The Kevin Sheehan Show - Jayden Daniels Out For Chiefs Game

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

Kevin opened the show with the news that Jayden Daniels will not play Monday night in Kansas City against the Chiefs. Marcus Mariota will start his 3rd game this season. Mariota has never lost at Arrowhead as a starting quarterback. Steve Suter jumped on with his Commanders' "film breakdown" of the Cowboys game. Steven Spector (96.3 The Fan in Kansas City) joined Kevin to talk Chiefs. For all your football betting needs: DCRELOAD at MyBookie for a 50% Deposit Match Want to spruce up your lawn? FastGrowingTrees.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Call them at 86690 Nation or go to windownation.com. Mention my name and they'll come out and give you a free, no pressure, no obligation in-home estimate. Two Steve's on the show with me today. Steve Suter's film breakdown of the Dallas game here in the opening segment. I won't make you wait for that. We'll get started here shortly with Steve Suter. I did record it with him already.

The details are pretty gory, especially when it comes to the defense. So we'll get started with Steve Souter here shortly. Steven Specter will be on with me in the final segment of the show. Stephen worked with us for several years at 980 and then left about a decade or so ago to take the job as the sports program director at Sports Talk 965 the fan in Kansas City. He was always a big Chiefs fan.

He moved to the city he wanted to live in and he's had quite the run as a sports talk program director and a host also in Kansas City. He'll join me to talk chiefs. in the final segment. By the way, the Chiefs are a franchise that Washington has never beaten on the road. They are the only NFL franchise that Washington has never beaten on the road. They are 1 in 10 overall lifetime against the Chiefs.

The one win came in 1983 at RFK. They're 0 and 5 at Arrowhead. The last time they played at Arrowhead was in 2017, and it too was a Monday night game. If you recall, it was a pretty good game. They went back and forth, and the Skins had a chance late in the game. Kirk threw a ball to Josh Doxon in the end zone, and Doxon could not pull it in. That would have given them the lead with under a minute to go. They kicked a field goal instead to tie it, and then Alex Smith drove the chiefs into field goal range.

where Harrison Butker kicked a 43-yard field goal with eight seconds to go to win it. But they've never won at Arrowhead. The first time they ever played at Arrowhead, and they've lost five times in Kansas City. So they are 0 and 5 on the road against the Chiefs. The first time they played at Arrowhead, 1971, it was the old Arrowhead Stadium. It was actually, you know, I think it was called Kansas. Kansas City Municipal Stadium, and then they changed it to Arrowhead, I think, when they moved in to the new stadium. So I'm not even sure it was called Arrowhead when Washington played there in

1971. But I bring it up, and some of you will remember this. It was a significant game during the 1971 season. 71 was the first year of George Allen. The Redskins started off 5 and 0. They were the surprise team in the NFL. They played at Arrowhead, late October, you know, a late afternoon national TV game, Hank Stram, Len Dawson, Otis Taylor, those great chief teams. And it was a great game. Washington lost the game 27 to 20, but worse than the loss was the loss of a player, a key player.

Charlie Taylor broke his leg in that game on a touchdown catch. And they were without Charlie Taylor the rest of the season. It was a big blow. Washington still went to the playoffs. that year as a wild card team. They went nine, four, and one. They played 14 back then, boys and girls, and they lost to the 49ers in the playoffs. But that was their first ever meeting, 1971, October. Charlie Taylor broke his leg and he was having a phenomenal season. And they had the lead in the game and the Chiefs came back and won at 27 to 20. But how about that? Never won at

They've won in every other NFL city. They've never won in Kansas City. The challenge of winning for the first time in Kansas City got harder today because the news broke earlier that Jaden Daniels is out for Monday night. Ian Rappaport from the NFL network had the news first. So Marcus Marietta will get his third start of the season. How long will Jaden miss? I think Monday night's going to be it.

That's my guess. We may learn something different from Dan Quinn tomorrow, but I think the short turnaround from Monday night in Kansas City against an AFC team, by the way, right now the best AFC team, to then a significant game against Seattle and NFC team on a short week leading into that. By the way, the Seahawks, I think I mentioned this already this week. The Seahawks will be coming into that Sunday nighter a week from this coming Sunday night off a bye week. So Washington with a significant net rest disadvantage, I don't know if that played into the decision. I'm guessing that the hamstring, they want to be safer rather than sorrier. That is not a rib injury. That's not a pain threshold injury.

You know, the knee from the Green Bay game and the hamstring from the Dallas game, you got to be careful. can't put him back out there. It could end up causing another injury. But I bet, you know, the short turnaround to the Seattle game, which is a bit more important because it's an NFC game, you know, plays a role in this. I don't know. Maybe if they were playing a much lesser team where they weren't going to be a big underdog and that team was an NFC team. Maybe Jaden goes, but I'm assuming they're doing the right thing. And maybe the schedule as it relates, to the Seattle game has something to do with it. Now, when he gets back, when Jaden gets back, and I, again, I'm guessing that he'll be back

for the Sunday nighter against Seattle, which would be the next game. But there will be a good chance at that point that his top two receivers will be there. Dan Quinn on a Sirius XM radio show yesterday said that he expects both Terry and Ebo Samuel to practice fully this week. So Terry McClain, Debo Samuel, according to Quinn on Sirius XM yesterday, and we'll get more on this tomorrow. Because remember, this is, you know, tomorrow is the normal Wednesday. It's the first practice for the Chiefs game. It's the first media avail for the head coach and the quarterback, and tomorrow it will be Marcus Mariotta.

But because the games on Monday night, we get all of that on Thursday. Let me just say this. I would not pencil in both receivers for the Monday night game. I think both receivers, unless they were to play and get injured against Kansas City, I think both receivers will be back for the Seattle game. But I would not pencil in both Terry and Debo for Monday night. Not yet anyway. Let's see what Quinn says.

Even if they're fully practicing all week. week long. Terry's been out for a while now. I'm not convinced that both of them will be in the lineup. I hope they are. That would be a much better situation for Marcus Mariotta. You know, back to Jaden for a moment and the news that broke today, you know, it's weird that this news, and I think I mentioned yesterday, we won't hear anything until Thursday unless Schaefter or Rappaport or one of the national guys get the information first. And sure enough, Rappaport got it and broke the news. I don't know why that news is out.

I liked what they did leading into the Raiders game, the Falcons game, the Chargers game, making their opponent prepare for both players. You know, put me in the camp of believing that even though the offense doesn't change drastically, not even, you know, it's more subtle, I think, than anything else with Marioita in the lineup. There's still, I think, a benefit to making a team prepare for two different talents, for sure. And I also think that the subtle differences between Marioada and Jaden in terms of the attack would be this. I think they are, there will be much more.

I think we've even seen this when Mario da's played. Even more of a dual threat run attack team with the quarterback when Marioada is in there. And I think that that is true in part, not because Jaden isn't every bit the runner that Marioita is. I mean, he's a better runner. He's a more exciting, more lethal, more threatening runner, you know, without the brace anyway. But I think, you know, I do think that Mario is better at running zone reads.

I think he's really good at that. But I think the key is here that Mario D. His success is dependent upon his dual threat ability and a coach calling a game utilizing his dual threat ability. Whereas Jaden, you know, it's great to have it. It threatens the defense even more, but he doesn't have to have it. Mario D's not the passer Jaden is. He's not the pocket passer that Jaden is.

I do love the idea on Monday night of just going for it. Having Mario to get 15 carries on designed, on option runs, on scrambles, I think they're going to certainly have to get the ball out quickly with Marioita in the passing game. But I think, you know, it sets up as a possible good game for the running backs because I think Marioo will be running a ton and I think that that will be part of the plan. I'm looking forward to seeing that because I think with Jaden in the brace,

they have definitely kind of held back. They've run some stuff, some option stuff, but I think they've held back a little bit on that stuff. If you recall, right when Marioita got in the game, it was Zone Read, you know, zone read two times in like five or six plays. Yeah. But look, you know, it's not like it's a massive advantage gained by holding back the information because you're not going from Jaden Daniels to Joe Flacco.

You know, you're going from Jaden to somebody who plays pretty similar to him. But I don't know how the news got out. Always interesting when those guys get it before anybody else does or before the team even has a chance to announce it themselves. But so be it. Mario-Oto Monday night in Kansas City. Mario-Ota, by the way, has started two games in his career against the Chiefs. You know, being in the AFC all those years with Tennessee and then even with Vegas, only twice has he suited up as the starter against the Kansas City Chiefs.

He was on a Raider team where he wasn't the starting quarterback that faced the Chiefs twice in one season. he is 2-0 in his two starts against the Chiefs, both of those games at Arrowhead. 2016 with the Titans, he threw for 241 yards in a 19-17 win, and then this game was something else. The playoffs following the 2017 season, January of 2018, Tennessee's down 21 to 3 at halftime at Arrowhead. head against Alex Smith's Kansas City team. Mahomes, that was the year. Mahomes didn't play. Alex Smith played. And they roared back the Titans did to win the game 22 to 21. And that was a game

that was notable for Marcus Mariota throwing a touchdown pass to himself. He had a ball, bat it up in the air, caught it, and ran into the end zone for a key second half touchdown. Derek Henry was huge in that game in the second half, and the Titans won at 22 to 21. They lost the following week in the divisional round in Foxborough against the Patriots. That playoff game, by the way, was the last game for Alex Smith in Kansas City. He got traded about 20 days later here, and then Mahomes took over in Kansas City, and the rest is history, as they say. Real quickly, before we get to Steve, if you didn't know, the Wizards open up their NBA season tonight. They play the Bucks on the road.

