games with them in those roles.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I mean, the bottom line is Dan Quinn's going to be judged on wins and losses. And the reasons for those wins or losses are going to hinge on so many things. These things included, but not just these things. you know, not just Darnell Stapleton, I saw him, I saw him, Chris Stapleton, Darnell Stapleton being elevated to O-Line coach or Shane Tau being elevated to assistant O-Line coach.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I will, I'll just mention to everybody that when this staff was put together, you know, in the, in January of 2024, one of the themes that came out of it was, and I'm not saying this is for all,
Starting point is 00:08:52 of you, but this was a common discussion. Wow. They've put together not only a really impressive staff, but a lot of depth on that staff. You know, Quinn had...
Starting point is 00:09:07 Guys who could step in. Yes. You could step in and move up. Quinn had mentioned about, you know, all of these things that he learned from the Atlantic experience. And one of those was when he lost Kyle and Kyle took McDaniel and all those guys with him to San Francisco, he didn't have a bench of coaches.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And that that's something he wanted to develop. And a lot of people, a lot of you listening, including maybe even Lee, were probably tweeting out, let them cook memes. So especially after they went 12 and 5. And so I just, I just can't, I can't get worked up over Darnell St. Stapleton and the promotion from within of coaches to coordinator positions until I have a reason to get worked up over it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Well, let me ask you this because you use these choice of words worked up. What gets you worked up these days about the Washington commanders? Not a lot. The name does, you know that, the name and the branding and all of that. That's what really gets me worked up. but I am in the mode that I have been in since this season started to unravel because I know why it unraveled. It unraveled not because Dan Quinn's a bad coach and Adam Peters is a terrible general manager and Jaden Daniels is a horrible quarterback and Cliff Kingsbury doesn't know what he's doing. It unraveled because their best players didn't play.
Starting point is 00:10:46 So next year, if their best players play, I think it'll be much different. Now, let me isolate out defense because going into this season, before the injuries became the reality of this season, my number one concern, number one unknown was, did they get better on defense? Because if they didn't get better on defense, they might be able to win nine, ten games in you know, get back to the postseason as a wild card, but they're not going to compete with the best teams in the NFC. They're not going to win a division against a team like Philadelphia. And I did, you know, leave this season believing that the injuries impacted defense, but even if they had been healthy defensively, it wasn't going to be a good defense.
Starting point is 00:11:40 So what's got me worked up actually, let me answer it again, is I want to. want to see what they do to improve this defense, and I want to see what they do at coordinator. I think this is this higher, which is going to come from the outside. The defensive side is coming from the outside. One of the reasons I'll just point out that all of the elevations from the inside have been internal is because I think it's what the quarterback is comfortable with. And the offense wasn't the problem last year. injuries were the problem, but then with the players they played with, defense was much more of the
Starting point is 00:12:21 problem than the offense was. Now, that offense was coordinated by a man who is no longer here in Cliff Kingsbury. But yeah, I, that's, that's it. I, I just, I don't even respond to the people that give me their thoughts on, on players and coaches and stuff from the, this past season, I just think it's a near impossible evaluation of this past year. I would have never, in my right mind, called for Dan Quinn and Adam Peters to be fired after a season in which essentially 60 to 70 percent of their best players barely played, and 90 percent of their best players didn't play the whole season. So that's just not reasonable, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:13:18 But I do think, and I don't know where Mike McDaniels going to wind up. He could wind up in Philadelphia, you know. Yeah, what if he doesn't, though? Well, I think he'll get an OC job. I do too. I do too. But, you know, when Jay said that to me the other day, let me just mention this because I don't want to lose this thought. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I thought he, I felt like, and he and I talked a little bit after we recorded the show the other day, I don't think he's the only person in the sport that feels that way. Well, that could be an anti-Shanahan thing going on. He's never anti-Shanahan. Never. Okay. He was a bit anti-Rivera. But a lot of those Shanahan coaches started with his brother.
Starting point is 00:14:05 You know, a lot of those guys actually had jobs with him, working for his brother before they got into the Shanahan group. Yeah. I just think that the Mike McDaniel, David Blow, debate is a legitimate one. If you think that they could have gotten Mike McDaniel. Well, what would be the reason that they couldn't? Other than him getting a head coaching job. Well, you have to start with if McDaniel ends up being an offensive coordinator.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Because if he ends up being a head coach, it's not a – I'm operating under that premise. Okay. This is the guy. Dan Quinn saved this guy's life. Yeah. Well, let me give you a couple of reasons why Mike McDaniel might choose Baltimore, Detroit, or even Philadelphia before, you know, coming to Washington and working
Starting point is 00:14:59 with Dan Quinn. Number one would be those teams are just overall better. Number two is their quarter. the quarterback situation in Baltimore is certainly debatably as good, if not better. And because the teams are better overall, he might think his opportunity to be a head coach much sooner rather than later after next season would be to be on a team that has a chance to win it all. And I think going into next year, you would still say right now, Detroit, and Philly would still be favored over Washington.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And maybe even Baltimore would, I don't know. But that would, I'm just, I'm just spitball in here, Tommy. Like, I think Washington would certainly be in the mix, but it's possible that, you know, from the jump. And the other part of this is that if Quinn had waited for McDaniel, he may have lost Blow. And I think they wanted Blow all along. I know that.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I think they would have lost Blow. Yeah. Yeah. I think they would have. Right. I mean, this guy, this guy had better be awfully good if it was such a sense of urgency to keep him. And as far as the whole connection with Jane Daniels, you know, Mike McDaniels and speak a different language. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I mean, this is, this is not. How do you? Although McDaniel does a little bit. He does a little bit. Jane Daniels is not a prima donna. Let's not make them out to be one. Right. I hear you.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Look. But as far as the other ones, you know, like the offensive line coach and all that, you're right. We don't, I mean, there's nothing,
Starting point is 00:16:58 we don't have a clue about what's going on there. Nobody does. Not one person that maybe you listen to or read or whatever when they start talking about, in being an expert about Darnell Stapleton and Shane Taub. It's okay for them to say, hey, in talking to people, this is what they say about these guys. That's how we found out about Blow.
Starting point is 00:17:23 But we don't know what Blow, you know, what makes him so great. I mean, I read what Ben Johnson said about him to Nikki Javala on the show yesterday. He was very complimentary. But see, there's a big deal. Let me mention this real quickly. The offensive line coach is a big spot. It's a very important position. So I hope Darnell Stapleton is the right guy for it, because that's not, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:49 when you're talking about after the coordinators, offensive and defensive, the next most important coach might be the O-line coach. You could certainly make that case. And so that is a big hire. But for me to break down Darnell Stapleton versus somebody else that was available, is, you know, just as you said, talking about the experience thing. But here's the difference between Stapleton and Blow. We're Blow and a lot of coaches right now throughout the league
Starting point is 00:18:23 who are being elevated from within to, you know, big-time positions or even hired from the outside, is that Blow we know was sought after. Blow has a reputation that precedes his actual performance at that position because three teams wanted him last year. Detroit wanted him this year, and if he hadn't been taken off the market so quickly, several teams would have been reaching out to try to interview David Blow. Doesn't make everybody right. I know.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I know. I mean, like I wrote in my column about this, the headphones get a little bit tighter when you're the offensive coordinator. Yeah, I know. They may not be right. Everybody knows you can't be invisible. Like, nobody could actually describe what the quarterback coach does. So I actually asked the commanders to describe what his game day duties were.
