The Kevin Sheehan Show - Jayden's Newest Fan
Episode Date: September 17, 2024Kevin and Thom today with plenty more on the Commanders' win Sunday over the Giants including Thom's latest crush....the quarterback. Kevin did an "Upon Further Review" of Jayden Daniels' sacks and mi...ssed opportunities before the boys turned to the Kirk Cousins-led Atlanta comeback last night in Philadelphia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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The Kevin Cheon Show.
Here's Kevin.
Hertz gets hit as he throws and intercepted.
Picked up by Jesse Bates.
There are no flags.
And with that, Arthur Blanks, Atlanta Falcons are going to get out of Philadelphia with a win.
That was the final play of Monday Night Football.
See what I did there, I did not give you the Kirk Cousins game-winning touchdown pass, the You-K-K-Noh-W game-winning
touchdown pass.
I gave you the Jalen Hertz Interception that ended an incredible Monday night game with really
an improbable final few minutes.
That's it on that game for now.
We will wait for the second segment to have a more in-depth conversation about the Eagles
in our division.
and certainly a bit on you know who who led the Falcons down the field
for another one of his many now game-winning fourth quarter drives.
Tommy's here, I am here.
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I'll save some of the tweets on the game.
last night for the next segment.
We're going to start with our own team.
And Tommy, the result of last night's game has Washington in first place in the NFC East
after two games because they would win the tiebreaker with Philly and Dallas because
they've actually played a division game and won a division game.
But you were there Sunday, and I actually played your question on radio yesterday.
You asked Dan Quinn a very good question during the post-game presser.
What did you think?
I want to get your impressions, and then I'll give you kind of my second revision of my game take,
or as I like to refer to it, upon further review.
Well, you know, I fall in love very easily.
You love Daniels.
I do.
This is the first time I've seen him in person.
Okay.
and his composure on the field is off the chart.
He never seems too big for him.
He never seems like he never has happy feet.
He never seems like a guy who, oh my God, what am I going to do?
The house is falling down around me.
He never has that scene that you often see with rookies.
You know, he teaches, he blew me away, Kevin.
You know, he's the real deal.
If they can protect him, they've got themselves the quarterback.
I didn't get to see him watch many throws on Sunday,
and there may be different reasons for that.
But his composure and his command of the game and his running ability is for real.
and people should be excited about Jane Daniels.
I just worry that, I mean, he's surrounded by a bad team.
I've also come to that conclusion.
They're a bad team.
They're not good.
He's good, and he might make them better, but they're not very good.
They don't add up.
The roster does not add up to a good team, but Jane Daniels, God Almighty,
He is going to win that rookie of the year award.
I think he's the favorite right now after the first two weeks.
And he's moved into the favorite for offensive rookie of the year.
I'll look at my bookie here in a second.
You know, so funny.
Like there's this old adage that the easiest person to sell is a salesperson.
And you're not a salesperson.
You're not.
And yet you do fall, hook, line, and sinker a lot for things.
like you did with RG3.
By the way, I did two.
I mean, who didn't in the first, you know, many months?
What's different about your infatuation with Jaden Daniels versus going back 12 years
where you predicted shock and awe in the opener?
You said from that initial, you know, rookie mini-camp press conference
when he looked up at the sky and waited for the planes to go,
over top and then continue his answer because he was so helpful with the media people.
You, I mean, you were smitten from the jump.
What's different do you think about then and now?
Well, I was impressed with RG3 in part before he ever took the feel for the first game.
And it wasn't just because of the press conference.
You know, back then, I was still closer to,
people in the locker room players and then I am now I don't have that kind of connection
anymore I'll readily admit that but I had just heard how impressed the veterans were with the
way he handled himself and I hadn't heard veterans talk about a rookie like they did about
RG3 in training camp and that's what kind of told me that it was something special combine
that with the idea that Mike Shanahan was an offensive genius who was going to have, you know,
draw up an offense that was going to make the most.
I didn't predict exactly what that offense would be.
But I thought that he was probably in the best opportunity, the best hands with Shanahan.
I was impressed with the signing of Pierre Garzone.
I thought he was a terrific receiver, better than anybody they've got on the roster now.
That's for sure.
I didn't know if he'd be as good as he was,
but I thought he'd be pretty good.
So that was then, and I was more impressed then with RG3
and the shock and all, because not just of him,
because I thought they had a chance to be a good team.
You know, I thought they had a couple of pieces,
particularly Pierre Garsohn being the other piece
that would make them a good team.
I don't feel that way about this.
I haven't felt that way at all in training camp.
But, you know, I don't know what it is.
If I see a guy, I know this maybe runs counter to what you think,
but if I see a guy in person as opposed to on TV,
I can get a totally different impression.
And that was the impression I had watching him on Sunday
while the chaos was going on around him and him never seeming that he was feeling the chaos at all.
He is the current favorite at my bookie to win offensive rookie of the year.
He's plus 250.
Marvin Harrison Jr. is plus 260 and Caleb Williams is now plus 310.
Malik Neighbors is plus 730.
And I'm thinking right now about firing in on Malik Neighbors for Offensive Rookie of the Year
because I think when it comes to receivers, when you see one, it can be very early on.
you know it when he's got it and that kid has it.
He's the next great one out of LSU.
Again, I mean, it's just the LSU receiver train just never stops.
Yeah, I mean, you know, they've got that Heisman ad out that Jaden's in
and he's got like one line from it and RG3s in it.
I was watching it the other day and I'm like, God,
they are two totally different personalities.
Jaden's personality is his game.
You know, it's the poise, it's the calm, it's the, you know, it's that confidence that he has out there.
RG3 actually has personality and charisma.
He's got many a personal flaw, that's for sure, a personality flaw, but he can act.
And Jalen, Jaden can't.
And I'm fine with that.
He was about to say Jalen Hertz can't.
And Jaden can't.
But that's okay.
Because kind of like Tiger Woods, I'm not comparing him to Tiger Woods.
But Tiger Woods is like his game is his charisma, is his personality.
It's not his interviews.
It's not his personality off the course.
You know?
He's not charismatic in a press conference, I can tell you that.
No.
He's not, you can tell right now, I don't, it may be, he'll get more comfortable as he gets more.
I'm sure he will.
Yeah, but right now that's not his thing.
You can tell he'd rather be doing anything than doing that.
RG3 loved those moments where the cameras were there and the reporters were in front of him.
But yeah, I mean, he's, I talked yesterday on this show in the opening segment before I got to my whole game take.
I just said, look, through two games, I don't even want to get into the numbers.
There's a response that you have and that I've had with him for a while now.
And that is there's something unique and special about the way he plays and the way he kind of handles himself out there.
Now, you can actually shed light on something.
