The Kevin Sheehan Show - Nats + JD5 Ranked Again

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

Kevin and Thom today with plenty on the Nats' trades, Jayden Daniels' ranking in Mike Sando's The Athletic QB survey, WSOP, Bumstock, and a lot more including Thom's exceptional time-management skills.   For all your football betting needs: DCRELOAD at MyBookie for a 50% Deposit Match   Chime is not just smarter banking, it is the most rewarding way to bank. Head to www.Chime.com/SHEEHAN. It only takes a few minutes to sign up.   New Cash App customers can earn $10 if they use code FAMILY10 in their profile at signup and send $5 to a friend within 14 days. Terms apply. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Sheehan Show. He is Kevin. Tommy's here. I am here. The show's presenting sponsor is always Window Nation.

86690 Nation for WindowNation. Orwindonation.com. Do Windows, Tommy. This from Xavier. Xavier Wright just sat down on the beach in Lagos, Portugal. ready to listen to Kevin Sheehan's show at 3 p.m. local 10 a.m. Eastern and then realized it's Sunday. Island time ain't that bad. Hashtag HTTR. Thank you for that, Xavier. He was sitting down to listen to the radio show if he was planning on listening at 10 a.m. Eastern. But still, you know what? You do get confused when you're on vacation.

don't you? And I think probably more so on warm weather vacations. Like, what day is it? What time is it? Can I get another drink? Please. Always fun to be on vacation. I never get confused about that. Yeah, I know. You're just, you're not someone that can get confused. Because this is what I always preach to people. And this is a simple thing. Always know what time it is. Because I can't tell you how many people I've been with, where all of a sudden they'll look at the clock and they'll say, oh my God, it's six o'clock already?

That never happens to me. I always pretty much know at any time during the day what time it is. It seems simple, but it's not. Is it crucial on a weekend to know exactly what time it is? I think time is, time management is crucial. I'm not obsessed with it. It sounds like you are. You're very proud of the fact that you always know what time it is,

and you don't understand how people don't. Over this weekend, at Bumstock, which was fabulous, absolutely fabulous. Somebody was giving me grief about screen time on the phone. And I said to him, I say, whatever I want to do during the day, I pretty much get done. you know it's not like i i'm leaving 10 things on the table because i'm reading my phone for an hour well maybe you don't have a little maybe you i wanted to maybe you don't have a big to do list maybe it's just a couple things that are easy to knock out well that's time management i i guess

but it's easier to time look time management i actually believe for me i'm much better better and I am probably much more aware of what time it is, when I am swamped, when I am very busy, it's all relative. But when I'm busy, from the moment I wake up until the moment I go to sleep, I've got things to do, I actually think that's when I function best. I'm at my most productive, and I manage time well.

Sometimes not so much on the radio show or the podcast. But when I am on vacation and there isn't a long to-do list, that's when I can do what I guess many of your elderly friends did at Bumstock and say to you, oh, my God, it's 6 o'clock already. Where did this fun day go to? Well, that does not happen to me. It doesn't happen to you. No, it just doesn't. I just, I'm always aware to however means necessary, pretty much what, generally, what time it is during the day. What time is it right now?

It's 110. I'm looking at the clock. Me too. Yep. We are getting the show rolling pretty quickly today, right after the radio show ended. Sometimes we'll record it in the morning before the radio show begins, but not today. We're getting it started quickly. I will tell you, I lost track of time last night now that we bring up time. I actually looked at my oldest son who was in town. He headed back home to the West Coast this morning.

But I looked at him at some point and I said, oh my God, it's 1 a.m. Why am I still watching this? I was watching with him last night the World Series of Poker. on ESPN 2. It was night one of the main event, the main table, the final table of nine players. And we started watching this at 9 o'clock, roughly. Oh, my gosh. At one point I said, when is this going to end?

Like, when is this night one going to end? And he said, I'm not exactly sure. And that was like at 1130. And I swear to you. Not because you just brought it up. I looked at my watch and said, oh, my God, it's 1 a.m. What am I doing? Good night.

And it was still going on. I have to say that that World Series of Poker, have you ever watched it? We've never talked about poker on this show. I covered it in person. You did? What year? Well, it was the last year. I think it was at Binions. know, the original home for it.

Okay. And there were only about 800 players. That was a big deal that there were 800 players. It's jumped tremendously since then. But in Old Vegas at the old Binions horseshoe, I, I, that's, well, it's at the horseshoe. That's exactly where it is. It's at the horseshoe.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Because they had moved it for a while. That's where, that's where it is, was last night. Okay. So yeah, I went there covering it and some very interesting characters. Yeah, the characters were not the story necessarily last night. There were a couple of interesting cases.

Look, I'm not a poker expert. The poker revolution passed over me. I'm still a sports better. And when I'm in a casino and you know this because we've been in casinos together, I play craps and blackjack, and that's it. I don't play slots. I don't play roulette. I don't play any other.

I play blackjack and craps. But I have played poker more recently in a poker room because my oldest son and my nephew are into it. And I've gone and I've met them, I don't know, three times out of the last five years in Vegas. I'm not encouraging this behavior. That horse left the barn. there's not much I can do other than to say don't gamble.