Starting point is 00:19:19 And I wrote that in my column. What did they say? Everyone knows. I asked the commanders to describe the assistant quarterback's coach's game day duty. Okay. Yeah. I wrote that in my column because we don't, we didn't know. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:38 No, of course not. But everybody's going to know what the offensive coordinator does. And there's just, like I've said with lots of jobs, there's a big difference when you step into the limelight. Sure. Agreed. No matter how much of a genius you are. Look, none of this replaces this thought. Quinn better get it right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:02 He better have gotten it right. But remember, there are a lot of things in addition to these elevations and hirings that will lead to winning and losing. And those things we can't even predict right now. And so let's just say, let me ask you this question. Let's just say they went 10 and 7 next year. They won a playoff game lost in this past round in the divisional round. good season, defense was improved,
Starting point is 00:20:33 offense was really good, Jaden had a really good season, but one of the problems that they had throughout the season was that offensive line that we thought was going to be so great, turned out it wasn't great. They had communication issues. The quarterback was so good that he was able to overcome it,
Starting point is 00:20:53 and the defense was improved, and the schedule broke right for them. I mean, are we going to look back and say, well, he got Stapleton wrong. He should be fired. Like, no. Look back and say, because this is another reasonable question, if you're a fan, why did they fire Bobby Johnson? The offensive line was probably their strongest position,
Starting point is 00:21:20 and they fired their offensive line coach. Now, I've read it's because of the system. them, the style, that, you know, he was the Kingsbury guy, and they want to get out of that. But why did they fire a coach whose players seem to perform well? Good question. That's a good question. I don't, I don't. I think that's a fair question.
Starting point is 00:21:50 At the end of the year. Somebody knows the answer. I'll get you an answer to that. I might get you an answer to that before. this shows up. I didn't even think about reaching out to ask why. I mean, that happened last week, right? It happened when they got rid of Kingsbury.
Starting point is 00:22:09 It was like a package deal. Yeah, I mean, look, I thought there was a chance, and Ben brought this up to me, that, you know, a Brian Johnson, who was an offensive coordinator for the Eagles, not getting the OC job, could lead to him saying, I'm going to go somewhere else, because I'm not, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Now, Anthony Lynn, I'm pretty sure, is older and probably likes the situation, and isn't really more likely than not going to get that opportunity to be a head coach anymore. He might. I don't know that he won't, but it doesn't seem like anybody's, you know, breaking down, you know, doors to get to Anthony Lynn. And he's actually, he's 57, for whatever reason I thought he was older than that. but he certainly could be a coordinator again, and it doesn't look like he's going to be a coordinator here, although would that be interesting, actually? You know, you never know how things will go.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And if you look at Anthony Lynn and even a Brian Johnson, they just elevated a 30-year-old, never done it before kid to be their offensive coordinator. And yet, if they got that guy right, he might end up being a head coach. I mean, Ben Johnson said he's going to be a head coach before you know it. And everybody's said that. He could end up being a head coach next year somewhere as the hot OC that everybody's got to have.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And 58-year-old Anthony Lynn might end up being the offensive coordinator in 2027. Like, you just never know. Like, if you don't have a much better opportunity, if, you know, somewhere else, stick around, man, because sometimes it actually does work out. Sometimes it doesn't. But I don't know. I don't know much about Anthony Lynn's mindset. Ben had suggested that Brian Johnson is, you know, a guy that might.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And Brian Johnson is younger, I believe. I think he is. He's got to be in his 40s, right? Yeah. I would think he's not in his 40s. He's 38. Yeah, he's much younger. So he may decide, I got to go put myself into a position where I can become an offensive coordinator again and eventually a head coach.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Unless he loves being here and loves blow. And sometimes the guys in the room are looking around saying, yeah, he is the guy. I get it. You know, there could be that going on. I don't know. Here's the bottom line. Quinn's got to have a good season next year. You know, there's context around everything.
Starting point is 00:24:49 but, you know, if he has a bad season and it's not because they were decimated by injuries again, he could definitely be in big trouble this time next year. No doubt. I mean, it would. I agree. I'll tell you what, man, this would have been the year, though. I guess, no, I guess it would have been and it wouldn't have been in terms of, you know, the coaching availability. There's so many good coaches out there, and yet there's so many opportunities.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Yeah. I mean... Like Buffalo. Like Buffalo. Well, I mean, coaching in Buffalo, yeah, and coaching Josh Allen. Like, I think about what happened in Buffalo here, you know, during the McDermott years. This was a franchise that was just a bit better than ours for like 20 years, you know? I mean, they didn't... I'm looking it up right now. I think it was border.
Starting point is 00:25:51 It was close to like 20 years that they didn't go to the postseason. They didn't go to the postseason. 99 was their last year. So from 2000 to 2016, so 17 seasons, no playoffs. Then they hire Sean McDermott. They also draft Josh Allen, understood. But actually in that first year that McDermott was the head coach, They made it to the playoffs and lost to Jacksonville 10 to 3.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And the quarterback, I think it was Tyrod Taylor because Josh Allen got drafted that spring. Yeah, it was Tyrod Taylor. So in his first year, he makes the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor. Then they draft Josh Allen. They didn't make the playoffs. And then they made it six consecutive years and made it to two AFCs. title games. So he went to the playoffs seven times in eight years, Sean McDermott did, and he rolled up, listen to this record, 98 and 50, 16 and 8 in the, I'm sorry, 8 and 8 in the playoffs, 2 AFC title
Starting point is 00:27:08 appearances, and he's gone. He didn't have the run that Harbaugh and Tomlin had. I mean, he coached nine years, half of what they coached. Man, There was a time in which we would have paid big money for that kind of a run. Oh, yeah. And, God, they're so, like, look at one play, one call in overtime. And if they, you know, and if they get that one, I mean, they still got to go to New England. I mean, think about the great games Josh Allen played and lost to Mahomes or Burroughs. or borough.
Starting point is 00:27:52 It's a tough business, man, because Sean McDermott, he wasn't successful. He was wildly successful. Yes. All right. Want to talk about the NFL playoffs? Want to talk about the national championship game?
