The Kevin Sheehan Show - Next Championship Parade In DC?
Episode Date: June 18, 2026Kevin and Thom today with a menu of sports and non-sports excellence to choose from. In light of the wild New York Knicks parade in Manhattan today, the boys made their picks on which DC pro sports te...am is next with a parade in Washington. Dan Quinn singled out some of the players he was most impressed with during mini-camp....the guys reacted to that. Wizards, Nats, World Cup and more sports on the show as well. Per usual, the conversation went in a lot of different directions like the history of pin-up girls in America, Thom's movie screenplay, Fathers Day, Texas Roadhouse, a great burger in DC (Eebee's), another writing award for Thom, and lots more. For all your football betting needs: DCRELOAD at MyBookie for a 50% Deposit Match Chime is not just smarter banking, it is the most rewarding way to bank. Head to www.Chime.com/SHEEHAN. It only takes a few minutes to sign up. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Sheehan Show. Here's Kevin. Tommy's here. I am here. The show's presenting sponsor is always. Window Nation. If you need new windows, call them. 86690 Nation is the number. You can also go to windownation.com. Tommy, this is from Lynn to open up the show. Lynn writes, Kevin and Tom, my husband and I are frequent listeners and big fans.
of the show. For what it's worth, you both together or by yourselves are just as entertaining,
if not more so, when the topic is something other than sports, unless you're making fun of soccer,
L.O.L. Bachelor parties, movies, TV shows, pinup girls from the 50s, and now Kevin's stepbrother
wrote a movie that got made, and Tom now finally seems willing to send Kevin,
his scripts.
It never gets old between you two.
Keep up the good work.
Well, thank you, Lynn, for that.
That was very nice.
We even talked about pin-up girls
from the 50s in a while.
I don't think.
And it's not just pin-up girls from the 50s.
I think we've hit pretty much every decade
of pin-up girls.
When do you think the pin-up thing started?
In the 30s or 40s?
I think it's definitely
It definitely was highlighted during World War II.
Right.
The soldiers of Betty pinups of Betty Grable and other pinups.
It may have been a big thing before that, I'm sure.
You know, there were magazines, glamour magazines, pinup magazines.
There was a Starlet named Gene Harlow back in the 30s, who was from Marilyn Monroe of her time.
So it probably goes back almost 100 years.
The term pinup was first officially used in a 1941 life magazine feature on actress Dorothy Lamour.
However, the concept traces back to late 19th century burlesque and Gibson Girl illustrations.
But during World War II, the U.S. military heavily circulated and sanctioned these images to raise the spirits of homesick soldiers.
Betty Grable,
famous for her iconic
1943 yellow bathing suit
poster,
was the most requested
by World War II
troops.
So there you go.
You pretty much got it right
for the most part.
Look at you.
You know what might be the most famous
pin-up?
People say Farrah Fawcett
and they're probably right.
But the
iconic one.
Marilyn Monroe.
Raquel Welch.
Okay.
In 10,000 BC,
the movie,
because that's the poster,
I think,
that Andy Dufrain had on his wall.
Ah, yeah.
The Shawshank Redemption to cover up the tunnel he was he built.
Are you sure?
Are you sure it was Raquel Welch?
By the way,
that's kind of the first
and Raquel Welch is really
60s and 70s, right?
60s, 60s mostly.
Let me just say, pin up poster
Andy Dufrein.
Let's see if you're right about that.
Rita Hayworth, you're wrong.
It was Rita Hayworth.
Really?
Yeah.
I thought for sure it was Raquel Welch.
No, I kind of remember it being Rita Hayworth
now that I just read it.
Red smuggles into the prison.
A pin-up girl. A pin-up of Rita Hayworth, and he leaves it on the bed for his good friend Andy Dufrein.
I think, you know, I don't remember pin-up being the term for Farrah Fawcett, Cheryl Teague's, you know, the 70s pin-up girl.
I mean, the first true sex symbol that I remember is Farah Fawcett.
And I had the Cheryl Teague's Fishnet SwimSuit poster.
I had that one.
But Farah Fawcett was really the first, and she did, you know, those commercials with,
it was Noxema, right?
Wasn't it Noxema?
The aftershave?
I think so, yeah.
Take it off, take it all off.
Yeah, and then she,
She became part of Charlie's Angels, which was, you know, a phenomenal show with Jacqueline Smith and Kate Jackson.
I don't know.
It was a phenomenal show.
Oh, it wasn't.
You're right.
It wasn't a phenomenal show.
But it was a popular show because the three of them.
I actually really liked Jacqueline Smith and Kate Jackson.
I thought they were much better on that show than Farah Fawcett was.
I remember Kate Jackson was in a show before that called The Rookies.
It was a cop show. She was the wife of one of the cops.
And one of the cops was George Sanford Brown.
I know exactly who you're talking about, the black guy. Yes.
Yeah.
Who was in Roots.
He was in Roots.
Yes, he was.
He was also in...
So I remember Kate Jackson from being in that show, the rookies.
He was also in, tell me if I'm right about this, it may be a different actor and I may have him confused with somebody else.
Was he in the original longest yard?
with Bert Reynolds?
I don't think.
Where he played the gay,
where he played the gay prisoner?
You know what?
That's a good call.
Well, I don't know if it's a good call or not.
I'm going to check right now.
No, that wasn't the longest yard.
That was stir crazy.
Oh, it was stir crazy.
That's what it was.
Yes.
With Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Good call.
Yes.
Good pull.
Stur crazy.
That's right.
We bet.
We bet.
We bad. And of course, that was the follow-up to Silver Streak, which they did together, Prior, and Gene Wilder.
