The Kevin Sheehan Show - It's Time For March Madness!

Episode Date: March 16, 2022

Kevin's on vacation, so Tim Murray sits in for him, and he's joined by Jim Root to break down the entire bracket. Where are the best bets? Who are this year's Cinderellas going to be? Who eventually cuts down the nets? All that on today's show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Sheehan Show. Here's Kevin. Yes, indeed. It is the Kevin Sheehan show podcast or whatever Kevin's calling it. But it is not Mr. Sheehan. This might be the first time ever. He is not the main host since this podcast originated. I remember a couple years back when it all got going. And I told Kevin, he's going to love doing podcasts. And that's what he's going to do. And ultimately, that's, That's what he did. But he's taking a little time off. We're going to keep it rolling. I am Tim Murray, for those who don't know, once upon a time, a D.C. guy now living out here in Las Vegas. And are we going to get into Commander News today? We are not.

The NCAA tournament gets going on Thursday. It is my favorite two days of the sports calendar. I promise over the next handful of days, we will talk Commander news. which I still can't say properly. But let's get into the NCAA tournament. A good friend of mine and an absolute star when it comes to college basketball reporting and knowledge is Jim Rout. And he has joined me on my show countless times.

I have forced him to come in studio. You could follow him on Twitter at Second Chance Points. He's part of the three-man weave, which is just incredible, incredible stuff, at 3MW underscore CBB. And here's the kicker. I felt like we were going to have to race through this podcast because I did not pony up to get the, you know, pro zoom recording. But Jim, the guy that he is, let me use his. So now we could go for hours upon hours, which he doesn't know he's going to do.

Jim, what's up, brother? Oh, man, not much. We are so, so close. We're under 24 hours from games tipping off. Yeah, you know, for people that aren't familiar, the weave tends to ramble sometimes about college hoop. So we can't have the 40-minute limit on our podcast. We need to have the premium one that we can just go off into hours and hours and hours, like you said. Well, I'm excited for people in D.C. and all across the world who have not heard the velvet tones of Jim Root before or

have read his written work. But he is the man. I've learned a lot. I've learned a lot. from him. We've had a lot of good shows. Had a lot of fun and no pressure on Jim. At time of recording, we are recording this on Wednesday. He on my show, the nightcap on Vson, is nine for his last nine. Jim, no pressure at all, brother. You're just nine and no winning everyone money. Yeah, the expectations are going to be high for a new crowd. If I start cold, who boy, I think the haters will come knocking. All right. Well, this isn't an exclusive sports betting podcast. A lot of people listening are just filling out their brackets, you know, want to know know something about some of these teams. Should I pick them to be in an upset, you know,

you know, what's going to help me in my bracket pool? So, you know, we're going to have some fun with it. And look, I pride myself on knowing a lot about college basketball, but it's nothing compared to the knowledge that oozes from the veins of Jim Root. But just just say it. I'm a freak. You are. You're a bit of a freak, but we love it in that regard. We love the freaky nature that you are. Let's go big picture first. We're going to kind of bounce around. I want to do some, you know, upsets and we'll do a little history there because everyone loves the 12 over 5, but maybe it's the 13 over 4 this year, the 14 over 3 or hell, we had a 15 over two last year in Oral Roberts. So in the transfer portal, you know, you might not know where

particular players are at. But I like Kansas and it's scaring and we're allowed to curse on this podcast. I won't, you know, I won't go old school and just like throw F bombs out there. But it's scaring the shit out of me, Jim, that everybody loves Kansas. All right. So Kansas was a team that in November, I put in a future on a 14 to 1. I love the fact that they went to the transfer portal. They got Remy Martin in addition to the pieces that they brought back, right? David McCormick, you know, the kid from Kansas, Braun or Brown, however he properly pronounce his last name. And then Oce Abaji ends up winning player of the year in the big 12. So I like Kansas. I like their draw. And I'm going to ride with my future there 14 to 1.

So big picture. You're a big Arizona guy. Tell people why you've been on Arizona really early. You and I went to the Roman classic here in Vegas back in November. And we watched them just manhandle Michigan. And it was eye opening to me. But you've been on this Arizona team, but certainly some injury concerns. So where are you on Arizona heading into the dance? Yeah, you mentioned seeing them in Vegas, they just popped. Like you see them in person. You're just like, holy cow, this team is huge. Every position, they're massive. And I was planning to pick them to win at all. I picked them in December. I had revised predictions on our three-man we have podcast in the midseason. And I went with Arizona. But entering the tournament,

there's a little bit of concern about Kirk Cresa, their point guard, especially. Estonian very swaggerific. This man has confidence that oozes out of his ears. The dude was throwing his crocs into the crowd after they won the Pac-12 championship. Yep. I mean, he's going to do everything. He's going to shush the opposing team's crowd. He's going to like all kinds of hand signals, all kind of chirping against the opponent. And I think that swagger matters. It kind of fuels some of the the attitude of that Arizona team. And his ankle right now kind of looks like a great fruit. It's very, it's purple. he's posting like daily updates, pictures of it, which is wild.

He's trying to get back. I don't think he will play in this opening weekend. And I have some concerns about the Sweet 16 weekend too. So if he's not back by then, maybe they're a little bit more vulnerable. I'm kind of contradicting myself because I have them getting by that round. I have them getting to the title game and losing to Gonzaga. But his ankle is certainly a concern if you're in Illinois or Houston fan. and you want to get them out of your bracket,

I have a feeling he won't play that weekend. So a potential upset there in the south, if you're not as high as I am on Arizona. Skilled, they beat UCLA in the Pactual title game without him. They've shown plenty of upside. But his shot making and his attitude, I think generally matters quite a bit for those wildcats. Well, let's get to Gonzaga.

I mean, I love, I've always loved Gonzaga. Maybe not always, but for the past handful of years. I think the doubters are just morons to an extent. I mean, this team has made the sweet 16, what, six consecutive tournaments. They don't lose early on. But last year in the national championship, there was, you know, Drew Timmy still probably has nightmares about how he was just abused by the Baylor Biggs. So they lose a lottery pick and Jalen sucks.

Corey Kispert now. Shout out to the Wizards on the Wizards. Joel Aiye, he is gone. But I think I asked Seth Greenberg name drop on the show on a show on Vson a couple weeks ago. Hey, what makes Gonzaga? What's different this year about Gonzaga? Why can they win the championship? And he said, because Baylor doesn't exist from last year.

