The Kevin Sheehan Show - MD In The Way; Thom's Wash-NO pick

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

Kevin and Thom today with plenty of options on the menu. Thom's eyes, holiday parties, Gladiator 2, changing dictionary definitions, and more to start. Thom's Commanders-Saints pick followed. Belichick and Maryland still standing in the way of the RFK Site bill to finish.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheon Show. He is Kevin. Tommy's here. I am here. The show's presenting sponsor, as always, is Window Nation.

If you've been thinking about new windows, call them at 86690 Nation or head to Window Nation.com. Tom's got his pick because we don't have a buy week this week. So you've got your Washington, New Orleans pick coming up on the show today. We'll talk Bill Belichick to North Carolina. Carolina on the show. We'll talk about the latest in terms of Maryland's demands for the RFK site bill. But I do want to start with something that I am concerned about. And that is, I've always considered your eyesight to be bad because you get a lot of things wrong and you

claim that you see them very, very clearly. But you've got an issue with your eyesight right now and you're looking at me like I'm a blurry person. So what the hell's going on? Are you going to get it fixed? Well, the blurry part of you is one of the benefits. Yes, I would imagine. My wife wants what you have. Yes, that's one of the few benefits.

Well, we've talked about briefly, and I won't go into detail, but we've talked about Audit off over the years of the eye treatment I get. Yeah, we won't talk about that in detail. On my left eye. Yes. Okay. Yeah, that does not, that's not a pleasant conversation for anybody. I know that.

But my right eye has been spot on crystal clear until about two weeks ago. And it started to get a little blurry. So I went into my retina specialist, the doctor I go see from my left eye. And they ran a bunch of tests. And it turns out I have some fluid leaking in my right eye that's going to require the same treatment I get in the left eye. Yeah. Okay. It's a treatment that if you haven't heard about it before, it will make you cringe.

so I'm not going to say it. Right. Okay. Does it hurt? It does. It's not pain. Do they numb you? Yes.

Okay, good. Yeah, but it's a very uncomfortable feeling. Oh, God. Okay. Woo. So. I would have to be heavily medicated. Heavily medicated.

I mean, with, by the way, some alcohol on top of that. And you know, when they do it. Yeah. You know, I kind of like, I grunt a little bit. Oh. And the doctor's. I don't want to hear anymore. And I feel like a pussy because the doctor says, are you okay?

And I always say, yeah, because I am okay. But for that brief moment of impact requires a grunt. Like it's not, you know, when, you know, you get like an injection of something and they say, there's going to be a small pinch here. Nobody, I'm sure some people get bothered by that. I don't get bothered by that. But that concept in your eye is. is really difficult to handle.

So let's get past that. And so... Are you going blind? I don't know. You know, be honest with you. I don't think so. I may be someday. I mean, I'm not going blind tomorrow.

Right. The medicine that they're going to give me, I have to take once a month for four months. And then after that, not as often. Now, he told me there's a 30% chance that it will return my vision and my right eye to where it was before. But the main goal of it is to make it keep it from getting worse. So this may be right now just a little bit blurry what I have to deal with for the rest

of my life. Right. You know? So I won't be like Helen Keller sticking my hands under a water fountain saying water, water, water. Coming in here banging off walls. Tommy's in studio today until he finds his chair. You know, we've known each other now.

for, it's 2024 for 16, 17 years, something like that. And, you know, when we used to be in the studio together all the time, I would, you know, of course, make fun of you, because you would sometimes take the computer screen or take your phone and put it literally like it was touching your face to see. So you've needed bigger print for a while now. Well, no, I haven't needed it. Now I really do need it.

Uh-huh. You know, my writing, I wrote a Soto column the other day, my first time writing a column under these circumstances. And I enlarged the type on my computer so I could read copy. And I have to read a little bit slower. And then to write, I wrote on large type. And my writing process takes a little bit slower, which could impact me writing on deadline at events. I may not be able to do that anymore. Well, good.

That'll give you more time to think about the column before you write it. Thinking it doesn't always work for me. So you have an editor. Yes. Yeah. So that person will be able to fix all of these. What about voicing your column? You know, I don't like that.

I've tried it. And I like to see type on the computer. I mean, because I always tell students when I teach, you know, if you can't think of what to write, just write something. because once you see it on the screen, things will become the crystallized. That's good advice. You know?

Yeah. I mean, this is what writers block. You just write whatever pops in your head and you just start writing and you look on a computer screen and all of a sudden things are starting to make a little bit of sense to you. Right.

That doesn't happen with a voice situation like that. That makes sense. And usually a lot of, you know, sometimes I don't know what the hell I'm writing and I just start writing it. And all of a sudden it seems like it could pass. for a column and I send it.

I think it might work here. Yes. And you know what? A lot of those columns were the spectacular. Were the ones that I get the most feedback for. Of course. Yeah, of course. The ones that you didn't really do yourself. You just kind of winged it. Yeah. Well, I mean, people have thought you had vision problems for years. They've been calling you blind for years. And now it'll be close to true. You're not going to go blind.

Tommy's going to be fine. He's going to be able to see as well as he's always been able to see, really, and interpret the same way. But can we make fun of it every once in a while? Will you be okay with that? Yeah, I'll be okay with that. Look, you know, I'm 70 years old. Okay. People are always a little bit surprised at that.

I think given my lifestyle, I do pretty good for 70. Yes, you do. You know? And physically, health-wise, I'm pretty healthy. I know it doesn't look like it, but I'm pretty healthy. And physically, I mean, I've probably the best I've been in 10 years. Right. Of all the organs I have on my body, I never would have thought it would be my eyes that would have given up on me.

Yeah, well, they haven't given up totally on you because you did drive here, which I'm a little bit curious about. No, I mean, I can see big stuff. Like I can read that TV without anything. I can see. You know, I can see stuff. What about little stuff? Well, what kind of little stuff do you need to? A sign?

A sign? A sign? I can read a sign. I could read that TV. Okay. Jesus God. I mean, would you... What do you turn me into the fuzz?

