The Kevin Sheehan Show - Jayden's First Adversity Bout

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

Kevin and Thom today with lots of Jayden Daniels in the opening segment of the show including more RG3 comparison talk along with the idea that he is facing legitimate adversity for the first time in his career. The boys were recording the show this morning when the Chauncey Billups story broke and reacted in real time. Thom had his Commanders-Chiefs Monday Night prediction. Wizards, Wembanyana, and World Series were a part of the show as well. For all your football betting needs: DCRELOAD at MyBookie for a 50% Deposit Match Want to spruce up your lawn? FastGrowingTrees.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheon Show. He is Kevin. Tommy's here. I am here. The show's presenting sponsor is always window nation.

86690 Nation or windownation.com. If you need new windows, Tommy will have his Washington, Kansas City prediction on the show today. And also, you're going to give us a quick World Series preview and pick, correct? Are you prepared for that? Yes, I am. Okay. Yes, I'm not prepared for it, but I'll give you one.

Yeah, I mean, you're never prepared for anything. I mean, this is the God's honest truth, people. When we would be sitting in the same studio together for many, many years, doing, you know, a show every single day, and a topic would come up that maybe we had even discussed before the show began. I would see him scurrying in his laptop and with his phone and his, I mean, you should see Tommy try to read messages on a phone. He puts the phone right up to his face so that he can actually see it.

And then all the sudden, magically, not only would he have a take, not only would he have, you know, a position on something, it was coherent. It was smart. You are a wing it person for the most part, right? Oh, I am. I am a moment-to-moment guy. Yeah. I mean, I wing it a lot, too. day.

Would you say, I'm sorry? Not even day to day, moment to moment. You're like the NFL, hour to hour. Yeah. I wing it a lot too, but I think with you, I think two guys winging it every single day for multiple hours per day would have been dangerous. So I had to be the guy that had at least a little bit of a roadmap during the show.

But yeah, this podcast, there are many times we both kind of come in and just wing it. By the way, we are recording this in the morning on Thursday morning, October 23rd, and we both just saw this Chauncey Billups, the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers, getting arrested for apparently illegal gambling. So this story may be furthered by the time you guys listened to this. My immediate reaction was if you're, unless it's some sort of scheme, because they suggested that he was betting on other teams games. Unless you're fixing games or point shaving, you're breaking the rules of the league,

but are you doing something illegal in which you would get arrested? I can't wait to hear the details of this. The NBA's... I mean, this sounds like a nightmare scenario for the NBA, as it just opened their seasons. Yeah. Yeah, and Terry Rozier arrested as well. We've known that he's been involved in some sketchy stuff for a while.

Man, the legalization of sports betting, I'm sure most people understood what was, you know, possible down the road. But I think I said this to you, the day that it happened, because I think we may have been doing the show together when they first started talking about legalizing it. And I said this, and remember the leagues, the NFL and Major League Baseball and the NBA, they wanted from all of the bookmakers, the legal sports books, they wanted what they called an integrity fee. And I said, no, no, no, it's the opposite way. You should be paying them because they're the ones that can track this stuff. They're the ones that have been tracking it illegally or legally in Vegas for many years in telling you that there is suspicious, betting patterns on a particular game.

You can't tell anybody what's going on with the betting on a game. You're not keeping the integrity of the game. The sports books are actually doing that. And of course, that went by the wayside pretty quickly as the sports books laughed at the leagues and said, no, what we're about to do is going to lift you up even more so than when it was illegal. You should be paying us. And I think they got that eventually right. But weird story, Chauncey Billups, man, a head coach, arrested.

I mean, look, my argument has always been for people who, you know, say this is a horrible introduction into the United States sports, legalized sports betting. Yeah. I mean, they've been doing it in most of the civilized world for decades. Yeah. And the sports have managed to survive. We just have lived by a Puritanic ethic for years. But that said, of all sports, basketball is the most, I think the most susceptible and has the biggest history, even with a 1919 Black Sox scandal, basketball has, I think, the biggest history of sports betting scandals. You know, I would bet that's true.

I mean, I think about like Boston College and Tulane and a lot of those college sports betting. I mean, Henry Hill was involved in the Boston College scheme. But the reason that basketball is probably the sport in which much of this has happened is there are many fewer players. And so it's, and you only need a player, really, one. to impact a game and impact whereas in baseball and in football and other sports you need more than one. But a coach,

a coach is a different level of scandal for the NBA. Yeah, definitely. Well, we'll see what happens. Yes. Got a couple of emails to read here. I'll save the best one for last. This one, I was going to read the other day, and I just forgot to read it.

Brian writes, Kevin, I'm a longtime skins fan all the way back to the early 80s. Can you please have Tom explain the difference between today's skins and the RG3 skins? I don't think you are objective enough because of your love for the coaching staff that was here in 2012.