I was like, all right, I guess that makes sense. So give me the elevator pitch on Gonzaga and walk us through that region because I think there are actually, I felt like Jim, the bracket makers did them no favors. I think if Memphis gets past Boise State, they could be with their athleticism. They could be an issue. I think Arkansas with their talent level and just kind of their havoc could be a tricky spot. And then they've played Texas Tech before.

They beat Texas Tech. But I believe, Jim, Texas Tech held Gonzaga to their lowest point total of this season, you know, way back in December. So, you know, walk us through the West region and Gonzaga and, you know, some tricky spots that they could run into. Yeah. Yeah, so Gonzaga, again, number one overall seed, same as last year, viewed as the top team, but they're not undefeated like they were last year. They don't maybe have that weight on their shoulders.

And another key difference, along with Baylor not existing, which is a very relevant note for Mr. Greenberg, they can win in different ways this year. They were an offensive juggernaut last year whose defense was good, but not elite. And this year, they have a security blanket at the rim. Chet Holmgren, Monster Shotblocker, one of the best room protectors in the entire sport. Potential lottery pick, probably top three pick, honestly, and getting a lot of love there. I'm sure people have heard of him. He's a unique looking player. He's kind of the anti-Zion in his figure and his stature, but he's a game changer for them,

adds the defensive element to go along with their already deadly offense. But yeah, the region is difficult. And like you talked about Kansas, they're getting a lot of love because of their region. and I find Kansas region much weaker than this west for Gonzaga. You talked about Memphis being a potential upset team, Yukon, Arkansas, a tough four, five. And then they've already lost Alabama, who's in the region. They've already lost to Duke who's in that region.

So it is no favors for the Bulldogs here. Like I said, I have them coming out, but it is no easy walk in the park to get there. there's some decent upset potential with a team like Vermont. I think Alabama is a high variance team. So if you're looking at Rutgers and Notre Dame, the winner of that game Wednesday night, I think's got a decent chance.

But yeah, I mean, just straight down the line, two, three, four, five, six, and then down to the nine seed with Memphis, there are teams with high ceilings that can challenge Gonzaga in this region. Well, this is a, you know, D.C.-based podcast, and there's no Maryland. There's no Georgetown.

there's no Virginia. Virginia Tex in it. We'll get to them in a little bit, but let's put some smiles on people's faces. Duke is the two seed in this region. I'm very angry at Duke. I had a big play on them to win the ACC tournament. The entire bracket broke perfectly how I had expected because the ACC sucks. But defending three-pointers seems to be an issue. You know, you set a screen, you step back and, oh, we're just going to let a Wofford transfer. for bang threes in our, you know, top three picks eyehole to steal a line from SVP. So let's take a look at Duke and let's make people happy. When does Duke lose? I think they could lose to Davidson because of the susceptibility to the three, at least with what we saw in the ACC tournament. Michigan State certainly could bang with them. And then if they get a showdown with Texas Tech, that team, in my opinion, Jim,

is nowhere near tough enough to battle with that Texas. tech team who is just a bunch of MFers. Yeah, Duke, they showed the high ceiling throughout the year. I mean, the win over Kentucky early, the win over Gonzaga early, and then kind of up and down an ACC play. And for a while it seemed like, all right, when they're motivated, when it's a big spot for them, they'll get up and they'll play their best. But that was that theory that I was supportive of kind of got exposed down the stretch,

taken on UNC at home, the ultimate get hype spot. They lost in Coach K's final home game. Then the ACC tournament, as you said, just got out executed by Virginia Tech. So I think there's a lot more vulnerability to this team than I initially had expected. Defensively, they should be amazing. Considering the athletic talent, the pro talent that they have on this roster, the size, the strength, they should be incredible on that end. And they're just not.

They're really flawed. They lose focus. They lose shooters, like you said. They lose cutters constantly. So a team like Davidson with their own. offensive execution. And then, yeah, Texas Tech, if they can score enough against Duke's flawed defense, the Red Raiders have the best paint defense in the country.

And no one scores in the paint against them. So if you force Duke to hit a whole bunch of jump shots, you could get a bricky knight from Paulo and Trevor Keels. And that's how you beat that team. So, yeah, I think Duke has a tough draw. And I'm souring on them quite a bit. I think they are a fade and a team I'm picking to lose early. I actually have them losing to Davidson, so I haven't gone out real early.

Yeah, I do too. I just, you know, the, and the Davidson game against Richmond in the A10 championship, they got bullied down low. I don't know how they lost that game being up, you know, what, five in the final 80 seconds, and they didn't turn the ball over, and yet they lose. But they got bullied a little bit. So that makes me worry, but I think the execution, like you said, I mean, this Duke team feels like the Duke teams that bowed out early, whether it was to, you know, Mercer or Lehigh, or I'm trying

to remember like a 7-10 situation that they got bounced in recent memory. But this just feels to me, I mean, hell, it feels a little bit like, you know, remember when Zion, RJ Barrett and Cam Reddish were on that squad? They should have lost a VCU, or excuse me, UCF in that second round. they got very lucky against Virginia Tech in Washington, D.C. I was sitting courtside for that one. You know, they throw a lob pass. It goes through the fingertips of a Virginia Tech player.

And then ultimately they lost the Michigan State and the elite eight. It feels like, you know, and you're looking over on the sideline and who am I to criticize a dude who's won five titles and is arguably the greatest coach of the modern era in Coach K. But I don't know, man. It just, it feels like they've got six dudes. A couple guys from the D.C. area, Trevor Keels. and Jeremy Roach. So a shout out to them, Paul the 6th. But yeah, I just, this team seems very vulnerable and it feels like the what they have been in recent years, which was get some of those big premier wins, Kentucky, Gonzaga, and then kind of fade down. As other teams have gotten

better, it feels like Duke has maybe stayed the same. Yeah, which is weird, because they're young. They have every right to get better. Like when you're bringing in a bunch of freshmen, you should mesh, you should figure out your pecking order down the stretch. It's not what they do. I think to be really blunt and brutal about it, it feels like from an X and O perspective, Coach K retired like five years ago. It just has not been the same as when he was cultivating teams and developing over the course of three or four years. The one and done, it's tougher to implement the same discipline and style. I think Villanova embodies it more than Duke does now with culture and how everybody just improves year over years.

year. And that's that that's changed Duke's floor and ceiling that they're capable of losing to mid-major teams now because every so often they'll lay a stinker. I think they, they blow away Follerton in the first round. But yeah, from then on, it gets dicey for the Blue Devils. All right. Let's, let's jump to the East region and just kind of power through this one. You know, what will get to some of our favorite plays of the first round and, you know, break down some of the mid-majors. But I wanted to kind of do a just a, a droid look a little bit at the bracket as people are filling it out. Who do you have coming out of the east?