Do you know that there wasn't something that long ago that sort of popped up in my, you know, social media timeline with Richard Pryor?
Because I will occasionally watch a bunch of Richard Pryor videos. I still consider Richard Pryor to be the goat.
I think he's the funniest guy. He's the top comedian of all.
He's my all-time favorite.
He apparently was essentially completely drugged out during the filming of Stir Crazy.
And there are interviews with him after the movie is done where he just shreds the movie,
just kills it as a terrible movie.
But it just talks about how he got paid and that's all that mattered.
And he was stoned in almost every, in high,
out of his mind in almost every interview.
Because Stur Crazy is early 80s.
You know, it's probably...
But I thought Sturr Crazy was a good movie.
That was a funny movie, yes.
When Gene Wilder gets on the bull, you know, in the warden's office, he's like,
and he got it up to whatever number it was, I don't know if it was 10 or 5 or whatever.
Nobody's ever gotten it up to 5.
Here's the cast.
Yes, George.
Stanford Brown.
That's a good call.
Barry Corbyn was the warden.
Right, and Craig T. Nelson was his deputy.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was a fun movie.
Richard Pryor was great in that movie,
but he thought in the moment afterwards that it was a terrible movie.
By the way, the budget for that movie was $10 million.
The box office number 101 million came out.
December 12th, 1980.
And I think Sidney Pottier directed it.
Really? Hold on. I'll check on that.
I think so.
Directed by Sidney Portier. Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow. All right then.
Thank you for that, Lynn.
Oh, yes.
The reason I read this wasn't for what we just talked about.
It's because I did talk about the other day that my stepbrother
wrote a movie that got made. He actually
went out and funded it and raised the money for it. It's
called Time of Death. It's out right now
on Apple, on Paramount, on Amazon.
I think it's in a few theaters. I don't know if any of the theaters are around
here. And Tom
talked about, well, how am I going to get my movies
made? He's complained about that for years.
And Lynn remembered that
I've asked, look, I can't help you.
But I've asked to see his...
You're going to be my money guy.
I'm not going to be your money guy.
I don't have money to invest in a movie.
It's like investing in a...
It's like investing in a restaurant.
I wouldn't...
I mean...
You're going to be my money guy.
So Tommy did send me a script.
Can I just tell you something?
I'm so impressed.
And of course I didn't read the entire script.
It would have taken it.
me hours to read the entire script.
But I'm really impressed
that, because this isn't
the only one you've done, right?
Right, I've done another one.
I mean, that is a lot
of work.
It's a shitload of creativity.
I mean, Tommy's got
every scene, he's got all of the
dialogue. I'm not going to
talk about what it is, obviously, unless you
wanted to talk about what it is.
But I just, I'm
blown away when I see
things like this from people because it's unbelievable effort. How long did it take you to write that script?
That screenplay. I wrote both of them during COVID when we had no place to go and nothing to do.
Well, we were doing podcasts. Yes, we were. Other than that, we were basically landlocked.
Nobody was going out. Well, you were taking walks. I was coming to work. Not everybody was.
But yes.
You were catching up with old friends.
I wrote the other ones first, the queen of baseball.
It's the one I didn't send you.
Okay.
And when I finished it, I had the momentum going.
So I just jumped right into this other one.
I've been wanting to write for years.
All right.
So just what's the status of this?
Like, what did you do with it?
It's limbo.
It's nowhere.
I've tried to pitch it.
I can't get an agent to get interested.
Look, I don't think it's because it's bad.
There's lots of reasons why films don't get made in Hollywood.
I had a producer tell me for the queen of baseball, which is like the early 20th century,
it's very hard to get period pieces made, you know?
Right.
So, I mean, why is that?
Because there's a big expense?
Big expense.
Yeah.
With period pieces.
Right.
And, you know, look, I see garbage on the screen all the time.
Right.
And I'm not kidding myself.
I know my movie, my stuff is better than what I just saw.
So, I mean, I'm not fooling myself or wasting my time.
I just haven't found the right guy and the right opportunity.
Now, one way to do it these days is to get an actor or actress interested in your project.
Right.
To attach to so they can attach themselves to it, and then everything else seems to come around.
So I've tried to figure out ways to do that, but these people are like, they're better protected than government officials.
You can't get to them.
Let me just say this.
I haven't read the entire screenplay,
but you got a much better shot with this than you do with your, you know,
your burgeoning singing career.
I would put that on hold and focus more on screenplays.
I think I've told you this story before.
And I know I haven't told this story on my own.
So if I told this story, it was with you on the podcast.
but it does have something to do with how a movie got made,
and there's a lot of, you know, circumstance,
luck, right place, right time.
But going back to the pandemic 2020,
one of the, you know, real blessings for me
and a lot of friends of mine is that our golf course
opened up pretty quickly.
And I don't know, you probably wouldn't remember this
because you don't like golf,
But one of the real, you know, lifesavers during that first year is every week there were about 30 of us.
And we put together, because our golf course was open, we put together a Tuesday.
It was actually a Tuesday game for a while.
Then it was a Wednesday game.
And it was like we split the teams into 15 and 15.
And, you know, we went out in groups.
And it was a whole, you know, afternoon, turned into an evening, hanging out, drinking, smoking cigars.
the whole thing. And it was really, really beneficial to have that as an outlet during the pandemic
in the spring and early summer of 2020. Well, not every golf course was open. A lot of golf courses
were open, but not a lot of golf courses were open. And the place that I am a member at Columbia
Country Club in Chevy Chase is a course that has a lot of, it's a caddy,
It has a real caddy program, and they encourage you to take caddies out when you go out and play.