I had a caller yesterday who was at the game who said he's talking a lot of trash during the TV timeout.
It's like over in the Giants' huddle, you know, jawing back and forth.
I didn't see that because I wasn't at the game.
Was that something you noticed?
I didn't notice.
If that happened, I didn't notice that.
Yeah.
That's something I would be aware of moving forward, but no, I did not catch that at all.
Yeah, go ahead.
I mean, you know, that may be.
That may be part of his personality.
I didn't see it.
You know, I didn't talk yet.
yesterday on the podcast about early, and I think prior to the fourth quarter, TV caught an on-the-field
conversation between Malik neighbors and Jane Daniels. They were yucking it up on the field together
while the game was going on. And by the way, the game was, you know, tied or a three-point game,
because that's essentially what it was the entire way. A lot of people, you know, on social media,
had an issue with that. I would assume most of those people are 50 years of age or older.
I, because I'm predisposed to liking this kid a lot and believing in him, I don't know, man.
Today it's like the exchanging of uniforms, the taking the pictures, a guy who just got his ass kicked after the game is yucking it up with the opposing team.
That would have never happened obviously in the 70s, 80s, probably not even the 90s.
But we've lived with this now for a decade and a half, probably two decades.
Maybe it's not the same thing.
You've got to remember players, and I'm not saying this about Jane Daniels because he had a relationship that went back to college with Malik.
But generally, players are connected as teammates, as fellow agent clients, and as union members.
Those are their connections.
What order would you put that in?
You know, I'm going to give them the benefit of doubt that their teammates are more important than their fellow agent clients.
Yeah, and a lot more important than, oh, he's a fellow union member.
Yeah.
Because we found out in one of the more recent player union votes that, like, 25% of the players actually voted on an issue.
I forget what the issue was, but it was like it was alarming at how, um,
disinterested most of the players were in some of the union-related issues.
But, no, I get that.
I get that.
So what did you think beyond Jaden of the game?
I don't think the roster is very good, just like I've always thought.
I think that, but Brian Robertson had a great game, and Echler played well, and that looks
very promising.
But I think in part, and I'm not diminishing.
Robin Robinson. I always thought that last year they didn't use him enough and that he is
the ball and is capable of having big games. But his running game, the whole running game
is going to benefit from Jane Daniel's ability to run. Okay, that's going to benefit from that.
So I think that that comes into play as well. Other than that, you know, Zach Hertz was available.
He had some nice plays with Zach Hurts.
Terry McCorn caught six passes for like 22 yards.
Yeah, fans get upset about that.
I just can't get worked up over that.
They didn't punt once in the game.
I know.
And they didn't score a touchdown once.
No, they didn't.
But it wasn't because, you know, the lack of Terry production,
they had penalties galore in the red zone.
Right.
I know that.
I know that, but...
Look, I'm going to say this about Terry,
because I have said a lot about Terry McLaren
over the last couple of years
in this wide receiver conversation.
For those of you who think Terry McLorne's an elite receiver,
you don't watch the rest of the league.
You just don't watch the rest of the league.
He's a good receiver.
He's a number one receiver on a team like Washington's team.
He is their best threat.
He's not an elite wide receiver.
He's not a top tier.
He's not a second tier.
and there's so many guys coming out each year, it's getting hard to count them all.
In one of the recent preseason rankings of receivers, I remember, we talked about this,
and he wasn't in the top 20, and on the others receiving votes, essentially ended up like
this is a 24th best receiver.
That's about right now for Terry.
Honestly, it's somewhere best case 16, 15, but that's really stretching it.
He is right there among the top half of the league.
league receivers. He wasn't the best receiver on the field Sunday, right? No, Malik Neighbors was. I mean,
that's an elite receiver. You know, that kind of separation, that kind of ability after the
catch, he dropped a massive ball on fourth and four. And again, like I said yesterday, the number
one reason that Washington won this game was Graham Ganoe wasn't available to kick. And, you know,
you get some of those. And that's a bungling by the organization for the
Giants.
And I had a lot of you reach out to me to say, you crush Brian Dable, but that's not a
dable decision.
That's a general manager and a special teams coach decision.
How the fuck do you know whose decision that is?
I mean, that's ridiculous.
You think the head coach says, oh, you know, if they don't think we need a kicker,
then we don't need a kicker.
You think that's the way the head coach would do it?
You don't think a head coach if he thought he needed a kicker would be in the general
manager's office and say, get me a goddamn kicker today?
This from Hez on Twitter.
Brian Dable actually is a good coach, and he had nothing to do with the kicker decision.
That's on Joe Shane and the special teams coach, just like it would be on Adam Peters here.
No, it wouldn't.
It would be all of them together, but it's the head coach.
He's responsible for who's out there on game day and who's going to play.
He's with them all week.
He's getting the medicals.
Okay, so Adam Peters, Joe Shane would be involved and they'd know what was going on and maybe the coach would consult.
But whatever.
It was an organizational botch.
They knew he was hurt the day before.
You cannot go into a game the day of and know that you've got only one kicker and you know he's hurt.
Like I said yesterday, Tommy, it's one thing to go into a game with a healthy kicker who gets hurt.
That's bad luck, okay?
You don't go, you don't activate two kickers.
You should have a contingency plan, which, by the way, I told a story yesterday,
and I'm going to, you know this story, but I told it, and hold on, I'm looking for the tweet.
But anyway, bottom line is the Giants botched it, and they really botched a chance to win the football game,
and Washington benefited from that.
A hundred percent they benefited from that.
So yesterday, because I was talking about the Giants and the kicking contingency thing,
it reminded me of the time that you know I told you about this,
when Ron Rivera hung up on me during the recording of an interview.
Do you remember?
Yes.
So I decided, it's too late now.
I probably would have said to you, should I tell this story or not?
But now that he's gone and we're a year removed from him coaching and he's doing well,
and I said some nice things about him because my experience with him during the season was positive.
But for those that missed it, basically they played Seattle in 2021.
There was a fourth down and three they were up eight.
They had lost their kicker to injury Joey Sly during the game.
And I asked them simply, to teams typically have a contingency?
plan for losing a kicker in a game.
He got really upset with the question, and he hung up on me.
Now, we were recording.
It would have been interesting had we been doing it live.
I think he probably wouldn't have hung up on me if we had been doing it live, but he
hung up on me.
And by the way, we reconnected.
We finished the interview.
It was all kumbaya.
He apologized.
I said, sorry, you misunderstood.
and we had had a good relationship that whole year,
and it continued to be a decent relationship the rest of the year.
Of course, they didn't come back to us the next year, which was interesting.
But anyway, I had somebody reach out to me to remind me that the issue was,
and Ron never said this to me, the issue was that Tress Way,
that they didn't have a holder for Tressway who was a left-footed kicker.