And is Baylor, in your opinion, the most vulnerable one seed in the field? I have Kentucky coming out of the region. And I think that's probably the more popular choice. I believe per betting odds there, the favorite to win the region. And so I get that. I think the ceiling is really high with the wildcats. So you look at the game they played at Kansas was one of the best performances of the season by any team.

And the draw, well, it's not mega friendly. I think that 7-10 matchup with Murray State or San Francisco is tough. I'm not high on Purdue at all because of their lack of defensive ability. And so then getting through there to the elite eight, okay, I like the draw for Kentucky. But on the top half, yeah, you mentioned Baylor. I think there is some level vulnerability to them. I think maybe it's been overplayed by, some of the talking heads or what have you,

just because they're missing two pieces, LJ Cryer and Jonathan Chomwa Chachua, both out with injuries. But this version, this seven-man version that they have right now, has won some huge games. They beat Kansas, they beat,

I think they beat Texas Tech on the road. Like this seven-man team is every bit of a one-seed. It's not like they won all those games and then lost the guys. Like this version is good. I do have them going out in the Sweet 16, but it's it's not like a shade at Baylor. I just, I love St. Mary's. I can't help.

I'm a Gales, man. All right, let's stop it right there. So you've got St. Mary's over UCLA. I think a lot of people filling out their brackets will say, I need, I need a one to go out. And look, normally we can't have, you can't have chalk. I remember my junior year of college, we had one dude in our, you know, our house. And he, you know, doesn't watch any college basketball. picks all four one seeds. We're like, you idiot, don't you know that all four one seeds have never

made the tournament on that final four. And of course, that year, all four one seeds do make the final four. But normally, you're going to get some upsets. You're going to get a one seed, maybe losing the opening weekend. We saw it last year with Illinois losing the Loyola. But give us, yeah, St. Mary's. All right. So St. Mary's, you got them beating UCLA, beating Indiana, obviously, in the first round. I would, what about St. Mary's intrigues you, that you, that you have them going all the way to the elite eight. Yeah, I mentioned Villanova's culture and discipline. St. Mary's is very much the same way.

Like all these guys have been in the program for multiple years. Their coach is a wizard. Randy Bennett. I mean, they beat Gonzaga by 10 or 15 points, controlled an entire game against the number one team in the country. So the ceiling is high with them. Their point guard, Tommy Cousies, in his sixth year at St. Mary's.

He has plenty of experience. He kind of looks like a mid-major Steve Nash, these days with how he keeps his dribble alive on pick and rolls. So they never beat themselves. They're so disciplined defensively. They're well coached. I just think beating them is going to take a really talented team also playing a great game. And while UCLA or Baylor could get there, I just, I like this Gail's team.

I've seen them in person too many times and kind of fall in love with them. So I believe they can make that run. And maybe the offensive firepower is not there. but I trust the defense and I think they make enough shots to advance to the elite eight. All right. So you got Gonzaga, you got Kentucky. St. Mary's a bit of surprise there in the elite eight. The only region we haven't hit on, I mentioned Kansas. I have Kansas coming out of the Midwest.

I've got way too much money invested in Kansas. I bet them to win the Midwest region at plus 210. I've had them to win the national championship at 14 to 1. I even put a flyer on Kentucky and Kansas to meet in the national. championship at 30 to one gym. So what could possibly go wrong? Walk me through the Midwest. I was having a discussion with a buddy of mine who's a listener of this podcast. Shout out Kennedy. And, you know, he's saying, I don't trust Kansas. I'm like, okay, you know, he's a Hall of Fame coach and has a national championship, but you're going to trust Iowa and Fran McCaffrey, who's never made it out of the

first weekends. But I mean, look, I bet on Iowa to win the Big Ten. They're hotter than ever. They've got a, you know, a legit stud and Keegan Murray, great last name. And so, you know, walk us through the Midwest region, in your opinion, who comes out of there and is Kansas vulnerable to the San Diego State? Creton winner, the Iowa situation, you know, how do you see the Midwest region? When I first saw it, I wanted to pick nobody. That was my choice. I was like, do I have to pick a final four team from this region? There's five teams in the south. I would take over Kansas, over Auburn. But unfortunately, that's not how the bracket works.

So I have to come up with somebody. Yeah, Kansas is a team that I was low on down the stretch. I also have a preseason feature on them, so I'd love it if they made the run. But the couple of games against TCU, I wasn't very impressed with the home game against Texas to clinch a tie with the Big 12 title. They went to overtime.

That was dicey. So despite the run in the Big 12 tournament, I wasn't immediately enthused to back them. I do have them going out to Iowa. and the Sweet 16 and the Hawkeyes. The Hawkeyes are an interesting one because, yeah, the narrative around Fran, Fran McCaffrey, their coach, that he's never made a Sweet 16, never made a second weekend. Those narratives matter until they don't.

Like for a while, there was the Tony Bennett can't win in the tournament with his style. Jay Wright. Jay Wright as well, very much so. I rebelled against those narratives. So I feel bad or hypocritical citing that one with Fran because I also. think this team is different. It's built differently. They have a lot more positional versatility. The Murray's are

the twins are kind of unlike any players she's ever really had there. So I like that aspect of them. I like they have a pretty strong bench. Tony Perkins has emerged off the bench for them. So I trust this Iowa version more perhaps to my own demise.

But I'm with Iowa there and then I just begrudgingly shrugged and have Auburn winning the region because I think the bottom half of the Midwest is bleak. It is bleak. I'm not real high on any of those teams. I mean, LSU fired its coach.

Iowa State has scored, what, 40 or less in like three of the last four games. Wisconsin is the luckiest team in the country, and their best player may not be 100% healthy. Colgate will get to them later. I'm in love, but maybe two in love. So I'm sure they'll lose by 70. USC's a fraud, in my opinion. and Miami incredibly well coached.

But, you know, they gave Duke a test, but how good is Duke? I could see Miami beating Auburn, maybe. Is that crazy? Miami to beat Auburn? I don't think so. I think either USC or Miami could. But the thing with USC is they're like kind of a worst version of Auburn, like all about their paint, have dicey guards. Miami, though, has like the rock paper scissors edge where they're all back court.