2013 was a disaster, and it looks like 2025 is the same way. Also, if we have a top five picnic spring, will Josh Harris change the name back to the proper one. Oh, meaning if the season really is a terrible season and you end up having a top five pick, will he end up changing the name? Anyway, no, I don't think the proper name is ever going to be in play personally, Brian.

But I don't know why I need this explain to me, but Tommy, Brian wants you to explain the difference between the skins of today and the RG3 skins. Well, the biggest difference is Dan Snyder's not involved. Yes. I mean, that's the biggest difference right there. I mean, you have a reputable owner who could care less about hanging out with the 24-year-old or 25-year-old quarterback, you know, and being his buddy in Josh Harris. And that trickled down to everything that gets done. Adam Peters and Dan Quinn are in charge of what happens to Jaden Daniels.

It's not, you know, it's not Mike Shanahan worried about what the owner is going to do with his prize young quarterback. So that's the biggest difference right there, among many other differences. But the biggest difference with everything is that you have different ownership. I mean, Dan Snyder affected everything. So of course That's the That he affected He except

Whatever issues they had in 2013 They were Accelerated They were More emphasized Because Dan Snyder was the owner God, thank you for explaining that to me I had no idea that that was

Something that I would have never thought That the owner Had anything to do with the difference between 2012, 2013 and now. Well, I was able to do that because I'm better prepared. Yeah, you're much better prepared.

Brian, good call to have Tom explain that to me. By the way, my love of the coaching staff, I think, in hindsight, was legitimately justifiable love. I mean, it's the story that that still goes on today. When you're a day and age, they still bring up everybody who was on that Redskins coaching staff as a story. And I think... And it's been, it's been, what? 2013.

It's been, you know, 13 years since then. And we're, you know, it's still a story. Brian, I mean, we may have talked about this once or twice. I mean, we didn't, this wasn't a big topic in 2012 or 2013 when we were doing the show or any of the 12 to 13 years that have followed. But the biggest problem was taught, you know, is what Tommy Explore. but Mike Shanahan was ready to quit the day after a playoff game because of the interference between the owner and the quarterback and the owner and the quarterback's family and what the

coaches wanted for the quarterback. I think we may have mentioned that a time or two. This from Michael, Michael writes, Kevin, could you please explain to me the NFL rule surrounding when the offense substitutes a player and the. the referee holds the snap to allow the defense time to also substitute. The skins, I refuse to acknowledge the current name, have been on the wrong side of this rule more than a couple of times this season, with yesterday's game at Dallas being the most recent. So, Michael, you're right, by the way.

We talked about this last year that they were on the wrong side of this, that for whatever reason, the play from Cliff is coming in perhaps too late, So the sub package is coming in later on the play clock than perhaps necessary. And yes, the defense is allowed. It is not spelled out how much time specifically. It's a very subjective thing. The referee gives the defense ample time to respond to the offense's subpatchage. Some defenses, you'll see the players barely jogging back out onto the field.

You know, the new players, the new package coming in. as the referee is holding up the snap from center to let that play clock go down even further. But I agree with you. I see Washington having a lot of issues with this. And last year, I think it was the same thing. And they had to burn a timeout in the Chargers game because of it. And then they took a delay of game penalty in the Chargers game because of it. But the rule is the defense has ample.

time, it's at the referee's discretion as to whether or not he'll move away if the defense isn't subbing and matching the offense quickly enough. Yeah. This from, where is it, this from Black Choktaugh. What's Black Choktaugh? Is that in... That may be, you know, an Indian. That's what I'm guessing, but I don't know if it's, yeah, whatever. He, writes, Kevin, for you to say that Jaden Daniels is elite is so laughable now and then. He's not even the best quarterback in the division. Jaden got hurt in Dallas because he's not seeing it. Ertz was open on the hot route, but Jaden didn't trust his eyes. I think on that play it was a site adjustment so J.D. can throw it quickly and with anticipation, which he is severely lacking. There were numerous opportunities to Luke

and a 26th, that would be McNichols, which would have resulted in TDs. He's not seeing it. Therefore, he has regressed. That's what Tom Brady was talking about. The guy in New England has passed him in the pocket footwork anticipation decisiveness. Please see Stillframe Jaden got hurt on. If he slides to the left and throws with anticipation, it's a first down and doesn't get hurt. You know, this is the thing that I wanted to talk about here in the open is just, you know, this is the first real adversity that Jaden has faced.

Last year, remember, he was just checking off every single box as the season went on. Every single quarterback, you know, thing that you look at, he was checking those boxes off week in and week out. By the way, including, by the way, oh, this guy signed it. his name is Nat. I'll refer to him as Nat. Nat says that he doesn't see it. He saw it all last year. I mean, nobody saw it better.