And that was part of the explanation.
I vaguely remember that being part of the conversation,
but let me just say, that's not a good answer.
Like, the kickers are doing nothing during the week.
Hey, if our kicker, Joey Sly, were to get injured,
who's going to kick for us if we need to make a kick at the end of the game?
Well, we've got a punter who at Oklahoma actually kicked field goals in a season
when a kicker got hurt.
So he'll do it.
well, he's left-footed, so who's going to hold?
Oh, well, we need somebody who's better at holding.
Well, we'll have him do it, and we'll practice it for five minutes a week just in case.
Like, I think that's the way, I think that's the right answer.
But anyway.
You know, it's funny that, you know, I mean, that coaches would treat the field goal kicker before game as an afterthought.
Since so many games come down to field goals, it's kind of a lot.
insane?
Insane.
It's like they, look, they had their punter out there, and he tried an extra point.
He missed badly.
They went for two after the next two touchdowns.
But really, to me, given that Graham Ganoe was banged up and had a groin issue,
it's the kickoffs that were the risk.
So you should have had a contingency plan for your punter to kick off.
You know, somebody else to kick off.
So he wasn't out there.
Remember, Austin Eckler
regarding the opening kickoff.
That's part of why he got hurt trying to chase him down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, real quickly, because hold on, I'm looking for this.
This came from Bernie, Benny.
Benny wrote, you shouldn't have let him off the hook.
You should have told him you have to answer that question
or I'm not going to do the interview.
And then do you remember,
You do remember that I did kind of, and I told you this, because I think after that incident,
like I sent, you know, I sent Sean the recording of it.
He listened, he's like, okay, I'll fix this.
He's had a bad day.
It's been a long day.
You just caught him at the wrong time.
I'm like, that's fine.
Everybody's got a bad day.
And we ended up talking, but he felt strongly that he didn't want to answer that question.
And so I decided, because we still had another six weeks left in the scene.
And remember, they had won a couple of games in a row.
Remember, they got to six and six that year that I just decided I wouldn't ask it.
And, you know, when we continued to record again, do you think I should have asked it?
No.
No, no, no, no.
You're not there to create a confrontation.
Contrary to the image of the media that, you know, at least the media that I usually deal with,
they just want answers.
you know and if somebody's not going to give you the answer you can't force them to give you the answer
right but the thing about the context of that was I had said in the shows leading up to it
I'm really curious as to what the plans are if teams have a contingency plan for losing a
healthy kicker during the game and so the expectation was I would ask him that and you should have
that you should have announced that, hey, everybody, guess what?
I just spoke to Ron Rivera, and I'm not so curious anymore.
I think everyone would have read between the lines on that.
I'll tell you what, though, you know, we've had in, we have, we have some sensitive coaches.
Coaches, for whatever reason, and Dan Quinn, I'm not saying that about Dan Quinn,
or anybody in the organization right now, benefit of the doubt, and they're doing great so
far. It really is amazing to me when you, you know, do what we do, when you have some of these
conversations sometimes, and you find out, wow, I mean, for what you do, your skin should,
your skin should be so much thicker. You know, we've seen this, we've seen this with Dionne Sanders.
I mean, Dionne Sanders is one of the most revered, but simultaneously polarizing,
figures in sports as a player for all of those years. This guy in Colorado basically tells
people, yeah, you're not allowed to ask me those questions. Like, he's so thin-skinned.
And what's amazing about that situation is his team stinks. I mean, like he's got some
pro prospects. They won four games last year. They're probably not going to win more than four or five
this year. It's so funny.
I used to be such a Dion guy.
But this stuff that he's trying to pull out there,
I'm wondering if he'll even be the coach when his sons move on.
Part of me thinks he's done this strictly to coach his sons
and get him to the NFL in the best possible situation.
That wouldn't surprise me.
You know, the only thing about Dion is people who have played with him,
rave about him.
Love them as a teammate.
Yeah, including baseball players.
Right.
When he played baseball, I mean, it was a remarkable athlete.
He belongs in a conversation among the greatest athletes we've ever seen.
He was a very good baseball player.
He and Bo Jackson.
Bo Jackson was a better baseball player, though.
I don't know.
He was pretty good.
Bo Jackson was a multi-time all-star, wasn't he?
I don't know if he was a multi-time all-star.
I'm not saying you're wrong.
I'm just saying I wouldn't just jump to that conclusion without doing some investigation.
No, I, he, good, good call.
He was an all-star once.
Finished 10th in the MVP race in 89 when he had, oh my God, I mean, Bo Jackson,
he really was just one of the sickest athletes of all time.
What a shame that he had that, you know, career-ending hip injury.
But in 89 with the Royals, he had 32 homers, 105 RBIs, hit 256, had an OPS,
8.05. Wow. I mean,
I mean, remember, Dion Sanders played
I know on the same day. NFL football on Sunday and the World Series at the same time.
Yeah, Dion did not make an all-story game. I think Bo, yeah, I think just looking at
its stats, Beau's considered to be a better baseball player than Dion was.
Yeah, he probably is. But as far as a football player,
Dion is definitely in the conversation of the greatest corners of all time.
And I think that Bo Jackson would certainly be in the conversation.
Some probably would have him in the conversation already of one of the greatest players of all time,
not just running backs of all time, if his career hadn't ended so abruptly.
I'm trying to think, like who, I'm pulling up one of those lists,
and I always go to the Gilbrant list
because he was such a good NFL historian.
Let's see where he's got Dion.
He's got Dion number one.
He's got Dion is the greatest corner of all time.
Rod Woodson, 2, Mike Haynes 3.
I think Mike Haynes...
I can't argue with that list.
Yeah.
Mike Haynes, for me, was during the 70s and 80s,
during the 80s.
He was the best corner in the game.
And remember, he did not play
against the Redskins in the 80s.
83 regular season, nor did Marcus Allen.
Marcus Allen was hurt.
Mike Haynes wasn't even on the Raiders.
They traded for him at the trade deadline in 83.
Washington beat the Raiders in a great regular season game, 3530 in October of 83.
And then Haynes and Allen were in the game in the Super Bowl, and it made a difference
as the Raiders crushed Washington in Super Bowl 18.
You know, who should be on that list?
Is Mel Blunt on that list?
Yeah, he's six.
Mel Blunt should be on that list.
He's six.
Daryl Green's eight on this list.
Okay.
I think I would agree with that.
Yeah.
Top ten.
Yeah, he is right there like around.
He's always been, you know, a top ten-ish, not a top five-ish corner.
We've talked about this, that the guy who played takes Sammy Ball out of the conversation.
And actually, Sammy Ball wouldn't even be in the top three or four or five.
