The Kevin Sheehan Show - Kevin's Redskins Mock Schedule

Episode Date: April 9, 2019

Kevin and Thom open up with a recap of the Virginia-Texas Tech championship game. After that, it's that time! Kevin's annual "Redskins Mock Schedule" is released! The boys also talked Josh Rosen, Aaron Rodgers, and the Nats. <p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p> Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You want it. You need it. It's what everyone's talking about. The Kevin Sheehan Show. Now here's Kevin. You're listening to The Sports Fix. That's right, Tom. He's here. Aaron's back. This show is presented by Window Nation. If you're in the market for Windows, call 86690 Nation or go to Window Nation.com and tell them that we told you to call. Today is for the first time on the podcast, but for, I don't know, the 12th straight year, something like that. Um, today's mock schedule day. This is, which I've been mocked about for many, many years, but I do a Redskins mock schedule, not a mock draft. That'll come later in the month. This, the NFL schedule should be coming out shortly.

Everybody does a mock draft. Who does a mock schedule? Well, I think I was an original. I think I was an original. There are many people that do it now. I don't know if you've noticed in recent years. Really? You didn't manage to, uh, trade market?

I didn't, I didn't, trade market. I didn't copyrighted it. I didn't do any of those things. I didn't file patent on it. That's because you're a generous guy. You like to share your ideas with other people. It is funny. It was like three or four years ago.

Somebody sent me something. It was a St. Louis Rams blogger. And he did a mock schedule. Somebody sent it to me. And I wanted to call them up and say, that's not your idea. But anyway, I've got the Redskins mock schedule. Of course, the opponents have been determined. That was determined at the end of the season.

But now we put them in order. we give dates, we give game times to it, who are they opening with, when are the cowboy games, are they playing on Thanksgiving Day, which would be for what a fourth straight year? I'll give you the answer to that one right now. No, they're not. This is important for you to know out there, this way you can adjust your medication for next fall according to the mock schedule. Right.

You can start phoning in those refills right now. Let's start with the National Championship game because we've actually got a lot of things to get too. And you and I haven't had a chance, I don't believe, because you were on Thursday, and I remember that show quite well. It was a great show, but we haven't had a chance to do the updated, you know, Josh Rosen, Redskins sort of at the top of the list thing. So I want to get your thoughts on that, too. So we'll do some Redskins today for sure. What did you think of the game last night? Started off slow. Great second half. Really liked it a lot. Really enjoyed it a lot.

I mean, you know, there was a lot on social media saying this is a boring game, this is a boring game. Not at the end. Not at the end. No, but in the beginning, it started out a little bit awkward. But it had a great finish. And the great finish happened as a result in a way was when Virginia was finally able to break down Texas Tech's defense. And then they just started, you know, for these two teams, they started a scoring spree. it's one of the great championship games of all time.

I don't want to go crazy because we've seen some, you know, we've had memorable championship games over the years. I mean, you know, Georgetown Villanova, which Andy was on the other night talking about with me. We, you know, the NC State Houston, the ups, you know, the upsets of all time. There was not going to be an upset last night because the point spread was a one, one and a half point number at game time. But this was a great basketball game.

By what I think turned out to be, I really do believe this. In a one-and-done tournament, people will say, I love the way people will say about the NCAA tournament, but for some reason not say it about the NFL playoffs. They'll say there's the best team in the country, and then there is the NCAA tournament champion. And yes, in a one-and-done format, anything can happen, and it doesn't always produce a champion

that most people would look at and say that was the best team. Right. In the same way that the NFL playoffs don't always produce a champion that looks like the best team. There's one league that actually. The NBA. Yes. Generally, year after year, the team that wins the title is usually the team that was the best in basketball. That's got to be true.

It's funny because hockey plays best to seven and baseball plays best to seven. But you wouldn't say as definitively as you just did about those two sports. No, absolutely not. Nor would I. Why is that? because we both think hockey is incredibly random. Yeah, and baseball depends on next day's starting pitcher, especially in the playoffs. Yeah, exactly.

So it was a great basketball game. It did start slowly. Texas Tech didn't score their first basket from the field until seven minutes and 22 seconds were gone. And at that point, you know, it did appear, you know, at the 12-minute mark of the first half that a 48-46 final was in play. Yes. And then all of a sudden for Texas Tech, you got incredible offense off their bench, Francis in particular, and Virginia started knocking

down shots. And it's not that both teams played faster or it became an up-tempo game, but they became very efficient and they knocked down a lot of shots. You know, both teams did. I mean, the two NBA projected lottery picks, Culver and Hunter both started very slowly but finished very strong. I mean, Hunter was the star of the game. game. DeAndre Hunter, who I've knocked during this tournament and said, I don't see it. Like, I think he should come back. Man, did he go off in the second half? I still honestly don't believe that he's a great next level player and probably he could help himself, but he probably helped himself a hell of a lot last night. You know, it's funny. I've heard some people talking this morning already driving in

about how Hunter maybe looked himself in the mirror that morning and said, I have a chance to be a champion. What I think he did is he looked himself in the mirror and he said, I have a chance to make some money. Well, that probably occurs to him or certainly, you know, his family. Because his narrative in the tournament was not good until last night. Second half of the Auburn game, the semifinal, and the second half of last night, DeAndre Hunter, you know, stepped up in a way that we really hadn't seen in the tournament. And I know UVA people say, oh, he had some really good games, But more times than not when I watched DeAndre Hunter, I see an incredible prospect, but I didn't see a really great player all the time. I saw an awkward player at times.

He was very good last night. He was the defensive player of the year, too. Actually, he was very good all the way around. He played great defense as well. But to me, the star of the game, really, for Virginia, is the guy, he's Ty Jerome, who really makes the right play almost always. Scott on the podcast, I don't know, maybe a month ago, said he's Gravis Vasquez. And I'm like, he is. He plays just like Gravis Vasquez for Maryland people.

You know, he's got this swagger to him. He's got great vision. He's not super explosive, but he'll knock down a shot or he'll hit a floater or he'll create a play and hit the right guy. And he made the incredible, he made two great passes for huge threes, one to Guy in the corner and then the bucket that tied it with DeAndre Hunter off of Jerome's penetration. And by the way, I heard people talking this morning on Get Up, the Greenie show, that Texas Tech was in a zone on that final possession of regulation. They were not in a zone on that final possession.

They had a big guy with his hands up in the air, which may have fooled people for a moment, but watch the players. They're guarding players. and they switched the screen and Jerome went right by the big guy that got switched off on him. And then, you know, Texas Tech made a big mistake. They helped. And they shouldn't have helped up three in that spot. They should have let Jerome hit the layup.

There still would have been plenty of time for Virginia to do something down one. But Jerome made the pass to Hunter off the help and he knocked down the three. And there we were. We were tied up. Well, I mean, I agree with everything you said about Jerome. And what he did, particularly as time was winding down, he kept driving to the basket and breaking down that Texas Tech defense and opening up opportunities on the perimeter like he did with the pass to Hunter.

You're right. You know what he is and a lot of players aren't? He has a plan when he has the ball. He's just, he has a great feel for the game. He's got a great instinct. Great feel for the game. But the instinct is in that moment when you've got the ball in your hands, you have an idea what you want to do with it.

there's just, you know, he's one of those guys. He's not going to wow you with length or size or athleticism, but he's going to just cut you up with high IQ, vision, you know, feel. He's a solid ball handler. He'll knock down big shots in a bunch of different ways. I love the way he play. He ended up with 16, 8, and 6. And I don't think he had a turnover on the night.