My concern with them is they're guards that like to play downhill and drive. And then you have to go into Walker Kessler's waiting Redwood Forest of arms at the rim, which is a little bit of a problem for the hurricanes. So, you know, there was a point in the year, Tim, where, you know, everybody was high on Auburn. We were kind of in love with them. I was. Same. Same.

Absolutely. Unfortunately, the guards, the erratic guard play has come up and been an issue. They are willing to take any shot you will give them. as defense and if you're giving them 30 footers, they're going to take them. And very, very frequently, those do not go in. So they're sometimes a tough team to trust that entire bottom of the bracket. Like if you told me any of those eight teams are in the elite eight, including Jacksonville State, I would not skewer you for being outrageous. All right. Let's take a quick break with Jim Root here. We're filling in for Sheehan. He is out playing golf somewhere in,

in California right now. But before we hit the break, Jim, your final four is Gonzaga out of the west, Kentucky out of the east, Arizona out of the south, and Iowa or Auburn out of the Midwest? I went with Auburn and I feel exactly not good at all about it. So there you go. I tried to be different. I'm going Texas Tech out of the west. I couldn't have too much chalk.

Kentucky out of the east, Arizona out of the south. Kansas out of the Midwest. As my dog starts to bark, let's take a break here on on the podcast. All right, back on the podcast, we've done the overview. Now, let's, I want people to sound smart when they're talking to their friends with the bracket and to know some names. And there's no one who could point these names out better than Jim, once again, at second chance points on Twitter. So there's a couple guys that I'm already in love with. And, you know, I just, I think back of some of the most infamous names, right? God, Sham God, back in, what was that, 97 or 98 for Providence. Obviously, Kemble Walker, Shabazz Napier, they play for Yukon. But you look at Thomas Walkup,

my ginger brother from Stephen F. Austin a couple years ago, R.J. Hunter with his big shots. So names to know, I love Jelly Walker. Great nickname. Jordan Walker. He is, you know, averaging. He averaged over 30 points a game in the CUSA tournament. He plays for UAB. And I have become, Jim, obsessed with teams and players who can shoot the three and feeling like that's the teams I want to pick to make upsets here. And Jelly Walker has hit, I think, 115 three-pointers this year. So that is the guy I have already got a man crush on.

Hopefully he doesn't crush me in that regard. you know, who are some names in the mid-major world, maybe some, you know, down transfers or just just microwave type of players that, you know, come Saturday morning. Did you see what this guy did on Friday night? So who are some of those names, Jim, that people should know? And maybe is we'll get into the upset opportunities here in just a moment. Maybe that'll lead them to, to that upset. Yeah, I mean, Jelly Walker's the first one worth mentioning. there is no shyness to his game at all. As soon as he's across half court, he is willing to bomb away.

And he can make it. His range extends to basically as soon as he steps on the wood floor. He can knock it down. So he's a great one to mention. Baylor Shireman is a 6-6 kind of point guard wing for South Dakota State, big-time playmaker, but also a great shooter. He beat Washington State this year on a buzzer-beating step-back rainbow three. It's kind of an iconic shot for South Dakota State fans.

He is definitely capable of doing something late against that Providence. Friars team to make people remember him. I mentioned Tommy Coosie for St. Mary's. I think he's a guy that people are going to really enjoy watching. He's just so crafty with the ball. He's got the shaved head. He's a 24, 25-year-old, 60-year-old, senior. He's a fun story.

Yeah, I mean, pretty much all of these mid-major teams, Tim, You mentioned you like shooting. There are, I think, six or seven double-digit seeds that are in the top 20 nationally in three-point percentage. They can all hit shots. The other one I'll plug here, despite having Auburn in the final four, Jacksonville State, I think, is a very fun team. I will be betting them first to 15 points. I think they're going to get out to a nice start against Auburn. They've got a couple really great shooters.

Darien Adams is their leading score, highest usage. guy can not get down from deep. So I'm curious if maybe he gets on radars a little bit, that bottom right 15 seed, that's where we saw Max Aismus emerge from last season. So perhaps we get another one of those. Bouncing around the rest of the bracket, maybe one or two more names at Chattanooga, David Gene Baptiste. We call him Gene the Baptist here at Three Man Weave.

He's the one. The Savior. He hit the buzzer beater, got us our Socon Future. Yep, hit the game winner for Chattanooga. I think Illinois is a tough matchup for them, which is a bummer. But Chattanooga's both their guards, Malachi Smith and Gene Baptiste, are big time shotmakers. And I think if they are able to knock off Illinois, I think the mocks and those guards are going to get a lot of love publicly. So I think that's another team to watch.

All right. Let's dive into because you know how it is with people filling out their brackets. They immediately gravitate towards the five. 12 and now the 413 and even the 143. And hell, last year, as you mentioned, Max Asimus, elite score from Oral Roberts, they beat Ohio State. So let's look at some of these potential upset spots. Historically, I did a little homework for the podcast.

So historically, Jim, the 12 over 5 has been the most potent. since 2001, we have only had three NCAA tournaments where a 12 did not beat a five. We had three 12s win in 2019, three 12s win in 2014, three 12s win in 2013. Oregon State was the only 12 last year that won, and hell, they made a heck of a run all the way to the suite 16. So I'm sorry, elite eight, excuse me. Yeah, they beat Loyola, right? in the in the sweet 16.

So all right, let's go just in order of these 512 matchups. Yukon, New Mexico State. This is a point spread of around six and a half or seven. New Mexico State is a team that people have seen often. And I know you're not a big believer in this matchup for the Aggies to beat Yukon. Yeah, unfortunately. And New Mexico State has been in the tournament a bunch. They never won a game, but they are extremely well coached.

Chris Jams knows what he's doing on both ends of the floor. Just their big edge in their conference was physicality and owning the paint and having one lethal wing score in Teddy Allen. And that's all a problem against Yukon. The Yukon's bigger. They're more physical. And they have multiple strong wings they can throw at Allen. So I'm not sure New Mexico State gets there.

Maybe on the point spread, sure. but I'm probably going to end up being kind of sticking the month on some of these 5-12s. You like the fives, man. You're a big believer in a lot of these fives. Yep. I like the fives, but then the 13s are where I'm hunting some of the upsets. But yeah, I do think Yukon just as a tough matchup for New Mexico State there. All right.