Not every place is like that, but a lot of places in big markets have, you know, big cities have places
where, you know, you've got caddies.
And the whole caddy thing is like this kind of cult.
Like they know each other.
They know all the places.
And during the pandemic, there were caddies that came down from other places that were closed
and caddied at Columbia during the pandemic.
It's a long way to get to this one day I'm playing,
and I'm like, we're on like the fifth hole,
and, you know, we're betting.
There's typically some wagering going on on the golf course.
And I think one of my friends that I was playing with that day said,
you know, from where you were on the fairway,
it's like, you know, I'll give you, you know,
I'll give you a three to one odds that you can't make par,
something like that.
And so I said, you know, make it four to one and I'll take the bet.
And so he said, fine.
And with that, the guy that was caddying for us that day, who we had never had before
and didn't know.
And by the way, a lot of the caddies that we have become friends, you know, good friends.
But this guy was somebody new.
And he looked at me and he said, Kevin, don't take four to one.
You need five or six to one.
and I looked at him and I said,
I know you.
He goes, what took you so long?
And it was this guy, Brandon Lang.
Do you remember Brandon Lang?
He used to come on, he came on our show.
He came, we went on Andy and Steve's show for several years as a handicapper, as a sports
handicapper.
You remember him, right?
Yes.
So he goes, yeah, it's me.
Like, what are you doing?
Cattying.
He goes, I caddy at a lot of different places.
I'm down from, believe it or not, where he was a caddy was Shinnecock Hills,
where the U.S. Open is being played this weekend.
It's underway right now.
I'm looking at the leaderboard.
Rory's three under and in the lead.
Wow.
And they were closed
And a couple of the other places out in the Hamptons that he caddied at were closed.
And I said, well, why do you caddying?
And he said, it's a business generator for me for my handicapping and tout business.
And, you know, I didn't get into, you know, why he was caddying.
I didn't care.
We ended up having the best day.
he was entertaining as hell.
We connected.
He did.
I remember he asked him.
He said, why did you stop having me on your show?
Because they put him on our show to begin with.
And then after one year, I'm like, I don't really want him anymore.
And they're like, okay, we'll give him to Andy and Steve.
And the reason I didn't want him is because I understood that he didn't know anything more than what we knew.
But that was another thing.
And he asked me, why didn't you?
you stick with me because I thought it was really good.
I remember you were excellent, but, you know, I know the game here.
You know, he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And anyway, long story short, he gets to the story about how they made a movie about him.
Right, two for the money.
Two for the money.
They made a movie about Brandon Lang,
and the reason was he created this big sports advisory business.
what I call touts.
They're not, you know, they don't take bets.
You pay them to get their advice on who to bet on.
Now, let me just tell you, when you're young and you're new at gambling and you're losing,
you'll pay almost anything to somebody that tells you they got winners, okay?
I went through that as a young person.
Kevin, can you get to Western Union?
You know, I got the Monday night lock winner.
Of course, you find out that, you know, they don't have any more the answers than you have.
And so his claim to fame, and I may be a little bit off on this,
but he hit on 23 straight Monday night football games before finally losing.
And that's what created the business, Brandon Lang Sports, or whatever it was called.
and those are big businesses, Tommy.
People pay big money for picks.
I don't know if they still do, but I would imagine they still do.
I know they used to.
And anyway, he told this story about how the movie Two for the Money got made.
By the way, Al Pacino starred as Brandon Lang.
Matthew McConaughey was in the movie.
Renee Russo, she's a key person in the remainder of the story that I'm going to tell.
here in a moment was in the movie.
And, you know, it was a big, it was a, you know, I don't know if it was a big movie, but it was
a movie.
And he was the one that pitched the movie and he pitched it to Renee Rousseau's husband,
who was a big time Hollywood director.
I forget what his name is.
On the golf course, and here's how it happened, according to Brandon Lang.
Brandon told this story and he told it that day and then we ended up having, you know, we had a couple of other outings with him.
Fun guy, great guy, great storyteller the whole nine yards.
But he said that he was caddying at Riviera in Los Angeles and that René Russo's husband, who I can't remember his name, big director, that he was his caddy in a big money match.
and they got to the 18th
and this guy had like a 12-foot put
to basically win a ton of money
against whomever it was he was playing against.
And he looked at the putt and he said,
I got that going about a foot right to left.
And Brandon said,
if you hit it a foot right to left,
it's going off the green.
It's actually a foot left to right.
So he lines up the put.
He follows Brandon, his caddies,
advice and he makes the put and he goes to tip him you know and he said i don't want any money from you
i want you to give me an opportunity to pitch you 10 minutes on a movie he gave him the opportunity
to pitch him on the movie he loved the idea and he made the movie about brandon lang two for the
money and i'm going to guess that that was what tommy 2010 2005
maybe 2000.
Yeah, somewhere around there.
I can look it up real quickly.
You know, one of the reasons I really enjoyed that movie
because it had one of my all-time favorite actors in it.
Who?
Armand Asante played the mob guy.
Oh, yeah.
Who he bet with and then beat him up for not coming through on his bet.
2005.
And directed by DJ Caruso,
written by Dan Gil, René Russo, who's her husband?
Her husband is Dan Gilroy.
Dan Gilroy is the guy that wrote it.
He didn't direct it. He wrote it, according to Wikipedia.
And that's how that movie got made.
So, I mean, yeah, it's, that was kind of lucky and right place, right time.
And by the way, the right read on the putt.
He gave him the correct read on the put.
Um, but I can,
I can discuss the name of the script I gave you.
Okay.
I mean, it's registered with the Writers Guild of America.