It's not the smart thing to do to gamble, but living in L.A. like he was, it was a short trip. And so they were into poker. So I sat in, you know, a couple of nights for a few hours. And it's fun. But it's not the thing that I would prefer to do. But last night, I got sucked into it. I got sucked into kind of watching the strategies and watching how certain dudes were playing hands. And I'm telling you, I have a desire the next time I'm in a casino to go right to the poker room and sit down and find it.

By the way, there's a lot of camaraderie at a poker table if you get the right group. But there's also a lot of camaraderie at a dice table. There's a lot of camaraderie if you got the right people at a blackjack table. So you can have a lot of that. but the poker thing can last forever. I've never gotten into it. I've done it. Not a lot.

But last night, I just kept watching it over and over again. And there weren't that many riveting hands either. It was kind of a dull night. You know, they were comparing it to how many hands were in play compared to other previous World Series of poker finals. But man, some of these dudes have made some big, money, big money. Boys and girls, this is what happens when you don't know what time it is.

I don't think they knew what time it was last night. That's for sure. That thing kept going on and on, and they eliminated ultimately two players from the nine. So they'll continue tonight with seven, and I think tonight and tomorrow night are on ESPN. I guess it gets good ratings. Look, I'm very familiar with, you know, poker and whatever. it's been online. All of my friends in warm weather locales that provide me with some insight during

football season were very much involved in the online poker world. And I've looked at a business plan or two over the years, not in recent years, but I'm talking about 20, 25 years ago. And so I'm very familiar with how it just absolutely took off and how big it is today. but I just never got into it as a player consistently. And yet there I was last night for no less than four hours. I'm not exactly sure how long it was because I wasn't paying attention to the time. But it was somewhere in the neighborhood of four hours watching the World Series of Poker main event final table.

Anyway, binions. Wow. And back then there were some characters. Phil Ivey. I hung out with Amarillo Slim. Who's that? He was a legendary gambler, kind of like a Bobby Riggs type of gambler.

He won the World Series of poker in 1972, but he had a book that came out the year I was there. So he kind of latched on the maze, so I'd write about him, which I did, because he was an interesting character. You know, he'd make bets on the golf course, all kinds of different beds. Yeah, he looks like it.

He looks like a guy that could have been a character in casino, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. You know, this was not the intention here in the opening segment, but I don't know if you saw this story about Shohay Otani's, you know, interpreter that obviously stole a lot of money from Shohay Otani. There's a lot of suspiciousness around the whole story and how much Shohay Otani, you know, was, you know, involved in the actual betting. But some of the details have come out in a show called The Betrayal of Shohay Otani, which was released the other day.

And the bookie for Shohay Otani's interpreter, I mean, some of the quote, in this story on ESPN are really interesting. He says about Shohei Otani's interpreter Ipe Mizuhara. He's the guy that, you know, is in jail for essentially, you know, stealing money from Otani. The book he said about him, quote, he was absolutely bananas, the amount of bets he was making. He was trying to dig out of a hole, and that hole made him even more poor of a gambler because he's betting big pay. out stuff, you know, which to me says like big parlays and big, you know, long shot things. By the way, boys and girls, if you are gamblers and you get into a hole, stop digging.

That's really good advice. And if you're going to try to dig, don't do it with exotics. Don't do it with long shots. That's not going to get you out of the hole. but how about there was one part of this story that I wanted to read to you because I bet that you know what this is

Miss O'Hara by the way admitted to stealing nearly $17 million from Otani to pay off his gambling debts to his bookie Boyer. Boyer, by the way, was also in trouble for essentially trying to launder some of this money through casinos out in Vegas. But are you familiar with the Vegas black book.

Do you know what that is? Not really, no. Okay, you've never heard of the Vegas black book, nor had I. So apparently, uh, Mizuhara is now on the Nevada casino black book, which means he is permanently banned from entering Nevada casinos, um, making him one of a about three dozen, okay, 36 living people in the state's black book. So I looked up the Vegas casino black book, and it's all mobsters in the book. You know, all former, you know, mafia guys that are no longer allowed to enter casinos. Hold on. I had this list up. Here's the

the black book is the nickname frequently used to refer to a list of people who are unwelcoming casinos the name is due to people listed being blacklisted the term can refer either to such a list officially maintained by a particular gaming control board or in the u.s to the griffin book whose information is shared among subscribing casinos this is by the way the wikipedia page uh right now The book consists of 39 individuals with the most recent edition being Matthew Boyer, known primarily as the illegal bookkeeper involved in the Shohei Otani gambling scandal. Now, the list I found somewhere else, the excluded list. Oh, here it is.

This was 37 people in the Nevada Gaming Controls board's list of excluded persons, aka the Black Book. Um, okay. Frankie, Frankie Larry Lefty Rosenthal. And, Oh, that's, that's the casino guy. Once the entertainment director of the Stardust and the Argent Corporation,

he was allegedly associated with mob figures and pled no contest to a charge of conspiracy to bribe a college basketball player, his story was fictionalized in the Martin Scorsese film Casino as Sam Ace Rothstein. portrayed by Robert De Niro. I didn't realize that that's who De Niro played. You did. Yes. Also, remember Joe Pesci playing Nikki in Casino.