We'll roll through these. You've already given your thoughts on St. Mary's. You're a big believer in the Gales, have them in the elite eight. Does Indiana advancing over Wyoming make it trickier for? us St. Mary's. I'll be honest, fully transparent. I immediately bet St. Mary's last night. Indiana's got to travel to Portland, Oregon for a Thursday game after winning in Dayton. You know, Jackson Davis is playing out of his mind right now. But I just like Randy Bennett with extra time to prepare. I think that's an unfair advantage to this team. So I will go,

I will go St. Mary's as well, but let's run through that. St. Mary's, Indiana. Yeah, I mean, they're kind of mirror images of each other. They're both very prone to playing through the post. They have a lot of size, a lot of just like tenacity defensively. Both these teams scrap. We saw what Indiana did to Wyoming forcing so many turnovers on Tuesday night. I just think St. Mary's is the better version of that. They're less prone to mistakes than Indiana's guards.

You mentioned the prep time advantage. Indiana arrived at like 7 a.m. Pacific today. basically took a red eye out west. I think that's going to mess with their sleep schedule, their practice schedule. Like you said, the prep time issue is a concern. So I believe St. Mary's will just have too good of a game plan and they're too smart and experience to drop that one. All right.

Houston, UAB, you and I differ a little bit here. I like UAB. I think Houston, now they proved me wrong in the AAC. I didn't bet against them. But, you know, we've been saying the same thing. and we've kind of been wrong. You know, eventually Marcus Sasser and Tremon Mark being out. It's going to hurt them.

Marcus Sasser, for those don't know, preseason, you know, first team all AAC, big time score, leading score before he went down to injury. And he's been out for, you know, pretty much the whole second half of the season. UAB, I just feel like with a guy like Jelly Walker, they could go nuts. The Ken Palms of the world love UAB. if they weren't playing Houston, you know, they might be, you know, a favorite in this spot. They're 46 and Ken Palm. They're three ranks ahead of Providence, who will get to a little bit later there.

But, man, the Nett, Park Torvik, Ken Palm, all those places. They love Houston. I took eight and a half with UAB. Am I crazy? Oh, you're not crazy. I may gravitate towards Houston there a little bit, but not crazy at all. This is like one of the best four teams. Houston's played all season because the American is such a weak conference this year.

But this was a little like Yukon, New Mexico State to me where, I guess I said this about St. Mary's, Indiana, where a lot of these 512s feel like it's a rock versus a rock. This isn't a rock versus paper or scissors versus paper. These two teams are so similar in identity. They want to force turnovers, get after you defensively, get after the offensive glass. and I just feel like Houston's a superior version of that. They challenge threes. Every single season, their defensive three point percentage is below 30,

which usually that's a tough stat to control, but the way they challenge, the way they bother people on the perimeter, I think that's a concern for the Blazers. And one little matchup nugget is that Jelly Walker, the guy we talked about gave a lot of love to for UAB. He was in the American, he was at Tulane, playing against Calvin Samson and Houston last year.

So he probably has a little bit of a scouting reports and familiarity with him. So I do think Houston advances, but that spread is difficult. Eight and a half is a high number for Houston to cover. Let's go Blazers. All right. So final 512, you have not, you don't see much upset potential. Richmond, Red Hot. This is an interesting pairing because neither team gets a rest advantage.

Both teams played four games in four days. I kind of like what the committee did to pair these two against each other. and Richmond. Richmond needed to win in order to get in. Is this a situation? I don't know if you've done that kind of the historical look, but is this a situation where, you know, maybe Richmond is running out of gas, winning those four games in four days, essentially saving their coach's job. His wife is, you know, weeping in the stands. You know, they've got some dudes. I like this Richmond team. I was a little bit disappointed the past couple of years in their performances, but, you know, here they are.

They are a team that loves to get steals with Gildyard, but it feels like Iowa is just playing the best that they've ever played. So this does feel like a tricky spot for Richmond. Yeah, I'll give two perspectives here. On the Iowa side, yeah, they've been incredible. They're rolling Richmond. I feel like there could be an element of we're happy we made it here for Richmond. Even if they'll never say that,

I just am concerned that maybe there's, be a little complacency in their mind. But then on the other side, everybody's talking about 5-12 upsets and trying to hunt them. I do not hear people talk about this one. And I know it's the biggest spread. But Iowa is just rolling so much that I think there's an assumption that they'll move on. And hey, I have them in the elite eight. I'm making that assumption.

But Richmond can be feisty. They're mega experienced. Like most of these guys have played together for four or even five seasons. So that familiarity, I think they're Princeton-type. offense can get to Iowa's defense. So I think that one can be closer than people think it'll be really high scoring. I would imagine neither offense is going to be stopped.

But yeah, ultimately, I do think the Hawkeyes are playing well enough to move on. Well, the host of this podcast is the originator of the stinky line that you've heard me talk about way too much. I'm flattered to be on that in the presence there. He's the godfather of it, as I have a, adopted that. He's taught me the ropes. South Dakota State Providence. I was doing the bracket reveal show on Vson on Sunday. And I tweeted out, Jim, when this pairing was announced, South Dakota State Against Providence, I go, Providence is going to be two. They open two and a

half. They're now two. That's wild. I mean, that is absolutely crazy to think that. Now the worry is is this too stinky? Is this a situation where the public is too on South Dakota State? I'm starting to get those vibes a little bit. I don't know what the hell I'm going to do with this game. But South Dakota State is awesome. As you mentioned, they run through the Summit League. They can shoot the living daylights out of the ball in Providence.

I'm a big Ed Cooley fan. They're a veteran team. They're a pain in the ass. But is this a spot where the magical carpet ride ends for the Friday? I kind of think so. And to be fair, it is more about South Dakota State being great to me than it is like Providence being a flawed team or lucky or anything. I just think the Jack Rabbits are that good offensively. They play inside out, but when they go out, like you mentioned, they're 45% from deep.

A buddy in mine, Lucas Harkins just wrote an article for Heat Check College Basketball. And he said, Providence is two and four when their opponents shoot 39% or better from three. and South Dakota State's done that in 10 straight games. Like they're an unconscious shooting team. I think Providence will struggle to deal with that. I know there's an element of thinking everybody's on the Jackrabbits. Maybe you want to go with Providence against that. But per ESPN's bracket challenge numbers,

70% of people are picking Providence. So it's not like everybody's rolling with the underdog there. So I feel okay, rolling with the Jackrabbits, taking the double-digit seed. can really score there. And unfortunately, Ed Cooley has worked his team into a lather, I think, about the fact that there, no one is believing them. I saw press comments right before we hopped on the pod where he was saying that.