No one's going to put him there.
But in the conversation about greatest ever at positions, the player who played for this organization, the Washington organization, that is consistently ranked the highest at his position of all time, more than any other player that ever played in the franchise, is Ken Houston's ranking as a safety.
He is consistently ranked as a top three, four, five safety of all time.
actually, Gil Brant's list has Ken Houston's second greatest safety behind Emlyn Tinell in NFL history.
And it's very rare when you see Houston outside of the top five.
No other player that's played for the franchise has ever been,
can be considered a top five player of all time at their position.
Ken Houston can be.
Yep.
And he-
Gentleman, too.
Super gentlemen.
I've spoken to him a number of times.
Great guy.
And he, remember, he had several years in Houston before he came here as a veteran player.
All right.
Anyway.
So a win is a win.
I tell you why, the crowd was good.
The commander's fan showed up.
The whole visitor's side, bottom bowl, the visitor side was all blue,
but that's not particularly unusual.
You didn't see, I mean, I thought the crowd was good.
I thought the commander's fans made a good showing, particularly for a Giants game.
And it was a good atmosphere all the way around.
Yeah.
Now, I didn't go.
I had several people who were there for every single game.
I always have three people in particular, but one in particular that really I think understands crowds and the whole thing and has some perspective.
he said he thought it certainly wasn't a takeover, but it was more blue than he was expecting,
and that there was one end of the end zone that it was actually kind of difficult,
which is why you saw Daniels up kind of really screaming and yelling and trying to get people to hear
at the line of scrimmage, which may have been part and parcel to some of those false starts.
Look, this is not a...
That wasn't the end where the press box is.
But that was mostly commanders fans.
Yeah, so it was the other end.
Let me just, I mean, look, our stadium has been the worst over the last, you know, five, ten years in terms of takeovers.
Although so-five for Chargers games, it's a road game for them every time they play.
But you see this four times a week.
You see a takeover.
Steelers fans take over buildings.
They took over Atlanta last week.
Chiefs fans, Packers fans, Cowboys fans, Eagles fans, it happens in a lot of different stadiums.
There are very few NFL home field environments that can't be taken over.
Very few.
I'm not saying that they get taken over, but it's like Atlanta, L.A., Washington, you know, Jacksonville.
Let me say, Kevin.
that I've been to almost every home game during the quote takeover era.
Yeah.
I wouldn't qualify this as a takeover.
No.
I would qualify this as a normal experience for the Giants.
You just have to drive a couple of hour Giants fans down the road.
Your team has not fallen out of competition yet.
So I don't think it was an overwhelming amount.
to me it was a normal amount of visiting fans.
Here are the places.
I'm going to give you the list of the places that when the teams are good,
it's really hard for people to take over the building.
Seattle is one.
You know, when New Orleans is good, it's tough to take over the Superdome.
Lambo.
Minnesota's not easy to take over when they're good.
Philly's not easy to take over when they're good.
Kansas City isn't easy to take over when they're good. Denver, it's been a while.
I don't even know what to think of Denver anymore.
Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh.
Baltimore?
Buffalo.
Baltimore, not so much.
Yeah, not so much.
Buffalo.
I just gave you eight places that truly every single Sunday pretty much, if the team is competitive, is going to have.
have a home field advantage.
You know, it's a shame because home field in the NFL means so much.
You know, when you force offenses to go silent count, it's advantage, defense.
There's so many things going on there.
I wanted to say one thing real quickly before I get to, and I'll do this in the next
segment, and we'll save Kirk and your Frederick Fair for the last segment.
Can't wait for that.
The NFL weekend and just the NFL in general,
It's just incredible.
Like right now, and this is, I mean, I know we talk about this all the time,
but through two weeks, the undefeated teams in the NFC,
are Minnesota, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, and Seattle?
Who had that?
Nobody would be the answer.
In consecutive weeks to start the season,
we have seen the two biggest favorites on the board.
Week one was Cincinnati at home against New England,
Lose outright. Week two was Baltimore at home against Vegas. They lose outright. This league is
impossible to predict. It is just impossible. Great weekend, by the way, for underdogs.
Great weekend for big underdogs to win outright in addition to Baltimore losing to the Raiders.
Tampa Bay won as a big underdog. We saw last night that Atlanta won as an underdog.
New Orleans one is a big underdog.
You know, like I look to next week, and it's like, okay, who are the big underdogs?
The survivor pick up, the survivor pool, excuse me, at the Circa in Vegas, which I was a part of last year,
has lost 70% of its participants in the first two weeks of the season.
So here's some numbers.
Like Tampa Bay is a seven point favorite over Denver at home on Sunday.
So no one will think Denver has a chance.
Watch Denver win that game, although I watch Bo Nix, and he's terrible.
The Giants are six-point dogs at Cleveland.
The biggest, actually, you know what the biggest favorite on the board is?
Cincinnati, minus eight.
Minus eight over Washington is the biggest point spread.
So if we can get three straight weeks of the biggest underdog winning outright,
that would be a lot of fun.
It's just the NFL is impossible.
man. I mean, nobody
thought New Orleans, Minnesota,
Tampa, Seattle would start
2 and 0 and be the only undefeated teams.
Meantime, the Rams are 0-2.
The Rams season
is over. The injuries
are unbelievable.
Now they've lost Cooper
Cup for maybe most of the season.
Cup, Nakua, the offensive line, they're
banged up. In the AFC, both
Baltimore and Cincinnati
are 0-2.
Miami.
Yeah. Miami, my Super Bowl pick, I might want to point out.
You know, I'm not going to let you do this to me anymore.
Do you make me do this? And I don't know shit.
And I picked the dolphins to go to the Super Bowl, and they're already a dumpster fire with a quarterback who may or may not have to retire.
They signed Tyrod Taylor, I think.
You know, one quick thing, because I didn't have this on the agenda today, but I should have.
Bryce Young in Carolina getting benched for Andy Dalton.
I was reading this thing.
This guy's pretty good at ESPN.
His name's Ben Solac.
He does a good job of writing stories and doing research.
And there was this that I wanted to read from.
Bryce Young is listed at 510 and 204 pounds.
Stanford Steve told me on the show two years ago
after being on the field watching Alabama, the guy is no way 5-10, and there's no chance he's
190 pounds. He's 5-8 and 170. But anyway, Ben Solac writes for ESPN wrote this morning. Since 1970,
Tommy, as you know, the merger year, 178 quarterbacks have started at least 50 games in the league.
So 50 games being, look, if you start 50 games in the league, you ended up being kind of a
legitimate NFL quarterback, right? Only four of those 170.
were shorter than six feet.
Doug Flutie, Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, and Pat Hayden.