Well, that was him portraying Anthony Joseph, aka Tony the Aunt Spillotro. Spilotro. Oh, Tony Spallotro. A badass, badass gangster. I just read somewhere that Joe Pesci almost looked like him in real life and acted like him when he was in the casino scenes. The Chicago Mops enforcer in Las Vegas, whose badly beaten body was found in an Indiana cornfield.

That is a difficult scene to watch when Joe Pesci and his brother are in the cornfield. and they are done. Now, these guys are still on the list, but most of them are dead. I'm just going down the list. Let me see if I can find a non-Italian name. Where's a good old Irishman somewhere? No. They don't make it as far as Vegas.

No, they're all Italian. But the book that was taking all the bets from Shohei Otani's interpreter is now on the black book as one of 39. Interesting. Now, apparently Atlantic City has a similar book, and there are 850 names in that book. Whoa. That would speak to right proximity to Jersey, New York, Philly,

and the number of mafia in that area. I mean, you've seen, I mean, we've seen. I mean, we've both been to Atlantic City in Vegas. There is a big difference in the clientele. Big difference. Are you okay? Do you know what time it is? Yes, I do.

It's 124. All right, well, let's move on to something else. I got this from Quinn. Quinn writes, Shannon Leverro better than any insider, including Logan Pulsin. insight. Blind insight is more fun. He's accusing both of us of being blind insiders. Logan Paulson was on the show the other day. Logan's excellent. He's an excellent insider.

He's not really an insider. He's just a very good analyst. I guess he's somewhat of an insider. But Quinn accuses us of being blind, of having blind insight. Okay. Well, then don't play my smell test picks in the fall, Quinn. I guess 60... There you go. I guess 62% isn't good enough for you. Tell them what time it is, buddy. What time is it?

You know, I've been... It's smell test time. I've been getting a little bit nervous about the smell test, because we are within a month away from perhaps the first smell test picks, because college football, you know, basically starts in three weeks from Saturday. And last year was, I think, my third best season at 62, just over 62%. Do you know how hard it is to go 62%? I do.

Yeah. I always tell people that if you're a 52% better, you're doing good. Well, you're breaking even at 52.6 if you're paying normal juice on a loss. Right. 62. I've actually had people say to me some of the dopes that you and I hear from occasionally on social media. What's so great about 62%. I've read about guys that are hitting 80%. Let me just tell you, those guys that you've read about that are hitting at 80% are liars. It doesn't happen. 62% is excessive. exceptional for a football season.

And if you bet all my picks and only my picks, you had a very healthy season. So take that, Quinn. That didn't blind. I saw, I had clarity last year. Total clarity. I have never pretended to be an insider. No. You know, that's a new term, insider.

I'll tell you what, the insiders are doing a great job of breaking down. training camp every day. They are. Great job. There seems to be an increase this year in training camp videos and play-by-play of what's going on out there. Yes. And by the way, the occasional description of a play, but not the entire description of the play because they're not allowed to reveal certain elements of what went into the play.

Now, that's an insider. That's an insider. That is an insider. They got secrets. Do you know, you know this, that RG3's first training camp when we were out there, and I think we did our show there a few days, and I noticed that they were lining him up in the pistol, which was not a formation that had been used in the NFL, but was a formation that was becoming somewhat popular in college football

in some of the lesser conferences. Chris Alt, the head coach at Nevada, was running the pistol formation with Colin Kaepernick. And I got on the show one day, and I said, I'll tell you, I got an observation. They're running the pistol formation with RG3. And that's a formation that's a college formation. A couple of teams in the whack and in the, you know, in some of the conferences out west.

They run it. This guy at Nevada runs it. And, you know, it's different than the shotgun in that the back's actually directly behind the quarterback. And I got a little bit of addressing down on that. I was told not to discuss specifically what I was observing at. training camp with respect to that. And so that was that. That was the last time I mentioned the pistol until, of course, shock and awe and the

open in 2012 when he was lined up in the pistol. So I do understand that, you know, the guys out there on the beat covering training camp every day, they can tell you some things, but they can't tell you everything. You can't give away the secrets, Tommy. Nope. Can't do that. insider. An insider is, I know so much I can't tell you. I know so much about what I am seeing. I just can't tell you because they won't let me. All right. I do want your thoughts on the

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So when we were last together on Thursday of last week, the Nats had lost to the Blue Jays, which was unfortunate because that was the first series they had lost coming out of the All-Star break. And then they promptly went to Atlanta where they were swept.