Uh-huh.
No one can steal it or anything.
Uh, it's called all my black friends, the adventure of the life of Sputnik Monroe.
Yeah.
Who was a professional wrestler.
And it's based on a true story.
You know, when I, when I first opened it up and it was called All My Black Friends,
I thought it was going to be like some.
sort of comedy where
you know how white people say well I've got a lot
of black friends too
that's like a big line when you're having
a race conversation or a racially
tinged conversation
well you know I've got black friends too
just just know that that's my perspective
that's where I'm coming from
that's what I thought it was going to be something
like that but it was nothing like that
and it was a period
piece from the 50s
50s
60s
50s
and 60.
Yeah.
Well, let's stay at it here.
Honestly, you know I would help you if I could help,
if I could legitimately help you in any way,
I don't know how I could help you.
I don't know anybody in the movie business.
I guess my stepbrother is technically in the movie business
because he did get a movie made.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I can at least get...
I'm expecting weekly reports on how the money raising is going.
I'll send you a spreadsheet.
Yeah, that's coming.
The first one will be there on Monday.
And if you have a hard time finding any entries,
you know, names or amounts, you know, don't worry.
When we find something, we'll put it in there.
But I have a feeling it could be empty for a while.
That's okay.
I'm a patient, man.
How much money would, seriously, I don't even know.
How much money do you need to make a movie?
I don't know these days.
I mean, do you have...
I'm doing this at the wrong time.
The movie business is a disaster.
Of course, because TV is the big deal.
You know, and I mean, with AI and everything,
it's hard to get movies, harder than ever to get a movie made.
So I'm really swimming against the tide here.
All right.
Well, stay at it.
I think it's...
I haven't read the whole, you know, screenplay.
but I was truly impressed.
I mean, I just kept scrolling down.
I mean, how many pages are there?
I think about 100.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Do you have a cast in mind?
No.
Oh, come on.
You've thought about who would play Sputnik Mitt Monroe.
No?
No, I have not.
Let me tell you something, Kevin.
Once I sell the script,
You're done with it.
I really don't care what they do with it.
Well, that's the thing, right, is that you hope that somebody will buy this script.
And they pay for scripts all the time and movies don't even get made after they buy scripts.
I mean, it would be nice for it to be made.
But I just want the feeling of selling a movie script.
Right.
I know that, you know, Howard Gutman has written scripts for TV shows,
and maybe even movies, right?
He's done a lot of that, and you talk to him about that.
All right, I'll keep you posted on the money raise for this.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
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I haven't seen the numbers yet, Tommy, for the parade today in New York, but I did watch
some of it or I had it on in my studio during the radio show this morning.
I'm sure we're going to see, you know, I think we're going to see numbers in the millions.
perhaps, right? It's going to be more than a million people. It certainly looked like that.
I have not seen an estimate for it. But I was thinking about, man, you know, it's been a while
since we've had a parade in this town. Uh, 2019, when the Nats won the World Series. Now,
if somebody calls me up and says that, you know, the women's ice hockey team in town won a title,
I apologize, I guess. Uh, but,
in terms of the four major pro sports teams, we haven't had a parade since the 2019 Nats.
And by the way, back-to-back years of a parade with the 2018 caps and the 2019 Nats.
And prior to that, we had to go all the way back to 1991 for a parade for any of our professional sports teams.
Who's the next team in town to have a parade?
Have you ever been?
Did you make it to any of those parades?
Yeah, I did.
I did shows from both of them.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Not, I, I mean.
What about when you were a fan?
Never went to any of the parades.
Not a big, you know, even as a young person, not a big go where there are thousands of people and crowds.
Now, I say that, and I was a regular on the mall for July.
fly forth with friends.
But no.
You know what?
Wait,
wait a minute.
Did I get on a bus with a friend of mine
when the bullets won,
I mean,
we weren't driving.
The bullets won the title in 78?
I don't think I did.
No,
I don't think I've ever been to a parade.
I don't think so.
Are there any estimates on the crowd size?
I'm looking through it right now.
I don't see any estimates.
I haven't seen any yet.
You know,
in 1986,
Mets.
The Mets won the World Series.
I took a train up from Baltimore
that morning of the parade
to be there for...
I wasn't there for any of the games.
I was a fan then.
But I showed up for the parade,
and that was pretty cool.
That was pretty wild.
Yeah.
I'm looking through social media right now.
I just see people saying,
are we in the millions yet?
I mean, put it this way.
The New York PD police commissioner said that the NYPD will have more than 10,000 officers in lower Manhattan.
The Giants Parade in 2012 had about a million people, according to reports.
So I would imagine this one's going to be bigger.
Yeah, I would think so.
What's the next parade in D.C.?
The commanders.
Really?
I mean, it is the sport out of the four that is the most unpredictable.
You know, where you get, and I'm not saying that they'd be the biggest surprise,
because I think they're going to be a good team for several years to come when Jaden Daniels is healthy and playing.
But it is the sport where things turn around the fastest.
Hockey is one of those things where, you know,
it's always difficult because if you get in, you've got a chance.
Right.
I don't think the Wizards are close to a parade.
I do think they may be nearing being a much better team, and that's exciting to me.
They should be.
They have enough assets.
And the Nats right now, even though they lost yesterday to Kansas City,
you know, they might be in the postseason this year.
They might be the next team playing a playoff game.
I don't think that's going to happen.
Do you?
I don't think it's going to happen.
I don't think it's going to happen either,
but the fact is, like I said,
you're much closer to trading deadline than opening day.
Right.
And then that you're in the hunt.