But I don't believe in them. So sadly, I'm going with the jackrabbits. All right, there you go. There's a 13 number four. 31 and 13, 13 all time, four versus 13s or 13 versus four. But to last year, Ohio over Virginia, North Texas over Purdue, one in 2019 and two in 2018. So the last three tournaments we've gotten,

we have seen five number 13 seeds win. And people might remember this, Hawaii beat Cal in 2016. Mark Turgeon's only run to the Sweet 16 as the head coach of Maryland. Well, let's get another local tie in there. We got Vermont and Arkansas. What's not to love about Vermont, John Becker, former Gallaudetet head coach.

Then he was an assistant under Mike Lonergan at Catholic U. and I think he worked with my buddy Steve Howes as well. Then he goes up to Vermont. He's on Lonergan's staff. Lonergan goes to GW and he takes over and he has been absolutely sensational. And my guess would be that John Becker will be a head coach at Rhode Island or UMass or somewhere else come next year. and maybe this could be the Tom Brennan walk off into the sunset.

That game, I remember 2005, 13 over 4, once again. You got Vermont beating Syracuse, Sorentine from the parking lot, the iconic call from Gus Johnson. So I'm getting all those vibes, but then I look at Arkansas and I'm like, damn it, they play in a super athletic team from the SEC that can run you off the floor. The point spread is telling you that Vermont is absolutely. absolutely going to be live. Only a five-point underdog here.

Catamounts get it done against Arkansas? Oh, man. I picked Vermont here. So I guess I'm definitely giving them a puncher's chance. The concern, though, yeah, the athletic edge, the way Arkansas can wear teams down. They did it to Colgate last year. Last year, they got down 14 to Colgate, but they ended up winning by 17. They had 30-point swing within that game.

That tells you what Razorbacks are capable of doing. have a lot of spurtability to them with their pressure and the fact that they can knock down shots. So I do like Vermont because of the offensive prowess that they have. But this is the best team they've played since December 7th. If that matters to you, you know, three months of not really playing solid competition. But all that said, Becker's a great coach. They have offensive talent. They have some down transfers, which they didn't in the past. I'm buying Vermont. I'm buying into the cat amounts there. Yeah. And they're a team. you know that that's been together a while they've had a ton of success um Eric

Musselman's already bitching and complaining about you know having to go to Buffalo even though it's like it's as if Jim Buffalo is you know a neighboring town to Burlington, Vermont it's like seven hours away man like relax yeah I think we need to get him a map yeah it's uh this it's Columbus Georgia not Columbus Ohio uh all right Other 314s, not as sexy. You've already talked to Illinois, Chattanooga a little bit. Maybe not a great situation.

And Akron, UCLA, take us through the Zips. This is the biggest spread of the 13 versus 4 has actually come down a little bit. 13 and a half, I think is where I saw it last. So some backing maybe for the Mac champions in Akron. Akron have a chance to stun the reigning Final 4 participant in UCLA. Yeah, I think they have a chance as they can make it as ugly as possible. Make this a low-scoring half-court game. That's kind of an Akron's MO all season,

that their conference is an up-and-down offense-heavy league. And Akron is like the one stick-in-the-mud exception that wants to play half-court. They want to grind things out, win with defense, and win in the paint. And obviously, that worked for them in the postseason. They were able to take care of business, run all the way to the Mac title. And, yeah, the spread is rather large. I think that's a lot of respect for UCLA. They have terrific bad shot making to describe that.

Like they take shots that you would question hands in the face, but they have incredible shot makers on those particular jumpers. So I think if they're a little bit cold, then Akron does control the tempo and keep it in the half court, then there's a chance they could compete. Got UCLA moving on. But that this is the one 413, like you said, has not really been discussed frequently.

as a potential upset. So maybe that's the one that's off the radar that surprises everyone. All right, Jim. Let's power through these last three because, you know, we've only seen 116 whenever. UMBC, Ryan Odom, now at Utah State.

You know, he, I think that was, was that four years ago today? I think, something like that? Yeah, yeah. Sounds about right. So we got some three verse 14s, two verse 15s, three verse 14s, 22 and 122. We saw Abilene Christian do it last year. No one from 17 to 19, Stephen F. Austin with Thomas Walkup. They beat West Virginia handily and then really should have beaten Notre Dame. They know, Notre Dame, if I remember it correct, got a tip in at the buzzer. 2015, we had Georgia State over Baylor, UAB over Iowa State that year. 2014 was the wonderful Mercer over Duke situation. 2013.

Harvard over New Mexico. So we've seen it a handful of times. Three verse 14s, where are your eyes gravitating? Who's alive in this situation? Yeah, Colgate's my favorite one for three verse 14. Elsewhere, though, I think Purdue just hammers Yale. The size advantage of Purdue and Yale's just general athletic deficiencies coming out of the Ivy is going to catch up to them there.

And then Longwood and Montana State, I like against the spread. I think they can hang around and stay within a rather large number for both, mainly because both can shoot and both are at least feisty in the paint. They're not going to get demolished inside the way that I think Yale will. But I don't think either of those has a great shot to actually pull off the upset. So really the only 14 seat I see as live would be Colgate taken on Wisconsin. I'm not worried about it being in Milwaukee. I think the Raiders and their lethal offense can give Wisconsin a lot of troubles,

a team that's played close game after close game this season. You don't want to let Colgate hang around because they'll hit a couple of big shots late and then suddenly it's over. So I'm all in a Colgate, so they'll probably lose by 40. Here's why. Third longest winning streak in the country, 15 straight games, ran through the Patriot League. Really no close games in that conference tournament. They proved that they were the best.

second in the country in three point percentage, 40% as I mentioned. I love backing teams that can shoot. If they're cold, well, we're screwed. But if they're hot, never know. That's why it's an upset. And we're having fun if they're hot. That's what we want. Fifth in the country and assists.

They start three seniors and two juniors. So this is a team that's been together forever. You know, I think Matt Langel, another coach, probably his days are short at Colgate. He's been there forever. And look, I mean, I know Syracuse isn't. an NCAA tournament team, but they went to the carrier drum and dropped a hundred on the on the orange earlier this year. So they've beaten, you know, good teams before. They went to the tournament last year, as we talked about against Arkansas. So, and if Johnny Davis isn't healthy,

it's a, it's a whole new world there. So we've seen the number come up a little bit to eight. So maybe he will be healthy. But yeah, I think Colgate not only covers, I think they have a chance to win this game outright. Yep. I'm in lockstep with you on that one. I just think Wisconsin not being able to lay over them athletically the same way that Arkansas did last year. I mentioned that 30 point swing in that game. Wisconsin, I don't think has that kind of juice to wear them down with pressure and in size and athleticism. Colgate does have two 610 centers that are very competitive inside. They kind of play a little platoon up front and then have four shooters around them.

