The Kevin Sheehan Show - Kevin's Apology To Thom
Episode Date: July 15, 2021Kevin apologized to Thom today for being inconsiderate. The boys talked NBA Finals, gambling on the WNBA, Dwayne Haskins' tooth, Richard Sherman, and Ryan Fitzpatrick's summer promise. Learn more abou...t your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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You don't want it.
You don't need it.
But you're going to get it anyway.
The Kevin Cheehan Show.
Here's Kevin.
Tommy's here.
I'm here.
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I also played them on the money line last night, the Phoenix Suns. I did it plus 180. And neither one of
them came in. It was a painful beat, Tommy, a painful beat because Phoenix was not only covering the
entire game, but really covering up until the final minute of the game. And then they end up
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Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.
Well, I just wanted to catch you while we were talking about gambling. And I don't know if you
saw the story I emailed you. Did you see the story about the WNBA All-Stra?
game and the over-under number on that.
Was it like an odds maker put out a wrong line or a wrong total or something like that?
What was it specifically?
The odds maker for circus sports had put out an over-under initially, and he wanted to be
the first one on the board.
So he got one out there for 248 over-under.
For what?
For a W-N-B-A game?
All-Star games.
Oh, they've got there at their All-Star break?
Yeah, they had their All-Star game.
Okay.
And I don't know if they've had their All-Star game.
I'm assuming they had.
But what he didn't realize, it wasn't going to be a typical All-Star game,
that they were going to be playing the USA Women's National Basketball Team
as a tune-up for that team to get ready, I guess, for the Olympics.
I'm looking at the box score right now.
The game's actually been played, but continue.
It was going to be a far more competitive game
than a typical All-Star game,
which, you know, it's just basically lots of fun and lots of scoring.
But, you know, this was going to be a competitive test.
So he wound up by the time, I guess the game went off,
dropping his over-under by 50 points.
So he...
missed on the number that he wanted to put it out by how many points?
Well, he put out a number initially, I think, was like 248 over under.
Well, that's a big, I think that's a big W. I have no idea, to be honest with you.
I don't follow WNBA numbers. That's not, you know, that unusual in the NBA this past year to see a totals skyrocketing towards, you know, that level.
In fact, it makes me interested to go back to see what some of the Wizards.
total's totals were. But go ahead. He put it out at 248, you said. Well, because it's an all-star game.
Yeah, of course. You know? Yeah. And which are usually much more high scoring. That's true.
But because it was going to be against the U.S. women's national team, it's going to be WNBA
All-Stars against a team that's trying to get ready to play in the Olympics. It was going to be
much more competitive than normal. People were, people on one side of the ball were going to be playing their
hardest to try to win, you know? So that would change the outcome. I think it wound up going off
at like 197 or something like that with the overrun. So he dropped it like 50 points.
Oh my God. Which I guess is unheard of. Man, yeah, of course. You know, no spread or total moves 50-something
points. The final score of this game, by the way, was 93.85. So 178 it came in as the total. So way,
way under whatever total he initially put out and way under the revised total as well.
Yes. Yes. But it's an interesting story. And I emailed it to see. I think it's on ESPN.
Yeah, I just opened it up. A little bit behind the curtain about how these things unfold sometimes.
When was the NBA All-Star game?
I'm looking to see what the total was for the NBA All-Star again.
I mean, I've got to look it up by date.
Was it in June?
Or did we start the playoffs in June?
We started the playoffs in June.
God, this is a weird year.
It was probably in March or February.
Probably February.
It was probably in February.
I mean, it was such a monumental event.
I can't believe I don't remember.
Yeah.
I can't remember it either.
Whatever, because I think the total for that is probably,
was probably going to be close to like 280 or $2.90 maybe for an All-Star game.
I would think so.
I do want to actually try to find that because it's usually well,
it's usually like the week after the Super Bowl, but I think it was later this year.
Whatever.
Who cares?
Right.
Exactly.
Who cares?
I just wanted to flex some like gambling muscle with you.
You just did.
You just did.
I mean, it wasn't, you know.
it wasn't an impressive flex, but it was a flex nonetheless.
By the way, I'm going to open the show.
Well, we've already opened the show.
I'm going to get to very early in the show.
I'm going to apologize to you.
And you don't even know what I'm going to apologize for, do you?
You have no idea what I'm going to.
No.
I mean, I'm sure you believe there are many things that I should be apologizing to you for.
But does anything jump to mind right away?
No.
Okay.
What time did I tell you to be ready to do the show this morning?
10 o'clock.
What time is it right now?
It is 1057.
I'm sorry.
And I do this to you all the time.
And I shouldn't do this to you all the time.
And you have in mornings right now, you have a lot of flexibility, but not every day.
And I just assume that you're always available when I need.
you and I shouldn't assume that. That's rude and it's inconsiderate and I really, for whatever
reason this morning, I told you 10, in part because I needed to get the show done quickly
today because I'm playing golf this afternoon and I had the day off from radio. We could
have started earlier, but I was, I'm dealing with something right now. This is not my excuse.
It is an excuse, but it's not, you know, trying to make the apology seem less than sincere.
I was dealing with a verification of my ID issue, which now is all done, you know, technologically, where you take a picture of your passport and then you upload it to something.
