The Kevin Sheehan Show - Jason Bourne

Episode Date: December 16, 2020

Cooley and Kevin with nothing but "Film Breakdown" of the Washington defense against the 49ers. Best grade of the year given out by Cooley. Guess who got it? Also, where does Landon Collins fit in next year. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Chean Show. Here's Kevin. All right. Film breakdown today on the show. Defensive film breakdown only.

I know yesterday's show was very long. I would urge all of you. Okay, listen very carefully. I know that you probably couldn't listen to the whole thing yesterday. But go back if you didn't make it to the end and listen to the last 10 to 5. 15 minutes of conversation between the two of us about Alex Smith and Dwayne Haskins and the various questions we posed to one another. I would urge you to do that if you didn't get a chance

to get to the end. Today is going to be all defensive film breakdown off of a dominating defensive performance over a terrible Nick Mullins and 49ers team. We're going in depth, play by play. The Cooley Film Breakdown. Here. Cooley and Kevin. You know, when I watch this game and then I watched this game again on film, Kevin, I thought, why didn't Kyle continue to run the football? And there are points in this game where I think he could have continued to run it. Right.

Decent runs on first down and then not sticking with it on second down. But I sat here and I charted it as I was waiting for you this morning. In the first step of this ball game. Really? You were waiting for me? Well, you were busy doing stuff. Well, no, I was busy doing stuff. And I said, can we go early this morning? and you said yes, and I said 9.30 my time.

You said, yes. And then you said, hey, I'm ready to go right now. I said, give me 15 minutes. And so as I was waiting for you for that 15 minutes later, I sent you the Zoom link. And 15 minutes after that, you dialed in. All right, continue. Well, about nine minutes of that was my computer dialing in. That's amazing.

But yeah, so I charted this in the first half, they had nine runs on first down. And had nine passes on first down, and two of them were two-minute passes on first down. So really their first down plays were fairly balanced in the first half as far as just the first down run pass calls. They were not completely unbalanced in the second half. They ended up having six or seven runs on first down. It just didn't seem to me like they stayed with the run game when they had opportunities to stay with it. And I think a couple of those situations are just good run on first down, pass on second down, incomplete or something short of the chains.

And then Washington did a tremendous job stopping San Francisco short on a lot of third downs. were third and twos, third and four, certain threes. And they were really good in third down defense. They were really good in third down defense. Made some big plays in this game. Let's start with the defensive line. I think it's funny, we usually start on offense with the quarterback and skill, and we always start on defense with the defensive line.

I just think the defensive line is the most exciting part of the film breakdown. And it's going to be good. Yeah. You know that. Yeah. Except for what you do. just said that you think Kyle should have continued to run the ball. And on Monday, when we recap the game, I said, you know, I have one knit to pick. And it was they got run on a little

bit in the first quarter. They gave up 54 yards in the first quarter, 5.4 yards per carry, 10 carries. And I thought that if they had stuck with it, that maybe they could have had more success. I know that they got better and more stout against the run. But if you go back to the last team that tried to run the ball against him, Detroit, the Lions. They ran it successfully in that game too. So, I mean, I guess ultimately this will lead to whether or not you think maybe a vulnerability of this defense is, you know, at times run defense or discipline in the run defense. But go ahead. Let's start with. Well, I mean, it's interesting because you talk about that and the last time they really got run on was by the Giants and that was a gap scheme inside type of run game.

The Lions ran it against them. The lines ran it a little bit. You're right. They had some success. And that was also some gaps teams and inside stuff. San Francisco is predominantly a perimeter type team as far as the run game, or at least it starts with the perimeter. And they had a good game plan for getting to the edge. You know, they took Dron Payne, Jonathan Allen out of some of these plays immediately stretching the edge.

And some of the plays they had, they did a nice job of influencing the defensive ends. using a tight end and fullback to double team them. And so you take that tight end and you widen hard, wide and hard release. And if he goes with him, the defensive end goes with the tight end, the tight end will take him. If the defensive end goes inside, then the fullback comes and scoops him up. And they got to the edge a couple times with that, especially on Chase Young got beat a couple times with that.

Ryan Carrigan got beat bad later in the game on that type of play. Kyle calls that play Zorro. I don't know why. I always fought that with him. I'm like, why are we calling it Zorro? Between the Y and the T or the Y and the. or the Y and the U. Let's call it something else Zorro's a stupid name for it.

But that's what he calls that play. It's good with the outside, widened outside linebacker. You know, they took advantage of some of those things where you put a lot of pressure on the linebackers to really flow or the safeties to really come down and make plays. And receivers did a pretty good job blocking early in that game.

You know, one adjustment, I think, that was really interesting was if you go back and you watch this game, the first two drives, Washington's in a five-man front, essentially playing a 3-4 type look. The touchdown drive early in the game, they went four-down the entire drive. And then they came back out after that and said,

no, no, no, we'll go back to the five-down front. Right. So they played a five-down look, and it's it is a three-four look. I think you would, in what they're playing, they'd call it an under defense, but it's a three-four look where you're, you have Tim Settle, Jonathan Allen,

and Duran Payne all inside, and Montezuela and Chase Young. on the outside just with their hands in the dirt versus stand-up outside linebackers. And they brought almost every time they ran that look, especially in first and second down, they brought all five of them, runner pass. They played coverage behind it,

but it was five-man pressures. I always thought Greg Mineski should have done that, way more when they were in their three-four, when they didn't have outside linebackers who could drop. Yeah. But I bet there's a lot more. You wish Minoski had done. Yeah, there's a lot more.

I will say this, though. A lot more skull cracking. Yeah, a lot more skull cracking. So stupid. Cracking skulls and taking names. I mean, really, there's a, like, if you want to have a knit to pick, only one of them, there was a third and four that they ended up completing. They dropped both Montez Sweat and Chase Young, and they blitzed Bostic.

It ended up being a DPI and ever. that was still complete and he had Moulins had tons of time to throw and you're watching this like hmm I'm gonna drop Montez sweat and Chase Young like you know the one where I you got it was an amazing catch where Shazer hit him in the back it was a DPI called on Shazer but he still caught it yeah I know I know the point that's the play it's a third and four they drop both of those two and I can just see like Del Rio sitting in his office like they'll never see this coming no one would believe I would do this shit it's crazy I love Trump but he but he but he did but he did it he did it and and afterwards he's like oh damn

almost worked I could have worked yeah I thought it might but now somebody else is going to have prepare for us dropping those two monsters into coverage. Right. This is, hey, we're not losing this game. This is, we're putting some, we're putting some tendencies on tape and we'll break them because we've never dropped both of those guys into coverage again. You know, next week I might drop on Payne too, and then we'll just bring some second. We'll bring all our secondary players and we'll drop our defensive line. Nobody's ever seen that.