They lost last night at Philadelphia. They've lost six in a row. and they became sellers at the trade deadline, selling Luis Garcia Jr. to the Yankees and also dealing Foster Griffin yesterday to Cleveland. They did not trade C.J. Abrams. I mean, I would think it would have been impossible to trade C.J. Abrams. Now he's a different player than probably the player they thought he would be before the season began. But I'll let you give all, you know, everybody that's listening your thoughts.

on what the Nats decided to do with two big deals, Garcia Jr. and Foster Griffin. Well, look, I'm going to focus on one thing that baseball operations president, Paul Tumani told reporters. First of all, in terms of the trades, I mean, if you had said at beginning of the year that you were going to turn over Foster Griffin into four, you know, minor leaguers were minor or major leaguers, and two pitchers are probably going to be on the roster,

you know, I think most people would have taken that. But that was before we saw what Foster Griffin was going to do this year. And the impact he had on this team's winning. But generally, if you said at the beginning of this year, you could

turn over Garcia and Griffin into this amount of play players. Most people would have bought into that. But the season didn't under fall that way. And despite the collapse here, they are far from being out of it in terms of being competitive for a wild card spot. It almost seems like they were, they couldn't wait for the floor to drop so they could turn around and be sellers. Okay, but this is something what Paul Tabani told report. that I think is so tone-death. Somebody was asked him about balancing, you know, the present with the future. And he said, it's one of the hardest things about my job, balancing the here and now with the future. Here's the part that drives me nuts.

I think every baseball fan that's really, really into it, understands it. Here's what's the problem with that. The thousands of fans who aren't showing up at Natch Park on a regular basis, they're not really, really into it. They're just into it. You know, they just want to be entertained. The thousands and thousands of dollars in corporate money that aren't going to the nationals, those corporate buyers, they're not really, really.

into it. Okay, this is, I mean, basically what he's saying is, if you're part of this geek army that does spreadsheets and, and evaluates from your living room, minor league players with all the data that is out there to do so, he's saying that's, they get it.

They understand me. So the level of arrogance and cluelessness in this comment to me it's just ridiculous. And it speaks volumes to the whole analytics movement. Yeah, I just pulled up the statement from him and, you know, I totally agree with you.

It's very arrogant and condescending, really, to a large portion of people that might call themselves fans of the team. Now, he's probably right, but you can't say it. You can't say that in that way. Even if he's right, you're talking about a small, small. Yeah, that's why you can't say it. You don't basically say, look, if you're smart and understand how baseball works,

you understand this. If you're not, you don't understand it. You can't say that. you have, even if it's true that what they're doing, you know, maybe, well, let me ask you this first. Do you think the losing streak over the weekend impacted either the Garcia Jr. or the Foster Griffin trade, maybe both? I think it impacted the Foster Griffin trade. I think Garcia, I think they felt they could make up Garcia's power. God, man. in the long-up.

Garcia Jr., by the way, homered last night in his first, you know, Yankees game, gave them a 7-6 lead. He's going to do well for them. He's one of the, well, he is. He's one of the top two or three hitters since June 5th. He's on a tear. C.J. Abrams has been on a tear. I just think that, you know, there is a circumstance in which they're around 500, they're two games back, and it doesn't feel the same way it felt with.

this one, which is they're around 500, they're two games out of the wild card spot, but my God, they are one of the two or three best offensive teams in baseball. They have two really good starters who are pitching very well right now. Sometimes the best way to learn how to win is to continue to try to win. And I, and I repeatedly said, if they had split with the Braves, and had traded both of these players, I'd be incensed. And I'm not super passionate about this team, but I am a fan of this team. And I have paid a lot more attention over the last, you know, two months to this team. They've been fun to watch.

And the fact that they actually had two legitimate starting pitchers, like I've said to you a few times, and you've agreed with me, they would have been an interesting team in a short series in October if they could have gotten there. Now, it's possible they could have been a team right around 500, two, three games out, without, you know, the excitement of what was happening. That's where I would have maybe understood it more. And maybe they're doing the right thing. Maybe they saw that what happened over the weekend was really who they were against Atlanta and where this was ultimately headed. Maybe they felt like they were, you know, outkicking their coverage and that it couldn't possibly. possibly last, but I don't know, 110 games or whatever it was.

Highest scoring team in baseball. Three guys minimum tearing the cover off the ball. Garcia Jr., Abrams, and Wood. I mean, Wood and Abrams are top 10 in home runs. Abrams leads the bigs and RBIs. Garcia, Jr. since June 5th, is top three in every major hitting category. I would have really liked to have seen what this would have looked like. had they gotten to a four in Atlanta, and they kept it all together for a run.

Because none of the people they brought back, first of all, you can tell me what you think if you've got an opinion. But I've had multiple people now tell me that it's not like they got a major haulback. They got a lot of players, and they got a lot of players, some of whom are ready to go now or next year. But it's not like they got a top prospect in the Yankees organization or in the Cleveland organization. No. Cleveland Hall is very mediocre. Yeah. But you know what?

Here's the thing, though. Nobody knows anything. I know. About who's going to be good for real. That's why I would have gone for it. Yeah, I agree. I would have gone for it too. But, you know, the fans who really, really get it,

they love invisible players. Yeah. They love prospects. They love minor leaguers. They're the same ones that love draft picks in football. invisible players. It geeks them all up. It's just a level of arrogance.