And then they tell you, oh, it was too blurry.
You got to get it more in focus, and then you get it more in focus.
And then, you know, you're familiar with that.
And then you got to take a selfie so your picture matches the thing.
And I'm going through this thing.
And for seven times in a row, it's telling me your verification's.
it has passed, your ID has been legitimized or whatever verified,
and then I get an email immediately saying, you have to do it again.
It didn't work.
It didn't come through.
And the reason I'm doing this, by the way, just as an aside, I mentioned before,
we're moving.
It's some kind of INS thing or something like that?
No, it's not.
We're moving, and we're not going to be able to move into our new house on time,
but we're going to have to be out of our current house.
so we have to go into like a one month, you know, furnished rental for a month, which is fine.
I'm actually looking forward to it.
It's like total low maintenance living, which, as my wife said, you're going to fall in love with this place and not want to leave.
But anyway, the whole technology around this, I ended up calling the company and this nice girl Heather called me back and said,
it would appear as if the picture of your passport is just too blurry when it's coming through.
And I said, well, why are they, why do they keep verifying it, you know, through the setup?
But then after the fact, saying, no, it's not good enough and not giving me an explanation.
I said, I've done this seven times.
And, you know, it's getting very frustrating.
I'd really like to lease this property.
But can I just take a picture of my passport and just text it to you right now and you handle the rest of it?
No, it can't happen that way.
It's got to go through the verification system.
But it has to be a more clear picture.
Tommy, I've taken this picture of the passport 37 different ways.
37 different ways because when it isn't clear enough,
they immediately tell you your verification couldn't be verified.
If it appears blurry, you have to get it more in focus.
And so I would get it more in focus.
And then it would be accepted.
But for whatever reason, it's really not being accepted.
Anyway, that is...
Well, you told me, didn't you tell me private...
I don't know, maybe I shouldn't reveal it,
your passport is flagged at every border in the world, right?
Yeah, it's flagged at every border in the world, whatever.
Well, this is the problem.
Yeah.
Right there.
But this is a long-winded way of excusing the lateness today,
but really sincerely wanting you to know that I thought
about it this morning more than I've thought about it recently because not only did I make you
wait, I made you wait 45 minutes to nearly an hour. And that's wrong. And I apologize for that
because I don't think I've done this to you several times in the past. And my, I just assume that
you're always going to be there when I need you because, and you know, lots of times after the
radio show, I have a lot of responsibilities. Sometimes,
they'll send me something and say, we need these recorded ASAP.
And sometimes that's what delays it.
But sometimes it's just me saying, I'm going to go get some coffee and relax for a little bit.
But I apologize to you for being very, I think inconsiderate as it relates to your time
and how important your time is to you.
Well, I accept your apology, but I think you know me enough.
that if it was an issue, I would have brought it up with you.
Yes.
We've never really been bashful with each other
if there's something that's bothering either one of us.
But you also, this is, I think most times,
it hasn't really impacted you, so you haven't said anything.
But that doesn't mean that it's not, that it couldn't have impacted you.
So, you know, yes, you're right.
If I did this three straight days and you're like, God damn him.
I was planning on 9.45 and it's 10.15 now. Where is he? You would tell me.
But anyway, I just, for whatever reason, it hit me this morning because it was really a delay as I was going through this.
And I'm like, and by the way, I didn't even text you to say, I think I actually, I did.
I said, I'm running late per usual. We should be getting started shortly.
but that was like a half an hour ago.
So anyway.
Well, of all mornings, actually, I would have normally, again,
it's not that big of a deal to me.
My time is much more flexible these days than it used to be.
But this morning would have been interesting in the sense that I got to bed last night
after traveling across the country twice in two days.
Right.
at 4 in the morning.
Tommy went out to Spokane to pick up his granddaughter,
because you guys will be doing what you do every summer.
Take your granddaughter up to the Jersey Shore.
Right.
When are you leaving on that?
Well, we're going to Bethany on July 21st to my son's house,
and then from there on the 24th, we're going to Wildwood.
How's your granddaughter doing?
Was she excited to see you?
Yeah, she's matured a lot.
She's going to be 12 in September.
But, I mean, we had, it was a long day because there were many flight delays.
I mean, we flew into Denver, and Denver Airport had all kinds of electrical problems.
And we sat in a plane for an hour outside the gate because they couldn't get anybody to,
They couldn't get the electronic equipment in place to get us off the plane, and then our flight
got delayed three times.
So it was a long day, and she only said to me once when are we going to get there, the entire day.
Oh, that's, well, yeah.
She was very mature.
That is not taking after her grandfather, who is much less patient than that.
Yeah.
So hopefully you learned a lesson from that.
There's, you know, the problem with that is there's nothing you can do.
when you're sitting there at a gate and they won't open the doors,
there's just nothing you can do.
And it's planes getting hotter and hotter.
Oh, my God, yeah.
You know, because it's probably 98 degrees out.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
It was an exhausting day, but I was mentally prepared to get up early and do the podcast,
so it was no big deal.
Did you, because you went out by yourself to pick her up and bring her back,
and that is not a short flight.
In fact, you know, that that trip is as long as you can make.