He checked off every single box last year. But remember, I said, the one thing we don't know about this guy is how is he going to play in a big game and what's he going to do when he faces real adversity? They have a losing streak. He doesn't play well. And people start questioning him.

Well, they had a three-game losing skid, but it really wasn't his issue. No one was really questioning him during that time. But now, injury, the potential for an ongoing injury saga is the biggest criticism right now or fear with him. But there's a lot of this going on too. And Steve Souter's film breakdown, he said, this was Jaden's worst game. He gave him a C-minus for the game. He said he didn't see some things.

He missed some things. And when he did throw, you know, he missed some things with accuracy. He also said that, you know, part of it was more likely than not the issue of not having receivers out there that he could really trust or that he was comfortable with. But look, Nat, I mean, come on, man. This is the kind of conversation that just blows me away, whether it's about Jaden or Adam Peters or Dan Quinn. there are 10 games left in this season. Washington's been one of the most injured teams in the league so far. That's just a reality.

That's just an actual fact that this has impacted their season, including, by the way, the quarterback who's about to miss his third game this year, I agree that I thought Sunday, and I gave him a C for the game. I thought it was by far and away the worst game he had this year. I thought he missed things accuracy-wise. I thought he missed things that you pointed out and Steve Suter pointed out. But, dude, it's one game. You've got to be kidding me.

Two weeks ago, he was elite against the Chargers after the first two drives. You know, Suter came in here and said, good God, this guy's unbelievable. Everybody did. That's two weeks ago. It's a game. It's a game. This is what Zach Hurth said after the Chicago game. game when the fumble happened.

Yeah. We have no chance of being in that football game without Jaden. Of course not. The plays he made with his legs, the plays he made with his arm. The only reason we were in the game and a position to win was because of Jaden Daniels. I know he's the leader of this team. He's going to ultimately put a lot on himself for wins and losses. But as a teammate, as a competitor, we have no chance of being in that game without

him. This is Zach Kurt, the veteran tight end, the guy who he didn't see on this play that you're talking about in the last game. This is what this team believes. This is what his teammates believe around him. You know, I mentioned

on Tuesday, which would have been two days ago, that Baker Mayfield just had a horrendous game against the Lions. I mean, he was just off. I mean, he was 28 of 50. Every ball that he missed was high and off target.

This was a guy that was in the discussion for MVP. Quarterbacks do have bad days. And you know when quarterbacks have some of their worst days, when they don't have any of their receivers on the field? And by the way, every possession is if we don't score, we're going to walk back out onto the field the next time, down another seven or another three points. I do agree with you, Nat.

He did not trust it or he didn't see it. Whatever it was, that was not a good game for him. No doubt. He had some very good plays in the game. And I still think with a half left of football, there was a chance that things were going to turn around. We've seen that before with him. We've seen him have kind of an up and down first half and then come out and light it up in the second half. you know, the Philadelphia game late in the season last year.

We've seen him do that, even the Atlanta game last year, where the first half was a little bit rocky, and then the second half, you know, they lit it up and then he, you know, put the team on his back in overtime and carried them to a playoff birth clinching win. But I just, I don't know, man, it's weird to me. It is probably, you know, the damage that you've talked about before. It's like people are just expecting the worst. And one football game in which Jaden was off and the team got blown out, and now all of the sudden he's not elite, and it's laughable that anybody suggested he was elite?

Did you watch last season? I mean, did you watch the Chargers game? Yeah. I understand it. There's a lot of scars. Yeah. So I understand the overreactions, but we're here to talk you off the cliff. Consider us counselors.

Yeah. Okay? Consider us, you know, PTSD counselors. The Drake May thing, there is no doubt he's playing well. I also just want to remind everybody, and I think most of you have seen this, the Patriots have played the easiest schedule through the first seven games in NFL history. They have the easiest schedule remaining in NFL history. Now, that is as it stands right now, because they have the Jets twice who are winless.

If the Jets start winning a bunch of games, that will change. I'm not sure anybody's expecting that. No. But I like Drake, May, and I like the way he's playing. And I've watched the Saints game and I watch the Titans game. because I had the Jets and the Titans. And so I was paying attention, and I kept saying, God, this guy is good. He is good.

But, you know, there's a long way to go on him. There's a long way to go on a lot of these guys. None of the guys in the 2024 draft have done so far, and it's very early, what Jaden Daniels did last year. And what he's even done at times this year. If you look at some of the advanced numbers on Jaden, he's having a good season, you know, in the games that he's played in. It just isn't last season at this point. And I would certainly, you know, put into the, you know, put onto the list of reasons that they just haven't been a healthy football team.