Yeah, I think if I'm going to take a guess,
and I put it in this order,
I would say skins followed by caps,
followed by Nats, followed by wizards, in that order.
It's not the order that I'd prefer.
The order that I'd prefer is skins, wizards, Nats, caps.
But football is so unpredictable, wild.
I mean, look, New England and Seattle last year were in the Super Bowl,
and before the season started, they had win.
totals of seven and a half.
Nobody had them going to where they went to.
So it could happen.
And we, you know, the other reason you feel somewhat justified in picking Washington is
because of Jaden Daniels, because they have a quarterback that matters and has a chance
to be great.
So I would say that that's the best guess on the next parade.
I don't know when it'll be,
but it would have to be during his career
that they get won, hopefully.
And yeah, so I would have that.
And again, caps just because of the total,
fickle, random nature of the NHL playoffs.
I think that's a good lineup.
Yeah, followed by Nats, followed by Wizards.
Because the NBA, even though we've had eight straight winners
in eight straight years with eight different matchups,
and it seems to be that we've entered this new era of less dynasty and more parity,
it's still the hardest of the four to win a title in.
Do you agree with that?
I think that that might be true.
There have probably been fewer winners of the NBA finals
over, let's say, the last 50 years than any of the last 50 years than any of the last.
the other three major sports.
I would agree with that.
I'm going to guess that that's true.
I mean, because for a while, it was just, you know, it was Celtics, Lakers, it was Celtics
forever, it was Celtics Lakers, you know, occasionally the Knicks, occasionally, you know,
the Sixers, then we're going to the 80s, it's the Lakers and the Celtics again, and then
it's the Pistons, and it's the Bulls for six, yeah, there's no sports.
sport that's had more dynastic runs than the NBA.
It's the hardest of the four-to-old title in.
I mean, in our lifetime.
In our lifetime.
In our lifetime.
Baseball.
Because the Yankees.
Before, yeah, before we knew what was going on.
Yeah.
Let me just see if I can get a quick answer.
And how many teams have won NBA titles?
21 different franchises out of the 30 have won NBA titles.
So in the NFL, we know it's more than that
because there are only, what, still four remaining franchises
that haven't won a Super Bowl?
Detroit hasn't.
Cleveland hasn't.
Jacksonville hasn't.
And the Titans,
I think those are the four, right?
Well, the Cardinals haven't won a Super Bowl.
So the Cardinals haven't.
the, I'm going through the list here.
In terms of won a chance, the Falcons haven't won a Super Bowl.
Oh, yeah, no, the Falcons haven't won a Super Bowl.
Carolina hasn't won a Super Bowl.
Detroit hasn't won a Super Bowl.
Minnesota.
Yeah, the list of teams that haven't won a Super Bowl is longer than the teams that haven't
been to a Super Bowl.
The teams that haven't been to a Super Bowl is a pretty short list.
I think I gave out the teams.
Houston, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Cleveland, Detroit, might be the list.
Okay.
We both have the skins, our football team, as the most likely to win a championship and have a parade on this parade day in New York.
Mini camp is continuing, and there have been things that have been reported about,
players that Dan Quinn has been impressed by in this offseason.
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Do you know that I didn't realize it was Father's Day until yesterday this weekend?
Swear to God.
And usually it sets up with the U.S. Open.
I like to say that.
I like to say that's a shock.
Yeah.
But look, I don't mean this in a derogatory way.
But you're kind of clueless about things that are going on around you, aren't you?
Not really. I wouldn't say that. But when it comes to like holidays and birthdays and stuff, yeah, they've never been major priorities for me, except for the biggies, you know, the big holidays. But I don't know why I didn't know what was Father's Day. But my father texted me last night and said, hey, do you guys want to do something on Sunday for Father's Day? And I was actually with my wife at dinner.
and I looked at her and I said,
Sunday's Father's Day?
She goes, yeah, I was going to ask you
if you wanted to do anything for Father's Day.
I'm like, I should have known
because it always sinks up with the U.S. Open
every year.
It sinks up with U.S. Open golf.
But I just didn't give it thought,
in part because Tommy,
as true empty nesters now,
I don't really, you know,
if the boys wanted to celebrate Father's Day
and do something great,
If my wife wants to do something, it's not, I shouldn't say this.
It's not like it's not the same, but she's not motivated necessarily,
and I'm not necessarily needy in that regard.
I just don't care about birthdays and things like Father's Day.
I just don't.
My Father's Day gift every year, I actually ask her if it's okay if I can play golf on Mother's Day,
as a Father's Day gift.
Wow, that's sneaky.
That's pretty good.
But anyway, my father reminded me that it was,
and so we have plans for Father's Day.
I'm going to be spending, you know, brunch with my father and his wife,
and my wife and me, and we'll have a brunch,
and that'll be Father's Day.
And then I'll come home and sit on the couch and watch a U.S. Open,
which is always one of my favorite things to do on Father's Day.
I haven't heard anything about any plan, so I'm assuming there are none.
So if that's the case, I have a plan of my own that I want to engage with my wife in.
And it's pretty simple.
You know, I want to go to dinner, but you're going to laugh at this.
I want to go to dinner at Texas Road home.
I'm not going to laugh.
at it.
They got,
because,
I've had a Texas
roadhouse before.
Yeah,
they've got this great,
uh,
tree fried chicken.
Uh-huh.
With this great cream sauce on it.
Oh.
And they got those great rolls.
Yeah.
Those great rolls.
You know,
they,
they walk you to your table while they're bringing a basket of rolls.
That's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
And it's not the kind of restaurant that normally my wife would want to go to.
Mm-hmm.