I think one turnover. He had one turnover in the game. One turnover in the game. Kyle Guy was sensational knocking down big shot after big shot. You know, Virginia, who had not played probably their best in the tournament, ended up playing a really good basketball game last night. A really good second half. I mean, it really was a terrific, I mean, the second half and, you know, just made it just a

terrific game. And I don't think that's what people expected. I think people expected a basically not a blood, bath, but I think, you know, Texas Tech had this repute. Look, they're both good defensive teams, but Texas Tech has been criticized for being a bit of too much hands-on, too many hands everywhere. And I think people thought it was kind of going to degenerate into one of those 90s-Nicks playoffs games kind of thing. But it didn't do that. The offense opened up eventually. It opened up because both teams are highly efficient offensively, too. And they have been that

throughout the year. Even if they weren't high-scoring teams, they were efficient, defensive teams. There was a stretch when Texas Tech was down in the second half. What was the biggest lead for Virginia in the second half? Was it nine at 60 to 51? Did they ever lead by 10 in the game? I don't think so. It was 50 to 41. I don't think they ever led by 10, but there was a stretch when they were down 50 to 41 where Texas Tech threw some defense on Virginia that was nasty. And Moretti hit a couple of big buckets to get them. back into it. And then Mooney, you know, took over the game for a moment, you know, at the end of regulation and in overtime. And Culver did the same thing. I'm going to go back because

there was a lot to the game at the end that I do want to get into in more detail. But what I was trying to get to in talking about this one and done tournament, which sometimes people say doesn't produce a national champion that was also the best team, I actually think we may have seen the best two teams in the tournament, in hindsight, in the final. In terms of, of basketball teams, well-coached, balanced, defense, offensive efficiency. These were probably the two best teams in the country. It's hard to judge Texas Tech as one of the two best teams. Well, they were killing people.

This was not a team that just got hot. They crushed people in the regular season. They won the regular season title in the Big 12. Kansas not winning it for the first time ever. This was a team that really was a very good basketball team. If you want to say ultimately, I mean, I would have said, Michigan, I mean, on Friday I said any result is going to, I mean, any result is possible. These are four teams.

They're super close. All four are capable of winning two games. I still feel that way after the fact. But Virginia and Texas Tech were brilliant last night. It was a great basketball game. And it was marred a little bit, I believe, in overtime. Yes, it was. And I want to get to that, you know, because we've already talked about the end of regulation.

I've never been super passionate one way or the other about replay. You know, most of the time we discuss it, we talk about it with respect to the NFL. And I don't necessarily love what's going to happen with the ability to challenge PI calls, offensive, defensive, called or non-called. I think that's going to turn out to be a disaster. It's going to turn out to be much more of a logistical challenge, and I think it's going to end up producing a result that people aren't really happy with and that maybe it'll be short-lived.

But I'm not so up in arms about it that I'm not going to watch football anymore. That never happens with football. But with basketball, the play with Moretti and Hunter on the ball that Moretti chased down and got to with a minute six to go in overtime in a two-point game, crucial call. You know, D'Andre Hunter knocks that ball out of bounds. on any level of basketball, if any of you have ever played one-on-one,

two-on-two, three-on-three, five-on-five, you know, organized, not organized, that ball's out on Virginia. Yes. It's out on Virginia. You continue to play. It got knocked out off of Virginia. No one's even arguing that.

If you had the ball and you got it knocked out like that, you're not even arguing. You're walking away, think, what an idiot I am for not protecting the ball. Exactly. I just have gotten to the point in college basketball and in the NBA, but in college basketball this year, we saw it a lot. I don't want that much replay in the game. I don't want three and four and five minute delays. I think that there should be, I know that this is not necessarily an easy answer. It's always more difficult than it seems, but why can't they have a time limit? Like, you got 60 seconds to see something outrageously obvious. and egregious. And if you don't see it, we're going right back to the floor and playing what was called on the floor. Because that took three to four minutes.

And we're now into whether or not the hairs on the back of a hand, you know, grazed a basketball. And by the way, from my perspective, I didn't think that that was without dispute. I didn't think that that was undisputable. Did you? I mean, I thought it was pretty close. And the fact that they were looking at it for that long, it looked. looked like it touched Moretti's

fingertip or fingernail there at the end. You know, it looked like it, but I wasn't completely sure. If you forced me to bet on it, I would say, yeah, it was probably out on Moretti after looking at it for five minutes from 17 different angles. But with

a minute six to go in overtime on a play like that, I'm sorry, we shouldn't have the referees over at the scores table. I would also immediately say, under a minute. We're not doing under two minutes anymore. It's under a minute that we can use replay on something like this. I agree. Look, I'm a big proponent of replay because I grew up in the era of no replay and people forget the damage that was done by missed calls because of obvious missed calls, particularly in football games when there

was no replay. That added to the lore of the NFL, by the way. Well, yeah, but it also cost people. And I don't mean just people betting. I mean people's careers, people's jobs. It wound up costing people. So I think you want to get it blatantly right. You don't want to get it blatantly wrong. And that's where we veered from this. And I don't know how, I mean,

I don't know how you solve it other than designate an official at every game and give him the discretion to say what's blatant and what's not. I mean, basically, what's reviewable and what's not, and just hope for common sense. I mean, because that's not a call that should have been reviewable. I don't think so. And I, you know, I know that people say, well, they ended up getting it right. You know, you may think they got it right. I didn't think it was clear and, you know, undisputed video evidence.

I mean, again, I would have leaned towards it touched Moretti, but that's not the kind of play that replay was created for. If they got it right, why did it feel so wrong? Because it took so long. But it just felt wrong. It felt it didn't feel like the right call, even if it was the right call. That's right. You know, the double dribble call in the semi-final game, and I talked about this yesterday, was clearly a double dribble. But there was also clearly an attempt to foul, and there was a foul before the double dribble.

Yeah, there was. You know, we've seen in recent years that replay used in the final two minutes on a play that goes out of bounds. and it's this play from last night. We got to go check to see whose possession it is. And a lot of times a referee will basically say, I'm not going to call that as a foul, because it was a foul, but it wasn't an egregious foul. I'm going to give the ball to the offense

and let them continue to have possession. But now in recent years, replay is gone back and then giving the ball to the defensive team, and the referee is like, shit, I should have called the foul. Yeah. Because it really was an unfair result. Just like if they had gone to replay the other night and overturned the and actually called double dribble on Virginia,

it would have been unfair because they, Auburn foul, they grabbed Jerome's Jersey before. And in an attempt, by the way, because they had a foul to give. They were trying to foul, and the referee didn't blow the whistle on that particular one. He did after the double dribble when they finally got it with 1.5 seconds left. And on that particular play, there wasn't necessarily a foul. Guy was reaching from behind, but there really wasn't a foul there. but you asked why did it feel so wrong two reasons one is because that's the kind of play we all

said yeah that's off yeah that's off virginia clearly off virginia give the ball to texas tech if it grays the hair on the back of his hand on the way out or a fingernail i don't we never knew before and i don't need to know now and then beyond that you've got a dramatic basketball game that's 75, 73 in overtime, and you're going to go to the scores table and we're going to sit there for three, four, five minutes. Because, why? Because it's really difficult to tell until you've looked at like how many angles they had. And I think you've got to know within 60 seconds. You go over there, if it's clear and obvious that you blew the call and you don't need 17 angles to determine that. Let's move on. Now, maybe under a minute, we can give more.

more time. But a minute six, two minutes to go, minute 58, you still got multiple possessions left in the game. It didn't feel right watching in the moment. No, it didn't. Took some steam out of it in that moment. I'm a big fan of replay. And here's the thing, too, once the technology is out, you can't put it back in a bottle. I mean, they tried that once in the NFL. They had replay, they got rid of it, and then they brought it back. So it's not going away. Oh, I think it can be tweaked a little bit. But no, I think what you need to do is come up, come up with better ways to use it, but it's not going away. Oh, I don't want it to go away. I know, but there's people who are absolutists. They say, you know, this is, this is replay,

and this is why you shouldn't have it. I mean, you know, that's, that's like, I mean, you can't change the world and, and you're going to have, you can't not have replay when the television network is running 10 different shots of the play that you got wrong. So last night, if they had just said, we're not going to look at this, it's out on Hunter. And after the game, we'd come back and they're showing the 17 angles and you see that it may have touched Moretti's fingernail on the way out of bounds. Would there have been outrage? I don't think there would have been on that call.