Seattle is.
Essentially, the longest trip you can make from D.C.
in the continental United States.
So that is a long, I'm going to guess, six-hour flight minimum, right?
If you're lucky.
Yeah, if you're lucky.
There's no non-stop.
There's no non-stop to Spokane.
So you flew into Denver and then Spokane from Denver.
Well, actually, I wound up that when I flew out, I was supposed to fly into Denver.
then they canceled that flight, and then I flew in Vegas about a few hours later,
and then I had like three-hour layover in Vegas.
Oh, no.
And then a three-hour layover?
Oh, no, no.
That doesn't, but trust me.
And when I landed, I said to myself, you know, there's no magic anymore.
There's no magic in Vegas for me anymore.
Okay.
I mean, I've done it too many times.
I've left too many bodies in the desert.
It really doesn't do, and too many holes in the desert already.
So, Vegas just doesn't do it for me anymore.
So that was no big deal.
All right.
It gave me a chance to watch the All-Star game on TV for a while.
Right.
Well, I pounded down a few beers.
Do you fly Southwest?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, fly Southwest.
The Greyhound Busety Air, as I like to describe it.
Do you get a good seat?
Were you in that first, you know, boarding group?
I'm always, I always make sure I'm in the A list.
I always check in early because I like to drive.
to sit on the aisle.
Right.
Okay.
So, I mean, the flights were fine.
It just kept getting delayed on the way out and on the way back.
But typically, you know, a good in terms of time is like eight hours, including layovers.
Wow.
That's usually a good day.
Yeah, that's a tough flight.
I think I told you this story, not to make this even remotely about me, but I'm going
to just tell you this quick story.
when I traveled a lot for work and there was like a 14 year period where I was on the road on average three to four days a week pretty much.
But I literally one day flew out to Seattle for a meeting, flew back and had to be back by the following morning for a meeting back here.
Wow.
Now, I was younger and it wasn't a big deal, but I remember that was about as long as you can be on a plane in a 24-hour period,
unless you're just flying, you know, to Sydney.
We, my in-laws lived in Sydney for a few years.
My brother-in-law and sister-in-law lived in Sydney, and we went over to see them.
And like, by the way, I know you loved Sydney.
I loved Sydney as well.
But that's the longest trip.
You know, it was 24 hours door to door.
It was, you know, six to LAX and then, you know, another, you know, after a two-hour layover, another 15.
and then, you know, an hour after that to get to the house, whatever.
It was 24 hours door to door that trip.
But when we first went over, my oldest was a newborn.
I mean, he was a year old, you know, less than a year old.
And that flight out to L.A., he was, I mean, it was not pleasant.
Crying the entire time, it was a disaster.
Oh, my God.
And the people sitting around us, they wanted to kill us.
And at one point, like three or four hours into the flight, I just said,
I said, look, you know, we really apologize for this.
But, you know, if it's any solace to you guys, for those of you flying on to Sydney,
so are we.
And he'll be with us for another 15 hours.
All right, let's get to some sports.
I want to start with the game last night because that was the first competitive NBA
playoff game we've had in two and a half weeks.
I think I said this to you the other day, that it had been a while,
and I think the NBA playoff buzz that I was feeling anyway,
and some of you were feeling, most of you not,
had sort of worn off because the games were non-competitive for two and a half weeks,
and the first three games of this series were blowout games.
Last night was far different.
Last night, I thought, was a really compelling NBA championship game.
Two teams that were desperate, played in a very hostile,
environment. The Milwaukee crowd has been great. The Phoenix crowd was great. You know, these are two cities. These are
two cities that have really loved Tommy for a long period of time. They're NBA teams. The sons are the
number one product in Phoenix. They're the team that has been there the longest. Long before the
Cardinals or the debacks or the hockey team showed up, the Phoenix sons were it.
Milwaukee won a title. They had Kareem playing for him in the early 70s, Oscar playing for him.
These are two cities that actually love NBA basketball. And so it's been forever for both of these cities in the finals. And they're into it. You can see both of these cities into it.
By the way, have you noticed that our boy Zabe is like Mr. NBA and Mr. Milwaukee now?
Yeah, I know. That's funny. It's hysterically. He does the show in Milwaukee, very successful.
show. I think he's number one in morning drive, or way up there in morning drive in Milwaukee.
He does it from here, for those of you who are interested. He doesn't live in Milwaukee.
And he's been doing stuff in Milwaukee for 25 years. And then a few years back, he took over the
morning show full time. And, you know, he actually came on the podcast last week. He's Mr.
Milwaukee Sports. He's like Packers fan, Bucks fan. I mean, he was kind of. Wisconsin.
He's into all this.
I mean, and Zabe, I know, likes basketball and likes the Wizards to a certain degree, but
basketball was never his thing.
He tweets out 30 times a game about these Bucks games.
Good for him.
The game last...
You know, it's interesting.
Go ahead.
No, go ahead.
What's interesting about these two cities and these two franchises is while neither one, the Bucks did
win the NBA title with Kareem.
but Phoenix has never won an NBA title.
But yet, if you look at the one lost record of both these franchises over the past 50 years, 60 years,
I mean, I think Phoenix has one of the highest winning percentages in the NBA
among their best franchises.