We'll see if Payne and Allen can cover some of their receivers. actually I want to put these guys through a quiz I want to say I'm playing on the back end this is just funny it was a really good defensive performance and Del Rio did a really good job adjusting throughout the game so it was a good plan it was a good performance

it's just one play stupid idea though bonehead Chase Young the positives Wow. The speed early in the game rallying downfield on the college screen. Amazing speed.

Yeah. Great job. Again, drop the college play. That's what you call it. I like the name of that. I actually thought about this. Sorry to deviate again to make this a longer podcast. But my offense that I'm creating, I'm going to name the college.

play after who created that play? Who was first with that? University of Montana used to run the hell out of it. I might call it Montana. My boys and I back in the 90s when Spurrier was coaching Florida, and you started to see the wide receiver bubble screen, which the NFL didn't run. It may not have been Spurrier.

He may have gotten it from somewhere else, but you just saw a lot of Danny Werfel and a lot of Florida quarterbacks throwing that bubble, and it was like, we just referred to it as the college play. You know, the college play, the one where they, because really wide receivers, you know, in the 70s, 80s. It started in college. You're right.

In the 70s and 80s, there's always like the quick pop pass out to the receiver. Like, hey, just be ready. Right when I snap it, I'm throwing it out to you. But it wasn't with a host of blockers coming down to create, you know, an inside tunnel off of it. It was the original RPO. Yeah, but it wasn't an RPO as a called play. No. Yes.

You didn't have to have that as a called play. We used to run that all the time where there's a called run. And if the receiver has leverage or the DBs off, the quarterback is between the college play. I'm talking about the tunnel or bottle. Oh, the original tunnel screen. That's a call play. That is, yes, that is a called play. But the pop pass.

No, the pop pass. It's the original RPO. Sure. You know what? If you do what I do once every few months and you watch old games on YouTube and a lot of old Washington games with Billy Kilmerc quarterback and some of these and Thysman, you know, there was probably a lot of pop pass RPO's back then because just picture, you know, longtime fans. How many times did Thysman take a snap under center, never in shotgun,

and just quickly throw it out to Art Monk? You know, just quickly throw it. How many times to Billy Kilmer quickly just throw it out to Frank Grant. There's a name from the past for some of you. And that probably was like, you know, hey, we're going to run it if, you know, they're not, you know, loaded in the box. And if not, we're going to run the old, we didn't call it RPO. We're going to run the old option alternative play, the pop pass to our wide receiver. And then he'll just try to juke the corner and get five yards.

RPO. Yeah. Well, I'm going to call mine to the left, Florida, and to the right gator. How about that? That's the old college play. All right. Spurrier recognition. Ball coach.

Oh, you could call it Spurrier, too. That has an R in it. That's nice. So the right's going to be spurious. The left's going to be Florida. Back to Chase Young. Great speed on that play. Great speed on the first sack that he had where he's dropping as a zone lurking defender

into a man coverage defense. But he's a lurking defender. reaction to come up and hit the quarterback on that play. And I love that he doesn't fall for the pump fake. Like this is the worst one guys come up and then the quarterback's like gives that token like throw it. No, he ain't falling on that crap. Right. A force fumble from the backside down the line of scrimmage to get the ball out on who is who's the Wilson. He's so fast down the line of scrimmage. I mean sweat initially makes that point. We'll talk about that. But great job forcing that ball out. Constantly

falling back into the run on the front side of run plays does a really good job. Even though he gets stretched sometimes by Trent Williams, especially on that side, he still gets back into the run on some of those things. The scoop and score was incredible. Terrible ball security, though, if you watch that thing again. The ball's just hanging out there.

DeAngelo called it as look at him. There goes sweetness as in Walter Payton, because Walter Payton always carried the ball that way. Athletic play, though. Really athletic play. That's the play. That's the play that tells everybody that they need to scoop and score. Why would you fall on the ball when I can do that?

Right. Sean Taylor. Because most of you can't do that. What did you think when Sean Taylor for the first time just scooped and scored? You know, whether it was the Philly game or the playoff game or what, you know, all of those things. Like you're asking me a question like I didn't know he could do that. Well, I'm, like this is like you're asking, I've discussed with you just how incredibly athletic Chase Young is.

play one. I know. So what do I think? I think he's really good. I'm not surprised. When did you know that Sean Taylor was like a freak? Like the first day of practice? First day of practice.

Really? Yeah. I usually knew who was going to make the team to the last two or three when I was playing. Right. Within the first three days of practice. Yeah. So it's not, it's really there's,

there's about 10 guys on every team, at least 10, that you're like, ooh, this dude's sweet. And then there's another 20 that you're like, solid starter for sure. And then there's the other 20 or 30 in training camp that you're like, he ain't making this team. There's only about 20 guys every training camp to make the last 10 spots that you're deciding on. Yeah. Okay. Well, Chase Young's never going to be one of those guys. He's incredible.

You had a batted ball on a third and six in the fourth quarter. Probably he's going to be complete for a first down. It's a huge play in the game as well. He was all over the field. He made a boatload of plays. He had a couple batted balls. He has the scoop and score. He has the force fumble.

He has the sack. The negatives, I think you could have did a better job on the edge and the run game. And I think San Francisco did a good job of keeping him unsure. You know, they had him pinned on the edge on the Debo Fly sweep, the first play of the game. the tight end. I talked about that little fullback defensive end double team play.

He hasn't seen that yet. You know what I mean? Like that's a play he hasn't quite seen yet. Right. I haven't seen anybody to run that on him and very few teams do run that type of play

because almost nobody uses a fullback anymore, Kev. Right. He had a defensive off sides lined up in the neutral zone. He was in the neutral zone. It wasn't even close. It was weird. Agreed.

I think that's the second time he's done that this year. You know, I don't know, man. That would be one of those things that as a coach would drive me freaking nuts. Look, we can't actually do what we want to do on this play if the flag's going to fly before, you know, anything happens. I mean, you got to line up, not in the neutral zone. You can't be in the neutral zone.

That should be one of the first things. Like, am I lined up okay? Okay, I am. Now let me go rec havoc. It shouldn't even be discussed. Well, it should be if it happens more than once. How many of you here, this Pop Warner, 7-8-year-olds? How many of you have played football before?