I could totally, I mean... Well, you see, here's what we don't know. What if Texas Tech had won? Well, they would have had a better show. chance to win had they kept possession of the game. Yeah. Because they never got the ball back again down one possession. Yeah. So what? I mean, there might not have been any outrage because Texas Tech might have won. Yeah. It was a great championship game. To me, that's not the use of replay that I want. I know it's a

subjective thing. I think there was a lot of debate last night afterwards. I heard a lot of discussion of it. It's really, it's a personal thing. To me, it disrupted the game. It made the game uncomfortable in the moment, and it was a great basketball game, and I don't want to see that play get replayed. If you played basketball, you know what the right call was. There's no chance that anybody that's ever played the most minimal of basketball would have ever said, oh, wait a minute, hold on, that went off your hand at the end. Nobody would.

Actually, there are a lot of dudes that argue every call, you know, and by the way, that sucks when you're playing pickup, and there's that one guy. that wants to debate every call and picks up the ball and walks. Never me. Okay. Never me. I just want to get the game. I just want to play.

You just want to shoot. At this point, I just want a cardio workout at this point. Well, you just want to pump it up, baby. I wanted to mention a couple of things. It was a great game. Virginia, you know, we mentioned the key moments of the game. You know, I had this thought after the game about Virginia. Virginia has become, and Aaron, I want you to participate in this conversation because we're

going to think about the last. other great team in the ACC that wasn't Duke and Carolina. And that was Maryland. Maryland was the third winningest program in the history of the ACC. I think they still are behind Duke in North Carolina, but they were never Duke in North Carolina.

You know who's Duke in North Carolina now? Virginia is. Virginia has raised with this championship, they have raised their basketball profile to elite and in the same company of Duke in North Carolina. And look, perception-wise, no. But reality, yes, they have won four regular season titles in the last six years, four ACC regular season titles in the last six years, more than Duke or Carolina. They've had four 30 win-plus seasons in the last six years. They've got a

winning, Tony Bennett has a winning record against every ACC team, with the exception of Duke, but he's got a winning record now against North Carolina overall. And Virginia has a national championship. Virginia has taken this program, Tony Bennett has, to a level that Maryland was never at. Even when Gary went to a final four and won a national championship and was going to sweet 16s every year and was ranked in the top 10, top 15 a lot, Virginia's ranked in the top five every year. Yes. All right, Maryland was always somewhere between 17 and 7, you know, except for the national.

championship year. You know, they were in the top five all year, top three all year. Virginia is a constant in the top five in college basketball now. They are a constant, as the ACC regular season champion. They now have an NCAA title to go with it. They needed this. They needed last night. Because Carolina won it in 2017 and Duke won it in 2015. It's not a perception thing, but it is a reality thing that Virginia in terms of results is Duke in North Carolina right now. You know, I think you're right. Would you have enjoyed this more if marijuana was still in the ACC? Would it mean anything more to you?

For whatever reason, and I've mentioned this before, by the way, one other quick thought, I'm going to answer that question is that Tony Bennett's only 49 years old. So this is going to continue. He's not leaving. They love Charlottesville, everything you read. And Virginia, why would he leave? Why would you leave? You wouldn't. To go coach UCLA? Virginia, for many years, and you may or may not remember me saying this, I always said that Virginia is the sleeping giant in the ACC. I have no

idea why they're not better. I always felt like their tradition, the school, Charlottesville is actually a beautiful place to be. I just felt it was in the ACC. I just felt like they went through that stretch of Gillen and all the different coaches of Lato. It was a bad program. It wasn't very good. It was in the bottom, you know, third of the ACC for many years, and Tony Bennett's lifted it to this elite program. How would I feel? I think I probably would have been rooting for Virginia last night. You probably would have had a little bit more, a little bit of pride in that win, right? I actually found out this morning that I won a pool that I was in, because Virginia won. Now, I probably won our pool because I was the only one with Virginia winning the national

championship. But I, somebody sent me a note saying, hey, we owe you X amount. That's the best kind of money, isn't it? I had no idea. Isn't that the best kind of money? Newfound. I had no idea. In fact, I pretty much thought I was out of it when Michigan State lost. Because in every poll I did, I did have Virginia beating Michigan State in the final.

Is that the one I had with you guys? Right. So I probably would have rooted for Virginia because I, for whatever reason, and I think a lot of, you have to have been a diehard ACC basketball fan for one of the schools, because I've had this conversation with friends of mine who were Carolina fans or UVA fans or even Duke fans, that, you know, there was a certain pride you took in being in that league. Yeah. You know, and you wanted the league to show well in the tournament.

And, but I don't know, last night at the very end of regulation, I was thinking, eh, I wouldn't mind if Texas Tech won. Really? At the very end. You know, what did you think? I was going to say, just as a Maryland fan, I don't want to see Virginia winning. You know, as good as they are, as good as, and here's what I want to say about what you were saying about, you know, the program being on the same. Absolutely result-wise they are. But I think the perception thing is big.

I think that what this shows is that if Tony Bennett's not a top five right now, he's number six with a bullet. Because if you want to say K, Roy, Self, Izzo, and Calipari are the top five. You can't crack that right now. Tony Bennett is right there at number six at worst. You know, from a perception standpoint, on the coaching thing, I think Bennett would be in my top five. But on the perception thing, the Blue Blood Conversation, I think we're going to talk about the UCLA job here in a moment,

but the Blue Blood conversation to me is still from a perception standpoint, Duke, Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky. Those are the four. You know, then you have whatever the next level is, Virginia is now pretty much at the top of that level or pretty close maybe not perception-wise but they're in the next group now they're in the next group with Michigan State

with you know we got to go pull up a list Villanova if you want to say Villanova's in that next group Michigan's probably in that next group you know Louisville you know might be in the next group I don't know but they're in that next group now Virginia is but I'm just saying results wise Virginia is now the dominant results program in the ACC. And that could be problematic for Maryland when it comes to recruiting.

Like this, I think this is going to be huge for Virginia. They've never, you know, as good as Bennett is, they've never recruited all that well. Yet they've got some really good NBA prospects right now. They've got some good players. And look at Malcolm Brogden, and I know he wasn't a great prospect necessarily, but he's in the NBA. You're starting to see that Bennett's producing NBA players. And that's without a national title. Now that they have a national title, that could be problematic for me.

Maryland in recruiting this region. I still also think, and what we learned last night is for those that think that, you know, the Virginia style, you can't win a title. I mean, I did feel that a team like Virginia, and I don't think this will ever change, they're always going to be vulnerable. Playing the way they do most of the time, they're always going to be vulnerable to losing in a one-and-done deal and being out early. I mean, it was just a year ago they lost to a 16-seat.

So, but this was a really good Virginia team with really three guys that could be in the NBA on their team. Oh, yeah. And Jerome, Guy, and Hunter. Absolutely. So, I don't know, I enjoyed the game. I thought it was a great game. The replay thing drove me nuts at the end. Virginia's turned into a monster program here.

You know, who are they going to lose? They're going to lose Jerome and Hunter, right? Jerome's going to go. I assume so. Guy shouldn't go. he's got a year left right yes I'm right about that right I think he does

let's check that just to be sure I don't know why I thought Guy was a junior he is a junior right and Jerome is as well right so but I've been hearing that Jerome is gonna go

and I don't know what that means is he he's a first round pick he's close but you know he might be a later first round pick but he's a first round pick yeah I guess so. I think so. I mean, it just depends on who's coming out. Anyway, it was a great win,

and Virginia is a program is a monster program. Real quickly, because I do want to just, since we're still in this college basketball mode, mentioned two things. Number one, the all too early, you know, next year's rankings are out. ESPN did their, you know, way too early top 25, which they do the morning after or the late night after the national championship game, and Maryland's number nine preseason. I knew they were going to come back as somewhere in the neighborhood of around 15, as long as sticks came back. And yesterday the news was that Jalen Smith, Jalen Stick Smith is coming back. He's not even going to test the waters, which I'm surprised at you are too.

I think that's a mistake. I mean, I think that's surprising. I mean, what did he have to lose? But I mean, it's not like he's going to stay there for four years. It's not like, well, I want to get my education, you know, so that's not going to have. I think what's... So is this with Fernando coming back or not? So here's, it says the Terps received a big boost when Jalen Sticks Smith announced that he was returning his sophomore season.