Would you pass? I'm not going to turn you into the fuzz. Would you pass a driving test, eye test right now? Yeah, I'm not answering any more questions throughout my attorney. Yeah, right. You shouldn't. Okay. You should.

Call Neil and Rockville. You know what? Okay. Neil and Rockville will be a guy that can help you. Oh, that's for sure. You can always Uber everywhere, you know. That would be a good move for you. Thanks, Dad.

I have a bunch of emails. As you were, as I was waiting for you to come in, I just got caught up a lot on recent emails that people have written. And I appreciate all of them. And you can email the show through the website, the Kevin Sheehan Show.com website. It allows you to send in thoughts. And I get to a lot of them, but sometimes I'll have time, like, waiting for you to come in today.

I had time to just get caught up on them. And I want to read a few of them because I think they're good topic starters for us, conversation starters for us. But I did, I mentioned to you when you walked in that we had a holiday party last night, you know, for the radio station. Yes. Which is all. How exciting that is, man. Well, you reminded me of, oh, my God, at 980, there were a few years there where the holiday party was basically whatever client would give them a trade. It was a trade.

I'll tell you what, we were lucky Wendy's wasn't one of our clients. I think they were one year, but we were lucky they didn't choose them. Although I would have gone for, I think I would have gone for a single with cheese and we've been fine with that. You know what? I think it would have been better than what we had. We did, I don't even want to name them the place, although I don't even think they exist anymore. I don't think so either. And if they don't, it's because of the quality of the pizza that they made.

Oh, my God. It was so horrendous, and it was this pizza place that was not very well known. I think it was a chain. There was one in Columbia, too. Okay. So it was a local chain. Maybe it was a national chain, but it's ironic because they, They marketed it themselves as a pizza place.

Right. But like a gourmet, like specialty pizzas, like great pizza. Yeah. Not your corner store pizza. Right. And it could. Let me see if the places even exist anymore because if they don't, we'll mention it because everybody's sitting going, they do exist.

There are a couple of them in the area. Okay. Who knows? They may be a sponsor on the podcast soon. But, you know, I think, you know, a lot of you are doing the company holiday party thing now. And last night's was actually very nice. It was at the MGM.

It was in a ballroom at the MGM. That's nice. And it was very nicely done and it was a good time. But when you brought back the memories of 980 when we were owned by, you know, Red Zebra. Yes. And they just, the idea of doing something nice for their employees was never really He discussed. It was, oh, you want to do a holiday party?

Well, if you can do it with trade, then go ahead and throw it. If not, and here's the thing. Like, it probably was a pure trade with maybe a few dollars, you know, thrown in it. And it was, it was terrible. It was, if they had spent just a tiny bit more, they could have done something at our office, in our studios that was catered where we were all there together. Remember, most people are like, it's. where? I'm not even going. You know? Now, that said,

we did have a couple at Ruth Chris. We did. We had a couple of Ruth Chris. That's true. They were good. They were nicely done. Yes. Because you can't go wrong with Ruth Chris. Speaking of Ruth Chris, the one that was in Bethesda isn't there anymore. Really? I don't know where it went. But the only reason I bring that up is the other night. Anyway, holiday parties, let me net it out. Because I did, and I was in charge of doing holiday parties before I got into broadcasting with companies that I was involved in

and coming up with, you know, what we would spend and how we would do it. And I just think, obviously, if the company is doing really poorly, you can't go nuts. But the difference between something nice and something shitty usually isn't as much as you think it is. And it's worth it to do it right for your employees. Anyway, beyond that, I, um, I, um, I, I went to. I went to Gladiator 2 the other night. Do you have any interest in seeing it? Well, you know, there's certain movies I don't want to see sequels of or remakes of or anything like that. And I don't know why you would, I guess, I don't know why you would feel compelled to make a sequel to Gladiator 2 except to make money, which is a good reason.

So I'm going to wait to watch it on TV. I'm not going to have the theater experience. I'll get to what I thought of it in a moment. But the reason I said that is that I went, with one of my boys and we were like, we were hungry. And I was like, well, you know what? We're going into Bethesda. We'll just go to Ruth Chris, sit at the bar and get a steak or something before because

we had an hour and a half to kill. And then I looked it up on my phone. It's not there anymore. There's a Morton's across the street. For whatever reason, we were just like, we're going to do something. We're hungry. We haven't done this in a while. And it's only the two of us.

If we go to the bar and it was early enough, it was probably, I thought it could be the happy hour menu. Yeah. But anyway, long story short, we ended up, Ruth Chris and Mortons was crowded, so we went to Capitol Grill in,

Chevy Chase first and sat at the bar and had dinner and then went to the movie. That's why I was thinking about Ruth Chris. But, or you brought up Ruth Chris, and it just made me think about the other night. But Gladiator 2. So when I heard that it was coming out, I was like,

you can't make a sequel to Gladiator is, for me a top 10 movie of all time. It's up there. It's way up there on the list. I mean, I don't have my top 10 put together, but it would certainly threaten the top 10. It's one of those that any time your channel always watch it. You stop.

I mean, especially in certain scenes. I mean, the end of that movie is so emotionally awesome. But I had read a lot about how it was reviewed very well. And I had mentioned it, maybe with you or maybe on radio with Denton that I think I wanted to go see it in the theater and I had a dozen people say awesome go see it it was awesome really it was really good Denzel's great I mean he's great easy denzel's in it Paul one of the best actors of his time Paul Muscal do you know who he is I don't know off so he's not done a lot he did this movie recently I think it's called

after son that was on something that I was watching it's a story of kind of a depressed father with a daughter. It's kind of a dark movie, but I thought he was really good in it. And then Pedro Pascal's in it. He's excellent. And I thought it was really well done. It was two hours and 28 minutes. It flew by. I loved it. You know who came back for the movie is Connie Nielsen, who think about this. This movie was done in 2000. Was it 2000 or 2001? I forget. I don't remember the year. 2000. So 24 years later, and I thought she was gorgeous, you know, in the first movie. Yes. So she's 59. She's still gorgeous? Yeah. So at the time, she was 35 years old. She's still very pretty, and she was excellent. I'm just telling you, for those of you who are

gladiator fans, and I would imagine most of you are, I thought for a sequel, it was about as good as it could be. I'm excited now about it And going to see it Well, are you going to be able to see it? Is this going to be our lives Moving forward? Because your vision's about to get blurry. I bet it is, but I'll duck and you won't see where you're punching.