So,
on Father's Day, I have
the
cachet or at least
the high ground
to say, let's go to
Texas Roadhouse. And then
after that, I want to go see the New Spielberg
movie. I've been to a movie
in person in a long time.
This is the
disclosure
disclosure date, yeah.
Yeah. Definitely
want to see it.
So that may be
my father's day. Or it may
be something that just turns the shit, who knows?
I have a Texas Roadhouse
menu up in front of me. You like the
country fried chicken. Tender
white meat chicken breast, hand-battered,
golden-fried and topped
with choice of gravy,
served with choice of two sides.
And by the way, I see the rolls
right now. They're
already buttered up before they get
to the table.
They are.
Yeah. They are. It's amazing.
And, you know, the lines to get in a Texas Road house are amazing.
Really?
Like on a weekend, it's a two-hour week.
Do you know, I stood in line recently for food?
There's this place in Shaw called Eby's.
It's a bar restaurant.
And right now it's like, you know, I always, my middle son's great at this,
but we both are always kind of looking for, you know, what's the hottest place right now?
What's really good?
What's new and good?
E.B.'s opened up, I don't know, maybe a year ago.
And let me just say, other than Shelly's, of course, the burger at Eby's is phenomenal.
And I've now been twice.
I actually went with Cooley when he was in town for this wedding that we were both in.
and it was Sunday
and he's like
well my flight isn't until
tomorrow morning and he was staying with me
and I said well he goes what are we going to do today
and I said you know what we're going to go to Ebies
and you're going to get one of the best
burgers in town
and there was a line
you know the lines aren't what they were
for a while
but a phenomenal burger
and totally worth it and a great
beer menu you would love some of the
beer options
they have it's in Shaw
you know it's it's perfect
you know location
by the way after we did that
we then went to the MGM
we went to the MGM
and gambled for about three hours
that was actually
the day of Harley's 50th
birthday which he had
down at the wharf
but I don't
I'm not a big line waiter in
you know I don't love waiting in lines
but I can tell you
EBE's the burger, and I'm sure some of you are familiar with it, it's worth waiting in line for.
First rate place. And the place in general is just a good neighborhood, you know, bar, you know,
restaurant. All right. What were we going to do in this segment? Oh, well, I got something for you,
but let me fill the void here for a minute. Well, I... Okay, with my little tippets unless you don't want me to.
Well, I'd like you to save the tidbits for the final segment because we've had a show that's been, I think, really based on tidbits.
I mean, there have been a lot of tidbits.
The theme has been tidbity on this show today.
I think we have created a show that our first email or would have right.
Lynn said the best shows we do aren't sports shows.
but I also know because I'm able to pay attention to how many people listen to the show
and which shows do really well versus which shows that don't.
And I know it's pretty important that we talk about the football team
if there is something to talk about.
And there is because Dan Quinn held this final press conference before training camp
when they reconvene at the end of July in Ashburn,
because today was the last day of their mandatory minicamp.
And there were two things that he said that I'm going to read from the transcript on.
In his opening statement, you know, Dan Quinn has an opening statement, as you know, for every press conference.
He typically has some sort of theme or he's thanking somebody or, you know, God forbid he's wishing somebody sympathies.
But whatever it is, he's always got an opening statement.
Well, today he kind of, you know, thanked a couple of people, a couple of scouts who were leaving the organization, and then he kind of summed up mini camp. And he said, it was important, it was an important three days on the field, honestly. I was really trying to pressure test some people to see, you know, what that would look like. And who would be some of the people that would jump out? The teams worked incredibly hard, strength and
conditioning-wise, they've made significant gains, but just a few people, I thought, jumped out.
So this is, like I mentioned the other day that the first name he mentioned when he was asked about other receivers other than Terry McClorn.
The first name that popped into his mind was Van Jefferson.
I think that stuff can be telling.
I think that's because it's, yeah, I think it's an easy name to remember.
Okay, well, it could be that too.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, Luke McCaffrey is not that difficult of a name.
Chucoby Jones isn't very hard to forget.
There are others out there.
So here were the names of the players that he thought jumped out during minicamp.
The first one is a player that I'm unfamiliar with.
Defensive N. T.J. Morin Younga.
He said he thought he improved significantly.
during mini camp.
Now, like,
this, by the way,
if I went back
and I pulled all of these
transcripts from coaches
over the years
for this time of year
and the players that they mentioned,
it's,
this is why I don't take this part
of the calendar very seriously
because you end up
with the Jimmy Morlins
and the Antonio Gandhi Goldens
and the,
you know,
Randy Moss's son, Thaddeus Moss.
Everybody's raving about him.
Everybody's shooting out play-by-play of them, and none of them even make the team.
But I think when the head coach says it, it's worth paying attention to.
So that was the first name.
Johnny Newton's name popped up.
He calls him Jay-Z.
They're calling him Jay-Z.
That's his nickname, J-Z.
Newton is his real name, even though at Illinois everybody referred to him as Johnny.
He said, I thought we had a really good camp with the line.
backers, Cain Madrano, Jordan McGee were both mentioned.
I think in a Durante Jones defense, if it does end up looking like a Brian Flores defense,
I've thought from the beginning that Kane Madrano would be an interesting player to watch
because he is, he's not Andrew Van Ginkle.
There really isn't another Andrew Van Ginkle in this league in terms of the way he plays
and the kind of plays he makes.
But Kane Madrano made similar plays when he was at UCLA.
That was really his calling card,
as he was a big-time turnover guy.
And then he mentioned wide receivers.
It was good to see, remember when we talked about this guy,
Jaden Bradley.
Yes, yes.