So they can compete a little bit inside, maybe more than they're getting credit for. And then the shooting. The shooting is the big story for the Raiders. there 15 seeds nine wins all time one last year oral roberts beat ohio state then made the run middle tennessee hammered michigan state remember where they were bitching about not getting a one seed and then the blue raiders beat them by double figures florida gulf coast uh that one rings in my brain quite well and sure a lot of listeners uh was my bachelor party uh in uh in dewe beach and or watching all these games my best friend is uh he leaves to go to go to the starboard to watch

his beloved Hoyas get their ass kicked by Florida Gulf Coast. He walked back in a drunken stupor. You know who I'm talking about, Rory. And then Lehigh and Norfolk State. I know Norfolk State hurts you with Missouri. But the good thing was Duke lost that night. So, you know, the shine on your alma mater, Missouri didn't really come true. Of the 15s out there, who is the liveliest or the, they're just the best, I guess, if you want to say that.

The best team is probably Jacksonville State. and the liveliest, I would say. And it's funny, they're the only team that didn't actually win a conference tournament to be in the field. Yes. They lost in the semis of Jacksonville, but made it because of a rules technicality where the champion, Bellarmine is not eligible for the NCAA tournament. But Jacksonville State has some size. They have a UNC transfer, 610, 260 pounder that anchors the paint.

And then as I mentioned, a ton of shooters around him, they will pack the paint defensively, play a little zone. and Tim, we know Auburn just loves to fire up bad threes. They fall in love with it. And if they're off, if they're cold, that creates a very high variance game here where Jacksonville State could potentially be feisty. So I like them to cover. Maybe I'll put a little bit of sprinkling on the money line, be spicy. And as I mentioned, I'm going to be all over that first to 15 points in that game.

All right. Let's take one more final break here with Jim Root. And we will give out our favorite play. is sure to go wrong. What can go wrong, but our favorite bets of the first round, we don't want to make this exclusively gambling. Hopefully you took some notes and helps out your bracket. But one more final break here on the Sheehan podcast,

and we'll take a look at some of our favorite bets of the first round. All right, Jim, we have talked long enough, probably bored people to death. It's that time of year, man. It's college basketball season. I know Sheehan would have spent a handful of minutes talking about the Wizards and their meltdown somewhere. But we're focusing on college hoops. We'll talk plenty of NFL.

I'm hoping to figure things out to get Sean on the podcast, Sean King, who ripped the hearts of many Redskin fans out back in, I think it was 2000 in the divisional round of the playoffs. But an exclusive college hoop pod today hopefully help you out. So let's get to some of our favorite bets of the opening round. I mentioned Colgate. They're an eight-point underdog. You know, I think as a 14 seat, only catching eight is telling you something.

So I do like Colgate quite a bit. That was my first bet. Went down to seven and a half, back up to eight, which I don't love. But I will roll with Colgate. We can kind of alternate back and forth. So I'll go Colgate plus eight. What is one of your favorite plays of the opening round? The first tip on Friday, first one to go, Loyola, Chicago, Ohio State.

I'm taking the Ramblers. I love this matchup for them. They've got a great two-time defensive player of the year, a great option to throw at Ohio State's Malachi Branden. Their only real offensive creator, Loyola has a ton of big game experience. Williamson, that defender, he played in the 2018 Final Four. He's been around forever. And then most of their starting lineup is back from the Sweet 16 last year.

So I trust Loyola and Ohio State's kind of fading. They took some tough losses late in the year. They lost to Maryland. I'm sure the listeners here are very fond of. And then they have some injuries. Zed Kee, Kyle Young, their two best big men dealing with an ankle and a concussion, respectively. So I think everything sets up well for loyal Chicago.

They're basically a pick-um minus one. So for bracket and betting purposes, just got to win, baby. Yeah. And I love those little factoids, you know, because of the COVID year, players have been around for ages. It feels like Lucas Williamson was on the final four team.

And actually, I looked it up. I mean, he was a key contributor. I think he played over 20 minutes in every game in that run. He wasn't a starter, but it was a key contributor for the Ramblers. I'm with you. I actually wrote that up for our website. I like you pointing out the times. Okay, so Ohio State Loyola first game on Friday.

Wisconsin Colgate. Look, what could go wrong, Jim, for all of these listeners at 10 o'clock on Friday, you know, them saying, Tim, it's over to take Colgate. All right, let's turn this game on. So I'm sure nothing could go terribly wrong at 1130 when Johnny Davis has gone for 47 points and they're up, you know, the badgers are up by 35. But I like the Raiders, maybe too much. All right.

Let's go over to a Thursday game. This is also late night on Thursday. And you can maybe double down on it too. I know you like it. Murray State. This is a team. You remember when they had John Morant. and they beat Marquette in the first round and lost to Florida State.

What was that, you know, 2018, I think. Yeah, it was the year that was 19 or 18? I think it was 19. 19. Yeah, 19. You know, the leading scorer in that game against Marquette was Tevin Brown, who's still on the team. KJ. Williams, still on the team.

Both of those guys were starters. You know, Murray State enters with, I believe the second longest winning streak in the country. They've got big wins over tournament teams. They beat Memphis, even though they might have been a bit disarray at the time. They beat Chattanooga. I like Murray State. And San Francisco coming out of the West Coast Conference, battle tested, you know,

lost the Loyola in a non-con game, but, you know, played Gonzaga well in that title game. They're dealing with injuries. And I think if they're big boy, who you can maybe shed a little bit more light on just who he is. But the transfer from San Diego is a blocking shot blocking machine. He didn't play against Gonzaga. If he's not playing or if he's, you know, limited, I think KJ Williams could kind of eat him up inside. So I like Murray State as a short favorite against San Francisco. Yep. That's that's big Yayan Masalski is who you're referring to. A big Eastern Euro dude. Yeah, he had a knee issue that, you know, I saw him during the Gonzaga game. I was at the arena and he

looked like he was limping around, didn't look like he was even able to walk smoothly. So, you know, he's just a little over a week later. Maybe he's rested up and he's going to give it a go. But I can't imagine he's 100%. That leaves them a little exposed up front. And I just, I buy this Murray State team, man. I'm picking up what they're putting down. They've got shooting.