So these are not teams that have been perennial doormats.
I know they've had their moments, but over the course of what I could,
call the walk in the desert that the Wizards have done, these two franchises have won more than
they've lost.
That's a lot more.
That's interesting.
It doesn't, if you had said that five or six years ago, I would have said, yeah.
I mean, because the Suns always seem to be in the postseason.
They've had good teams.
They don't go to the finals, but they're, you know, throughout the 70s and 80s and 90s
and they were always in the mix.
But they've been terrible for the last nine years.
So I'm looking up the all-time winning percentages of NBA teams.
And if you take out like some of the teams that were only around for a cup of coffee,
yeah, Phoenix is basically, if you take out one, two, three teams because they are, you know,
smaller market, you know, 1960s teams or whatever, basically seventh all-time, win percentage of the current.
And now the bucks are 13th or 10th.
Bucks are 10.
Yeah.
Okay, but still top 10.
I mean, come on.
You know, you know where the wizards are?
Oh, I don't know.
I wouldn't even know.
27th.
You see?
This is what I mean, these are two franchises.
You know, I'd like to make the point that, you know, we had the bird and magic error.
We had the Jordan era.
We had the Shaq Kobe error, the Tim Duncan error.
We've had the LeBron era.
And all that has passed.
the Wizards by. But now you have two franchises who, while they won, occupied the same
neighborhood of the Wizards from time to time of not progressing far in a playoff.
Right. And now here they both are in the NBA finals. In other words, eventually the clock
got around to these two teams, you know? Yeah, yeah. So at the playoff clock, but not,
not your Washington Wizards.
No, of the teams that are in the league right now, the teams with the lowest win percentage are the
Timberwolves have the lowest win percentage, Timberwolves followed by the Clippers,
followed by the Grizzlies, Nets, Hornets, Wizards.
So actually, I'm wrong about that.
They are a little bit up from that.
It's confusing on this list only because there are teams in here like the Indianapolis Olympians, you know, that played like two years or something like that.
And the Toronto Huskies and the Sheboygan Redskins.
Oh my God.
The Sheboygan Redskins?
And, you know, and the Pittsburgh Ironmen and the Waterloo Hawks and the Providence steamrollers.
You know the other thing, and I'm looking at this list.
and I think anybody that's an NBA fan understands this is just how few titles,
the number of teams that have won multiple titles is so small.
The Lakers and the Celtics each with 17 titles.
After that, you've got the Bulls with six.
The Warriors have six.
Now, part of that would be, right, Tommy, the Philadelphia Warriors,
with Wilt, right?
they won the one in 68, was it?
Or 67?
One of those two years.
67.
And then they're just a bunch of teams.
Now, the Heat have three.
The 76ers have three.
The Spurs have five, right?
I'm sorry?
The Spurs have five, don't they?
The Spurs have five, correct?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they're still right there.
Yeah.
Well, you're right.
I mean, it's remarkable.
When you look at this list, how the championships are dominated by.
very small amount of teams.
Very few number of teams.
So anyway, to the game
last night, it was a really,
really intense basketball game.
Not well played necessarily.
You know, it was sloppy. It was desperate.
And, you know, you're seeing right now
in this series, and last night you really saw
it with Chris Paul, you're seeing some of the
exhaustion set in. You know, even though the
schedule has eased here in the NBA finals.
You know, they're having more, they're not playing every other night these games.
They've had two nights off between each of these games.
And yet, you can see it.
Chris Paul looked like he was completely out of gas last night.
Now, I totally give a lot of credit to Holiday, who is just such a great defender.
You know, I'm learning a lot of, you know, you learn a lot more about these teams and these
players in postseason games. I've always thought that about the NBA. You know, what you see in the
regular season can be very deceiving. Drew Holliday is a phenomenal defender, and he is a big,
physical, athletic, long, disruptive defender. Now, he was really off offensively, and he's very
streaky in terms of his offense. I think he was four for 20 last night from the floor, and that
really hurt. But he wore Chris Paul out. Chris Paul,
had like this unbelievable assist to turnover ratio, Tommy,
going in the postseason.
He had a stretch of games, I think,
where he had like one turnover and like four games.
And in the last three games in this series,
six turnovers, four turnovers, and five last night,
including a crucial turnover late when they were down to.
I thought Paul really hurt them last night.
and I thought Chris Middleton was phenomenal from Milwaukee.
He went for 40.
I loved Phoenix last night because I thought they were going to bounce back.
And I said on the radio show yesterday, maybe on the podcast, I forget,
that I thought Devin Booker would bounce back with a big game.
He was incredible.
But he got into foul trouble.
And he had 38 at the end of the third quarter.
And only Iverson and Steph Curry, I think, have had more.
in an NBA finals game through three quarters than Booker had last night.
But he got into foul trouble and he sat on the bench for the first six and a half minutes of the fourth quarter.
And then he came back in, Tommy.
And what I'm going to describe, do you know what happened with Devin Booker?
With five fouls?
So this is one of the reasons that I think a lot of people don't like or don't trust the NBA.
Devin Booker, the star of the game for the Sons,
comes back into the game.
It's a tight game.
They've got a short lead.