But maybe it's better to see it in a big theater for you. I can watch television just fine. You can? In fact... Do you have to be right next to it? No, I don't. We started watching a series called the Black Doves. And I think I've heard of it

You know And I'm watching it It was my wife's choice And at this point I've kind of given up Because I haven't We haven't found that many good series And it's all British

And I've told you before I can't stand watching British TV I'm sick of the accents I'm sick of it My wife That's all she watches her British show Oh God I feel like an idiot

Saying what There's not enough American shows I got to watch the Brits Right I'm sick of the accent I'm sick of the whole bit you know but I'm watching it and it's not that good it's okay so I'm looking forward to when gladiator 2 comes on TV yeah go by the way going to the theater when there's nobody in the

theater is the best yeah because we were going to go um the Friday night after Thanksgiving because it came out I that's a huge theater night though and it you couldn't get a seat anywhere so um so we went the other night I thought it was I thought it was well I used to like going to matinees in the middle of the day i used to love you felt like you were cheating well you know i always i always like sitting out at shelley's watching the real people work yeah i always like the feeling of coming out of the movie theater yeah to daylight because i always felt you know the world could have ended and i never would have known it i would have been inside this bunker watching like like two hours of i don't know indiana jones or something like that right so yeah i'd like watching i used to like

watching matinees. I haven't been to the movies in a long time. That's the first time I've been to the movie in a while. And I'll tell you what, snow caps are good. They're still good, really good. Well, you know, you can get all kinds of food now at the movie. Oh, yeah, but I still, I don't go to a movie theater to get a meal, even though they offer it now. I go to get popcorn, although because we had just eaten dinner, I didn't get popcorn. But I did get a box of snow caps. Actually, my son got the snow caps. I got M&Ms, but his snow caps were a winner. I used to love snow caps. I hated raisinets, light snow caps in a movie. But that was all I got. All right, I'm going to read some emails here because some of them are good. This is from Matt, who's emailing us from upstate New York. And he's writing about the conversation that we had recently about, you know, this being a tough media market. Yes.

The DC media might not be as tough and cutthroat as New York, Philly, or Boston, but you could argue it's one of the smarter and professional media markets, a rich history of smart writers working for legit media and print and TV, and know how to read a room and aren't afraid to ask smart questions. I think this has been true for most of the older media people who lived during the glory years. We know what winning looks like and what questions to ask when things don't go well for the team. I think coaches and former players are just not prepared to have their decisions challenged in a smart way and have been sensitive to criticism like we should just trust them

and the process. Thanks for many years of smart analysis. Please watch The Wire, Kevin. And Tommy, have you watched Peaky Blinders on Netflix yet? I've heard so much about Peeky Blinders. Now, that's a British series I might watch, Peaky Blinders, because I've heard, but I'll never get my wife to watch it with me. I'll tell you who's been telling me about Peaky Blinders forever, because I know he listens, and that is Cowboy Clay.

Clay has been telling me that we would love Peaky Blinders for probably five or six years. The show might be 10 years old at this point. Well, you need, before you watch Peaky anything, you need to watch the while. I understand that. And before you watch Peaky Anything, you need to watch Game of Thrones. I have a hard time finding a costume to watch it.

But, so do you agree with him? I don't know. What am I going to say no? That was such a nice email? Yeah, I mean, did he mean me or am I? I think he meant you and some of the older media members, yes. I don't know. I mean, the media has changed and become so different.

You know, media just used to be newspaper guys. And I'm sorry, but most newspaper guys are better equipped to do the job than a lot of Internet frat boys that now cover teams. Right. You know, that's just the way it is. So maybe in that sense, you know, I appreciate that. And he's probably right. I mean, because the training and the education you went through to get to the point where you could actually go cover a team was pretty significant back then. You know, you just couldn't say, sign up to a website and go out there and get a press credential and write about what, you know, write about what everyone else is asking the coach.

So I think he's right in that sense. There was a time where it was more intelligent. But I think you could say that about everything. Yeah. I mean, I get what he's saying. it is D.C., but he also starts with, it's not as tough and cutthroat, and that is 100% true,

you know, as places like New York, Philly, Boston. And I think we've referred to that much more than whether or not, you know, and he's kind of saying it. I do think that the media in D.C. is smart and has been for years. I also think that there is a fanboy part of the media, in D.C., but I think you get that probably in every market.

Oh, you do. Yeah. But it's definitely, as Matt wrote, it's not cutthroat. You know, nobody's sitting there going after a coach in a press conference. That happens in New York in Philadelphia and Boston. The other thing, too, is I think overall, in any market, especially when it comes to football, I think a lot of media members have just gotten better at understanding the game. There's just a lot more information out there.

We'll never understand it like coaches do or players or people who played the game. But there's just so much more access to things, data. And then the all 22, which really is a completely different way of watching a football game than being at the game or watching it on TV. So I do think, I mean, and I'm thinking about my. myself here when I, and I've done it for years, when I question like a coach's timeout or decision to go for two or whatever it is, you still see the bungling of these situations all the time. We've had multiples of those. Sean McDermott blew the game for, or blew any chance for

Buffalo. So that stuff I think has been a part of it for a while. But man, you hear a lot more. I don't know if it's in this market. I just, I hear it much more from. some of the national pundits, and some of those people are former players too. But the access to data, the access to analytical information, some of it, like you and I have always agreed on, is just information, you know, and just a part of the story. But I do think, I bet you people in media today who never played or coached the game have a better sense and a better understanding of the game than writers or radio talk show hosted 20 years ago.