You know, anywhere, wide receivers or anywhere else, and that's impacted the entire team. They got 10 games left. Let's, you know, let's wait, you know, not just through this year, but maybe a couple of more before, you know, we jump off the bridge after one bad game. If he ends up having six bad games and only two good games when he comes back and has eight or nine left, you know, we can talk about maybe regression. But I would never describe it through the games that he's played in at this point as regression because he had one bad game. That's absurd.

What else did I have? I had one other thing that I wanted to do. read to you. No, I think that's it. I think that's it. The Adam Peters stuff keeps coming in. It's the same with Quinn. They made a mistake. They should have hired Ben Johnson. I've gotten a lot of that through various people. Adam Peters is too tough. The trade that he made for Latimore has set this team back, you know, a year or two. I would admit that right now the trade for Latimore does not good. There's no doubt that that trade does not look like

a good trade right now. Nobody was crying about that when the trade was made. Oh, no, no, no, not at all. Not at all. No. I, uh, oh, I got, I got this from from Bill. Bill writes, in the subject

heading was, contradict yourself much. Kevin loved the show, been a fan since the Rigo days. I have a point of contention with today's show. You give Peters a pass saying, On one side, he's only had 20 months to restock an empty cupboard, but then you say there is no rebuilding in the NFL. Oh, now I get it, Bill, my fault, because I did respond to Bill via email in terms of where I contradict myself.

That's fair. That's kind of contradictory. I give him credit for the most part, but you can't ignore certain glaring issues with the benefit of hindsight. We gave up picks for a guy who was targeted weekly by other teams. That is true with Latimore. The two drafts haven't provided. anything of significance beyond JD5, credit for picking the right guy. All the others either haven't sniffed the field, haven't made an impact, or have made

minor impact. By impact, I mean someone who was a glaring talent and we're certain will have a great career. He goes on and on and on. I mean, I've gotten a lot of these about Adam Peters. You know, I mean, the draft is a legitimate issue right now. It isn't for me. It's not for me. I think it is.

I think it's a legitimate. I mean, it's not, it's not cause for an old reaction because it's still early on some of these guys. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, they haven't drafted the impact players except for Jane Daniels. That's a pretty big get, though, isn't it? Yes, it is. The most important get. Look, it wasn't that, but again, you know, I've seen people screw up easy decisions before.

It wasn't that difficult a decision, I don't think. You know what? At this point, maybe we should just get through that. Somebody had written this the other day. Let's tank this season, clean house, and we'll have a top five pick, and we can start all over in 2026. And do it the right way. And do it the right way. Bill the right way.

Yes. Yeah. So on the draft, it's just way too early to judge a draft. I don't know how you could possibly, you know, evaluate this year's draft, although many fans already wanted to make Trey Amos early in the season, the defensive rookie of the year. And Bill Kroski Merritt, the NFL's offensive rookie of the year. Let's not forget some of those conversations. Last year's draft, in terms of last year, in addition to... to Jaden Daniels,

Mikey Sanristil was a significant contributor to their season, to their great season. Yes, but he hasn't been this year. Okay, we got to give it time. Brandon Coleman. I said that. I said it's still too early. Brandon Coleman was a significant...

The reality is, they have not had the impact players, other NJD. Well, Sanristil was an impact player last year when they went to the NFC championship game as a rookie, as a rookie at a very difficult position to be an impact player as a rookie. I'm not saying that he's having a good season this year. He's not. But we've seen him do it.

We saw him do it as an outside corner last year. Brandon Coleman was a significant contributor to their excellent season last year. Now, that's the one so far that looks like a mistake. But I want to mention to everybody, if you hit on 30, percent of your picks. Three years after, you've got 38 percent of them left on your roster contributing. That is a successful draft in the NFL. The idea that every single player that Adam Peters drafts is going to be a meaningful contributor within a year and seven games is an absurd notion. It just doesn't happen. Maybe with Howie Roseman, it does, but most

GMs it doesn't. But we could be seeing, you know, okay, Sanra still and Coleman, obviously step backs, but Johnny Newton, a step up this year. Jordan McGee's starting to get time. You know, now he'd step up. Look, Giovante John Baptiste, before he got injured, was contributing. This year's draft, I don't even want to go down this path. I mean, two, three weeks ago, Kroski Merritt was going to be Emmett Smith, and it was going to be one of the great seventh round picks in the history of the league. Two weeks later, he can't draft. Here's the thing for all of the Adam Peters can't do it and he has screwed us. I will absolutely agree that in hindsight, the Latimore trade looks like a bad trade. It does. You know, there are some other trades he's made

that look pretty good, the Dotson trade. You know, certainly the flipping with Philadelphia where they ended up with Cooper DeGine, you know, doesn't look great. Looks like Howie Roseman got the better of that part deal at this point, still very early. But, Remember, in his first season, the cupboard was bare, all right? And he went out and added, first of all, he got the quarterback right, and the quarterback ended up having, you know, a Pro Bowl season in his rookie season and the greatest rookie season in the history of the league at quarterback. And he got the following guys that ended up being significant in what Washington accomplished last year.