There's a turnover and a breakaway,
and Devin Booker basically tackles.
I don't know why he even got in the way of Drew Holliday as he drove to the rim.
But he basically wrapped his arm around him, fouled him,
almost looked like intentionally fouling him.
and there was no whistle.
Now, the Bucks got the rebound.
Yonis got the rebound, put it back in.
Yonis did or Middleton, somebody did.
And even though they scored on the play,
the Bucks fans were irate and Twitter lit up,
as it should have.
Because that was one of those things.
And a lot of the questions after the game
were centered on, you know, what the hell happened there?
How was a call not made?
Clearly, the referees were keenly aware that he had five fouls
and they'd be taking the best player for Phoenix off the floor in that particular situation.
Well, after the game, the pool report, you know, with the officials,
they were asked obviously about this particular play.
and the referee pool reporter response was, quote,
during live play, I saw a clean sweep of the ball and thought it was a no call.
However, after seeing the replay, I now realize that I missed Booker's right arm around the waste of Holiday,
and it should have been a defensive foul on the play.
It was stupid by Booker.
He should have just given up the bucket.
it. That's what was so surprising about it in the moment is he knows he's got five fouls
and he intentionally fouled Holiday and yet they didn't call it. And so this is part of the issue,
right, is that people have had with the NBA over the years. They think that the officiating is
fixed and they try to keep this series extended and the whole thing. Well, that benefited Phoenix
who had the two one series lead by keeping Booker in the game. Anyway, it turns out that the
of the game was Janice's block on a lob to D'Andre Aiton that would have tied the game with less
than a minutes ago. If you haven't seen the highlight, it's a phenomenal play by Janus defensively,
an incredible defensive block on Aiton. And that ended up being really the play of the game.
They ended up pulling away in the last 40 to 60 seconds. They won by six, and the series is all
deadlocked at two games apiece. I think Phoenix has been hurt.
by foul trouble in their last two games. Aiton was in foul trouble in game three,
and then last night not having Booker on the floor for a lot of that fourth quarter really
hurt them as well. And I thought Chris Paul last night is great and as brilliant as he's been.
He really was out of it and give the Bucks defense. They were picking him up in the back court.
They were harassing him, and he had no energy. But it's two to two, NBA finals.
You know, the soccer out drew.
I don't know if you saw this.
The average for the Euro final between England and Italy in the United States,
an average of 9.4 million people watched the NBA finals before last night,
averaging 8.9 million viewers.
More people watch the Euro final than the average number of people that have been watching the NBA finals.
Now, if you get to an NBA finals game seven, which would be the equivalent, you know,
the true apples to apples equivalent of the Euro final, the NBA is going to get a big number
in a seventh and deciding game.
But still, a lot of people watch that Euro final, Tommy.
I guess I missed it.
Yeah, you did.
You did.
Well, that was the, I was probably on stage when the Eurofinals was going on.
I didn't see it live.
I was on stage, belting out, knock on wood, probably.
Doing your best Otis Redding.
No, not Otis Redding.
Eddie Floyd.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought it was Otis Redding.
That's okay.
Get your full singer straight, buddy.
We've got a couple of other things to talk about,
including what happened to Dwayne Haskins in Vegas.
That's next after these words from a few of our sponsors.
So, you know, there was some football news,
sort of off-the-field football news.
There's the Richard Sherman incident, which we'll get to here.
in a moment. And then there was an issue with Dwayne Haskins. The wife of Dwayne Haskins is facing a
domestic violence charge stemming from an alleged assault involving Haskins and his wife, and I'm
not even sure people knew he was married because I thought recently he put something out that
they were engaged. But this happened in a Las Vegas hotel room on July 3rd at the lovely, by the way,
cosmopolitan in Las Vegas.
Calabria Gondrazac Haskins.
By the way, remember Grant Gondrazac, the NBA player?
Yes, I do.
He died recently.
I shouldn't...
Oh, my gosh.
I shouldn't say that.
I think I read that he died recently.
Anyway, this is his...
You know, I want to get that one right.
I'm going to get this right right now.
Yeah, died January 7th, 2021.
one. He played for the Knicks, didn't he? He played for, Tommy, I thought he played for Phoenix, actually.
Did he play for the Knicks? I got a feeling he did. We got to put your staff on this.
Let me just tell you that he played for Pepperdine, and Pepperdine played Maryland in Len Bias's senior year.
it would be unfortunately, tragically, the next to last game that Len Byes ever played as a college basketball player.
Maryland opened up with Pepperdine in the 86 NCAA tournament.
In fact, one of Bias' most vicious dunks of all time was in that particular game.
And then Marilyn beat Pepperdine and then in the next game lost to UNLV
and got bounced from the tournament where they led by 8 in the second.
half, Bias had 31 in his final game, and that was it. But Gondrazac played on that Pepperdine team.
I'm pretty sure he did. He never played for the Knicks. He played for the Sons.
Yeah, that's what I remember. And he played for the Clippers. He played for the Clippers a little
bit, and then he played all over the place after that, including the Albany Patroons and the Miami
Tropics. I'm right that is him who played a Pepper Dine, correct? Yeah. Yeah. How did he do? How
did he die? I just remember reading that. Oh, heart failure, 53 years old. God. Anyway,
uh, boy, we, we get some. He had a bit of a checkered, a bit of a checkered, uh, career.