The games last night, they had a double header on NBC. It was actually pretty cool to have NBC back into the NBA and to have NBC back into the NBA, and to have John Tess's theme music kicking off the NBA season. If you haven't seen the open to the first game of the year last night between Oklahoma City and Houston, and you're an NBA fan and you like the nostalgia of the NBA in the 90s, it was a phenomenal open, so well-produced. But in that game, at the end of the first overtime, Kevin Durant called a timeout

that they didn't have, that Houston didn't have. That's where Kevin Durant is now. He's playing with the Rockets. Chris Weber moment, and they didn't call him for it. They didn't tee him up. He should have been teed up, and they should have lost the game. I mean, they would have still had to make the free throw, but you would have gotten SGA to step to the free throw line for one free throw attempt with one second to go to give them the lead. They didn't call it. The game went to a second overtime, and OKC won there. For the Wizards, look, it's the beginning of what will be another long

season in the standings, for sure. I'm looking forward to watching the young guys, especially the guy they drafted number six overall, Trey Johnson, the guard from Texas. I was a big fan going into the draft in June and advocated for the Wizards to take him if he were there at number six. I'm looking forward to seeing him play this year, all the other young guys too. It is, you know, it's that rebuild mode, the over-underun wins for them, 20 and a half. They want to finish with one of the eight worst records in the NBA, or they're going to lose their first round pick to the Knicks. I don't think there's much threat of them not finishing in the bottom eight. But at some point, some of these young players, if they are the right players, they're going to blossom in front

of us and maybe be more competitive than we think. I would certainly think worst case, we're two years away from a competitive team. Maybe it happens next year. We'll see. All right, let's get to Steve Souter in his film breakdown. For those of you who don't know yet, and Steve's been doing this since week two against Green Bay, Steve Souter is one of the greatest punt returners in the history of college football, played for Ralph's teams at Maryland, Ralph Regents' teams at Maryland in the early 2000s. He joins Johnny Holliday as the Maryland football broadcast team on the Maryland Football Radio Network.

He's an excellent analyst, and he's been doing the Cooley role breaking down film of these games. Now, let me just give you a heads up. Steve did call me and say, it's going to be tough to do it this week because Maryland had a game at UCLA. They went out there Thursday. he got back. He has another job. He's got a real job. And this takes a lot of time. It is an investment of hours to get this thing done. And I told him, I said, don't worry about it. If you can't do it this week, no worries. I can't tell him he's got to do it. But he likes doing it. He enjoys doing it. And then he texted me last night. He said, I think I'm going to have it done. I think I can get it done for you. and so I am very appreciative.

He is the absolute best, and he joins me right now. What time did you get back from L.A.? I mean, I'm assuming the game ended late, and you came back sometime on Sunday? Touched home 8.30 Sunday morning, I walked in my door. So you took the red eye back? Yep. Well, no, you fly with the team, right?

Yes, correct. So you got back, you had a busy week. Steve's got a real job. This is not his job. And he warned me early in the week. This is going to be a tough week. I might not be able to do it. But guess who we could turn to in the fourth quarter with the game on the line?

After it looked like we were done, here comes Steve Souter. He called me last night, said, I think I'm going to have it done. if you still want me to do it. And I said, of course, I want you to do it. He's been working all day. So let's get started. Steve Souter's film breakdown here on the show. We do kind of an overview of the game against the Cowboys.

How he thought Jaden played before he got hurt, how Marcus Mariotta did when he came in, and then he'll give us his top three and bottom three graded players on offense and defense. And I think I just told you because you weren't paying attention. You've been busy inside the All-22 for the last few hours. But Jaden was ruled out already for the game on Monday night against the Chiefs with the hamstring. Yeah, gotcha. You have news.

New news to me. But tell everybody what you said when I told you about the play that was his last play of the game. Yeah, I even checked a buddy when he walked out. I've never seen a hamstring injury occur like that, just a weird way to tweak a hammie getting tackled and not really, from what it looked like, stretching or putting any strain on the hamstring. Obviously, I'm not in his body, I don't know what happened,

but maybe it got tweaked earlier than that on one of his scrambles. Yeah. But it just seemed odd that a hamstring injury would occur there on that tackle. Yeah. Quinn mentioned that it may not have been that play. And the play before it was that, you know, escape, scramble, extend, and throw to Chris Moore on third and 10. It could have been that play. It could have been the play in which he, on third and two, got to the sideline, reached the ball out.

But yeah, that was a weird play to get sacked like that. Free runner, that's not typically how you hurt a hamstring. That's for sure. Correct. Yeah. Well, you know what's not shocking is that it's just the odds. other leg. When you're running with a brace and you're running with a tweak knee on one side of your body, heaver's ankle all the way up on one side, you're compensating with the other side and

you don't know it. So it's subconscious. So it makes sense that an injury would happen to his other leg. You don't want to see it, but I can comprehend it because that's what happened. Interesting. Because a lot of times when you're compromised in one area, you try to make up for it and another and that puts risk into that area. Yeah. Okay. All right, let's get started. thoughts on them getting trounced in Dallas, 44 to 22? Well, I would say my first thought is, and not a shocker here, but they're just beat up. Commanders are banged up on both sides of the ball,

and it's wearing them down. And what doing this all 22 has done for me and breaking down these games is really realizing how a 52-man roster, just not a lot of players. 53, yeah. Yeah, sorry, 53. You get in the second and third string, and you just see talent drop off. And there's not enough depth that you can keep at every position and anticipate where the injuries are going to go.

So it's not like college, you got an 11 guys on a roster that you can comb through. Now there's depth issues there too. But this is just kind of a glaring opening, eye over experience for me, just to see when you got guys that go down, you know, who's coming in, who's filling in. and watching is going through what appears like 10 defensive linemen here in the game that I'm going through. So that's just a lot of guys you got to go through. You know what? I didn't tell you this before we started Armstrong Tours A-CL he's done for the year. Stop it.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, dude, you guys are toast. I'm sorry to laugh about it. Yeah, because he's been your favorite player. He and Kinlau have been your best player. Yeah. Yeah. He has been the best player on defense all season, and now, man, I didn't know that.

I saw him get hurt. I saw him tweak the knee, but I did not know it was an ACL. That is very unfortunate. So goodness. All right, well, I'll take that information in the county. Yeah, that's a big blow. So offensively, I'll just go back. Offensively banged up too, right out of the perimeter, no shock here.

You got nobody to get beat man coverage. If you heard the broadcast, as you were listening to it, they are commented how Dallas runs zone, zone, zone, and now they're just going to put a bunch of man. well, I said, well, that's not obvious. Or that's obvious to me. You and I talked about, he asked me how to defend Washington in offense. I said, I'd play man coverage on them on the outside

so they could show they had somebody that could beat it. And they don't, especially with Debo going out. So they came out, Dallas did, man coverage, like you heard on the broadcast, locking down the outside. Now, there were some opportunities, though, for people that did get open. Lane shockingly got open a couple of times in man coverage. Jaden missed him, didn't see the read or threw a bad, ball. So there were some opportunities, but then Dallas throughout the game went back to their

zone coverage because they had the lead. They didn't have to worry about giving up a big chunk play on a man coverage where somebody gets beat or fall out. So that just seemed like a coaching strategy to me. Once they took the lead, they went back to what they were comfortable doing, playing zone the rest of the game, and Washington couldn't do anything with it because it couldn't establish a run like the use they had been doing earlier in the season. They had to rely on passing. And Jaden will get into specifics,

but Jaden probably had his worst game that I've watched and it goes from not executing on just throws. He was inaccurate most of the game.

And then I think he's getting gun-shy in the pocket because of who's outside with him and I don't think he trusts that they're going to get open.

So he might look one time at one read and then he's right, now I'm taking off. So hopefully this break that he gets to get healthy will also time up with Terry and Debo and Noah coming back and he'll have all his tools

and that he doesn't have to have, he can re-channel or excuse me, like reprogram his mind that I got guys that get open, these players are going to work. I can stay in the pocket a little longer, but currently that's not the case. And offensively for the run game, I don't know why they couldn't get it going either. I will say this. Sam, Cosme, is an upgrade from Wiley

from this first game. He played you play pretty well. So that's encouraging moving forward. I think your line looks really good. Now, what are we, I don't even know what week. You're entering the season here, but. Yeah, you're entering week eight.

And you finally got a, what looks like a fresh line now, I do want to ask you, too, because I didn't, I'm not paying attention like we talked about, but I did see Wiley come in in the fourth quarter. I don't know if Cosme got hurt or they just knew the game was out of reach. I think that's,

I think that's what it was. Yeah, There was no information on Cosmi being hurt, none. All right, good. All right, so that's good news. Then defensively, more of the same struggles. Can't cover a man coverage. These are two of the best receivers against man coverage in the game.

So Latimore is going to struggle for sure. Sandusville is going to struggle for sure. They can't cover C.D. Lam and Pickens, they'll just, they just can't do it. But there was a lot of man coverage that was called from Washington. They tried to run their inverted cover to one time, and that's the time Debo beat them deep, streak right now. the middle of the C.D. LAM. Yeah, exactly. That was that was inverted cover two, right? Yep, that was the inverted cover two. So that's why Lattimore was all the way deep. He was the second

safety in that inverted cover two. But they've been putting this on tape Washington has all year. And I don't think, I mean, I would go back and look at the plays, but the success rate for them running this inverted cover two is very low. Teams have been completing passes on it all year. And Cowboys had five weeks of film to see it. I don't know if that was, wasn't an adlet with Cedeland because he sees Sanders still bail right in front of him. He knows it's an inverted cover too and he might have just took off for that reason.