That's hard to argue against. I would say that sometimes information can be, sometimes information can help you lose perspective of what's really, what's important, what's significant. I always say, you know, when, when the people on the beat, you know, we say, does this guy know football, does that guy know football?

He doesn't cover football. He covers the Washington Redskins. Right. That's different than covering football. Right. A lot of the drama that we deal with has nothing to do with what happens on Sunday. What has everything to do with the inner politics. That's part of human life.

Yeah. You know, it's not like, I mean, it's always existed. So sometimes, look, Tom Shale said we are the former Washington Post TV critic. We're the most over-informed, under-informed society. ever because we have all this information, but I'm not sure we know how to process it and use it. This came from Kian or Kion. He writes, Kevin, I hope all is well. I'll keep this short and sweet. Can we please acknowledge and praise the fact that we just named a new team president and it was not front page headlines or even worthy of more than 30 seconds of discussion? I'm currently embracing

and enjoying rooting for a normal franchise where the business side, is irrelevant because there's an actual on-field product to discuss. Always enjoy listening to the show, especially Tuesdays and Thursdays when Tom is on. Enjoy the rest of an actual real playoff season. Yeah, it is interesting that, and it's the right thing, that this was not, I mean, when Lafamina was named team president and Jason Wright was named team president,

it was days on days, and trying to get them on the show and trying to do the whole thing. the only thing that I said about the hiring, and by the way, I'm blanking on his name right now. Mark Krauss. Klaus. Klaus. Klaus.

I was just trying to pull the name and I'm like, what is his name? And I started to type it in, but it came to me right at the last second. Is that I did talk to somebody who said he's a branding guy and he comes from the consumer goods, you know, business, food side, you know, craft and Campbell's and that he understands and will understand what was. lost with the name and everything that went in it. What he does about it, I have no clue. Mm-mm, good.

Mm-mm, good. Campbell's chicken soup is... Oh, my God. Now that he can't see, he's going to start singing more. But it's a good segue into this one. This comes from Dale, who writes, I have a 1977 Webster's new collegiate dictionary that has been on the shelf of every office I've had since

1979. Redskin, American Indian, no mention or reference to anything else. Look, this is in response to, and again, I forget if you and I talked about this Oh, we're not going to do the name again.

Oh my God, I wish I was death. What I said the other day was, you know, for, it's the mic drop moment and has been for years. dictionary defined insensitive racist well the truth is even today when you look in a lot of dictionaries the word racism or racist has never been used and if it has it's like in one dictionary maybe maybe two but in websters and others it's pejorative it's insensitive is you know the the the word that's I think most often used and somebody had brought up the point when somehow I got into discussing

what I've discussed for 10 years now about just, you know, they should have petitioned the dictionary to change the definition to what it means today, which is, it means the football team that plays in Washington. It doesn't mean anything. No one uses that word and says, oh, you're talking about Native Americans. No, we're talking about, you know, Jaden Daniels. He's over there sitting over there. He's a redskin. Well, he's not. He's actually a commander. Yes. But that's beside the point. But somebody had brought up the point that the dictionary did change. It changed around the 70s where it went from what this gentleman just sent us, Dale, where there was nothing in the definition that remotely reflected that the word was

insensitive or offensive. And it became that way in the late 70s or early 80s when dictionaries updated it and changed the definition. So he's just pointing out that he has a 1977 dictionary where there was nothing listed in Webster's when it came to Redskin that was pejorative that was you know what I feel like what I feel like I'm sitting in English class at 11th grade and I'm looking at the clock to find out when the periods are I used to do that all the time God when you should sit there look at the clock and then you turn away and you're next time I'm like it's going to be um oh and then this last one uh no I've got two more to read this one comes from Mike. So we did not talk about the

guy that killed the head of United Healthcare. We didn't talk about it on Tuesday because he got caught right after the recording of the show. Yes. I think. So I had, I talked about it on radio and I said that one of the biggest mysteries to me out of all of this is how do you make a gun from a 3D printer? Like, I've heard that now a few times over the last couple of years,

and it just doesn't make sense to me. Does it make sense to you? No, I know it happens. I mean, people talk about how you can build a 3D home? A 3D printer and you end up with a gun? There's nothing that makes sense to me about any of that. Not even a rubber band gun. So, Mike wrote,

the gun enclosure may have been 3D printed, the enclosure, but the barrel and the mechanism must be made of metal to withstand the pressure. Yes. How could it withstand the actual firing of a gun? Something made that was printed. And he writes, this was in a sense a ghost gun. I did know when they started describing the gun as a ghost gun. I knew that ghost guns were homemade and did not have serial numbers and weren't traceable. I had heard that before. And he said he probably ordered the part online, which is still elite. What did you make of all of that?

Were you able to, well, I don't know, were you able to hear it? Oh, gosh, you know, I mean, part of me, I was watching some of the news last night about it, and I'm thinking, my God, this is going to dominate Baltimore news for who knows how long. I mean, it's a real Baltimore story. The Mangio's are one of the Baltimore Royals. Were you familiar with the family? My office for the Baltimore son in Howard County was in a Mangione building, Nick Mangione. He owns Turf Valley.

Yes. The golf course. I know people who live on that golf course. So, yeah, I'm very familiar with the family and the power that they wield and how sexy this is going to be for the media to have, you know, some of the most powerful, you know, people in Baltimore society affected by this story. So I think it's, you know, there's part, there's a big part of me that doesn't like these kind of stories because I call it, you know, vulture, vulture journals. I mean, you're picking the bones of dead people. No one ever remembers the guy that he killed. They're just, you know, all about, all about this mangy own kid.

But it's not my cup of tea, crime, real crime. I like fake crime. Like, I'll watch Law & Order till the cows come home. But, you know, the 48 hour, the 4,000. the final 48 or something like that? Oh, some of those are great. I can't. Some of those date lines are great.

That's real crime. And I really, I really don't want to hear about that. I've gotten sucked into like, you know, not this time of year, but, you know, in the middle of the summer, I could get sucked into three straight date lines. Oh, God, no. Or three straight 48 hours. I can't do that. Although.