Let's not, let's not piss on this. No, no, no, no, let's not do that. Anyway, um, he,
his daughter is Dwayne Haskins's wife. And apparently Dwayne Haskins's wife in a Vegas hotel room at
Cosmopolitan on the day before July 4th,
punched Haskins in the mouth,
which caused him to lose part of a tooth.
Haskins reportedly had substantial injuries after being punched.
He had a split upper lip.
He's missing part of a tooth.
He suffered other injuries to his mouth that will require dental work to repair his teeth,
according to police.
Police were called to the hotel at 2.30 a.m. local time.
according to reports.
Haskins was taken to the hospital
when police arrived.
The wife told police
that the couple had married in March
and were in Las Vegas to celebrate with friends
and renew their vows.
Do most couples renew their vows
just a couple of months after getting married?
I thought that was like a many years
after getting married thing.
Anyway, at some point in the evening,
there was an argument that escalated
and then she ended up hitting
Dwayne Haskins in the mouth.
Haskins, according to reports,
said he remembered getting into a fight with his wife
but didn't remember getting punched in the mouth.
In searching the room,
officers found a piece of his tooth and blood.
Oh, my God.
Let's remember here.
Now, he's a victim here.
Okay?
He is.
I know.
Apparently he is.
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, boy.
We've come a long way.
We've come a long way from the Haskins and Haskins draft party, haven't we?
We've come a long way since the selfies against the lions.
You know, when he says he doesn't remember, he remembers getting into a fight with his wife,
but didn't remember getting punched in the mouth.
Is he protecting his wife, or is he protecting,
is he trying not to be embarrassed that he got his ass kicked by his wife?
wife.
I would think the latter in a way.
Me too.
In a football locker room, he's got to get crucified for that, I would think.
And I want to point out, this sounds like a part of the hangover where Ed Helms woke up
without a tooth in his mouth.
And that was not going to be pleasant when he got home if they ever made it home.
you know
wow
you know
you can't make this stuff up
you know and you
I hate to bring Dan Snyder
back into the conversation
but there were plenty of people
in the organization that warned him
that said you know
they're concerned about a lot of things
like you know the limited numbers of
plays that you know
how he accumulated the number of
but maturity was a big thing.
And like you said, he's the victim in this case.
You just, I mean, I don't know.
I hope it works out for somebody like that.
Well, let's remember something.
I think he's talented.
You go down this road.
That's the old Dan Snyder.
Okay?
Oh, yeah, right.
Let's make that clear.
Back in the day.
That's the old Dan Snyder.
Back one.
I mean, that's ancient.
history.
You know?
Yes.
So let's remember that.
By the way, just so everyone out there doesn't think the old man has totally lost his mind.
Glenn Gondersack, his brother played for the Knicks.
Oh, okay.
That's what I was thinking of.
Okay.
He played for the Knicks for a couple years.
He played for the Nuggets as well.
So, yeah, I knew what Gondersack played, because I remember, I remember a little listening to that name,
and watching them play.
I just had the wrong Gondra's act.
But yeah, his brother Glenn did.
You know, I quote
our good friend Richard Doc Walker.
I think, by the way, that's one of the compliments.
It's an ongoing compliment with a lot of us.
I think we've talked about this before
as it relates to Doc.
But Doc, working with Doc for many, many years,
whether it was working with him on a show,
but really working with him as part of this same radio station.
And Tommy's a good,
friend of Docs and we all became really good friend of Doc. Doc was really, he had,
Doc is one of these people, and we've talked about it before. When he's in a room, you know it.
Like he just has that kind of personality. And he always had lots of different things that he would say,
and many of which I've remembered, and one of his favorite sayings, and this applies to Dwayne
Haskins, in my opinion. There's nothing worse than the athlete that holds talent,
hostage and he's holding talent hostage with his immaturity. And one day, you know, he'll look back,
maybe, I don't know, I said that about RG3. Like at some point when he gets to 30, 35 years old,
he'll look back and say, oh my God, what was I doing? What was I thinking? And maybe somebody,
like a guy like RG3 or maybe Haskins, maybe they're just not going to ever grow up. But he is
holding talent hostage because he does have to.
talent. He does. And I wonder how Pittsburgh will handle this situation. Because he's the third
string quarterback. But then again, he's the victim here. So. Yes. But then again, I don't think
there's anything for them to do here. You're probably, you're right. You're right. You're right.
The other story that came out yesterday was this Richard Sherman story, which was, you know,
really crazy during the course of the day. The latest story,
was that he was drunk and he threatened to kill himself before getting arrested.
This from ESPN earlier this morning, he was intoxicated and threatened to kill himself during a confrontation with family members
before he was arrested early yesterday in a Seattle suburb, according to the 911 caller who identified herself as Richard Sherman's wife.
audio of the call made by Sherman's wife, Ashley Moss, was obtained by ABC News and ESPN early this morning.
The caller described Sherman as being drunk and belligerent and said he was threatening to kill himself.