Okay, you guys, so you understand, if you're playing D-line, you've got to be behind the ball. Yeah, the rest of you, here's the line. You have to start behind that line. Yeah, I mean, I think sometimes, you know, even with, you know, players who are experienced and older, sometimes it is not, it's not underrated to state the obvious. And then restate it and then restate it and then restate it.

Yeah, I would. Until it becomes ingrained. You're right. I got no problem with that. It just sucks when you're in week 12 of an end of 14 of an NFL season. You're like, all right, guys, come on in here. Look, we got to line up on sides. We can have to line up on sides.

Lucas did it on the other side. Yeah. Lucas did it early in the game on the other side. Right. Lined up too deep in the backfield. Big corny. And you've got to be way off sides to get called in the NFL. It's true.

It's almost like the traveling in basketball. Do you know how many times in watching an NFL game, I think somebody's in the neutral zone? The first thing I do is look for that line judge to see if he's reaching for his flag. And when he doesn't, so many times I'm like, was it the TV angle? It just looked like that guy's helmet was on the other side. side the ball. Like, sometimes they just miss it.

They just don't want to call it. Yeah. I do it all the time when you go two receivers to a side or three receivers to a side where there's no tight end on that side. And it looks like both of them are off the ball or both of them are on the ball. It's like, who's on here? Who's on and who's off? I'm really not sure.

I mean, one of them definitely pointed at the side judge and said I'm on. But, okay, anyways, let's move on. Yeah. really there's only another there's one more run play on that first drive down towards the red zone it was a bigger run that ended up getting them all the way down pretty close you know they the tight ends lined up over young he arcs out wide and blocks camera curl young comes up field and they kick him out from the backside with the fullback and it's like that's again i used to love when we run that when we ran that player that's one of my favorite plays in kyle's offense which play

It's the first and five. Actually, the play after Chase Young lined up in the neutral zone, it's on the touchdown drive going in. It's really, it ends up being like a weak side zone play that's fully to the strong side. It's an awesome play. So they arc the tight end over Young. They get a heck of a double team on, I think Jonathan Allen, the D tackle. And then they short fly juice check to kick out Chase Young.

Yeah. And they do what is one of your favorite things tossed to influence the defense. Right. So it's a quick little. toss to a really almost what is a weakside zone play. They call it weakside zone because Kyle called this Wanda and then they kick out Chase Young. He just hasn't felt this before. If you watch this play, tied in arcs, he goes flying up field. He doesn't see juice check on the short fly motion, gets kicked out and then here goes Wilson up to middle. It's a cool little play. I think they could

have ran that play more too. Don't you love both Mostert and Wilson, by the way? I think he's got the same incredible feel and vision. Both of them do. I think most or it's a more physical back with a little bit better vision and it's the whole little bit quicker but I do like Wilson. I just,

the play in particular that we're talking about that I think is an 11-yard gain it didn't take feel or vision here. It was tossed to him. There's a huge gash to run through. But yeah, I do. They're both good backs. So yeah, the thing is when you look at Chase Young

when you overall grade is, is there are some negative plays in this game, but the overwhelming positive plays he made changed the game. Right. The game I cut three touchdowns against the Dallas Cowboys. Yep, 2005. Dog crap in the second half of that game,

but that's an A performance by me. You really didn't play well in the second half of that game? No, the game was over. Right. They kept putting me in the backfield, making me do these kickout blocks. I'm like, dude, I scored three touchdowns. Stop playing me a fullback.

It's making me kickout defensive ends. This is garbage. I'm not doing this stuff. Let's keep throwing the ball. So it was Young and A-plus? Yeah, Young's an A-plus, man. Okay. How did he do in his match-ups against Trent?

Whenever he was matched up against Trent. I mean, not bad at all. He had a couple decent rushes. They moved him all over the field, too. They've been doing that all year. Not as much as this game. Okay. This game I saw Montes Sweat lined up on the other side more times than I had in the past.

Got it. I thought he did well. And I mentioned, you know, some of the run plays at him were Trent's blocking him. He gets moved a little bit initially. And Trent's tough, man. But he's still finding a way to fall back into plays. I mean, it was just a huge game. Montez Sweat.

Really good on the edge. Hold the point. Still almost slipping inside, making plays. cross face on the backside of a run play they tried to block him with Bourne at one point it was funny that they tried that that's silly some of the good plays they had they think they're going to block Monta's sweat with Bourne on the backside please hit tuck for lost there awesome pressure off of Trent Williams it forces an incomplete pass in the second quarter throwaway ball by Mullins would have been an easy completion to the middle of the

field huge pressure there pressure right there tackle on an inside zone in the third quarter it was the first on the third and 24 for a no game but those are big plays that third and 24 they try to run that little inside zone play and a lot of times you get eight nine yards and that's big field position difference sure tackle no gain is huge there great penetration on the forced fumble by chase young you know he forces that back to slow down he he is the They're trying to pin him with Eusecheck. Yeah. And he out leverage and pin sweat.

He is five yards up the field. The back has no chance. He's got to stop right there. Eusechek stays on him just enough. But Chase Young's got plenty of time with that to come down the backside. That's a collaborative effort right there. That was a great play by Montez Sweat. A rally tackle on IUC on a college stream play at the end of the first half.

It's the play before the fumble six. Right. That's a big play, Kev. Yeah. I mean, that's, it's Montes Slet as high motor too. Oh, God. He's down the field. He's big time.

The sack out of the pocket, he had a sack in this game in the third quarter. Really, Jonathan Allen just missed a sack and handed it to Montez Sweat, but still could rally down the line of scrimmage and get that sack right there. Great rush late in the third quarter forces a holding call on a big Bourne reception on a third and two. That was critical. Bourne had that big play on a third and two that would have converted right there. He beat Moreland and right there, sweat would have had a sack. If McGlinchy doesn't hold him, it would have been a sack. They called holding.

It was clearly holding. Right. It was so holding that I'm watching the game in real time and I'm like, there's a hold. Yeah. He had the rough in the passer on the touchdown drive that ended up giving them a conversion on a third down. That was a dumb penalty. but I still, I, they call that so so flippantly now. Flippantly.

They do. Oh, he hit him, he knocked him down late. He's definitely roughing the passer. Montes-Swed was a name. Ron Payne. Just great initial push on the center in some of the zone run plays. Even at times when he got behind the center, the ability to just shove the center back into the play. It's amazing.