Bobby Wagner, Frankie Louvre, Zach Ertz, Dorrance Armstrong, Fowler Jr., Noah Brown, Zechias, Chin, Mariotta, you know, special team players like McNichols, who turned out to, is now contributing as a running back, Belor, Owens, all significant and low-cost additions that were instrumental in their success last year, Not to mention, in addition to Jaden, Sanristil and Coleman were major contributors in rookie seasons that ended up in the NFC championship game. Are we just going to ignore that after seven games of year two? I think that's ridiculous because now Newton is stepping up. John Baptiste was stepping up. Sinit now is starting to step up a bit.

He's turned into a pretty good blocker. He effed up the Latimore deal. He screwed up the kicker situation, not necessarily their fault. Maybe it was the McManus botch. But overall, I don't know how anybody in 20 months of him being a general manager could consider anything other than A-minus B-plus territory. Okay, listen, I agree with a lot of what you're saying. But let's get specific for a minute. Would you offer Johnny Newton a contract extension based on what you've seen?

Based on, well, you don't have to yet. Why would I even consider that at this point? Would you? Johnny Newton? Yeah, I think Johnny Newton's going to be a good player. I do. But, you know, it's, again, he's played in out of the potential 27 games. You know, he was injured, remember, coming off the injury heading into last year,

which slowed his development as a rookie. I mean, I don't know, has he played in 20 of them, maybe? I think his presence has been a disappointment. Oh, I think it's on the verge of becoming... And I think he's been it as well. But, okay, but what did you want with... What would you have preferred with Johnny Newton coming into the league off the injury that he was coming into the league with?

I mean, it... Whatever reason. It takes time. He hasn't been a huge impact player. Well, he's been an impact player at time. but not a huge impact player. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, I think Johnny Newton's going to be a good player. To answer your question. Yes. I don't know about Ben's Senate. Thanks on what he's done so far. Yeah. I wouldn't offer if it was time to give him a contract extension. It's not time, though.

And I know I know, but if it was, I wouldn't pay him. Yeah. And there's a reason that it's not time because the league knows you can't evaluate a player in a season and a quarter of one. or approaching a half of one. You get until the fourth year for the first rounders, and at least through three years with every other round to decide whether or not you want to extend them,

and sometimes you get all four. I just, this is like, I can't emphasize it enough. To evaluate a draft 27 games into a career is way too early, way too early. So last year's draft, based on getting Jaden alone, it's an A draft. You've got your franchise quarterback for the next 10 years. You had another, what, eight picks? If you end up getting out of the nine, if you end up getting three to four contributors and you've got one for sure, I think Newton and Sanristil, we'll see about Sanrestil.

There's an issue. I still think Luke is going to be a contributor. He's been a contributor as a kickoff returner at the very least. I think McGee is the replacement for Wagner. I think he's actually really flashed as he's gotten more time. Yeah, I don't, you know, and as far as this year's draft, I mean, are we kidding? Seriously? Like, how could you possibly at this point know for sure about any of these players? Two weeks ago, Amos and Kroski Merritt are going to be the two greatest draft choices of 2025.

And now what? It's just too early on that stuff. I can't get last year out of my mind. I'm sorry. It's hard for me to get 12 regular season wins, two road playoff wins, and 60 minutes from the Super Bowl out of my mind in my evaluation of Adam Peters and Dan Quinn.

And Jaden Daniels, I guess we have to evaluate now and figure out whether or not they made a mistake there. PTSD. Look at what Snyder did to all of us. I'm telling you. Something, Mel. else, man. Did a number. It really is. It really is.

Some of it, too, is just, it's such an era, sports fan-wise, of recency bias. Do you think that that was the case 20 years ago, 25 years ago? It's like every week is a referendum, it would seem, for people on players and coaches. You're right. And because people have more resources to make judgments,

they all think they're general managers. There's no doubt. More than ever. It's what makes this so great. It's why, you know, I answered a question yesterday from somebody about, you know, one of those, you and I get this all the time. Why don't you talk more about the caps, you know, on your shows? And I'm like, you know, it's just really hard to talk about hockey on a day-to-day basis unless it's, you know, the playoff game. and there's nothing else really going on.