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Starting point is 00:33:29 I loved the game last night. I mean, this was really an entertaining college football season. The college football playoff as a whole was very entertaining. We had a couple of really good games in the first round. We had two spectacular games
Starting point is 00:33:48 in the quarterfinals. We had the Miami-Hole Miss semifinal game, which was probably the best game. of the entire tournament. And then we had Indiana winning last night in a thriller 27 to 21. Did you watch it? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I watched it. Did you go to a place maybe to watch it with other Miami fans? No, I didn't because I figured it'd have to get there at least an hour and a half before to get a seat. I mean, because it would be pretty filled up. I watched the Miami Old Miss. game at a bar and it was packed with people. So, no, I did. I watched it in the confines of our condo. And I enjoyed it. I agree with it. It was a very entertaining game and Miami made it a game. Yeah, they really did. First of all, did you know last night, and they put this up during
Starting point is 00:34:46 the game, that the average, what they call get-in price, get into the stadium to see the game price, was $4,380. I'd read stories that the lowest price was like $3,200. Yeah, and the Indiana fans, first of all, did we already talk about this, that Indiana's got the largest alum base of any university in the United States around the world? Did we talk about that?
Starting point is 00:35:17 We haven't talked about it. That was a shocking piece of news. Me too. Why was it shocking to you? According to the crowd, the crowd last night was an Indiana crowd in Fort Lauderdale. Yeah, I mean, the game that they played against Oregon, Scott told me, Stanford Steve told me it was 80, 20, 90, 10, literally Indiana fans. Stanford Steve was on radio with me today and I talked to Scott this morning and they said it was more 50-50-ish last night, maybe 55-45 or 60-40 Indiana to Miami fans. But yeah, I mean, it's a national championship game.
Starting point is 00:35:52 It's not a home game for Miami, even though it was played in their home stadium. But why was it surprising to you that Indiana had the largest alum base of any university in the United States? Well, I would have thought it would be something like Penn State. Something like Penn State, I would have thought, would have been the largest. Right. Yeah. I thought, you know, I think this is true. I should have done this before the segment started.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Largest undergrad. I think Arizona State has the largest undergrad student body of any school in the country. I think that's true. It may be Texas A&M. Here it is. UCF, the University of Central Florida, has 60,000 undergrads. Texas A&M, 60,000 undergrads, and then Arizona State has 50,000. I thought Arizona State had like 80,000 with all of their satellite campuses.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So I would have guessed that it would have been a school like that, not Indiana, which has a much smaller undergrad. I think it's like 25,000. But I think part of it is that in these super big state schools, Tommi. And Indiana is a big state school. Indiana, by the way, 38,000 undergrads, all right? 38,000 on average. Is that, you know, in a place like Arizona State
Starting point is 00:37:29 with all the satellite campuses and UCF, which is kind of a commuter school, I think, there are a lot less graduates. The graduation percentage is much lower than it might be at Indiana. That's my only, to me that makes sense. I don't, but I might be wrong. I don't know. I was shocked to hear that Indiana had the biggest alum base.
Starting point is 00:37:53 They're certainly spending good money, Mark Cuban and company. Yes, they are. I loved the game. I thought it was a hard hitting game. I mean, they really got after Mendoza legally and illegally in that first half. They bloodied him with a dirty hit, a very late hit. But I've loved watching Miami all year long, Tommy. their defense has been so good. Their offensive line has been good, but man, Indiana's defense kind of controlled that in the first half.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I thought the key sequence of the game was in the third quarter after Miami ripped off that first big touchdown run where they really started to get on a roll offensively, and Fletcher broke the 57-yard touchdown run to make it 10 to 7. and they got the ball back after a punt that Malachi Tony, who is, you know, looks like Tariq Hill, plays like Tariq Hill, and he's going to be exciting at the next level. I mean, he's a freshman, so it'll be a couple of years. But when he fielded that punt in the third quarter at the three-yard line returned it to the six, and then three plays later they were punting and the punt was blocked for a touchdown, I thought that was a major, major gaff.
Starting point is 00:39:10 and I really thought Miami had a lot of momentum. If they take over at their own 20, that ball would have gone into the end zone. You probably don't get the block punt. But they got it back. They had a chance. I mean, Carson Beck got hot, you know, started throwing the ball. They had two long drives, and they'd scored 21 points in the second half when they didn't score in the first half, and they got the ball back after holding them to a field goal at the end.
Starting point is 00:39:40 and I thought Beck was going to do it. I mean, he did it against Ole Miss. His story's been such a good one. I've been a fan of his all year long. Georgia just sent him on his way after that serious injury, that UCL injury to his elbow against Texas in the SEC championship game. People didn't think he'd play again. And he's been great in this postseason.
Starting point is 00:40:07 He was great against Ohio State. he was incredible against Ole Miss, and I thought he was going to do it. Stanford Steve told me on radio today, and I think he's right. On that final drive, the roughing the passer hit on Carson Beck, dinged him up a little bit. He was not right the rest of that drive, and he threw the pick, and it was a bad pass. It was underthrown. He shouldn't have thrown it there in the first place, but it was underthrown. If he throws it deep, it's probably just incomprehend.
Starting point is 00:40:39 He may have been a little bit dinged up on that final drive after that hit that gave him a first down. But I hate that that interception is going to stick with him. I hope Miami fans remember him getting them to the game last night because they hadn't been back there in a quarter century. And it was a great game. Really a great game. And the Indiana story is, it's an amazing story, right? it's a remarkable story punctuated by the amazing story of Mendoza.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Yeah. You know, that guy. I mean, that play was so dramatic that 12-yard run he had. It was just, it was all hard. I mean, it was all hard. Yeah, I mean, he went airborne and he's been incredible all year. And last night was the first.
Starting point is 00:41:37 time this year, he's been beaten up and bloodyed a bunch. Ohio State did a really good job against them. Penn State, not as much. Penn State had a chance to beat him. But last night, when you talk about Ruben Bain and Messador and that defensive line and that defense in general, look, they got that player who was suspended with the targeting penalty in the Ole Miss game back in the second half. And you could tell they were a different team, my Miami was in the second half. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:42:12 In the second half, tremendous, yes. And Mendoza is going to be picked first overall by the Raiders. I mean, look, he's a bit, you know. He's so anti-Rater. Anti-Rater. I mean, he really is. There's some stuff going on there, but he's a great player, and there's a lot going on with Signetti,
Starting point is 00:42:36 but he's a great coach. You know, they are the ESPN has them as the all way too early preseason number one in the country next year. They're picking up Josh Hoover, who had a really good season at TCU. He's transferring. He's going to be their starting quarterback. The brother, Mendoza's brother, who was on that team, is going to transfer from Indiana with his brother not there. But moving out. But I mean, this isn't, they're going to be preseason.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I mean, I don't know what it will look like when we get to, you know, AP and coaches poll in August. But the all too early has them as the number one team going into next year. And they got a great receiver that transferred into the program. So crazy that Indiana is where they are. You know, you saw a lot of the quote about Signetti that he had when he first got hired. Indiana. He said, Google, I win.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Google me. Oh, yeah. I mean, I remember thinking this guy's, he's nuts. And I'll tell you, last year, it was a bit much at times with him, you know. But, I mean, in all fairness to people like me who were, you know, not necessarily believers in that Indiana was going to be what they were. I mean, last year was an amazing season, and they were really good. but they weren't as good as they were this year. But I mean, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:44:08 I mean, it's Indiana. I mean, in this day and age with salary cap in particular, and then NIL, but they didn't have, they weren't loaded with five-star guys. No, they weren't. They didn't have five-star guys. They didn't spend the most money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Yeah. I mean, he was with Nick Sabin at Bama for a few years, And then he took that job at Indiana University, Pennsylvania. University, I-U-P. Yeah. And he went. The Pennsylvania State Conference. So where his dad coached?