Now they wait to see on Bruno Fernando. Had both Biggs left, Mark Turgeon's group probably drops out of the top 25. With Smith back, though, the Terps are going to be a factor in the Big Ten. Anthony Cowan at Point, Morsell, Ialla, Wiggins. Turgeon brings in some reinforcements up front. So it doesn't really say specifically. when they when they when Fernando goes and by the way I'm hearing some things that it's not a lock that Fernando goes he's got a little gravis in him where he really likes playing college basketball he apparently just loves Maryland yeah good for him

and by the way you know sticks is going to benefit significantly because he has the kind of skill that when he gets stronger and if he blows up next year he's a top 10 pick potentially and this year he was not going to be that Bruno Fernando, he could hurt himself coming back, potentially. But if he comes back, Maryland would probably even climb from number nine. They might be preseason top five. Without him, they might drop to, you know, that 12 to 15 range. So this, this news. By the way, do they have a schedule?

Is Turgeon going to schedule better next year? What makes you believe that? I saw the Maui lineup. Maryland's not going to Maui again. They're going to Atlanta. It's either Atlantis or. Orlando, I believe. Okay, well, Atlantis at least usually is a good field. We haven't been to Atlantis. They're in one of the, not like the top tier ones, but one of the decent ones. Are you going to

tell me that in the eight years of Turgeon's era that Maryland hasn't been invited to Maui once, that seems impossible to me. Yeah, I mean, I don't know why they haven't gone. Either not been invited or not accepted the invitation. I think it's the latter personally, but I don't know for sure. ESPN is not the only one that has them high. Josh Stern from 24-7 sports, compiled all of it. Number 9 in ESPN, number 9 in NBC Sports, number 11 in Sports Illustrated.

John Rothstein has them at number 11, and SB Nation has them at 17. Didn't any of them see their first round exit in the tournament? Second round exit. Yeah, they lost LSU at the buzzer, basically. Did anyone see this team play? Yeah, they did. Look, they had,

I mean, again, if you're watching them during the year, like Aaron and I do every single night, this was a team with a lot of talent. Yes. They have. And it was. That did not finish well. And it was young. And it was the fourth youngest team in the country, as we got reminded, you know, about every single game.

Yeah. So all of these people coming back with the exception of Bruno, I knew. And the thing is, Tommy, they got some players that were freshman last year in Iala, in Smith and Wiggins that have a chance to really. make a big leap next year. And then I think Morsell makes a big jump. And I'm a Cowan fan. A lot of Maryland fans are not.

I still think Anthony Cowan can play, and he'll be a senior. He's been through the wars. But they should be going into next year. They should be in that top 15 range and a pick to finish in the top three in the Big Ten. How many Big Ten teams are ranked in front of them? Michigan State's one.

I bet's Ohio State's one of them. Ohio State should be ranked high. Michigan is seven. Ohio State's 10 behind Maryland. So four in the top 10 from the Big Ten. By the way, I looked up that preseason tournament. It is the Orlando Invitational. It's going to include Temple, Texas, A&M, USC, Marquette, Harvard, Davidson, and Fairfield.

Big deal. Marquette could be a good win if they faced that. Atlantis, I bet, will have a better field. I'm sure. Yeah, I mean, oh, it was, yes. Yeah, I mean, Atlantis is Alabama, Gonzaga, Iowa State, Michigan, North Carolina, Oregon, St. And Hall, Southern Miss. That's where Maryland should be.

By the way, Texas Tech is not even ranked preseason in the ESPN. I know, they've got all these players, even. And Chris Beard might leave. And Chris Beard might leave. I mean, that was like a patched together team. One other quick college basketball conversation I wanted to have with you because you have a sense of the history of the sport. Rick Barnes turned down the UC. He's the latest to turn down.

on the UCLA job. Now, maybe Chris Beard leaves Texas Tech and goes to UCLA, but the UCLA job has become irrelevant. Irrelevant. UCLA used to be one of the Blue Bloods in the sport. And the sport itself in recent years has seen a lot of coaches choose to stay. Remember, Shaka Smart stayed at VCU multiple times before finally leaving to go to Texas. The guy owed him at UMBC last year turned down jobs.

Yeah. You know, to stay at UMBC. You know, the, and by the way, this is a quick caution. This is why I will, and I do this with my Maryland friends, caution them on occasion. Be careful of what you wish for because, you know, UCLA is open and nobody seems to want it. Now, there are differences. Like the PAC 12 is not attractive, and the Big Ten is very attractive. And the West Coast has had a lot of recruiting issues with the AAU programs out there.

I've read a lot about that over the last year about how the AAU programs in Southern California in particular are more corrupt than even the East Coast programs. And a lot of those players are coming out of there as big names. Remember Stanley Johnson and all of the different L.A. guys and they haven't amounted to much.

But how about the UCLA job, Tommy? That they can't give it away at this point. It really is remarkable. It's like a small community college in the West Coast. It really is. It's like University of California Luis Bispo or something like that now.

That would be, I'm very familiar. San Luis Bispos. I'm very familiar with Cal Sloe. Okay. Versus Cal Fullerton and some of the others. I've had, I've had all of them at various times over the years. But that's what it's turned into. It's just turned into part of that program.

And instead of being this crown jewel that it was when we were growing up. Oh, my God. It was the, I mean, it was a top five program and job. Yeah. when it became available. Now, Earl Watson, apparently, you know, a lot of UCLA people want him, but he doesn't, he hasn't graduated yet. But he's on, he's in the process of getting his degree. Personally, I think they should let him coach the team and get his degree in the process.

Why? I mean, who cares at this point? It is a college, Kevin. I know it. It's a college, but if he's working towards his degree as he's coaching the team, he's not, whatever. It's a college. You should have a college graduate as an instructor. You really have to have that? It might be a great basketball coach. I don't know. You don't have to have a college degree to be a great basketball coach, do you? No, you don't. Okay. But you're not just a great basketball coach. I understand that. You're working for a university.

Okay, fair enough. I just think if he's working towards his degree and apparently getting close, that they should just hire Earl Watson, who I think would actually be a decent coach. Now, Beard might take the job. You know the other thing about UCLA, if you ever watch their games? They have no fans. Yeah.

There's no fan base for that program anymore. It's a pro town. We know one fan. Doc Walker. Of course. We know the doc. Doc is there. Big one. Bill Walton and Doc.

Here's the problem, though, with the UCLA job. If you're one of these coaches who has a pretty stable job where you are, Steve Alford just went to three sweet 16s in five years, and he got fired. And he went out of town and they hated him. If that's the standard that you have to, you know, if you have to do better than that, if you have to get to a final four in your first four years or you're out of there, why are you leaving a stable job? That's a really good point.

I think that's the case in a lot of the coaches staying where they are. I mean, Rick Barnes is staying at Tennessee. Yeah. All right. Now, Rick Barnes has always preferred football first schools. You know, it was Clemson, Texas, and now Tennessee. You know, Gary has mentioned to me before, Barnes is the brilliant one out of all of us. He's gone to the places that can pay big, but there's no pressure to win.

And then he's won. Look, look what he did at Texas. I know. And it wasn't good enough. But, yeah, I mean, that's a great point about Alford. I mean, they had some good teams. Yeah. But, you know, they also really don't, there's not a passion for UCLA basketball in L.A.

There is a passion for USC football in L.A. I could be wrong about this, but I think we've had this conversation with West Coast people before L.A. people. But as we've seen here, that passion can change. That passion can diminish. Yeah. And USC is in danger of that. I know, but yes, yeah. I mean, it can change.

You can't just count on it, especially in a competitive market. Before the Rams got there and. Now they have two football teams there. I think a lot of L.A. people would tell you that the Lakers were one and USC football was two. And then after that, it was a free for all, including the Dodgers, that when USC was competing for national championships over that stretch. Right. You know, here in the 2000s. that that was the order.

That was the order. Four million fans of here. I know. I know. Okay. All right. I'll get to my mock schedule here shortly. This is the big moment.