They said when we get this coverage, we're going deep right here. We're going to put these safeties in the bind and it worked. So after that, they never ran it again. I got to tell you this right now because yesterday I said on the show because I looked at that play over and over again and I said this is their inverted cover two. And then

you know, you see Wagner dropping into that you know cover two, you know, whole area. First of all, it seemed to me like Savage was the one that was a little bit confused, but I'll come back to that in a moment. But I actually said, I don't know that C.D. Lamb was even supposed to run that route. Somebody sent me a tweet of Brian Schottenheimer after the game apparently told the Dallas media, yeah, that was not the play. CD improvised. So you nailed it. See, yeah, I don't know any of that, but I could just recede on film that that would be a clear example of why they would do that ad lib. If I saw this on tape, this would be something that Dak and I probably would have talked about too.

Hey, man, we get this Denver covered, too, and it's the right formation. I'm gone because I'm beaten. So Savage isn't confused. I see what you're saying. I'm glad you just pulled the play up. He's not responsible for the deeds. It's covered too. You're just going to have two safety.

So it's Latimore and it's Kwan Martin. Okay. the safeties. Yep. So it's inverted, but it's still just basic cover, too. Right. So there, Savage is coming down, working the hole. Wagner's getting a little deep, like, kind of like two Mike, or excuse me, the Tampa

2, but it's like, you know, it's an abbreviation of it. But 100%, when he throws his hands up here, I think he reads this two safety split. He knows I'm good. Like, I'm gone. Let's do this. Dax sees it, shucks it up, a little underthrone ball. And then Lattermore's play on the ball. ball's terrible.

Well, he and Kwan Martin did the thing they do every one of my callers called in and said they're seven for seven on colliding this year. That's true. It's amazing. This is a bad coverage. They're not getting picked. This is a dough cover. Yeah.

Pump in each other. The other part of that, too, right, is no pass rush. Yeah. Well, you're not going to get it now. And you're not going to get it. So your best pass rush for now to me is Jacob Martin. Now that you're not going to have Armstrong, this game, especially he was. was a lot of effort from Martin.

If I'm transitioned to that, he was really good for me on film, and it was mainly effort. And it was clear that he knew somebody needs to step up on the D-line. Armstrong's out now. We got injuries. Somebody's got to provide pass for others in Armstrong. So shout out to Jacob Martin. I thought he played really well despite all the points getting put up on the board. But he was a standout for me on defense, more so than he had been in the other weeks.

So good there. But to get back to it, yeah, so they stopped running this invert coverage due after they got burnt here. And then it was basically man coverage the rest of the way. And they just don't have the guys that can hang with Dallas on the perimeter. And I think they're running man coverage just because they're trying to find a pass rush and they're going to bring extra guys. So even that was disappointing too. When they would bring pressure, so they would get single blocks, right?

So you bring an extra guy and then you hope your pains and kinlaws don't get double teamed. And everybody's got a one-on-one matchup. well, they weren't winning any of those one-on-one matchups for the most part. So bringing pressure didn't really increase the timing of Dak Prescott at all. So the guys get to still run their routes with their typical timing, and it's hard to cover these types of receivers for that longer duration. So kind of the perfect storm that you just don't have the bodies on defense. And I'm going to, I know I'm a broken record here.

If I get man coverage, I'm looking for Latimore and Sandler still, and every team is doing it, nobody. There's no reason not to. If they bring motion, if you get them, if you're watching the game and the broadcast next week or, you know, the following week, just pay attention to motion from the offense standpoint. And if one of Washington's guys are following them, because if they are, then the QB knows it's man coverage and then he's going to, chances are that ball is going to Sanders

or Lattimore. I mean, you'd be shocked at the percentage of that. I see it every time. Once I'm watching the all 2020, and I see a play go, and I see man coverage and I see the motion, I'm like, oh, they know it's man coverage. Here comes the ball. Laddimore. Here comes the ball fans still, and they just can't step up to the challenge. So I don't see how you're going to fix it, honestly.

Lattimore doesn't look like he has any type of burst or break towards the football. He's not confident. He's not even – if I was Lattimore at this point, I'd be gambling. I'd be jumping routes. I'd be trying to guess because my standard technique isn't working. I don't cover anybody. They're always open, so why not take a shot? I'm going to guess you're running out here.

I'm going to guess you're running a post here. to try to help myself out, because all as I am is just getting picked on. And if I am in phase, I got my hands are just glued to the receiver. He can't keep his hands off to anybody. So he's going to get called for P.I. Even if he gets a chance to break up the path. So you got problems in the secondary. For sure, we've talked about it all year.

It's not getting better. I don't mean maybe what was Will Harris's injuries? He coming back at the point? No, he's done for the year. He's done too. Yeah, man, this is this is a season of injuries. for Washington for sure, and I don't think you got the bodies to overcome it. I actually made an observation, and maybe I was wrong as it related to Latimore.

I think the throw to pickings at the end of the first half on that ridiculous end of first half drive that went 30 seconds and four plays. I don't know that a throw could have been more perfect than that, and I thought the coverage was actually pretty good. 100% no don't disagree with that and I didn't even knock him that much for that that play like a quarter of the penalty I would give him a normal for that reason yet that's a perfect ball can't be defended I took that into consideration for sure that that that deck had a couple of those that were just money passes and a good ball beats good defense or great ball beats good

defense almost all the time so what did you think about the PI call early early in the game Was that? You're just, I know, that was kind of ticky-tacky. If he doesn't put his hands up and grab pickets in the wrist or play with his wrist, then I could see you getting away with it and not being PI. But it's that, it's that gray area of face guarding where that they call that almost all the time. And I get it. I get what I called it.

If they didn't call it, Dallas would be upset and you can make an argument, it's the right call to not throw it. But for throwing it, you can make the argument to right call throw it too. Right. So he's just got to be ready. I mean, every game, they're going to come at him. He knows it. I feel bad for him now at this point.

He's on an island. They're going to come at him. The defensive passers can't help him out. So he's not going to get bailed out. If he's in coverage for more than two seconds, this guy's going to get open. You know, I think that's an interesting, you know, solution. I mean, like, just, if you're going to go down anyway, go down trying to jump it, trying to be aggressive, and maybe you'll end up with one or two.

big plays in the game. Absolutely. And I mean, I don't know what his study habits are for film. And maybe he does study a lot of film. Good, but maybe he doesn't. But, again, I need to figure something out if I'm not anymore. So I would be all in the film room to see if I can get any type of advantage. Can I pick a part of formation?

If I know, oh, wait, I saw this in week three, this route's coming. I'm jumping in. I'm going to trust my film study. Something's got to change. Or it's just going to be a steady doses for, you know, nine more weeks. He's just going to get picked on N. Sandor still. He can't cover anybody in man coverage either. Look, even his, he had a pass breakup, right?

Santer still did early on. Right. Yeah, so go to 625, right? That's first quarter, 625. Yep. Got it. He's cooked. This is a touchdown on him if Dak looks at him off the line of scrimm.

CD Lamb gives him a shake, and it's a TV. So you're not taking it. taking me to the pass break up here. No, I am. Oh, you are. Oh, sorry. 625 first quarter. Got it. First quarter, 625. Yep. So watch Sanchezville off the line of scrimmage.

C.D. just loses him. He doesn't even get a hand on him. If Dak hits him right on that slant, it's C.D. Lamb versus Savage in space. And my money is on land. Oh, my God. He gets beat so badly. So bad. The past breakup is just

it's because Prescott got pressured for one of the only times of the day. Right. So he gets up, does his like incomplete, look at me, I've made this big play, but why didn't Prescott throw it, why didn't Prescott throw it to CD Lamb? So it's

third and three, right? So it's third and three. Yeah. And he he thinks he's going to give man coverage up top. See the off coverage? Yeah. So he thinks he thinks he has a little quick out route here to pick it. going to pick up the first down, but Savage drops back, and this turns into cover two. So his pre-snap Reed thinks he's got manned coverage on top, I'm just going to take this

quick out to pick-in, easy money. Right. But it turns into cover two so Amos can jump it. He doesn't care about getting beat deep. Right. So a trick, Prescott. So now, all right, so he gets tricked on his postnap, but he doesn't throw into it, so that's a good veteran move.

Prescott doesn't throw into a cover two corner. But his eyes didn't, I don't know why he didn't come back to lay him right there, but it's easy slant for a house call. Oh, my God. At least as a 20-yard game. This is so good because Sanra still got credit from, you know, I think Brady

may be on this play. And during the game and I, you know, I even mentioned him, I said, you know, Sanmer still had that pass breakup on lamb, which was a nice play. But my God, people, he gets beat

so badly that It's six if Prescott doesn't, as Steve just said, if he doesn't get tricked, thinking it's manned coverage on third and three to take the easy pitch and catch to Pickens at the top, on the right side. Yeah, he gets beat badly. And just so everybody understands, this is Santer still in the slot, all right? Because he's covering the slot receiver, which ends up being lamb after a little bit of motion. You know, he played on the outside last year, Steve, and played well.