He writes, it's hard to play quarterback lacking height.
It affects everything about the operation, how you take dropbacks,
where you stand in the pocket, how you stand in the pocket,
which routes you throw, which routes you don't throw,
and how you're throwing motion works.
He's tiny.
He also would have been the number one pick for probably two-thirds of the teams in the league.
that were, that if they had to evaluate quarterbacks.
In fact, I'm not so sure if Houston had had number one that they wouldn't have taken him.
Although, you know, the story out of Carolina is Frank Reich, who was the coach, who Tapper hired to groom the new head, the new quarterback.
He actually wanted Stroud.
That's the most dysfunctional organization in the league now that Dan's gone in D.C.
is Teper and Carolina.
Absolutely.
You need an organization, man.
A young quarterback, especially one with a physical limitation.
Apparently he's off the charts bright, but you've got to have an organization.
All right.
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So I did go back and I focused really on Jaden Daniels because he's interesting to me. So is the
rest of the team. The defense, I mean, that should have been a takeaway for you coming,
leaving the stadium, just how alarmingly awful the defense has been in the first two games.
It's scary bad.
Their pass rush win rate right now is dipping.
I said I wouldn't even mention some of these numbers this week.
All you have to do is watch.
They're dead last in third downs.
It's a bad combination of can't stop the run, can't rush the passer, and can't cover.
So let me begin with this.
through two games, not judging, you know, in terms of definitive conclusion,
but their best defense is going to be their offense.
They've got to stay on the field.
By the way, you can run the football against Cincinnati.
New England did and Kansas City did.
Just, you know, well, plenty of time to talk about that game because it's a Monday night game.
But right now, it looks like their best chance to get stops is to not let the opponent's offense
take the field. All right. So I said yesterday I was going to look at Jaden's sacks. And then in looking
at his sacks, it actually opened up a couple of big missed opportunities. We talked about the double
move Noah Brown had and the missed opportunity there. That was a missed opportunity. But in going
through the sacks, so let me just go through them. He had five of them. Drive one, he took two sacks.
That first one was when Micah McFadden, number 41, was free on a blitz right up the middle.
He had Jaden Daniels for a 10, 11, 12-yard loss, and Daniels escaped.
This is what he did at LSU a lot.
He was able to escape big losses and turn them into much smaller losses,
even when he was sacked.
Good point by a couple of you on Twitter and a caller today to the show.
A couple of those he could have just thrown away.
and instead of taking a three-yard loss or a five-yard loss,
it would have been a zero-yard loss because he was outside the pocket.
Very good point, and I agree with that.
So the first sack, he does that escape act and turns a 10, 11, 12-yard loss
into a three-yard loss.
I have no idea who was at fault there.
Is it the quarterback for not identifying that the Giants are going to blitz?
Is it the center for not shifting the offensive line?
Is it Austin Echler, who's in the backfield,
who knows to pick up?
the fifth pass rusher, but doesn't?
I don't know. Is it the scheme that didn't account for it?
I just know that the Giants seem to disguise it well,
and there was a clear, free runner at the quarterback up the A-gap.
And, you know, sometimes the other team just does a really good job,
but they know who's at fault there.
You know, I'm sure there's a really good person on the internet
breaking down film of these games that'll tell you exactly what it is. I can't. I can just tell you
what happened. And it was, it looked like great disguise and that Washington had no idea that
they were coming with Michael McFadden up the A block, up the A gap. Drive number one again, second
nine at the giant 12. Jaden takes a five-yard loss on a play that looks like it's supposed to be a
quick throw out into the flat to Ben Sinit, the rookie tight end. I don't know why he didn't throw it.
Now, it wasn't going to be a big play, and the play seemed pretty much dead on arrival,
although I think Senate would have gotten two or three yards maybe, had Jaden thrown it right away.
The whole left side of the field, he's not even working. I mean, you can see that in Terry
McCorn. You know, he basically runs a few yards, turns around to look at the other side of the field.
I don't know why Jaden didn't throw it. Maybe that's on Jaden.
we're taking a five-yard loss in that particular spot when if he threw it,
Cinnett maybe gains three yards, so it's an eight-yard difference.
Or as he gets out of the pocket, maybe he can throw the ball out of bounds and save five yards.
But what that play was and why it seemed to be dead to Jaden, I don't know.
It looks like Ertz's option number two, and they're dropping in zone coverage.
That's something you saw in looking at the tape.
You know, a lot of zone coverage.
of bend don't break. And I thought that actually they were very good in being patient. I think
it's why you saw some of the long drives and some of the, you know, or the lack of big shots down
the field. Hard to take big shots down the field when you got, you know, deep help. And they're
essentially saying, we're not going to let you get down the field. The third sack was a third
and six at the giant 20 on the second drive. Look, this one is kind of easy. Jayden gets sacked and takes
his biggest lost yardage sack in two games, a seven-yard loss. Zakias gets mugged and there's no
call. It is clearly either number one or number two in his progression, and he gets knocked to
the ground by a defender. There should have been a flag, period. And there was nowhere else to go
with the football after that happened,
and Jaden couldn't escape that one
and took a seven-yard loss.
The third drive of the game
produces two plays back-to-back,
one A-Sack and one that may have been
the second biggest missed opportunity
of the game. And this is where I
think they are probably
and actually, Dan Quinn
had a sound bite yesterday where he talked about
Jaden has to be dual threat
outside of the pocket too,
meaning once he gets outside of the pocket, he still has to have pass as an option.
But let me first tell you about the fourth sack.
First and 10 at their own 18.
He's pressured.
He scrambles back for a one-yard loss.
He's looking for Terry.
That's his number one.
But there's safety help over the top.
Now, I guess he could have thrown it to the outside shoulder of Terry
and have it be incomplete or have Terry make an incredible catch.
but what the opportunity there is is for him to get to McCaffrey.
I had somebody call me yesterday and say,
Luke McCaffrey's missing in action.
Actually, he wasn't.
He was on the field and he was open a couple of times.
And Jaden didn't pull the string on that one.
He certainly had an opportunity and had enough time to work back to McCaffrey running
across her.
And McCaffrey's got a linebacker on him.
It's a mismatch.
and there's open space.
So he took a one-yard loss when he scrambled back towards the line of scrimmage.
And it's the next play, which isn't the next sack or the fifth sack,
that is, I guarantee you, top three on the list for Cliff Kingsbury,
Tevita Pritchard, David Blow and the staff in terms of sitting down with Jaden and saying,
you've got to keep your eyes down the field when you start to move.
The next play after a sack,
second and 11 at the 17. He goes back to pass, and this is the play Tommy he got hurt on.
When he scrambled, it was actually second and 13, excuse me. So that other...