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All right. Let's get to the mock schedule. You ready for? Do we have any kind of music to? No, that's right. We can't. There's no music. There should be some.

We have music. There should be something. Aaron can play a bed. You want a bed? There should be something leading up to this. Yeah, Aaron can play a bed, but we never had an open for it. Oh, I think we did. We did?

I think we had pomp and circumstance and dancing girls and a live marching band in the studio once. I don't think we did. Remember when we had that live band in the studio? I do remember. Yeah, this was a big deal. I don't think you should downplay it. All right. Mock's schedule, Redskins, 2019.

What is that? I don't know. I pulled up award music. She sounded pleasant. I don't know. It sounded like the kind of music you have when you're trying to get to sleep at night. No music. What kind of music do you play to go to bed at night?

I don't play any music. Do you ever do like the ocean sounds or anything like that? Oh, I've done that before. Really? Yeah, it's helpful, actually. All right, that's nice. Let me give you overall what the Redskins have in terms of their opponents. Of course, they have their division opponents, the giants, the cowboys, and the Eagles, home and away.

They also play the NFC North this year. That's not going to be easy on paper, Green Bay, Chicago, Minnesota, and Detroit. They play the AFC East, which includes New England, and maybe a very improved Jets team, also the Bills and the Dolphins, who should be way down this year. And then the two opponents, and a lot of people don't understand how this works, every NFC team plays the same schedule with the exception of two games out of the 16. And that is where you match up with the other divisions in the NFC, and you play the team that finished in the same place that you finished in last year. For the Redskins, the whole division is playing the NFC North, but then in the NFC South and the NFC West,

the NFC South opponent will be Carolina for them, and the NFC West opponent will be San Francisco. All right, there is an emphasis this year in this 100th year of the NFL celebrating 100 years of being a league. They have told us that the schedule will emphasize some national television rivalry games. So I've used that as a way to get the Redskins into some national television appearances. By the way, every team, and this goes back, I think three years now, every team is guaranteed a Thursday night game as part of the Thursday night package, really for competitive reasons so that a team that everybody has to face that short week. Right, that short work week.

Now, you know so much about this scheduling. I'm already blown away by your knowledge. Well, you, it's pretty remarkable. But, you know, when you talk about this 100th year celebration that the league wants to do with rivalries, people don't really think about this that much because the first one that would come to mind with the Redskins is the Cowboys. Right. But that's only 50 years old. I mean, if we're going back, to old school beginning of the NFL, it's Redskins Giants, who played each other in the first NFL championship game the Redskins ever played in 1937.

I mean, that's the old school rivalry. The Redskins and the Giants played each other for 30 years before the Cowboys were relevant. Right. So I'm just putting that out. Okay. I mean, I... And you're scheduling.

I think I just threw a monkey wrench in it. Well, I'm just going to tell you that that's great that in the 1930s, the Giants, the Giants and the Redskins were top rivals. But they're celebrating the 100th anniversary of the Redskins, so they're going back old school. Well, I did not put a Redskins Giants game in prime time. Well, I'm just pointing out your mistake. I haven't even mentioned the first game, and he's already got a problem with it. All right.

So one of the other thoughts I gave to this schedule is I think the Redskins, with their over-under number of being six, you know, basically, you know, predicted to finish. you know, near the bottom of the NFC, that they're not going to end up with as many national television games that they've had in recent years. In fact, I only have them for two. That would be the least amount they've had in many, many years. I've got a Thursday night game for them. I've got a Monday night game for them. Last year, I only got really one game right. I actually predicted that they would play Tennessee on a Saturday in the second to last week of the season. And I remember Coolly when the schedule came out and he said, how did you know they were

going to play Tennessee on a Saturday? I'm like, I don't know, it was just a guess. Anyway, this whole thing is a major guess. And more times than not, I get none right. I think maybe I've gotten too right at most. And I've gotten too right before. And I've gotten a lot within a week of each other. And the thought process usually involves thinking about the beginning of the season, the opener. The Redskins played a home opener in 2015. 16 and 17. And therefore, I predicted last year that they would open up on the road because they had had three straight seasons of opening up at home.

In fact, in two of those three seasons, they had two home games to start the season. So I predicted last year that they would open up on the road. I actually think because they haven't opened up on the road a lot until last year, I think they're going to open up on the road again. Let me just point out, before, before, where you go on. I don't think you give yourself enough credit. When you said that you've gotten too right in the past, I think what you need, the way you need to put it, is the NFL got 14 wrong. That's even better. You're very kind. All right. Let me get to the schedule. The season will open up

on Thursday night football with the Packers and the Bears, not the defending Super Bowl champions. On Thursday night, I think it's September 5th. The first Sunday of the NFL season is September 8th. I've got the Redskins in a rivalry game opening up in a Fox 425 national window against the New York Giants in the Meadowlands. These are the two lesser of the NFC East teams this year. The Cowboys will be in a prime time spot. They'll probably, they could be in that game against the Patriots on Sunday night, although I think they play the Patriots at home. Aaron and I have already predicted Brown's Patriots in that Sunday night. Cowboys might be one of the first two Monday night games against the Eagles.

That's a possibility. Or the Cowboys Eagles might be a 425 game. But Fox typically has three or four, you know, marquee branded markets, big market teams in that opening 425 slot on opening day. I got the Redskins at the Giants in the Meadowlands in the opener 425 p.m. on Sunday, September 8th. Their home opener comes in week two against the Detroit Lions. You've got an opportunity here to start fast.

The Giants aren't supposed to be that good. Detroit's not supposed to be that good. I've got them against the Lions at home and a 1 o'clock game on Fox in week two. Week three, the New England Patriots come to town. So we get the New England game early in the season, at home week three, one o'clock game on CBS. All right. New England, Washington, week three, the Patriots are in town. Then the Redskins get their first national television game, and it's a short turnaround from playing the Patriots, September 26th at Philadelphia on a Thursday night. All right, so that's a Thursday night game, week four for them, at the Eagles, and that completes September. By the way, and I've done this every year, as I'm going through this, I'm reminding everybody, this is not their actual skisks.

schedule. So don't start dial on the phone making your travel plans yet. When we would do this live, you know, people would be tweeting or whatever saying their skin schedule is out. No, this is the mock schedule for the Redskins. So September at the Giants to open, Detroit at Home Week 2, the Patriots at Home Week 3 at Philadelphia on a Thursday night in week 4. Week 5, Sunday, October 6th, 1 o'clock on Fox, the bears come to town for a game. And then the weekend of October 13th, you can make plans now. That's the bye week, all right? You don't have to schedule any, you can schedule any travel for the weekend of October 13th.

That's going to be the Redskins' buy week in 2019. I think you're a little bit early on the by week. Off the buy week. I had the buy week correct last year, too, I think. I had it very early, and it was early last year. off the bye week they will wait until Monday night and they will play the Cowboys

at home on a Monday night October 21st. So the Cowboys and the Eagles the two national television games the Cowboys at Home on Monday night October 21st. Then you get an intriguing matchup on October 27th

short week Redskins at Minnesota to face Kirk Cousins and the Vikings and I got that game as actually a 425 game, late afternoon slot. Redskins at Vikings. I know some of you will say, nobody cares about that. It's just, it's a late October NFC matchup, skins, cousins, 425 at Minnesota. It will be a popular storyline. November 3rd at Buffalo, 1 o'clock on Fox.

November 10th, back home against the 49ers at 1 o'clock. Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan back in town. A week later at Carolina for a Sunday 1 o'clock game. And then the weekend before Thanksgiving, the giant second game at home, one o'clock game on Fox. So that gets us through November. You got five games in December.