Yep. But they drafted him to play on the inside because they thought that's what he would be. I can get that a little bit because he's feisty. I get it. He has like a nickel corner makeup. He'll be in the box and he's not afraid to get his head, head dirty. He'll go in there and mess around in the box. So I get that aspect, but he's just too vulnerable in coverage.

And I was going to ask you that. And I covered him in Michigan a little bit. I can't even recall, right? But I assumed he was an outside boundary or a field corner in college. And I was curious of why they moved him in here. Well, they moved. When he got drafted, everybody projected him as a nickel corner as an inside corner. I think partly because of his size, right?

And then, by the way, Sabin called him in that draft, the best pound-for-pound football player in that draft. Yeah, I remember you telling me that. He loved Sandra still. So last year they had injuries, and so he went to the outside, and Noah I ended up being their primary nickel corner all season. Sandra still had a great year playing on the outside. But they drafted Amos, and Amos is clearly an outside corner, or at least that's what they think. Latimore they have on the outside, so they thought, oh, we get to move, Mikey, you know, inside because that's what we drafted him to do anyway, and he's struggling clearly.

Yeah, he is struggling. He has probably been in my bottom three every game that I've done. Would it matter if he were on the outside? I don't know. At this point, I'm convinced he can't cover. So outside or inside, now I would say it's probably easier to cover man coverage on the outside versus the nickel. You don't have as much of a two-way go.

The nickel guy's got to worry about outside release, inside release. if you can probably eliminate some routes when you're on the outside as a corner. I mean, at this point, what is the problem with trying it out? I don't care if you put Latimer in at the nickel. Maybe that works better. Do something, but this ain't working, for sure.

How good of a route runner is CD Lamb? Oh, it's so, he's just so crisp. It's that little shake that's so, the shake is so effective at the top of his routes is because it doesn't slow him down. He doesn't... He doesn't go up there and think about it. That's the thing.

He just, who-boop, got you. Woo-woo, got you. He's in that. He didn't even touch him. He's a yard from him, and he doesn't even get a hand on him. And he tries to grab him, and he misses him,

because he got shook so bad. He's got it. I bet he's a very good basketball player. Yeah, that looks like getting open against a defender, you know, making a backdoor cut or something, that type of thing. Exactly. Totally agree.

All right. All right. What else before we get to Jaden and even Marioita if you want to? Let's see. If we'll stay on the defensive side of the ball, let's see. Pain had his best game, but he still frustrates me. It is not effort consistent. Other guys are given better effort on a consistent basis.

When he decided to play, he made some plays, certainly. He flashed on the screen. I don't really love his two PVUs, even though he got him. He is not providing any effort trying to get the DAC. He's content with getting double-teamed on this first PBU, and he just happens to put his paw up and gets knocked down. So he gets points for that. I'm sure other people grade him high for that, too.

But I don't love the effort on the play. He just gets lucky that they throw the ball over his head, and he used to bat it down. So I, watching the game in the all 22, two, I would be, my starting four now would be Jacob Martin and Kinlaw, for sure. My outside end, and now we don't, we lost Armstrong. Shoot, man. But my point was going to be, I think you should rotate pain more from the starters.

Don't have him set in that starting lineup. I'd throw guys in every two, three plays at that detackle position. Because if it's a stamina thing, which maybe it is, and that's why, He doesn't give effort every play, then I keep him as fresh as possible. I'd let him run two plays and bring him out for two plays, put him back in for two plays. Because if you can get him giving effort every play, then you're a much better position because he gets blocked too easy on single one-on-one blocks, in my opinion. You've got to be a disruptor at detackle.

And if you put every cut up against Kinlaw on him, it's not, it's a no contest, just off effort. So they got to make a switch there, in my opinion. one of the things I'm learning about you. I've already learned it. You, you want just supreme effort, high motor, high urgency competitors. And, you know, you want the dude that's diving on the floor for every loose ball. And you recognize when, when guys take plays off. And so you're, you're harsh on that. By the way, coaches typically are, too. You know, I think that, I was going to throw this out to you because they have a major issue now at defensive end. They have lost Armstrong, Wise, John Baptiste.

You know, they're two starters at the beginning of the season. They're top backup at defensive end. They did not sign Von Miller to be a 40, 45-stap-a-game guy. And they didn't sign President Smith to be that. Now, let me just. Oh, he's got to go. Let me tell you that last year they had some issues with setting the end. edge and just like we saw in the Chicago game on Monday night.

And you know what they did? They moved Duran out there occasionally. They moved pain to D-end because he was the best, he was by far and away a better edge setter than anybody they had in a team. Kinlaw also during his career has played as an end. Do you think either one of those two things would make sense to you? Man, make sense is probably, you can't make sense of it right now. So you can't even answer that question logically.

You're going to have to do what you have to do. But I would take, like again, what do you got to lose at this point? You're so beat up on the front line. I would try it because you've got to get Preston Smith off the field. I'm sorry, he gets handled one-on-one blocking tight ends and just move them where he wants. I watch him get sealed by receivers on those outside. and doesn't even get off the block after the receiver engages with them.

You can't have that if you're that big and need to be in the trenches. He's got to get off the field, in my opinion, but I don't know who else you're going to put in there. You mentioned it. Von Miller's not giving you much for 45, 60 plays. It's not going to happen at this stage in his career. They came out, and this rush rate of me too,

the start of the third quarter, or their first, excuse me, they didn't get the ball, right? Their first possession on defense. On defense, yeah. Yeah. You know, on defense, they have Preston Smith out there starting. Well, Armstrong's gone at that point. Armstrong's gone. Yeah, but it's escaping me who should have been there, but it was shocking.

I was like, why is he starting? Oh, wait, actually it was pain. Like, pain wasn't in. That's what it was. Pain wasn't in on the first series coming out of halftime. Why? Are you tired already? It's half time. You should be the guy to start the third quarter on the first series, and he's on the bench. That doesn't make any sense to me. I'm going to the first play on defense in the third quarter. I've got to go to the end zone so I can see it. Well, I can look at the who's on there.

Newton, Sheldon Day, number 98, Ken Law, Preston Smith. Payne's not on the field in the first play. And by the way, they give up eight yards on the ground. What's happening? Why is that your starting defense? defensive line to come out a half time if everybody should be fresh. So you got a problem there. I mean, bottom line is you got an issue there.

I know Payne Mason plays, yes, the safety is cool, identifies the screen. He's good at that. I have a philosophy on why he's good identifying screens because he's usually the last one off the ball. I was going to say he's the one lagging behind. He's sitting back and just watching everything. Yeah. Do you know that he, do you know that?

And they'll make a play. It'll make it. Do you know that he was, let me just see, somebody tweeted out the PFF grades on defense, because he was the highest rated defensive player in the game by far, according to PFF. Yeah, he had. In the game? In the game, oh, for Washington. Let me see if Dallas had any, if Dallas put out there, I don't know what Dallas's were.

But Payne was the highest graded player in the game for Washington, defense or defense. It's just interesting because I think... So I will say he is my highest rated player on defense this game. Oh, he was. Okay. Yeah, he is, but it's still frustrating to watch the other 38 plays, or let's say he played 38 plays, the other 18 plays where he's not giving any effort. Right.

And I'm not digging him. It wasn't egregious like the Falcon game where I was like, I would cut this guy. but it's still when you're comparing it to the previous play where you just make a play then why are you why are you accepting being blocked here on the next play?

That stuff just frustrates me when somebody and I'll beat a dead horse here like Kinloh he doesn't accept being blocked you can tell it he's mad when somebody's blocking him he wants to go off the block

that's not the same energy you see from all the other players so he's not in for the first two plays and then he comes in on the third play along with Eddie Goldman. Yeah, so, I mean, maybe I'm just trying it out, shaking it up, which is I'm cool with you. You could give me that response, and I'd be cool with it.

We were just trying it out, see if these two work. All right, cool. Then let's see what happens. They got to try a lot of things, don't they? Yeah. I mean, what's the hope? What's the hope defensively? Well, I don't see one.

I don't see one. I'm sorry to be negative, but you're not going to improve in the secondary because you're knocking in Harris, and he didn't play well in the Packer game that did anyway. So I don't see how your secondary improves, and your pass rush is only getting worse. And those two things complement each other, and if one's getting worse,

and the other one's already bad, they're both going to get worse. How did 58 play? How did Jordan McGee play? He's an athlete. He's blacked. I didn't mind him. Yeah, I didn't mind him at all.

Played aggressive. He had one negative. So he has one negative play for me, and I can take you to it, I think. It's all right. I'm just trying to come up with, like, so he blows coverage on one-man coverage. He misses his assignment. He's got the tight end. He leaves him. He thinks he's got the running back.

So Wagner and him are going to the running back. He should have the tight end. Jack doesn't see it, so you don't see it on film or you don't see on the broadcast, so he gets away with it. But that was only missed Simon. Other than that, I thought he played hard. And I did towards the fourth quarter, I said, this guy has shown me enough. This is in my head.

I'm talking to myself rather than grading it. I'm saying this guy showed me enough that he could give Wagner or Louvo a blow every now, man. Like, just a couple plays here and there. He doesn't have to start a whole series. Right. But I think he's showing up that he can play a couple of plays. So Wagner's out of field at his age for every snap and Louvo. Give him a breather so they're a little bit more effective later in the game.

All right. When Jacob Martin was right behind, Theron Payne for me, he showed the most effort on the field consistently of anybody this week. And like go to 944, fourth quarter. 944 fourth quarter. I'll just give an example. Oh, yep. Hold on, I'm almost there.