Right, and he ran for 14 yards. He ran for 14 yards. He got the wind knocked out of him.
It looked like a pretty, you know, severe rib shot, you know, on the replay.
Yeah, it did.
Once he starts back towards the line of scrimmage, extending the play, getting out of the pocket,
Luke McCaffrey is wide open, downfield by himself.
And Jaden didn't look at it, or if he did, for some reason, he didn't throw it.
It didn't look like he really looked at it.
And this is the second, you know, he had the one last week to Terry on the movie,
he didn't throw it.
He's had some in the pocket where he didn't throw it like last week on the play that he got hit and he fumbled on.
these are all things that are fine for the second week, the second game.
In fact, Quinnin talking about this, I know he was talking about this play,
guarantee you he's talking about this play, that he's got to be dual threat,
he's got to continue to have pass as an option when he starts to extend the play.
That play is 50 yards, if not an 87-yard touchdown pass.
I don't really know what McCaffrey's speed is once he gets it.
two defenders who essentially went with, I think it was Terry.
So that is number one right now.
I would bet you with them.
It's like you got to hang in there a little while longer when you're in the pocket to get
through the progressions.
And when you do start to scramble to extend the play, you've got to keep your eyes
down the field because I think we all know as football fans.
When you see the quarterbacks, the really good quarterbacks that can really extend plays,
there are plays that are much more open after they've extended it because it's hard to cover that long in the secondary.
And he missed that one big time.
And then on the last drive, it's the first drive of the second half.
It's second eight at the giant nine.
There's an opportunity, I think, for him to throw to Diami Brown.
I really do.
I think there's a decent chance if that ball's out quickly.
early and he leads
Diami Brown who beats the defender
right off the line of scrimmage.
He didn't throw it in time.
Actually, that's not the sack. The sack was
the play before. I'm talking about the play that followed.
Play that followed, he got to Diami late
and threw it late and it was incomplete out of the
back of the end zone. I thought he could have thrown
that earlier. Early. The other one
is maybe an opportunity
to throw Terry. I think it's Terry open in the back of the end
zone and said he scrambles for
a short loss.
In fact, it was a zero-yard gain, ultimately.
He got back to the line of scrimmage.
Overall, the net net here is, I don't know how many he was at fault for.
You know, maybe the second one where he didn't throw it to Senate.
The third one, there's a penalty.
The first one, I have no idea.
The fourth one, he does have McCaffrey open.
I think that's him.
I think he's got to throw it.
The last one, it's if he could have thrown it.
But the next play, I think he had Diami Brown if he lets it go quickly.
just some interesting stuff in watching the All-22.
You really don't see it on the TV tape.
And again, I'm not an expert.
Like, if we had Cooley doing this, he'd really be able to tell.
And I'm going to try to put him to work here soon.
He's just got a hellish week because I talked to him the other days moving into a new place.
But, yeah, a lot of good, much more good than bad, just some missed opportunities.
and I think that's probably what they're saying.
I mean, Quinn kind of said it yesterday.
There are just some missed opportunities,
especially with him on the move.
You had the one to Terry last week that he could have thrown.
You had the one to McCaffrey this week.
And in the pocket, I think he had a chance at Diami Brown.
I think he had a big chance for Noah Brown on the double move.
Yeah.
But, you know, their running game with him as part of the running game
is so good, and it's going to,
continue to be good.
And he can really throw it too.
And he is decisive at times.
He does get through his progressions at times.
But, you know, he's still a young quarterback, and he knows he knows he's got a cheat code.
If there's trouble and it's his legs and more times than not, as we've seen in the first two games,
he bails him out.
Even on that play where he got hurt, he got a first down.
But I think it could have been instead of a 14-yard play, a 50-plus-yard play.
And that's where I think Quinn is like, once he starts to break towards the line of scrimmage and before he gets the line of scrimmage and defenses are like, do I go up and tackle him or do I stay with the receiver?
That's when it's just going to be really difficult to check him.
I love what he's done so far.
I'd give him a solid B plus through two games.
I gave him an A yesterday because of how he was in clutch time.
He totally delivered with the game on the line in the final drive, really in the final few drives.
But there you go.
That's a pun.
Oh, one other play.
There was a play in the game where Jaden Bobble the snap.
And Zakias was in kind of that fly-sweet motion.
It actually wasn't going to be a fly-sweep.
It was going to be one of those snap to the quarterback where he just taps it.
It's actually a forward pass.
He just taps it to the motion guy.
and if he drops it, it's an incomplete pass.
Jaden bobbled it, and instead of getting it to Zichias,
he decided to take it and run with it.
If he controls that snap and taps it,
makes a forward tap to Zakias,
it's set up so perfectly, it scores.
We had some of those plays last week.
I like so far a lot of the play design with Kingsbury.
Some of these plays are really good.
But look, Cincinnati is going to be desperate Monday night.
They're 0-2.
They've got to win.
So see what happens.
0-2, and they thought they had the Chiefs beat last week.
They did.
Yeah.
Anything else on the game Sunday?
No, it's just that I am in the Jane Daniels fan club now.
Yep.
And I have been, and I am even more so,
but there are definitely some opportunities for them to really coach them up right now after two games,
as I'm sure that was an absolute given before this season started,
that a young quarterback playing two games is going to have some things to work on.
All right, when we come back, yes, I will talk a bit about you know who
and what he did last night in Philadelphia.
Tommy's got a story about some fair that he went to.
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All right, Tommy, tell us about Shelly's.
Well, you know, this is the time of year where the wife or a significant other says,
let's go for a ride and look at foliage.
Okay?
Let's go look at the leaves in the trees and the mountains.
Right.
You'll probably get a lot of that.
A little bit early for that.
Well, you know, it's starting to turn.
If you drive to it, it's not early.
You drive out to Western Maryland
or to Shenandoah Valley, Western Maryland more at this point
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It's turning out in Western Maryland.
Okay.
And, you know, your wife is going to hear about it and it's going to say,
you know, let's take a ride today.
Okay, this is your opportunity to make a deal.
Okay.
Use some leverage here because the opposite of fall foliage
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Okay?
The opposite of looking at leaves for three hours is sitting in Shelley's back room for three hours,
smoking a nice cigar, quality cigar, drink a consumer top shelf liquor,
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Okay?
So what you want to do is this is when you make a deal.
If your wife says, let's go look at Follage today,
instead of giving her a hard time about it, you say, okay, we'll do that.
But tomorrow or tonight, I'm going to Shelley's.
Okay?
That's the trail.
You want to go look at foliage?
Let's go look at the foliage.
But then tonight, I'm going to celebrate our looking at the foliage
by smoking some leaves wrapped up in tobacco at Shelley's back room.
Okay?
So remember that when you get the pressure this year.