He's so strong. I want to say this too before, like just watching page. again in this game. He is really fast. Oh my God, he's so athletic. He is really, he's really fast. I'm so surprised that he's not just a little bit better in terms of being a pass rusher. Yeah. He doesn't have the moves that he, if he develops one or two moves or gets a little bit

better at a couple of them, I mean, God. Yeah. But he can run. I'm surprised you're saying that for the first time. I'm not saying it for the first time, but I'm just saying it in watching this game. Like he can really run. Oh, he's so athletic. He's ridiculously athletic.

He is. He is. Win inside. Win inside for a tackle for a one-yard gain. Just a quick little step and swim, swat the center. And like swim, swat the center. Had a fumble recovery. That was a big play.

Had the sack fumble looping outside on that play. And then he falls back in. And that's a great swat as Mullen steps up. And by the way, really nice block on that play as well to finish the sack fumble play. The play where I'm talking about speed, it's the third and 14 college screen where he's rallying down the field. It's nice. And then he had a tip ball in this game. The negatives, there are times where he's getting behind initially with the lateral movement in the run game.

Center guard, double teams. You know, sometimes he can still shove back into the play. he's not getting Kendall Reyes down the field. Thank God. But he's getting behind the blocks a couple of the times, and that doesn't help them out in some of those situations. John Payne was an A-minus in this ballgame. Well, look at what we got going here.

Jonathan Allen. Dude, he's so strong, smart. At times he even loses initial leverage, but then he can still battle back across the face to regain leverage. It's awesome. It's a difference a lot of times in a three-yard gain or a six-plus. It's just smart. You feel yourself getting behind a block a little,

bit and so many guys just at that point then play up the field and they're playing up the field out of gap and that's exactly what you want in that zone stretch scheme but instead of playing upfield out of gap you just lose maybe a yard and then you cross face back into the front side of play jonathan allen did this three or four times in in this game you know all the credit went to chase young on that first college screen rally down the field mm-hmm watch jonathan allen on that play i thought he hustled all day long you talk about how fast chase young is that's a second on the second drive. Right.

Pull that play up. Both Allen and Chase Young transition and get through the ball at the same time. Which play is it? It's on the second drive. It's a second down and seven. And I didn't know exactly what second down it is on the second drive, but it's the second drive of that ballgame for San Francisco in the first quarter.

You'll find it very quickly. I got it right now. Short left to Brandon Ayuk for five yards. I mean, it's still five-yard gain, but go to the end zone copy of this thing and watch Allen and Chase Young transition. They meet at the ball. Alan is just as fast. This is a team, Cooley, that rallies to the football defensively. How many times have we said, God, it's a bad tackling team?

It's a team that you see guys that don't play until the whistle. Rivera's teams have always played that way. So have Del Rio's teams. They are a hustling outfit. I mean, you've got guys never chasing down from areas of the field that you don't think there's a chance they can make the play, but they're going through the motions of chasing it down. It's a team that plays with a ton of team speed, but because they're hustling, you see the team speed. There's no doubt about it. And they're getting faster.

They're not actually getting faster. They're playing faster. Two or three different times he beats a guard in front of his face as Jonathan Allen does on the, the front side of zone plays. It's just, it's awesome. He's making tackles for one, two-yard gains in those situations. He's also really making it hard for them to get to the linebackers on the second level. He had a great pass rush one-on-one in the first quarter on the fourth drive, had a chance for a huge completion to Bourne down the middle. The ball ends up being thrown just past him, but Jonathan Allen has a quarterback hit on that play. Honestly, if Allen doesn't have a hit on that play,

Bourne has a chance to be over-the-top of the safety as well. Could have been a sixer. Oh, six-er. Good bull rush it. And a quarterback hit at the end of the half on a third and 15. I want you to pull up the third and 15 at the end of the half. The third and 14? 13, end of the half. Oh, my. And I'm going to just tell you how big this play is by Jonathan Allen.

Because there are times when you realize or when you don't realize just how big a play is. Jonathan Allen gets in and makes a huge hit. It's a third and 15. Yeah, I got it. 20 seconds left. He just pushes that pocket back and just, I mean, Mullen. Watch Kendall Fuller at the bottom of the screen.

Jason Bourne is going to run a 15-yard double move with the comeback to go. Jason Bourne. Jason Bourne. What am I calling him? K.J. Born is his name. Jason Bourne. I'll tell you what. There's some good movies.

A lot of them with Jason Bourne. That's what I'm doing it. It's KJ. Born. I didn't know that. I'm watching Fuller on this play. K.J. Boren runs a double move, and Fuller tackles him. That ball's going to go to J. Morgan.

That's going to get called. That is a definitive holding penalty. It's actually a really smart play with 20 seconds left by Fuller right there to not let him get over the top. He got beat. Why he's jumping that double move? I don't know. You think that's coached right there to absolutely grab them? Of course, there are 20 seconds left in the half.

Well, it's not coached to get beat on a double move. No. But I mean, on the numbers, BORN is running a deep comeback and takeoff. There's, I don't know how they don't make this call. Well, they don't make the call because the sack basically is happening simultaneously or the hit on a quarterback. And the quarterback is literally out of the pocket almost at that point. Well, it's because Jonathan Allen has an incredible bull rush

and then gets his hands all over Mullins and forces Mullins to just, dump one out into the ground. Yeah. That's a difference of what? That's 20 yards downfield, that DPI. Yeah. They're probably going to get a chance of a field goal right there. That's how big that play is by Jonathan Allen.

It's huge. Yep. And it's funny because you're going to get a quarterback pressure on that thing. Maybe a quarterback hit. But it's bigger than that, you know? Yeah. Those are game changers. Um, he had a miss tackle on a sack outside of the pocket.

He's got to be so mad. You know, Montes Sway ends up getting the sack, but it's a great swim move by Allen one-on-one, and he forces Mullins to flush right, and then he just misses him. Sweat ends up getting him. I'd be so mad if I was playing defensive line and missed a sack like that. Still big time play by Jonathan Allen. Look, again, some of the only. negatives are kind of the pain negatives is you get caught playing behind a double team and a lot of

these are later in drives. It's what happens when you get tired and that's where they start to get some of the bigger runs. Right. It wasn't often. It wasn't common, but it happened two or three times to both of them. Jonathan Allen was an A in this game. We just gave every single starter along the on the defensive front. A, three, two A's, an A plus for Young, an A4. And A4. for sweat, an A for Allen, and an A minus for pain. Wow. What about Settle and Kerrigan and the rest of them? Settle.