944. I should be able to. This will highlight your boy, too, that you just, that you just mentioned. So this is McGee and Martin. But Martin's up top of his screen, and he's going to get sealed. but Von Miller is getting sealed by one guy.

Preston Smith, when he running these tosses, is getting sealed by one guy. And Jacob Martin is about to get sealed, but he's fighting through it, and he's going to take on two. And he's taking on two, right? This is, so he's getting sealed, yeah, but he's not. This is effort. He doesn't want to get blocked on this. He's fighting through a double team when the other two guys I mentioned would just pack it in, and they would just be accepting the seal.

and then your boy McGee, this is a good scrape by a livebacker, and he's going underneath the second level, and he comes out and makes a tackle. That's effort, but that's because of Jacob Martin right there, who refused to be blocked, takes on two, and he knows, I've got to keep pushing this as far as I can, and take these two as long as I can, so my other backup players will show up, and they do. There's a coach on the sideline that just points to Martin, like, good job. I don't know if you saw that.

I didn't see that. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, he's clearly an effort guy, effort. All right, let's, what I was going to say is, is an answer, we talked about this after the Charger game, or maybe the Atlanta game, like is

you could go totally, you know, cover to play it deep, keep everything in front of you, try to tackle, then come up with something in the red zone, or hope they self-destruct on a longer drive. Or you could say, we're playing man coverage, we are run blitzing on the way to the quarterback if he's throwing,

and we're sending five or six on every play. And my initial answer to you when we talked about that was, I think they need to try to bend and don't break because they're going to give up too many big plays because they couldn't communicate in the secondary and get coverage is correct. They have corrected that in the last two games, more so than they have.

So there's been less blown coverages. Okay. So if that is the case, I might be more inclined to start bringing pressure an extra man because they're going to have

to figure something out to try to, you can't give them all day to throw in zone and your four-man rush isn't going to be that great moving forward. You're going to have to bring pressure.

But what I don't see is creative pressure. Don't bring the standard stuff. You've got to have some creative stuff too to shake people up. What happens on defense for Washington's offense a lot the last couple weeks is they get caught and they have to throw hot. They get guys, they identify of Mike, it doesn't matter who they call, but they don't identify the right guy,

and then they end up getting forced to throw hot so they have a free rusher. You don't see that with Washington's defense. They don't scheme up pre-snap to where they confuse the defense and get a free rusher coming. You don't see their opponent have to throw hot a lot. Right. So they get picked up, and then now you're stuck. Now you got man coverage. You bring an extra guy, and they're all picked up.

So now your secondary is vulnerable even more. So they've got to dial out some creative stuff. You've got to try to figure out, put three on the line. There's several ways you can try this guy's blitz is. So you're going to have to come up with that kind of stuff. Because defensively, you're going to be in trouble the rest of the season. All right. Let's get to the quarterbacks.

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I did want to mention that after the news about... Jaden Daniels. The point spread shot up another two points. So it was already factored in to a certain degree that it was more likely than not that Jaden was going to miss the game because the line jumped from five and a half to ten and a half after he got injured. But when the news broke today that he was definitely out, the line went from ten and a half to twelve and a half. Washington's a twelve and a half point underdog Monday night against the chiefs at my bookie right now. If you're betting on sports and you're not a customer of my bookie, here's a reason to consider becoming one. They're offering something that most sports

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weren't on display in the game really much at all and from the throwing standpoint specifically so we had some throws he should have hit easy NFL throws that a quarterback's got to make and he wasn't making them first one was a yeah eight yard hits the more on the sideline that's got to be pitch and catch he throws it outside and they can't come off the ball two three plays later he's got Ertz wide open over the middle of field and he air bales it over his head. Right. Can't make that mistake. Then made some mental mistakes.

Go to 257. Which quarter? 27. I want to say this is second quarter. We'll double check. Try 257 second quarter. It's 257 first quarter. Sorry, yep, you're right.

257 first quarter. Yeah. So this ball has to go to Earth. He reads this wrong. Earth's is wide. open. It's a 20-yard gain, but he reads this and he sends it to, you know, Rob. They're chosen, yeah. Brady mentioned this on the broadcast, too. He mentioned this specific play.

Oh, did he? Okay. Yeah. I mean, Burt is wide open. Instead, he picks chosen where the defenders are following him. So, mistake there, right? I got to chalk you up for there. Go to 1227 second quarter. All right. This is another big down-and-distance. Yep. And he's got Lane wide open here. He's got to take this.

I don't know why he doesn't take this. But again, this could come down to him not having confidence these guys, but he's looking at him and he's open. I mean, this is an over-rout, and Lane is, I mean, that's a big game. Yeah. And he's got a solid pocket. There's nobody threatening him from a pressure standpoint. what he doesn't like about this route, I don't know, but he doesn't like it, and he pulls it down,

and I think that's definitely run too early. You call this play. This is an override. They want cover three, or they want man coverage in this round? Because they want this Rob Moore that's down to the bottom of your screen. They want him to clear out. If this is cover three or man, he's going to clear this out. Chris Moore, yeah.

Yeah, sorry. That's all right. Chris Moore, and then, and Lane is going to come open. Yeah. Well, they got it. Yeah, they did. Like, they got it, and he doesn't pull the trigger on that. And the protection's great.

Protection is great. And then he has another bad ball to lane on a pretty good route right before they turn the ball over on down. And go to that play. What is that, that fourth and five? Yeah, where is that? Is it that that fourth and five? The fourth and five is a 1059 second quarter.

It's the one that he ends up going to Ertz on. Oh, yeah. so hard. Sorry, sorry. It's the third down prior to that. Oh, third down prior to that. Okay, yep, got it. Yeah. Like, this is a bad ball to lane. You got to hit this. Yeah. Yeah. This is another bad ball.

I had the one, the high one to Ertz and this one is the miss. You also had a couple of misreads in there. Yeah. I see it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Now, but what I love by this play, though, I love McNichols. I've been a fan of him early and he just keeps growing on me. he has to scan this past protection and then he has to take on Fowler to the D-N you don't usually see this but he comes over and just stones him I just physical like willing to put see that guy is willing to put his body online for the protection.

Wow what a great point yeah what a great pass for him. He's got to scan across so the protection leads into the right he's on Jada to the left he's got to scan all the way over he knows I got Fowler did and he's got to He bows up and he puts a good stick on him to give Jaden time to complete this pass that he doesn't complete. I'm going to guess that. I'm going to guess Mick Nichols is number one on your offensive top three. Let me see. Yep, good guess.

And it's because of plays like this, man. It's not easy pad pickups when he's doing it. You got to give him credit for it. And I do every time. And then he had that really awesome run where he broke your tackles and almost scored. Yeah. Incredible. Jaden, the accuracy in this game on the throws you pointed out, and this one, the high one to Earths is bad, but this is a big play. It's third and five. And Lane actually wins. And Lane wins.

Yeah, yeah, which is rare. Then go to 143 there in the second quarter, minute 43. He's got more coming open here. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yes, I know what play you're taking me to. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. This is the incompletion, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like, this is what you want here.

You want, you want this coverage. Urch takes the middle of field away. Pull the trigger on that. Yeah. This is, you've got to sit in his pocket and pull the trigger. Yeah, that's interesting. And that's the first down. All right.

You know, knocked him on, not pulling the trigger there. That's about it, right? That's the end of it. His playing time after, you know, then you're going to, What about what did he do well in the game? Ooh, not much. He is very limited positive plays where I graded him above an average play. And it would be when he had nobody open to man coverage and he still scramble

and got seven yards or six yards. And that's making something out of nothing. There were a couple times like that. But other than that, not very dynamic mentally and not very dynamic physically. What about the touchdown pass? about the touchdown pass to Ertz? Yeah, so I go to the touchdown past,

the Ritz should be the Moore he's coming butt-naked in the back of the end zone because, again, it's almost, it's this play, basically. They've run this play that I just showed you a minute 43, they run it on the goal line. And Moore's coming across wide open because Zach Erch takes the middle

defender away. Once he sees that middle defender go away, his head should go right towards Moore, and it doesn't. The good thing about the play is his little body shift in the pocket where he just slides a little left. Oh man. Moore is coming wide open. Wide open.

There's no way in the middle of the field. It's a backside dig. If they follow Earth, his eye should go right there. It just happened that I just showed you, right? Same play. What about the big one on that drive to Moore, the 44-yard one to more? Yeah, now money ball, right? Money ball.

Really athletic. nice touch. No, I liked it. Sure, you got points for that. But not crazy amount of points. What about the play? You know what's funny about that play? Go to that play. Everybody, remember I pointed this out to you, week one, where the Packers did it to Will Harris. They point to the safety, and they bring, they brought in Golden, and he sat behind Kraft. And then Harris thought he was getting blocked, but he didn't. Yeah. Washington tried to do it on that play, but they do it with Rob. If you watch the end view, Jaden points to Rob's guy that he wants in the block. He comes in, he gets inside the tight end, and they want to try to trick him. Like, it's going to be a run, but they don't bite it at all.

Rob gets caught up, and he shouldn't be anywhere near more in this route. He's probably supposed to run a clear-out, but he's getting jammed up. Oh, yeah. The spacing's terrible on that. Yeah. Yeah, it's terribly because he just, you know, he's coming off practice squad. He probably ran up one time in practice all week, so he doesn't understand the timing. Yeah.