But I watch, I'll watch fictional crime. I like. Yeah. I just don't like the real crime stuff. All right. That makes me queasy or anything. I just, it's just, it purports to be journalism sometimes. Yeah.

And that bothers me. Well, I think this story too. I mean, it has all the stuff with respect to the actual, you know, the killer, you know, that people always gravitate towards. I mean, he was what came from a wealthy family. He was valedictorian of his class at Gilman. He graduated, you know, with a master. from Wharton, from Penn, I think Wharton. And he was, you know, I think there's so much that's unseemly about this online.

I am not following all that. It's hard to miss some of it. You know, the people that are, you know, taking pleasure in the fact that somebody from the healthcare industry was assassinated, essentially. I'll tell you the part of the story that I'm still not clear on, and maybe this has been updated in the last 24 hours. I didn't watch any of it last night because I had the holiday party that I went to. But I still can't figure out how he knew that this gentleman would be up at 6.45 a.m. walking to get coffee, heading towards the hotel in which the investor at the conference didn't start for another hour and 15 minutes. like it just seems to me that someone else had to be providing him with some information on him moving that early in the morning.

But what do I know? You know, I watched, I was watching Baltimore News and they had a reporter standing outside the Gilman School in Baltimore, very prestigious private school. And what was funny is that Gilman had a guy with a leaf blower following the reporter around. With the leaf blower on. For the noise. For the noise to make their broadcast miserable. Well, that's silly, too. I know it is.

I mean, you know. I know it is. It is silly. I mean, it makes you look small. Really small. When you do something like that. But I thought it was funny. It also makes you very, you come off as like too self-important.

Like, this can't possibly happen here. Well, that was the deal. Yeah, well, you know. All right. We have some things to get to. We got to talk Bill Belichick. We got to talk stadium bill. We've got to get your prediction

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that three weeks from now, I'll be heading south. Oh, God, it's back already. Yes. I'll be heading down to... Will you be doing any karaoke? Well, I told you, Tommy Purify retired. I know, Tommy. He was driven

out of the business by, you know, the mob. Right. You know, I don't... The Lod drove him out of the business With an offer that just was too good to be true. And so I was depressing, so I don't see how Tommy Purify can come back. I think, look, you got an audience, that's for sure. You got people that believe.

But you see, you know, the singing comes from deep inside. You know, it's not just superficial bullshit. Yeah, but the dancing's part of your act anyways. No, I don't dance. Remember, that's one of the complaints. I don't move enough. You barely move. You barely move.

Yes. All right. Your prediction for Sunday. Washington wins 17 to 10. It's going to be an ugly game. An ugly game. Yes. 17 to 10.

But they win. You know, they do enough to win. The Saints, they don't have a quarterback, probably. You know, so, but they've been pretty good defensively, right? Yeah. They've been okay defensively. Recently, they've been good. Yes.

They had the Rams shut out at halftime two weeks ago. 17 to 10. So that's what I've got. 17 to 10. You have a footnote? Do you have, I mean, you usually have something to go with it. Well, you know, you require vision to have a footnote, and I don't have very good vision.

You've got to be able to see your feet to have a footnote? Yes. I was wondering, what if they didn't make the playoffs? Let me just, let me back up. They're going to make the playoffs. They're going to win two games. They're going to win the tie. Some of you have said, don't forget, you know, Rams and who do you root for tonight?

Look, somebody's going to win the NFC West, and then the runner-up, Washington's going to have a tiebreaker advantage over if they get to 10 wins. The NFC South, you know, they're going to have a chance against Atlanta head-to-head. And if they beat Atlanta, then more likely than not Tampa is going to win the division. So I think two wins is really solid. but I was thinking that the expectations have changed so much. Absolutely. And that at the beginning of the year, if they went 10 and 7 and missed the postseason or 9 and 8 and missed the postseason barely and Jaden was the offensive rookie of the year,

we would have all taken that and celebrated that. But this just goes to show that when we're having these preseason conversations, context is everything. and you just don't know what the details are going to be. I think most people would have signed up for nine wins and your quarterback as the rookie of the year. Of course. I think they would have signed up for seven wins

with the quarterback being the rookie of the year. And if they didn't, if they, let's just say somehow didn't make it at 10 and 7, or they lost three of their final four. Let's just say they got upset Sunday, lost to Philly, lost to Atlanta. Or let's just say they won Sunday, They lost to Philly, lost to Atlanta, and then somehow lost to the Cowboys again.

It would be devastating. Oh, absolutely. Devastating. Absolutely. You would not be able to say, it's okay. Their last three. The quarterback was rookie of the year. Especially if the Cowboys game is the game that decides they make the playoffs and they lose it.

So here's my question. We both agree that it would be devastating. Absolutely. I mean, people will eventually pull themselves back. How long? It'll be until free agency starts. But here's my question. Would they go from all of this trust that has been built up through 13 games in the coach, in the coaching staff, in the front office?

Would they lose that trust if they were to lose three of their final four games and miss the post season? Well, I think that the team and therefore the fans can point to the fact that, their wide receiver core now is just down one less, Noah Brown, out with some kind of horrible internal injury. Kidney. Yeah, kidney thing. So they lost one of Jane Daniels' most reliable receivers. They lost the Hail Mary guy.

Yeah, they did. Austin Echler, who's been a tremendous asset form of running back, you know, still out under concussion protocol. So I think you could argue and you could be. probably rationalized as a fan. Well, they were diminished at the end of the season. They didn't have much to go with except the quarterback and wide receiver. And I mean, basically you could say it was Jaden Daniels, Terry McClure, and Brian Robinson.

Okay. And everybody else was kind of like an afterthought. And, you know, they weren't in a position to afford to lose much. And if somebody doesn't step forward, that what you, you just said could possibly happen. So I think people can come to grips with it because of the losses that they've incurred on their personnel-wise. Sunday's a big game because if they were to lose, well, it would be four or five, first of all. Yes.