They've got guards. They've got depth. Their sixth man is a South Carolina transfer, Trey Hannibal, and he gives them a lot of pop off the bench. That just tells you how good they are that a guy from South Carolina is their sixth man. coming in and giving them a boost. So yeah, as much as I love San Francisco and I kind of hope their coach is the coach of my alma mater next season. If he wants to come on down to Missouri. Some Maryland fans might be thinking that Todd Golden should be the next head coach of Maryland

here. All right. I'll fight you for him, Terrapin fans. I would love him at Missouri. But yeah, I love both teams, but I think Murray State just has the health edge and a little bit of a matchup edge as well. All right. So I'm on Murray State. You know, money line. Yeah. have what minus 120 or so they were actually it's a flip of favorite so you've seen money come in on murray state i just think with the uh the injury concerns there uh i took the eight with colgate you are in on loyola as am i uh another one mr root that you like i'll go st mary's we talked about it a little bit earlier indiana having the tough travel and prep situation headed all the way out to portland to take on a mega well coached gales team and i know we talked

about my elite eight run I have out of St. Mary's, but they can't get to the lead eight unless they win this game. And they're laying about two and a half or three points. If you want to just take the money line, and I think it's probably like minus 140, 150 or so. I would be okay with that as well. I just think they're a mirror image of Indiana in a much better version, a much smarter, more disciplined, patient version than Indiana. They're going to make the Hoosiers take some really tough shots there. That's what their defense is known for. So yeah, I'll go Gales. All right, my final one of the first rounds. You know what?

It's a late night game, Friday night. I've already got Colgate. Why not add on to another underdog? What could possibly go wrong? Give me the Jellyman, Jelly Walker. I'll take the eight and a half against Houston. I know that spread is a little bigger than maybe some people might expect. The advanced numbers love Houston, as Jim mentioned.

Me and him are a little against each other on this one, which is not a place I like to be. but I'm going to take the jelly man. UAB, give me the eight and a half. That is a late night Friday tip. So all my games falling in the evening hours there. So you got a final best bet that you like or favorite play? Yep, I'll dish out one more.

And it is an under. I think there's not going to be a lot of points in Seton Hall TCU. You know me, Tim. I love unders. I do. I think it's easier to spot the teams that can't score than the ones that are going to be in a shootout and hope for hot shooting.

But yeah, Seton Hall, TCU, 8-9 game. I believe this one is also late on Friday night. Maybe even the nightcap. You're familiar with the night cap. I am. I am. It's a good show. Yeah, yeah, quality show.

Neither team can really score in the paint here. Both defenses are geared to keep teams out of the paint, to protect the paint. TCU maybe has a route to points via offensive rebounding, but not a lot of jump shooting on the court here and not a lot of offensive. with execution and creation. So I think around 129, 130, wherever the total you see is at, I think that's a pretty solid bet to see a brick fest to end the first round there. All right.

So I will go Colgate plus eight Murray State Money Line, and I will take the points with UAB as my three favorite plays of the first round. Jim, just a quick recap of the three plays that jump out you the most. Yep. Loyola, Chicago. Pickham or minus 1, St. Mary is minus 2 and a half or minus 3, and then TCU, Seaton Hall, under 130. All right.

I think the people will be satisfied. Hopefully they learned a little bit more. One final nugget or question, Michigan announcing their point guard dealing with a concussion, won't play against Colorado State. This is the first game on Thursday. So the first game of the dance. I really liked Michigan as the host of this podcast,

say the 11 seed is laying two and a half that stinks. But now he being out, how big of a loss is this for Michigan against Colorado State? I think it matters a lot and mainly because he was playing so well. Down the stretch, he was great for them. Average about 16 points, six assists over the final three or so weeks of the season and really started to light their pick and roll offense on fire there in a good way. So without him, they've got to really reshuffle the attack, maybe play through the paint more. I already sort of lean Colorado State at plus two and a half because I just thought it was a coin flip.

Then when I got this info, I did end up taking the plus two and a half. It's not available anymore. I think it's down closer to one, one and a half. But leaning towards Colorado State there because of that injury absence for Michigan. All right. And then if people are listening to this before tonight's game, Notre Dame Rutgers, what do you expect there? I think Rutgers sucks on the road. They're great at home.

Notre Dame shouldn't be in the field of 68, and I'm a Notre Dame fan. You look at the resumes. It's laughable that Texas A&M is not in over them, but hey, here they are. And these are the types of teams, Jim, it always feels like, you know, we bitch and complain, like, oh, this team shouldn't be in, and then they go on a run. I don't know if Notre Dame has that in them, but what do you see in the first four tonight for those who may be listening to this before the game? I'm guessing Rutgers wins.

that's who I have picked. I'm not confident enough to recommend that as like a wage or anything. But I think, Tim, I think we see another under in the first four here. I think there's going to be a dearth of points in this one. Both teams can really frustrate the other's offense with some physicality. And Notre Dame will go zone a lot against Rutgers. And that's going to be a problem for the Scarlet Knights and their lack of shooting. So, yeah, I think the under pretty solid, slow half-court game with not a lot of points.

And just to piss off the people, listen. listening. Hey, Maryland, maybe you're watching your next head coach there on the sidelines there. I'm sure. Maryland fans are super thrilled about former Dematha coach or Dematha grad in Mike Bray. But maybe Mike Bray will just go back to Zalma mater at George Washington. Maybe that's the route that you go. All right, Jim, I've held you way, way too long. You're the man. Follow Jim on Twitter at second chance points. Check out the website 3-man-wave.com. Or follow. them on Twitter. You'll have how many countless videos up on the three-man weed Twitter feed. Yeah, as many as possible, we'll retweet them all from all the other places that we've got posted. We have some write-ups, little matchup keys for every single first round game on our website. We've got picks out at Action Network at Pixwise, some podcasts coming all over the place. Yeah, it's all kind of aggregated through that three-man weed Twitter feed. So if you

you're interested in looking for more of this kind of discussion, that's where you can find it. All right. That gentleman is Jim, Jim Root. Three man weave. I'm Tim Murray filling in for Kevin. I'll be back on Thursday and Friday and Monday. We'll maybe get an errand involved a little bit. I'm hoping to have my partner in crime, Sean King, relive that Redskins, Buccaneers, divisional game that upended so many evenings at a CIO basketball game. We're hoping to figure that out. But for Jim, I'm Tim. We will talk to you on Thursday.