They're like, oh, we're going to trick you, just like Packers did to us. We're going to point to the safety. We're going to make you think it's a run. And who's going to believe that Rob is going to come in and block a safety? I don't believe it. What about the play before he got hurt, the third and ten, when they were on the move in the third quarter? Let's see that.

The one to more, where he extends and gets out the pot and then throws back across his body. Yep, yep. My note is good scramble and way to keep your eyes to find more. So yeah, good, those are, and you asked you what he did well, and it was those. It was those when plays were broken down, and he needed to use his legs, and he did. Yeah. But there was only one, two, I only have three of those that were impactful.

You said that he didn't look as athletic as he normally looks. Yeah, he doesn't. I think the knee, maybe that hammy, he doesn't, not as explosive at that first game I covered when he was back in. He looked explosive, but he does not have that. look that he had then. So I don't know. I don't want to say this little break might be good for him a couple weeks, but he needs to get that

brace off his leg. And I'm not a doctor. I don't know if he's good or not, but he clearly doesn't like it on there. The grade for him in this game was what? So let's see, he's probably, he's like a C minus. Yeah.

Not a good, not a good one. You're not passing. If a B, a B is starter for me. You got to have a B, to play starting NFL football. Yeah. And that means you played a decent game. So he's under that benchmark for sure. Just wasn't a good, wasn't a good game.

All right. Let's stick with the offense. Top three, bottom three on offense. Top three. First goes to Jerry McNichols. Solid blitz pickup, made a big play in the run game. Other than that, nobody on the offense is special. So he's leading it.

Then Tunsel was my, excuse me, Cosme, am I saying that right? The new right guard? Yeah, Cosmi, yep. Yeah, so he was number two for me, played really well to start the game, and then had a couple blunders, but I would say to be expected because he's been out for so long. So that's a bright spot, and then Tunsell rounds out my top three. So I got McNichols, Cosme, and Tunzel.

All right. What was I going to ask? Bottom three go to, yeah. So bottom three go to Connerly, worst score for me. He had a bad day. and then if you want to throw a Marriota in there, he's my second because that pick six was just a really bad mistake. You can't make that.

Which was worse? That one or the fourth and five that he missed to McCaffrey. Ah, man, so the veteran in me, the mental part in me says the pick stick is the worst because the protection breaks down in the play. I think it's Chris Paul and the odd age. They messed it up. It's hard for me to tell who's at fault, so I gave them. I ding them both a little bit.

They don't protect the rights. You get the free rusher. And then he's trying to make a play, and he's scrambling. And he's just, his veteran hedge would say, I'm doing too much here. I can't float this ball out to the sideline. And then the game's over. So that's a game over play for me. You're not coming back off that pick six.

Yeah. Too great. Right. So that affects it more, my opinion. Yeah, but he's got to hit that loop ball too. That's a. So Connerly, Jr., Mario, and then are you going three, two, to the year worst graded? or did you already tell me that Connerley Jr. was the worst.

Connerley's worse. Okay. And then it's Jaden and Mariotta. Mario da 2 and then Jaden 3? Correct. Okay. Wow, not good when you're two quarterbacks among the two lowest grades on offense. One quick question before we get to defense.

You know, Marioita, we mentioned this after the Raiders game. You and I are massive college football fans, and he looked like as a dual-threat quarterback, he looked in that Raiders game like the Mariota at Oregon that won the Heisman. And I thought the two zone-reed keepers in this game, he looked great. And to me, if he's going to play, they got to work him in, truly work him into the run game. Not that they don't do it with Jaden, but they haven't recently. There were some zone reads, but he actually is better at decision-making in the zone reads. What do you think?

I agree. You mentioned it on our first, when we did this against the Raiders. Yeah. Because he was in. You said that last season, you know, I have to regurge what you said, but you were right. And I think it's evident from the coaching staff, the same thing. Because as soon as Mario came in and you ran two zone reads out of the next four plays. Right.

So they're clearly confident with him being able to make. that read and that judgment call, and it's going to be part of his offensive for sure, at least on Monday. They're going to use it. And it's clear that he does read it better than Jaden. And he looks good. He looks good, doesn't he? Like so, I mean, he's now, what is he, 31 years old, 32 years old, whatever it is? Yeah, I'm not sure, but yeah, but he's still athletic and young looking. Yeah, I get it. I mean, to me, you can play that way for a few games in the NFL. I mean, you can try to play like they do with Lamar.

Like, you know, have, I mean, I'm talking also not just zone reads, but, you know, Cliff has a lot of that quarterback counter and that quarterback power in the offense, even with Jaden. That should be part of the plan, don't you think? I don't disagree at all. You got to move the ball any way possible. I don't care if you got to use a quarterback. I don't get to put two fullbacks and you got to figure out a way to move the football. And if one of his best assets, is he is very good at Zone Reef, and let's do it. Absolutely. You can't be gun-shy to get him hurt.

It's too late for that. You've got to put all their cars on the table. And if he goes down, he goes down. Why couldn't they run the football with their running back in this game, Kraski Merritt? Yeah. It's offensive line not on the same page. It was more of one guy messing up each play that would cause a domino effect, and then they couldn't get everybody blocked.

I mean, early on, the first quarter, it looked like they were going to be able to run the football. And then it just kind of fell apart. I think the game got away. They didn't call enough. I wanted to see more from Kingsbury of the 6-0 lineman in the game or just running in general. I think, you know, I'm off the top of my head the first couple series. Decent run and then three wide receivers is the next play. And now we're passing.

And we're like, wait a minute. Come on. We just got eight-yard. That's what I thought. First play of the game is an eight-yard game. Yeah, you got two tight ends. let's keep too tight ends in, and let's show why they trade in Micah, right, in Jerry's eyes, because they couldn't stop the rod up the guy.

Well, let's put that to the test. Right. I think you went away from it too early, especially when you get the safety and then you take the lead. Like, let's go back to the ground, and they just weren't as dominant. And they had been. I think they would be like Connolly, like Connolly gets blown up a little bit, and then he bumps into Cosme, and then Cosby can't get to the second level because Connolly's guy blew him up.

and now, Covey can't get to his block, and it's all because of one domino. That stuff started to happen, and then it just kept happening throughout the game there towards the end. I think part of it is, and I'm wondering if you saw this, I think Cliff is just one of those guys. If you're going to load the box, you know, and you're going to play man coverage, we may have a run called, but we're canning it. We're throwing against a loaded box. But, you, I mean, you watch the game more than me. I don't think I've seen them. Can in much. I don't hear easy, easy. I don't hear Can-Can-can. I don't hear alert alert.

Those are those three things you're listening for, and it's very rarely that it's happening. So I don't, and I meant to say this, we had this conversation. I asked you last week about, you know, what is Jaden's ability at the line of scrimmage? What's his liberties? Is he allowed to check? He's allowed to that. And then you did mention that there's some can-can, but then I didn't mention. I don't know if they use can-can as the word, but I've seen him definitely changed the play. A play alert. Yeah. But this is how it works in the play. Yeah, sure.

If your offensive coordinator only sends in one play, then you don't have that option. That's right? And alert, easy, easy kill, right? So how that conversation would go coming in off the huddle and the headset, and I'm just going to make up a play here, like tank right, base right, 43 zone, alert, tank right, base right, banana, right? Whatever that passing concept is. I got to send you into plays to give you the option.

If I only send you in one, then you only have the option to run the alert. So maybe they need to do more of that sending in two plays. And maybe you'll see that with Marriota more than Jaden because of his experience. So I'd be curious to watch that, how many audibles Mario Tava calls. I remember last year a couple of times, Cliff saying Jaden's gotten us into the right play. All right, that's good. Yeah, but one quick thing. I just had a thought now.

Oh, yeah. You know what we haven't talked a lot about? offensively is their tempo and their, you know, hurry up. How much do you think it's benefiting them? I like it when they're running the football because then you get to keep the DeLiaman on the field, and that part helps. And I think it makes defenses declare early

where are you going to line up. You don't get to do much disguising. So sure, that part helps, and I think it's individually to your quarterback. If Jaden prefers it, and he wants to be on the line of scrimmage and getting more time looking at pre-snap, then you got to run with it. But I think that's a conversation between OC and QV.

Do they do it as much with Mario, I'd ask, I'd throw that back to you. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, it's both of them. Yeah, they, you know, one thing you don't get when you're only watching the All-22 is you don't get the tempo. You don't, you know, you can. Yeah, I don't always get that. Yeah, you don't get that from watching All-22, but they're going, they're snapping the ball.

I'm going to guess on average with 10 seconds left on the play. clock. They're right to the line of scrimmage. They don't huddle most of the time. All right. Let's go to the defense. Top three, bottom three defensively. Top three, go to Payne. Jacob Martin. We already talked about those two. And then I'll go Bobby Wagner. Number three. Now, outlier, Sheldon Day. Technically, his scores a little higher in Bobby, but obviously didn't play as many stats, but he showed me some flashes. And I'd be interested to see him get a little bit more playing time. And he probably will. moving forward. But

based off the amount of snaps and score goes the pain, Jacob Martin, Bobby Wagner, and then bottom three go to number one, Lattimore, number two, Sanders still on the broken record. And then shockingly, Reeves was my third lowest. Bad run fits

a couple times, missed the coverage, unlike him, uncharacteristic over the last couple of games I've watched. Yeah, because you loved Reeves when he was first in there. Did you think Savage, you followed up last week's, you know, decent performance because you liked him last week. Did he play well?