The wife at one point did identify herself and said he was being aggressive, that he wrestled with her uncle,
and sent text messages to people saying that he was going to hang himself, closed quote.
The caller can be heard attempting to prevent Sherman from leaving the residence saying,
Richard, please stop.
And she told the 911 dispatcher that Sherman drank two bottles of hard alcohol.
Also at one point during the call, the caller, the wife asked the dispatcher to tell police,
please don't shoot him.
Then there was a subsequent call, and she said that she thought Sherman was driving to her parents' home in Redmond, Washington, 30 miles away.
Bottom line is he's facing several charges after authority said he crashed his SUV in a construction zone, tried to break into his in-laws home, and then fought with officers who used a police dog to apprehend him.
He was booked early Wednesday at a correctional facility in Seattle and was denied bail.
I guess the hearing before the judge is going to take place today.
later she told the Seattle Times, the wife,
my kids were not harmed in the incident.
He's a good person, and this is not his character.
We're doing all right, just trying to get him out.
I want people to know that no one was injured.
Wow.
Yeah, well, I was right.
Yeah, I mean, to me...
I mean, with a guy like this,
I always say that if you're going to use a platform
like Richard Sherman does to speak out.
I'm not talking about social issues, just generally.
You can't afford to slip up, because there will be people waiting to take a shot at you when you fall.
If you're going to be critical, and this goes, in a way, this goes for people in our business.
You know, we're very critical of other people, which really puts us on a slip.
free slope if we screw up.
Sure. And I understand that.
That comes with the territory.
I get that.
Yeah.
I, you know,
I've always liked Richard Sherman,
not just as a player,
but there's always been something
about him from afar.
You know, he's never played here.
You know, he was, you know,
involved in that, you know, those games
against Washington, that playoff game. I remember that.
and
you know
the Trent Williams stuff
he just always struck me
as incredibly thoughtful and incredibly bright
and
me too I agree
but when you're threatening to hang yourself
and you've down two bottles of hard liquor
you know obviously there's an issue there
there's some sort of depression issue
or something that he's dealing with so hopefully
it gets worked out I hope that it does
All right, a couple of other things to finish the show up with.
We'll do that right after these words from a few of our sponsors.
Tommy, you read something on NBC Sports Washington that you wanted to share with me.
What is it?
Yeah, well, apparently Ryan Fitzpatrick, J.P. Finley and company caught up with Ryan Fitzpatrick
and got a few comments about looking forward to this season for him.
I thought this was the kind of comment that is warm to your heart.
This is what Ryan Fitzpatrick said, you know, without playing a down yet this season, not one down, okay?
Not even training camp yet.
The biggest thing with this offense is we're able to spread the ball around to everybody
and get everybody involved.
It's going to be a tough offense to defend just because of all.
the pieces we have.
You know, this is, like Ryan Clark said,
this is the best defensive secondary I've ever played with.
You know?
Like Rex Grossman said, we're going to win the NFCE.
Like Trent Williams said, we are the Hodge 2.0.
We're going to be, we're going to be the top rushing offense in the NFL.
Yeah, I know.
I don't know.
This is it.
This is what they.
do, and this is your leader, your fearless leader, who is talking about an offense.
That doesn't even exist yet, okay?
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
I mean, he is, look, the truth is they do have a lot more offensively on paper than they've had in a long time.
Yes, I understand that.
I do.
But I just, this goes back to, I would say we're on year 15 here of me, not year 15,
because I think I was still definitely still getting duped in the late 2000s.
I think it's now going on year 10 or 11 where I just, at this time of the year, just say,
stop selling me.
Stop over-promising and under-delivering.
That's been my go-to line about this franchise for 11 years.
They are the kings of over-promising and under-delivering.
They do it every single off-season, every single year.
Back to Doc Walker.
They're great Mondays through Saturdays, Sundays are the problem.
It's just, you know, and by the way, it's not that much different
than what you hear in other cities with other NFL teams,
but this particular franchise has had more
off-season boasting and predicting over the years with nothing to show for it,
more than I think any other team in the NFL.
And I'm excited about them offensively to a certain degree.
I do think that they have a lot of weapons.
I think, you know, Ben and I on the podcast yesterday,
we're talking about just how excited they are and others are about Diami Brown.
I know how badly Scott Turner wanted Diombi Brown in this offense.
he thinks that they may have two Terry McLaurans on their roster
with a Curtis Samuel and an Adam Humphreys to boot,
not to mention a running back in Gibson,
and McKissick, and Logan Thomas,
and now a quarterback that can spread it around.
And by the way, Fitzpatrick's very good as a distributor.
It's one of his strengths as a quarterback.
He makes mistakes.
That's his weakness, is he'll throw the absolute soul-crushing pit.
at the worst time, but he's very good as a distributor.
You know, you have elite quarterbacks, you know, you have your top six, seven, eight,
whatever it is, and then what you're looking for from like nine to 15, 16 range,
you're looking for a guy that can, you know, identify what's going on, get it out quickly,
and distribute the ball. He's good at that. And so still, I know, I would rather.
Yeah, I know. Like I said, the offense doesn't even.
exist yet, and he's telling you what it does.
Well, can't read to me the exact quote, please?
The biggest thing with his offense, I guess he means Scott Turner's, is we're able to spread
the ball around to everybody and get everybody involved.