Starting point is 00:44:47 And he coached there for six years, went to Elon, and then became the head coach of James Madison. And now he's a national championship coach at 64 years old and has the preseason number one team maybe in the country coming back next year. it's insane. It's a great story. It's a great story. One of the things in reading about his story,
Starting point is 00:45:11 and I don't know if everybody knows this, but he was at NC State for five or six years, and he was the quarterbacks coach at NC State. He coached Philip Rivers when Rivers was just an unbelievable, one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever quarterback in the ACC. By the way, on Senior Day, Maryland went down to Raleigh and beat NC State on Philip Rivers' senior day. He was the ACC player of the year. But Signetti coached Philip Rivers.
Starting point is 00:45:45 I didn't know this until last week. There was this thing on him. And then he was the guy that recruited Russell Wilson to NC State. Now, Russell Wilson ended up, you know, transferring to Wisconsin. Wisconsin. But Russell Wilson was good at NC State. So Signetti was Russell Wilson's quarterback's coach and was the key figure in recruiting Wilson who grew up in Richmond, right? I'm pretty sure Russell Wilson grew up in Richmond. He went to that private school, the collegiate school, I think it's called. The only reason I know it is a buddy of mine's
Starting point is 00:46:20 kids go to that school. But he was there. And then from NC State went to Bama. and was part of Sabin's, you know, first coaching staff at Bama when he got there in 2007. So it's not like he went from IUPA or whatever it is, Indiana University, Pennsylvania, you know, like he just happened to have been coaching there and muddling around in Division I, double seven college football, and then, you know, got the job at Madison. He had some really good influences along the way and was part of that staff at NC State. I'm forgetting the coach's name because it was in this piece that I was watching.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Whatever. But they had really good teams. He's something else, man, isn't he, though, as an interview? Yes. All right, I enjoyed the game. I'll tell you one thing, just nitpicking a bit. I don't know what he was doing at the end of the first half with timeouts. I mean, he blew an opportunity to score a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:47:29 But yeah, really exciting college football season. Here's the thing. Next year's national championship game, January 25th. I know. That's not good. Part of that is because Labor Day is much later this coming year. I think that's why it is. I think we make that jump to where Labor Day is, so everything gets started later, including the NFL season.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Labor Day, this upcoming September is September 5th. So that's a, you know, that's a much later Labor Day. Actually, September 7th is Labor Day this coming year. I see September 5th. That's a Saturday. Hold on. I'm looking at a calendar that says September 5th. I'm going to now look at my phone calendar, 2026.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Are you looking at 2027? No, I'm looking at 2026. You're right. It's September 7th. On my calendar, on my desktop here, in front of me, it says that Monday, September 226 is the 5th. you've got a defective calendar i have a defective calendar i'm looking right at it i'm looking right at september 5th but you're right it's september 7th so that that is as late well it's the latest it can be
Starting point is 00:49:05 because that's right yeah because it's the i think you can i think labor day can be anywhere from august 31st to september 7th or september 1st through september 7th or 8th i don't know who knows That was fun, wasn't it? Let's talk NFL playoff games. I'm going to get your reaction to the four games from over the weekend. We'll do that after these words from a few of our sponsors. Hey, guys, I've been telling you about Gold Belly now for a while. It's this amazing site that I order from where you can get the most iconic famous foods from restaurants all across the United States.
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Starting point is 00:52:58 You can't get this at five guys or any other place like that. Yeah. You got to go to... And we like five guys, but it's not a Shelly's burger. I love five guys. Yeah. Yes. But you got to go to Shelly's to get this unique blend of Angus Ground Shuck,
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Starting point is 00:54:15 Oh, God, you hit me at that time a day. where there's a lot of food noise going around to my head. You know, I haven't eaten since this morning I actually had breakfast. I don't, I usually have coffee and then maybe, you know, a yogurt or something, some cereal. This morning I actually, I made myself some breakfast on me. I had two eggs. I had coffee and I had some sourdough toast to go along with it, along with, I think I
Starting point is 00:54:49 Did I tell you that I do something now every day That I eat like a cup full of spinach Raw spinach every day Do you really? Yeah I love spinach I love spinach but it's considered a superfood And so I try to do
Starting point is 00:55:07 You know some of these superfoods blueberries spinach You know just I'll just yeah I get I get a thing of spinach I have it right here in my studio too in the refrigerator in the kitchen. I have a thing of spinach and I'll just grab a handful of it. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Well, that's good. That doesn't really offset all of the bad stuff that I eat and drink. But that's okay. That's good. That's good to consume those soup. I had a couple of superfoods this morning. I had some ruffles,
Starting point is 00:55:36 shipped, had some lornadoon cookie. Yeah, sure. You know? I remember when I bought you those lorn dunes or whatever they're called? Yeah. But when you hit me, One of the things we've done down here, because it kind of feels like you're on vacation,
Starting point is 00:55:53 even when they're drilling, especially when they're drilling. We've gone out to breakfast a lot. Yeah, that's... Also, we went to them. I love going out to breakfast. Me too. More so than dinner or lunch. Love going out to breakfast.
Starting point is 00:56:07 So tell me about your spot for breakfast. Well, it's a place called Joanne's. It's a local spot. You know, lots of local decor and all that. and we went there, and we also went to IHawk nearby. You love I-Hawks. And there is, look, there's a Waffle House here that I'm very familiar with. Okay, when I come here on spring training, and I stay right down the road,
Starting point is 00:56:35 and the Waffle House was my go-to stop when I'd be heading home about two in the morning. And it's, this is saying a lot, okay, as far as Waffle House, It's one of a rougher waffle houses you'll ever find. Really? Do you mean the crowd? The crowd or the setup and food? No, the crowd. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:58 The crowd. Yeah. I swore one night when I was there, I was the only person in the place with two eyes. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, and by the way, all of those dudes are just looking for somebody to say something the wrong way or give a wrong look. that's why there's so many videos of Waffle House fights Yeah, true You know, the
Starting point is 00:57:22 The IHop Tommy They're one of the best sperm banks In the entire Cocoa Beach area is right next to that IHop Do you know Do you know what that reference is from? Come on Remember when Jan's pregnant And Kevin
Starting point is 00:57:44 You know, calls back to Michael and says you got to come see something. And Michael goes to the supermarket and Jan comes out holding her stomach. And Michael says, oh my God. And then she breaks the news that it's not him. And he said, well, I thought I told you the one thing to never do is to cheat on me. And she said, I didn't cheat on you. And he said, well, I know it doesn't come from toilet seats.