It would put them now, I mean, they could be Sunday night in a tie with the Rams for the seven spot. Now, they would own the tiebreaker advantage over them for the time being. Let me just make sure that that's true. I'm pretty sure that's true. I think I've looked at this about 20 times this week. Washington's conference record would fall to 5 and 4, and the Rams would be at 5 and 5. So Washington would have the tiebreaker advantage,

so they'd still be in the 7th spot, but they could be tied with 8 and 6 records. And then you're looking at Philadelphia coming in, and then it's like, uh-oh, we in big trouble. So Sunday's really big. They really need to take care of business. I would not present this as a should-win game like I almost did, like I did with Dallas. I did not do it with Tennessee because I thought Tennessee was more capable than Dallas.

I don't think that that's this kind of game. I mean, Derek Carr is likely not going to play. And you're going to get a backup quarterback. For the third time this year, they'll face a backup quarterback. But there is a player on that, team, Alvin Camara, that's capable of, you know, really against a team that struggled to stop the run of maybe impacting the game so that it's 17 to 10 and it's close at the end. Who knows? Chase Young, I wonder how motivated he'll be to face his former. I know. I heard you on your radio show.

You had Matt Parrish on my old buddy. Yep, your former cohort. And I know, you know, he talked about Chase Young's just coming off his best game as a saint. Pressure-wise, yeah. You know, still no sacks, but a lot of pressures. I think he's got three and a half sacks for the year, but he didn't have any sacks Sunday, even though he led the team in pressures. Yeah, so, you know, you're right. He's probably motivated, and he's playing probably his best football right now for them.

You know, I've got something, it's all about perspective, and I've got something that I think, I think, would help give commanders fans perspective, even in a dark moment at this point. If we get to a dark moment. Right. But you can even enjoy it now, okay, even if they're playing well. I can enjoy a dark moment right now. No, you can enjoy what I'm going to throw out to you as a gift. We'll throw it out.

Okay. Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers is probably going to play someplace else next year. If this was before for 25 years, he'd be coming Washington. That would be the discussion. The whole off season would be about the Aaron Rogers sweeps. matter how poorly he played for the Jets or how bad the Jets did, it would all be about Aaron Rogers again, you know, and that would dominate the discussion, you know,

that would, and you'd be getting Aaron Rogers at 40 years old, you know. 41 years old, you know, but you'd still have Aaron Rogers. You don't have to think about that anymore. You don't have to, you know, that situation doesn't, exists for somebody to screw up anymore. You don't have to tie just to Aaron Rogers. By the way, I'd probably be pushing for that because I didn't think he was terrible this year.

But that's the horse you've been riding all year. You don't want to get off. Well, because I've watched the games because they've been on so much. Talk about vision, man. You've got vision. You watch a lot of football boy. I do watch a lot of football. Boy, you do.

You see this game and that game. I was watching this game and that game. You wouldn't believe how many times my way. wife says to me, this is not the biggest game of the year. You said that about the last game. So I think the fact that the commanders will not be in the Aaron Rogers sweepstakes is something that should make everyone feel good about where this team is. But what I'm saying is it could be, it's just the quarterback conversation in general that we won't have to go through that. No. Because it could have been Sam Darnold. It could have been James Winston. But those guys, they're big players.

You're talking about the biggest drama queen. You'd be talking about the big. People would be fixated on the drama queen of the NFL. Yeah, but if it was the old group, Aaron Rogers, would never come here. You know what? He may not have much of a choice. If he wants to play, somebody will sign him. Actually, I say that, and he went to the Jets.

Yes. You know, so, yeah, it's possible. All right. So just remember Aaron Rogers, you don't have to worry about that conversation. anymore with Jane Daniels at quarterback. No matter what happens the rest of the year. I know, but when you say that, it's like, I hear you, and you're fixated on Aaron Rogers, he hasn't been like every offseason conversation because he wasn't available.

Right. But it's every off season was, what are we doing a quarterback? Yes. Yes, so it's the quarterback conversation. Yes. But in particular, this quarterback situation, you know, you've got Pat McAvey side. kick that you're dealing with. All right. 1710, Tommy is picking Washington to beat the Saints to move their record to

nine and five and keep open and keep the possibility. Well, actually, even if they lose, the possibility will exist of winning 11 games for the first time since 1991. That is in play if they win three. They'll do it if they win three of their final four. All right. We'll finish up with Belichick in the stadium deal. and where that is right after these words from a few of our sponsors.

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Absolutely. Right across the street from the national. Press Club. All right. Before we get to Belichick in the stadium, Bill, I did have one other thing from the last segment that I wanted to mention, and that is, you know, that Noah Brown injury, which I talked about on yesterday's show, is another indication that this group, they're not big on kind of sharing injury news with anybody, you know, or specifics.

I mean, we had the whole Jaden with the rib and, you know, but with Noah Brown, nobody before yesterday knew that this was a serious injury. Right. And they were dealing apparently with an acute situation, whether it was in the stadium against Tennessee when he got hurt or in the locker room afterwards or maybe the next day, I don't know, or that night. But it was, you know, it was a scary situation for him. We didn't hear any, they were on a biweek. We didn't hear anything until yesterday. And even when Quinn talked about it, he didn't mention the kidney. No.

Like, so. You know, they treated it like a hockey team talking about an upper body injury. Yeah, lower body injury. Yeah. It was referred to as a rib injury. I think it's interesting because we're just learning, you know, about this group and how they handle things. And they're not big on, you know, other than, you know, even when Dan Quinn talks about a player, you know, he's always talking about, well, he's got this marker and this marker, you know, this milestone, and he's, you know, making progress. But we've got to hit these things.

He's never talking, you know, specifics about time or even the injuries sometimes. You know, I don't know. It's probably for competitive reasons. It's the way they want to do it. I don't have a problem with it at all. I just think it's interesting, whereas I think with the last regime, we got lots of detail and we got head coaches sitting in surgeries, you know, and watching surgeries. And we, and by the way.

You don't miss those days? Oh, God. And we had a training staff that got, you know, that was pretty dicey. Oh, a little bit. Yeah. A little bit. It sounds like this group really handled it well. So let's start with this stadium bill story from the post.