Your November basically, your November included, you know, Buffalo, San Francisco, Carolina, the Giants. it's a nice little stretch of potentially if you're a competitive team you've got a chance maybe the way it would look on paper going in December opens up at Lambo on December 1st

1 o'clock game and by the way you'll see the NFL schedule unless you're playing a West Coast team once you get to these December games they're all listed as 1 o'clock because they're all potentially flexed games to a different time or to Sunday night December 1st at Green Bay

December 8th at Miami 1 o'clock game as well December 15th they are home to Philadelphia a 1 o'clock game December 22nd they are home against the New York Jets by the way that's the one I feel like I'm going to get right I don't know why don't ask me why but I got a weird feeling that they're going to schedule I gave you Philadelphia

and the Jets is home games late why because the Jets could be very improved. They could be much improved this year. Philadelphia could be a contender. And they're going to look at the Redskins and they're going to say, how are we going to get some people into that stadium in December? We've got to make it a short trip for Philadelphia and New York fans to come down here. For whatever reason, the Jet game stuck to me that that's a week 16,

second to last week of the season game. Jets at home and then they will finish on December 29th in Dallas against the Cal to finish up this season. You want me to go through that again? Yeah, run them through them again. All right. The opener at New York against the Giants and the Meadowlands.

Week two, the Lions at Home, 1 o'clock game. Week 3, the Patriots at home, 1 o'clock game. Week 4, September 26th, short week Thursday night game at Philadelphia. Week 5, Chicago at home, 1 o'clock game. Week 6 is their by week.

All right, week seven, October 21st, Dallas on a Monday night at home. The 27th at Minnesota, November 3rd at Buffalo, November 10th, home against San Francisco, November 17th at Carolina, November 24th, the Giants at home, and then December 1st at Green Bay, December 8th at Miami, December 15th, Philly at home, December 26th, the Jets at home, I'm sorry, December 22nd, the Jets at home, and December 29th, the season finale at Dallas. I will post this on Twitter and we'll put it on the website as well. So there you go. You know something?

I got- 2019 Redskins scheduled. Please do not plan accordingly. I got a feeling that you're going to set a record for the most ones you ever get right this year. I can tie the record with two right, I think. I think you're going to set a record. I think you're going to have a least right. I think you've said that every year about this.

You know why? because it sounds plausible. But of course, anybody could do this, and it would sound plausible. If that's the schedule, by the way, they actually would open up the season, at least on paper, and the NFL schedule is impossible to predict. But with the Giants and the Lions at home in the first two weeks? Kevin, what's the over-under for wins for the Reds? Six.

Okay. In Vegas. Don't forget that. I'm not forgetting that. Okay. And then you have a stretch in November. If they win their first two games. Buffalo, the Niners, the Panthers, the Giants.

If six is the over-under and they win their first two games at a season, it's going to be a miserable rest of the season, isn't it? Well, the toughest portion of this schedule would be Patriots at Philly, Chicago. In late September, early October, then you get a buy, and you've got to play Dallas in Minnesota. So the buy is when Jay Gruden gets fired, right? Well, I mean, we always have looked at that, you know, October buy as, They better not be 0.5. That's when Rob Ryan takes over his head coach, right?

Oh, God. What a disaster that would be. I actually think that the coach on the staff that would take over would be Ray Horton. Just remember I said that. Just remember I said that. Oh, I'll remember you said that. Not Bill Callahan. No, it won't be Callahan.

Not Rob Ryan. I didn't think it would be Ryan. And Callahan seems to have worked his way out of favor at Redskins Park. So, I mean, but Horton wasn't even football last year. A lot of their coaches weren't in football last year. A lot of their players were planning on not playing football this coming year. Anyway, there's your mock schedule. Again, I'll post it on Twitter later today and also put it on the website.

Aaron, I'll put it up on the website. Before we get to a couple of other things that I wanted to talk about, real quickly, you were here Thursday, and then the news, I think, you know, from the guy out in Denver and there was some follow-up conversation. And there's a lot of buzz now, even more than there was. Josh rose into the Redskins in a trade. Well, Peter King is reporting it now, too. A lot of people are. Did Peter King report it this morning? When did he report? I think he reported it a couple of days ago.

Okay. I don't know that I saw the Peter King thing. But anyway, the thing that I had on Friday is that it's definitely there's legitimate design. on the Redskins part to trade for Josh Rosen, but they do not want to part with number 15 overall, but they would part with a package that would include a second rounder, a third rounder, and a later round pick. And I am in favor of that trade. I don't think I am in favor of giving up number 15 for Rosen. Let me ask you a couple of things.

What's the better value deal for the Redskins? trading for Josh Rosen, giving up a second, a third, and maybe a later pick, or drafting a quarterback at 15 and not trading away any of those picks. If that quarterback's not Kyler Murray, it's Josh Rosen for that package of picks. That doesn't include number one. That's a better value. In my view, it is. I just don't know.

I'm not personally. Coley's confident about Locke, and he's the one that I do like after Murray. I don't like Haskins. I don't really have a great feel for Jones. Greer, there's some interesting things. I like Stidem if they were to take them in the third or fourth, but it would be Rosen. Rosen would be after Murray the best quarterback,

and to get the others, you're going to have to probably use a first-round pick. Yes. So if you get Rosen for a package that includes something less than your number 15 overall, it's win-win. You're getting the second best quarterback in this draft, and you're getting them for less. If they do that, does Rosen start the season? Well, this is very interesting,

and this is one of the reasons I wanted to bring it up with you today. So when I talked to Cooley about this on Friday, and then I had J.P. Finley on the show yesterday, both Cooley and J.P. said, well, there would be a quarterback competition. And I said, if they trade for Josh Rosen, he's going to start. Yes.

They're not trading for Josh Rosen to be in a competition with Colt McCoy in case he. So he can sit on the bench and learn and learn how to play quarterback. He went through four years of NFL experience last year in one season with the Cardinals. I just really believe that if they trade for Josh Rosen, I'm not saying it would be a bad deal if they got Josh Rosen for this. I'm in favor of it. If they trade the second and the third and whatever, you know, called a conditional fifth or sixth for Rosen, I'd be totally. in favor of that. But be honest with yourself. Part of the reason that will happen is because the

owner wants it. The organization needs a jolt. It needs a marketing jolt. And we're talking about a limited jolt, but it's still a jolt. Oh, it would be the biggest jolt of this offseason. But it's still a limited jolt. I think we can definitely talk about. Let's not talk about people flocking back to the stadium. I'll lend this conversation right now. I'm with you. I don't think it's like this home run answer that's going to solve all their problems. But for them right now, after season ticket renewals apparently went very poorly, which was not a hard prediction. They need something that they can market and sell. And I agree. This is what they need hope. Landon Collins and Case Keenham are not hope. This is the thing that could do that.

Plus, from everything I've read about Josh Rosen, I think once they see him at Reds Park compared to the other two guys, they're going to say, what are you nuts? We're going to bench this guy? We're not going to start this guy? Not to mention he does have star qualities. You know, he's interesting. He's outspoken. He plays with swagger. You know, if they trade for, I mean, I couldn't believe, Cooley said, no, I still think it would be a competition. And J.P. Finley said, you know what? I bet you Jay would think it. I bet you Jay thinks it's a competition. and I bet you he thinks that until Rosen's in camp for a week. Oh, I bet you they will tell you that it's a competition,

but I'm just telling you that I would put a lot of money on Josh Rosen being the starting quarterback week one when they go to the medallands to face the Giants in week one. Yeah. You know, we just gave you the schedule. That's right. And I would be shocked unless he were injured and he couldn't participate and he was banged up or whatever.

I would be shocked if he weren't the starting quarterback. He's already had his year of apprenticeship. For Case Keenham? Or Colt McCoy? I mean, I'm sorry. And that means one of those guys. They have a middling quarterback right now. And if they trade for another middling quarterback,

if he's only just a middling quarterback, at least he's the middling quarterback you're not sure as middling yet. Yes. So that's what they would be trying to sell you. Yeah, they'd be trying to sell you on the uncertainty of hope. Now, we also had the conversation just about how Jay, let's, you know, his honesty, his brutal honesty, seep through. We saw it the year with RG3 when he basically said, we're going to have to win some

13 to 10 games and get some special teams at defensive touchdowns. That was the most alarming statement of all time when early in that 2014 season, Gruden said that, and you're like, wow, he hates him. And then later on, we found out how much he really did hate him. And then, of course, he got silenced the following year when he talked about a competition. Yes. And but, you know, if Rosen came into camp and really wasn't any good and and and and Gruden knew it, Gruden might go to that group this time and say, we can't win with this guy. And but this time they'll say, and this is why they've got to include Gruden in on the evaluation,

because they shouldn't make the trade unless they're trading for him to start. I agree. Not, I mean, you can see, look, you could make the case. They're trading for the future. All right? But you've got Case Keenham and Colt McCoy there. I mean, what kind of future? I mean, you have two backups and the guy who you think is going to be your starter. Why not make him the starter? Exactly. I agree. I think if you trade for him, he's got to start. And I bet Gruden would be involved. I think he's on the quarterback thing this year. I think he was involved in looking at Case Keenum tape. I think he would be involved in looking at Josh Rosen and telling them yes. And if he says yes, you know, we can develop him and he looks, you know, good.