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All right.
So last night's Monday night game was the next-gen stats had just a 0.7% chance of Atlanta winning the game with a minute 56 to go in the game.
0.7% chance.
So there's so much to get to even before you know who enters the conversation.
Let me just say this real quickly.
I think Philadelphia looks better this year than they did last year.
And I think Jalen Hertz looks a lot better.
And I think Sequin Barclay is a massive difference maker for their team.
With that said, they lost last night.
And Seekwan Barclay had a play and an opportunity to put the game away
and he dropped a very easy pass.
But I think Philly's better.
And, you know, things can unravel because this Siriani, Tommy,
he is about the biggest douche of any NFL coach out there.
I mean, this guy is annoying.
He's insufferable.
If I were a Philly fan, I don't know.
Maybe Philly people totally like him and identify with him.
I can't stand this guy just looking at him.
And, you know, last year, a lot of the reporting that came out over the summer
is that he and Jalen Hertz had a big kind of disconnect
and they had the offensive coordinator that they let go.
They brought in Kellynne Moore.
But anyway, couldn't happen to a better guy that they lost that game last night.
So I think they're better, though, this year.
I think they're the best team in the division.
I do, and I think it'll prove out over the year.
And I think Jalen really looks a lot better.
They didn't have A.J. Brown in the game last night.
They're not going to have them for a few weeks.
So that's a big deal.
They go to New Orleans this week, Philly at New Orleans.
So the game was one of these weird games in that there were so few possessions.
Both teams just moving the football, even when they were kicking field goals, which Atlanta was doing primarily.
And it comes down to under two minutes to go in the game.
Philadelphia is up 18 to 15.
That's a score we had in our game Sunday.
Weird score, but we had it last night in the Monday night game as well.
It's 18 to 15.
they're facing a third down and three with a minute 46 to go,
and they're at the Atlanta 10-yard line.
And Atlanta has just used their final timeout.
This is like really fun.
I like this stuff, this strategy stuff and what to do and what not to do.
Philadelphia runs a play in which they have sort of that fake, you know,
bootleg right, but it's going to be a pass to Saquan Barkley coming out of the
field and he is wide open. And it's a ball that you would throw to your young son or young
daughter in the backyard and they would catch it. No one's near him and he drops the ball. And because of
the drop pass, basically Atlanta gets another time out and the clock stops at the end of the play.
So people have been discussing this play since the game ended last night. It's like the one thing
you can't do. You can't throw the football incomplete because then you give Atlanta, you know,
40 more seconds on the clock. So I'm not in favor of that call. Now, keep in mind, it's an option
play where if he's not open, Jalen's going to run the football or he's going to get down and have
the clock run. And it should have been a completion. It's, you know, a 98% chance this guy's
going to catch it. He just dropped it. But the only way that the clock can stop is if you actually
throw the football forward and it is dropped or it is incomplete.
And so the right play there is to consider, is it better for Atlanta to have more time on the
clock or less time on the clock?
That should have been, for me, the paramount question.
And the answer, of course, for any four-year-old is less time.
Like you don't want to give them more time when they get the ball back.
You want them to have less time.
Because at that point in the game, time is what mattered.
most. And so they gave them 40 seconds with the incomplete pass. I would have run the football
and potentially gotten into a position by running the football, which they did all night long,
successfully, of then going push push for a fourth down convert game over. If I didn't make it
on third down. Now, once, and I would have just absolutely made sure that no matter what happens
after this third down play, the clock, it's going to run.
And they didn't do that.
And so there is legitimate criticism, I think, towards Siriani for that.
Again, the play did work.
It was wide open.
I mean, Sequin Barclay has to catch that football.
But the only chance to throw an incomplete pass is to throw the football, which they
ended up doing.
Then came a really interesting decision.
The analytics people, you love them.
And they said that after the incompletion, that it was a slight go-for-it-for-it-th-and-three up-3 at the Atlanta 10-yard line.
I personally don't think that I would have done that.
I think Siriani did the right thing kicking the field goal.
It's a very interesting reasoning behind going for fourth and three
and potentially giving the Falcons the ball back after a play where the clock is going to
stop because it's fourth down, only down by three points and only needing a field goal. And the reasoning
is, is that when you're down three, teams that are down three with the football tend to play
much more conservatively. They're going for three. They're going for field goal range. They're not trying
to score a touchdown to beat you. They're trying to get in field goal range to tie you and to force
overtime. Whereas if you have a six point lead, their only chance is to go get a touchdown.
to win the game. And so that mindset, conservative versus aggressive, I guess factors into this somehow.
I think you kick the field goal. You go up six. They have no timeouts left. They'll have a minute
39 because you screwed up the situation on the play before. I mean, that would have been me. Look,
if they got the ball back after a field goal, I would have made sure it was under a minute to go
by running the ball on third down. But that's not the situation they were in. They did.
kicked the field goal and Kurt Cousins came into the game and led Atlanta down in the blink of an eye
and threw a touchdown pass to Drake London with 34 seconds left in the game. And that gave them a chance.
Well, by the way, London then got flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct excess celebration and the extra
point came from 48 yards out. By the way, some of you said, why didn't they take the penalty on the kickoff?
because you can't.
First of all, I would have made them kick a 48-yard extra point in a tie game.
Secondly, with the new kickoff rules, a penalty on a score, you have to take it on the PAT.
You can't take it on the kickoff.
You used to have that option.
You can't anymore.
A penalty on the PAT, then you can take it on the kickoff.
And the guy kicks it off from the 20, and the same rules apply on the new kickoff rule.
same landing zone, same lineup for coverage, for blocking, et cetera.
But anyway, the Eagles and get the ball back.
They have plenty of time to get in field goal range to win the game,
and Jalen Hertz threw a bomb to Devante Smith that got picked off
by one of the best safeties in the game, Jesse Bates.
But I was so happy, I'm not going to lie to you, I was so happy for Kirk.
This from Ryan on Twitter, you're the sole reason I root for cousins to fail.
yearly salivation of him is sickening.
Yeah, I get it. But it's also just from the people like you who have just misrepresented the kind
of quarterback. He's been, look, flat out, he's been one of the most polarizing players in the
game for some odd reason. I think it was that first contract, that big contract. He got the franchise
tags and then the Minnesota contract. But he's been one of the big time clutch performers
in the fourth quarter or in overtime over the last several years.
He did it again last night.
Some of you were like, what do you mean he did it again?
He always loses on Monday night.
No, he's won four out of the last five games in primetime.
He's got more other than Derek Carr, fourth quarter,
comebacks than any quarterback over the last five years.
You know, two years ago, he led the biggest comeback in the history of the league against
Indianapolis.
His jersey is on display at the Pro Football Hall fame for that comeback.