And they said, why? And I said, well, everybody thinks they are a football coach or general manager. In towns like ours, everybody thinks they know football. And by the way, a lot of people know a lot more about football than they know about anything else. I'm not suggesting that everybody's a dope. But nobody really in our market knows hockey. Like, it's really hard to pregame hockey. It's easier, I guess, to post-game it, but we don't have conversations, and no one really enjoys conversations because they don't even know what we're talking about.

I don't know what I'm talking about. If we start talking about, you know, Caps Canadians on Saturday night, the Caps really need to play more of that, you know, one-three-one trapping, you know, defense. And they got to, they got to do, the puck's got to move from, we don't have those conversations about hockey. Football? Oh, my God. Cover two, cover three. Are we going man? Are we going man under?

Are we going with zone behind? What are we doing? And then after the game, I mean, everybody's got the answers. I mean, I'm looking in the mirror right now. I think I have the answers after every game. And you just don't get that. So the weekly referendum is all a part of that because people, as you said, believe they think they know for sure what they're looking at.

That's what the warning is, though, because what some people are saying about Adam Peters and Dan Quinn and Jaden Daniels, just two weeks ago, they were saying the complete opposite, or the end of last year, the complete opposite. And three or four weeks, the whole world view of our football team could change. Although I don't think it's going to change much on Monday night. We'll get to Tom's prediction on Chief's Skins Monday night with Marcus Marcos. Marriota at the helm when we come back after these words from a few of our sponsors. So guys, I introduced you to a really good product a while back, and I want to remind everybody, for those of you that have been wearing the same boxer briefs, the same any kind of underwear

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with as fans of the team during his career in the NFL? The answer to that is I am concerned about that. I am concerned that this is going to be an annual thing. You know, it's been an annual thing with guys like Joe Burrow, elite quarterback, Lamar Jackson, elite quarterback. It's rare, actually, when you think about it that you end up with quarterbacks that don't miss games. It's a rough league. I mean, even Patrick Mahomes remember missed, you know, a playoff game or two in Kansas City.

But this was my number one concern coming in. I wrote this a couple weeks ago that I think this could be what we all need to get used to. with Jane Daniels. Yeah. Is availability at times, which emphasizes the significant importance of making sure their backup quarterback is up to the test. Yeah. It raises the significance and the importance of having a strong backup.

Yeah. And they have a strong backup, and they've got the perfect fit backup. And I actually, and I said this on the show, last night after Souter was done. I'd love to see them really go heavy dual threat attack with Mario'd. And I think they can. I think, you know, he is a good runner even at 31 going on 32 years old. He is an excellent zone read quarterback. I'm going to have to, you know, I should have asked Steve to look into Kansas City a little bit, although he was a little bit buried this week. But we'll see whether or not Kansas City defensively is a team you can attack that way.

But I think Mario Deut is actually going to be incorporated more into the run game than even Jaden for two reasons. One, Jaden's brace in recent weeks. Number two is that Mario Dota really needs that to have success, more than Jaden needs it to have success. Jaden can get success in a lot of different ways. Marioad is not a dropback quarterback. He's not, you know, you're not going to put him back there and ask.

him to throw 40 times, you know, or to deliver over and over again on third and long like Jaden can do. So I'm looking forward to that. It could be a unique kind of game on Monday night. They are 12 and a half point underdogs at MyBooky. If you want to bet that game or any game, the Kevin Sheanshow.com slash my bookie promo code DC reload, DCR-E-L-A-D, and you'll get a 50% cash bonus, whether you're a new customer or an existing customer. Existing customers just log on and make a deposit and then use my promo code, DC Reload. But 12.5 point underdogs, this time last week, they were going to be a 5.5 point underdog. So you want to know what the difference between a healthy Jaden Daniels and Marcus Mariotta is at quarterback,

according to the odds makers, seven points. And seven points is probably an exaggeration because I think with the way Washington played on Sunday, if they had lost that game even with Jaden in it, the rest of the way, it probably would have gone to six and a half seven, especially with the way the Chiefs played as well. But there's a solid five to six point difference. between the two quarterbacks, according to the odds makers. So what do you see at this point here on Thursday morning? Because you won't be back until Tuesday.

What's your prediction? Well, I see carnage. I see devastation. I see a very good reason why there's such a big difference in the odds for the game. I think what you're on to something in that they make sure. sure that Marriota is part of a significant part of the run game, because

I think that the Chiefs, if he's not, the Chiefs are going to have a field day sacking him. I could see five sacks of Mario de game like this, and I think the only way to keep that pass rush

and the Blets that Spagnola might bring is to basically run Marriota a lot more to keep them off. If they don't do that, I think it's a four or five-sac game and a 31 to 21-21 loss for the commanders. What was the final score? Sorry, I missed that. 31-21. 31. So you've got Washington covering, the points right? Yes, I do have them covering. Okay. I'm actually looking at my bookie right now, updated. It's now a 13-point spread.