Jaden Bradley is the big six-foot-four-inch kid from UNLV
that Terry McCorn's been raving about.
and then once again, he mentioned Van Jefferson.
So those were the players that he mentioned in his opening statement.
Actually, there are a few more here.
He said also in terms of the overall offseason,
I thought Rashad White had an exceptional offseason.
I'm telling you, I've thought this since the moment they acquired him,
that Rashad White's going to end up being the back.
that is the primary back when the season begins more than Kroski Merritt.
It's just a hunch.
It's not based on anything.
I have heard that they really liked White and wanted him in free agency.
He's a veteran back.
I think he's always been a solid runner between the tackles.
He's not a home run threat, but he's a good pass receiver out of the backfield,
and he's a really good pass blocker.
And I think Rashad White's going to be a big part of what they're.
do this year. He said Rashad White jumped out. He said,
Caleb on Chase on the addition from New England, the pass rusher, was another one that
in camp, you know, doesn't have pads, but showed a lot of edge and toughness in the way he
competes. So he mentioned those two guys as well. So there you go. Some names from Dan
Quinn today on who's impressed him both in minicamp and then overall,
for the off season.
Well, this podcast will keep an eye on those guys.
I can tell you that.
Yes, it will.
We'll keep an eye on those guys for sure.
And we'll report back when we have further information
about how impressive they may be doing when they return to camp.
Let me mention one other thing, skins related.
Aaron Shats, the DVOA creator, we've had Aaron on the show many times,
wrote a column for ESPN.com this morning, titled 32 moves, 32 final moves for NFL teams.
So he has one more move for each NFL team.
And the move that he suggests that Washington make is signing wide receiver Tyree Kill.
He writes, the caveat here is, if health,
because Tyreek Hill time is coming off ACL, a real shredded up knee from last year in week
four playing with the dolphins. But he writes, the commanders could use a solid number two
receiver and a field stretcher who is a step up from Diami Brown. They are currently third in
cap space, so the economics work for them. Jaden Daniels is a dynamic young quarterback who
could get the ball out to Hill. You know, it's been a while since we've mentioned Tyreek Hill. We've been
very focused on Diggs and Ayuk.
Those have been the two areas of focus.
But Tyree Kill, now, you know, the health is everything.
He's 32 years old and he had a very serious injury.
But people, when he had the surgery, they said should be ready for the beginning of 2026.
By the way, I don't think he'll end up in Washington.
I think he'll end up in Kansas City, but that's beside the point.
what a combo that would be if you had the Tyreek Hill of a few years ago on the field with Jaden Daniels
and then with Terry McClewell and with Chigacanquo.
I don't know if you'd be getting that player.
That would be something.
No, we're not, you're not getting that paper player now.
He's not the Tyreek Hill that everybody was mesmerized by.
I mean, he's dead.
He's old and he's damaged.
He's 32, just three years ago when this season starts, 2023, 119 catches for 1,800 yards, and 13 touchdowns.
He was still arguably the best receiver in the NFL in 2023.
I will say this, that during that stretch of Kansas City and even the first few years in Miami,
he was the most feared offensive player in football.
and I'm not counting quarterbacks.
In terms of skilled position players,
there was not a player
that produced more fear
for defensive coordinators than Tyree killed it.
Now, if you think you're getting that player,
when last healthy in 2024,
81 receptions, not a, you know,
a rough year for Miami that year,
959 yards, six touchdowns,
and then last year, through four games
or three and a half games when he got injured.
He had 21 catches.
So, you know, he was on pace, you know, at five catches, you know, per game,
somewhere around five catches per game for another 85 catch season, right?
Five catches times 17.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I'd be interested.
Look, I'm interested in all of these people if they check out physically and mentally.
and they can be had for a very low-risk contract.
I think Stefan Diggs is going to get paid a little bit.
That's my guess.
By who?
So, good question, because let's see who.
He had him projected,
he had Stefan Diggs going to the Raiders,
and the Raiders making that move.
The Raiders do not have many receivers.
They've got, you know, big Brock Powers is a tight end.
but not many receivers.
And then he's got Dibo Samuel ending up in Kansas City.
I think Tyreek Hill's going to end up in Kansas City.
We'll see.
But he's got Diggs going to the Raiders.
Diggs, I think, is going to have some choices here in the next few weeks.
And I don't think any of these guys are going to be in a rush to sign
until all the minicamp and off-season activities are over.
And then they'll sign, you know, sometime over the next four weeks.
and be ready to go in training camp.
That's the way a lot of these veterans do.
I'm sorry?
You want Tyree Kill?
Yeah, I mean, if you toy, again, like with Brandon Ayuk, we can't do, we're not doing the medical,
we're not doing the psychological evaluation, but if you, if Adam Peters said, we, we, we worked him out.
We're getting the Tyree Kill of, you know, Tyree Kill, you know, fame.
We're not getting a guy with a shredded knee who's not confident on the knee, whose knee is damaged, and he's a different player.
If you tell me we're getting that player, well, of course I would want Tyree Kill.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
A few more things, including I will answer the question about Trey Young that I know so many of you have about him opting out of his contract with the Wizards.
We'll have that, and then Tommy's got a tidbit or two left in him to finish up the show.
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So let me just real quickly before you get to your tidbits to end the show.
Big story, you know, in the NBA late yesterday is that
Trey Young declined his near $49 million player option for the upcoming season,
and he will become a free agent on Monday when NBA free agency begins.
This was expected, people, because the Wizards are intending to give him a multi-year deal
as a free agent.
They expected this.
This was expected.
Almost everybody in the sport that covers the sport
expects Trey Young to sign
a free agent contract
with the Wizards next week.