That's learner-type arrogance. Well, that's what this guy said. Actually, that's kind of Ted type of, you know, like, I don't think Ted said specifically anything like this about the basketball team. But look, when it comes to the Wizards, I have really, really understood what they're trying. to do. Now, I would suggest that it's easier to understand what the wizards have been doing for the last couple of years than what Paul Toboni and the Nats just pulled off. And the reason for that is

that, you know, these prospects at the minor league level, you know, they're invisible to most fans. Nobody knows who these people are, you know, for the most part. So you really do have to trust them. Like, I do have and have had opinions about the players they've drafted. The players they've traded for the players, they've traded away, et cetera. But I've understood what they've been trying to do. But it is time to start to try to win because it's not a good environment to develop young players, in my opinion, when you're not trying to win. And I don't know, the Nats in one week literally went from,

wow, this season is really interesting and could become a lot more interesting to six straight losses. James Wood got hurt in the game last night against Philadelphia. No Garcia Jr., no Foster Griffin, no chance the rest of the way. Their season's over in terms of the competitive portion of it. I mean, I hope I'm wrong, and they should still be a decent offensive team, as long as Wood's not seriously injured. But no Foster. Do you know that they were 17 and 14.5? five in the games he started for them this year.

I know. That's the season right there. Yeah. You know what's interesting? I'll tell you something. Luis Garcia, when he was traded, had better statistical numbers than Juan Soto when he was traded. You mean in that season? In that season.

Yeah, in that season. Yeah, yeah. Louise Garcia, 23 home runs, 76 RPI's batting 283. with 101 hits and what you call it Soto, 84 hits batting 246 with 21 home runs and 46 RBI. Since June 5th, before last night, before his debut with the Yankees, and he's only adding to that because he was two for four last night with a homer and two RBIs. Since June 5th, first in home runs, tied for first in home runs with 18, second in RBI's with 45.

C.J. Abrams, by the way, number one in RBI since June 5th. First and slugging percentage, third in OPS. I mean, I don't know. I'm sure they, you know, they know so much more. And this guy, this is an outlier year for him, just like it was Curtis Mead, just like it was Foster Griffin. In the case of Griffin, you weren't going to be able to hold on to him more likely than not. But it just, like we talk, you and I sat here the last three or four shows and said,

just steer clear of like a losing streak that'll change the mindset of the front office, especially after Blake Boutera said after that went over Colorado, that was an extremely important win. And what did they do? They went on a five-game losing streak skid into the trading deadline and added to it last night. All right. What did you think of the Orioles trading away Ruchman to the Red Sox? Again, yeah.

I would say to national fans, you need to pay attention in what's happened in Baltimore. That's a cautionary tale. This is what happens when your prospects, your top prospects, don't turn out to be the players you thought they were going to be. Okay. This is what happens when the tanking and rebuild doesn't make you better. You have a brief moment. They had their brief window,

and now they're back to, I think I read somewhere in the eight seasons that Mike Elias has been the general manager, they've been sellers and six of them. So that's a cautionary tale. Look,

the nationals could wind up being Tampa Bay. They could be really good at this, and even with a low payroll, be able to develop talent or Milwaukee, like Milwaukee, but they could also be Baltimore. Mike Elias was considered

a genius when he came to the Orioles. All right. How about the Dodgers with Scoobel? I mean... No, they didn't give up that much to get them. I know. I mean, I think it's funny because

the odds, like the Dodgers, are massive favorites. I mean, if I look this up at my bookie right now, they're just such a heavy favorite and yet they went to seven with Toronto last year baseball's got some random results in the postseason but God they are just they're loaded like no team's been in a long time

right now the World Series odds at my bookie hold on I'll get it here in a minute I'll give it to you before the next segment because the Dodger are prohibitive favorites to win the World Series their third straight with just a ridiculous starting rotation. I mean, there's no night off against their best five, that's for sure.

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for full disclosures. This segment of the show is brought to you by My Bookie. I told you I would look up My Bookie's World Series odds. Currently the Dodgers, Tommy, plus 154 to win the World Series. The next in line, the Yankees at Plus. plus 600. That is in, you know, futures betting. That is called a massive prohibitive favorite.

I mean, you're never going to be minus money, but they're almost even money. I mean, they're closing in on even money. All the NFL stuff is up. You know, the skins right now are five-point underdogs at Philly in the opener. They were four-point underdogs last week. but all the week one lines are up. The preseason numbers are up.

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MyBooky should be that for you. MyBooky.com, mybooky.ag promo code, Kevin, D.C. Washington added Fabian Moreau to the roster early this morning. So that is the second veteran corner that they have added over the last month. Rasul Douglas, they added about a month ago. the second also corner that's taller in nature. Fabian Moreau played the last two years for the Vikings, Brian Flores and Durante Jones's defense in Minnesota,

so he's familiar with the scheme. Trey Amos still out. There doesn't seem to be a lot of concern about Amos and his ability to play. But for a team that needed to get younger, faster, which they did in the off-season, the more recent additions have been older and not as fast, although Fabian Moreau could always run. But he is 32 years old,

and they've added him to their defensive secondary. I wanted real quickly just to read something to you that you may have read. I don't know if you did or not. I did it on the podcast yesterday, but I thought you might have a thought about something Dan Quinn said over the weekend. Did you hear him talking about the Durante Jones defense and the differences between what they are defensively now versus what they were? Did you hear any of that or read any of that? No, I did not.