You didn't have this one, did you? No, I did not have this one. I did not have the whole key bridge segment. So another story from the post, Sam 40A, Aaron Cox, Michael Bryce Sadler, that Muriel Bowser in a meeting yesterday with the federal city council, said that we're quote being held hostage by Maryland

closed quote what the post learned and what is that Bowser revealed that Maryland is now asking for the federal government to fully fund efforts to rebuild the collapsed Francis Scott

Key Bridge an estimated cost of 1.9 billion for yes votes on the RF case site bill. By the way, we are now down to seven working days. Today, tomorrow, five days next week. If it doesn't get attached to that defense bill and get passed that way, it's done. And they'll have to start all over. So Bowser said, quote, we're being held hostage by Maryland. She told her colleagues at this meeting. She also said that she doesn't think the RFK bill can be held up by

Maryland for this specific request for bridge funding. We got the, you know, fighter jets for the National Guard, quid pro quo last week. Right. And then you've got the whole, what are you going to do with the stadium after you leave it? Right. Which is what you had first. Yeah. Yes.

Yeah, which is, you know, look, the key, unlike other, I understand the way fans think, but if you're, if you're Maryland legislators like Chris Van Hohen and others, you're not, you're going to use this for as much leverage. as you get. If you could get the government to fully fund, you know, the key bridge for this, of course, you're going to push for that. There's no way that they'll get that for signing the RF case. I know that. I'm saying that. I don't think so. Yeah. I don't think so. You know what? The commander's soldiers could say, you know what? We'll build the bridge. They could say, don't worry about it. We'll fund it. We'll build the bridge. We'll build the bridge.

So there you go. I mean, right now, it's in limbo. Yeah, it is. I mean, with seven days to get this thing done. Actually, Maryland is holding the team hostage, not necessarily the district. You said something last week that I agreed to you, agreed with you in the moment, but then I thought about it and I really agree with you. The fact that Maryland is trying to extract so much right now at the 11th hour

means that Van Hollen and Cardin and maybe also Brooks, will be coming into the Senate. They know it's going to D.C. Well, they know that they'll be having ownership group that they'll be kicking and dragging into Maryland. I think they know that the owners want to put it in D.C.

Right. Yeah. You wouldn't be throwing these haymakers here at the end. If you didn't have a sense that you weren't going to, you know, if you, this is what the owners want. This is what they want to do. And by the way, I've said this a

times. That's what their own constituents want actually, that are Redskins fans. Oh, I know. You know, they want it in RFK. It doesn't mean that they shouldn't be doing what's in the best interest to their state, understood. Bill Belichick takes the North Carolina job. I mean, this is, you would have been checked into a mental institution a week ago if you had mentioned this as a possibility. Yeah. You know, I know you read the ESPN story. I've heard you reading from. I've heard you reading from it on your radio show. I read the athletic story about it. I have not read the ESP.

I read the athletic story too. Okay. Yeah. And what was interesting about the athletic story is that they claim that this is all about control. This is all about how, you know, like he never felt. Oh, you're talking about the Seth Wickersham story. Yes. I saw that at the end of the radio show and I can read from it.

It's you like him as a reporter. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Yeah, I do. Okay, but go ahead. The athletic story really put the focus on, on Belichick's desire for control and the fact that it was clear he wasn't going to get that

from an NFL team, even if an NFL team offered him a job. That Atlanta, you know, he went down, he thought he had the job in Atlanta, and then Arthur, Arthur Blank, backed off when he realized what Belichick wanted, total control of the football operation. Right. Now, he can have that in North Carolina,

but it's going to be much harder to control. okay because you're going to have to control college presidents you're going to have to control trustees you're going to have to control donors you know i don't i i'm not saying bill blanche balashek doesn't know what he's getting into but you can have control of a program but you have a lot more to control than you do an NFL team and the NFL team they always had to sign at the Patriots you know keep the noise out or ignore the noise well the noise for college football programs comes from within your family, usually. Yeah. Comes from within the benefactors and the donors and the trustees. That's going to be hard for him to control. Well, the number one thing that he can't control is who comes to play for him. Yes.

You know, this is the part that, you know, will he be excellent at recruiting? Will they have the budget that, you know, the big time football schools have? both from a salary cap standpoint, which is going to be a new thing in college football next year and an NIL budget. And then you've got to convince kids. You're not drafting them where they have to come play for you. Right.

You're not, you know, it's more equivalent to free agency, but there's no draft here. And, you know, there are the big difference between college football and pro football in terms of the product, the on-field product. is that there are major disparities in talent in college football matchups. The talent difference in the NFL is minuscule, and it's designed that way. It's designed so that the worst teams have a chance to compete with the draft order,

with salary caps. Coaching means a lot in college football, means even more at the pro level. I'm really fascinated with this, by the way. from a college football fan standpoint. Like, I can't wait to see North Carolina take the feel with Belichick as the coach to see if they're much better coached. If he adapts to the college game, which is more like the pro game than it's ever been before, if he's able to get the players and the five stars, a couple of five stars each year and load up on the fours and identify the threes. And I don't know how it's going to work.

I still think, you know, you mentioned, I, I think a big part of it is clearly there was an expectation that getting back into the NFL this year wasn't going to be easy for him. Right. And so he decided to jump the gun and not go through that maybe an embarrassment. Because the Seth Wickersham story essentially says that there's been a handful of his former assistants along with him that they've had these Zoom calls and get-together as weekly. It's included Matt Patricia. Michael Lombardi, who's going to North Carolina, to kind of be his GM, Josh McDaniels, and that they've gone through the potential openings.