Then he better get him ready for the opener. Because I can only imagine the conversation when Gruden comes to Dan and Bruce in, you know, mid-August, you know, and says, Josh ain't ready yet. We got to go with Case. That would not be a pleasant conversation. But I think it's going to happen. I think they're going to end up trading for Josh Rosen. Now, unless I mentioned this to JP yesterday, unless.

New England or the Chargers, or the two teams in particular, that might say he's our quarterback of the future and we're going to take number 32 overall and trade it to Arizona. That may be. That may happen. And the Giants just may be nuts enough to do something. Not with number six. Probably not. Not number six. I can't imagine they're going to trade number six for Rosen. I think I do think. But they can give you a better second round pick. I do think that most people would have Rosen as the second best quarterback in this draft. That's what I keep hearing. I wouldn't know because I don't evaluate quarterbacks as well,

as you got you doing and others like you. Kevin, you say you're fine with like a two, three, and a later this year. What if they're demanding multiple twos? Are you still good with it? Well, that makes it more pricey because once you get to the multiple twos and then you throw in a three and something later, now you're getting to an equation that almost equals number 15. You know, it wouldn't be at 15, but a two, three, and called a five now is like 55 or 60% of the value of 15. It's a subjective thing.

I'm going off the draft, you know, one of those draft value charts. But if you throw in another two now, now you're getting closer to equaling of 15. But the answer to the question is, I think I would still consider it, yes, if it were two-toes. Depends on how much you like them. It would have to be obviously the 20-22, because they only have. Right, right. That's what I mean to the cross multiple years. They have 46 and 96, which are the two third rounders, right?

No. Because they have the comp third, right? Yeah, they got the, they have, they have, yeah, they have 15 and 46, their first and second, and then they've got two thirds, 76 and 96 overall. Now, before we wrap this up about Rosen, I'm required to read the perfunctory, you know, basically statement declaration that, you know, like the Surgeon General's warning. Right. It doesn't matter who plays quarterback for the Washington Redskins. It doesn't matter who coaches the Washington Redskins. They're not going to be good. Thank you.

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as Yogi once said. Yes. This Aaron Rogers story, you know, started for those that don't know about it. It started last week with a Bleacher report story that basically shredded Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rogers. Rogers as an aloof, arrogant, non-leader, and McCarthy as a bumbling, stumbling, idiot of a coach, who Aaron Rogers mocked and thought that basically McCarthy had cost him Super Bowls over the years because he was so incompetent. Well, yesterday, Aaron Rogers went on a radio show in Milwaukee and basically went off defending Mike McCarthy. First of all, he called the story a smear attack on him and McCarthy by a writer who was trying to advance his career.

You always hear that in these situations. And bitter and irrelevant players from Packers Passed. Rogers went out of his way, and I've read some of the quotes, but apparently you have to listen to this interview to get the tone. He was so passionate in his defense of Mike McCarthy and said he and Mike were close and that Mike McCarthy is responsible in many ways for the success that he's had. He said the beauty of our relationship was that it grew year after year. We learned how to communicate with each other. We had beauty in our on-field relationship, a ton of trust. And he said, when I read what I read last week that I disrespect him by changing all these plays that I had a lot of latitude in a way

that made Mike, you know, appear to be irrelevant. He said, you know, I'm I called two-minute offense like a lot of quarterbacks do. I'd call stretches of no huddle offense. A lot of times he'd send two plays in and say, do you like that? What do you want? It was a relationship that grew and the trust level was very high. I think there's too much smoke around Aaron Rogers.

Oh, absolutely. Over the years, with the family and the whole thing. Go ahead. I mean, first of all, I know most people want to believe this. And I don't know the reporter from Adam. have a real high opinion of Bleacher Report one way or the other. That said, nobody goes to carve out their career by writing a phony story of this magnitude. There's truth in this story. But you can take people who are willing to really go after these guys that were close to the

situation players, and the players could have had an agenda as well. Well, yeah, but I want to point out, we just went through this. This was Bleacher report. I know that. We went through this a couple weeks ago. Used to mock Bleacher Report. I know. Well, that was because when it was run by fans, when fans used to write for. Now they've hired legitimate writers.

Mike Freeman writes for Bleacher Report. I mean, you may not like him, but he's a legitimate journalist. He's worked for the New York Times. And I'm not a big fan of Bleacher Report, but that was the difference between then and now. You're big fan of Freeman? We had it. I like Mike. Okay.

Okay. A couple of years, a couple of weeks ago. we had this situation in Philly with Carson Wenz. A reporter I know in Philly who writes for the Philly Voice of website detailed this story pretty much like this in a way that Carson Wens was not well liked in the locker room, that the coaches weren't crazy about him, that he wasn't a great leader. And, you know, that writer caught a lot of flack. And then two weeks later, maybe about two weeks later,

Carson Wenz pretty much came out and said, well, you know, maybe I need to change some things. He didn't necessarily validate what the story said, but he did. You're right. By saying that. And more times than not, you're going to have a situation like that here. Aaron Rogers may just be a real loose cannon. But, you know, it's hard for me to criticize Aaron Rogers because he went out with Olivia Munn.

You know? I mean, come on. Well, you like Danica Patrick, too, don't you? Or not? I like Danica Patrick as a racer. Yeah. Not necessarily as a babe compared to Olivia. Mon, that's high stratosphere.

But she appears to be nuts, too. Well, but still, I mean, so it's hard for me to get too worked up and angry about Aaron Rogers because he had enough to hang with Olivia Munn. He can't be that crazy. In the last month or two, we've had Ben, Wentz, and Rogers. Yes. And all three of them are elite quarterbacks. Yeah, two of them are going in the whole thing.

Yeah, and Wentz, I think everybody recognizes the talent. last year was a rough year coming off the injury from the year before, and he ended up injured again. It may just be the nature of the position. Yes, it may be. A position that is given more responsibility than any position on the team tends to have more autonomy than any position on the team is a position that's looked at as you got to lead. You got to be a leader more times than not, vocal and otherwise. And you're usually to face it a franchise. And, you know, maybe if you, you know, talk to a half dozen to a dozen players on every team,

you'd find guys that hate the quarterback. Well, look, we saw it here in Washington. I'm not saying they hated them. But we saw it here in Washington. Everybody knows about it that Joe Thaisman, there weren't a lot of fans of Joe personally in that Redskins clubhouse. True. But they swore by him on Sundays. They respected his leadership.

they respected his talent. And yeah, it may be, you're going to get a volatile, egotistical personality more often than not. More often than not. In a quarterback position. It's probably some level of self-absorption is what's made them great. Yeah, so you're right. It may just be the nature of the position. It reminds me the movie North Dallas 40, where Mack Davis plays the quarterback and Nick Nulte

plays like the Pete Jen character. The wide receiver, yeah. Right, they're buddies. But at the end, when Nick Nulte's kicked off. the team. He's telling Matt Mac Davis and Mac Davis already knew he was

being kicked off. And Nick Nolte says to him, you know everything, don't you? And he said, that I do. And no, it's like the quarterback is a different figure. Even with his friends. And this guy was his good friend. And he knew what was going to happen to his friend and didn't tell him.

So, yeah, I mean, this, and you know, again, I think Mark Murphy, who's president of the Packers is a smart guy. I mean, I've talked to him a number of times, and I just can't believe that he would be, he would preside over this chaos, or maybe he was trying to stop the chaos.