So someone asked him about the Durante Jones scheme, and if it's changed, his Dan Quinn's perspective on defensive coaching. And he went into this, you know, long Dan Quinn type of answer, talking about, you know, defenses have essentially been on their heels, adjusting to what the offense is dictating. And now with this scheme, and he referred to Durante Jones's scheme as on the front edge and said about it that, where's the quote? I had it here. He said, defenses are trying to be in that space more,

meaning sort of dictating, and it's nice to see us go into that space now. It was definitely a lifting up of Durante Jones, but also a knock on what they've been defensively, with Joe Witt Jr., but really Joe Witt Jr., employing Dan Quinn's scheme. Yes. You know?

Yes. I mean, it's not like he was a helpless observer while they were running this defense that apparently he didn't like. Yeah. Now, there were follow-up questions to it. And, you know, there was one that asked him on what led him to believe that they needed a new defensive system. And he said, you know, going through what offenses and defenses, defenses of

doing over the last five, six years, you know, and he got into the details. You know, a lot of times defenses might, you know, have an all-out bit blitz, you know, called, but they can't get out of it. And there's a screen called against it. And then he says, so now having the ability to get in and out of calls, it has to be easy to learn, and it's got to be relatable and something you can execute quickly. And having a system that you're able to do that, that's a big deal, closed quote. Now, when he took over the defense last year from Joe Witt Jr., he did say the players have to be put into position where they don't have to think. They can play freely. And, you know, they did play that way a little bit more under Quinn.

Now, to be fair, Quinn took over just in time to face some of the lesser offensive of football teams that were on the schedule versus what had led into the change with Joe Witt Jr. But, you know, he basically said, my scheme and Joe Witt's teaching and communication ability just didn't add up to good enough. That's, you know, and this scheme is front edge, and it's nice to be into that position now. So we'll see if it works out.

We'll see if it works out. You know, they've got to play games. I know that... It can't possibly be worse, can it? No. It can't be worse. I think I talked about this on yesterday's show. They have nine new players that they are expecting to be major contributors.

Even if they missed on half of those players, four and a half new players would be an upgrade. Look, I'll tell you this, Dan Quinn's system that he was coaching or Joe Whit Jr. was trying to coach, the one he coached in Dallas, there are still several teams with a similar system. It's not antiquated. It's not outdated. It just requires better personnel than they've had and probably better hands-on coaching than what Joe Whit Jr. provided. I wonder when, you know, Dan, first had the inkling about Joe Witt, Jr., because it would, it would bother me if he kind of felt this way a year ago and didn't make the change before 2025. Now, would it have mattered with all the injuries they had on defense and offense and everything else who knows? But there were a lot of questions about Joe Witt, Jr. after the first year. Yes, there were.

So, well, I mean, you know, it takes a special kind of person to admit their mistake and move on quickly. It takes a special kind of person to admit that he's made a mistake, and as Michael Scott once said, and I am that special kind of person. So you wanted to talk about something I was talking about on radio today. Mike Sando from the athletic annually has 50 NFL jobs. General managers, assistant GMs, head coaches, OCs, defensive coordinators, vote on quarterbacks. He puts him into tiers, tier one, tier two, tier three, tier four, tier five.

Interestingly, there are no tier five quarterbacks. They don't do rookie quarterbacks like Mendoza or Ty Simpson. They do 35 veteran quarterbacks, and they rank them. Last year, Jaden Daniels was number six on the list, and the first quarterback listed among the tier two quarterbacks. This year, Tier 1, Patrick Mahomes was one, still one, Josh Allen and Matt Stafford tied for two, and Joe Burrow at four, because of the tied for two, no third, Joe Broe at four. Those are the only tier one quarterbacks. Last year, Lamar Jackson, was included among the tier one quarterbacks.

I, by the way, would agree with that tier one. I think those are the four quarterbacks that you can say definitively right now heading into the season are true elite level quarterbacks. By the way, tier one quarterbacks are described as carries his team each week, the team wins because of him, expertly handles pure passing situations, and has no real holes in his game. Those are the four that I would have in that tier one if I were voting. Now, I do think that some of the tier two quarterbacks can be tier one quarterbacks, but they just haven't had it, you know, long enough or done it long enough. The tier two

quarterbacks on this year's list, Lamar Jackson tops the list, he's number five overall. Then it's Justin Herbert at six, Dak Prescott at seven, tied for eighth, Drake May and Jared Gough. 10th is Jordan Love. 11th is a tie between Brock Purdy and Caleb Williams. And then at number 13, Jaden Daniels.

Jaden Daniels got one tier one vote, 32 tier two votes, and 17 Tier 3 votes. Here are some of the quotes about his game. A defensive coach said he's got to reprove it. An offensive coach said, I think he's a legitimate ascending tier two, assuming his health is right. From a front office exec, quote, I think he was a little quick to take off and run last year. They spent a lot of money on that offensive line and drafted some guys, so I think he's just got to settle into that position.

He has all the talent. An offensive coach said, Jaden is similar to Lamar Jackson. In that when he can't run, he's a tier 3 QB. My issue with him is he takes too many hits and he gets away with missing plays because his feet can bail him out. Closed, quote. So there you go. That was Jaden Daniels 13, falling from six last year where he got the most votes in the Mike Sando, annual quarterback survey. of any rookie quarterback that he's ever done,

and got 17 Tier 1 votes last year, and that was 13 more than the rest of the NFC East quarterbacks combined. Now, Dak Prescott is ahead of him. Jalen Hertz is behind him. I'm in Jackson Darts away behind him. Are you upset with this ranking? These things, you know, I do these things all the time, these rankings and these lists this time of year.