They're a 13-point underdog. If they don't do what you suggested, and I mean, you know, it really makes sense because I think if they put them back there to throw a lot, I mean, they're just going to come after them. Well, this is a game in which it is a total mismatch, Offense Chiefs, Defense, Washington. I mean, those that didn't get a chance yet

to listen to Steve Souter's breakdown of the Dallas film, He just basically said, oh, I informed him that Dorrance Armstrong was out for the year. He didn't know that. And his reaction was priceless. He's like, oh, no. He's like, oh, they're cooked. The season's cooked on defense. Because Armstrong really was playing probably better than anybody this year defensively.

He was an Adam Peters signing last year. I just want to remind people of that. he doesn't see any fixes. He just, he's like, I don't, you know, the best thing they can do is just really try to send as many, you know, people to try to get after the quarterback. So the best defense, the rest of the way, is going to be their offense. And they've got to run the football. They have to run the football. I'm actually wondering if Chris Rodriguez could be a part of something on Monday night.

You know, his health, he did play last week. But he played more in the latter part of the game. I don't want to discount. I'm not bailing on Kroski Merritt after the last two games. I'm not. I still like him. I don't like him like some of you liked him. I mean, there were just a few games in there.

But I do like his running style. They've got to run the football, and they've got to run the football 11 on 11 with the quarterback being a part of it. And I think it will be on Monday night. And that's the formula. You've got to be able to run the football, possess the football, and score because you're not giving up. Stephen Specter was on with me yesterday, Tommy, from Kansas City. Stephen said basically at this point with Kansas City's offense being the best it's been in a few years with the receivers all healthy,

if you don't score as an opponent, you know, 28 or more, you're not winning the game. And I tend to kind of agree with that. I think the Chiefs right now are poised to go on a massive run. I think they're going to be in the Super Bowl again. I mean, that's not a leap. But they are a four and three football team. Yeah, Monday night's going to be tough. Very tough.

I wanted to mention real quickly, I did watch the Wizards game last night. Yes, they opened their season last night. They lost the Bucks 133 to 120. I mean, in the first half, at one point, it's like they had 12 threes, Milwaukee did. And I'm like, oh my God, this is going to be another one of those years where you're going to turn it on and a team's going to be threatening 80 plus points in a half. They had 72. The Wizards worked at it. They got it back to seven.

The player that I mentioned last year, out of the young players that I liked the most was George. He's their best player. And I think Trey Johnson, who I really wanted them to pick, had a great rookie debut last. night. He can stroke it. You saw that at Texas. He's just got a great stroke. He can shoot. And that's a good thing they have a guy like that. Yeah, he had 16 in his first game. He was four for eight from behind the arc, five for 11. He had five rebounds. He was active. I really liked him. He's a little bit loose with the ball as a ball handler. We'll see how that kind of moves forward. But Kaishan George is my favorite of all of the players of, you know,

pre this year in terms of the draft. I think he's the most versatile, and I think he's got a chance to become, you know, an all-star player. Not a top five player in the league, which you have to find one of those, but I think an all-star. I think he, you know, among Sar and Carrington, Kulabali, all of them, I think George is going to be the best of the players that they've drafted in the first two years of the rebuild.

before this year. Tray Johnson may end up being the absolute best, but I really like George. But it's going to be a long year in terms of the standings. Now, you wanted to talk about the performance last night. By the way, the first night of kind of the TNT crew, Ernie, Kenny, Chuck, and Shaq on ESPN. It actually was entertaining as hell. They were great. The ESPN had the double-heter last night. But the Spurs last night crushed the Mavericks behind Victor Wembe Nyama's 40 points, 15 rebounds, three block shots. People he's 7 foot five, almost, and he is a highlight reel. He's going to change the game, I think, here, Tommy, in the next five to ten years. I think he is. I think we're looking at a guy who, if he stays healthy, could be in the conversations we always have about

the greatest players of all time. I think he's that impactful. And what's remarkable after this, think about this. The World Series is about to start with a player on the Dodgers who a lot of people think may be the greatest baseball player of all time, and he's from Japan. We may be looking at right now, one of the great basketball players, a long way to go, obviously. But I think the potential is there of all time, and he's French. Yeah, there's so many good French players in the NBA, but he is different. His timing, well, first of all, he's not just, you know, almost 7-5. He's got an outrageous wingspan. He is such... A lot of people think he's bigger than 7-5. Well, whatever he is, it is so overpowering.

and it's so obvious he is a different physical being on the court when you watch him play. Janus, to me, always, you know, in the last, you know, five, six, seven years, it's like, wow, nobody can physically stop this man. He's just overpowering. Wembe Nyama's, you know, height and length is really, well, we've never seen it before. I mean, I don't know what Ralph Samson was in terms of long arms. It's funny, when I watch Wembe Nama, it reminds me of what Ralph Sampson thought he could become. Because Wembe Nama is a really good ball handler and a really good shooter.