Is it possible that he enters free agency
and somebody gives him a deal that's so much better
than the Wizards deal that he says,
yeah, I'm going to go elsewhere?
Of course, he's an actual unrestricted
free agent beginning on Monday
after declining his player option.
But the expectation is that he's going to sign a multi-year contract extension with the Wizards.
So, all right, what were your tidbits?
Well, on the roster for the D.C. Gray's this year is Darrell Strawberry's grandson.
Wow.
Is that DJ Strawberry's son?
Yes, DJ Strawberry's son.
Wow, that's crazy.
DJ Strawberry has a son old enough to play for the D.C.
Grays, it seems like yesterday DJ Strawberry was, for those of you who don't know,
was a very good player for Gary Williams at Maryland as a basketball player.
And Daryl Strawberry went to all those games.
He was always at Maryland games when his son was playing.
Wow.
I'm hoping Darrell will show up to a D.C. Grace game.
that would be pretty cool.
His name is Carter,
Carter, let me see,
Carter Sweeney, Strawberry.
Carter Sweeney Strawberry.
He was a freshman at Rutgers this year.
6'3-190, so he's got some size.
How old is he?
Because I just pulled up DJ Strawberry.
DJ Strawberry is 40,
he's 41 years old.
Well, this kid's a freshman.
Okay.
Yeah, okay, perfect.
God, man.
DJ Strawberry.
He's from Allie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, DJ Strawberry came to Maryland.
He, you know, he was living in California.
He went to that, you know, very sort of iconic, athletic high school in L.A.
Modern Day.
And came to Maryland, mid-2000s played through.
He was a good player.
You know, he came in.
He was raw, but, man, did he turn into a...
a really, really good player, super competitive.
And so, all right, so the strawberries are producing athletes.
Yeah, we've had a couple of celebrity connections before.
Duffy Baker's son, Darren,
Dary for the Grays one year, and Jeff Kent's son.
Wow.
Played for the Grays one year, too.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
What's your other kid, baby?
tidbit is, I won another writing award.
Okay.
Tell us about the latest award that you've won and where that award sits right now.
Well, the Society of Professional Journalist, the local Washington, D.C. chapter has a writing
contest every year called the Dateline Awards, Journalism Contest.
and one of the categories, they don't have a local sports column category.
They have a local columns category, which includes news columns.
Wow.
I won that.
You won for the news column with your sports column?
Yes.
Now, did you have to submit something for this?
Well, the paper does.
I mean, reporters don't.
Yeah.
Papers do.
So do you know what they submitted?
What story they submitted?
I gave them, they asked me for three.
Generally, they want three columns for an entry.
Okay.
And so I picked the three columns, send them to the bosses at the paper,
and then they submit them to the contest.
What were the three columns?
Were there any that we talked about on the show?
One was about the commanders,
before, you know, the Commander Stadium in D.C. before the deal was made.
Okay.
The other was about the NBA betting scandal.
Mm-hmm.
And the third was about Pete Rose, another betting.
Okay.
All right.
So.
And so you won this award?
Like, is there just one winner for the columns category?
Yes.
And you won?
There's a bunch of finalists and one winner.
Was there a finalist of note that you beat out?
Somebody that we would all know?
I don't think so.
Okay.
And I might want to point out this is the third time I've won this award.
So what did they send you?
A certificate, a plaque, a trophy?
I'll get a certificate.
And you'll frame it?
A nice certificate.
You'll frame it and put it somewhere?
Yes, with some of my others.
I don't have all my awards up because it just wouldn't be enough room.
No, I mean, the office that you had at 1801 Rockville Pike where the station was for many years,
I mean, it was bursting at the seams with awards.
I mean, they were all over the place.
It was a shrine built to yourself and you could barely walk in there on some days.
We started to talk about a much bigger office or just a separate office for Tommy's.
awards. That would have been a better idea.
Let me just say, without, I mean, it should go without saying, this does not compare
to the D.C. podcast, sports podcast association awards, we have won.
It certainly doesn't compare to a roadhouse, Texas, Texas Roadhouse menu, which I hope
you get access to on Father's Day. Thank you. You've already made this suggestion,
right? No, I have not. Oh. Well, how do you think that'll come about if she doesn't know that that's what you want to do?
Well, I'll wait and see if there's an invite from my oldest son for something else he has in mind.
Oh, okay. If not, this is what I want to do. Well, maybe, you know, okay. I was just going to say that...
Do you want to interfere with my family business, the Father's Day?
Well, I certainly will and would if I thought it made sense.
But it's Father's Day.
You are, you know, you're the father of this family.
And, you know, not to sound like, you know, that we're in the final stages, in the final stages of your life.
You know, I always love sharing a stage with you, you know, as in the final stage.
of your life. That's a Nikki Glazier line about Robert De Niro on one of those roasts. Do you like her,
by the way? No, not a fan. Oh, I'm a big fan. But, you know, how many Father's Days,
I mean, realistically, go ahead, say it. Say it. Do you have left? Go ahead. Do we all have left?
How many father's days do I have a lot? I mean, if you want Texas Roadhouse and you're hell bent,
on Texas Roadhouse, and this is something you'd really like to do on Sunday for Father's Day,
I think I might just get the word out if you're not going to put the word out.
You must walk around your house saying to yourself, I wish I hadn't said that all the time.
I think we both have that issue for sure.
There's a whole lot of, I can't believe I said that back then.
All right. Anything else?
Nothing else for you, boss.
All right. Good job today. I will talk to you on Tuesday.
Have a good weekend and happy Father's Day to you.
Happy Father's Day to you guys.
I'll be back tomorrow, everybody.