Starting point is 00:58:10 You know, the rumors about that. And she said, I went to a sperm bag. And then there's the cutaway where she said, you know, I'm down to my last shot here. If I was much younger, I'd give Michael a shot. But, you know, I got to make this one count. And then she tells him about the sperm bank. And he goes, a sperm bank. And she goes, yeah, and it's one of the best ones.
Starting point is 00:58:34 It's right next to that place, you know, where we go to breakfast, where you love the little things that you can draw crayons on. And he goes, I hop. And she goes, I hop. Exactly. That's such a great scene. Their dynamic was phenomenal on that show. I always feel like Jan gets way underrated as to how great she was on that show. Absolutely. So see if there's a sperm bank near the IHop.
Starting point is 00:59:07 But you like, but Joanne's sounds like it's probably a nice place. It is. It is. There's actually a dead east. nearby, you know, there's no shortage of breakfast places. Right, but I'm trying to find the local spots, not the chains here. So Joanne's is a local spot, right? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Yes. So what do you do you get the, what do you get for breakfast? You don't eat very much. I mean, you're very picky. So what do you get for breakfast? Cheese omit. Uh-huh. Ash brown.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Right. Toast, wheat toast, buttered. Yep. That's it. All right. Okay. And I don't drink coffee. I usually get a glass of milk.
Starting point is 00:59:54 By the way, for any, for people listening out there, do you know what Fair Life milk is, Tommy? Do you know the brand? I've seen it before. If it milk that lasts like 100 years or something like that? Yeah. I mean, it is the absolute rage in terms of a product. I think we've been buying this Fair Life, you know, 2%. and fat-free for, I don't know, two years, three years, something like that.
Starting point is 01:00:21 You know, my wife discovered it. It's fine. It's milk to me. It's fine. But there is a run on fair life milk every time it gets delivered to a grocery. I've gone to grocery stores now to get fair life milk for my wife on the way home from work. Three times in the last month and a half. And they've been completely out of it.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Completely out of it. she ordered she did a grocery order online last night from Wegmans uh we're out of Fair Life milk I mean I don't think I've ever heard of a product that's milk like it's it's a staple that's this hot now of course people buy a lot of milk and eggs and bread and the whole thing especially by the way with a storm on the way right but this one product it can be the middle of summer it doesn't matter it's like it's
Starting point is 01:01:15 they need to up their game when it comes to manufacturing this product. I mean, they're missing out on a lot of potential sales. Okay. Given your background in the grocery business, I think you could offer some help. Well, I mean, replenishment and all of that, the logistical stuff around that, we did all of that. I didn't really understand it. That wasn't necessarily my area.
Starting point is 01:01:41 All right. Let's get to these four playoff games. I talked about each one of the four yesterday. I mean, the first game and the last game were spectacular, the Buffalo, Denver game, and then the Bears Rams game. And I did, and you mentioned this to me before the show, but I did give you credit for saying on the show last week that you would have, I'm pretty sure you said you would have considered starting Davis Mills in front of C.J.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Stroud in the game against the Patriots. Now, I'm not sure I said that. I did say I would have been Stroud in the game that they even won, you know, because he was terrible in that game, too. Yeah, I thought it led to, wouldn't you consider starting him against New England? But whatever. I'll tell you what, there had to be serious
Starting point is 01:02:36 conversation about it. Now, D'Amico Rines didn't say there was. But I, I want to get your thoughts on these four games because I spent 30 minutes going through each one of these games. I'll just tell you that C.J. Stroud was terrible, but he was not helped out by his coaching staff at all. They dropped the poor guy back 50 times in that game when they couldn't protect him and he didn't have his best receivers. And they had a defense where I honestly believe that if they had run the ball three times and punted over and over and over again, they probably would have won the game or they would have had a much better chance of winning it with that defense. So go ahead.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Let's start with that game. What's the coach's name, Camico Ryan? Yeah, I like him. I think he's done a really good job. I like him too. But Jesus, put a hat on. You know, the steam was just pouring off his head. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Yeah, it was rough weather on Sunday in both of those venues. Yeah. Wear a hat, for God's sakes. well, the Bill's Broncos game was a tremendous game. Yeah. Absolutely tremendous. And such a remarkable ending that we didn't think wasn't ending. We thought the game was already over.
Starting point is 01:03:53 And then they come out and say bone neck is broken his ankle. Crazy. That was so crazy. What did you make of Sean Payton breaking the news in the press conference right away? Did you read what he said as to why he did it that way? No. He said... He said...
Starting point is 01:04:08 I give him a lot of credit for doing it. Okay, so I wanted to know what you thought. So you give them a lot. Why do you give them a lot of credit for doing it? Well, because, I mean, it's big news. It's not like they can hide it. You know, you can't hide it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:24 So, you know, you could come out and say it right away. I'm looking for the exact quote. I'm going to end up paraphrasing it here. But basically, Peyton said, hold on, I may have it right here. The motivation Peyton said in so many words to break the news himself right after the game was he feared that the news outlets would break this story. He wanted his team by way of another press conference podium address to hear it from himself. So Peyton went back to the press conference room to announce Nix's injury and the surgery on Tuesday. Oh, so I guess he had left the press conference and then went back.
Starting point is 01:05:06 He said, quote, I would have liked to have talked to the team first, but half the locker room had left. There's no way that story survives until Monday when I talk to the team. I don't want the team to hear from you guys all first or any national media first, because that story is going to break in 24 hours. Well, that was smart. That was smart of them to do. And this is a guy who can be really nasty to reporters sometimes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:35 you know, Peyton Ken. So I don't think he did it out of the goodness of his heart. I think it's always smart to try to control the story. Right. And he grabbed control of it right away. But by doing that, you're not going to hide it. You're not going to cover it up. What did you think about the controversial call in that game at the end in overtime?