Had one good bull rush early in the game. It's the third play of the game, gets a quarterback hit on the play. Other than that, he was the one that really got stuck playing behind zone more times than anybody else. He had very little impact on any of the run plays. He's behind blocks. He had two little penetration, almost zero show up in the run. Settle was a D plus. and Ryan Carrigan, you know, a couple really good bullrushes in this game.

The Chase Young sack early in the game. Goodbye, Kerrigan, make the dummy quarterback move to the left. And then here comes Chase Young flushing up to make that play. I actually wrote down, you asked me a question, how would I play Duane Haskins if I was Seattle? This is the way we would play him. I would play man to man across the board, is what's that playing on the Chase Young sack play.

I think it's a third and four. they're dropping a middle linebacker as an alert player in the middle of the field. The safety is deep as a zone player. So you have two zone players in the safety in the linebacker. And then you're dropping that weak side defensive end to be another soft zone player initially. But then the second Duane would step up, I would just attack with that other defensive end. I'd bull from the other side, push him, force him to run the left, step up and play. Watch that third and four early in the game with the Chase Young sack.

that's exactly what I'd do to Dwayne. That's how I'd play him. Ryan Kerrigan, look, the couple of run plays too far upfield, pinned by the fullback. Good tackle on a third and 24 for no gain, chasing it down the backside.

He's a guy that I think was moved a little bit too much at the point of attack. He does battle to get back inside to on-plays late, but he's moved too much at the point of attack. Kerrigan was a C-plus in this game. So, you know, all A's, and then Kerrigan and settle. Did you review film-wise Smith Williams?

Yeah, I liked Smith Williams. I thought Smith Williams just made a couple good plays. Had a heck of it but a block. Oh, yeah, on the Curl Interception Return. On the Curl Interception Return. He was a C. He played, I think he played 14 plays, so I graded him. I graded him a C.

I didn't have a ton of notes on him on him in this game. They must like him a lot. His play count is never, you know, over the last few weeks, has increased. He's part of the rotation a little bit. You know, two seventh round picks, Curl and Smith Williams contributing. Curl in a major way. All right, are we done with the D-line? We're done with the D-line.

All right. We'll get to the linebackers and or secondary next right after this word from one of our sponsors. Let's get to the linebackers and safeties. We'll start with Bostick. He was better in this game. He was better last week. Exactly. One of the things I've seen with Bostick is he's improving at avoiding offensive linemen in the run game, not necessarily taking on blocks.

I want you to pull up the second play of the game in the end zone copy. It's a second down in one, and Moster gets two yards. It gets the first down. But watch Bostick in the middle of the field. You know, this has been one of those plays where there's a double between the center and guard. The guard comes up. he gets all over Bostick, but Bostick slips outside, back inside, and he gets himself in on the tackle,

and you're like, that's what we're talking about here. Our D-line has the ability to eat up some of these double teams to give you space to avoid them on the second level. There's no double teams right now that are pushing vertical, our defensive line, back into the linebackers. They're displacing the offensive line enough that it makes it hard on some of these plays to get to the linebackers. So just avoid.

And Bostick does it here. Yeah, it does a good job. And it doesn't seem like a big thing. It's a two-yard game. They get a first down. But to me, those are the type of plays that are the difference between two yards and five yards. Right. Which is huge in the run game.

So it's so much better. And throughout this game, a lot of times, avoiding when he can see a one-on-one collision coming. I thought it was better in the run-action pass. The third drive of this game, there ends up being a completion downfield to IUC. I think it's for 17. But pull up the third drive of this game, the 17-yard completion to Ayuk down the field. And it's, again, it's a second one run-action pass. But watch Bostick on this thing.

You know, Bostick steps up a little bit. But then he turns, he immediately looks up Iyuk on the crosser, and he runs to exactly where Ayuk's going. He doesn't make the play. But that said, this is to a lot of the first part of the season, some wrong way Bostick that we're talking about. And on this particular play, it's really good eyes initially. it's good lookup, it's good try to match a pattern. He's a little bit late to it. But my God, this is a vast improvement over what he's been in the past.

And you know what he can do and he has been able, he can run. He's got some speed. Yeah, no doubt. I think he does. He can truly run. So does Hulk come. Another, yeah, another one of these same type of plays. They end up completing that drift route in the third quarter.

They go play action and then they drift the IUC into the. middle of the field and Bostick does a phenomenal job of recognizing this, almost picking it. IUC ends up, it's the one that IUC ends up catching that should have been a no catch. They heard to the line of scrimmage. It's that low ball. Yeah. But my God, Bostick turned and got himself in on that play. He almost picked it.

Yeah. I'm like, if I fist pumped him. Let's go. Let's go, man. It's huge. You know what? We forgot about that play. That was a play that wasn't a catch, but they never had time to challenge it, right?

They did not have time to challenge it. Yeah. Well, they had time. They just didn't challenge. They didn't challenge. 49ers went to the ball. Yeah. Sure.

By the way, Ayuk is impressive to me. I think Ayuk is a really good player. He was a second round pick. I thought he was at Arizona State. Second rounder, I think he was a first round pick, wasn't it? Yeah, Iook was a first round pick. Yeah. Iyuk's a good player.

There's no doubt about it. Downfield on some screens, making some tackles. Again, he can run. Good leverage on the running back on. an in-break on the curl pick six. You know, the running back is running a choice route here on the curl pick six. And Mullins is working the running back to the left first, but Bostick's got good leverage on his drop and he turns down the in-break.

The running back should have just sat it down. It was soft zone. He should have turned, sat down, hooked up. But he breaks in and Bostick's right there. So the quarterback turns it down. And then he makes a stupid idiot throw to Cameron Curl who has a pick six. But Bostick initially turns that thing down. He was trying to throw it.

So, use check. God, that's a terrible throw. It doesn't matter if it does not matter what Ushchek does on that play. He could sit there and wait for that ball. It makes literally no difference. That is a pick six the second it leaves his hand. Ushek has no impact on this play. You watch it 10 times and you cannot.

The only thing Ushchek could do is immediately recognize that Curl's going to pick it and start tackling him. That's the only thing that you possibly do. It's going to be a pick. The hustle by Smith Williams on that plays outstanding to get the block because he doesn't score. And you know what, with the offense playing the way it was, without that block, I mean, it's at the 45-yard line.

Yeah, no doubt. Bostick, huge play in the fourth quarter on a third down and one to get out to the flat and break it up on Charlie Warner. Try to throw a flat to Charlie Warner on a third down and one. Yeah, I got it right here. Your guy, Charlie Warner. It doesn't matter what Charlie Warner does. It doesn't matter right there if Charlie Warner catches that ball on the third one.