It's going to be a tough offense to defend just because of all the pieces we have.
Yeah, you know, I'll do this.
same thing I do all the time. What would I prefer? What's the, what's the right answer? You can talk about,
you know, hey, I really like a lot of the players who have. We have some very interesting pieces.
We've got some really good young talent, but I haven't taken a snap for this team in a regular
season game yet. I haven't even taken a training camp snap yet. These things take time. We're
working at it and we're hopeful, you know, that we can be productive, but time will tell.
It's just, I don't know, I've always been a believer in underselling and overperforming.
You know, and I just, and I've always, whenever we get into this conversation as we have many times over the years,
it goes back to, you know, our favorite Joe Jackson Gibbs.
Joe Gibbs was the absolute best at underpromising and over-delivering.
He hated to tell you anything positive about his team.
And then on Sundays they'd kick the crap out of the opponent.
And then, by the way, he'd shrug and say, you know, they played really well.
We just played well today and we got the breaks.
And, you know, and I just, I found over a long period of time that the teams that boast big and win big are much less than the teams that don't say anything in win big.
Like, they're more of those.
Well, you know the same.
The loudest guy in the room is usually the weakest guy in the room.
Yeah. And I, you know, I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. You had some sort of update on Rafa coming to D.C. You know, I had Mark Eyn on the show the other day. Mark was great if you miss that. That was on Tuesday's show. Mark's a really nice guy and, you know, has a lot of enthusiasm for tennis, for sure, but is also a really bright guy. And I found out a lot about the city open that I didn't know.
know before. And I think one of the reasons he reached out to me is he heard you and I sort of
winging what we knew about the tournament, which was not as much as maybe we should have.
But what was it that you learned that you wanted to share?
Well, I've got a pretty good source that's pretty connected in the tennis industry.
As they say, and by the way, I like Mark Eind a lot, too, one of my favorite people.
but one of the reasons Rafi is doing this is he needs hardcore warmups for the U.S. Open.
Well, yeah, that's what all these hardcore events in July and August are.
Right, and normally, the Canadian, I think he might play in a Canadian tournament,
but they're up in the air because of COVID, you know, the idea that they would happen.
and as I understand it, he's getting paid between 300 and 400 grand.
That was not said by Mark.
Mark said that he plays one 500-level series event, and they're the top one,
and that he is, and by the way, when he plays these events,
he comes to win them.
So I don't, you know, that, that, that,
would conflict with what the guy that owns the tournament and was responsible for bringing Nadal to
D.C. would say, and you can say, and I think justifiably so, well, if there were a guarantee,
they're not going to, they're not going to admit that. Right. And one other thing,
that news came out, that there's no, there's no, there's no restrictions on the crowd.
Yeah, he told us that they were working on that and that they, they were hopeful on that.
that. But with that said, Tommy.
Yes, and that came out today, it's 100%
attendance now.
The tickets for
this thing, though, are
have you seen the aftermarket?
Thousands of dollars. I told you
that day. I understand that. I didn't
want to see him play in person.
Right now for the opening,
well, first of all, for an all
session everyday ticket,
you're going to have to pay $1,500
and there are only two tickets left.
For the opening
a day and he probably
I'm seeing tickets for as much
as $500 to $600 for
a single session. But remember
you're, I guess you're not
guessing anymore because they only have
one session
per day because it starts at 4 p.m.
or whatever it does. But
it's going to be, they're going to be
hard tickets to get. But yeah,
okay, that's it.
Because Toronto, by the way, is a week later.
Now he could, you know, he may have passed
on Washington and played Toronto if
they didn't have COVID restrictions.
But there's, yeah, there's some question as to whether those Canadian tournaments are going
to take place.
Right.
By the way, did you see the news that Bradley Beals in health and safety protocol right now?
Yeah, I know.
And he might not play in the Olympics, right?
Is he not vaccinated?
I don't know.
It was.
It wasn't in the story.
I still, if you're vaccinated, I'm,
I don't, like in golf when John Rom got, you know, booted from the tournament, he had not been,
he actually had only had received that first Pfizer shot, was still waiting on the second one,
and it had been, you know, Beal, I guess, had exposure to someone that had tested positive for COVID,
and so he's in that safety. But if he were vaccinated, I don't know why he'd even.
I agree. You know, if one thing, let me just say two things. First of all,
you've got to be a moron not to be vaccinated.
Secondly, it's a competitive disadvantage right now in almost all these sports if you're not vaccinated.
You're putting your team at a competitive disadvantage if you play for a team.
We talked about this when it came to the NFL, you know, in the percentages and the teams that had higher percentages of vaccinated players were going to be at an advantage over teams with,
lesser because even if you don't contract COVID, if you're not vaccinated, you have to go in
to the protocol if you've been exposed, which could cost you practices and maybe even a game
or two. So, of course, if you've been vaccinated in the NFL, you're not going to get tested.
So you're going to be, you're going to be able to play. You're 100% right.
Anything else you got for the show today?
I got nothing else for you, boss.
Okay.
Have a good weekend.
Here's one thing, one thing.
Start showing up on time, all right?
I will.
All right, boss.
All right.