And Ralph, if you recall at 7-4, could really handle the ball and could shoot it, you know, facing the basket. But back then, you didn't think of players that way until he got teamed with Hakeem Elijah won. You know, in Houston, and he was more of a full. forward than he was a center because Hakeem was a true center. But Wembe Nama, man, he's worth the watch. There's no doubt, and he just looks different than everybody else.

Defensively, offensively, he dribbles a lot. The one thing that I was going to say, because I watched a lot of that game, sometimes I think he just really wants everybody to understand how skilled he is as a ball handler at 7-5. But sometimes I think he just dribbles too much. much and everybody is stagnant, but, man, game changer.

That'll change. That'll change over the years. Once people, I think you're right, I think he probably wants to show everybody, look, I'm just not a big, a big guy. Yeah. Okay, I can handle myself on the court. And you're right, he had a couple of highlights last night that were remarkable dribbling and shooting possessions of the ball for a guy that big. He just wants to show off. Yeah. Cooper Flagg.

10 points, 10 rebounds in his debut for Dallas. Oh, the other thing that I was going to say about Wembe Nama is Anthony Davis guarding him. I mean, that's the thing. That's the picture you have to look at. Anthony Davis is, you know, 610 with a big wingspan. You know, 611 big wingspan. You know, we have referred to Anthony Davis as a physical freak, you know, over the years. And he's dwarfed by Wembe Nama.

I mean, could not come. come close to checking him. One of the better defensive players of the last six, seven years, eight years, nine years, whatever it's been now. How long has Anthony Davis been in the league? It's been a decade, at least at this point. He's the 2014 draft, whatever it is. That is an absolute picture that you have to look at is Anthony Davis guarding Wembeñama.

It looks like JV against varsity. It's wild. All right, Tommy will have his World Series prediction when we come back after these words from a few of our sponsors. All right, Tommy, tell us about Shelley's. Shelly's backroom at 1331 F Street, Northwest in the district is the place to go for a lot of different pleasures in your life, a place to go for, obviously, for great cigars, you know. I mean, the best you can find anywhere at Shelley's Backroom, they always have the top 25 cigars by Cigar-O-Fishinato on hand. They have a great drink menu.

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So Chauncey Billups, the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers. A Hall of Famer, I might want to point out. Was arrested in Oregon early this morning. It was part of a separate deal from the Terry Rozier arrest, but related in that it's an illegal gambling case linked to an illegal poker operation tied to the mafia, according to ABC News. You know, how much money did Chauncey Billups make in his career? Yeah, it doesn't, yeah, it doesn't appear to be.

Right. How much money did Chauncey Billups make in his career? How much money is he making as a head coach right now? I want to see what his salary is as the head coach. All right, he's making $2 million a year as the head coach. I mean, but it's not about the money. You know that. I know, I know.

It's not about the money. It's the juice. It's the juice. Speaking of the juice, the Dodgers are minus 247 favorites. Pretty hefty favorite over Toronto. The comeback at my bookie is plus 198. So who are you picking and why? Well, you know, I always tell people I don't root for a team.

I root for the people. I meet in this business. So I really want to root for Stan Kastin, the team president and part owner of the Dodgers. who was here in Washington for five years. But I really want to root for the Blue Jays because these days I root for anything Canadian when it comes to, you know, going up against the United States. Why?

Sorry. What do you mean why? I don't have time to even explain why. So I'm also rooting. Why don't you move to Canada then? Why don't you move? Because it's too cold. I'll be there in a second, but it's so cold.

Oh, God. You're the worst. So, I mean, I'm rooting for the Blue Jays as well, but the Dodgers are going to win this. They're starting pitching. It's just too strong to go with their lineup. The Dodgers and six. Don't write me, people, about this. Honestly, I'm going to let this fly, and you guys can have at it with him. Just because of what he said, I am really rooting for the good old USA and the Los Angeles Dodgers with Blake Snell tomorrow night. And then they'll go with that other guy that had that unbelievable outing, which we didn't talk about.

Yamamoto, that pitching performance last week that he had. Man, that's a tough first two for the Blue Jays. And the Blue Jays have, right? They have home field advantage. It'll go two, three, two in Toronto, three in L.A., and then two back in Toronto. All right. We got to run. I'll be back tomorrow.

Jay Gruden, smell test tomorrow. No pick, by the way, on tonight's Vikings Chargers game or any of the college games. But I'll have picks tomorrow. See you, Tommy. See you, boss.