Oh, great play. That's a great job by Bostick. And then later in the game on a fourth down and, 10, he does a really good job getting in on a tackle. I think it was born, it was born our Iuke that made that catch on a fourth and 10 that Bostic

tackles him short with Darby. It was funny because Bostick did hold up fourth down at the end of that play. You're like, no, no, no, hold up five because that fourth down's over now. Yeah, well, that was the last play. That was their last chance. You know, they were to sell down eight and they threw it a little bit short and

you know, anyway. Yeah. Some of the negatives. which there were, struggles to avoid traffic and gets caught up inside the line of scrimmage. Like the first Debo sweep, Samuel sweet play. Like he's always, he keeps some of these, he's like almost pressing too hard to get into the line of scrimmage. That's what you've been coached to do lately.

We know that, that he'd been too passive into the line of scrimmage. But as things start to go lateral, you've got to scrape and fly over the top a little bit more. I think, and I wrote again, struggled numbers to numbers, navigation of blocks and he keeps wanting to get downhill too quick he's beat by mostert on the second drive of the game on a choice route it's the first play of the second drive you can pull this thing up if you just want to see a play that could have been a completely different play second drive of the game for

san francisco they throw a choice route to most it yeah it's it's 100% a choice concept bostick overruns the initial arc release if most of it breaks in here it's it's a problem. Moster could have went either way. He's one-on-one with Bostick. He ends up breaking out on this choice concept. I'm sure Kyle and everyone in the game, because there's no middle player in the middle of the field, right?

Like, it's a five-man rush. They got no one in the middle of the field. Break in Mostert. He breaks out. Bostick rallies for a tackle for seven. I mean, it's not the, end of the world. But if you watch this from the sideline, watch Bostic just completely overrun this to the outside. All Moster's got to do is just double stick him inside. And it's, it's 30.

He didn't know. Yeah. He didn't. A couple times in the zone game run through underneath too early guessing, can't guess. Not often, but once or twice to cut up in run action pass all the way into the line of scrimmage. And then lastly, it's a first and 10 with five minutes and 45 seconds in the second quarter left. I want you to pull up this play because I think we just, it's become fun for me and I have to do it every single week, but we're going to do it. It's five minutes, 45 seconds left in the second quarter.

I'll let you pull it up and just watch Bostic. And you can describe what happens on this play. Is it the second and 10? The play is exactly at five minutes and 45. seconds. I didn't write down the down-and-distance on this way. You get the wrong time here. You get the wrong times. No. Five minutes and 45 seconds of the second quarter? Yeah.

Okay, I got it now. I got it. Is this Jeff Wilson's one year, uh, six-yard run? Yeah. Okay. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, where's it going? Describe what you see. Wait a minute. I thought I saw somebody running out on this side and so I went over here to the right, but the play was actually going to the left and right up the middle where I was because it cut back right to where I was, but I decided that I was going to go all the way towards the sideline because something just flashed in front of my eyes. I thought I saw the ball out in the flat. This is happened to anyone, Coach. This could happen to anyone. Perry Riley had happened to all the time. He's the last player to recognize this. He sees the fly sweet motion. He then continues to go with the fly sweet motion.

Then he looks back in there. So this happens to him. You got to have one. It happens way left. It happened way less in this game. Right. John Bostic was a B. There we go. He plays at a B level. They're going to win games on defense.

You get that player to play at a B level, week in and week out, and they're going to win games on defense. Back to back. A minus last week against the Steelers for Bostick and a B this week. Yeah, that is a hell of a performance by a guy that was really struggling at times. There's no doubt about it.

Cole Holcomb. again, I urge everybody to get the All-22, and you can pause the podcast while you listen to us and find some of these plays that Kevin and I go through. But very first play of the game, watch Cole Holcomb get absolutely waxed by Trent Williams. My God, Trent Williams pulls outside, Holcomb's arcing to it, and Trent Williams just blows him up.

You know what? You love to start the game by getting hit. Now I'm ready to play. Whoa, dude. Let's get those cobwebs out of here, man. Let's shake it up. Oh, my God. Trent Williams.

I mean, he can still play, can he? Oh, buddy. He just took Cole Holcomb and put him straight on his back. It's the IU. It is just, it's, well, it's the Debo Samuel one play. And maybe the last play of the year. I think he's going on injured reserve after that. that play. Oh my gosh. So Cole Holcomb just gets flatbacked. I mean that that's one where he got

silverbacked is that one where the offensive line coach is just running it over and over again in the meeting over and over and over. I mean look at Trent Williams just unload with his hips right there. It's absolutely amazing. The most play for nine yards that Shayser hit him big time. Cole is late on a scrape over the top. They had a corner blitz and then stunt inside with the defensive line. Cole Holcomb's got outside leverage. He is too soft on the outside. Can't keep his arm free.

It's a weird attempt at an arm tackle for Holcomb. I'm not sure what happened. Maybe he's still dazed early in that game than that Trump Williams hit. Beat one-on-one by a Jordan Reed. Inside, okay coverage, but it's caught. He gets crossed up by Jordan Reed. He gives up leverage late in the game on a toss on a fourth quarter drive. drive on the touchdown drive.

He's taken on a block, but he loses leverage outside. I thought Holcomb, you know, he shows speed from the backside to run things down and scrape over the top, but this to me was Holcomb's worst game. He was a C-minus bordering very close, right on that fringe of a D-plus, but he was a C-minus in this game. Kevin Pierre-Lewis. God, that sack he had where he blew up Juice-Shek was so big time, man. He's fast, too.

That blitz off the edge, and he hit Yushik and knocked him straight down. That was a straight blowup. No trip, no nothing. Straight blow up. You check. Go make a play. Huge. There's one play where he's trying to come back inside and he gets just pinned hard, not able to make the play.

There's the play the next drive, a couple of plays later where he's on the other side of the field. And he starts to go inside and then he sheds back outside and makes a play. So a couple good plays. He didn't play a lot in this game. Did he get hurt because Sean D. on Hamilton start playing? You're right. He must have.

I don't think he got hurt, but Sean Deon Hamilton had almost the same number of snaps. Yeah, I got Pierre Lewis was a B plus. Dionne Hamilton was a little bit better. He can get caught in the wash with his eyes. His eyes and keys early, he struggles with some of the misdirection stuff and run. He did have a huge stop on a second and one in the fourth quarter, sniffs it out, gets in the backfield, finds a good fit and tackles the running back for no gain. and then Bostick had the stop on the third and won the next place.