Starting point is 01:05:57 The catch? The Cook's catch that was, you know, an interception by Jake Martin. I thought it was an interception. You did? Did I think so right away? I kind of did, but I wasn't sure. And then in the various replays, there was one final angle that showed me that I really thought it was an interception. But what I didn't like was how the referees gave it the Bums Rush.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Yeah. You know, how they, there wasn't some time taken to really examine what happened there. Walt Anderson, the spokesperson for NFL officials. Here's the quote. I read it and responded to it on the show yesterday. He said, even without a full-blown replay review, every play is being reviewed by multiple people. If you can confirm the ruling on the field was correct,
Starting point is 01:06:51 they want to move the game along, closed quote. Too important. Too important to play. I can't believe he was. would say that. It's such a terrible thing to say that they rushed it because they wanted to move the game along. Like, hurry up for what? Seattle, San Francisco? They want to, you can make the case that the game would have been over sooner had they reviewed it and ruled it a catch. They didn't know what they would come up with. It was way too rushed. McDermott was right to be frustrated about that.
Starting point is 01:07:26 He had to call a time out because there's no, you know, there's no challenges in overtime. No, that was, I mean, I think it was an interception, but I really thought the officials handled it poorly. I think it was certainly important and questionable enough to take the time to review. I've watched this so many times. I've read the rule. I understand the rule, you know, and some of you tweeted me because I was reading it right before Tommy and I started to record about my take, which was, I thought it was a catch. And I still think it's a catch. and I understand the rule.
Starting point is 01:08:02 It's just it's a difference of opinion. I understand that he has to survive the ground on the catch. I thought he did with control of the ball. And then I thought McMillan took the ball from him on the ground in which he survived. I get that, you know, this wasn't the same as the play during the Rams game. This wasn't the Devante Adams catch. He had already completed the process of the catch, and then he was down. His knee was down on the ground.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I get the difference, for those of you that were trying to be condescending and say, you clearly don't understand the rule. I do understand the rule. I get it. He has to complete the process of the catch and survive the ground. There are replays that show him surviving the ground, and in a worst case, both players holding onto the ball, and in that case, tie goes to the runner.
Starting point is 01:09:08 So I just, tie goes to the offense, excuse me, not the runner. I just think that he had survived the ground. And I think the biggest mistake, Tommy, made was that Cooks didn't get up and argue it. He should have gotten up and been incredibly outraged at the call and said, you know, I'm on the ground. I survived the ground. it was the right, unless he thought it was the right call. Well, yeah, but it doesn't matter. You can't, you've got in a close call situation.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Sometimes it's just the reaction from the player that at the very least is going to make them go through the process that we didn't seem to think they were very interested in going through because apparently they wanted to move things along. I mean, according to Walt Anderson, that's insanity. What do you, you, you've got a divisional playoff game. Josh Allen just threw an absolute dime to Cooks. They're in field goal range to end the game to get to the AFC championship game. And we had multiple people looking at.
Starting point is 01:10:09 We didn't need a full-blown replay because we had multiple people that watched it that confirmed the ruling on the field was correct. That was way too close to confirm the ruling on the field was correct without a full-blown replay review. And then to say they wanted to move the game along is really, really, really not the thing to say in a moment like that. With the issues that, you know, have popped up with officiating. I mean, I'm not a conspiracy theorist with all of the conspiracy theories about officiating.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I just think sometimes they make mistakes. But you can't say we wanted to move the game along. That's absurd. But it was a great game, though. That was phenomenal. I mentioned yesterday, Tommy. I thought a lot of the conversation, and I'm not saying that, you know, I'm not trying to create like straw man here. I read a lot about criticism, a lot of criticism for Josh Allen. I thought he played great.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I think he made mistakes. He obviously turned the ball over four times, but without them, they would have had zero chance to win the game. He made so many great plays in the game that outnumbered the mistakes. And the truth is they survived the mistakes. and if Brandon Cooks doesn't have the ball ripped away from him, they're kicking a field goal to win the game, and he's got three turnovers instead of four, but they still would have lost the turnover battle and won the game. I'm a big Josh Allen fan. I think this guy is so good, so good.
Starting point is 01:11:47 And he was banged up, and they were down to receivers, and they had a lot of stuff going on. And now we get Denver without their starting course. quarterback in the AFC championship game. Yeah, you know, I read something interesting about that. Where is it here? I guess. Anyway, the first free agent that Sean Peyton signed was Stinnett.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Stittem. He got to Denver. Jared Stidtham, yeah. Stidham, yeah. When he got to Denver. Yep. The first guy he signed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:20 So he obviously has a lot of confidence in this guy and wanted him. So I don't think they're that, look, I don't think they're that bad off. Well, you know who was the first coach to really like Jared Stidham, and he drafted him fourth round, 2019 out of Auburn. Was the Patriots, right? Yep, Bill Belichick. Yeah. Stidham, it's, Stidham's name has popped up in conversation so many times over the years
Starting point is 01:12:49 since he came into the league, because I think everybody just assumed, well, the Patriots know something about this guy. and then Sean Peyton, you know, signs him immediately. And so there's clearly something about him that people like and believe in, but he really hasn't had that many opportunities. And when he has had opportunities, he hasn't really played very well. So, yeah, we'll see. I mean, Sean Payton can coach up some offense and coach up quarterbacks
Starting point is 01:13:24 and probably figure out a way to make it easy. Here's the thing. It's like these playoffs are being dominated by defense. The season in many ways was dominated by great defense. And you've got Seattle, you got the Rams, you've got Denver, and you got New England. You've got two exceptional defensive teams, Seattle and Denver. I'd throw New England in there with the way they're playing right now. And the Rams are really good as well.
Starting point is 01:13:52 So, you know, that's the problem is who they're facing. But on the flip side, Drake May's got, what is it, he's now got seven fumbles in two games. He's lost three of them. So if Denver can force turnovers, I think they got a shot. I think New England's good, though. I think New England's legit good. So would I. I agree with that.
Starting point is 01:14:17 But I think Denver's got a shot. So what else from the other games? What about the Rams Bears game? Well, everyone's still talking about the Caleb Williams touchdown. To tie the game, that was one for the ages. And that was one where if you're watching the game with people who don't watch football, they're shocked at how great a play it was. Because he's, I mean, I'm watching it with my wife,
Starting point is 01:14:48 and he's running backwards, and I'm screaming, no. I mean, it was a disaster happening, and he bailed out of it with his arm. Yeah, he's something else. You know, there are only a few guys on the planet that could make that throw. I mean, he is a sick athlete at that position. There's no doubt about it. You know, I said yesterday at the end of my conversation about that game, You know, there seems to be a lot of comparing Chicago to Washington from last year.
Starting point is 01:15:28 And like the expectation that Chicago won't have a good season next year because Washington didn't. And they had the same kind of season, a very good fortune season, you know, a Hail Mary there at the end. I mean, the whole end of the game against us were Jaden fumbles and they end up winning a game they shouldn't have won. And the good fortune they had all year. I said yesterday, and I believe this to be true now, no different, there's a big difference between Chicago and Washington. Chicago's got a much better roster. They have much better players around their quarterback than Washington did last year. You know, it's just, it's apples and oranges. There's, you know, DJ Moore and Roma Dunzee and Cole Comette and Colston Loveland and the two backs they have.