But none of this upsets me. None of this upsets me. I know that it is all of this stuff, even when you've got true in the league people evaluating it. So actual experts, you know, GMs, assistant GMs, head coaches, even with them, there is a recency bias. There just is. It's everything we do.

It has recency bias. The thing that I get most frustrated with, and this was not mentioned in the write-up of Jaden Daniels, and I've talked about this already a couple of times since the end of the season, I just can't stand the people that actually say out loud. He regressed. He just wasn't good. His footwork wasn't good. He wasn't accurate.

He didn't process well, you know, kind of like, you know, what happened with C.J. Stroud in his second year. When I hear that, I just want to scream, dumb, dumb, he didn't play. That's why the recency bias has him at 13 is because they didn't see him play last year. And so if you don't start in your evaluation of Jaden Daniels with, look, he barely played last year.

He played in four games start to finish. That's it, four out of 13. 10 games he missed completely. He played in seven. He actually only played in three out of the 17 start to finish healthy. The giant game, the Charger game, and the Bear game. And in those games, two of them, he was pretty damn good,

the Charger game and the Chicago game. If you don't start your answer with that, I just can't take anything you say seriously. Like I was listening to Jeremy Fowler. He was on with Greenberg on that show this morning, and he had just come from Washington's training camp. I guess he was there over the weekend. And they asked him about Jaden Daniels and he said, man, he looks good.

He and Terry McClureen looked great. Last year, Terry was a holdout. And he said, it's hard to really talk about Jaden's second year because he was injured from much of the year. But he looks good now. It looks a little bulked up. But he did say that for those that had a pre-draft concern about he's his body type and it holding up last year proved that there was a reason to feel concerned about that,

even though, you know, he only missed two games in 54 in college. But no, it doesn't upset me. His college record does not dictate a guy who missed time because of being injuries. No, his body, his slender body type. That was the one thing that I said was the one thing that I love him, and I loved every aspect of his game, and you guys know how much I was a Jaden Daniels fan coming out. But I just said he is, you know, skinny.

He's got a slender build, and he's, you know, hopefully that will hold up at the NFL level. And it did as a rookie, and it didn't in his second year. So we'll see what happens. But look, I mean, in some ways, I'll tell you this, like I look at some of these quarterbacks, like Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, five, six, and then Dak Prescott, seven.

All right. These three quarterbacks have all had incredible moments. I mean, certainly Lamar has. Even Justin Herbert to a certain degree and even Dak. But man, these are three quarterbacks that just have never been able to deliver when it's mattered most for them. You know, even when you go to Drake May tied for eighth, Drake May's postseason last year was horrific, great regular season. I'm actually a fan of Drake May, a bigger fan than I thought I would be when he came out. I didn't mind him when he came out. The guy I didn't like was J.J. McCarthy. I loved

Pennix Jr. after Caleb and Jaden. But May looked apart, no doubt. But he was terrible in those playoff games. Terrible in those playoff games. And they were playing their best defensive opponents they had played all season long. Some guys are going to have to get it done. To get into that elite level category, you got to get it done in the postseason. You got to get it done in the biggest games. And you can say Josh Allen hasn't been to a Super Bowl,

but Josh Allen has played consistently at a super high level in the playoffs. And it's just not gone their team's way in the postseason. But recency bias. Jaden goes out and has a great season. He'll be, you know, he'll be close to that top five, top six this time next year, is my guess. Anything else? I would agree. No.

On this. All right. We've got two more things to cover, and we'll do that after these words from a few of our sponsors. Tommy, tell us about Shelley. Well, you know, it's August now. And it's time to start thinking about making plans for the fall. and Shelley's backroom can help you with that. Shelley's backroom is a great place to host a private party and events.

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Grays, so I was at the beach, Jersey Shore, this past weekend, and I was wearing a D.C. Gray's T-shirt on the beach. And as I was loading up at the end of the day on Saturday, somebody said to me from a distance, hey, is that D.C. Grays? I swear to God, I turn around, I go, yeah. Do you know the D.C. Gray? He goes, wait a minute. Are you Sheehan? This was from 30 yards away.

And he came over, he introduced himself to me. Really nice guy. Lives in Jersey, but is he a huge skins fan and listens to the podcast. His name was Paul. So Paul, if you're listening, it was very nice to meet you. But he said that he had walked by earlier and saw the shirt and didn't say anything. and then as I got up and I was walking away, he just yelled that out. So, D.C. Grays, getting some love at the Jersey Shore, Tommy.

Yeah. Before I ask you about Bumstock to finish up, a couple of quick things. Number one, Bijon Robinson signed the biggest deal ever for a running back, $25 million a year, an extraordinary amount of money. for him breaks the record last year set by Sequin Barclay, $51 million of it guaranteed. And then just a little while ago, the story broke that Ravens wide receiver Zay Flowers, who is good. I mean, he was ranked on that list ahead of Terry McClorn, and I kind of took exception to that, the ESPN list.