So that was big time by Sean D. and Hamilton, but he was a C-minus in this game. Real quickly, just like I noticed after the fact that Inman didn't get any snaps, obviously they had it with him. Thomas Davis didn't play at all in this game. No. After playing a little bit more against Pittsburgh. The one thing I've noticed with Sean D on Hamilton,

I think they like him in their short yardage packages as their middle linebacker. What did you give Hamilton? He was a C-minus. Okay. Let's take a break for a word from one of our sponsors, and then we will get to the corners and safeties. The secondary. We'll start with the safeties.

Start with the Shazer Everett. That didn't hit, man. That first play where he, it's not the first play, but where he drills Mostert. Coming off a block of Boren, hits him with his shoulder, and just, I thought that changed the way Moster played in this game. Mosterts still had some good runs,

but, man, he knocked Mostert down, and you could see him kind of hesitate there for a second. Like, who, who, who. I mean, you know when you get hit like that. Great drive on a boot play from center field puts a big hit on Iyuk on the sideline, knocks him way into the sideline, but really good drive on the ball from center field to make that type of hit. I think he's starting to really know exactly what he's seen. There's some plays where he's slow out of his back pedal,

but you can see his eyes and his keys are really good in this game. So I feel like he's getting a better feel for what he's seen. An awesome hit again on Moster. actually that's the one I just talked about right excuse me on that one some of the negatives from de chaser ever receivers did a pretty good job of blocking him outside on the zone play they push up at the corner and then they really crack san francisco does a good job with that pierre garson used to do a phenomenal job with that if you remember that push crack type of play yep made it tough he's trying to run through he's got to

understand those receivers to come and block him from the outside especially on the front side of zone should have known that got blocked three or four times that way late drive on a deep I you did a great job of flattening out the crosser. Shazer's late on the drive on the ball, but he's still close. Like he can see it. I thought once two flat footed in the middle of the field, it's a shot to Bourne, the first play of the fourth drive. The ball's thrown out a little bit further than Bourne can get,

but he's laid on it driving that thing. Slow break on a corner route by Bourne as it covered two safety. It's a completion to Bourne. Jason Bourne, that is. He has a great shoestring tackle on the plate. The one thing I did notice, though, like he's laid as a two safety driving hard to that out, deep breaking corner out.

But if you, that deep corner that Borg got, you can find it if you want wherever. He does a really good job. Both him and camera curl are starting to do a very good job disguising coverage. So they're playing cover too. But both safeties are more towards the hash than they are the numbers.

So it makes it hard for the quarterback to recognize. recognize some of these coverages. He did recognize it and he still hit it, but I like that they're getting more confident that they're disguising coverage. And then he had a DPI hitting Iuke in the back on a third down and four. Just go around and make a play for the play on the ball. I know you want to hit him in the back, but make a play on the ball. How are you caught that ball? I don't know. I know. Great catch. Chaser Everett was a C in this ball game. Cameron Curl. Yeah. The positives. It's an awesome drive on a quick outbreak by Iyuk and a past breakup on the first drive of the game like really good drive on on an outbreak I used good player and he was all over that

thing I think he has a good feel for the run game he falls back into plays on the front side of things he gets gap control he knows where the back's going to hit he has good timing for when to fall back into place uh really good avoid of Trent Williams getting in on that tackle on the college screen that we talked about Jonathan Allen and chase young but he avoids Trent Williams right there to get back in that thing right does a really good job shedding wide receivers making tackles consistent pattern matching in this game. He's getting so much better as an inside safety and matching some of these things inside.

Great eyes on the interception TD. Really good feel for where he's sitting. Good anticipation of that ball. They caught Mullins with his pants down right there. That was brutal. Blitz late in the game, spin out, flushes a quarterback, and it gets a big pressure for an incompletion. Later in the game, he has a tackle falling down

on an inside college screen. The inside tunnel screen gives up seven yards, but they end up not allowing a first down on that drive. He's fighting through a block. He makes a tackle falling down. It's a big tackle right there. It looks like seven. You're like, shoot, we gave up seven on that little screenplay,

but they get a stop on second and they get a stop on third down. And so ultimately, that's a huge tackle, Kev. You never know what tackles are going to be huge. Third and two in the fourth quarter, it's the play where sweat forces the holding. Jordan Reed's running a choice route. They are bracketing Jordan, Cole Holcomb, and Curl. Yep.

Curl does a really good job, not giving up leverage to the outside, not allowing Jordan to break outside, forcing him inside, but keeping presence while he forces him inside to turn him over to Holcomb, that the quarterback has to come off that thing. It makes Mullins take forever, and then he ends up getting the ball out late to Bourne, which was complete, but because it took forever. sweat would have been there for a sack. That's a really good job by camera curl.

Again, understanding concepts and pattern-mashing. A couple negatives. I think he can be better with a reroute of wide receiver in some of the tight-split plays. Just get your hands on them a little bit more from inside. He did drop an interception at the end of the half on an overthrow by Mullins. That's not a huge negative,

but he had a chance at an interception. Ultimately, though, I thought Cameron Curl was exceptional in this game. I thought it was his best game. I thought it was his most consistent game. I thought he played all over the field. showed a bunch of different looks from safety positions. If it looks like he's feeling more comfortable, is physical, is aggressive, can run, can move, can tackle.

He can cover. Yeah, I was just going to say he's super versatile. You can have him in there as sort of a hybrid linebacker, and you can also have him as a slot corner. Yeah, you can play him in a ton of positions, and he played that slot corner early in the season, so it's comfortable inside at that spot. Cam McRoehlow's name.

All right. This is the highest grade of the season. Jeremy Reeves came in and played. Yes, he did. Dude, one of the first plays you noticed, Jeremy Reeves, they throw a seam to IUC up the numbers. The ball's a little bit underthrown, but Jeremy Reeves does a phenomenal job

with his eyes keying the quarterback and then breaking on that ball, and it's almost an interception. Great job reading the quarterback and really good speed from transition to the middle of the field to get to the numbers on Ayyuk. They had a good tackle on the back

in a flat. I thought consistently good job coming down and making some of those tackles. Although he did have a miss tackle on Bourne on a third and two, the one with the holding play. He's taking a shot, I think, to keep him from getting the first down, but you can't miss that tackle coming down as a safety. You just got to make a play right there. And then great break on a tackle on Reed on a short in route.

It's a third down on the touchdown drive. it stops him short. They end up getting to a fourth and four where sweat rough the passer, but that was a really good job right there on that little short en route by Jordan Reed. I think it was third and nine going into it to stop him short for a fourth down and four.