Yeah. Not as well, no. He's a negative score for me, so he's underneath that B threshold. He gave up the touchdown. He also gets go to 833. Go to 838 in the third quarter. I'll show you another one. This is like Savage doesn't, you don't know that he blows this, but this is a touchdown

if Dak wants it and it's on Savage. and it gets called back for a penalty anyway. But this is Cover 2, 838, third quarter. Got it. So he's in cover 2 here. He's responsible to Deep 3rd. And who's the number 19? Ryan Flourner, Floranoi.

Yeah, the receiver, yeah. Yeah, that's a touchdown. If Doc wants it. Because Amos is letting him go. He's in cover 2. He's got to break off off off his flat. And I don't know why Savage is jumping this tight-end theme when Wagner is coming to wall at all.

So that's a TD. That's a blown coverage for me for Savage. This is the first game you haven't mentioned Louvo at all. Yeah, that's true. And not that impactful. He's not out there making mistakes, but not out there making a bunch of plays either. A couple times I ding him because he's going around blocks

and not taking him all when he has to sit hit. That's his run fit. That's his gap. You got to take that on and be, you know, courageous so that doesn't get washed off. But he's taking a gamble, trying to swim move a guy, getting pushed out of his lane, and then that's how those runs go from three to four yards to eight yards.

But he's still a high effort guy. He still had a positive grade for me, so he's not in the negative. So he played the B football. Right. Just didn't have those impactful plays that he'd had. So last question, and I'll let you run, and I appreciate you doing this,

because I know it wasn't an easy week for you to do it. I think the big question for fans, and Quinn said after the game, he said about the defense, he said, we're looking at everything. Now, on Monday, he pushed back and said, you know, we haven't even started the process of looking at everything. Dorrance has gone for the year, Armstrong. You know, they re-signed that guy, Jalen Holmes, you know,

96, who was on the roster played a little bit. but I think the big question is, is this more coaching or is it more personnel? My answer to that has changed early. It was coaching. They were so bad in the secondary. We've talked about it at nauseam. Their communication was horrible. Can't cover guys. Guys would be blowing coverage. That's coaching. I don't know how you would come into each game that they were coming into and not knowing if you're locking a guy or banjo. guy or high low in guys. So that was mind-boggling me. That was 100% coaching.

I'm not in the business of people take after people's jobs, but it was in my head if I'm being honest. I'm like, this secondary coach is going to be gone next season because this is unacceptable. If I was a head coach, I wouldn't tolerate it. But now you're at a problem where

now you have personnel issues. So even if the coaching ironed itself out, now you're going to be behind eight balls because of personnel. You don't got the dog anymore. And I hate to say it, but I'm not optimistic at all for the team moving forward defensively, for sure. You're going to give up points every game moving forward. You just don't have the players. And you're probably going to still have coaching issues, too. So now you're going to have it both ways. Yeah. And if you're looking for it. No, I mean, all week,

it's like I've been, I think we've all been thinking, like, what the answer here, or is this team doomed because they were bad defensively last year? But Steve, the difference last year is that, first of all, Jaden basically carried the team. I mean, put the team on his back and he was just every single game, it was another magical performance. But defensively, they faced the likes of Kenny Pickett, Deshawn Watson, Andy Dalton, Jake Hainer and Spencer Rattler. You know, they got Michael Pennix Jr.

in his first road game. Right. You know, they were playing the Daniel Jones version in New York as a giant quarterback. And so this year, I mean, you just had Dak Prescott. Now you got Mahomes. Then you get Seattle and what they're doing. And then you get Jared Gough and the Lions. Like, so it's just, yeah.

The only way they're going to win games is if offensively they do what they did last year. They put up a lot of points. They possessed the football. They kept their defense on the sideline. I would be stunned, maybe stunned a little too high or dramatic of a word. But if you hold a team under 25 points the rest of the year, I'd be shocked. So you've got to score more than that every game. Yeah, that's

You're not going to be able to stop the run You're not going to get any rush on the passer I mean, where's it going to come from? None of these guys right now up front Exception of Jacob Martin And occasionally of Von Miller And that's occasionally Who's going to win a pass rush 101

And like it's just not there Kinlo? Not there consistently not He doesn't I mean he gets some pressure But he doesn't like win one-on-one Well, they don't one-on-one block them a lot. If you're going to rush four,

if I'm on offense, playing against these four, and they're rushing four, I'm double team in Kinlaw, and I'm going to single block everybody else because I don't think anybody even pain. He does not threaten me offensively as a pass rusher.

I'll let one guard block him all day. If maybe he makes one play on me the whole game on a pass rush. Well, I think they got a look at guys like McGee and Louvo. And by the way, Wagner, is okay as a blitzer, but they just got to, they're going to have to bring the house a lot and pray. I mean, they got to shake it up. They got to shake it up.

All right. It's going to be rough. Great job. Appreciate it. Talk to you next week. You're welcome, man. Steve Suter, everybody, not very optimistic about the defense. There's not much reason to be optimistic. But they're going to go ahead, as I like to say, and play the rest of these games anyway. but man, they are going to have to get healthy on offense, get Jaden back, and start doing what they did last year. That's the only answer to salvaging this season

and turning it into something resembling what some of us, yours truly, thought this season would be. All right, we'll finish up with Steve Inspector. He'll talk chiefs with us right after these words from a few of our sponsors. This segment of the show is brought you by Window Nation. Window Nations focused right now on the DMV, the D.C. area, especially those of you that have been affected by the government shutdown. They want to help out anybody that's been affected by that government shutdown if you've got an interest in replacing your old windows with new windows before winter arrives. They're offering an unlimited buy-to get-to-free opportunity.

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Joining me right now, Stephen Spector, you guys remember Stephen. He's been on the show before to talk Chiefs. Stephen worked with us back at 980 for many years until he left for Kansas City, sometime around 2014, 2015, I think Steven, somewhere around there. And he is the program director and a talk show host at Sports Talk, The Fan, 96.5 in Kansas City. You can follow Stephen on X on Twitter at Steven Specter 10. Let me just start with this, because I think the whole league is talking about it after one of the more lopsided box score wins I've ever seen against the Raiders on Sunday, but four out of the last five, two straight, including the game a week ago Sunday against the Lions at Arrowhead. And now everybody has come to the conclusion that as the team's gotten healthy, Kansas City once again is the team to beat and the team that will

represent the AFC in the Super Bowl. Is that what you guys think? That's the dominant conversation here, and the prevailing thought is, yes, that this is the favorite to come out of the AFC, and I think it's twofold. One, you mentioned they are four and three,

but the rest of the NFL seems like they're four and three. I mean, the bills now have two losses. You know, the chargers are four and three and going on the wrong direction. The Broncos are five and two, but that's a miraculous five and two after narrow escaping the New York teams.

You're not really scared of anybody in the AFC North. Yeah, the Colts are 6 and 1, but you know, if the playoffs started today and Daniel Jones and the Colts were taking on Patrick Holmes and the Chiefs, I think the prevailing thought would be, yeah, the

chiefs are the better team. So in a muddled AFC, the Chiefs are certainly playing the best football in going into week 8. Yes, that's true. The second part is in the conversation that's happening now here in Kansas City is, you know, despite a 15 and 2 last year, that was not a very good

Chief's team. And it was not an enjoyable watch. They got, let's call it what it is, a little bit lucky at the end of games, but that was a flawed roster with not a lot of good offensive weapons and a good defense. And now all of a sudden, the Chiefs have a good defense and what appears to be now the best offense in football. You know, they made all these investments in Rishi Rice in the second round a couple years ago. They were worthy last year in the first round.

They signed Hollywood Brown. Up until last week, they'd never played together. You know, it took 14 months for those three wide receivers to play together. And now that you have those three guys, you add in juju, Kelsey doesn't have to be the main focus point. The offensive line, you know, a little bit banged up going into Monday night against the commanders is off to a great start. this is now back to an offense that we saw in 2018, 2019, 2020, where if you are not going to score 28 points against the Chief,

you are not in the conversation of winning against them. So to answer your question, I think they should be the ASC favorites. That doesn't mean they're going to win, but right now they're playing the best football in the AFC. Yeah, you answered my next question, and I thought the answer would be that, that this is a much better team this year, in terms of their potential because of the offensive, you know,

weaponry now than it was last year. You know, Josh Simmons was that first round pick, picked after, by the way, Washington selected Josh Connerly Jr. at tackle as well. And there's a really odd story about your first round pick from Ohio State. Tell everybody about it. Yeah, so this is a guy who, you know, if you listen to the draft experts, would have been picked in the top 10 if he's healthy, but it had a weird knee injury. at Ohio State last year, and he fell to the chief at the final pick of the first round.