And like Chicago, Seth Wickersham writes, they thought, you know, the group thought, according to sources, that the Chicago job was the most attractive job because of Caleb Williams and probably the roster too, but that they understood that Chicago is probably going to go with an offensive guy like Ben Johnson, if Johnson's available. The Jets were a non-starter because of Woody Johnson. The Giants are a possibility, but Belichick essentially thinks it's going to be too big of a rebuild. Dallas was a potential spot,

but nobody knew if Jerry Jones would move on from Mike McCarthy, and if he did, if he'd want to hand over the team to Belichick. Jacksonville was another potential landing spot, but there's no real ties to the cons with Belichick, apparently. So I think they started this group that he's put together. They started to look at the possibilities. And he was thinking, I'm going to get shut out potentially from an NFL job for two years in a row. I'm not doing that.

It'd be embarrassing. And I want to coach. And he did. This story also indicated that he had become more infatuated with college football because his son is Stephen is the defensive coordinator at Washington. and then guys like Bill O'Brien have gone back to coach college football. Bill O'Brien did a phenomenal job this year at Boston College. You know, he was obviously with Bill for several stints in New England. And he, the sources told Wickersham that this kind of reinforced and reaffirmed

that there was another option out there for him and it was college football. North Carolina is a pleasant place to be, but it's not upper echelon college football. No, it's not. Like you pointed out on your show, sports at North Carolina is basketball first and you drop five steps and then football comes second. Yeah. You know, what's interesting about this is Belichick, if he felt embarrassed by this, what he could have done as a preemptive strike when he first got fired was announce he was retiring. Because you can announce you're retired all you want.

And as we've seen from Bill Cower, that doesn't mean you're not sought after as a candidate. You know, this way, he could have said, well, no, I'm not coaching anymore. I'm retired. And if he got passed over, it wouldn't be embarrassed. But now everyone has known that he's been bucking for a job. So, yeah, it would be embarrassing for him if he got passed over a second time. You know what? God, that would have been, I mean, it's easy in hindsight because he didn't get a job.

but in some ways he probably would have been more sought after when he retired. Yes. I mean, the forbidden fruit. Exactly. The guy who's out there, no,

I'm not coaching anymore, you know? Yeah, the goat didn't figure that out last year. I mean, look how long people have pursued Bill Cowher. Yeah. For years.

And he kept telling people, no, I'm retired. A lot of people did that with Gibbs. Yeah. For years. Yeah. So the one thing I want to say about Belichick,

I want to, you know, admit to being wrong about something. You know, maybe it's this lack of vision that's given me. You want to do that? Yeah.

Yeah. But I always maintain that that Belichick could not possibly be the guy in public that we see behind the scenes with his team. He couldn't lead men and be that big of an asshole as, you know, behind the scenes. That he's probably got a totally different kind of character away from the media. Well, I've watched over the past couple of months. It's popped up on my Facebook video feed. A lot of Julian Edelman podcast clips. Okay.

And based on the stories that he's told, that him and his teammates have told. Belichick was as big as asshole behind the scenes. Yeah, but they respected the hell out of them. Yes, they did. So his whole power was that they felt their best chance to succeed always was with him. Yeah. But I always thought you can't lead men and treat people that way. He was a dick.

Well, I don't get that completely. I get that he was not, you know, that he was just always, always obsessed with whatever it was that needed to happen to win the next game. And because of that, they messed with him a lot of times. Like there's a story that Bill O'Brien actually told with Edelman, I think. It was on something about, oh my God, I'm forgetting who it was now. It was an assistant coach that came in without his shoes on, like one day. There's, I can't remember who the assistant coach was, and he just knew that, like, that would get under Bill's skin so much. And finally, Bill couldn't control himself.

So what the fuck are you doing without shoes on? Go get your shoes on him. Forgetting who the assistant was. But he wasn't such a dick that they didn't mess with him every once in a while. in that way. I mean, they felt comfortable enough to do that on occasion. I have heard from people who have spent time, you know, with him, you know, interviewing him or in situations where, you know, they're both speaking or they're both there to be honored or whatever, that he is a really interesting guy and a great guy. I know that, but that's away from football.

Yeah, away from football. North Carolina, you can win at North Carolina with a 12-10. team playoff. You know, it's different nowadays. But it's not ever going to be number one at that school. It will be for a short period of time because it's Bill Belichick. But that state is about college basketball and golf, really, that stage is. And college football, like I said to Denton this morning, I'm like, when's the last time we were sitting here in a college football segment at any point talking about North Carolina other than when it came

to Drake May and Sam Howl. Yeah. Because they had two you know, quarterbacks. They're not a terrible program. But they just, you know, they've had very few moments of actual competing for something. I mean, they go to the Belk Bowl

and the Duke's Mayo Bowl basically every year. It is a great place to live. Like that was part of my thing too. I wonder if it's like, you know, there's this idea and I haven't read it like it's part of the deal, but he's getting paid 10 million a year reportedly, but that his son, Stephen, could be the coach in waiting there. He wouldn't be able to do that at the NFL level now. No way. And that campus and that community and that

market is really first tier and has been for a while now. And so anyway, all right, what else do you have? The Nats got the first pick in the lottery. Do you want to say anything about that? Well, I mean, there's nothing to say except how great news that is. Right. That's great news, you know? I mean, considering the last two times they had the number one pick, they picked Strasbourg and Bryce Harper, they've done pretty good when they've gotten the number one pick. And who do you think that pick will be?

Well, everyone thinks it's Ethan Holiday, Jackson Holliday's brother. Matt Holliday's son. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know that much about amateur baseball to tell you if that's a good pick or bad pick. You haven't scouted schoolboy ball? No. You know, I used to, but then, you know, like Clint Eastwood and that movie where he was a scout, you know, my eyes are going. So I can't scout like I used to.

No, you can't. No, it's, well, it's trouble with the curve. And it's all about, you know, hearing it. You got to hear it. Okay. You know. I've heard too much already in the past hour and a half. Amy Adams was pretty good in that movie.

She's pretty good in everything. She's pretty good in everything. Maybe the fighter was her best movie. Yeah. That was pretty good. She was really good in that movie. He was really good in that. It's a good movie.

That is an excellent movie. Yes. All right. I'll talk to you on Tuesday. If you need any help getting out of here, I'll walk you out. Back tomorrow with Jay Gruden.