But beyond that, because I just have ignored those.
I've got friends who have said, oh, my God, he's such a choker.
I'm like, really?
Yeah, you got caught up in the part of the people that don't pay attention to what's actually happened in the games.
And instead, Red, you know, just hung out in chat boards, you know, anti-K, anti-you-know-chatboards.
But I was happy for him because after one game in Atlanta last week, he can't do it.
He's done physically shot, doesn't have any confidence, can't move.
And I said, I think all of those things appeared to be true, but there was one other thing that was missing from the conversation.
Zach Robinson had him in pistol the entire game against the Steelers, and they didn't throw one play action pass.
Kirk has been the number one play action passer in the league for the last eight years.
You've got to put him in a situation where you can play action him,
and he was under center last night a lot, lots of play action.
He started slowly, it looked ugly early, and then he got into a rhythm,
and then he was lights out at the end.
So I was happy for him because O. and two, like if he had thrown a pick on the last drive,
you know, it would have gotten ugly for him.
but he quickly turned it around.
Ryan Clark said at the end of the game last night,
he said, Nick Siriani basically saved Atlanta season
and saved Kirk Cousins season.
That's pretty hefty for the second week of the season.
It was a great game.
The weekend itself phenomenal.
12 out of the 16 games decided by 7 points or less
with all of the big upsets of underdogs winning outright.
the NFL cannot be stopped.
You wanted to say what?
Well, I didn't watch the game.
Yeah.
Because last night I went to the Frederick County Fair.
You don't go to fair?
I've never been to Montgomery County.
Do they have one in Montgomery County, May?
They used to.
I remember it out in Gathersburg many years ago,
but I haven't been to a fair in a long time.
No.
See, I like the action of a midway.
I like that.
I like a boardwalk.
I like a carnival.
I like bears.
I like all the atmosphere and action that comes with it.
And so we went last night and we, you know, saw a lot of farm animals, talked to some cows, petted some goats.
It was a beautiful night.
You know, it was great.
It was packed with people.
It was a beautiful night last night.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, and I just liked that atmosphere.
Did you go on a ferris wheel?
Did you take a ride?
We didn't go on any rides.
We can go on any ride.
I like hanging out at the boardwalk at Wildwood.
Wildwood has the best boardwalk on the East Coast.
And I think it's because when I was young and we had moved to the Poconos in East
Strasbourg, in Brooklyn, we really have carnivals.
Sometimes, like, a ride would actually stop in your neighborhood,
a little mini, like, roller coaster on a truck or a ferris wheel or the whip or something like that.
And you'd go for a ride on your corner on this truck.
And now we had Coney Island, which was a huge amusement park.
Right.
That wasn't around the corner.
But in East Trousbock, they had a local fire company had a fair.
I had a carnival every year
and I went every night
when I was like 12, 13, 14,
by myself.
Yeah, by yourself, you didn't go with friends
trying to meet girls?
Well, it was my friends, but I mean, no parents.
Oh, gotcha, okay.
You know?
Yeah, I mean, I went with parents.
Yeah, and that was such a great memory for me.
I just fell in love with that whole carnival amateur.
I remember they used to have a craps game.
They had a craps table there.
Was that league?
I remember playing crafts, but I was like 13 years old.
And I remember two guys arguing about right at the craft table next to me,
and then they started throwing fists at each other,
and it turned into a huge brawl, and they had to shut the carnival down that night.
Oh, boy.
I mean, those are all great memories of mine.
So I think that's why I like the Midway.
I like the action that comes with it.
So I was at the fair while Kirk was doing his back.
Did you play any games?
No, we just ate some good food, you know.
And actually, it was pretty cool seeing the far as animals.
You know, the cows and how these kids work so hard.
You know, a lot of them are kids entering 4-H contests and stuff,
and it's a whole different way of life, you know,
than what I've ever been exposed to.
I always kind of liked it.
I'm looking at the website right now at the various, like, you know, nightly events.
Like last night there was a poultry and turkey judging session.
There was a youth beef fitting.
There was a dog show.
There was an arts and crafts building demonstration.
There was a farm and guarding building demonstration.
And there was a sheep breed show.
You were just over there counting sheep.
Where's Tommy?
There he is.
He's counting sheep.
They had a tractor pole.
You've ever been to a tractor pole?
I didn't grow up in rural areas. There were no tractor pools where I grew up.
But I didn't either, but I went, I've been to a tractor pool. What do you do at a tractor pool?
You pull a tractor?
These souped up tractors, see how far they can pull these huge weights down the track.
Okay.
You know, and I mean really loud, like jet engine loud, enormously loud engines on these soup-up tractors.
tonight. I'm not going tonight, but tonight they have a demolition derby.
So, you know, county fair.
Demolition derby, remember when the demolition derbies used to be on Wide World of Sports?
Those were fun to watch. That was a lot of fun to watch. I mean, I can't imagine they were safe.
Here's one thing that probably could attract me to the Frederick Fair.
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They've got all of the college and the NFL lines up. There's some good college games this weekend.
And as I mentioned, the biggest line of the week right now, Cincinnati minus eight on Monday night.
The total, 48 and a half. That's the biggest total of the year so far in a game.
evolving Washington and one of the bigger totals of the week.
But yeah, Washington's the biggest underdog of the week.
Well, I'm glad you had fun.
Will you go back?
It seems like it's in town for a while.
No, no.
That's a one-night thing for me.
I mean, I didn't like it that much.
I didn't like it that much.
I mean, they're going to, you know, they're going to do a big livestock show.
How about this?
They got a rabbit release show on Sunday.
I don't even know what that means.
A rabbit release.
Maybe I can talk my way into being a judge at an event.
Oh, you would love that.
Oh, my God.
You would love being a judge.
You'd have that big top hat on.
You'd have a cigar in your mouth.
You'd have that untucked shirt and probably, you know, a pen, you know, hanging off your earlobe.
Yeah, that would be a big big.
I got a squirt on a way to be a judge.
What would you judge?
You would judge maybe a pie contest?
I bet you they have a...
I bet they have a farm queen.
Yeah.
Contest.
Farm queen.
I should be a judge at the farm queen.
Yeah.
Look at her.
All right.
You've got to go.
I got to go.
That's it for today.
Tommy will be back with me on Tuesday.
Tomorrow is still working on...
No, no, no, no.
I'll be back with you on Thursday.
What did I say?
Tuesday.
Today is Tuesday.
Oh, yeah. No, you'll be back with me on Thursday. And you'll have your
Bengals' commanders pick. All right, we're done for the day. Back tomorrow.
Okay, boss. Cousins looks right. Has a man. Touchdown, Drake London.
And we are tied with the extra point to come.