Starting point is 01:16:22 and Luther Burden as a rookie. I mean, they've got weapons everywhere. They've got an excellent offensive line. They've got some playmakers on defense. It's not a great defense, but they were second in the league and takeaways this year. It's different. And Caleb Williams is just like Jaden, super gifted.
Starting point is 01:16:43 And as long as he's healthy next year, which Jaden wasn't, I wouldn't write the bears off. They look to me like, they've got a lot of staying power. I mean, not if they lose half their team for the year. By the way, I agree with you. I agree with you. And they're well-coached, except this phenomenon.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Look, it's so funny, because I don't like field golf. But this insanity that's going on about not taking the three points, especially in a playoff game. I hear you. You know, it's just like, it's like a sickness. It's, it's just, they're just constantly doing it. I mean, now, you know, in the first half, you know, you can say that he shouldn't have, but ultimately, you know, they scored a touchdown on one fourth and goal,
Starting point is 01:17:44 and on the other one they got stopped. So instead of two field goals, they got a touchdown, so it's a point difference. but you know this dude this guy was going for fourth and five from his own 32 yard line in the first half against the backers last week they won the game then there's a difference between aggressive and reckless and i think there's been more recklessness in the in this season than you know aggressiveness but um but ironically he didn't go for two and the win he kicked for overtime well i i agree with that too. I think he made the right call. I think he made the right call too. All right. Anything else on the playoff games?
Starting point is 01:18:27 No. I'm looking forward to this weekend. Me too. We'll get to the storm and something that Georgetown coach Ed Cooley said over the weekend after the Hoyas lost to Yukon. That's next after these words from a few of our sponsors. This segment of the show brought you by My Bookie if you want to bet on the championship games this weekend. My recommendation is to do it at MyBooky. Go to MyBooky.com or mybooky.ag. And when you get there, use my promo code, DC Reload, to receive a 50% cash bonus. That means whatever you deposit as a new customer or a returning customer, MyBooky will take half that amount and give it to you in the form of a bonus. So if you deposit $300, they're going to
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Starting point is 01:20:09 So lost that, won the side and ended up being three and one on the weekend, 2 and O NFL 1 and 1 last night. You know, there are only three football games left in the season, though. The two championship games and the Super Bowl. That's it. Man, it flies by. So on this storm this weekend, at this point, most of you have, I'm sure, heard about it. I mean, this is going to be a massive news story at the end of the weekend over the weekend
Starting point is 01:20:43 because it's essentially a storm that's going to go from Texas to, potentially New England. And it's one of those, you know, setups where it's really cold and the cold air is coming all the way down, the northeast, Midwest, into the southeast, into the south in general, southwest, you know, deep into the heart of Texas. And let me just say before we get to our area, this is going to be a devastating ice storm for many places in the south, that as you and I both know, they're not able to handle snow, let alone ice. Tommy and I
Starting point is 01:21:23 at the Dallas Super Bowl, when the Packers were playing the Steelers, we've told the story many times. We woke up in our motel room. It was a motel on that Monday morning after flying in Sunday night and the weather was beautiful and walked out the door.
Starting point is 01:21:44 And yes, it was a door that exited to the outside. And there was an inch of ice everywhere. Yeah. Everywhere. Yes. It was 20 degrees and there was ice everywhere. And for the entire week, the roads were... Never got above freezing. Never got above freezing. It's only 30 degrees or under. And they never were able to clear all the ice. Um, somehow we made it to Radio Row every day. But this is going to be one of those Texas throughout the... southeast, east coast, up the east coast. And the issue right now for us is that, you know, I had Doug Cammer on the radio show, and it's really strange now the way forecasting is done.
Starting point is 01:22:29 They've got all of these computer models. Now they have a lot of AI models, and they don't all agree at the same time. And so they have to, they forecast by other things they're looking at. And those other things are all strong indicators for a very big storm and a potential massive snow and ice storm. Ice in the south, snow in the mid-Atlantic through the northeast. First of all, it's going to be frigid during this storm over the weekend. Temperatures in the teens during a lot of it. And it's not going to warm up afterwards. We're going to be cold for the next week or two.
Starting point is 01:23:10 so it's not like there's going to be, you know, significant melting. But the bottom line is when you have these storms that come from sort of southwest to northeast, it's the track of the storm. And in this case, it's how the cold air either keeps it south of us or keeps a lot of the heavy snow south of us. Or if it just relents a little bit to allow all of the precipitation and the heavy snow south of us, or if it just relents a little bit to allow all of the precipitation in the heaviest to come up to our area and beyond. Most of the models agree that this is a sizable snowstorm for DC starting late Saturday, maybe Saturday night, early Sunday morning, and going until Monday. And when I say sizable, like some of the models are hinting at, you know, a foot to two feet.
Starting point is 01:24:03 And because the temperatures will be so cold, the ratio of liquid to snow is. is much higher. Typically, when it's 32 degrees, one inch of precipitation or liquid, precipitation equals 10 inches of snow. This is going to be like a 15 to one ratio. So one inch would equal 15 inches of snow, basically. Wow. So it looks like there's a really good chance of something significant, but it could also be a storm that stays, the heaviest precipitation stays more to ourself and we get a few inches rather than, you know, a lot of inches. I asked Doug, is there any chance that we get zero? And no model is showing zero at this point, but it's only Tuesday and things could trend in that direction.
Starting point is 01:24:56 But this looks like the real deal and it's going to be super cold for this storm, which is not typical for us. Usually when we get snow, it's in the upper 20s to low 30s. This is going to be a snow where on Saturday, the high temperature may only be 14 or 15 degrees. And I'm talking about in D.C. And then on Saturday night, the temperatures in the upper single digits. That's really cold for us. Doug was saying we may have one of the coldest temperatures next week that we've ever had, that we could potentially be below zero at night.
Starting point is 01:25:37 We've been below zero in the suburbs many times, but haven't been below zero in the city in like 100 years. So we'll see. I'll tell you, man, this global warming's a bitch, isn't it? You know what? Not all of us will see. Huh? Not all of us will see.
Starting point is 01:25:57 No, you're not going to, you're going to be in 70-degree, beautiful weather, watching. watch it on the weather channel just to have a laugh or two? No, no. No, I have people I love up there. I don't want them to go through this. Well, you know, I want to go through it. Just like 25 degrees and snow would be fine with me.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Yeah, to be honest with you, I love the big storm, and then the idea of potentially measuring this storm sometime on Monday afternoon, Monday night in feet is really, thrilling. And then when it happens, and we've gotten these before, you know, we had them in 2010, we had two of them in 2010. We had the
Starting point is 01:26:42 2016 blizzard was 25 to 30 inches pretty much everywhere. Once it's over and then you got to deal with it, wow, it's a pain in the ass. It really is. So I'm not up for the aftermath.