Wasn't expected to be the starter, wasn't expected to be ready by training camp, and all of a sudden he was, and he was their best offensive linemen from the jump. And Kevin, you'll understand this reference. A lot of people think he's like a young Trent Williams. And you remember how good Trent was the early days in Washington. There are a lot of Trent Williams comparisons. to Josh Simmons. And a couple weeks ago,

they were going into that Monday night game against Jacksonville, and all of a sudden he popped up with a questionable with an illness. And then he was a no-show on Sunday against the Lions, and obviously did not play this last Sunday morning against the Raiders. And they're just saying it's a family situation. There's no information out there. He's not with the team, but the expectation is he's certainly not going to play on Monday,

night. I mean, the left thing happens in the next 24 to 48 hours where Andy, before Andy Reid speaks, but the chiefs are certainly without their dominant left tackle. Now, they've replaced him with the guy that they made a splash with in the offseason in Jalen Moore, so they're good at left tackle. They're certainly not weak there, but they're not at their full strength without their first round pick. Is it one of the things, so people don't know exactly what it is specifically, but is it an AWOL situation? I mean, did he just leave the team or is this excused? I truthfully don't know the answer to that. The media doesn't know the answer to that,

but if you were to poll people here, it would skew towards a wall unexcused absence. But that is not a confirmed opinion. That is what the media believes to be. Strange situation, because he really did start off like a house of fire. And I was actually, you know, Washington had the opportunity to draft him. And I'm wondering if, you know, something that's going on in his life right now and you pray for him. And if it's a family situation, if it's a personal situation, you want it to work out.

But I'm wondering if that's one of those things that maybe it's the reason he fell a little bit further in the draft than a lot of people thought. Who knows? There were rumbling about, you know, the dreaded word character concerns going into the draft, but nobody really ever uncovered an issue with the law or issue with teammates. And so maybe it ties back something into that. But the reason he really flipped in the draft is he had a knee injury that is uncommon in the NFL. And that's mostly why he flipped. But again, you know, I'm not in the inside of those draft rooms where they know every piece of information.

But that could certainly be one of those causes that Adam, you know, fall out of the top 10 to number 32 overall. Have you guys been talking in Kansas City this week about, how bad Washington is defensively? No, because after that, you know, there's 24 hours of I've never seen anybody beat another NFL team like that. That was Monday's conversation. Tuesday was much more about the chiefs of the best team in the AFC West, and this is the best team that they've had in a number of years.

Honestly, the focus has not even really started on Washington due to it being Monday. Yeah, sure. You know, the NFL schedule is a little bit weird, but it's mostly been about the chiefs are back and the national conversation surrounding the chiefs. So our focus on the commanders hasn't even really started at the moment. So how bad a JD-Daniels being hurt, obviously. That goes without saying. Right. They are right now a horrendous defensive football team, especially if you look at every opponent they've played that's had capability offensively.

It's been a nightmare, as it was, on Sunday, against a really good. offensive team in Dallas. So one more question about the offense, because you've told us a lot about it already. You know, with Rice and Worthy and Hollywood Brown and Smith Schuster, the key, though, was Rice, right? Like getting Rishi Rice back is a game changer for that offense. Absolutely. But the other game changers is Xavier Worthy. And we saw this, there was a lot of panic here through the first three weeks. of the season. You know, they

Rishi writes it out. They suspended for the first six weeks for some off-field incidents two years ago, but Xavier Worthy coming into year two and then all of a sudden on the third play of the season, he runs into Travis Kelsey and they lose their top weapon.

They then are struggling to score against Philadelphia. They barely beat the Giants. And then all of a sudden he comes back and they haven't scored less than 30 points since Xavier Worthy's return. So there's some precursor to getting Rishi Rice back. Now, Rishie Rice is the better wide receiver.

I would rather have Rishie Rice and Xavier Worthy, but the combination of what those two guys do on the field, worthy being the burner but still a great receiver down the field, stretching the defense, and Rishie Rice doing all the dirty work underneath the run after the catch stuff, the two of them complement each other, and then Juju and Hollywood Brown and Travis Kelsey all playoff of those two. guys. So again, we got to see four weeks of it last year with Rice and Worthy on the field. We got to see it for basically one half of football against the Raiders because they called off

the dogs in the third quarter. So it'll be interesting to see how those two play with each other, but I think it's one A and one B between Worthy and Rice about who's the most important guy. Sticking with the offense, actually, does Joanne Taylor, how many penalties does he have a game? You're right, tackle. I mean, by the way, the only reason we know that is because every NFL fan gets to see the chiefs basically every week. But it is amazing to me how many times he either lines up, you know, too far back or false starts. Yep. So he had a number of issues in week one in Brazil.

Matt Nagy, the offensive coordinator said, we're going to address it. They didn't have any issues in week two or three. then he had issues in week four, and he said, all right, this time I'm going to address it, and they haven't had any DeWan Taylor issues in the last three weeks. Really? I guess they just need to keep reminding him that you need to stay on sides, you need to stop holding, but listen, the guys are the most penalized offensive linemen in the league for over half a decade. So he has a penalty problem, but he is currently on a pretty good three-week streak of keeping it quiet.

Yeah, I'm pulling up the numbers. So good three-week stretch. He's still second in the league in total penalties against. On the Raider game, I talked about this on the show either yesterday on Monday. I've never seen a box score look like that. I mean, you were, you know, witness to the game start to finish. I know the Raiders. I turned it off in the third quarter.

Once Gardner-Minshu comes in, I'm on to Red Zone in the witching hour. That 30-3 first downs, you know, 400 and yards. to 80 or whatever. 77 plays to 30 plays. So in talking about that game, what was the conversation? I'm assuming there were some, I was looking for some level of information regarding records set, and I couldn't really find it, but I've never seen a box score in an NFL game that looked like that.

You know, we've seen scores where, you know, like I'm thinking about the Dolphins and Broncos two years ago. It was like 70 to 20. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, whatever it was. but I remember watching a game is like, not like the Dolphins or the Broncos didn't belong, like still two NFL teams, still, you know, guys moving the ball up and down the field.

It was like varsity versus JV on Sunday morning. I mean, it was, one of our afternoon hosts that Ohio State basically could have done what the Raiders did on Sunday, and nobody think that any college team could compete with an NFL team. But that Raiders team looked as disinterested and as heartbroken, as you could possibly look as a professional football player. Then you lose Max Crosby and Jacoby Myers is in playing.

Brock Bowers was ruled out earlier in the week. It was just, it was never good from the get-go, but I've never seen a team as inept as they were offensively. You know, defensively, you can say what you want, the chiefs were, you know, rolling on all cylinders. They get Rishu rights back, but really offensively,

I've never seen the worst performance from an NFL team as I did from the Raiders on Sunday. It was just pathetic. Tell me what Washington gets to go up against offense against the chief defense. Obviously, it's no Jaden Daniels in the game. But I've loved this Carloptoe since they drafted him. Tell me about the players and the kind of defense Kansas City is playing this year. Yeah, the weakness for the Chiefs team,

if you're talking about the weakness of the 53-man roster is pass rush. They have not been great this year. and Carloptoes has been fine, and Chris Jones is getting double-teamed a lot, but they do not put a lot of pressure on the quarterback. So if you're looking for a glimmer of hope, if you're a commander, Spenton, maybe Marcus Mariotta has a little bit more time to make the right decision. And, you know, McClorn and Bibo are back. And, you know, Kroski Merritt's got a little bit of time, you know,

to make his cuts and the running game gets going, and Marioto can use his legs. That's a glimmer of hope if you're looking for something. offensively, but the secondary is good. The linebacks are playing great. They made a switch with their safety a couple weeks ago. So secondary linebackers are not where you're going to get the chiefs, where you're going to get the chiefs of good protection from your offensive line, double-teaming Chris Jones, keeping Carlis off him. But if you don't get pressure, you can make some plays in the passing game. So if Murray-Rood is able to do that, that's a recipe and

a route for success. But again, it starts at 28 points. And if you don't think Marcus Mirroita and the commanders are putting up 28 points. It's really a dead issue. Yeah, that's 28 against a normal defense. So, yeah, that's my biggest concern going in as well. So you've just

summed it up. Twenty-eight from Washington where they have no shot unless we get one of those crazy turnover games. And Washington's created the fewest turnovers of any team in the league not named the Jets so far. And you guys don't turn it over, right? For the most part.

Patrick Mahomes, I think, has two interceptions for the season. They don't really fumble the ball. I'm knocking on wood as I say all these things. So, yeah, it would take, you know, it happened in Jacksonville a couple weeks ago where a couple turnovers ended up coming back to bite the chief. So if that happens, all bets are off in any NFL game. But keeping the ball and it is one of the strengths of the chief offense, for sure. By the way, here's a question.

Harrison Butker, and it started kind of last year, correct me if I'm wrong, but he's not the kicker that he was a few years ago. Nope. He's had a, they held him back against the Raiders this past weekend, but he's had a mistake in five or six games. And those mistakes, you can point directly to a couple of those three losses. So he has certainly not been, it's not a distance issue. It has been an accuracy issue.

So he's still good from 50 plus, but you're talking about an extra point. here or a chip shot there, it's no longer an automatic done deal. Stephen Specter, everybody. Yes, the guy that was on the air with me producing the day that the earthquake hit in August of 2011. That means we'll have a 15-year anniversary coming up this summer that we will celebrate together. I'll call you to remind you of that. Always good to catch up. Hope things are well. Enjoy the game Monday night. Appreciate it, Kevin. Thanks for having me, as always. All right, that's it.

Back tomorrow with Tommy. I think under Spurrier, the skins were four and out. Now, I won't compare Spurrier to Shannan, but what I will compare is a pretty season. I got to interrupt you. I don't know if we just had an earthquake here or we're in the midst of an earthquake here, but the studio is shaking. Stephen, what's going on here? I have no idea. Our alarms going off.

We're not sure what it is in this building. could have been the building, but it felt like an earthquake. Stephen, am I right? That was freaky. I have to say that was really creepy. We got to see if anybody's reporting this right now. If you're in Montgomery County, we're in Rockville, that's where our studios are. There was some significant shaking and rattling.

We got to go.