Oh, we know. Who knows? By the way, the Nolte character in North Dallas 40, what receiver did he resemble more than any other? There was a receiver in the NFL at the time. Fred Bolitnikov. Absolutely. Yes.

He was Fred Boletikov. Yes. I mean, he, I think he may have even had Bolitnikov's number 25 number. But he was Fred Bolitnikov with the hands and the stickum and the whole thing. I remember Stickem? Remember Lester Hayes? Oh, yeah.

Just the stickum coming off. Oh, my God. Yeah, I mean, I think there's probably a lot to it. You know, right now, by the way, you know who's really looking bad is Antonio Brown. He can't keep his mouth shut. No. And, you know, Oakland deserves what they get with him. That's one of those things where if Gruden had the...

this incredible respect and relationship. He should be in Antonio Brown's face right now saying if you don't get off social media and keep your mouth shut, it's too late. They've already paid him. They've already, but what are you going to do to him? I was listening to Ryan Clark this morning, ESPN's Ryan Clark, who is ESPN's Ryan Clark when he was playing for the Redskins. And he really went after AB. He said, there's been, you know, I'm paraphrasing. He's been, there's been, you know, a feeling that many of us have had and we've been trying not to summary him publicly about the kind of person that he was and his talent's unmistakable and his production's unmistakable. But you're starting to see the AB that a lot of us knew. You know,

a guy that just is going to be a problem and is going to be insecure and disruptive wherever he goes. How frightened do you think Derek Carr is about going into the season with that guy? I mean, again, he'll probably love him and he'll probably hate him. But I'm thinking more times than not, he's going to make Derek Carr's life miserable. I think there's so much pressure on Derek Carr this year. That's a team that all of a sudden, you know, you look at that team and you think he's got Antonio Brown on that team. You know, he's got Terrell Williams, they signed as a free agent.

Well, how many draft picks do they have in this draft? I mean, they've got like five of the top 100 picks, I think. Yeah, I mean, he better, this team better be in contention for the playoffs late in the season. It better be. They want to be able to make a big splash when they go into Vegas. They don't want to limp into Vegas as a rebuilding team. The whole AB thing, though, it really is, it's an interesting debate among NFL fans because you can say on one hand, who cares?

The guy's the greatest receiver in the game. He changes the game. He makes it easier for your quarterback. He wins games. But at the same time, nobody like him has won at all. He quit on his team. He quit on his team. in week 17 last year.

Quit on his team. Somebody else said that this morning that they couldn't get through. It was Matt Hasselbeck. Matt Hasselbeck actually said, he said, look, you love a guy like that and you hate him at the same time, but ultimately, when he quit on your team,

you never, as a competitive athlete, can get past that. No, I don't see how. Can never get past that, that he actually walked out on your team. You can't trust him on the field. You can't trust him on the field anymore. He is great, though.

Yeah. He's been great. Do you have anything on the Nats? They lost again yesterday. They lost again. The bullpen cost them. Look, they need to fix this bullpen yesterday. And they need to send Trevor Rosenthal down and give him an assignment where he needs to figure this out someplace other than a major league field.

They can't, he's not going to figure this out in non-pressure situations. He didn't pitch yesterday, did he? Well, no, he didn't. Because they're afraid to put him in, particularly when. Well, if they're afraid to put him in, then they got to get him. Well, that's, but they are. Basically, their strategy is we're going to get him in non-pressure situations. In other words, when they have a big lead or when they're down big.

Right. And I don't think that's going to help him. I think he needs to get away from the major league spotlight and go work in Harrisburg or go down to Florida to the Gulf Coast League and get some work in to get this right. It's not a physical thing. it's almost like the yps in a way I mean he literally can't But you know what I told you know what

And that's not true He threw some good pitches He got squeezed a couple of times He got squeezed in that game Against the The game that I mentioned last week I forget it was against the Phillies And the Mets

Maybe in the Mets He had a couple of really difficult calls That he didn't get that he ended up walking guys Yeah so he got squeezed too So he's not that far off But they can't afford to fix it here And they have to fix it You saw they brought Joe Ross

Yeah All the way from Fresno already. Shouldn't we be at the point now without a day off that we're going to get the fifth starter here in the next few days? Not yet, I don't think. We have not had the fifth starter. Whoever it is. Who is it, Helixen? Helixen.

And they've used him in relief already. But you probably won't see Hellux until the end of the month. I don't think they need a fifth starter until then. No, here it is. We're going to see him on Wednesday night. Right now he's scheduled to start on Wednesday night because this is the first stretch where they haven't had a night. off. Right. Right. There's talk about Bud Norris coming in. There's talk about Bud Norris, a relief pitcher who's unsigned coming in, but it's also with a caveat that the learners are determined to stay under the

luxury cap penalty. I know you think that these games are important, you know, to the season, you know, starting with all these division games. Yeah, I understand that. I don't know. They are. They're four and five, and they've got two more here against Philadelphia, and then they're going to get, what, the pirates, I think, and... But these are the very... You're not going to win a wild card in the National League East. You've got to win the division. So, and these are the teams that are going to be fighting.

To win... No, it's not too early to say that. It is too early to say that. Listen, I can say that. I can say it. It's too early to say it. It's too early to believe it. Well, I can say it, and I can believe it, and it's not too early to do either one.

What did you think of my mock schedule? I thought it was very impressive. I got a bit of news for you. What? Thursday night, May to 16. 6 to 8 p.m. The fifth annual cigars and curveballs fundraiser for the D.C. Grays. I'll be hosting that.

At Shelleys? At Shelleys. The Grays are the non-profit organization in Washington that I'm part of that helps create baseball opportunities for inner city kids. We run camps and clinics for kids throughout the city where we supply all the equipment, all the coaches. We help run baseball's RBI program, which is their youth baseball program. We sponsor 15 boys' little league teams and nine girls' softball teams. We pay for their coaches, all their equipment, everything. We pay for all that.

That's all through nonprofit fundraising. And we also have the collegiate baseball team that we sponsor, the Grays, who play in the Cow Ripkin Summer League at the Nats Youth Academy. They played their home games. This is the 50 year I'll be doing it. You've been to it before. It's a lot of fun. I missed it last year.

I'll be there this year. Andy Pollan has been, and Andy comes and smokes a cigar. Yeah. Which is pretty remarkable. Doc Walker has been there before. Mike Rizzo has been there in the past. It's a $75-hour donation. Cash or check, no credit cards, goes to a worthy cause.

You get three cigars, cash bar, free appetizers, and a lot of brotherhood and camaraderie. Yeah, a lot of fun conversation. And there's a live auction. Of tickets and sports memorabilia. Exactly, that you always are able to compile for that. Last year, Joe Thaisman generously donated an autographed football. It was great.

All righty. Wait, wait, wait, before we wrap up, we do have breaking news related to something we talked about earlier. UCLA is apparently zeroing in on Mick Cronin. Okay. because Virginia Tech, they hired somebody. I remember Cronin was going to go to Virginia Tech, and Virginia Tech just, who's the coach they just got? Why am I blanking?

It was not a big name coach that they just. Woffords. Yeah, Woffords coach. It's a good coach, but definitely a lower profile. Mick Cronin can coach. He's a good coach and has been for a while now. But, you know, I don't know if that's going to excite UCLA people. No.

They don't get excited by it. like Alford over again. When are you on radio next? I'm on radio Wednesday from four to six with Chad Dukes on 106.7 a fan. And don't forget, I do the show with Andy Pullen on 106,7 a fan every Saturday and Sunday morning. I always say Saturday morning cartoons, Sunday morning sermon. Saturday morning cartoons, Sunday morning church. All right, thanks to Aaron. Thanks to Tommy. tomorrow we'll start to do some caps talk to get ready for their series against Carolina. We're going to really start getting into the draft and a lot of detail here too with guests and discussion of position groups, etc.

Over the next two weeks as well, you'll be here on Thursday, so we'll be able to, you know, make her caps and predictions. I'll be at the caps game Thursday night. Awesome. All right. Thanks. Have a great day, everybody.