Starting point is 01:27:00 I was stuck in my condo for a couple of in 2016 up in Frederick. Yeah. Did I have to come, did I come get you or not? No, I didn't do the show. All right. There was no way to come get me
Starting point is 01:27:15 because the parking lot was packed with snow and they hadn't gotten to it. Right. And it was a deep parking lot. There was like, I was deep into the condo place. You know, it wasn't like just off the street.
Starting point is 01:27:32 stuff. I'll tell you what, the idea of trying to get myself out now as I get a little bit older, like I love driving around in snowstorms. I love being like one of the only people out there driving around. You know that about me. Like I love these things. Yes. But the idea of, you know, if it's finally over, like on Monday,
Starting point is 01:27:57 if we've got a full-fledged raging foot to two-foot snowstorm, and I got a show to do on the Monday following the two championship games. It's just the idea of trying to shovel myself out to get to the main road is not going to be something that I look forward to. Can't you get the Sheehan Boys to shovel you out? The Shee and Boys are in L.A., Nashville, and New York. So the New York in Nashville, actually Nashville is supposed to get hit hard. by this storm.
Starting point is 01:28:35 All right, I wanted to finish with this. First of all, George Mason won again yesterday. They beat George Washington. George Mason is 18 and 1 on the season, 6 and 0 in the A10. Now, they got more votes this week. They're still not in the top 25, but they got 10 votes in the AP and they got some votes in the coaches poll. but this is the best start ever.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Tony Skin was the A-10 coach of the year last year, and he's got a team where, look, if they win the regular season, they'll get a bid no matter what happens, although last year they didn't. So I don't know. Just keep winning, Mason. Keep winning, Coach Skin.
Starting point is 01:29:24 They're doing a hell of a job. So Georgetown and Maryland this year are struggling. I mean, Mason's the best. of the locals in town. Georgetown's dead last in the Big East at 1 and 6 and 9 and 9 overall. The other day they played
Starting point is 01:29:42 Yukon, the number 3 team in the country at home. This was on Saturday, I believe, and they almost beat Yukon. They lost the game 64, 62, so great effort by Georgetown. And then after
Starting point is 01:29:58 the game, the head coach of Georgetown, Ed Cooley, who let me just say, I think Ed Cooley's a good coach. I thought he was a great coach of Providence. I've had him on the show a couple times. The Georgetown people make their coaches available more often than the Maryland people do. But I've had Ed on the show a couple of times, coach on the show a couple of times. He's a great guest.
Starting point is 01:30:22 He's interesting. But he said the following after they lost to Yukon. Quote, there's a lot worse happening right now than Georgetown. losing a basketball game. Around the world, around our city, around our community. I'm not trying to deflect anything, but my appreciation and gratitude to have an attempt to try and coach these young men to be better at what we do is an unbelievable honor. Yeah, we lost. We're this, we're that. But you know what we are? We're blessed. We're blessed to be nine and nine. We're blessed to be at one and six in the league. Closed,
Starting point is 01:31:02 quote. There's a coach, Kevin, who's holding his head up high. Like that coach in Jacksonville, who the Jacksonville reporter said to hold your head up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody has to do that to head goalie because his head is held up high. Right. Sorry, I missed the reference. Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:23 That's okay. Yeah, I mean, the only thing missing from that was the setup for it with somebody from the media saying, coach. You're one in six and nine and nine, but I know what you stand for, and I know what you're doing for these kids. You keep it up, young man. Duvall. DmV. Unfortunately, I don't know who's covering Georgetown basketball these days.
Starting point is 01:31:49 I don't either. But apparently somebody must be since the quote got out. Is it Gene? I don't know. I don't know anyone. I'm not sure they have reporters at some games. I think doesn't Gene basically cover Maryland and Georgetown? I could be wrong.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Look, I think Ed Cooley's a really good coach. And I think that what he said, I totally understand that there's a lot more to what he's doing his job with young men and feeling blessed to be around if he's got a close relationship with these kids. But you can't say when you're getting paid millions of dollars a year. And people in that program are giving you millions of dollars a year to give to the players to do what, Tommy, to win games. Not nine games against nine losses or one win against six losses in the Big East. Everybody's blessed to a certain degree. And there is craziness in our world. but you're paid to win games number one and win a lot more than you lose.
Starting point is 01:33:06 And that just sounds like a guy that's trying to make the case. It's defensive, trying to make the case that it's not all about my record. He's in a bottom line business, Tommy, even though it's college. It's a bottom line business. And he's not right now winning anywhere near enough at Georgetown. nowhere near enough. No, he's not. Nope.
Starting point is 01:33:31 That's how he got the job at Georgetown. It's a bottom line business. Yeah. This is year three at Georgetown already. It's already his third year. 9 and 23 in his first year, 2 and 18 in the conference. 18 and 16 last year, 8 and 12 in the conference. And he's 9 and 9 now and 1 in 6.
Starting point is 01:33:53 His overall record at Georgetown is 35 and 48, and he's 11 and 36 in the Big East. Uh-oh. That's not good. No, that's not good. By year three, you've got to have it turned around. And I'll be honest with you. I'm not following Georgetown very closely, but I have close friends.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Our very good friend, Chris Johnson, C.J. is very much a Georgetown guy, very much into the program. think they thought they had a chance to be decent this year. They beat Maryland in the opener. You know, CJ and his buddy Jay and a bunch of Georgetown guys were there. And, you know, I wasn't very happy to see him, but I said, hey, you know, congrats. Go have yourselves a season. And I think they thought they had some good players that had a chance to get them into that upper echelon of the Big East and maybe be a tournament team this year. And they are one in six. in the league. Now, I'm looking at some of their recent scores. They almost beat Yukon number three in the country. They almost beat Creighton. I know Creighton's decent. They played a competitive
Starting point is 01:35:07 game against Seton Hall. They're losing games in which they have a chance in. But, you know, got to win at a place like Georgetown. What's Ed Cooley making? He's probably making $5 million a year? That much? I'm going to guess that it's pretty close to that. Sorry, I was wrong. It's $6 million a year. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:35:35 He's not, he's blessed from that standpoint. It's guaranteed. You know, they can't give it back. It was, it looks like it was a $6 million per year deal. Yeah, with everything added in, it's $6 million. The base compensation, seven years, $35 million, but with all the other stuff, it's $6 million a year. Seven years. Look, I think at Georgetown, unlike in other places, you can probably buy that deal out at the end of the year if you want to.
Starting point is 01:36:16 But Ed Cooley is a good coach. His record at Providence, he had a 613 win percentage, overall a 546 win percentage. in the Big East, and he went to the tournament 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 times and made it to the Sweet 16 with my guy Jared Bynum at point guard, Georgetown Prep. All right, anything else? I got nothing else for you today, boss.
Starting point is 01:36:48 All right, we'll have an update on the snow for you when you join me on Thursday. All right, I'll see you. All right, that's it for the day. Back tomorrow.

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