I thought Reeves was a B plus. You know, the first play that you mentioned, the play that you mentioned where he nearly had to pick on the seam route, if that ball's thrown better, he probably does have a pick. I mean, what a break on the ball on that. I mean, and really showed speed.

I mean, I haven't paid a lot of attention to Reeves, but as that deep, you know, single high free safety, man, did he break on that ball and he moved? And if that ball's a little bit better thrown by Mullins, which most of his balls were not, that probably is a pick on his third snap of the game. There's a good chance it's a pick. That ball would have had to be so perfect

and widened the receiver outside the numbers to keep it from being picked or to give it any chances of completion. What did you give Reeves? That would have to have been an A plus dime ball B plus. B plus. All right. The cornerbacks in this game. There are three cornerbacks and that'll finish our film breakdown for the day.

Ronald Darby. I thought Darby was really good. I did. I'm watching in its entirety. When you watch Darby and coverage throughout this game, he's not beat. He's good with his hands. He's really good in flipping his hips, running with receivers. He was good at transition at the top of his breaks,

made a couple of key plays in this game. But really, his jam, timing, disrupting receivers was big. Like the fourth and 12 that ended up being complete the last play of the game, the last chance of the game. That's a great job by Jarby, Darby, jamming, jamming, jamming, disrupting the timing, forcing the receiver to run that thing short at about nine yards. And then ultimately, right there with Bostick to make the tackle. I mean, it's a completion thrown at him.

But really good job being aggressive right there in a critical situation in that game versus just playing off. earlier in the game, I think, actually the third quarter, there was a short in-rout thrown that he drove on and broke it up. And you're like, that's awesome, man. I'm seeing more from Darby in terms of his transition and trust with some things. You know, you mentioned IUC being open a couple times and the middle of the field had some openings a couple times.

Essentially, a big part of that is, I think, the way they're playing defense. Anything vertical pressing to hooking up, our corners are locking on a little bit more. they're turning things free to the inside of the field to linebackers and safeties to make some of those plays. It's just the way they play defense. It's the way they played defense from day one. I thought Ronald Darby was an A-minus in this ballgame. I thought he was good.

Kendall Fuller. I mean, we talked about the one tackle play at the end of the half. It was like, God, you can't get beat on that. I said this last week. I'm going to say this again. Kendall Fuller is not good from off. He is very good from press. You're talking about the Pittsburgh game.

Yeah, I'm talking about Pittsburgh game. I said this in the Pittsburgh game. I'm going to say this again. I've noticed that I don't think he's very good from off. I think he is very good from press. And I think he struggles as a two-invert player when they're dropping both your corners to play two, two-invert. The play that we talked about at the end of half, that's what that is.

It's a two-invert play. He's a two-safety inverted. Late on a midpoint and trail of Bourne, there's a shot downfield. It's incomplete. He would have been over the top of ever. right there. Born as an inside receiver, the outside receiver hooks up.

He's the cover three corner right there, but it's still in his third, Bourne going up the numbers. He's late trailing there. He's behind it. Soft in coverage, he falls down out of his back pedal on a born drop in the middle of the field.

He had a, oh, the DPI on DeShazer Everett, the ball I you caught. I have no idea why Fuller. or stop trailing there. I thought that would have been an opportunity for him to undercut that thing. There was nobody else coming back out into his side of the field. I thought he could have undercut that thing for an interception opportunity.

But he kind of just stops. And then IU gets right in the middle of the field in front of the Chaser, ever. Bad tackle attempt on the touchdown by use check on the keeper, the boot, made a business decision in that situation. A couple positive plays. You know, again, he's good with his hands and pressing when he's up tight. Like the first third and four, he does a great job driving. on a ball and has a pass breakup.

I've had a really good job on the Jordan Reed out route on a third and eight at the end of the half and a pass breakup in that situation. When he's tight, he's good. When he's off, he's struggling a little bit. Kendall Fuller was a C-minus in this game. Jimmy Morland actually played more than I. I thought it was going to be a better grade for him. That's the most surprising grade.

Yeah, I did too. All right. I thought it was going to be a better grade for him, but it was not. Jimmy Morland was a D in this fall game. I didn't think he was good with underneath zone coverage. There's play at the end of the second half where he was allowing a deeper throw. It's a bad throw by Mollins who just sucks and shit the bad. But it's 28 seconds left in the half and Jimmy Mowland's jumping a four-yard whip route.

And they're throwing a 15-yard dig behind me. Like, dude, it's 28 seconds. Just come on. Drop deeper. Broken off by Boren on the sweat penalty that we keep talking about a lot, but can't stick with him in that situation. and slipped inside on a third down and long, the touchdown drive. They completed a third down in, I don't know, 10, something like that. It was up the numbers to IUC on a little sit route.

Right. A sticks route. He just loses leverage outside and lets IUC slip right inside of him right there. You can't have that happen. And I used to like right next to Jordan Reed too. Can't have that happen. So I didn't think Jimmy Moreland was excellent in this game. Also, he's beat on a looky route inside.

that was dropped as well. So I didn't see more than impact in this game in a positive way, really at all. And you gave him a D. He was a D. And that is your secondary. All right, I go one question for you right after this word from one of our sponsors. At times, and you liked Reeves yesterday, how would Landon Collins have played had he three, two, one? All right.

Last question for Chris, and then we're going to wrap it up for the day. The question is this. You graded Cameron Curl, the best grade you've given them all year. You have liked Everett in that spot. You liked Reeves in the way he played. What do you think we would have been seeing from Landing Collins as the defense continued to ascend? I've got to make this assumption that with the entire defense playing better, the secondary playing more consistent,

them marrying coverage to some of their pass rush stuff much, much better throughout the back half of this season. I got to make the assumption that Landon Collins would. have also taken some steps up. And it's funny when you look at Landon early in the year, there were at least three or four games. It was like an F in the first half. And then ended up making adjustments playing a little better in the second half of some of the ball games.

Right. Look, he's an excellent player. So I think he fits in just fine. The only question is if you really thought you had guys curl and Everett that could play strong safety, do you consider trading him? That's why I'm asking the question. That's an off-season question. I'm just curious as to how

you think Landon Collins would have been playing as part of this evening. I think he would have been playing better. I think he would have been playing better. I think it would have been playing more consistent. The other thing I've noticed is Del Rio is really starting to get a good feel for his players and where to play them. No doubt. All right. And that takes some time.

Good job. We will talk on Friday.