Zay Flowers signs a four-year $140 million deal, $108 million of it guaranteed. This comes, you know, a few days after Chris Oliva signed a four-year $125 million deal with $90 million guaranteed. Understood that these receivers are younger than Terry McCorn was last summer. But you can see the difference in, and the reason that Terry and his agent were despondent over the deal that they got. Terry got $44.5 million guaranteed a year ago. And here we are actually less than a year later because he didn't sign his until late August, early September. Guys are not only two times, but approaching three times the guaranteed money.

that he got a year ago. The average annual now, Zay Flowers, number four overall. JSN's one, chases two, London's three, Flowers, and Jefferson are tied for fourth. JJ's next deal will be massive. He'll be coming up for a new deal. Maybe next year? He signed his in 24, I think. Also, I just wanted to mention that I saw on social media the other day that at that practice on Saturday that was open to the public, Rigo was there.

By the way, opened up his jacket, had the Redskins logo inside the jacket that he was wearing. Rigo has issue, as many of the former players do, with the name change and the lack of the old logo. But he's going to be doing the preseason games with Dan Helley. A, I'm glad Helly's back in the market. I like Dan a lot. I think he's good. And it'll be great to hear Rigo call the games. I think Brian Mitchell is going to be a part of the broadcast as well.

It's been a while since Rigo's really kind of been a part of the team. You know, I think probably the last official role with anything related to the team in its broadcast was when he did the pregame show with me, you know, which is now. seven, eight years ago. So I'm thrilled that we can tune into these preseason games, as dreadful as they are, and listen to Rigo with Dan Helly. That's a reason to tune in. It is. Tell me about Bumstock to finish up the show.

Everybody healthy? Okay? Well, not everybody's healthy, but we get more people that show up the past two years than we had ever before. That's nice. And I think it's because people sense that it's important to see these people. Because speaking of time management, time is fleeting. But it was a great weather, a great crowd.

It just takes on a different tone than it used to. But it's my favorite day of the year and remains so. God, you love that. That is such a cool thing. How many years again? Well, 93, with one year out for COVID. So 32 years. Wow.

Yeah. A lot of laughing, I would assume. Any big arguments about, you know, the world that we're living in today that you got into with somebody? None of that. Okay. I don't hear anybody discussing any politics at all. All right, good.

Good. Lots of, I would imagine. What's the drinking level at the, I know it isn't what it used to be? Oh, it's significantly less. You know, it's funny because Harry, the guy who organized the party, he used to buy like five half cakes for this thing. And one year, we did it, and we ran out at midnight. So Harry knew a guy, a bar owner, nearby, and we went to a bar at midnight and bought another half keg from him.

But now, basically, he buys three cases of beer. And the guy who we buys them from says, I can't believe it's the same party. Rolling Rock? What do you get up there? Well, he gets a mixture of Yingling, Miller Light. I actually brought my own because I'm looking for something different in selection. I bought some Sierra Nevada. Right.

That's your beer. Yeah, that's one of them. Remember when you came over to the house, I had some Sierra Nevada for you. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. All right. But it was great. No injuries, no ambulances, no police requirement.

So that's a win and a lot of laughs. Yes. Yes, a lot of fun. And a lot of promises of see you next year. Yes. Well, actually, we've got a 55th high school union coming up. October. A 55th? Is that a big one? I didn't know. Most classes, no, 50 is a big one. Most classes don't do unions past 50 years unless it's a 75th.

But we have such a tight class. People wanted to get together for the 50-fifth year. So we've got, we're going to see basically the same people again in October. Okay. Well, that's a quick turnaround. And maybe a little bit too much too soon, but I can't speak to the group. But we'll talk about that one before October. Will you be heading to it? Okay. Oh, absolutely. I was class, I was vice president in the class.

I'm the highest ranking living officer. I'm expected to be there. Yeah, and given that high school lasted a little bit longer for you, you almost made it to being a presidential nominee in the next election. All right. Good job. I was the youngest kid in our class. I got to run.

You got to run. You were, the youngest kid in your class? Youngest. By a couple months. I didn't turn 17 until March 25th of my senior year. Wow. I turned 18 in February of my senior year. I was not one of the oldest, but I was kind of in the middle.

That's interesting. You know, I think there's a lot that is, interesting about people who were young for their group. You know, Doc used to say, and I totally agree with this, that in sports, those high school freshmen and sophomores that were immediately put on varsity, totally different experience, totally different type of athlete. If you were good enough as a freshman or a sophomore to be on varsity,

there was just some real juice, and there was a difference there between you and everybody else. And he used to talk about the confidence that those kids had compared to those that didn't make it to the varsity until they were juniors, you know? And I, that's, that's, I was not on varsity as a freshman or sophomore, but, but the personal experience of knowing people who were, that was very, um, very relatable to the experience of knowing some of those kids. And you as a very young person in your high school class, I think that's an interesting thing to know about you. Did you have a high level of confidence in that group? Here's the thing.

Yeah. The highlight of my academic career was when my mom took me down to sign me up for kindergarten. and I took a test and the nun said he's too smart for kindergarten we're going to put him in first brain and that was it that started you on

youngest kid in the class youngest kid in the class and your highlight academically for your school life all right we both have to go I will talk to you later in the week

thanks okay boss